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HomeMy WebLinkAboutARB201800091 Correspondence 2018-08-22N K Margaret Maliszewski From: Bart Svoboda Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:56 AM To: Margaret Maliszewski Subject: FW: Drillers Service Attachments: 6900540 Spec Sheet.pdf FYI - From Brion @ American Made Signs -----Original Message ----- From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:52 AM To: Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Drillers Service Bart, Attached is the floodlight. Since it has to be under 3,000 lumen, we will be using the 2,500 Lumen Dark Bronze, 5000K light as a ground mount. Thanks, Brion Draper American Made Signs LLC 407 Earhart Street, Suite B Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 971-7446 (434) 971-1346 www.AmericanMadeSigns.com V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company "A True American Company" Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express** Accepted. eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. > Brion, > The size is now compliant at 31.1 sgft. > I believe the last outstanding items is the electrical cut sheets > needed to complete ARB approval. > If you have questions please let me know. 1 > Bart J. Svoboda > Chief of Zoning > County of Albemarle, Virginia > 434-296-5832 ext.3225 > bsvoboda@albemarle.org > www.albemarle.org > -----Original Message----- • From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 201811:32 AM > To: Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org> > Subject: RE: Drillers Service > Bart, > Attached are the dimensions, we are under 32. sq. ft. Thanks > Brion Draper > American Made Signs LLC > 407 Earhart Street, Suite B > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > (434) 971-7446 > (434) 971-1346 > www.AmericanMadeSigns.com > "A True American Company" > V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, > and American Express** Accepted. > eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited > *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be > held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. > *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be > charged a $99 artwork fee to you. > *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. >> Brion, >> Any update from our conversation last week on the drillers service >> sign measurements? >> Bart >> Bart J. Svoboda >> Chief of Zoning >> County of Albemarle, Virginia 2 >> 434-296-5832 ext.3225 >> bsvoboda@albemarle.org >> www.albemarle.org M >> -----Original Message ----- >> From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2018 3:27 PM >> To: Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org> >> Subject: Drillers Service >> Bart, >> Can you explain the issue with the Drillers Service sign? It was my >> understanding with Margaret that the design would be fine. Also we >> tried a half of dozen different ways of doing this sign and >> everything was rejected except for this one. >> If this sign was half the size, it could not be read from the road. >> Having a small sign is having no sign at all and drivers would stare >> and strain their eyes to read it which would result in a crash or >> swerving. >> Also this permit have been going on for over two months now without a >> resolution. >> Thank you, >> Brion Draper >> American Made Signs LLC >> 407 Earhart Street, Suite B >> Charlottesville, VA 22903 >> (434) 971-7446 >> (434) 971-1346 >> www.AmericanMadeSigns.com >> "A True American Company" >> V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, >> and American Express** Accepted. >> eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited >> *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be >> held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. >> *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be >> charged a $99 artwork fee to you. >> *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. 3 Brion Draper American Made Signs LLC 407 Earhart Street, Suite B Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 971-7446 (434) 971-1346 www.AmericanMadeSigns.com "A True American Company" V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express** Accepted. eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. Margaret Maliszewski From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 2:53 PM To: 'Brion @ American Made Signs' Subject: RE: Drillers sign Brion, Don't forget that If you want to use a ground- or wall -mounted light fixture, we'll need to review the catalog cut sheet. Also, note that the lighting ordinance limits the output of uplights to less than 3000 lumens. We'll need manufacturers information confirming this. Thanks. Margaret -----Original Message ----- From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:53 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Drillers sign Not a problem, if this design gets approved I'll send you that. Probably will go with a 2,300 lumen as that should be enough. Thanks, Brion Draper American Made Signs LLC 407 Earhart Street, Suite B Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 971-7446 (434) 971-1346 www.AmericanMadeSigns.com "A True American Company" V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express** Accepted. eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. > Thanks, Brion. I'll take a look at this revision. If you want to use a > ground- or wall -mounted light fixture, we'll need to review the > catalog cut sheet. Also, note that the lighting ordinance limits the > output of uplights to less than 3000 lumens. We'll need manufacturers > information confirming this. > Margaret > -----Original Message ----- > From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:44 PM > To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> > Subject: RE: Drillers sign > Hi Margaret, > I did a total revision. This version would not be internally > illuminated and would have a spotlight shining up at the wall. They would just be 3/4" > opaque acrylic letters stud mounted in the wall. (Dimensional Letters) > This version should fully comply with the code. > Thank you, > Brion Draper > American Made Signs LLC > 407 Earhart Street, Suite B > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > (434) 971-7446 > (434) 971-1346 > www.AmericanMadeSigns.com > "A True American Company" > V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, > and American Express** Accepted. > eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited > *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be > held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. > *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be > charged a $99 artwork fee to you. > *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. >> Brion, >> We've considered your revision. The cloud style sign isn't close >> enough to individual letters, which the ARB indicated was required. >> As we discussed yesterday, please pursue individual letter signs with >> graphics that have an integrated appearance. >> Thanks for working with us on this. >> Margaret >> -----Original Message ----- >> From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:02 PM >> To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> >> Subject: RE: Drillers sign Margaret Maliszewski From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski Subject: RE: Drillers sign Attachments: drillers_rev4 jpg Attached is the revision specs. Thanks, Brion Draper American Made Signs LLC 407 Earhart Street, Suite B Charlottesville, VA 22903 (434) 971-7446 (434) 971-1346 www.AmericanMadeSigns.com "A True American Company" V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express** Accepted. eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. > OK, Brion. This style of sign is something we can work with. Please > submit the other standard information that is required with the sign > application (sizes, materials, color info, lighting info, etc.) so I > can re-route this to Zoning and complete my review. > Thanks for continuing to work on this one. > Margaret > -----Original Message ----- > From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:53 PM > To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> > Subject: RE: Drillers sign > Not a problem, if this design gets approved I'll send you that. > Probably will go with a 2,300 lumen as that should be enough. > Thanks, > Brion Draper > American Made Signs LLC > 407 Earhart Street, Suite B > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > (434) 971-7446 > (434) 971-1346 > www.AmericanMadeSigns.com > "A True American Company" > V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, > and American Express** Accepted. > eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited > *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be > held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. > *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be > charged a $99 artwork fee to you. > *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. >> Thanks, Brion. I'll take a look at this revision. If you want to use >>a >> ground- or wall -mounted light fixture, we'll need to review the >> catalog cut sheet. Also, note that the lighting ordinance limits the >> output of uplights to less than 3000 lumens. We'll need manufacturers >> information confirming this. >> Margaret >> -----Original Message ----- >> From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 5:44 PM >> To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> >> Subject: RE: Drillers sign >> Hi Margaret, >> I did a total revision. This version would not be internally >> illuminated and would have a spotlight shining up at the wall. They >> would just be 3/4" >> opaque acrylic letters stud mounted in the wall. (Dimensional >> Letters) This version should fully comply with the code. >> Thank you, >> Brion Draper >> American Made Signs LLC >> 407 Earhart Street, Suite B >> Charlottesville, VA 22903 >> (434) 971-7446 >> (434) 971-1346 >> www.AmericanMadeSigns.com 2 t >> "A I rue American Company >> V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, >> and American Express** Accepted. >> eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited >> *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be >> held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. >> *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be >> charged a $99 artwork fee to you. >> *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. >>> Brion, >>> We've considered your revision. The cloud style sign isn't close >>> enough to individual letters, which the ARB indicated was required. >>> As we discussed yesterday, please pursue individual letter signs >>> with graphics that have an integrated appearance. >>> Thanks for working with us on this. >>> Margaret >>> -----Original Message ----- >>> From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2018 2:02 PM >>> To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> >>> Subject: RE: Drillers sign >>> Margaret, >>> What about this cloud style sign? >>> Brion Draper >>> American Made Signs LLC >>> 407 Earhart Street, Suite B >>> Charlottesville, VA 22903 >>> (434) 971-7446 >>> (434) 971-1346 >>> www.AmericanMadeSigns.com >>> "A True American Company" >>> V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, >>> and American Express** Accepted. >>> eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited >>> *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be >>> held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. >>> *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will >>> be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. >>> *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »» Brion, can you please explain why individual letters cannot be »» accommodated? »» -----Original Message----- »» From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> »» Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 3:50 PM »» To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> »» Subject: RE: Drillers sign »» Margaret, »» I could spice it up and do cloud style shape. It would allow the »» letters to almost be just letters and then would have the logos as »» the same part but built into it. »» I'll mock it up for you. Thanks »» Brion Draper »» American Made Signs LLC »» 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »» Charlottesville, VA 22903 »» (434) 971-7446 »» (434) 971-1346 »» www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »» V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company "A True American Company" »» Visa, Mastercard, Discover, and American Express** Accepted. »» eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited »» *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be »» held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. »» *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will »» be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »» *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »»> Brion, »»> Illumination is a related issue, but the primary issue is the sign »»> type. »»> If you want to try to design an aluminum panel sign that is »»> designed to integrate better with the architecture of the building »»> (better than the illustrated cabinet sign), I can ask the ARB »»> about it on July 16, but I can't promise that they would OK it. If »»> you do attempt to redesign for a panel style sign, please be sure »»> that the Franklin Electric and Amtrol letters/logos are fully »»> integrated into the overall design. (They don't appear integrated »»> in the current »»> one.) Please let me know how you would like to proceed. »»> Thanks. »»> Margaret »»> -----Original Message----- »»> From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> »»> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 12:06 PM »»> To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> »»> Subject: RE: Drillers sign »»> Margaret, »»> He wants to know about doing a non -illuminated aluminum sign instead? »»> Thanks, »»> Brion Draper »»> American Made Signs LLC »»> 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »»> Charlottesville, VA 22903 »»> (434) 971-7446 »»> (434) 971-1346 »»> www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »»> "A True American Company" »»> V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, »»> Discover, and American Express** Accepted. »»> eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited »»> *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be »»> held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. »»> *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will »»> be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »»> *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »»» Brion, »»» »»» Special use permits and code changes don't cover this type of »»» situation. I can write a denial letter and you can appeal the »»» decision to the ARB. That would give you an opportunity to argue »»» your case before the ARB, even though we already know their »»» opinion on the matter. If this were to go to the ARB, my »»» recommendation would be that the cabinet sign does not appear »»» integrated with the architecture of the building. The building is »»» made up of a number of architectural elements that give it a »»» "busy" appearance, and the sign contributes to that »»» characteristic. Please let me know how you would like to proceed. »»» »»» Thanks. »»» Margaret »»» »»» -----Original Message----- »»» From: Brion @ American Made Signs <brion@americanmadesigns.com> »»» Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 .27 AM »»» To: Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> »»» Subject: Re: Drillers sign »»» »»» Margaret, »»» »»» I don't understand why a cabinet sign wouldn't be allowed. If the »»» guidelines are "Preferred" that isn't the same as "Only". Sign »»» cabinets should never be used on store front sign bands such as »»» shopping centers, but works well on this wall. What about a »»» special use permit or an alteration of the code for this building? »»» »»» Thanks, »»» »»» »»» -- »»» Brion Draper »»» American Made Signs LLC »»» 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »»» Charlottesville, VA 22903 »»» (434) 971-7446 »»» (434) 971-1346 »»» www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »»» "A True American Company" »»» V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, »»» Discover, and American Express** Accepted. »»» eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB »»» Accredited »»» »»» *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot »»» be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. »»» *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company »»» will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »»» *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »»» »»» »»»> Brion, »»»> »»»> Thank you for making your sign application complete. I have »»»> reviewed the completed submittal and I have consulted the ARB »»»> about the proposed sign type. The Entrance Corridor sign »»»> guidelines (9b) state that the preferred wall sign type is »»»> individual letters, and the ARB has confirmed that a cabinet »»»> style sign is not appropriate here. »»»> Consequently, I am not able to approve the application as »»»> currently proposed. I can write a denial letter, or, if you »»»> would like to submit an alternate design using individual »»»> letters, I would be happy to review that revised design under »»»> the existing application number and fee. Please let me know how »»»> you would like to proceed. »»»> »»»> Thanks. K »»»> Margaret »»»> »»»> »»»> »»»> »»»> Margaret Maliszewski, Chief of Planning/Resource Management »»»> Albemarle County Department of Community Development »»»> 401 McIntire Road »»»> Charlottesville, VA 22902 »»»> 434-296-5832 x3276 »»»> mmaliszewski@albemarle.org »»»> »»»> »»» »»» »»» -- »»» Brion Draper »»» American Made Signs LLC »»» 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »»» Charlottesville, VA 22903 »»» (434) 971-7446 »»» (434) 971-1346 »»» www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »»» "A True American Company" »»» V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, »»» Discover, and American Express** Accepted. »»» eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB »»» Accredited »»» »»» *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot »»» be held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. »»» *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company »»» will be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »»» *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »»» »»» »»> Brion Draper »»> American Made Signs LLC »»> 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »»> Charlottesville, VA 22903 »»> (434) 971-7446 »»> (434) 971-1346 »»> www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »»> "A True American Company" »»> V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, »»> Discover, and American Express** Accepted. »»> eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited »»> *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be 7 »»> held responsible for any mists es in the proof or completed signage. »»> *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will »»> be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »»> *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. »» Brion Draper »» American Made Signs LLC »» 407 Earhart Street, Suite B »» Charlottesville, VA 22903 »» (434) 971-7446 »» (434) 971-1346 »» www.AmericanMadeSigns.com »» "A True American Company" »» V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, »» and American Express** Accepted. »» eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited »» *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be »» held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. »» *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will »» be charged a $99 artwork fee to you. »» *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order. > Brion Draper > American Made Signs LLC > 407 Earhart Street, Suite B > Charlottesville, VA 22903 > (434) 971-7446 > (434) 971-1346 > www.AmericanMadeSigns.com > "A True American Company" > V3 Certified - Veteran Friendly Company Visa, Mastercard, Discover, > and American Express** Accepted. > eVA Registered - DMBE Registered - SwaM Certified - BBB Accredited > *Please review proofs and look for spelling mistakes. We cannot be > held responsible for any mistakes in the proof or completed signage. > *All artwork we created that is given to another sign company will be > charged a $99 artwork fee to you. > *There may be an artwork or site survey charge for your order.