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Home My WebLink AboutARB201800027 Review Comments 2018-02-08 - Heather McMahon From: Heather McMahon Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:41 PM To: 'Tommy Mullin' Subject: ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai restaurant-- CoA Attachments: ARB2018-27 CoA with approved drawings.pdf Hello Tom, Please find your CoA attached. Heather McMahon, Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent:Wednesday, February 28, 2018 4:36 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE:ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai restaurant--question Hi Heather, Please see the attached revised document. I added the Vinyl (2) and the gold Pantone 873c to the material portion and the graphic color portion. Apologize again,thank you for all your help. Best, r org Aar Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommy@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform trnagecza) www.image360cville.com 1 limmummimi 0 0 From: Heather McMahon [inailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Wednesday, February 28, 2018 4:10 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommy@imaRe360cville.com> Subject: RE:ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai restaurant--question Hi Tommy, The CMYK you've written on the sign drawing is different from the one you just gave me: C:14, M:21,Y:62, K:O. I have just spent the last 20 minutes or so attempting to find a Pantone equivalent to that CMYK number,to no avail.The best I could find on an internet color converter is Pantone 459C. Is that the best color match to the vinyl you are asking for on the '2'? By the way,you did not list'vinyl'as a material in any part of your sign drawing. Besides aluminum and acrylic,there is also vinyl,correct?Are there any other materials not listed? Please revise your sign drawing(the page that shows the "Love2 Eat" logo)to include the exact colors and their Pantone equivalents (if you choose Pantone as the standard ID, please write "Pantone" on the drawing)and all of the materials requested.You can send that back to me by email. I will print it out here. Do you have a sample of the vinyl? It would really expedite this review if you could submit a material sample. Heather McMahon,Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin (mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent:Wednesday, February 28,2018 3:58 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE:ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai restaurant--question Hi Heather, The acrylic that is going to be the face of the overhead letters is going to be white. The gold color that is going to be laid over the"2" in"LOVE2EAT" is vinyl and we have the CMYK for that. I converted that CMYK color to the closest PMS match I could find because I did not think I could supply a CMYK color. Can I provide a CMYK for the gold "2"? CMYK is C:15,M:22,Y:63,K:0 Thank you! Best, 2 444.101 said Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommyCc@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform CharlQFfewi?Ic VA--� / www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Wednesday, February 28, 2018 3:23 PM To:Tommy Mullin <tommy@image360cville.com> Subject:ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai restaurant--question Hi Tommy, I am reviewing your application for the above-noted sign right now. I'm looking at Pantone 459C, and that is not gold; it's a light yellow on a spectrum we generally wouldn't approve.A closer Pantone approximation to gold is 873. Have you chosen an acrylic material yet? Is it truly a gold, and the Pantone 459C is an approximate match? Please let me know what brand of acrylic material you've chosen for this sign so that I can better gauge how gold it is. Thanks, Heather McMahon, Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent: Friday, February 23,2018 2:18 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: no good deed Hi Heather, 3 0 Thank you for your constant help on this, I really appreciate it. Looking forward toohhearing any news regarding the application. Have a great weekend! Best, Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommy@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform —atariattesvilleVA—`.oss+ www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon Finailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org) Sent:Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:42 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommy@image360cville.com> Subject: RE: no good deed Thank you,Tommy. I can begin to review your application now that all of the requested information has been provided. I've attached .pdfs of the example templates I sent you previously, as well as.pdfs of the two recently-issued CoAs for signs which you may find helpful. Thanks, Heather McMahon,Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent:Thursday, February 22,2018 3:12 PM 4 To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: no good deed Heather, I apologize once again, I feel pretty foolish for all of this. Attached is what hopefully is the correct document you need. Thank you again. Also,thank you for sending those links, but they will not open in my browser. I would love to have that example of the correct way to do it if you could send it again, but don't go out of your way. Best, roryAar Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommy@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance, signage that Works, displays that inform bi0'} rharlottrsyiTtr,VA—`m." www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:52 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommv@image360cville.com> Subject: RE: no good deed Hi Tommy, These are exactly what I need in terms of manufacturer's specifications on the LED lighting your propose to use in the Love2Eat Thais sign; however,you need to make choices and indicate those choices on the sheet you provide me. For instance, color: Colors (XX)* CW — 9000K (Cool white) TW - 7000K (True White) NW — 5000K (Natural White) WW-3500K (Warm White) 5 • Please indicate(just circle)which color intend to use. I will letyou know thatwe generallyprefer kelvin values you between 3,000 and 5,000. Next,depth and intensity: Depth Chart � Max. Stroke 1 Spacing Depth ) (Single Row) ` (Multi-Row) 3" (75mm) 16" (150mm) Call for layout 4" (100mm) 19" (225mm) 6" (175mm) 5" (125mm) 112" (300mm) 10" (250mm) 6" (150mm) 112" (300mm) 12" (300mm) Please indicate which depth and max stroke your chosen LEDs will have. Please send me an updated version of this and I can begin to review your sign for compliance. Thanks, Heather McMahon,Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [inailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent:Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:42 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: no good deed Hi Heather, I apologize about the lack of response, I will make sure I rely everything through you. I did mean Pantone 459c,thank you for catching me on that one. I have a piece of paper from our supplier with the specific specs . I am not truly sure what all of the specs mean, in terms of the lighting. I attached the whole specs sheet incase that is all you need. If I need to send you the specifics separated from the sheet, I can no problem. Thank you, Heather. 6 .e,.r-. 'r_vras.... ....s =+;.�: .., a «.... -a-r _n _ a.-✓ _ ^..... _ ilk. _ °- - ®II Best, T rgg Rd% Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommyCc@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform bnage560.) rharlotrravitic VA-%amj www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:20 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommy@image360cville.com> Cc: Emily White<ewhite@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: no good deed Hi Tom, It's not a problem, but, in future, please respond to the ARB staff when you receive a letter about ARB-related requested changes. I've printed out the packet you just sent me by email. I see that you used the blank template I provided; I hope that was helpful to you (and I hoped the template full of hypothetical examples I sent you would be helpful as well). Please note that when you include the standard color ID number(such as 459C),you must also note which color format you are using—Pantone or Benjamin Moore or Matthews Paint or Sherwin Williams, etc. I assume,on this application,you meant Pantone 459C,correct?A sample is not needed but it is customary to provide a paint chip,such as in this application (stapled to second page): http://cob-Ifiche03/WebLinkWA/2/doc/962054/Pagel.aspx?sea rchid=746f5349-8063-41d7-9c9f-14dcc9c9c185 I believe in the letter I sent you on February 16, 2018, I also asked you to provide manufacturer cut sheets describing the illumination type, intensity,and color. Stating "internal LED" is just stating the type of lighting and is not all of the information requested. We need to know the color(they have to be white, by the way), the intensity(such as how many watts or lumens they output, or kelvins,which is a measure of energy/color intensity). Please provide this information so that I can commence review of this application. I want to share this link with you of a CoA for a sign I just issued today, as it's one of the best examples of a sign application I've had submitted to me: http://cob-Ifiche03/WebLinkWA/2/doc/962730/Pagel.aspx?searchid=34b87c5f- 552 c-4cc2-99f3-53 b 1 b0641663 7 Heather McMahon,Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin Finailto:tommv@image360cville.com] Sent:Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:19 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily White<ewhite@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: no good deed Hi Heather, I apologize for making this process difficult, I should have reviewed all of it a lot more before I submitted everything to you. Thank you for sending all of those application templates through as well,those are extremely helpful. I just revised the drawing with what I hope has all of the requirements on it and attached it. Please let me know if it is missing anything and I will send it again. Also, do I need to provide a physical sample of the material and colors we are using? 90%of it is black and white. Thank you again, Heather! Best, Tamirg Tommy Mullin Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tornmy@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform -Chartotteswite VA—`f www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon Finailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Wednesday, February 21,2018 4:29 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommv image360cville.com> Cc: Emily White<ewhitec albemarle.org> Subject: FW: no good deed 8 Hi Tommy, * Emily has forwarded me this email from you, and she has also alerted me to the fact that you have resubmitted revised drawings to her; I have not received any revised drawings from you, however. Please let me clarify: we both need copies of the revised drawings. Emily reviews sign applications for their compliance with the Zoning Ordinance,while I review sign applications for compliance with the ARB Design Guidelines. We need to be looking at the same material, at the same time.That's why the application asks for multiple copies of drawings/materials. To answer your question below,the sign templates that I sent you do not supersede the application;they are merely a helpful tool for organizing content.You have already submitted an application, so you do not need to do that again. You do need to submit revised drawings to me, preferably as a .pdf via email, and then you also need to address whatever concerns Emily raised in regards to Zoning compliance on those same drawings. Please call me if you have further questions about the review process. Thanks, Heather McMahon, Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:08 AM To: Emily White<ewhite@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: love 2 thai Also, I realize that this template is not actually an application. Am I able to fill out this template and turn it in?Or do I need to fill out another application again? Thanks! From: Emily White [mailto:ewhite@albemarle.org] Sent: Friday, February 16,2018 3:01 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommy@image360cville.com> Cc: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: love 2 thai Hey Tommy, I just reviewed your sign permit. While it meets sign sizing(which is the bulk of what zoning looks at), I think you will be asked to provide more information. Are these channel letters,or is this a solid panel with a black background?The comprehensive criteria only allows channel. Also, I didn't see any information about lighting, so I can't sign off on that. Remember to add that statement: 9 11111111111111111111111111111111111 - 0 2. The level of illumination produced by the lights shall not stroke of 30 milllamp neon. I'm sure when Heather reviews the sign,she will follow up with a comprehensive letter to you with the ARB requirements. I just wanted to give you a little head start/warning that more information is needed. I'm headed out of the office, and we are closed on Monday. Feel free to be in touch, but I won't be able to get back with you until Tuesday. Best, Emily Emily Nelson White Permit Planner,Community Development Albemarle County,Virginia (434)296-5832 x3024 io Heather McMahon From: Heather McMahon Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 3:15 PM To: 'Tommy Mullin' Subject: ARB2018-27: Love2Eat Thai sign -- application incomplete Attachments: example freestanding sign.pub; example wall sign.pub;freestanding sign template.pub; wall sign template 8.5 x lls.pub;wall sign template.pub;ARB2018-27 sign app is not complete.pdf Hi Tommy, I apologize for the delay in getting back to you about your sign application; there was some confusion in in-take, and it took me a few days to get a hold of your application. I have attached 5 Microsoft Publisher files;three of which are templates for sign application submittal materials that you can use, and two of which are examples of what information we are looking for in sign applications. I highly encourage you to use these to ensure that the applications you submit are as thorough as possible;the review process can be greatly expedited when a complete application is submitted. I have also attached a letter which says your application is incomplete and review cannot commence until the necessary information is submitted to me. Please see the attached letter for more detail. Thanks, Heather McMahon, Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From:Tommy Mullin [mailto:tommy@image360cville.com] Sent:Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:36 PM To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject: RE:final email. seriously Hi Heather, Thank you for sending this over. I am heading out shortly to come over,and will have all the required documents. Thanks Heather! Best, r/ffifry Ag it Tommy Mullin 1 0 Account Manager Image360—Charlottesville Office 434-234-3800 Mobile 434-409-5761 tommv@image360cville.com Graphics that enhance,signage that Works, displays that inform lintge56a) —C harloticsvtth,VGA- % woe www.image360cville.com From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org] Sent:Thursday, February 8, 2018 2:02 PM To:Tommy Mullin<tommv@image360cville.com> Subject: RE:final email.seriously Also,Tommy, please take the time to read the materials available on the ARB website regarding sign criteria in the Entrance Corridor so that our conversation can be as productive as possible. Thanks, Heather McMahon,Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From: Heather McMahon Sent:Thursday, February 08, 2018 1:58 PM To: Emily White<ewhite@albemarle.org>;tommv@image360cville.com Subject: RE:final email. seriously Hi Tommy, If you choose to come in this afternoon, please print out and bring with you all of the materials—including the Comprehensive Sign Plan criteria for this property—which Emily has kindly sent you. Thanks, Heather McMahon, Senior Planner Albemarle County Department of Community Development 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 x3278 2 hmcmahon@albemarle.org From: Emily White Sent:Thursday, February 08, 2018 1:44 PM To:tornmy@image360cville.com Cc: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org> Subject:final email. seriously Hey Tommy, Heather McMahon is one of the ARB staff here. She is around this afternoon and said she may have time to speak with you about your sign permit application or review it for completeness. She also said all the letters(and numbers) must be white.Sorry, no gold 2. I have copied her on this email so we are all on the same page. I won't be in this afternoon as much as I would love to see you. Best, Emily Emily Nelson White Permit Planner,Community Development Albemarle County,Virginia (434) 296-5832 x3024 3