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Home My WebLink AboutARB201900052 Correspondence 2019-05-29 1 . . J Margaret Maliszewski From: Matt Wertman Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 8:40 AM To: Margaret Maliszewski Subject: FW: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Attachments: BRN-Screening Plants-5.28.19.pdf Margaret,will this work? From: Lisa Glass • Sent:Tuesday, May 28, 2019 1:57 PM To: Matt Wertman <mwertman@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Matt, For your discussion with Margaret, I have attached a sketch plan showing how groups of plants could be set near the Existing Evergreen trees along Route 250 at Brownsville. For size of proposed installed plants, I suggest 36 inch for the Type B plantings at the eastern end, which already has a bank to help provide a screen. IF taller plants are required, then I'd go up to 7 gallon, but jut one or two per grouping. I don't think the larger plants are as easily established... Also,to provide a quick effective screen there is a V. chindo or V.odoratissimum in each group, both of which grow about foot a year. So,they'd be 4 feet by next year or 6 foot if a 7 gallon plant is used. The Type A grouping has more of the taller, quicker,growing plants so they are placed at the Western end of the site where there is more screening needed. I hope this help. Let me know if you want me to work directly with Margaret. Lisa Lisa Glass Project Manager—Facilities Planning&Construction Division County of Albemarle I Facilities&Environmental Services Department 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902-4596 PH - 434-872-4501, Ext. 3037 . Fax-434-293-0294 Cell-434-987-4715 , (glass@ albemarle.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. 1 imam*,,nd I Wywn,Mal S,iC 4 From: Matt Wertman Sent:Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:54 AM To: Lisa Glass<Iglassc albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Do you have any thoughts on this?Joe would prefer to avoid trees. • From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent:Thursday, May 23, 2019 11:09 AM To: Matt Wertman<mwertman@albemarle.org> Cc:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN I'm not an expert, but it looks like some Ligustrum are considered invasive species, and some don't grow very tall. From: Matt Wertman Sent:Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:41 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Cc:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Margaret, in addition to the need to screen,we want to keep the costs low. Schools wondered about Ligustrum. Thoughts? From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent:Wednesday, May 22, 2019 12:39 PM To: Matt Wertman <mwertman@albemarle.org> Cc:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Matt, I think Lisa's suggestion for mixing the shrubs in an informal, staggered arrangement is good and the plant choices are fine. However,the ARB is going to be looking for substantial screening from the start.They are looking for plant spacing and height at planting that provide a continuous screen. 36" may not be tall enough, although it may be possible to mix some 36" plants in with taller ones.The planting height plays into the choice of plants.Those with a shorter mature size will be more difficult to find at taller planting sizes. I'll send you another email summarizing the changes needed for ARB approval. Thanks. Margaret From: Matt Wertman Sent:Wednesday, May 22, 2019 8:53 AM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> 2 Cc:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com> Subject: FW: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Margaret, THANK YOU for your help with Monday's ARB meeting! Below are the plant suggestions that Lisa Glass made. I believe I referenced this in responding to a question. Are you ok with us using these plants?What are your thoughts on Lisa's idea of staggered groupings of 3-5 in lieu of a continuous screen? I've copied Jonathan from Timmons.They will include whatever we work out on their minor site plan resubmission. -Matt From: Lisa Glass Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 3:17 PM To: Matt Wertman <mwertman@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings- plant suggestions for SCREEN Matt, I suggest smaller screening shrubs, 6 to 15 ft ultimate height. You can start with 30-36 inch plants, about 4-5 ft on center and let them grow Staggered groupings of 3 or 5 in a group NOT a continuous screen.Two options listed below: A) To follow up with Margaret's suggestion: The Viburnums from the ARB list are below. They are all good in my opinion. May be get a mix to make it more natural looking. B) A more informal planting to mix in Abelias, Holly,Osmanthus and Photinia with some Viburnum. Same theme of groupings of 3 to 5 plants at the top of the bank, in front of the existing trees. BROADLEAVED EVERGREEN/SEMI-EVERGREEN SHRUBS (Sc Viburnum x burkwoodii Burkwood Viburnum Viburnum x pragense Prague Viburnum Viburnum rhytidophyllum "Alleghany" "Alleghany" Viburnum Viburnum utile "Conoy" "Conoy" Viburnum Abelia grandiflora & cvs. Glossy Abelia (Compacts, Edwar Ilex cornuta "B:urfordii" IBurford Holly - - Osmanthus heterophyllus & cvs. Holly Osmanthus (Gulft Photina x fraseri Redtip Photinia 3 - P Lisa Glass Project Manager—Facilities Planning&Construction Division County of Albemarle I Facilities& Environmental Services Department 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902-4596 ' PH - 434-872-4501, Ext. 3037 Fax-434-293-0294 Cell -434-987-4715 (glass@albemarle.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. it=s..' 'i t"r.'' t§:s'‘•, ir i f% ALUM -LIE COuw;; From: Matt Wertman Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 12:30 PM To: Lisa Glass<Iglass@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Rough Renderings , Lisa, I'm in the midst of packing and such, but I'm hoping to be back downtown late this afternoon, and of course I'll be there Monday morning.The ARB meeting is at 1:30 on Monday. See correspondence with Margaret below regarding potential plantings. I'll copy you on an email to Timmons as well.Any thoughts/ideas you have would be greatly appreciated! From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent:Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:41 PM To: Matt Wertman <mwertman@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings I think the Arborvitae are too narrow.Something that's got more width to it might work better. Maybe a viburnum? Depending on the number of plants needed,we might want to consider a mix. From: Matt Wertman Sent:Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:08 PM To:'Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings Margaret,thanks for the quick response. I can certainly get photos of the material samples when I check it against the existing colors. With regards to screening, my sense is that we'd want something 5-6'tall (comparing to where the balloons are in relation to the limbs on the trees). I think that would shield it pretty well. Any thoughts? I can check with Timmons to see what kind of plantings they would recommend unless you have some thoughts? I know Emerald Green Arborvitae are pretty good at screening, and I think they would blend in to the environment pretty well, but getting enough of those that are large enough to screen it immediately may get expensive pretty quickly. 4 From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent:Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:02 PM To: Matt Wertman <mwertman@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings 1. 241 2. I think these photos are helpful. 3. I'll take a look at the lighting info. 4. Taking a photo of the material sample next to the building material you are trying to match can be helpful in explaining color choices to the ARB. Based on the work you've done, if plants were to be added at the top of the berm for screening, how tall would they need to be? From: Matt Wertman Sent:Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:56 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Cc: Blake Abplanalp<babplanalp@albemarle.org>;Joe Letteri<iletteri@k12albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings Margaret, a few things: 1. What room will Monday's meeting be in? Is 1:30 still a good time to get there? 2. I-did the balloon test this morning. I was battling the wind a bit, but I think the balloon tests more or less validate the Sketchup model that we built. It's a little off, but not too much. See the images attached (balloons - are red stars). Please let me know if you see any issues with these images and/or if you need more. 3. I've attached a photometric plan for the Remote Head, Compass light fixture. I also attached the cut sheet for the Lithonia Porch Light(photometric plan is on the 2nd page). 4. I have material samples. I'll be back downtown tomorrow and can bring them to you (please note that I got samples based on colors we discussed in our meeting and NOT what was originally proposed). I'm going to take them into the field this afternoon and see what matches the existing metal the closest. Was there anything else that you needed?Thanks! -Matt From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 9:43 AM To: Matt Wertman<mwertman@albemarle.org> Cc: Blake Abplanalp<babplanalp@albemarle.org>;Joe Letteri<iletteri@k12albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings OK. It sounds like pushing it back and/or rotating aren't worth it. Let's see what the balloon test shows us. Thanks. Margaret From: Matt Wertman Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 9:40 AM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Cc: Blake Abplanalp<babplanalp@albemarle.org>;Joe Letteri<jletteri@k12albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Rough Renderings 5 Margaret, I did check to see if pushing it further from the street would help—it really doesn't make much of a difference.That would also end up costing the County additional money because we'd then have to build a fire access road to maintain the -150' hose distance the fire marshal requires. With regards to rotating it 90 degrees,we could certainly take a look at that, but that would make the HVAC units more visible,which (in my personal opinion) look less aesthetically pleasing.The other elevations are also longer so they'd increase the amount the building fronts the road,which I'm not sure would do us much good. Lastly,that would also likely impede on the baseball field that is there. I will try to get out there either tomorrow or Wednesday to do the balloon test. -Matt From: Margaret Maliszewski Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 8:57 AM To: Matt Wertman<mwertman@albemarle.org> Cc: Blake Abplanalp<babplanalp@albemarle.org>;Joe Letteri<jletteri@k12albemarle.org> , Subject: RE: Rough Renderings Matt, These images show much more visibility than I anticipated. I agree with you about the trees.Since these images are not making a good case for little visual impact,flying the balloons might be worth the effort. (Early morning before the wind picks up is typically best.) Would shifting the modular classroom away from the street, and possibly turning it 90 degrees to further increase distance from the street,further limit visibility?Are these changes possible? Margaret From: Matt Wertman Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 5:28 PM To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Cc: Blake Abplanalp<babplanalp@albemarle.org>;Joe Letteri<jletteri@k12albemarle.org> Subject: Rough Renderings Margaret, We attempted to do some in-house renderings using Sketchup.These are VERY rough, but do you think this will suffice? Based on the photos I submitted, I think the views are pretty close, but I do think the actual trees are NOT quite as limbed up as the ones that are in this model. I can go do the balloon test next week if you think that would be better? Matt Wertman Senior Project Manager—Facilities Planning&Construction Division County of Albemarle I Facilities& Environmental Services Department 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville,VA 22902-4596 P:434-872-4501 x3223 6 � 1 i F: 434-293-0294 M: 540-447-0682 mwertman@albemarle.org Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. 7