HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-04-14April 14, 1994 (Regular Night Meeting)
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A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County,
Virginia, was held on April 14, 1994, at 7:00 P.M., Room 7, County Office
Building, McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
PRESENT: Mr. David P. Bowerman, Mrs. Charlotte Y. Humphris, Mr.
Forrest R. Marshall, Jr., Mr. Charles S. Martin (arrived at 7:10 p.m.) and
Mrs. Sally H. Thomas.
ABSENT: Mr. Walter F. Perkins.
OFFICERS PRESENT: County Executive, Robert W. Tucker, Jr., Deputy
County Attorney, James M. Bowling, IV, and County Planner, V. Wayne Cilimberg.
Agenda Item No. 1. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m., by the
Vice Chairperson, Mrs. Charlotte Y. Humphris. Mrs. Humphris announced that
Mr. Perkins, the Chairman, was in an automobile accident this afternoon. She
said he was going to be fine, but he was unable to attend this meeting.
Agenda Item No. 2. Pledge of Allegiance.
Agenda Item No. 3. Moment of Silence.
Agenda Item No. 4. Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the
Public. There were none.
Agenda Item No. 5. Consent Agenda. Motion was offered by Mrs. Thomas,
seconded by Mr. Marshall, to accept the items on the consent agenda for
information. Roll was called and the motion carried by the following recorded
vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins.
Item 5.1. Copy of Planning Commission minutes for March 15 and
March 29, 1994, received for information.
Item 5.2. Letter dated April 5, 1994, from Mr. F. E. James, Jr., Acting
Maintenance Operations Manager, Department of Transportation, to Ms. Ella W.
Carey, Clerk, re: notice that VDoT intends to repair the existing structure
over Green Creek (Route 630) during the period of April 11, 1994 through April
15, 1994, received for information.
Item 5.3. Copy of letter dated April 4, 1994, from Mr. D. S. Roosevelt,
Resident Highway Engineer, to Mr. Robert W. Tucker, Jr., County Executive, re:
Residency Reorganization, received for information.
Item 5.4. Copy of'letter dated April 8, 1994, from The Honorable Walter
F. Perkins, Chairman, to Sheriff Terry W. Hawkins, re: additional funding,
received as follows:
"In response to your letter of March 28, the Board has carefully
reviewed your comments and has decided not to take any further
action on your requests at this time. Although you have identi-
fied major problems in the current funding methods and areas of
responsibility between the state and the county and have presented
the increasing workload demands of your office, the Board does not
agree with your contention that the County has been negligent in
their responsibilities and that your office has been treated
unfairly.
If you will review the attached (on file) information, which
presents the funding history for your office over the past seven
years, you will see that the County has been increasingly support-
ive of your operations. The County's share of funding for your
office has grown from nine percent in 1987-88 to almost 39 percent
in 1994-95, a 30 percent increase in the local funding share and
an actual increase of 585 percent in local funding over the past
seven years. The County, which did not fund any positions in
1987-88 now funds with the City's support 3.63 FTE locally funded
positions. This reflects a 36 percent increase in staff since
1987-88, all locally funded.
Although more may need to be done, the County has put forth what
it considers to be a good faith effort over the past seven years
in responding to your requests for additional staff and increased
local funding for operations. In this difficult budget year, many
needs went unfunded throughout County departments and community
agencies; your office was not singled out for less than equal
treatment.
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The County will support you in your future funding requests to the
Compensation Board for additional deputies or bailiffs and will
work with you to more clearly define the responsibilities of your
office to state and local requirements and expectations."
Agenda Item No. 6. SP-93-41. Pagebrook Farm. Public Hearing on a
request to locate six impounding structures in flood plain on 315.86 ac zoned
RA. Property on E sd of Rt 231 approx 0.25 mi N of Rt 231/640 inters at
Cash's Corner. TM50,P34. Rivanna Dist. (Advertised in the Daily Progress on
March 28 and April 4, 1994.)
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Planning Commission, at its
meeting on February 8, 1994, unanimously recommended denial of SP-93-41. The
Commission's denial of the request was based on the possible detrimental
effect on properties downstream in periods of low flow, and because no
specific definition of agricultural use was provided during the application
review process.
Mr. Cilimberg said the applicant has responded to the concerns of the
Commission by providing additional information last Friday which included an
"Agricultural and Stream Enhancement Plan Summary Report". The Engineering
Department responded today to the latest plan, and he handed this information
to the Board members. He told the supervisors that if they choose to approve
this application, he would suggest the original staff conditions #1 and #6 be
replaced with conditions #1 and #4 set out in today's memo from the Engineer-
ing Department. He said these conditions are more specific to the proposal as
it was shown in the latest submittal. Other than this change, the other
recommendations would stand as they were originally shown.
Mrs. Humphris asked if the Commission has reviewed the report. Mr.
Cilimberg replied, "no".
Mrs. Humphris remarked that the supervisors need to discuss whether or
not they should consider the matter at this time. She noted that the Board's
policy has been that it considers the same information as the Commission. She
also commented that the supervisors like to have a recommendation from the
Commission which reflects all of the information available.
Mr. Bowerman stated that, based on the Commission's minutes, there was
clearly a lot of confusion and a lot of information was lacking. He thinks if
the Commission had received this additional report, the commissioners may have
made a different recommendation to the supervisors.
Motion was then offered by Mr. Bowerman, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, to
send this petition back to the Planning Commission for them to review again
since they did not have all of the information now available to the Board,
i.e., "Agriculture and Stream Enhancement Plan Summary Report for Pagebrook
Farm" from McKee/Carson.
(Mr. Martin arrived at 7:10 p.m.) Mrs. Humphris then described the
situation and the motion to Mr. Martin. Mr. Martin said he has already
discussed this matter with Mr. Bowerman, and he concurs with the motion.
Mrs. Humphris asked if the applicant was present at the meeting.
Mr. Steve Blaine, the applicant's counsel, stated that he understands a
motion has been made, but he wondered if the applicant would have an opportu-
nity to respond to the question of whether the matter should move forward
tonight. He next introduced Mr. Steve Driver, who is the consultant for
the Pagebrook Farm project. Mr. Driver can provide some technical informa-
tion.
Mrs. Humphris commented that the Board is not interested, at this time,
in the technical part of the application. She noted that it is this Board's
policy to act on matters coming forward from the Commission, based on the
Commission's recommendation. In this case, the supervisors noted on Page Five
of the Commission minutes that the applicant was presently unsure of the exact
use of the water. The Commission's action did not relate to everything this
Board has been asked to consider. It is this Board's policy, in such circum-
stances, to send the matter back to the Commission for another recommendation.
Mr. Blaine asked if there will be any instructions to the Commission as
to what they should consider. Mrs. Humphris answered the commissioners are
supposed to review all of the information available, and discuss the issue
again. Mr. Bowerman pointed out that the Commission's recommendation could
not have been more negative.
Mr. Blaine indicated that this was satisfactory with the applicant.
Roll was then called, and the motion carried by the following recorded
vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins.
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Agenda Item No. 7. ZMA-93-20. Albert DeRose. Public Hearing on a
request to amend Buck Mountain Planned Residential Development to allow
subdivision of a 5.4 ac parcel zoned PRD. Property on E sd of Rt 601 approx
0.33 mi N of 601/667 inters. TM17,P62. White Hall Dist. (Advertised in the
Daily Progress on March 28 and April 4, 1994.)
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Plannin9 Commission, at its
meetin~ on February 8, 1994, unanimously recommended denial of ZMA-93-20. The
Commission felt that if there is a change, the PRD should be considered as a
whole, and not just as individual lots. He noted that the unusual aspect to
this application is that, because it is a PRD area, there is no subdivision
potential, whereas, under rural area zoning, which could replace the current
zoning, there would be subdivision potential.
There were no questions for Mr. Cilimberg from the Board, so Mrs.
Humphris opened the public hearing.
Mr. John Dezio stated that he represents Mr. and Mrs. DeRose, and said he
has a two-part presentation. Me went on to say the bulk of the presentation
will be made by the DeRose's daughter-in-law. He then explained that the
purpose of Mr. and Mrs. DeRose's buying of this property was to serve as a
retirement residence, and when it was purchased, they were told by the
developer that this property could be divided, because of its size, and that
one part could be used to build a retirement cottage, at some point when they
would not need the big house. He noted that Mr. DeRose is at the meeting
tonight, but he will not be able to speak because of medical problems. He
said that if there is any question about what he (Mr. Dezio) or Mr. DeRose's
daughter-in-law have to say, Mr. DeRose will indicate an affirmative or
negative answer, because he is the expert on the situation. He noted that Mr.
DeRose's sole purpose in making this request is so that he can divide
the property in the future, build his retirement home, and sell off the front
of the property with the larger home. He reiterated that the daughter-in-law
would speak about the more technical part of the issue, and then Mr. Dezio
indicated that he would make a presentation.
Mr. Martin commented that he would rather defer this matter until Mr.
Perkins can be present. Mr. Bowerman asked if Mr. Tucker had spoken with Mr.
Perkins about this matter. Mr. Tucker responded that he did not talk to
Mr. Perkins about the DeRose's request. He only talked to Mr. Perkins about
the budget, and Mr. Perkins suggested that the Board take action on the
budget.
Mr. Bowerman stated that if there is a 3:2 vote on the DeRose request,
then he thinks it would be appropriate to defer it. He added, though, that if
there is a 4:1 or 5:0 vote, in either direction, then he thinks the public
would best be served if the Board proceeds with the matter.
Mr. Marshall asked how the matter can be deferred if there has already
been a vote taken. He went on to say, however, that he agrees with Mr.
Martin. He said that if this property were in the Scottsville District, and
he were not at the meeting, he would appreciate it if the other supervisors
would wait until he could take part in the discussion.
Mrs. Humphris commented that Mr. Bowerman's point is that it might serve
the applicant better, if there is a vote that is going in one direction,
anyway, to go ahead with the matter tonight. Mr. Bowerman stated that if the
vote is close, he would certainly want to defer the matter. Mrs. Humphris
concurred. She would not want the vote to go one way or the other, if Mr.
Perkins' vote would be the deciding one.
Mr. Martin wondered if the applicants have a preference concerning
deferring this item.
Mr. Dezio remarked that Mr. DeRose has indicated that it would make sense
to defer the matter, and the whole presentation can be made at another time.
Mr. Tucker suggested the petition be deferred until April 20.
Mrs. Humphris asked if Mr. Tucker feels sure that Mr. Perkins will be
able to attend the April 20 meeting. Mr. Tucker answered that, at this time,
he is unsure if Mr. Perkins would have recuperated and be able to attend the
meeting. He said the staff can communicate with the applicant, once it is
known when Mr. Perkins will be back.
Mr. Dezio was agreeable to this suggestion.
At this time motion was offered by Mr. Bowerman, seconded by Mr. Martin,
to defer this application because Mr. Perkins was not present and the property
lies in his district. The applicant was agreeable to deferring until April
20, 1994, or to a date when Mr. Perkins returns. Roll was called, and the
motion carried by the followin9 recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins
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Agenda Item No. 8. SP-93-34. Putt-Putt Golf & Games (applicant); Lloyd
& Patricia Wood (owners). Public Hearing on a request to expand existing
miniature golf course with add't activities (gameroom/clubhouse, bumper boats,
batting cages, go-kart track). Property on N sd of Rio Rd approx 0.3 mi E of
Rt 29. TM61,P124El&P124E2. Charlottesville Dist. (Advertised in the Daily
Progress on March 28 and April 4, 1994.)
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Planning Commission, at its
meeting on February 24, 1994, unanimously recommended denial of SP-93-34.
He stated that the Commission was concerned about noise and the lack of
any relevant testing as to noise at the time the Planning Commission heard the
request. Since the Commission's meeting, there has been sound testing done,
and the supervisors have received a copy of this report. The staff has not
had an opportunity to review the report, and there are no comments from
Engineering. Secondly, the Commission was concerned about the impact of this
proposed recreational use, particularly the go-kart track, to the high density
residential area, which is an area proposed for apartments. The sound study
that the applicant has provided is in response to the Commission's concerns,
and tests were conducted on March 22, 1994. He reiterated that the Commission
did not have this information at its meeting.
Mr. Marshall mentioned that he was in that area a few days ago, and it
seemed to him that the property where the proposed apartments are going to be
built is behind Albemarle Square. Mr. Cilimberg pointed out the Albemarle
Square property, and said the proposed apartments would be built on land to
the rear of Albemarle Square.
Mr. Bowerman asked if there is a parcel of land between the property in
question and the land where the apartments are proposed to be built. Mr.
Cilimberg answered that he believes there is a parcel of land between the two
properties.
Mr. Bowerman indicated another piece of property and asked Mr. Cilimberg
for the zoning designation. Mr. Cilimberg pointed out the property on the
map, to which Mr. Bowerman referred, and responded that the property is zoned
R-10.
There were no further questions for Mr. Cilimberg from the Board, so Mrs.
Humphris asked if the applicant would like to speak.
Mr. Richard Carter, representing Mr. and Mrs. Lloyd Wood, stated that he
was going to keep his comments brief, because Mr. Wood had a few words to say.
He said that there was also an expert on sound at the meeting, who is avail-
able to give his opinion or to answer any technical questions. Mr. Carter
stated that he knows there are a lot of people present who want to speak about
this matter, but he would like a chance for rebuttal, if the speakers do not
talk too long. He noted that the Putt-Putt Golf Course has been in the same
location since 1966, and it has always been a family-owned and operated
business. The new proposed business will also be a family-owned and operated
business. He asked why is this important, and he indicated that it was
important for a number of reasons. When families operate a business, families
care about things, such as safety. One of the negative things that has been
associated with this application is the safety aspect. If the supervisors
will look at the design behind them, they will see that it is designed for
safety. People do not have to cross any roads, and once a person is in the
parking lot, there is no other road to cross to get to the Fun Center. He
said the safety aspect is the reason that a variance was obtained from the
Board of Zoning Appeals for the property to the east.
Mr. Carter noted that families care about security, and he said the
design for this establishment is secure. He emphasized that there is only one
entrance, and that the rest of it is completely enclosed for security reasons.
There will not be children wandering from the parking lot back and forth into
this area. The facility is also designed for security in that it has one door
and one cashier, and people will have to go out the same way they come in. He
stated that families care about their reputation. When a family runs its own
business, its reputation is on the line, and the success and failure of that
business is up to the family. The owner of a family business is not an hourly
employee, or someone from out of town coming in for a commercial venture and
the owner is not an absentee landlord. Family members work for the family
business, and if the business is successful, it is good for their reputation,
and if it is not, it is embarrassing to the family. He reiterated that the
Wood family has run an amusement center since 1966 in this area, and they
care, and they will make it work. Families are more likely to take pride in a
safe operation and care that it does not have a bad reputation.
He read in the newspaper that one of the concerns was that this would be
a place where kids would congregate and there would be vandalism and crime.
He hopes it is a place for kids to congregate, and he thinks that the youth in
this area need a place to go to ride bumper boats, play Putt-Putt, hit the
baseball and ride the go-karts. Whether these children are two years old or
82 years old, they need such activities and, particularly, the kids under 22
years old need a place to go. He asked why this amusement center will be
different from other places. He emphasized that it will be different because
it is run by a family who lives one-half mile from it, and has always lived
there. He noted that there will be no alcohol served there, so that would not
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be a problem. He said parking lots are going to be patrolled, just as parking
lots are patrolled now. There never has been a problem at the Putt-Putt Golf
and Games facility with misbehavior in the parking lot or vandalism. The Wood
family wants to be good neighbors and good friends, and he thinks they have
demonstrated this over the years.
Mr. Carter noted the letters from the different church groups, which
indicate what the Woods have done for them, with the operation of the Putt-
Putt facility. He said there will be speakers at this meeting who will speak
to the fact that the Woods are good neighbors and good friends. He reiterated
that the Woods live in the neighborhood, and they want this to work. He
brought out the fact that the Woods own the Bonanza Restaurant next door to
the facility, and they do not want anything happening at the amusement center
which will drive customers away from their restaurant. He said the Putt-Putt
facility has been a training ground, and many of the leading citizens have
gone to the Putt-Putt business training school as teenagers. These people
worked the counter, cleaned up the golf course, vacuumed, took in the money
and learned how to run a business. This is the type of business that the
amusement center will be.
Mr. Carter commented that the applicant agrees with the staff report,
and asks that the supervisors look closely at it. He pointed out that in the
immediate area there is NationsBank, Bonanza Restaurant and Fashion Square
Mall, and Albemarle Square Shopping Center 200 yards down the road. There are
also real estate offices, banks and other offices in the area. He asked the
supervisors to remember, when they hear the residential character of the area,
that residential is not the only activity represented in that area.
He next discussed the noise aspect of the situation, and he said the
members of this Board have seen and heard the noise that a go-kart makes. He
knows Board members will agree that it is not the same go-kart that he and the
supervisors remember from the 50s and 60s. He said the tracks are not the
same as then. The tracks are there for safety reasons, as well as to cut down
on the noise, so that there will not be ten cars abreast going around in a
circle. He mentioned that the supervisors have a letter in their packets from
a resident in Dallas who lives in an apartment complex next to a Putt-Putt Fun
Center. Mr. Carter read from this letter which indicated that the man's
apartment is approximately 150 feet from the Center, and the Center can be
seen from his bedroom window. This man noted that the noise from the go-kart
track and other attractions cannot be heard inside his apartment, and he does
not consider this a detriment to living there. Mr. Carter indicated that this
is the way Mr. Wood's facility will be run. It will be run first class
because it is going to be run by a family who cares and a family who wants to
make it work. There is a noise ordinance in this County, and the amusement
center will have to comply with this ordinance. If the amusement center
cannot comply with the Noise Ordinance, then it will be closed down. He
pointed out that if the go-karts had jet engines, and the applicant could
comply with the noise ordinance, then they should be allowed. He reiterated
that if the applicant cannot comply with the noise ordinance, then he should
not be allowed to have the go-karts. He said experts tell him that with the
proper screening, the applicant can comply with this ordinance.
Mr. Carter mentioned adverse impact on adjoining properties, and said he
has some sympathy to the Raintree Subdivision people who are at this meeting.
The distance they are from this facility, and considering the noise is not
going to be that great, he thinks they are too far away for it to make any
difference. He remarked that other Raintree residents' concerns, while valid,
can be addressed by proper management. He believes the proven management can
address concerns, such as the gathering areas, crime and vandalism, etc. He
then mentioned the adjoining R-15 property, and he pointed out that Mr. Wood
sold this property, and it is proposed to be developed with apartments. The
property this application concerns was high industrial and zoned for highway
commercial use at the time the R-15 property was sold. He pointed out that
this has not changed, and he thinks the buyer of this property knew this when
he bought the property, because he does not see how he could have missed the
Putt-Putt facility, or the Bonanza Restaurant or the NationsBank. This
property owner is saying the go-karts are going to bother him, and that he
cannot put modest income housing in Albemarle County. The supervisors have a
letter in their packets from the realtor who sold this piece of property to
the current owner. He read from the letter which indicated that during
meetings and conversations, the realtor made it very clear to disclose that
the existing Putt-Putt facility and adjacent properties were commercially
zoned. The letter continues by saying that there is no doubt in the realtor's
mind that the purchaser knew he was purchasing R-15 land adjoining C-1 and H-C
commercially zoned property with a pre-existing Putt-Putt Golf Family Center
that would be expanded within the existing commercial area.
Mr. Carter emphasized that he has sympathy for the neighborhood, but he
does not have sympathy for a developer, profit driven, to come in and say that
he cannot provide modest priced housing in Albemarle County because there is a
go-kart track there, or a batting cage. The Squire Hill apartments back up to
the Fashion Square Mall, and the road which goes to Toys-R-Us and Food Lion,
is becoming a major thoroughfare. These apartments are rented. He said that
what will drive modest priced housing in Albemarle County to be successful is
for it to be available, so that people do not have to drive from Palmyra or
Greene County. If he lived in Greene County and had to drive Route 29 North
every day, he would rather drive by a batting cage and a go-kart track to
these apartments. He said modest priced housing, when it is developed in this
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County, will attract people. If the price is moderate, the people will come.
He concluded his remarks by saying the business is family operated, well
thought out, designed by Putt-Putt and it would be operated right. This is a
modification of a 1966 Putt-Putt golf course into a 1994 use. He stated that
Mr. Wood wanted to speak briefly, and there is a sound expert available to
answer questions. Mr. Carter said he would also be available for questions.
Mr. Lloyd Wood stated that he and his wife are proposing this develop-
ment, and he believes he can comply with all of the ordinances. He went on to
say that when he began this venture, the concerns were noise, lights and hours
of operation. He assured Board members that since the Commission meeting,
tests have been done and submitted, which show that the decibel levels can be
met at the property lines, both on the eastern and northern sides. The lights
have been designed in such a fashion that they will not be a problem. He
noted that it was suggested, at the Commission meeting, that tests be done
here, rather than relying on tests submitted from out of the State. He
reiterated that Backstage, Inc., from Richmond, has conducted these tests, and
the results have been submitted. These results complement the other two
studies which were submitted showing the Noise Ordinance can be met with the
proper decibels, which range between 60 and 65 at the property line. He asked
Mr. Cameron Granger, from Backstage, Inc., who conducted the tests with one of
Mr. Wood's cars at the Rio Road location, to discuss the results of the tests.
He said Mr. Granger would also explain how the decibel rating can be obtained
on this particular piece of property.
Mr. Granger stated that he is one of the principals with Backstage, Inc.
in Richmond. His company does acoustical testing, sound design, system design
and 'installations. He informed Board members that he was asked to measure the
levels of sound that a go-kart generated at the property lines, and also at
certain distances into the adjoining property on the east side of the site.
The supervisors have the report which goes into detail and includes a lot of
technical print-out. The tests basically show that in the eastern direction,
toward the development which is already there, the woods are sufficiently
dense and the distance is sufficiently long, that even if all of the go-karts
were running on the track at the same time at full throttle, the sound
pressure level 250 feet out into the woods would only reach 55 decibels. He
noted that this is considerably below the limit, and it is well away from the
property line. He pointed out that it is a different story in a northern
direction toward the proposed apartment area. The distance is shorter and
there are no woods or adjoining natural barriers. Calculations showed in that
area, if all 15 cars were running, the sound pressure level at the property
line would be close to 74 decibels, which is in excess of the required decibel
level at the property line. However, it is common practice in all types of
commercial activities to build sound barriers, which can be earthen berms,
constructed fences or even buildings. In those cases, Mr. Granger stated the
potential sound reduction, through a properly designed barrier, is 15 to 20
decibels or more. There is no reason to assume that a suitable sound barrier
cannot be built along the northern boundary of the go-kart track, which would
sufficiently block the sound levels coming off the track to acceptable levels
as far as the sound ordinance is concerned. He would be happy to answer
questions relative to the methodology of the testing or any specific details
about the results.
Mrs. Thomas said she needed help reading the charts. She asked Mr.
Granger if, when the top line shows the number, "60," and the next line shows
a "minus 18," does this mean that the line is indicating 42 decibels. Mr.
Granger answered affirmatively. However, the graphs indicate a special
distribution and show the frequency range and all of the levels, but the
actual sound pressure level is in the lower right corner of the graphs.
He asked Mrs. Thomas to which graph she is referring. Mrs. Thomas responded
that she is looking at the graph marked, "Site H, 250 feet, Engine Full." She
asked if the actual sound pressure level is 43.6 for this situation. Mr.
Granger answered, "yes." He said this is the sum of all of the levels. For
reference, Mr. Granger indicated at Site H, that the ambient noise level was
measured, at 39.9, so at that particular point, it was just barely above the
noise of the woods. He noted that the ambient noise level at the property,
where the bumper boat area is located on the map, is around 42 or 43. He
pointed out that this noise level relates to a single go-kart, when a single
go-kart 'is tested, but there is the assumption that there will be 15 go-karts
running, it is a worse case assumption. He said the assumption would be that
all of the go-karts would be running at full throttle, side by side, and the
sound would add together coherently. The totals at the left of the page
relate to this type of situation. It is highly unlikely that the numbers
would ever reach this level, because the tracks circle throughout the whole
proposed area, and the go-karts would be spaced widely apart.
Mrs. Thomas asked if Mr. Granger tested in any way the bumper boats'
motor sounds. Mr. Granger answered that there had been no bumper boat
testing on the site. He then noted that the loudest thing tested by his
company representatives was a leaf blower, and the noise level was consider-
ably louder than the go-karts.
Mr. Marshall asked if a riding lawn mower has been tested. Mr. Granger
responded that tests were done on a conventional push lawn mower and a lawn
tractor. He said the conventional lawn mower was slightly less noisy than the
go-kart, and the lawn tractor was slightly more noisy. He noted that the
current generation of go-karts are four cycle Honda engines that are very
different from the one with which he was familiar. The report mentions that
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the go-kart was tested on an elevated, hardwood platform, because the proposed
area is a grassy field. If tests had been done on a grassy field, lower
readings would have been obtained, and this would have been unfair to the
potential neighbors. He said a hardwood platform was used for the testing, so
that the reflections would be the same as if the go-kart was running on a
track. He pointed out that the go-kart was taken to the existing parking lot
and the sound was measured again, after all of the other testing was done, and
on an asphalt parking lot, the sound was slightly lower in level than it was
on the raised platform.
There were no further questions from Board members for Mr. Granger.
Next, Mrs. Humphris told Mr. Wood that she has gotten different interpre-
tations of the bumper boat noise, so she would like to know all about it. Mr.
Wood answered that the bumper boat has a much smaller engine and a different
engine than the four cycle Honda engine, with overhead valves, that is in
go-karts. He said the bumper boat has only a two horse power engine, and it
only generates enough power to spin an innertube type of bumper boat in a 360
degree circle or propel it forward at a low rate of speed. He went on to say
that all of the noise and emissions are emitted under the water, so it is
muffled as the exhaust comes out from under the water. He pointed out that
there was not a suggestion that the bumper boats be tested, because there was
not a question that decibel ratings would be needed at the property line
between his land and the property immediately to the east.
Mrs. Humphris wondered if the engines on the bumper boats are above
water. Mr. Wood replied, "yes." Mrs. Humphris then asked if the exhaust on
the bumper boats is underwater. Mr. Wood answered affirmatively. He said the
exhaust is totally below the water, and he reiterated that there are no
emissions above the water. He noted, too, that there is no way that gas or
oil could get under the water. He added that, basically, the questions have
related to the sound level of the bumper boats. He emphasized that the
sound is muffled under the water, and he said that this is a better muffler
than the manmade mufflers which are on other engines. He has never had a
problem with the bumper boats. He then stated that decibel levels will be
met at the property line, whether they relate to go-karts or bumper boats.
All of Mr. Granger's tests indicate this can easily be done With the three
methods which Mr. Granger mentioned. Mr. Wood next reaffirmed what Mr.
Granger had said by stating that there is plenty of stored earth on the
property, which can be used for the earthen berm. He said, too, that land-
scape architects and engineers will be consulted and the surveys will be used
to decide what plantings would be best to muffle the noise. Thirdly, Mr. Wood
informed the Board members that the sound barrier fence could be constructed.
He stated that a combination of one or all of these methods will adequately
meet the sound ordinance. He does not mind the conditions, and he will comply
with the ordinances that are set by the County.
Since there were no more questions from Board members for the applicant
or his representatives, Mrs. Humphris opened the public hearing. She said
first of all, the members of this Board have read the minutes of the Commis-
sion meeting, as well as the letters and they have listened to the phone
calls, so they have an excellent background of information. She went on to
say that the supervisors want everybody to have an opportunity to say every-
thing that they want to say, but she asked that the speakers be brief. She
said it is obvious that a lot of the people in the audience are at the meeting
for this issue, so she asked that the speaker not repeat what other people
have said. She added that speakers can ask for a show of hands of people who
agree with their statements, and this would help a lot, and there would be a
clear understanding of their feelings.
Mr. Donald Lyon stated that he is President of the Raintree Homeowners
Association, and he introduced Mr. John McDowell, the Association's Vice
President. He said their purpose at this meeting is not to discuss the need
for such a facility, if, in fact, one is needed. If there is a need, it
should be put in the long range plan and placed where it will be the most
benefit for the County, and not solely for the profit motives of a developer
who previously voiced his opposition to a similar facility at Kegler's. When
this proposal went before the Commission, the developer stated that this was
an expansion of an existing use. He added that an expansion of an existing
use might be another 18 holes of golf. This is more than a mere expansion.
This is going to be an amusement park.
Mr. McDowell commented that one of the major concerns of the Raintree
Homeowners Association is the rationale of saying that this is an expansion of
an existing use, would be the same as if he, personally, said that just
because he has a private residence, he can develop a high rise on it. He said
the scope of this operation will be changed drastically. This is not a quiet
or semi-quiet type of operation. This is a large operation which has dissimi-
lar activities.
Mr. Lyon stated that there have been two previous disapprovals by the
Board of Supervisors for similar facilities and one recent disapproval by a
unanimous decision of the Commission.
Mr. McDowell commented that one of the things that was brought up was the
fact that there would be no additional police required. He said this is based
on an assumption that this is nothing more than merely an expansion of an
existing use. The Police Department has not been involved in this, however,
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he understands they would welcome the opportunity to take a closer look at
this operation and what impact it might have, as far as the local community is
concerned. He said the Association has a major concern, but he thinks it will
be discussed more in detail as'the presentation takes place. He mentioned
that the staff report indicated this activity would discourage future residen-
tial development. He contended that it would destroy future residential
development. Once a carnival environment has been created, or a carnival
atmosphere, the only type of activities that will be developed will be those
things that are compatible with a carnival environment. He anticipates that
if this application is approved, toward the end of the summer, when the
elephants, tigers and hot air balloons come around, they will probably be
located down a little way from this activity.
Mr. Lyon stated that it is already known what the concepts of operations
are. He said there are batting cages and raceway bumper boats. He wondered
what else will locate in that area if it is zoned in this manner. He noted
that the Association members have had a meeting with Mr. Wood in the past, and
Mr. Wood explained that, on peak nights, the business will be open until 1:30
a.m. He said being so close to a residential community, the Association finds
this very troublesome. He mentioned that Mr. Wood had said he would have
someone to police the area, but Mr. Lyon wondered who is going to police the
grounds outside of the park in the parking lot and in the wooded areas
abutting Raintree Subdivision. He stated that the Association has genuine
concerns, and they need to be addressed.
Mr. McDowell commented that representatives of Mr. Wood say they will not
sell alcoholic beverages, which are allowed, with this type of activity. He
wondered how many adolescents buy alcoholic beverages from over the counter in
a public location, when crime and an increase in destructive behavior are
considered. He said this will most likely happen. He next said Mr. Wood had
mentioned in a previous statement last fall that one of the reasons the Arcade
was closed in Fashion Square Mall was because the Mall could not afford the
security costs of policing the area. He noted that many people are not aware
of the fact that there was a contract which included two off duty security
policemen to be at the Arcade, and they were backed up by the normal security
police. He added that in this situation, there is one individual who will
manage the park and take care of all of the activities within the park. He
asked if it is the citizens' responsibility or the police's responsibility to
take care of the areas that are not controlled. He thinks it is a shared
responsibility.
Mr. Lyon remarked that crime cannot be projected, but when a large crowd
is attracted to a certain area, the potential for crime is real. He realizes
a small percentage of the population is responsible for the percentage of
crimes which are committed, but he noted that large crowds increase the
chances and likelihood of crimes and vandalism. He noted that recently there
was a rash of vandalism in Raintree during the Easter break. The Association
feels, that because the neighborhood is within such close proximity to this
facility, there will be joy riders throughout the neighborhoods and there will
be cruising in cars. He reiterated that the potential is real, and the
Association is worried about this problem.
Mr. McDowell stated that during the past two weeks, there were some
problems in the area, such as four break-ins of cars, numerous vandalism,
destruction of mailboxes, etc. He understands the police caught these
individuals, and they are underage, but the homeowners do not know the
details. This possibility exists, and the Association members believe that by
attracting more people to this area, there will be many more problems than
there have been in the past. The park has been touted as being a family
activity park. He believes, however, that the focus is going to be primarily
for teenagers and young adults. He understands there will probably be a
petition presented to this Board that was signed by a number of Albemarle
County high school students to show their support. He then mentioned the
traffic. He said that, in previous statements, he believes the petitioner had
mentioned the people who hang around'Fashion Square Mall will go to the
location which was proposed toward Kegler's. His Association members believe
that if this were true at that time, then they believe this is true today, and
the park will attract those undesirable type of people to this area. He
mentioned that these people will be moving across the street taking an
immediate right from the mall, and then an immediate left into the park. He
emphasized that the park will be open until 12:00 a.m. to 1:30 a.m, depending
upon how many people are actually in the area. He next said the park will be
a nuisance to the community, and he and Mr. Lyon would talk more about the
major concerns of the residents of Raintree, and the problems that this
facility will create. He then mentioned personal safety and he brought out
the fact that there are a lot of people in the community who jog at night.
Raintree is not well lit, and joggers run, not only in the subdivision, but
also on Old Brook Road and Rio Road. There are already problems with people
speeding, and almost hitting joggers and people who walk at night with
their families. He anticipated that there will be a percentage of joy riders
who ran out of money when they were at the arcade, but do not feel like going
home, so they are just cruising the neighborhood to see what they can do
to keep themselves occupied.
Mr. Lyon remarked that with the increased people at the proposed facili-
ty, there is the problem with home security. There are a number of homes that
will be backing up to this facility, and there will be nobody in the woods to
spot people. He asked who is to say that there will not be people looking at
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these homes to see who is at home and who is not, and then burglarizing the
houses. He mentioned that with the attraction of crowds, there are prowlers.
These threats are real and are legitimate concerns, and the homeowners need to
voice their opinions. He had already expressed the concern about noise to the
Commission. He knows the go-karts are going to generate a lot of sound, as
well as the public address (PA) system. There will also be noise from the
music and the crowds screaming, yelling and having fun, and the cumulative
effect will be overwhelming.
Mr. McDowell pointed out that a letter was written by a resident in
Dallas. He talked to the manager of the Dallas Putt-Putt facility approxi-
mately a month ago, and the manager mentioned that immediately at the
end of the race track in Dallas there is a six foot brick wall and a parking
lot. The manager pointed out that on the other side of the parking lot there
is a two foot earthen berm with an eight foot wooden fence on top of it. The
manager noted that at the apartment complex, there are four Trane air condi-
tioning units that power the air conditioning for the whole complex. Mr.
McDowell said he does not think there will be anything near this amount of
buffer at the proposed facility in Albemarle County. Under the circumstances
that he has described, he does not think the people in the apartment complex
in Dallas could hear much beyond their complex.
Mr. Lyon concurred that the air conditioning units displace a lot of air.
They are like an air curtain, and they have a sound dampening effect, which
the Raintree neighborhood does not have.
Next, Mr. McDowell discussed the issue of light pollution. He said the
proposed area is four times the size that the business is now, with the
emphasis on safety. This will result in a lot of lighting, with near daylight
conditions. These lights will not only be seen in close proximity to the
park, but also throughout the area.
Mr. Lyon stated that there is a five year printout from the Police
Department on crimes committed in Fashion Square Mall. He noted that there
was no comparison with Raintree and Fashion Square Mall. He said Raintree's
five year printout shows violations mostly of parking and noise complaints.
He reiterated that the threat is real, and the residents are very disturbed
about something of this nature coming into the community.
Mr. McDowell asked where places such as the proposed park are normally
found. He said that by studying some of the information produced by the
petitioner and the staff, two specific locations were cited. He said the
Rainforest Family Recreation Center is located in Atlanta, Georgia; the Colt
Road Putt-Putt is in Dallas, Texas; and finally the Putt-Putt, operated by Mr.
Wood, is in Charlottesville. It was mentioned in the initial report that this
type of activity is not normally found in office service designation. He
noted that in other places, such activities are located near industrial
manufacturing or C-4 type areas which is clearly not the case in this particu-
lar situation.
Mr. Lyon stated that the conclusions of the Homeowners' Association are
that this will cause irreparable damage to the existing community, it will
increase crime, property values will drop, and it will destroy future develop-
ment within this area.
Mr. McDowell stated that the major factor to consider has to do with
future development. When Putt-Putt Golf and Games was established in 1966,
there was not much in that area. Now that civilization has moved there,
consideration has to be given to the type of development that will occur in
that area. He believes if there really is a need for this type of activity,
then the supervisors need to look at it in the context of a long range plan.
This Board needs to decide how it wants this community to look. The Associa-
tion members know that there is going to be development, and that something is
going to be built there. The supervisors know this, and he noted that there
will be things built all around that neighborhood. He commented, though, that
the community and this Board need to be judicious, and they need to decide
what they want in the community. The petitioner had referred to this type of
activity in an earlier statement as being, "trendy." This means that this
activity is popular now, but it would not be five years from now. He asked
what happens five years from now. He wondered if this type of environment is
already established there, will it stay the same, or will it be increased to
include more things. This is the biggest concern of the Association. He
asked what is envisioned for this area now, and what is envisioned for this
area in the future.
Mr. Lyon brought out the faCt that there was an amusement park in Salem,
Virginia that had money problems and went bankrupt. He inquired if this
property is zoned for the amusement park and it does not succeed, what is
going to follow this activity.
Mr. Lyon stated that the Association members would like to see the Board
deny the special use permit for this amusement park. This park is not in
character with the existing communities and will be a detriment to surrounding
areas. Any such park should be exclusively zoned in an area with the same
zoning.
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Mr. McDowell commented that if the locations of such activities are
examined, they will be found in areas with the same zoning. He said that this
concludes his and Mr. Lyon, s presentation, and he added that they would be
happy to answer questions.
At this time, Mr. Lyon read a letter from the Vice President of the
Fieldbrook Homeowners Association in which the Vice President stated that the
matter had been brought to his Association's attention by the Raintree
Homeowners' Association. As indicated in the letter, the Vice President
went on to say that there appear to be predominantly negative factors involved
with this amusement park. Mr. Lyon read from the letter that most significant
of these factors are the disruptive sound levels and the enhanced potential
for juvenile misconduct in a largely residential area. The Vice President of
the Fieldbrook Homeowners Association noted in the letter that the Fieldbrook
Board membership share a common opinion that the proposed expansion of the
Putt-Putt facility would not be in the best interest of this community, and is
confident that the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors, consistent with the
views of the Commission and the opinions expressed by other residential areas
in this area, will oppose this proposal.
Mr. McDowell stated that he has coordinated some of the things that the
Homeowners' Associations have to say. It is hoped that the comments by these
Associations can be presented, so that the officers can speak for all of the
Associations' members.
Ms. Alice Feehley-Maus, President of the Homeowners' Association of
Northfields, stated that, although this will not directly affect her neighbor-
hood, her Association members concur absolutely with everything representa-
tives from the Raintree neighborhood have said. The amusement park will be
detrimental. She mentioned that there are children who will be presenting
petitions at this meeting, and she does not feel the location will stop the
children from coming to the facility. She thinks the wrong location has been
chosen. She then pointed out that every neighborhood association from
Carrsbrook to Rio Road and Route 29 to Dunlora is represented at this meeting.
She thinks the supervisors need to think about this fact.
A student representing other students from Albemarle High School stated
that she has petitions in favor of the facility. Every person to whom she
presented the petition was in favor of it, and she said this facility would
mean that there is finally something to do in Charlottesville. She asked if
parents would rather have their children walking the streets, going to parties
or having fun at a recreational center that is being supervised. She said
this center will not make more children on the streets in Raintree, but,
instead they will be going to the center to have fun. The Putt-Putt facility
is a great place, and she has played Putt-Putt there, and she has never seen
any vandalism. She has played Putt-Putt as late as 11:30 p.m., and there have
been many children there her age, and not one child has ever presented a
problem that she has seen.
A junior from Albemarle High School stated that she believes the Putt-
Putt Golf Course is already an asset to the community, and it would be
enhanced by adding these proposed expansions. She agreed with the previous
speaker that there are few activities for children her age to do, and espe-
cially for children who are not involved in extra curricular activities or
sports, or even those students who are involved, and have extra time on their
hands. The children enjoy coming to the Putt-Putt Golf Course, because it has
such a great reputation for being good, clean, wholesome entertainment. She
said that parents often enjoy sending their children there because it is
always well supervised. She has petitions from just a sampling of students
from Albemarle High School who would love to have this expansion. She stated
that, of all the sites proposed, so far, Putt-Putt is the best and most
logical choice because of the central location. In addition, she said the
facility is already established, and it has ample parking.
A gentleman stated that, after listening to the presentation of the
Raintree President and Vice President, he has the feeling that he should move
to another town because of the crime rate. He hopes the supervisors will give
this proposal an opportunity for the children in the community. He commented
that he has six children, and he has known the Woods for many, many years.
He is a part of a family business also, and he knows what that is all about.
After watching the Raintree presentation, he finds it ironic that the Raintree
representatives showed the different Putt-Putts all over the country, but when
they spoke of the one in Charlottesville, they showed the church. He pointed
out that the Raintree residents were opposed to that church. The Raintree
residents have been in the limelight quite a bit with the wrecker situation
with Charles Jones, among other things. He stated that Mr. Wood is a busi-
nessman who has lived here all of his life, and he wants to put something into
the community. Mr. Wood is not taking anything away from anyone. The company
which did the sound testing is not a slipshod operation. He said it is a
highly recommended company, but he believes the company representative failed
to mention one thing. Being a musician, he knows that high frequencies do not
travel. He added that it is the bass frequencies that carry, and he knows
this because he has played music outside. He reiterated that the high
frequency from these motors will not carry. He pointed out that when he plays
for large rooms of people, there has to be equipment to get the highest
frequencies to the back of the room. He emphasized that the highest noise
with the go-kart motors will drop, and the bass frequencies will carry, and
there is not that type of frequency involved with the go-karts. He asked the
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Board to consider this request in a different light, and he has compassion for
people who do not want noise. This facility is like a prison because every-
body wants them to be available, but they do not want them in their back
yards. The Putt-Putt Golf Course has been in operation since 1966, and he has
played golf there. He recalled that when he was a child, the only place that
his brother took him was to the Kenny Burger, and after that, they rode around
in circles. He commented that he would like for his children to have a decent
place to go. If the crime rate is as high as the people have indicated it is
at the mall, then he does not want to shop there anymore. He hopes this Board
will give the Woods a chance to show how nice this park will be, so that other
children can enjoy it, as well as the supervisors' grandchildren. He reiter-
ated that he has six children and he loves them all, and he hopes they can
have a nice place to go to have fun. The Woods have certainly provided that
with the Bonanza Restaurant and the Putt-Putt Golf and Games.
Ms. Joan Shaw, a member of the community of Camelot Subdivision, said
that she appreciates the fact that Mr. Wood has run a respectable business as
long as she has lived here. It is nice to have the four "Ps" in the area --
the pool, the park, Putt-Putt and the playground at Pantops at McDonalds. She
noted that these are about the only places around here that she can take her
children. She said that after 16 times down the slide it is nice to have
something besides this around the area. She is looking forward to raising her
children in this county, and she would like to know that there are going to be
things that, as they get older, they will be able to do that will be clean and
supervised. In her profession, she knows a person tends to judge someone who
is being hired, based on their past performance. She added that an employer
does not go by what the applicant says he or she is going to do, but by what
they have done in the past. Mr. Wood has shown in the past, by his years of
service in this community, that he is capable of fulfilling the things that
he has promised. If Mr. Wood says he will keep the noise down, based on his
past actions, she believes that he will do that. As far as security issues
are concerned she has never thought that the Putt-Putt was a "hangout, or she
would not go there with her young family. She concluded by saying that she
hopes the supervisors will consider approving this expansion because she would
like to see it in this community, as a service to her family.
Next to speak was Mr. Rob Ingram, representing the Rio Hills Associates
Limited Partnership, which is the affordable housing project which may go on
the property adjacent to the proposed go-kart track. He addressed a concern
by Mr. Forrest Marshall, which he expressed at the last meeting, about
definitions of affordable housing. He said the Rio Hills Associates Limited
Partnership has not vested itself with an affordable housing title, but it
is one which has been conferred upon it by the State and Federal government.
His Partnership has qualified under the relevant code sections of the Internal
Revenue Service for low and moderate income housing, and as part of that
qualification, the Partnership is entitled to use the term, "affordable
housing." He reiterated that this is not his term, but it is a governmental
tax credit term, and he asked the supervisors to note that this term repre-
sents low and moderate income housing.
Mr. Marshall asked what area pertains to this low and moderate income
housing. Mr. Ingram answered that he is referring to the Albemarle County
area. He said qualifications are done on a regional basis. He said that low
and affordable moderate housing in Washington, D.C. may have a vastly differ-
ent price scale and meaning than low and affordable housing in Radford,
Virginia.
Mr. Marshall recalled that he had asked Mr. Ingram at the last meeting
how much he was going to charge for the housing. Mr. Ingram replied that he
is prepared to speak to that right now. The State and Federal government,
which everyone answers to including this Board, has designated these apart-
ments as affordable housing. It is low and moderate income eligible housing,
and it compares to rental units of similar quality and similar nature in the
area. This shows that his company is, in fact what it states it is, regard-
less of government designation. He next showed the Board a rental cost
comparison which he got by calling the rental offices of the listed apart-
ments. He pointed out that the Rio Hills Apartments are the cheapest of the
group.
Mr. Marshall stated that these are not the figures that Mr. Ingram had
given him at a previous time. Mr. Ingram responded that these figures have
been corrected, and these are figures from a public record with the Virginia
Housing Development Corporation. The figures have also been so signified in
other documents, and he would be more than happy to present them to the
Board. He then mentioned that these apartments represent a 15 year obligation
that has to be met by his company. He noted that there has been a lot of
time, effort and valuable resources involved to meet this obligation.
Mr. Marshall remarked that he is curious about the figures, because Mr.
Ingram had previously quoted figures of $550.00 to $600.00, and now he is
reporting figures of $408.00 to $505.00. Mr. Ingram replied that when Mr.
Marshall asked him the question at the last hearing, he was not prepared to
answer, and he was answering off the top of his head, based on the challenge
that Mr. Marshall presented to him. He has gone back and documented fully
what is meant by affordable housing in terms of the governmental designations
and the rights and privileges pertaining thereto, in terms of pragmatic
comparisons to rental units of comparable quality in a comparable style in the
area. If Mr. Marshall takes issue with the correctness of those statements,
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then he encourages him to investigate the matter with the Virginia Housing
Development Corporation which gave his company the tax credit, the signature
of the Director of the Corporation is on the designation in the declaration
giving his company the right to claim that title. He then read to the
supervisors some quotes from the September 15, 1993, Board of Supervisors
minutes, when this Board was reviewing the application of Todd Shields for the
proposed identical facility at Kegler's. He quoted, "In the Albemarle County
Comprehensive Plan of four years ago, this area was stressed as, needing
residential affordable housing." When addressing how it would change the
character of the area, the speaker said, "Let's not take away from the good
things we have done and spent tax dollars on in the last four years."
Addressing the intended uses, the speaker said, "Go-karts and batting cages
are trendy. They are hot and they are cold. Fifteen years ago, you could not
give away a batting cage. I had six of them. I finally gave three to the
Little League for batting practice, and the rest I use for spare parts. Land
use is not a trendy thing. It is for life." The speaker went on to address
the problems that the Mall had with a game room facility such as is proposed
at this particular location. He quoted, "Sears in the Mall got rid of their
game room because of vandalism, drugs, counterfeit money being passed in there
and constant problems controlling violence and other things." He said the
game room was terminated for, "lack of security and lack of being able to
afford proper security to keep out drugs and violence." The speaker noted
that the proposal would be, "transferring those bad elements from the Mall."
The same speaker at the September 15, 1993, meeting went on to estimate that
this similar project would draw in excess of 1,000 people a day, if it is peak
time in the summer. The speaker had good reason for making this statement,
because he had experience with this type of thing. Mr. Ingram went on to
quote the speaker by saying that, "Once you do away with affordable zoning for
R-6 land, it is gone forever. The die will be cast for a future commercial
strip, and the residential signs will be gone forever." The speaker concluded
by saying that he was speaking on behalf of the parents and children through-
out the County. Mr. Ingram stated that he believes everyone will have to
agree with him that this is an eloquent condemnation of this type of activity.
He then said the speaker at the September 15, 1993, meeting was L. F. Wood.
Mr. Ingram asked what has changed in the intervening time since these very
cogent and honest and forthright comments of L. F. Wood were made in Septem-
ber. Mr. Ingram said nothing has changed, except Mr. Wood's opportunity now
to profit at the expense of the very children and parents he purported to
represent just a few short months ago.
Mr. Ingram stated that he would like to take this opportunity to
introduce to the supervisors a sound expert which his company has retained,
and he distributed the expert's curriculum vitae for the Board members'
review. He would preface the introduction of Mr. Jeffrey A. Straw by saying
that some time shortly before noon today, Mr. Wood's expert tendered his
report. He said that Mr. Wood's expert's report was from an assessment done
on March 22, 1993 and observed by some members of the Board. He cannot
account for the delay in presenting this report to the Board, but his com-
pany's expert has had just a brief opportunity to look at it. He said Mr.
Straw would address the Board briefly, and he will be able to speak to some
important issues regarding the validity of the one go-kart test that Mr. Wood
conducted, and he will also be able to give the supervisors the results of a
comparable, fair, valid and appropriate test that he has been asked to conduct
on his company's behalf. He said after Mr. Straw has finished his presenta-
tion, he will have one short comment. He then introduced Mr. Jeffrey Straw.
Mr. Jeffrey Straw stated that he appreciated the opportunity to speak to
the Board members. He is Vice President and Area Manager of Geosonics, which
is an international vibration and acoustic consulting firm. He has the
distinct opportunity to run the office in Florida, and during the past winter,
he was glad that he was there and not here. He informed the supervisors, for
the record, that his company's address is: 1900 North University Drive, Suite
101, Penbrook Pines, Florida. His credentials will state that he has, for the
last 16 years, done vibration and acoustic consulting work dealing with varied
areas, such as interior, exterior measurements, operations related to mining,
quarrying, development and highway traffic noise. His company has even
monitored aircraft over flights. His company has also done some work in
regard to Navy sonic booms, as they relate to the response of individuals,
which he says is the crux of the matter with this issue. He distributed a
report which his company prepared, and he said that he was contacted approxi-
mately three weeks ago to prepare a general report evaluating noise. He has
waited in anticipation to be able to review the applicant's report on noise.
He saw the report this afternoon, and he has had an opportunity to briefly
review it.
Mr. Shaw said he was asked to evaluate noise on residential apartments
adjacent to this site, which are the closest neighbors to this proposed
facility, as well as to the surrounding community. The apartments are not yet
built, but they are ready to be built. Based on this information, Mr. Straw
said that, rather than taking guesswork and trying,to extrapolate some general
numbers, he used a go-kart track facility that was close to his office in Ft.
Lauderdale, Florida. He pointed out some photographs and general information
in the back of his report. The photographs show what the go-karts are like
and a viewpoint of the general facility. The facility that he tested operates
40 to 50 carts simultaneously in an area one-half mile long by one quarter of
a mile wide. The noise testing period ran approximately from 9:30 p.m. to
10:00 p.m. on a Saturday evening. The site on the western side is bordered by
1-95, and it probably has twice the traffic as Route 29 North. The site is
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located within an industrial park, and one and one-half miles south of the Ft.
Lauderdale International Airport, which has commercial and airline traffic
operating 24 hours a day. On the south side, there is a silica sand opera-
tion, according to Mr. Straw, and he said that geographically, and from a land
use standpoint, this facility is well buffered. This facility has a central
corridor, and on the south side is the serpentine go-kart track that is
pictured, which is similar to the applicant's proposal, except it is larger in
size. On the north side of the site, there are batting cages, a larger
version of the Putt-Putt Golf and Games, another small NASCAR style circular
go-kart track and some other recreational facilities, such as bungee jumping,
etc. There are two major parking lots, and during the time that he was
standing within 60 feet, which would be about where the closest property line
is to the residential apartments on Mr. Wood's site, he could not hear 1-95 at
all. He could watch the airplanes land, but he could never hear them. He did
not hear the Putt-Putt Golf Course, the batting cages or anything on the north
side because of the decibels that were produced by this go-kart track.
He stated that two studies were done, and the distance of approximately
35 feet was measured, so that he could study some general up close noise. He
said that two things were determined. First of all, Mr. Straw stated that the
noises ranged from 65 decibels for a single go-kart operating to approximately
78 to 79 decibels for multiple go-karts. He has listened to the applicant's
expert talk this evening about how the go-kart track operates, and he (Mr.
Straw) was led to believe that the go-karts travel in a single line, and they
go around in a circle. This just does not happen. He has never seen more
hard fought racing than there is at the go-kart track. He feared for his life
when he left in his vehicle hoping that the people he just watched with the
go-karts were not on the road. The cars travel in packs of three to eight,
and a single car would go by, and then there would be eight cars going by
together. The fact that there is a single test done is not applicable to this
site. In addition, Mr. Straw stated that the aggregate noise from all of the
other facilities has not been brought out. He said the go-kart track over-
shadows all of them, but they are there in the background, and in the middle
of the facility or toward the area of Raintree, there is an aggregate total
from all of these things. The geography of this site, in the direction of the
residential apartments, is very flat, and the noise will carry. The area
toward Raintree has some valleys, and depending upon the direction of the
noise and the prevailing winds, the noise will travel up those valleys and
will focus in some of those areas. On days when there is cloud cover, the
noise reflects up and off the clouds, and it focuses at different spots, so
what is done within a small area within the perimeter of a go-kart track, can
be extended. He noted that people respond to noise. He said that scientists,
engineers and evaluators address this very technically. He pointed out that
people respond typically to one thing, and that is what is the interference
level to them. At the 77 to 78 decibels that were produced and measured at
this operating facility, he had to shout to be heard by a person three feet
away from him. The supervisors use a PA system to talk to the people in the
back of the room. There is also supposed to be a PA system at Mr. Wood's
site, and there is one at the track in Ft. Lauderdale. He stated that every
45 seconds or more often as the place got busier, the PA system was talking,
and it talked all night long. He informed the Board members that the facility
operates all day long, but it begins to get busy about 7:00 p.m. or 8:00 p.m.
at night, and it goes on until 2:00 a.m. The hours presented for Mr. Wood's
site run until 1:30 a.m. The other thing that people are concerned about is
how this will interfere with their speech, sleep and activities. At 77 to 78
decibels, at 60 feet, which is where the residential apartments will be, it
will interfere on the outside, and there will be complaints. He pointed out
that, at that distance, the sound is in violation of the County ordinance,
although the applicant says that he can comply with the ordinance.
He next talked about the report from the applicant's expert. One
go-kart was used, mounted on a flat bed trailer so that a test could be
conducted and monitored at different areas. When the test was monitored at
close range, it measured 93 decibels. He stated that 93 decibels is like a
chain saw running seven to ten feet away. He has a power, circular saw, at
home, and he used it to cut some wood last night. It measures 93 decibels,
three feet away, which is as far as from where he is standing now, to the
other end of the podium. The OSHA standards for hearing and noise compliance
indicate that, at these measurements of noise, hearing protection should be
worn. These are noisy types of vehicles, and he is trying to give Board
members an accurate picture of what is going on. It is also an irregular
noise. The applicant's test involved one go-kart on a flat surface on a
trailer, the accelerator was held down by the applicant, himself, so there is
no correlation as to what went on, and a decibel reading was made. He stated
that this is not an appropriate test, because the engine is not under load and
it is not an irregular noise. Instead, it is a constant pitch, and so the
octave analysis, to which the applicant's expert referred, does not hold true
for the site. He also conducted a test on lower frequencies, to show how bass
and treble sounds are heard. The gentleman who talked about the music is
quite right. High pitched noise does not travel quite as far. He added,
however, that he is wrong about the fact that most of the noise that is here
is in the lower pitches, and it will travel a long distance. This is why
vehicle noise is such a problem. In addition to the engine noise, the voices
of the people who are having a good time have to be considered. He added that
they are yelling back and forth to each other, they are squealing, and the
tires squeal as they go around a corner, and the vehicles bump into each
other.
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Mr. Shaw called attention to the pictures that he brought to the
meeting, and he said the cars are not in perfect condition, because they run
into each other. The study also said that, technically, the noise meter was
set up to exclude sounds of short and fast durations. The problem is that
these sounds need to be picked up, because that is the noise to which every-
body responds. He stated that sharp, high pitched, very fast sounds make up
the characteristic of what is going on at the site, so if the study does not
show it, then the study is not valid. The applicant's study does not take
into consideration the construction that is there, and there are buildings
located there. The study does not take into consideration any type of
reflection, because the go-kart was set up on a trailer, and that is not a
reflection off of the ground. He said that this is not free field measure-
ment. Free field measurement is when a car is operating and running on a
track, and he pointed out that there is a difference between asphalt and a
trailer, because the noise reflects. The study does not mention anything
about the weather, and he said that sound travels very differently in
different conditions. If the weather is monitored during cool, low humidity
conditions, the noise travels much further and is more audible, such as during
the month of March, when it is cooler. The way sound travels may vary, and
that was not tested by the applicant's expert at all. He said that his (Mr.
Straw's) report gave the applicant the benefit of the doubt. He pointed out
there was a 20 mile an hour wind blowing at his back in one direction, and
there was some increased noise levels on the other side. He also heard
tonight that the ambient noise level at the site was 39 decibels. He did a
noise test before he came here on that site, and it is 54 decibels. This is a
significantly different number, and he wonders how different are all the other
numbers. He does a tremendous amount of work in earth work operations in
noise measurement and evaluations, etc. The type of berm that is necessary
has to go within the piece of property that was recently rezoned, between the
apartments and the race track, and it will have to resemble a buffer that is
located on Route 29 or larger. It will have to be very tall, well planted and
almost solid. This is great when the go-kart tracks are close, because some
of the noise will be reflected. He told the supervisors, however, that the
problem is when the go-karts are at the other end of the tracks, and they are
still making the low frequency sounds, but, then, the berm is absolutely
worthless, because it will not provide any kind of noise buffer at that point.
The wave lengths that are produced by the longer, lower frequency waves
reflect up and over the berm. He has seen this and has demonstrated it. He
noted that the effective way to use a berm is to have a single point source
on one side of the berm and then measure on the other side. This is not the
case at this site. There is a go-kart track that is spread out over a long
distance, there is a proposed berm, and there is an area on the other side, so
that the noise barrier does not work very well. He added that a concrete wall
will cause reflected noise. He understands the berm is approximately 50 feet
wide or more, and there is access to another residential parcel, and that is
the only access available. He noted that it would be hard to build a berm
where there could be access to other property, so this will limit what can be
done.
Mr. Shaw next referred to the bumper boats, and he said that the
supervisors have been led to believe that they do not make any noise at all,
or the noise is very limited. He emphasized that the bumper boats do make
noise because the engines are above the water. He stated that the exhausts
may come out under the water, but it does not make any difference, because
they will eventually bubble to the surface, and the engine rattles the whole
compartment. Mr. Straw said that based on what his company has reviewed, such
as the site's specific characteristics, these two land uses are not compati-
ble. The residential use does not mesh well with what is proposed. He added
that the study by the applicant's expert is not thorough enough nor is it
correct, in his opinion, to give the Board enough information to make a
positive recommendation. His studies clearly indicate from an operational
track, that Mr. Wood's proposed facility will violate the ordinance. He said
that when an ordinance is violated, there will be complaints, and the County
will have to expend money to enforce those complaints. The supervisors and
the County staff will get calls at all hours, because the greatest noise
annoyance will be late in the evening, from 10:00 p.m. and later. He talked
to an off-duty Florida highway patrolman who patrols the park where he (Mr.
Straw) monitored the noise. This officer wanted to know who he was and why he
was there, and he mentioned that there are three other officers there who
watch the operation all the time. He emphasized that this patrolman stated
that the vehicle traffic does not stop at 2:00 a.m. when the park closes down.
The officers try to get everybody out of the park, but they just move down the
road, so there is a tremendous increase in traffic. He emphasized that there
can be a tremendous increase in traffic here, which again adds to the noise
level. He would think a park of this nature would be more compatible on Route
29. He looked at the site which was recently denied, and he stated that this
is an area where there will not be a problem with noise, although there are
other aspects with which to deal, such as ingress and egress. He added that,
as a recommendation from him, Route 29 would be an ideal place to put a park
such as Mr. Wood's. He conducted a noise test with bumper boats at another
amusement park in Florida, and this park also had batting cages, and a golf
driving range. It was next to 1-595, which is a small interstate in Florida,
and it is also in the middle of an industrial park. He would be glad to
answer any questions.
Mrs. Humphris asked if Board members had any questions for Mr. Straw.
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Mr. Martin stated that he has questions, but he is unsure to whom they
should be directed. The machine that he listened to this afternoon, at the
Charlottesville Putt-Putt facility, was measured by one sound expert at less
than 60 decibels. Yet, another sound expert is saying that a person has to
yell in order for other people to hear what is being said, if he is in such a
facility. He pointed out that this is a tremendous discrepancy. He is in
court often, and he hears psychologists disagree as to whether or not people
are responsible for what they are saying, but he has never heard such a
discrepancy even in this type of situation. He is not questioning either
expert's data, but he actually listened to and rode on a machine this after-
noon.
Mr. Marshall commented that he means no disrespect to either sound
expert, and he understands that they are scientists who are supposed to inform
the Board members. He stated, though, that the go-kart in the photographs is
not the same go-kart that he and Mr. Martin experienced this afternoon. It
seems to him that the comparisons are not valid. Both experts Want to get
their points across, and the supervisors have to make a judgment, but he is
not going to believe things that are not true from either person. He has a
farm with three farm tractors and two lawn tractors, and he cannot say how
many hours he has ridden on those tractors. On a scale of from one to ten, if
his lawn mower was considered a ten, the go-kart that he rode would probably
be measured at a four. The go-karts in the photograph are the same as the
ones he has seen at Myrtle Beach, which do not have any mufflers, and they
sound like rockets. It is like comparing apples to oranges.
Mr. Straw responded that the go-kart in the photograph is a two person
go-kart. There are approximately five to ten of these go-karts, which are
designed for adults with small children. The other go-kart pictured in motion
is much closer to the ones at Mr. Wood's site. It is not the same as compar-
ing apples to oranges, because the issue relates to noise.
Mr. Marshall replied that this is what he is talking about. The two
experts disagree, and they both are trying to convince the Board, but they are
contradicting each other. He is of the opinion that he cannot believe either
one of them, so he has to believe himself.
Mr. Straw stated that he understands what Mr. Marshall is saying, and the
comments about the lawn mower and the single go-kart are very important. He
is not talking about a single go-kart. He is looking at aggregate noise.
Mr. Martin commented that the applicant's expert had included a worse
case scenario, with all 20 cars side by side. Mr. Straw answered that there
would not be a time when there are all 20 cars side by side. He said that all
20 cars side by side are not moving, and are not influenced by wind, tempera-
ture and humidity. The applicant's expert has done some nice guesswork, but
it is just extrapolation, based on formulas. He could do the same thing, but
the correct number has to be used in the beginning. By taking a test of an
engine under load, while the cart is moving and using the whole aggregate
noise, there will be a lesser number. He noted that it is not the same as
taking numbers such as 70 and 70 and adding them together to get 140, but he
indicated that this is the sort of thing that the other expert has used to
make his calculations. Mr. Straw went on to say that when these go-karts are
put into operation at Mr. Wood's site, with the closest residential property
only 60 feet away, there will be complaints, annoyances and most of all there
will be a violation of the County ordinance. This noise cannot be buffered.
Mr. Martin remarked that Mr. Straw is talking about the proposed apart-
ments. He asked what he has to say about the Raintree area. Mr. Straw
replied that with the prevailing winds and where some of the homes are
located, the sound would probably be approximately 65 decibels. He added,
though, that if the wind is blowing in the right direction, there will be a
violation. He will not tell the Board members that this will happen every
night, but he said that at this time of season, the wind is blowing generally
toward the area of Raintree, and there will be increased levels of noise. He
told the Board members that they should not think of this as one noise. It
has to be thought of as the aggregate noise that goes up and down until 1:30
a.m. He emphasized that it is not the same as running 20 cars side by side.
He said that it will be 20 cars that will accelerate and decelerate until 1:30
a.m., and he pointed out that the community quiets down significantly in the
evening.
There were no further questions for Mr. Straw, so, at 8:55 p.m., Mrs.
Humphris stated that the Board would take a five minute break.
At 9:02 p.m., the Board reconvened.
Mr. Ingram stated that he was not aware of any kind of proposed expansion
of the Putt-Putt Golf Course, and if his company had known of it, this
particular site for the apartments would not have been chosen. He mentioned a
statement by Mr. Tom McCrystal, who is one of the real estate agents who was
involved in this, and Mr. Ingram said Mr. McCrystal is a disinterested party.
He only had one copy of the statement, so he read it, as follows: "I, Thomas
McCrystal, do hereby swear and affirm that to the best of my recollection and
belief, L. F. Wood never discussed or disclosed any plan or intention of
placing an amusement park including without limitation a go-kart track
adjacent to or near the parcel purchased by Rio Hills Associates Limited
Partnership, hereafter RHA, prior to closing in November of 1993. Furthermore
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the first mention of any such plan or intention was not disclosed by Mr. Wood,
to my best information and belief, until months after this November closing
date. In fact, based on my understanding of RHA's development proposal, such
a use, that is an amusement park, would have been totally inconsistent with my
clients' development plans." Mr. Ingram submitted the statement to Mrs.
Humphris, and told her that it is his only copy.
Mr. Ingram said he was not making an idle statement. He assured the
Board of Supervisors that Rio Hills Associates Limited would not build on this
property if this proposal is passed because he does not feel that a multi-
million dollar project there can be marketed. He was touched by the young
people who came before the Board. This is a marvelous introduction to
government, and he thinks that what they have said is absolutely right. He
added that the County needs this type of entertainment, and an alternative.
The interest needs to be balanced for the need, and it is a desperate one
versus an appropriate place to have an amusement park. This BOard has been
offered an alternative, because Mr. Wood's former partner, until just a few
days ago, Todd Shields, has proposed a location which has the same things just
a few miles up Route 29, and it would probably serve more people. He said to
the young men and women who are looking for an alternative, that he hopes Mr.
Shields' proposal is approved. His experts have looked at Mr. Shields' site,
and they will testify to this Board as to how great the site is. He then
concluded his remarks by asking Board members if they can responsibly trade,
139 or perhaps as many as 300, additional affordable housing units for 20
go-karts.
Mrs. Humphris commented that the Board has asked her to move this matter
along. She said that the Board members have heard a lot of information
tonight, and they will continue to hear everybody who wants to speak. She
then asked the speakers not to be repetitious, because the Board would like to
get to its deliberations and decision making process.
Mr. Michael Schulte stated that he is a professor at the School of
Engineering, at the University of Virginia, and he has a Master's Degree in
acoustics. He told the Board about his background, and he mentioned this
because of the Board members' confusion that the expert's opinions were so
different. He understands that both gentlemen might have done their measure-
ments in good faith, but it is extremely difficult and unreliable to rely upon
one test. He agreed with the expert from Florida that weather conditions,
etc., have to be taken into consideration. He had heard the number of 62
decibels of sound discussed at the Planning Commission meeting, but he feels
that 75 decibels of sound would be more accurate. Both experts mentioned the
same number, but at different points, relative to this property. The great
difference is how noise is perceived. He mentioned that when a test is done
in a business type of environment, the sound will be much louder, and it is
surprising how the waves of sound affect people. He remarked that noise
pollution is the most difficult and expensive pollution to control, and once
it is there, it cannot be removed. It would take him months just to under-
stand what is going on, because it is not a point of source that is being
considered. Each activity at the site can be considered a source of noise,
and the location where measurements are taken is very important. He added
that on the basis of his best judgment, it would be a terrible source of
noise. He then made other points which he said that the other speakers have
not addressed. The letter from Mr. Wood indicated that the people would
rather live at the medium priced apartments than to drive from Greene County
to work every day. Mr. Schulte said this might be true. He came to this
country without a single penny, and he thinks that all citizens have to be
respected of all incomes, races and of foreign national backgrounds. He does
not think it is right to indicate that people with low or medium incomes will
be living there anyway, and other people do not care about them, and it is
better for them to live there and listen to this noise, than it is for them to
drive from Greene County. He disagrees with this attitude, according to all
he knows about acoustics, etc., he thinks that a park such as the one Mr. Wood
proposes will disturb the neighborhood, and that is his best judgment. He
said the supervisors will have to rely on their own judgments. He next
mentioned that one gentleman compared the park to a prison being put next door
to a neighborhood, and that nobody wanted a prison in their backyards. The
country cannot do without prisons, but it can do very well without go-karts.
It is really nice that the students have the attitude that they can come and
change the course of events by addressing the governing body. He encouraged
the students to use resources available to them to try to understand what is
occurring, and to try to form their own opinion. He concluded his remarks by
saying that if this use is allowed on the site, there will not only be a
dispute about it at this time, but it will carry over into the future.
Mr. Rick Johnson, Secretary of the Raintree Homeowners Association, and
owner of one of the houses which will be the most directly affected by the
noise, stated that as he listened tonight, it seemed to him that there was a
confusion of facts, one of which is noise. In reality often on Friday and
Saturday nights, he can hear the people at the Putt-Putt Golf Course through
the woods. To say this is a quiet area and that no noise will come through
the woods is not true. He does not know how the sound gets there, because he
is not an expert, but he does hear the noise from his driveway at night. He
addressed a comment to Mr. Marshall by saying that the noise from one lawn
mower is fine, but 20 lawn mowers over the crown of a hill at 1:30 a.m. would
disturb him (Mr. Marshall), and that is what has to be taken as an aggregate,
conclusive measurement. He had thought the Commission advocated buffers of
quiet type retail and office buildings between residential properties and
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commercial and highway properties. This proposed use is exactly the opposite
of a buffer. The office buildings, to which the petitioner referred, are
there to serve as a buffer between Route 29 and the first group of houses, as
well as a church which is located in the area. There is a valley and the
noise goes through the valley. He next gave definitions of different nuisanc-
es, which he said came from Black's Law Dictionary, and he pointed out that
the noises that would be generated if this application is approved would
clearly fit these definitions. He then mentioned the cost of buffers, and he
brought out the fact that the buffer for this project would not be a six foot
fence at the edge of the property. It would have to be a major buffer, and a
big investment, to keep the noise down, and he does not see this on the plan.
If this is the way the plan is proposed and accepted, the petitioner can
simply say that he does not have to do it, because it is not on the plan. He
next stated that the petitioner continually asks to be a good neighbor, and he
thinks this is terrific. He likes the Putt-Putt Golf Course, and would have
probably supported the application if it was expanding to 36 holes. As a good
neighbor, Mr. Johnson said that he does not make drilling and circular saw
noises late at night to affect everybody around him. This is exactly what
will happen, if this application is approved.
Ms. Nan Jefferson stated that she is a life-time resident of the Charlot-
tesville-Albemarle County area. She has lived all of her 43 years in this
area, and has played Putt-Putt golf since she was 15 years old. She left her
own children there, who are now teenagers, for hours at a time while she
has gone shopping, because teenagers do not like to go shopping with their
parents. She is a 13 year member of a local rescue squad and fire department.
There is nothing more serious than picking up teenagers who are out on county
roads joy riding, and who have flipped a vehicle going 55 miles an hour or
more. It is terrible to have to do CPR on a child who is already dead. She
stated that a park such as the one proposed is needed in this area for
families. A good wholesome environment is needed for them. She has constant-
ly heard complaints tonight about crime. She lives next door to a State
police officer, and her home has been burglarized. There is not a person in
this room who is immune to crime. If these speakers think that living in a
certain area and limiting activities will prevent crime, it does not. She
implored the Board members to take into consideration that the proposed park
is not just for a few people in a certain area. She emphasized that it will
benefit the complete county.
Mr. Randy Jones remarked that he has petitions with 450 names in favor of
this project, and he gave them to the Clerk. There has been a lot of discus-
sion tonight about the park staying open until 1:00 a.m. or 2:00 a.m. He
pointed out that Mr. Wood's normal hours of operation with the Putt-Putt Golf
Course has been from 9:00 a.m. until 12:00 midnight. It is his understanding
that these will be the enforced hours of operation. Mr. Wood lives down the
road from this operation, and he has lived at the same place for many years.
He feels confident that Mr. Wood will not let things get out of hand. He
added that people are concerned about loitering and unruly crowds, but he said
that he thinks if people consider the Putt-Putt Driving Range's history over
the years, there has been no trouble there. He, personally, does not expect
there will ever be trouble at that site. Mr. Wood takes pride in the fact
that he has operated this business for a number of years, and it is family
owned. It needs to be considered that this is not something that Mr. Wood has
decided to do on the spur of the moment. Mr. Wood has given the project
careful consideration, because he is also a neighbor to this site. He added
that Mr. Wood is actively involved in this project, and he is not located in
another county or city. The Putt-Putt Golf Course is a national organization,
and it is a quality organization, which has been around a long time. This
organization tries to do things right and tries to fit into the community. He
is not an expert on sound, but he hopes that Mr. Wood's expert will be given a
chance to rebut some of these items which have come up, because he thinks this
is only fair. He recalled Mr. Marshall's comments about comparing apples to
oranges, and he agreed that it looks as though there is conflicting data.
That is why the first party needs to respond to some of the comments which
were made by the second sound expert. He hopes the Board will consider this
matter, and he said that he would look forward to participating in this sort
of recreational activity.
Ms. Rebecca Adams announced that she really did not come to this meeting
to speak, but she felt, now, that there were a few things she needs to share
with everybody. She would not reiterate everything that has been said with
regard to the noise, but she pointed out two things. First, in the absence of
absolute conclusive data about what is going to happen at the Putt-Putt site
relating to noise, she would rather for the Board to take into consideration a
real test and the data generated from this test, versus an experiment which
would try to simulate what might happen and then extrapolate the results.
Secondly, she mentioned a letter which was written from a person in Texas who
said that the go-kart could not be heard. She noted that, generally, she
expects the people in that apartment complex keep their windows closed at
night. One of the things that she likes about living in Charlottesville and
Central Virginia is the wonderful temperate climate that is here, and it is
her pleasure to live in a place where she can keep the windows open most of
the spring and summer months. She does not use the air conditioning in her
home, unless there is a significant heat wave. She would not be happy if she
had to close her windows after dark when the noise levels begin to increase.
She concluded her comments by noting what really happens at Raintree. She
recalled the last eclipse, and she mentioned that she lives on a cul-de-sac.
Most of Raintree is located on cul-de-sacs, and whenever there is a meteor or
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an eclipse, the neighbors come out with the children who are old enough to
stay up that late, and they sit in their lawn chairs at the end of the
cul-de-sacs, and watch the eclipse or meteor shower. It is a wonderful
neighborhood community buildin9 activity, and she would hate to see the light
pollution, the noise and all of the other distractions take away from the
charm and appeal that the Raintree Subdivision provides to its residents.
Ms. Nancy Pugh remarked that she also lives in the Raintree Subdivision,
and her home will be approximately 700 feet from the proposed development.
She does not understand all of the acoustical engineering data, but, from a
common sense standpoint, she knows that when she is in her back yard, she can
hear a single truck engine on Route 29, which is 3,000 feet from her home.
She mentioned that this winter, when the weather was bad, she could hear
groups of five or six children shouting at the Putt-Putt Driving Range. If
there were ten go-karts, nine batting cages, bumper boats and a lot of people
shouting, she has a hard time understanding how she would not hear the noise,
when it would be even closer. She then mentioned the earlier comparison which
was made to a lawn mower, but she pointed out that a lawn mower might run once
a week for an hour. The proposed activity would be for seven days a week for
the long hours that were mentioned. She wanted to respect the other concerns
which people have voiced, but she thinks there are other options, and this
type of facility could be placed elsewhere in the County where it would not be
adjacent to so many homes and planned apartments. There are other uses, in
terms of developing this land, which would be much more consistent with the
County's long range plans, such as office service. This would provide a
natural progression from commercial highways into residential areas, as
compared to a use such as the one proposed, which would be an abrupt conflict.
As a homeowner, she does not know what else she can do besides live in her
home or sell it, and if it becomes unpleasant to live in and very difficult to
sell because of this proposed amusement park, she does not have many other
options as far as what can be done with the property.
Mr. Don Wagner, of Great Eastern Management Company, read a prepared
statement in which he stated that he was representing the Encore Investors
Limited Partnership which owns three parcels of land totaling a little more
than 11 acres between the Putt-Putt Driving Range and Raintree. The Partner-
ship members have no objection to Mr. Wood's plans if they can secure approval
for compatible commercial zoning adjacent to his land. He then referred to
the second paragraph on Page Four of the Backstage sound report, where it
speaks to sound attenuation in the wooded area to the east of the site, but
does not mention that the trees are on Encore's site. Encore's plans will
include buildings, which might well be more effective sound barriers than the
existing trees, but he wanted to avoid any misunderstandings. A wide undis-
turbed area adjacent to the Raintree Subdivision would be left, but most of
the trees close to the Putt-Putt Driving Range would be lost. He also
mentioned that the staff report speaks of screening between the site and
adjacent residential property. He said the BZA recently granted Mr. Wood
relief from setback requirements from the residential portion of the Encore
property, partly because it assumed the Encore property would be put to
commercial use. Assuming that Encore's request for compatible zoning adjacent
to the Putt-Putt Golf Course is approved, the Partnership will not want heavy
screening along the property line. This portion of the Encore property is
currently visible from Rio Road, and if the Putt-Putt expansion is approved,
it will probably stay visible for a long time into the future. (See Mr. Don
Wagner's comments for Board of Supervisors meeting dated April 14, 1994.)
Mrs. Thomas asked Mr. Wagner if he is saying that he does not want
screening along the property line. Mr. Wagner replied that, presently, the
line between the Encore Property and Mr. Wood's property is commercial back to
a certain point, and, past that point, it is currently zoned residential. He
explained that under the Zoning Ordinance, Mr. Wood would have been required
to set back 50 feet from the residential portion of that line. The BZA
granted a waiver to that on the basis that this land was in the Comprehensive
Plan for commercial use, it would be developed for commercial use, and,
therefore, the setback was not necessary. Once past Fashion Square, the
property line becomes visible, so any commercial building that would be built
there could be seen from Rio Road. He would hate for screening to hide these
buildings from Rio Road, and if he is successful in his bid for rezoning of
the property, he does not want a lot of screening at the property line.
Mr. Marshall asked Mr. Wagner what he is going to build on the property
that he just mentioned. Mr. Wagner answered that his Partnership is working
on a plan to request rezoning for that property of either C-1 or PDSC. He has
already started working on this plan with staff.
Mr. Marshall asked how tall are the buildings, which are proposed for
that site. Mr. Wagner replied that he is uncertain, at this point. He
mentioned that, several years ago, when the Northside Library people were
looking for a site, there was an attempt to put the library there. He said
some plans were developed, and his Partnership worked with the members of
the Raintree Board, at that time. The general idea then was to have the
windows in the walls of the buildings which back up to the Raintree Subdivi-
sion looking out toward the Raintree Subdivision, with parking behind them, so
that between Raintree and the remainder of the site, there would be screening
by buildings and parking areas.
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Mr. Marshall asked again, if Mr. Wagner knew how tall the buildings were
proposed to be. Mr. Wagner replied that there would certainly be the possi-
bility of some two story office type buildings.
Mr. Ernest Pugh, a resident of the Raintree Subdivision, commented that
the batting cages have not been discussed much tonight. From talking to
people who have been around batting cages, it seems that the cages are very
loud and irritating. He recalled that when he went to a major league baseball
game years ago, and sat 400 feet away from home plate, he could distinctly
hear every person who batted. Raintree is 700 feet away from the proposed
facility, and instead of this happening every minute or two, it will happen in
a batting cage every four to six seconds in an irregular pattern. This
reminds him of a popcorn popper, and it is not needed in his development.
Secondly, he mentioned that the car dealerships on Route 29 sometimes have
loud speakers, and these are heard in his development. The loud speakers are
approximately five times farther away than the proposed park.' There would
have to be a loud speaker used with go-karts, so it would be heard distinctly,
and regularly, and it would be irritating. He then recalled what Mr. Wood
said in September about go-karts being trendy, and that they could be here
today and gone five years from now. Once this land is rezoned from residen-
tial use, it is gone forever.
Rev. Louis Boyd commented that he is a husband and father who lives in
the area, and he is a minister at one of the local churches. He has done
youth ministry with teenagers for 20 years, and has spent a lot of time
around town, some of it good and some of it not so good, but he has enjoyed
it. He has found, in working with the Woods, that they are attached to
families, and the families have needs as well as teenagers. The days are gone
when families sat around the radio and listened to The Lone Ranger, and he
went on to say that this is not family recreation, anymore. Families now want
to go somewhere and be entertained or entertain themselves in some way. Mr.
Wood's facility is that sort of thing, and although it will not be a "fix-
all," it will be a good start. He disagreed with the two gentlemen who spoke
on behalf of the Raintree Subdivision using the term, "teenager" as though it
was some sort of deviant. His youth group just had 32 children who stood up
in front of the church, one at a time in front of God and their peers, and
vowed sexual abstinence until marriage, these children are also looking for a
place to go and something to do. These children are likened to the ones who
spoke earlier and asked for somewhere to go and something to do. He is glad
to have someone in the community who has the vision to get something done for
families and teenagers. The location of the park has been discussed. He
appreciated the Board members for listening to all of these comments. He
added that they have heard reports on sound, etc., but he feels that if the
location is a problem in terms of sound, then it should be closed down. From
what he has heard, one expert says it is okay, and one says it is not. These
things can be determined, and if Mr. Wood breaks the law, then the place
should be closed. The families should not be penalized in the community for
the fact that all of the correct information is not available. Mr. Wood will
probably make a fortune with this business, and that does not bother him at
all. In fact, Mr. Wood will probably make more money in a year from this
business then he (Rev. Boyd) will in two or three years. The reason that Mr.
Wood will make the money is because this amusement park will be popular
because people are looking for something to do just like this. The location
is prime, because it is in the middle of everything. As stated earlier, Rev.
Boyd pointed out that there are all types of businesses in that general area,
and it is a good, central location. He hopes the Board members' decision is
not based on the number of people at this meeting speaking for or against the
request, because this does not represent the entire County. He added that it
represents the community which is near the facility. He agreed, however, that
these are the supervisors' constituents. He would rather have the facility
closer to Hollymead. He hopes the supervisors' decision is based on facts and
what they have seen. They have seen and heard the go-kart, and he encouraged
the supervisors to get other facts, if they are needed, and make the determi-
nation from this information.
Mr. George Payne spoke next, and he said that he lives on Old Brook Road
in the Raintree Subdivision. He has visited the facility in Dallas, and it is
in the middle of a light industrial section. One side of the facility is
bordered by a railroad track switching yard, and an interstate highway, which
is highly traveled. There are no residential communities anywhere near that
facility, and it is perfectly located for what it does. He did not have the
opportunity to test the go-kart at Mr. Wood's site, himself, but he expects
that it is probably new and shipped in for this purpose, and probably well
tuned at this point in time. He pointed out that as the car is used, it will
be in disrepair, and will probably get louder as time goes by. As far as the
ambient noise levels are concerned, one was measured at 39.9 decibels, and
another one was measured at 54 decibels. He suggested the ambient noise at
1:30 a.m. now is much less than either of those figures, and it will not be if
this facility is approved. Next, he remarked that bumper boats may have
smaller engines with two stroke motors as opposed to four stroke motors, but
he expects that they are not muffled nearly as well as the engines which would
be on the four stroke Honda go-karts. The bumper boats may produce as much
noise as the go-karts. He then talked about the woods to the east of the
property, to which Mr. Wagner referred, and Mr. Payne emphasized that these
woods are not owned by Mr. Wood. These woods do not come under Mr. Wood's
control, and there would be no regulation as to whether or not the woods will
be there in the future, so they should not be considered as a barrier to the
sound. He agrees with Rev. Boyd that the Charlottesville/Albemarle community
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would greatly benefit by a facility of this nature, and he thinks that Rev.
Boyd's idea that he would not mind having it near his community of Hollymead
where the other Putt-Putt Golf Range is proposed would be wonderful.
Mr. Jonathan Williams remarked that he would like to speak for the people
under age 21. He said the County police come around the parking lots and
there are children in the parking lots who want to sit and talk. These
children might not have $5.00 to go to the movies, plus they cannot talk in
the movies. He asked what are the children going to do if the police are
covering every parking lot. The people representing the apartment complex
will be making their thousands every month, but they do not care anything
about the children, which are the future. He asked if the children do not
have fun now, what will they do later. Sometimes all the children have to do
is get involved with drugs. There are policemen on the radio telling parents
that they should know what their children are doing, because they might get
into drugs. He asked what else is there to do in Charlottesville, except to
ride up and down the roads, and drag race in the country. He went on to say
that Mr. Wood wants to build something for the children that will not cost the
State anything. It will be Mr. Wood's money, and Mr. Williams wondered what
is the big deal. If the people in Raintree want privacy, why do they not live
in the country. It has been said that in ten years, that area will be in the
middle of Charlottesville, and he asked how there will be privacy for Raintree
residents then.
Mr. Kenny Mellis, Regional Manager for Liberty Construction Company,
mentioned that he talked to Mr. Wagner on the telephone approximately a month
ago, and Mr. Wagner's comment was that he would go along with this proposed
change, if he could also have his property rezoned. He added that Mr. Wagner
said if this request is not approved, and he has to keep this property in
office use, as it is now, then he wanted no part of it. Mr. Wagner did not
actually say that at this point, but he pointed out that the Encore represen-
tatives are already asking for a zoning change, and he wonders where it will
all stop.
Mrs. Humphris announced that she needed to find out from the other Board
members how much more they are prepared to listen to. The supervisors can
obviously not stay here all night to allow everybody a rebuttal. Mr. Carter
asked, in the beginning for a chance for rebuttal at the end of the speakers.
She thinks three minutes should be enough time for him to make his remarks.
Mr. Carter remarked that everybody has been mentioning the 1:30 a.m.
time, and they seem to think it is extreme. It is only during June, July and
August that the place is open later. Usually, on weekends, the place is
closed at midnight. The applicant is subject to any reasonable rules that
this Board wants to impose, but the 1:30 a.m. closing time is not considered
to be a problem, because there is not going to be anybody at the site at 1:30
a.m. on Thursday nights, even in the middle of the summer. He then referred
to Mr. Wood's words which were quoted from the previous Board of Supervisors
meeting. Mr. Wood's words referred to a rezoning, and this is not a rezoning
request. Mr. Wood identified himself as speaking on behalf of some of the
concerned parents at the Agnor-Hurt School. There is nothing that prevents
people from reevaluating situations, and he noted that Mr. Wood's comments
were made about a different matter at a different time. He believes the
record will reflect that the Fieldbrook Subdivision had only eight responses
to its call, relating to this matter. He emphasized that this is a family
business and it is something that is needed. Mr. Wood's site is the place to
put it, because it will never be put somewhere that will please everybody.
This reminds him of what Mr. Bowie used to say when he was Chairman of the
Board of Supervisors, which was, "Don't ever buy a view." He thinks this is
exactly what the developer should have thought about when he bought this
property because he knew what he was getting himself into.
At this time, Mrs. Humphris closed the public hearing.
Mr. Bowerman stated that the Board has heard a lot of comments for and
against the application, and he appreciates the fact that the comments which
were made were orderly. He has listened to everything, and he has tried to
keep an open mind. Based on what he has heard, it seems, at the very best,
there is the potential for significant nuisance. Whether or not there is a
nuisance, would depend upon the number of people who use the facility, the
wind direction, the atmospheric conditions and the children and parents who
are at the facility. There has to be an overwhelming public benefit from
having a use such as this one, where there is a potential problem with an
established neighborhood and with a planned apartment complex immediately
adjacent to it. He agrees that one of these establishments needs to be
located in the community, but he does not agree that it should be in this
location. It is for this reason that he will not support the application.
Mr. Bowerman then offered motion to deny SP-93-34.
Mr. Marshall asked if Mr. Bowerman would be in favor of the application,
if the go-kart track was removed from the project. Mr. Bowerman replied that
he had thought about this possibility, but he believes the batting cages could
be possibly more of a nuisance than the go-karts. The crack of a bat on a
hard ball, whether the bat is aluminum or wood, can be quite extreme, and the
sound carries very well. With six batting cages, Mr. Bowerman believes there
is a lot of potential for a lot of noise. It is a great activity, but he does
not think that it is an activity that should be adjacent to residential
neighborhoods. He sees the total use as being a nuisance, and it is not just
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one thing in particular that keeps him from supporting this application, and
he pointed out that it is the combination of activities that is proposed. He
is also concerned about the location of the facility. He reiterated that he
would support something like this in another location, and he said that if it
would not impact residential communities, it would be ideal.
Mrs. Thomas stated that she would like some discussion with the staff
about the noise ordinance. She said if this facility cannot comply with the
standards of the noise ordinance, if it is a substantive noise ordinance, then
the question is moot, because if they cannot comply, then they cannot proceed
with the operation. She had understood that the noise ordinance would require
a 40 decibel limit at some point, but she believes now that it requires a 65
decibel limit. Mr. Bowerman responded that the ordinance requirements change
according to the time of day or night. Mr. Cilimberg commented that 40
decibels is in the ordinance for recreational facilities such as swim and
tennis clubs. The 40 decibel analysis is used to try to determine what kinds
of screening or buffering would need to be provided to reduce noise limits at
property lines. The 40 decibel limit is not applicable to this application.
Mrs. Humphris informed the other Board members that Mr. Bowerman has
reminded her that the motion either has to be addressed or abandoned. She
said there should be a second, if there is going to be one, before the
discussion.
Mr. Martin remarked that he would have seconded the motion, but he is
going to vote against it.
Mr. Bowerman stated that it makes no difference if a Board member
proposes a motion or seconds it, as to whether or not he or she supports it.
Mr. Martin commented that it is stated in the Board of Supervisors' Rules
of Procedure, unless the supervisors vote to suspend their rules, that a
supervisor cannot second or propose a motion and then vote against it. He
added, however, that the motion can die, and the discussion can continue.
Mrs. Humphris said the motion has died for lack of a second.
Mrs. Thomas asked if the noise ordinance limits the noise before the
evening hours. Mr. Bowling responded that the noise ordinance only limits the
noise between 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m., as it is currently written.
Mrs. Thomas stated that, because of the way the noise ordinance is
written, it does not allow her to do what she was thinking of doing. She was
also influenced by the suggestion of the applicant's neighbor that there not
be fencing on the east side. The east side is exactly the side that should be
buffered in order to keep Raintree Subdivision from being impacted, although
it is to the north that will have the closest residences. She had thought
that noise meter readings could be required on the other side of the property
line all day long. She asked if this can be required.
Mr. Cilimberg replied that this Board can put conditions on the special
use permit. The conditions could cover whatever decibel reading over whatever
period that the supervisors would like to enforce. Mr. Bowling mentioned that
there has to be some basis for reasonableness.
Mr. Bowerman suggested that the application of the noise ordinance to
buffer a potential use is probably a last resort, and, therefore, he would
think that a use which contemplated the existence of a noise ordinance to make
it satisfactory is probably not undertaken in the correct way.
Mr. Martin stated that there could be a requirement that the decibels
remain under a certain level, and if there are complaints, then they would be
investigated to see if the complaints are founded or unfounded.
Mr. Marshall commented that the Board has done this before at Boar's Head
Inn. Mr. Bowerman concurred. He asked Mr. Bowling how difficult it is to
enforce the noise ordinance. Mr. Bowling answered that it would be difficult.
Mr. Bowerman stated that if the noise exists, complaints are made, the
police take action and it is a repetitive problem. He said the courts will
not likely remove a special permit because of a noise violation. He added
that if this is a significant concern, and the supervisors have to be satis-
fied with the application of the noise ordinance to try to buffer the use,
then he has doubts about the approval of this application. Once the com-
plaints have been made, the problem exists. If there is a potential for this
problem, with the approval of this application, then he does not support it.
Mr. Martin inquired that if there is a condition of a special use permit
that is being violated, can the special use permit be revoked. Mr. Bowerman
replied that the special use permit can be revoked by this Board, but he does
not think it can be revoked by the courts, without exceptional circumstances.
Mr. Martin stated that he was not suggesting the special use permit be revoked
by the courts.
Mrs. Humphris pointed out that a situation such as Mr. Martin is suggest-
ing will put everybody in a terrible position. Once the applicant has
invested a large amount of money, and the amusement park is in place, and then
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complaints occur, it is too late. She asked will this Board then shut the
business down, and cause him to lose all of that investment.
Mr. Martin responded that he is not arguing either way. He is unsure, at
this moment, which way he would vote on the motion. He added, though, that
the applicant would be taking that risk, himself, if he puts capital into the
business.
Mrs. Humphris stated that there would be lots of people coming before
this Board saying it is such a great thing for families, and that this Board
cannot shut the business down. She is going to state her position because she
has some strong feelings. She asked Mr. Wood when she met with him to tell
her everything that he could to enlighten her about the situation. If she had
a choice of where to live and one of her choices was in an apartment next to
this recreational area, she would choose to live somewhere else. She thinks
it is important that the high density zoning be maintained in that area. She
will not respond to the threat that she heard tonight, and if anybody knows
her, they know that she does not threaten very easily. It is important to the
County to maintain high density residential zoning in this urban growth area.
She agreed with Mr. Bowerman that the potential nuisance is great with the
noise from the go-karts, the boats, the crack of the bats and the yelling
of the people. She knows how sound travels in her own neighborhood, and how
far across the lake, etc., she can hear people when they have a party in the
neighborhood. She would not wish it on anybody else's neighborhood. She
concurs that there would have to be some overwhelming public need to cause
this Board to put this recreational facility in this particular area next to a
high density residential area. She cannot support doing that.
At 10:03 p.m., Mr. Bowerman moved for denial of SP-93-34 for Putt-Putt
Golf and Games. Mrs. Thomas seconded the motion. Roll was called and the
motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman and Mrs. Humphris.
Mr. Marshall.
Mr. Perkins.
(Mr. Marshall left the meeting after the vote).
There was some informal discussion among Board members and Mr. Bowling
about whether or not a Board member can make or second a motion, and then vote
against it. Mrs. Humphris asked that a ruling be provided on this matter.
Agenda Item No. 9. SP-92-27. Stamm Family Land Trust. Public Hearing
on a request for an extension of the time period of approval for SP-92-27
which authorized a stream crossing in the flood plain of Muddy Run & Buck
Mountain Creek. Property on N sd of Rt 687 approx 0.75 mi W of Rt 601.
TM7,P29A. White Hall Dist. (Advertised in the Daily Progress on March 28 and
April 4, 1994.)
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Planning Commission, at its
meeting on March 15, 1994, unanimously recommended approval of SP-92-27
subject to three conditions.
Mrs. Humphris opened the public hearing, and asked Mr. Kurt Gloeckner,
representing the Stamm family, if he wished to speak.
Mr. Gloeckner commented that the Stamms still live in England, but they
plan to return some time soon. He asked the Board to approve the stream
crossing in the flood plain of Muddy Run and Buck Mountain Creek.
No one else came forward to speak, so Mrs. Humphris closed the public
hearing.
Motion was offered by Mr. Martin, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, to approve
SP-92-27 with the conditions recommended by the Planning Commission:
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This approval shall allow construction of only one of the two
options outlined in this report;
A building permit to construct a crossing shall not be issued
until the following conditions are met:
a. Department of Engineering final approval;
Water Resources Manager approval of water quality impact
assessment plan; ,.
Compliance with all federal, state and local requirements
pertaining to a perennial stream;
Department of Engineering issuance of an Erosion Control
Permit (Grading Permit);
3. Approval of this permit shall expire January 1, 1997.
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Roll was called on the foregoing motion which carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman and Mrs. Humphris.
NAYS; None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins and Mr. Marshall.
Agenda Item No. 10. SP-94-01. Allen & Edna Dunbar. Public Hearing on
a request for additional development rights on 4.1 ac zoned RA. Property on
pvt rd 0.4 mi W of Old Lynchburg Rd approx 1.1 mi S of inters with Dudley Mtn
Rd. TM89,P52. Samuel Miller Dist. (Advertised in the Daily Progress on March
28 and April 4, 1994.)
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Planning Commission, at its
meeting on March 15, 1994, sent the above-noted request to the Board, with no
recommendation. The Commission failed to make a recommendation due to a tie
vote.
There were no comments from Board members to Mr. Cilimberg, so Mrs.
Humphris opened the public hearing.
(Mr. Marshall returned to the meeting at 10:08 p.m.)
Mr. Dunbar stated that he has two acres that he can give to one of his
sons, and this will leave him and his wife the two and one-half acres on which
they currently live. He has already given his daughter two acres of land, and
his younger son will eventually get the property on which he and his wife live
now. He is going to try to pay the oldest son the cost of the land so that
all of his children will be treated the same.
Mr. Kevin Cox remarked that he is present to support Mr. Dunbar in his
request, as he was at the previous meeting when Mr. Dunbar asked for the other
division right. Mr. Dunbar has four acres left, which he wants to cut in half
and give two acres to his son. This is the only way that Mr. Dunbar's son can
afford to get a home on a single lot, where they can have a yard for their
two small children. He emphasized that this is the only way that these people
can build a home in Albemarle County. He said they looked for lots, but
everything was completely out of their price range. This situation is
identical to what happened before, and it was said before that if there was a
similar request, it would be approved. This is a similar request, and he
pointed out that the Dunbars paid $995 to apply for this permit, which is
nonrefundable. He understands that the permit fee is intended to recover 100
percent of processing the permit. In this case, the staff used the staff
report from the previous special use permit, and it is obvious that the staff
did not have to do as much work. However, the fee is the same, and he thinks
the Board should consider refunding some of this money. He added that it is a
considerable amount of money and these people do not have a lot of money. In
principle, he thinks it would only be right to take this into consideration.
He certainly hopes the Board will approve this application.
No one else wanted to speak concerning this application, so Mrs. Humphris
closed the public hearing.
Motion was offered by Mrs. Thomas, seconded by Mr. Martin, to approve
SP-94-01 subject to one condition reading: "Staff approval of subdivision
plat."
Mrs. Thomas stated that she has been out to the site, and it is truly
affordable housing and it is not desirable or usable for other uses. She added
that it is not in a commercial subdivision or watershed area. There are deed
restrictions for family use.
Mrs. Humphris said that she did not understand the deed restriction, and
she asked Mr. Cilimberg to explain it. Mr. Cilimberg replied the staff
understands that the deed restriction pertains to family members, and he said
there was a statement made in the Commission meeting about having this
restriction removed. He added, however, that the deed restriction was not
part of the staff's consideration and review, other than providing it as
additional information. Mr. Dunbar might be able to speak to this matter. He
also noted that it is a 20 year restriction.
There were no other comments.
Roll was then called on the foregoing motion carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES:
NAYS;
ABSENT:
Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
None.
Mr. Perkins.
Agenda Item No. 11. SP-94-04. B&B Partnership. Public Hearing on a
request to permit outdoor storage & display of vehicles within the EC Dis-
trict. Property W of Brady Bushey Ford on Rt 250 E. TM78,P6. Rivanna Dist.
(Advertised in the Daily Progress on March 28 and April 4, 1994.)
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Mr. Cilimberg summarized the staff's report which is on file with the
permanent records of the Board. He noted that the Planning Commission, at its
meeting on March 15, 1994, unanimously recommended approval of SP-94-04
subject to three conditions.
Mrs. Humphris noted that there is not an overall picture of how the
final business will look. Mr. Cilimberg responded that there is nothing in
the existing area that the applicant is proposing to do that is of any
consequence within the site plan. He noted that the site plan is applicable
to the new area where the business will be expanding, which currently holds
two dwellings and an old hotel.
Mrs. Humphris next wondered if all of the buildings will remain the same
on the original site. Mr. Cilimberg replied that he understands the
buildings on the original site will remain the same.
Mrs. Humphris stated that she is questioning this because she cannot see
the total picture, and she is concerned about the entrances. She asked how
many total entrances will there be and how close together will they be,
when the business has expanded. Mr. Cilimberg replied that the business will
have the same number of entrances which currently exist along the entire
frontage. He noted that there are already three entrances there. There is an
entrance into the old hotel.
Mrs. Humphris asked if anyone commented at the Commission meeting about
the number of entrances. Mr. Cilimberg responded that there were comments
about combining two entrances rather than having a separate entrance. He
added that the applicant responded by saying the Brady-Bushey dealership
wanted to keep some separation to the activities, so they did not want to have
the only entrance for the activities through a common access point. He said
the other site can be reached by going through a customer parking lot. He
noted, too, that the entrance already exists, so the County officials cannot
require the entrance be closed. If the applicant was establishing a new
entrance, the staff would not recommend approval.
Mrs. Humphris inquired if Mr. Cilimberg is saying that the applicant is
allowed to keep all of the existing entrances. Mr. Cilimberg answered that
the applicant can keep all three of the existing entrances, if he so chooses.
Mrs. Humphris opened the public hearing.
Mr. Bryan Smith, representing the applicant, stated that there was
minimal discussion about the entrances at the Commission meeting. His
response to the Commission members was that this property is not going
to be combined into one parcel. It will remain as two parcels, and it is
owned by two separate entities. It is hoped that the flexibility of the
separate entrances can be retained, because the property may be sold in the
future, or it might be used for another dealership, such as the jeep dealer-
ship.
Mr. Marshall asked if three of the four buildings would be removed. Mr.
Smith replied affirmatively. He said that one building would remain for the
night watchman and caretaker, because he will continue to live there. With
regard to any changes to the existing Brady-Bushey dealership, Mr. Smith
stated that the used car dealership salesmen's offices will be removed, and
the operation will be located more centrally to both sides, but it will be put
on the parcel that the applicant is developing. He knows of no other
changes on the existing Brady-Bushey Ford property.
There were no further questions for Mr. Smith.
Motion was then offered by Mr. Martin, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, to
approve SP-94-04 with the following three conditions recommended by the
Planning Commission:
Use shall not commence until a Certificate of Appropriateness is
issued by the Architectural Review Board;
Development shall be in general accord with site plan titled
Brady-Bushey Ford dated November 5, 1993, revised February 10,
1994;
3. Administrative approval of the site plan for this use.
Mrs. Humphris stated that she has a concern relating to three entrances
along that very busy short stretch of road. She asked if there is anything
this Board can do about that. She asked if the three entrances have to
be allowed. Mr. Cilimberg replied that the special use permit is specific as
to entrance corridor considerations, so he does not think this Board could
require closing that entrance. If the entrance is closed, it would mean that
the only entrance to the property that is subject to the special use permit
was being closed. Mr. Bowling concurred.
Mrs. Thomas noted that the Commission also made comment about the height
of the sign, even though the Sign Ordinance would allow it to be a certain
height. She mentioned that since the business is on a hill, it could make the
sign very high. She shares this concern, even though there is nothing that
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this Board can require. Mr. Cilimberg responded that he believes the allow-
ance for sign heights now in the ordinance is a 20 foot maximum height.
Roll was then called on the foregoing motion which carried by the
following recorded vote:
AYES:
NAYS;
ABSENT:
Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
None.
Mr. Perkins.
Agenda Item No. 12. Approval of the 1994-95 County Operating Budget.
Motion was offered by Mr. Martin, seconded by Mr. Bowerman, to adopt the
following resolution:
BE IT RESOLVED by the Board of County Supervisors of Albe-
marle County, Virginia, that the operations budget for the County
for the Fiscal Year beginning July 1, 1994, be approved as fol-
lows:
General Government Administration
Judicial
Public Safety
Public Works
Human Development
Parks, Recreation and Culture
Community Development
County/City Revenue Sharing
Refunds
Capital Improvements
Education - Operations
Education - Self-Sustaining Funds
Education - Debt Service
Contingency Reserve
$ 4,292,536
1,439,322
7,560,671
1,967,208
4,688,133
2,680,923
2,012,826
4,475,120
51,000
1,360,000
60,721,862
5,245,000
6,845,880
25,790
TOTAL $ 103,366,271
Roll was called on the foregoing motion which carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS; None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins.
Agenda Item No. 13. Set tax rates for 1994.
Motion was offered by Mr. Martin, seconded by Mrs. Thomas, to adopt the
following resolution setting the tax levy for calendar year 1994:
BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle
County, Virginia, does hereby set the County Levy for the taxable
year 1994 for General County purposes at Seventy-Two Cents ($0.72)
on every One Hundred Dollars worth of real estate; at Four Dollars
and Twenty-Eight Cents ($4.28) on every One Hundred Dollars worth
of assessed value of personal property; at Four Dollars and
Twenty-Eight Cents ($4.28) on every One Hundred Dollars worth of
assessed value of machinery and tools; and at Seventy-Two Cents
($0.72) on every One Hundred Dollars worth of assessed value of
public service assessments; and
FURTHER orders that the Director of Finance of Albemarle
County assess and collect on all taxable real estate and all
taxable personal property, including machinery and tools not
assessed as real estate, used or employed in a manufacturing
business, not taxable by the State on Capital; including Public
Service Corporation property except the rolling stock of railroads
based upon the assessment fixed by the State Corporation Commis-
sion and certified by it to the Board of Supervisors both as to
location and valuation; and including all boats and watercraft
under five tons as set forth in the Code of Virginia; and vehicles
used as mobile homes or offices as set forth in the Virginia Code;
except farm machinery, farm tools, farm livestock, and household
goods as set forth in the Code of Virginia, Section 58.1-3500
through Section 58.1-3508.
Roll was called on the foregoing motion which carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS; None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins.
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Agenda Item No. 14. Approval of Minutes: March 25, June 17 and October
7, 1992; March 17 and December 1, 1993; March 2, March 14(A), March 16(N),
March 21(A) and March 23(A), 1994.
Mrs. Thomas had read March 14 (A), 1994, and found them to be in order.
Mrs. Humphris had read March 16 (N), 1994 and turned in a list of typos.
She had also read March 21 (A), 1994, and March 23 (A), 1994, and found them
to be in order.
Motion was offered by Mr. Bowerman, seconded by Mr. Marshall, to approve
minutes which had been read. Roll was called on the foregoing motion which
carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Martin, Mrs. Thomas, Mr. Bowerman, Mrs. Humphris and Mr. Marshall.
NAYS; None.
ABSENT: Mr. Perkins.
Agenda Item No. 15. Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the
BO~kRD.
Mr. Tucker handed out a list of responses to budget comments from
citizens. He said that a detailed explanation of compensation issues will be
forwarded to Martha Harris. He noted that he had also obtained answers to
questions raised by Mr. John Carter. He said Carole Hastings has admitted
that there was inadequate information in the budget concerning salaries.
However, there are legitimate answers to all questions raised.
Mrs. Thomas said she appreciated all of the questions raised by the
public. Several citizens had gone through the budget with a "fine-toothed
comb". It was impossible for them to read it the way it was put together.
Mrs. Humphris said she hopes that the staff working on the budget next year
will take these comments into consideration.
Mr. Marshall thanked Mr. Tucker for the good job he did in formulating a
budget. He said that if it was not for the trust he had in Mr. Tucker and
Mrs. Hastings, he would not have voted for approval of this budget.
Agenda Item No. 16. Adjourn. At 10:35 p.m., with no further business
to come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.
Chairman