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Home My WebLink AboutARB201700010 Correspondence 2017-03-17 Margaret Maliszewski From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:32 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski Subject: FW: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Margaret, I have gotten Francis' response in reference to ARB requested plantings/screening for SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market. He says we need it to be within the C-1 area and he said it should not be in the "buffer" area between the C-1 and RA areas. So they will have to put it other places. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Francis MacCall Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 11:46 AM To: Patricia Saternye<psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE:SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market I am replying so you have this from me after we spoke. Added a little more on the loading space question. Two new • I initially said I do not know. Please see if there are some other recent plans that we have identified this. I have thought about this a little more and thought this might be possible if it meets the design requirements for loading spaces.That said, I am not sure that it would meet the requirement in 4.12.13 (a) since most locations for fueling the tanks at a store like this are near the pumps which would mean that the loading space is not "adjacent to the structure it serves" if we counted the fueling location as the loading space. • The 1/200sf gross is correct for the parking calculation. Two other 1. Planting landscaping in the buffer on a C-1 parcel is disturbance thus needs a special exception to allow the planting of the buffer landscaping. can require for the commercial use on the commerciallyzonedportion of the parcel and 2. We need to stick to what we q not require RA improvements. Francis From: Patricia Saternye Sent:Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:43 PM To: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org> Subject: RE:SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Have you had a moment to look at the other two items I previously sent? Here are the new questions I mentioned and the other two items I previously sent. Two new Item: o Can their fuel loading space count toward their normal loading space requirement (4.12.13(c))? o Is it correct that you and Ellie had told them to use the 1/200 SF of gross footprint to use for their parking calculation? Two other items. 1. Since you and I discussed them having a "Buffer Zone", even to the RA area of their own lot, can Margaret ask to have screening plantings in that "Buffer Zone". In working on the Gropen project (SDP2016-19) which was an industrial district adjacent to an NMD (I think) Ellie had stated that they could not even plant landscaping within the buffer based on 26.5(c), though I think that might be a current interpretation versus exact wording. The wording is somewhat different in 21.7(c) and it includes a sentence that states "Screening shall be provided as required in section 32.7.9." Does this mean in a C-1 zone the "buffer zone" can be disturbed in order to provide screening (whether by plants or fencing) to the adjoining RA areas? 2. In the pre-app it was discussed that all of the improvements for the C-1 use had to be on the C-1 portion of the parcel. Margaret was considering having them place screening trees within the RA portion of the project, fronting on Route 64 and its off ramp. Should she only have them provide screening plantings within the C-1 portion,just like with the other improvements? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development ,41 44 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Francis MacCall Sent:Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:27 PM To: Patricia Saternye<psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market 2 Sole *4S OK. It does not look like they need an exception here. It does appear they can also accommodate the loading facility within the 100' setback but need to show it for the final. Still looking into the buffer question. Francis From: Patricia Saternye Sent:Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:10 PM To: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Thanks Francis. I did get with Chris, but his was done by exception, since the lot was so small. Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Ai, 40 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Francis MacCall Sent:Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:08 PM To: Patricia Saternye<psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market So per this section of 5.1.20 b. No storage tanks and loading facilities shall be located closer than one hundred (100)feet from any lot line. The 100' setback would not apply to the pumps under the canopy. The loading facility is the area where the tanker is parked and pumps gas into the storage tanks. This should be shown so as to be within that 100'shown on page 4. Francis From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:45 AM To: Francis MacCall<FMACCALL@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market 3 Francis, Also, in reference to 5.1.20(b), can they have the fuel pumps closer than 100' to the property line? I'm going to comment on them showing the underground location of the tanks and for them to show the loading area. However, I had interpreted the pumps themselves also had to be 100' away from the property line. What is the current interpretation on this? Thanks, Paty From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:58 PM To: Francis MacCall Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Two other items ;). 1. Since you and I discussed them having a "Buffer Zone", even to the RA area of their own lot, can Margaret ask to have screening plantings in that "Buffer Zone". In working on the Gropen project (SDP2016-19) which was an industrial district adjacent to an NMD (I think) Ellie had stated that they could not even plant landscaping within the buffer based on 26.5(c), though I think that might be a current interpretation versus exact wording. The wording is somewhat different in 21.7(c) and it includes a sentence that states "Screening shall be provided as required in section 32.7.9." Does this mean in a C-1 zone the "buffer zone" can be disturbed in order to provide screening (whether by plants or fencing)to the adjoining RA areas? 2. In the pre-app it was discussed that all of the improvements for the C-1 use had to be on the C-1 portion of the parcel. Margaret was considering having them place screening trees within the RA portion of the project, fronting on Route 64 and its off ramp. Should she only have them provide screening plantings within the C-1 portion,just like with the other improvements? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent:Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:31 PM To: Francis MacCall<FMACCALL@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Also, in reference to below, do we consider the outdoor seating in any parking Calc? 4 Soo same Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 4/ Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent:Tuesday, March 14, 2017 4:21 PM To: Francis MacCall<FMACCALL@albemarle.org> Subject:SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market Francis, In SDP2017-9 Boyd Tavern Market they are showing 500 SF of outdoor sitting area. The parking calc only shows "convenience store" but I was wondering if they might be having some "fast food" component to the market. I think we might need more info on what they are including in the store. "Fast Food" no longer has a definition in Section 3. Would you consider some level of food component to the market as fast food, like a Sheetz Made To Order (MTO)? If so, "Fast Food" needs an SP in C-1. Would an SP for "Fast Food" only apply in a C-1 zone if it is a stand along "Fast Food" restaurant and not a small component within a market/convenience store? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 5 fir/ + of V:0 COUNTY OF ALBEMARLE Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road,North Wing Charlottesville,Virginia 22902-4596 Phone(434)296-5832 Fax(434)972-4126 March 10, 2017 Shimp Engineering Attn: Justin Shimp 201 E. Main Street, Suite M Charlottesville, Va 22902 RE: ARB-2017-10: Boyd Tavern Market Dear Mr. Shimp, The above-noted application for an Initial Site Plan has been scheduled for the Albemarle County Architectural Review Board meeting to be held on Monday,March 20, 2017. This meeting will begin at 1:00 p.m. in Room 241 of the County Office Building at 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. Staffs recommendations on the application will be available approximately one week prior to the meeting date identified above. The item will be placed on the consent agenda and the ARB's action will become part of the Site Review Committee comments on the proposal. If you have any questions,please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, u%(-e) Margaret Maliszewski Principal Planner cc: Virginia Oil Company Incorporated C/O Frayser White, South Creek Inv 1100 Harris Street Charlottesville Va 22903 File PROJECT IIAGEMENT SHIMPCIVIL ENGINEERING LAND PLANNING ENGINEERINGa February 16, 2017 Margaret Maliszewski Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Rd Charlottesville, VA 22902 Regarding: Boyd Tavern Market Initial Site Plan Ms.Maliszewski, With this letter are the six copies of the Boyd Tavern Market Site Plan you requested, showing the 1-64 travel lanes. If anything else is needed do not hesitate to email me at kendra(a).shimp-enqineerinq.com. Best, Kendra Patrick