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Home My WebLink AboutVA197700073 Application 1977-11-30 $20. Permit Fee Niue Application No, Sign Erected By: Staff: A! APPLICATION FOR VARIANCE Zoning Department 414 E. Market Street Charlottesville, VA 22901 County of Albemarle 296 5832 Date of Application jl , 19 � / OWNER OF PROPERTY OCCUPANT (If other than owner) Name: /14/(\/i / /C��a�`f7 �l t 7 fl�l ame: 75),e/cL: to1C T cot Address: / 0•Az �LSo.6Address Telephone: Telephone: Location of Property: I7 / t2 -)-9901/ Tax Map Parcel 6® Acreage / ;. //f/L JP O= Ex .sting Zoning '' -� ,�rr�' District Existing Use: //kit j 1A f/rE PtgAl , 6140‘ f°4 Variance sought (describe briefly relief sought) : LV 5 �1 1 � I/? // 711c4 314E - 7� �� l Sp Q 3 2 0/ -�-/ /'P, /xrr' 9z P� (gd )O ,c,. �s �'�. • — 149/2; "e I hereby certify that the foregoing information is true and correct to. the best of my knowledge and belief and that I am the owner named ab ve.2 / 7 p 1' D to FOR OFFICE USE ONLY Zoning Administrator has/has not rendered a decision. If so, state substance of decision: Date of Hearing: Final Decision Made: The variance sought was denied/approved with the following conditions: Special Use Permit# BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS Sign Permit;& BY: Date Blilding Permit# :// * r %ow • Nmid • Sign Permit fs` 9 I•.. Albemarle County Appl i cant : Talley Neon & Advertising Company Perini t No . : -(c 3(10 Owner : Price Chevrolet Company Date : /7-/9 _ f Address : Route 250 east on Pantops Mountain Map No . : Charlottesville, Virginia Parcel No . : //. Zone : /) / /q uo: ;<{ti✓ . ALL SIGNS MUST BE LOCATED AT LEAST 30 FEET FROM ANY ROAD , is HIGHWAY OR THOROUGHFARE RIGHT-OF-WAY . ( Not Pavement) . MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 30 FEET OR THE HEIGHT OF EAVELINE OF ROOF , WHICHEVER IS . GREATER . Type of Sign : i. 1 . Location : . No limitation to size . 2 . Business : xx No limitation to size . 3 . Directional : . Four square feet . 4 . General Advertising : . Conditional Use Permit required . i . Home Occupation : . Four square feet . 1 i . Temporary Sign : Four Square feet . r . Sale or Rental Signs (Temporary) : = �- - • •' IIMENSIONS : ;ONSTRUCTION : Location Sketch Sign Sketch Per drawings attached a CL S r c - �' I,lt.(-, C ( �,,;. ��-E 1� Q'�cc G `-s-7)/41.5r 17 �c�•]/_ ,� �,- i�t �.�� X —C pproved : �>�u . Disapproved : lo4Iing Administ'ra Or Zoning Administrator l/ 4 R t l `r s DUI' `96-'181.1.e..• .•i '.+fit , Ik ;% ti ,t.44 .t ram'"• ALLIED• CONCRETE CQ ' A' Y 1. ' 1000 HARRIS ST. BOX 510 i � CHARLOTTESVILLE VA. LIGHT WEIGHT BLOCK READY-MIXED CEMENT BLOCK CONCRETE Customers / %J196 Order No. iii ll f -//� M - ;l Address Sold By Cos C.O.D 4ar9e On Acd Mdse Reed. r Paid Out Driv r / � r ., t i QUANTITY DESCRIPTION PRICE AMOUNTe, Cubic Yards Mix i INGREDIENTS Pounds of Cement-Type No. t Pounds Sand 1 Pounds Stone Pounds Stone Pounds Weblite Gallons Water Admix Sales Tax . Time of Leaving Plant: - .. Delay Time of Arriving Job: Time of Leaving Job: Plant Inspector Job Inspector Terms: NET CASH Q 9 I:j ': Rec'd By . 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L. v ‘! • 1 1 '74'6- NEON AND ADVERTISING CIOMPANY DATE ✓ 415.4 HIGHWAY ADVERTISING • NEON AND PLASTIC SIGNS WORK ORDER 1908 CHAMBERLAYNE AVENUE • RICHMOND, VIRGINIA 23222 • PHONE 649-0325 3300 CROMWELL ROAD • NORFOLK, VIRGINIA 23509 • PHONE 853-8051 I ADDRESS OF SIGN LOCATION S • Cummings I. Co. Price Chevrolet Co. P. C. Ben t3351 Rt. 250 oast on Penton& fbrntain ARE OF • Nashville, Tenn. 37202 Charlottesville, Va. USTOMER L• J T'S ORDER NO. SKETCH NO. DEL. DATE DESIRED COMPLETION TERMS I SALE5MAN 22561 DESCRIPTION OF ITEMS OR SERVICE PRICE I AMOUNT I TOTAL 1- x to 1 l and connect - 1 -24S-C-k7- -35-IF-2 t l • - LC-137.C-36-N-35-0E-I 11 - - SV-36-C-f-35-SF-I11- r tical slab 30 PSF foundation to be used on above pole mounts mews and leave with dealer 1- urad car ?- reef sihn . ►- OK circles (7) , extra work is to be done without pr f or approval and purchase -der f ram Cucsri ngs WE DELIVERY & ACCEPTANCE TICKET SIG1i£D IKE PICTURES OF ALL All SIGEE ARO SA.SES ME ELECTRICAL DIAGRAM ON BACK OF DELIVERY RECEIPT — }AVE LTOICR PikKE CERTIFICATION OF ELECTRICAL DIACRMI THE TALLEY NEON AND ADVERTISING COMPANY WISHES TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ORDER OF CKNOWLEDGM.ENT OF WHICH IS HEREBY MADE. LISTED ABOVE IS THE INFORMATION APPEARING ON OUR ORDER SHEET. IF ANY INFORMA- ION SHOWN IS INCORRECT, KINDLY NOTIFY US AT ONCE. DELIVERY DATE SHOWN IS BASED ON EXPECTED NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS, UT IS SUBJECT TO DELAYS CAUSED BY CONDITIONS BEYOND CONTROL OF COMPANY. , -V..• _EDGEmEi*:.T 1 , 1 1 444010 BOYLE & BAIN ATTORNEYS AT LAW 420 PARK STREET CHARLOTTESVILLE.VIRGINIA 22901 17 October 1977 TELEPHONE 977-6158 ROBERT P. BOYLE AREA CODE 804 '.. EDWARD H. BAIN,JR. JAMES G. COSBY ROBERT H. DOWNER,JR. Mr. J. Benjamin Dick Zoning Administrator County of Albemarle East Market Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22901 Re : Jim Price Chevrolet Company - Sign Dear Ben: Enclosed is the information that I have sought from Talley Neon and Advertising Company setting forth the work they performed upon on Pantops Mountain back in the latter part of 1969 and early 1970 pursuant to the sign permit signed by John Humphrey for the signs to be placed on Jim Price ' s business property. I enclose a picture show- ing the signs as taken by Talley Signs , a copy of the work order of Talley Signs , a copy of the sign permit signed by John Humphrey and a copy of the work order of Allied Concrete for delivery of materials to the job site dated 1/27/70 . It appears from the evidence submitted herein that the signs that are presently located at Jim Price Chev- rolet on Pantops Mountain are the same signs that were put in place by Talley Sign Company pursuant to the sign permit granted by Albemarle County in December , 1969 . Please let me hear from you at your earliest con- venience regarding your response to the information submit- ted herewith and any questions or additional information you may have of me. After you have had a chance to digest this information , I would appreciate the opportunity to have your comments . Sin e E ' rd H. 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IVY ar_r-rtnr� r - — -- 1., Oldsmobile Division err DEALERSHIP IDENTIFICATION SIGNS PRODUCT SIGN Ground Mount C k I • A > /\ /\ 0 B D SMOBILE iOMOWIOTOR .,..:L.7"...L.L. ;_:--- eil E C D raimimall 245 137 S92 S38• A 15' 01/2" 15' 0'h" 115'OYz" 11' 3Y4"111' 3'/" 111' 3'/4" 8' 81/4" 1 8' 8Y4" 6' 49/16" , 6' 49/18" B 15' 0'/2" 15' 0'/2" 115' 0Y2" 11' 3'/4" 11' 3Y4"111' 3'/4" 8' 8Y4" t 8' 814" 6' 49/16" 1 6' 49/16" C 47' 0" 42' 0" 137' 0" 36' 0" 31' 0" 126' 0" 28' 0" 23' 0" 20' 51/8" 115' 5'/e" D 25' 0" 20' 0" 1 15' 0" 20' 0" 115' 0" 1 10' 0" 16' 0" 11' 0" 11' 1 O'/16" I 6' 103/le" C • •Has no stainless steel on columns. `,.._._—.— L 5 The next item to come before the Board was Bill Edwards Oldsmobile, Inc. , VA-77-38. VA-77-38 Bill Edwards Oldsmobile, Inc. ; applicant requests 90 square foot variance from Section 15A-6-1 of Zoning Ordinance to allow two freestanding signs to be 195 aggregate square feet. Mr. Edwards was present to speak to his variance application. Mr. Heath read the staff report as well as a letter for Mr. Edwards dated May 26, 1977 requesting a rehearing to consider new evidence. Mr. Edwards was present to speak to this variance application. He presented to the Board two (2) letters from Mr. A.H. Wangbechler of GM-DI Leasing Corporation dated May 4 and May 17, 1977 which give the cost and time required to produce, ship and install another Oldsmobile Product sign. There was some discussion of two separate "product" signs; requesting to locate the GM at the north end of the property and the • • • Honda sign at the south end of the property. Mr. Smith questioned the variance needed for each sign. • Honda sign - 49' , GM sign - Edward's measurement 143' 1 !I GM measurement 137' Mr. Edwards stated that the Board had previously granted him under VA-77-22, a temporary variance of 88 feet and a permanent variance of 35 feet. Mr. Kennedy asked what the possibility would be of placing both signs on the same pole. Mr. Smith stated he would like to see the signs have separate variances. Mr. Payne, Assistant County Attorney, stated that he suggested rewording condition #2 in staff report to read "variance relates only to these signs". Mr. Payne stated that this would prohibit Mr. Edwards from adding to the sign in question and if replaced it would • require replacement of a smaller sign. Mr. Smith moved to approve the variance with the following condition: 1) That the sign not' exceed 30 feet height; 2) and if the Honda sign is ever removed that the variance be reduced. Mr. Payne advised Mr. Smith as to the language of the conditions and Mr. Smith's final motion was as follows: To approve the variance request of 86 ft. with the following conditions: 1) That the sign not exceed 30 feet height; 2) that the variance be limited to the existing GM and Honda signs and replacement of these signs shall comply with the terms of the Ordinance. Mr. Roberson seconded the motion which carried unanimously. Mr. Bain - Aye Mr. Roberson - Aye • Mr. Heath - Aye Mr. Smith - Aye Mr. Kennedy - Aye The last matter to come before the Board of Zoning Appeals was VA-77-39, W.J. Kirtley, Jr. Mr. Heath read the staff report. VA-77-39 W.J. Kirtley, Jr. ; applicant requests variance of 120 feet from Section 18-3-1, Scenic Highway Designation, to allow proposed buildings to be located 30 feet from right-of-way of Rt. 250. Mr. Kirtley, owner and Mr. Stuart Carwile, Attorney at Law, were both present to speak to this application. Mr. Kirtley stated that his property was rather unique because of the M-1 Zoning. He stated further that at present there was 18,000 ft. of warehouse building at the rear of this property which is serviced by the C & 0 Railroad. The property has been graded and needs very little in order to build on. Mr. Kirtley stated that rather than construct another warehouse or expansion of the existing warehouse on the site he is proposing to place building, as close to the road as possible, which �w, M o January 9. 1978 Albemarle County Board of Zoning Appeals c/o Benjamin Dick County Office Building Charlottesville, Virginia 22901 Gentlemen: I would like to request that you not grant Variance Appeal # VA-77-73 for an additional 129 square feet of free— standing business aignoga° applied for by Henry J. and Patricia M. Price. As a resident of Westmoreland Subdivision, I feel that if this variance were granted it would further deterimrate the area of Route 29N directly opposite the entrance to our sub— division, Carrobrook and Northfields. Bettor Living Furniture Company is now operating next to the Price property with an attractive facility and a very minimum of aignago" They seem to be getting along pretty well that way, and the nearby residents are not unduly afflicted. if , however, you grant the Prices their variance, Better Living and others will be in to see you the next day, and it udn ' t be easy for you to find a reason not to grant them the same privilege. Since it is obviously not necessary for businesses there to have greater than allowable signageg why not do the residents, passersby and yourselves a favor and turn down the Prices ' request. SinceraIy° Karen Lilleleht 108 Carrsbrook Court Charlotteoville^ Virginia 22900 N STAFF REPORT VA-77-73 Henry J. & Patricia M. Price Tax Map: 45 Parcel: 68 Zoning: B-1 Acreage: 13. 118 EXISTING ACTIVITY Vacant lot with site plan approval for Chevrolet Dealership VARIANCE REQUESTED Applicant requests a variance from section 15A-6-1 to allow an additional 129 square feet for two free standing business signs or an aggregate area of 229 square feet. Applicant claims hardship of having the present signs by a lawful county permit but not being able to transfer them to another site within the county. The non-transferability the applicant feels imposes a hardship of inadequate identification and a financial hardship for new signs. ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT Section 15A-6-1 requires that no more than 2 freestanding signs may be erected on any legal parcel in a B-1 zone and the aggregate area may not exceed 100 square feet. STAFF COMMENT Staff notes that applicant may have sufficient time to have General Motors build a sign in conformance with the present zoning ordinance. (see attachments) Moreover, the county contemplates having a new sign ordinance by the end of the summer that may possibly allow the present signs. For these reasons, staff recommends denial of the variance. If the Board, however, chooses to grant the variance, staff recommends: 1. A temporary variance of one year at which time compliance with the sign ordinance must be made by the applicant. 2. One sign rather than two. . r .off OF AL Pat <41 GT INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT J. Benjamin Dick ZONING DIVISION Andrew Evans, Senior Inspector Zoning Administrator 414 EAST MARKET STREET Donald Woodson, Inspector CHARLOTTESVILLE, VIRGIiNIA 22901. Robert .Mowry, Inspector November 16, 1977 Ed Bain, Esquire 420 Park Street Charlottesville, VA .22901 Re: Jim Price Chevrolet Sign Dear Ed: The Deputy County Attorney, Fred Payne, and the Zoning Administrator have conferred together on the legal status of the existing Jim Price Chevrolet sign. This letter will serve as an advisory one in assisting you and your client's quest in finding the appropriate zoning procedures with which to proceed to gain necessary permits and approvals for proposed signs. The existing sign is lawful under a properly issued permit from the county. As you know, however, the ordinance has been amended to be more restrictive and the present ordinance provisions would technically class the existing sign as a "non-conforming structure" . Non-conforming structures may continue on the owner's parcel of the district on which it was placed unless a two year lapse of disuse occurs in which event the structure must meet the zoning ordinance requirements or be removed. It is clear, in our opinion, that a sign permit only runs with the land upon which it applied. The Zoning Administrator concurs with the Deputy County Attorney's legal research which found ample authority to assure the county and the Zoning Administrator that the lawful permit issued in 1969 does not entitle the holder to move the existing sign to a different legal parcel. To allow this otherwise would fly in the face of the legislative intent and letter of the present local zoning laws on signs. Therefore, in view of the large size of the existing signs, the best course Jim Price could pursue, in my opinion, is to proceed while he has ample time to request that General Motors make him signs that comply with the present zoning ordinance provisions. (Freestanding, roof, or wall signs.) A wall and freestanding sign would give him lawfully up to 300 square feet of advertisement. • r.., • Ed Bain, Esquire Page 2 November 16, 1977 He might also consider the fact that the Sign Commission is working very hard on a new sign ordinance that may accommodate his desires moreso than the present ordinance. The adoption date of this ordinance, however, is presently unknown due to the complexity of the endeavor. The only other alternative is to seek a variance through the proper zoning application process. I hope this letter is of assistance to you. If you have any questions, please contact the Zoning Administrator. Respectfully, J. Benjamin Dick Zoning Administrator JBD/gr cc: Fred Payne, Deputy County Attorney Robert W. Tucker, Jr. , Director of Planning Correspondence ,A6c: County Attorney's File %O ( OF Auk-Ai, u term Pi no. Office of County Attorney FREDERICK W. PAYNE 416 PARK STREET GEORGE R, STJOHN JAMES M. BOWLING, IV CHARLOTTESVILLE. VIRGINIA 22901 COUNTY ATTORNEY DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEYS TELEPHONE 296-7138 November 14 , 1977 Mr. J. Benjamin Dick 1 Zoning Administrator 414 East Market Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22901 Re: Jim Price Chevrolet Sign (Our File #ACPZ 77-407B) Dear Ben: I am in receipt of your letter of November 3, in which you inquire as to the legality of a change in location of an existing sign on the property of Jim Price Chevrolet on Pantops Mountain. I understand the facts to be as follows . In 1969, a permit was lawfully issued for this sign pursuant to the zoning ordinance as it existed at that time. Shortly thereafter, in January of 1970 , the sign was erected on the Pantops site and has since then been maintained in substantially the same form. Subsequently, the ordinance was amended in such a way that a sign such as this could no longer be erected in the County. The applicant now desires to relocate his business to a location on Route 29 North and wishes to relocate the sign to his new location. The question presented in your letter is whether this sign may be relocated consistent with the ordinance. I understand that your opinion is that it cannot. In my opinion, your view of the situation is substantially correct. I believe that this sign is now non-conforming under the terms of the ordinance. See Zoning Ordinance, Sections 10-1-1 and 10-4 . In other words , the fact that the sign was originally built pursuant to a lawful permit has established a vested right in the owner to maintain it in its present condition, but the relevant amendments to the ordinance have made it non-conforming. It would appear that the consistent position of the Courts which have dealt with this issue has been that such structures cannot be moved to a different location, even one with similar zoning, without conforming to the now existing provisions of the ordinance. See 1 Anderson, American Law of Zoning, Section 6 . 34 , page 383; Triangle Outdoor Advertising Company v. Chaddick, 6 Ill. App. 3d, 1058 , 286 N.E. 2d 610 (1972) ; See also, Zoning Ordinance, Section 10-5-1. Therefore, it is my opinion that the sign in question cannot lawfully be moved Niro Mr. J. Benjamin Dick Page 2 November 14 , 1977 to a new location in the County unless it can be made to conform to the provisions of the ordinance applicable at the new location. If you have any further questions , please let me know. Sincerely yours , --4‘461461‘.0440c4.____ Frederick W. Payne Deputy County Attorney FWP/tlh Noe ,....., IL, icoli n • GM-DI Leasing Corporation 3044 W. Grand Boulevard Detroit, Michigan 48202 May 17, 1977 i Mr. W. S. Edwards , Sr, Bill Edwards Oldsmobile, Inc. 315 W. Main Street Charlottesville, VA 22901 l Dear Mr. Edwards: In reference to our letter to you dated May 4, 1977 and cur discussion on May 13 , 1977 of its content we overlooked the mention of one pertinent s • fact - that is the time required to produce, ship, and install a smaller Oldsmobile Product sign. 1 r Our present volume of orders as well as our production capacity, indicates , that approximately five months time will be required to complete the project. We advise you of this appologetically. More than fifty percent of our present orders are "No. 1 Priority" . Obviously, all cannot be produced first. We attempt to complete each in the order in which they are received. However, we assure you that every effort would be made to improve on the schedule in the event that the smaller sign is ordered. Very truly yours , GM-DI LEASING CORPORATION W? OeitAd(44- 61LA-- A. H. Wangbichler AHW:bab cc: Mr. H. E. Hatt Mr, M. J. Cherry Mr. E. E. Klein Reference No. : T000091 a ri. GM-DI leasing Corporation 3044 W. Grand Boulevard Detroit, Michigan 48202 May 4 , 1977 Mr. W. S. Edwards , Sr. Bill Edwards Oldsmobile, Inc. 315 W. Main Street Charlottesville, VA 22901 Dear Mr. Edwards , This letter will confirm our phone discussion of April 29 , 1977 concerning the proposed changes in sign code restrictions and the resulting effect on your present identification. The Oldsmobile Product Sign presently installed at your facilities is a P137 model. Its dimensions are approximately 11' x 11' x 31 feet in height. At the time of its installation in early 1971 the monthly lease rate in effect for that sign was $60. 00. (The current rate for a new sign of this size would be $119. 5 0 per month) We regret to advise you that if it should become necessary to remove and return ship the present sign due to revised sign code enforcement the expense to Edwards Oldsmobile_would appr-o i-maie-$_6_.,Q00. 00� In addition to the above expense a new smaller product sign, such as a 9' x 9' model 28' in height, will bear a monthly lease rate of $77. 50. Unfortunately, $17. 50 more than your present rate on a larger sign. We trust that this information will�be of assistance. Please feel free to contact us if further questions arise. • tr . yours , ilk A. H. Wangbic er GM-DI LEASING CORPORATION AHW:bgb Mr. H. E. Hatt Mr. M. J. Cherry Mr. E. E. Klein �` Reference T000091 . .