HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-02-10February 10, 2015 (Adjourned Meeting)
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An adjourned meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County, Virginia, was held on
February 10, 2015, at 5:00 p.m., Lane Auditorium, County Office Building, McIntire Road, Charlottesville,
Virginia. The meeting was adjourned from February 18, 2015.
PRESENT: Mr. Kenneth C. Boyd, Ms. Jane D. Dittmar, Ms. Ann Mallek, Ms. Diantha H. McKeel,
Ms. Liz A. Palmer and Mr. Brad L. Sheffield.
ABSENT: None.
OFFICERS PRESENT: County Executive, Thomas C. Foley, County Attorney, Larry W. Davis,
Clerk, Ella W. Jordan, and Senior Deputy Clerk, Travis O. Morris, Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning
and Elaine Echols, Principal Planner.
Agenda Item No. 1. The meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m. by Chair, Ms. Dittmar.
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Agenda Item No. 2. Work Session: CPA-2013-01 Comprehensive Plan Update/Amendment.
Ms. Elaine Echols, Principal Planner, stated that there were several topics to cover at this
meeting. She stated that the first topic would be the text of the Implementation chapter, along with the
recommendations from the Planning Commission on several topics that the Board had asked it to review:
Woolen Mills, resident artist communities, livability in existing neighborhoods, and the redlines of the first
seven chapters of the plan. As part of the review of each chapter, she said the Board would be looking at
priority strategies, specifically the Board could decide which it felt were the most important to work on first.
She stated that the normal process has been to take public comment at the very beginning of the work
session, and then again at 7:00 p.m.
The Chair opened the public comment period.
Mr. Greg Smith addressed the Board, stating that he is the petitioner for the artist communities
zoning text amendment. Mr. Smith stated that he is a resident of the Scottsville District, but was before
the Board as Executive Director of the Virginia Center for Creative Arts (VCCA), which was founded in
Albemarle County 44 years ago but has been located in Amherst for the past 35 years. He said, last fall,
the VCCA applied for a zoning text amendment which would add a provision in the code to allow an
artists’ community to locate in Albemarle County and, since then, discussions with both County staff and
the Planning Commission have been both beneficial and challenging. Mr. Smith stated that the primary
reason for the latter is that VCCA is the only artists’ community in the Commonwealth of Virginia and ,
therefore, there are no current County zoning provisions to provide for these types of organizations. He
stated that the VCCA was currently located on property zoned Agricultural/Residential District A-1 in
Amherst County, and is likely to be the only applicant under this section of the code. Mr. Smith said
VCCA agrees with 95% or so of the statements incorporated in Attachment B as part of the Board’s
packets, but there are some differences, most notably the section which states, “New construction for
residence halls is not appropriate as it would prevent reversion to by-right use in the rural area.” He
stated that this was based on the view that a structure for artists with bedrooms and bathrooms was, by
necessity, of “limited reversibility options.” Mr. Smith said the VCCA contests this view as it ignores the
ability to design and build the structure which could be gutted to become usable as a barn or agricultural
use in the future. He stated that the VCC has suggested that such convertibility could be required by the
County as a way to protect a rural area property in an application under this possible section. Mr. Smith
said the VCCA would like to ask the Board to approve the inclusion of the “artists’ communities” section in
the zoning code, but without the prohibition of new construction for residential spaces.
Mr. Pete Caramanis addressed the Board, stating that he was representing Woolen Mills, LLC,
and the contract purchaser of the Woolen Mills property which is slated for redevelopment by developer
Brian Roy. Mr. Caramanis stated that they filed a comprehensive plan amendment seeking to change the
designation of the property to transitional, which was an outgoing designation. He said the reason they
chose that designation is because it allowed for the greatest flexibility. He said what is proposed for the
site is a mixed-use development which would include commercial, light industrial and residential, and that
flexibility is important from a development perspective, i.e., for financial feasibility, and also the fact that
historic buildings were more conducive to be restored in a historically responsible manner and then used
as residential rather than industrial. Mr. Caramanis said he met with Ms. Echols and staff to work through
some of these details and, eventually, came through with the determination that they could move forward
without a Comp Plan change for this property as long as the residential component would not exceed
50% of the use on the property. He stated that this was the bare minimum to make it a feasible project
and, when the Planning Commission addressed this the previous week, Commissioners were
unanimously in support of more flexibility to allow a greater percentage of residential, and is the
recommendation coming forward to the Board. Mr. Caramanis said they wanted, from the beginning, to
allow that kind of flexibility, so the property could come to fruition and again be a vibrant property that was
attracting people to it once again. He stated that he and the developer were asking the Board to accept
the Planning Commission’s recommendation and allow the flexibility to go beyond the 50% residential
while still contemplating a mixed-use development.
Mr. Brian Roy addressed the Board, stating that he is the contract purchaser of the old Woolen
Mills site at the end of East Market Street. Mr. Roy stated that the property is a historical building over
100 years old. He noted that the site itself predates the Civil War with a tremendous history which has
been somewhat locked up because it had been owned for the past 60+ years by the same family. He
said he is hoping to redevelop it and bring back some of its historical charm. He said their goal was to
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make this not only an attractive residential property, but also a semi-public site which would help engage
the river and allow for connection of a trail that currently does not exist. Mr. Roy said other cities around
the state and country make the river a significant part of its downtown urban redevelopment, and this is
an opportunity that has not really existed in the County, i.e. to engage the river and allow for public
access, and potentially allow for outdoor recreation. He stated that the true charm of the buildings
themselves are that they look 100 years old, with the historic charm and industrial nature still present and,
to the benefit of the current owners, it has not been damaged. Mr. Roy said a lot of the real pieces of
history that stand out are the ones developers would want to keep in this property, are already there and
ones that lend itself very well to historic preservation. He stated that he planned to use the Historic Tax
Credit program, which was very much regulated in terms of what someone can do to a building and how
one can engage the current reuse yet still preserve the historical aspects. Mr. Roy said there would most
likely be more discussions about this property as it comes to a full rezoning, and he expressed his
appreciation for all of staff’s efforts. He stated that this would be a tremendous economic undertaking, as
the site does not necessarily lend itself to having Light Industrial type businesses in a building similar to
the original inhabitants.
Mr. Tom Olivier of the Samuel Miller District addressed the Board, stating that he was speaking
on behalf of Advocates for a Sustainable Albemarle Population (ASAP). Mr. Olivier said ASAP saw many
good features in the new draft Comp Plan, but also sees one glaring omission: beginning with the vision
statement, the current draft fails to identify the “ri ght size” for the community it aims to be, and does not
acknowledge the impacts that projected population growth would have on the County’s ability to
accomplish goals which are stated in the draft. For example, he said the newly proposed growth
management goal statement in Attachment C implies that, by directing growth to development areas, the
rural areas would be preserved; however, Figure 2 in the Rural Areas chapter indicates that , in recent
decades, about half of the new housing starts were in the rura l areas. Mr. Olivier said the Weldon Cooper
Center projected a population size for Albemarle County of 155,000 by 2040, an increas e of about 50,000
people, and asked if there was anyone who seriously believed the County could add even 25,000 people
to the rural areas without harming the natural resources it contains. He stated that studies by ASAP a
few years ago, funded in part by Albemarle County and the City of Charlottesville, showed that all human
population growth destroys vital ecosystem services; stream water quality fall sharply as human
population density increases in our rural area; and the local landscape cannot presently provide the
biological products needed to sustain our current population, and noted that we are living off of open
spaces of other places already. Mr. Olivier stated that the ASAP studies were not citied in the Com p
Plan, and ASAP feels those studies should be. As a larger endeavor, he said ASAP continues to ask the
City and County to start a joint public process to identify a finite, right-size for the community that would
be considered in planning processes. Mr. Olivier stated that ASAP seeks a right size that protects the
environment and supports a high quality of human life. He said the Weldon Cooper Center recently
estimated that Albemarle County grew 4.8% between 2010 and 2014, and Charlottesville grew 9.9% in
this brief period. He stated that these numbers make even more urgent the need to actively discuss
Albemarle County’s right size.
There were no other comments from the public at this time.
Ms. Echols reported that staff provided the Board the first six pages of the Implementation
Chapter, which address how plans are implemented. She noted that there were voluntary measures and
regulatory measures, and there was also an emphasis on consistent application of policy to help make
the County’s vision become a reality. She said funding and the Capital Improvements Program (CIP)
were also important pieces which would help make the vision a reality. She noted that what is shown on
the maps also helps with implementation, as does the adopted work program for each department in the
County. She stated that staff would like to know from the Board whether there were things in the
implementation text that it felt needed changing, or if Supervisors were OK with things as stated.
Mr. Boyd said, in the past, implementation has always been driven by the financial part of it and
whether or not the County had any money to make changes, which has always been the biggest
deterrent to any implementation.
Ms. Mallek said this was essentially the dream list which was put out there in hopes that someday
the County would be able to fund at least the highest priority things.
Ms. Palmer stated she thinks of it as a perpetual to-do list.
Ms. Echols said staff would get to the list later in the meeting and stated that, if the Board was OK
with the implementation text, staff would move onto the Planning Commission’s recommendations. She
stated that Lee Catlin and Susan Stimart would provide assistance in answering questions on the
economic development impacts of the Woolen Mills proposal and also the recommendations of the
Planning Commission. She said, as Mr. Caramanis and Mr. Roy had mentioned, they came before the
Board with a request that consideration be given during this Comp Plan update to changing the
designation of the Woolen Mills property which is located at the end of Market Street and at the end of
Broadway Street. She stated that this site is in the Southern and Western neighborhoods master plan,
shown as a center, and she noted the presence of Office/R&D/Flex -Light Industrial, as well as
Neighborhood Density Residential, and Parks & Green Systems. She said the map also depicts the
floodplain situation. She stated that the applicant has asked the Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA) to look at the floodplain elevations, and has also submitted a floodplain study, making the
case that the elevations were based on old topography. Ms. Echols said they provided the most current
topography for the floodplain elevations and asked FEMA if it would update it, and the preliminary
information received indicates that FEMA is in favor of it, but it was not all finished yet. She stated that
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there were still things happening with the City Engineer, the County Engineer, FEMA and the applicant’s
engineer, to find out whether or not this was going to happen. She stated that , assuming that the
floodplain boundary would change, it would enable the owner of the properties to apply for a special use
permit for fill in the floodplain. Ms. Echols said fill in the floodplain would enable the basements to be
filled, which would effectively bring the buildings out of the floodplain so that the buildings could be used
for residential use.
Ms. Echols stated that the buildings are currently zoned Light Industrial and could be used for that
purpose, but the owner would like to do something that is more mixed use, which is what the
Neighborhood Model recommends, but with a larger residential component. Ms. Echols said the
applicant made application to the County for a change in land use, and staff worked extensively with Ms.
Stimart and Ms. Catlin, with the applicants, and the Zoning Department to determine if there was any way
the applicant’s proposal could come into conformit y with the land use designation and staff thought they
might be able to do that. She stated that staff put together some modifications to the Southern and
Western Neighborhoods Master Plan description of this particular area, which addressed the fill in the
floodplain aspect. Ms. Echols said the applicant told the Planning Commission that he thought he could
use the existing designation, but he really liked the residential component for making the large mill
building into loft apartments, and felt that would be a good way to preserve the historic resource. She
stated that staff was looking at the categories of use for Office/R&D/Flex -Light Industrial, and she
presented text from the section which dealt with that category, noting that “secondary uses are allowed
where those are deemed compatible with nearby adjoining uses.” Ms. Echols said residential use is
allowed in this category, but was supposed to be the exception and not the rule. She stated that, in
discussing with the applicant how much residential they could have under this category, staff indicated
that secondary would mean it would have to be less than half. Ms. Echols said they were trying to get
some clarity on that and recommended in the language for the Southern and Western Neighborhoods
Master Plan that “less than half” would be used for residential.
Ms. Echols stated that the Planning Commission wanted to pro vide more options, and indicated it
could support all of the other language except the piece in the recommendation that no more than half of
the land would be used residentially and indicated that it had to be removed from the description. She
said this meant that, if there was a desire on the part of the Board for more residential use, this category
would no longer be the appropriate one and there would need to be a different category brought to the
Board as an alternative. Ms. Echols said it is important for the Board to know that staff tried very hard to
preserve the Office/R&D/Flex-Light Industrial designation with the Light Industrial ideas, because of the
Board’s commitment to employment uses, and is really a question for the Board about how important it
thought the employm ent category and employment uses were at that particular location. She stated that
it should also be noted that there are not many places like this in Albemarle County, although there are a
few historic buildings in the floodplain in Scottsville. She noted that, in cities like Richmond and other
areas with floodplain, it is more common. Ms. Echols emphasized that, if staff was bringing a different
designation to the Board, it was probably going to be a unique designation for this particular area,
because nothing else fits cleanly, and no other land use category cleanly applies to this particular
situation. She said it was a bit like downtown Crozet, i.e., a specific location that had specific
recommendations which do not exist anywhere else and, if the Board wanted to consider an alternate
land use category, it would be discussing the Development Areas in March, and this could possibly fit into
that discussion.
Ms. Dittmar said this discussion was similar to the temporary indoor soccer facility discussion,
when there was a lot of pushback from staff who expressed concern about using valuable LI area for that
purpose. She stated that Supervisors decided to allow for the temporary reuse because it was
temporary, and the Board was very eager for it to be available for LI. In her research about this project,
she said her only concern was that there not be an explosion of residential in an industrial area, as this
small corner of the County could be really rich for jobs.
Ms. Palmer said she appreciated staff trying to keep this zoned LI, and understands how much
that land is needed. She stated that she talked with three Planning Commissioners about it, and they
explained how unique this property was and how difficult it would be to get LI to work there, so she came
out of those discussions thinking that the applicant needed more flexibility to make the a rea work. Ms.
Palmer said she was not sure how much flexibility the Board should grant, because she did not want
people to come back and say they did not want to have businesses there.
Ms. Mallek said 49% of that square footage was a lot of residential housing, and noted that this
was similar to the discussion happening in downtown Crozet with a very strong contingent sayi ng that
employment is what the County should be doing. She said filling up space even halfway with houses
would change how the rest of it would unfold because of the presence of residential. She stated that the
top floors of the mill would be a cool place for very expensive lofts, but to have hundreds of apartments in
there would be counter to what she envisioned with high ceiling spaces and those kinds of amenities.
Ms. Mallek said she was very reluctant to throw in the towel this early adding that unique was one thing,
but shortly, the Board would probably have an argument from someone saying the County does not have
enough light industrial spaces and the Board needed to rezone something else, or add onto the growth
area to achieve more LI. She stated that she appreciated the effort it was going to take, and that it would
be difficult and challenging to do, but she has not yet been convinced that the Board needs to change its
rules for where it belongs.
Mr. Sheffield commented that this is such a unique part of the County because the property is
tucked away into the City’s infrastructure. He said he did not have a problem with the residential
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component because he envisioned commercial and industrial growth happening in other places but not
there.
Ms. Mallek said the property is within a mile of the interstate interchange and has great
transportation, so it has a lot of the business attributes that other spaces do not have.
Mr. Sheffield said the City tries really hard to keep a lot of traffic off East Market Street.
Ms. Mallek said someone would come in on Broadway off of I-64 to access this property.
Ms. Palmer noted that the slope would be very challenging.
Ms. McKeel said she agreed with Ms. Mallek, adding that she was hesitant to do anything that
would change the parameters, and felt that staff should look at more options and bring those back to the
Board. She stated that she looked at this area as providing some interesting opportunities for jobs, and
anytime there was just one particular place that was so different, it was hard to deal with that area. She
added that Supervisors would need to be pretty careful.
Mr. Sheffield asked if this property had been slated for redevelopment in the past.
Mr. Cilimberg said the historically significant buildings – the mill and other properties – have been
the focus of what developers were hoping to turn into residential, but there have never been any
proposals for use. He stated that staff has anticipated that residential would go into those older buildings
because tax credits could be used while preserving the buildings. He said employment-generating kinds
of uses would be more industrial in nature and would probably be in a newer building or buildings that
would be onsite but not necessarily combined with these buildings. Mr. Cilimberg said staff would want to
have more than 50% of the site’s development devoted to that type of use.
Ms. Echols said the applicant has a very creative proposal, and staff felt there were many
wonderful opportunities with this project, with the sticking point being the residential. She stated that the
larger building would be for residential units, with two smaller buildings that could potentially be used in
different ways. Ms. Echols suggested the Board hear from Ms. Catlin, as her office has been working on
the different kinds of possibilities which might exist and on flexible options that might be available.
Ms. Catlin stated that she echoed Ms. Echols’ and Mr. Cilimberg’s commendations about the
applicants, their flexibility and hard work, and agreed that this was a unique opportunity both in terms of
location, the historic nature, and the context of the project. She said staff worked very hard to find that
balance, and where they landed was to make residential possible but still be the secondary use in order
to retain the character of what they thought it was intended to be. Ms. Catlin stated that LI was not the
old-fashioned “smokestack” kind of LI, but was instead the research and development kind of operation.
She stated that what Woolen Mills provided that the County did not have in many other places was a
“cool factor” – a neat location that was close to the City, that had other things going on and offered the
“millennial flavor” that is not found in very many other places in the County. Ms. Catlin said, with the
addition of the river, it becomes an attractive place for the kinds of businesses that are the emerging part
of the economy – high tech, research and technology, biotech, and even food and beer processing.
Ms. Palmer asked what kind of flexibility the applicant was actually asking for and the percentage
of residential being sought.
Ms. Catlin stated that it had been hard to land on a number, but the closest they could get was
the rationale that it should still be predominantly LI focused, which put the residential at 49%, however,
that was not a magic number and, basically, just fostered the majority of LI use.
Ms. Boyd said he was thinking back to a site long ago that the Board converted from LI to
commercial, and, because of that, the County will have a Wegman’s here, which a lot of people are very
glad about. He stated that the Comprehensive Plan needs to be in conjunction with private ownership of
property, so the Board needs to make sure it works with people who have ideas for it. Mr. Boyd said this
was a very unique and unusual site, and he was very willing to work with the owners of the property in
terms of what they can do to feasibly develop it. He said he would not be opposed to considering what
the applicant has brought forward. He stated that, if the Board puts barriers around that, it takes away the
creativity the owners need to develop what the economy of the project affords, and he sees an
opportunity here for development of an unusual place in the County. Mr. Boyd stated that he agreed with
the assessment that this property was ideal for millennials who would be able to work and play near the
river area.
Ms. Palmer said she totally agreed with Mr. Boyd.
Ms. McKeel said she also agreed.
Ms. Dittmar said she was reticent to change anything before the new economic development
director arrived, adding that she has had to explain to constituents in the Avon Street extended corridor
why the County must retain LI in that area. She stated that flexibility could be a good thing but, if the
Board was interested in moving away from this designation, she would suggest making no decisions and
wait until it sees what “flexibility” means for a specif ic area. Ms. Dittmar said she wanted to make sure the
area was there for jobs and, if a project came forward with residential that was 60% or more, that would
not be her vision for what the future of that area would be.
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Ms. Palmer said she would like Ms. Echols to come back after working with the applicant to see
what that actually means, to see if the County can be more flexible but still stay within its intent to keep a
major portion of LI there.
Mr. Boyd said Ms. Echols had noted that Supervisors would be taking up that chapter of the
Comp Plan in the future, so perhaps the best solution would be to deal with it at that time.
Ms. Echols said what staff could do would be to talk about what the ideal proportionate share of
different uses would be and bring that back to the Board. She stated that the Board was aware of the
desire to have a large residential component, so staff should be able to show on the g round what that
would mean, come up with some options for Supervisors to consider, and that could be done as soon as
the March meeting.
Mr. Boyd stated that, when people came forth regarding the soccer location, they expressed how
delightful it was to get to the Downtown Mall and restaurants, and this area would likely be similar to that.
Ms. Mallek said those same people wanted to keep the business neighborhood and felt a great
synergy from one business to another. She asked Ms. Echols to clarify the process involved, as the
applicant had applied for a Comp Plan Amendment.
Ms. Echols said the Board is addressing it as it goes along.
Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning, stated that staff had rolled this into the Board’s Comp
Plan review and, ideally, staff would like to get this established as part of the Board’s approval of the
Comp Plan.
Mr. Caraminis said this discussion of percentages was kind of what he had been doing all along
with Ms. Echols, and part of the reason they were coming forward to the Board now was to try to get
some guidance from the Board as to what would be acceptable. He stated that the 51%-49% was pretty
much stretching what they thought was feasible from a financial and historic preservation perspective . He
noted that a maximum residential percentage was not discussed, however, the Planning Commission
supported a higher level. Mr. Caraminis said, if they were going to have to go back and talk to staff about
an ideal percentage, it may be helpful to have more guidance from the Board.
Ms. Palmer asked what his ideal percentage would be. Mr. Caraminis said the existing old
buildings were better suited, from a redevelopment and historic preservation perspective, to be outfitted
for residential and the Light Industrial uses would be in a newly constructed build ing on the side that
faced the Service Authority. He said, since this property started out as transitional zoning, it actually
would transition from the residential use on one side of the property, then to residential on the property
itself, and then within the property changing over to a mix with light industrial, and then completely over to
light industrial. Mr. Caraminis said the mill building itself would be used for commercial uses, perhaps a
brewery with a restaurant affiliated with it, but their investigation of Light Industrial users has shown that
they typically want to spend less per square foot and, when someone is talking about “cool spaces,” those
generally are not cheap. He stated that a lot of LI users are not interested in spending the kind of money
needed to be in this type of building, especially after developing the site in a way that preserves the
historical tax credits. Mr. Caraminis said this is currently an LI property and has been for a long time and,
if it was so inviting to those LI users, there would be a lot of people interested in trying to do this but, from
what he has heard, there really are not.
Ms. Mallek said it has been an active furniture storage space for a long time, and has been a
viable business.
Ms. Dittmar said this makes the argument for having the economic development director on
board, because it takes someone working full-time to establish what the best and highest use is, and how
it fits into the model of job creation. She stated that she did not want to hold the applicant up for another
month. She noted that the only thing the Board was deciding now was whether it wanted to change the
Comp Plan category for this. She said she would like to see what a special designation might look like
before turning down any change.
Ms. Palmer asked if Mr. Roy knew the percentage of square footage when looking at the new
building versus the old. Mr. Roy responded that, in talking about a 51%/49% split, they were trying to
conform businesses into a new building and seeing if they could add 2,000 square feet here or breaking it
up into the existing buildings. He also said there was a question as to whether an outdoor recreational
business would count into the overall ratio and staff said no, so there were a lot of moving pieces but he
felt they could get to a point that might be workable.
Ms. Mallek said the mill probably feels huge, and asked if it was about four stories tall. Mr. Roy
said it was about 100,000 square feet total, with 25,000 square feet between the saw tooth and another
75,000 square feet of stories.
Ms. Mallek said this would be a whole bunch of residential, with a new 42,000 square foot
building to the west. Mr. Roy said the saw tooth would have components of both as a live/work studio
space, with perhaps something like a photography space because of the high ceilings. He said the
question would be how to designate commercial versus residential.
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Ms. McKeel asked if they were saying that they had some financial parameters in order to make
this work. She said she was trying to get an idea of what the residential percentage would need to be.
Mr. Roy said there absolutely is a tipping point and, by putting too much residential and business
in the same building, it creates significant problems for banks and financing, particularly when there are
historical tax credits, which can almost be a deal breaker. He stated that the more layers that are put on
top of it, the more difficult it is, and a primary LI-flex use encroaches more into the residential portion
which makes the project harder to work. Mr. Roy noted that, in the four-story mill building on the first
floor, he has designated about 10,000 square feet for a non-residential use in addition to the saw tooth
building use and the outdoor use.
Ms. Echols said this is where they were before they went to the Planning Commission, making it
look close enough to fit in the designation but, in getting down to the rezoning and the list of uses that
would be allowed and how much, that is where the rubber hits the road. She stated that there were
several options, including using the existing category of Office R&D/Flex/L ight Industrial and then, when
the applicant comes in for their rezoning, the Board looks for conformity as close as possible to that, with
any flexibility it feels it may have. She said the other option would give more flexibility and describes the
site in more detail which is a bit different from the usual Comp Plan approach with a maximum number of
units, minimum amount of square footage in non-residential, etc. Ms. Echols said the question for the
Board was which way it wanted to go, adding that staff could work a bit more to get what the categories
might be.
Mr. Boyd asked if it would be possible for the Comp Plan to have a plus or a minus included,
because he was sympathetic to the applicants as they would not know what kind of tenants they would
have until they got into their project. He noted that the applicants are simply trying to limit their risk as
much as possible.
Ms. Mallek stated that one of the problems all along has been the rigidity that is perceived.
Mr. Boyd asked if it would be possible to have a type of LI or residential zoning that would allow
for plus or minus 10%, depending on the build-out. Ms. Echols said staff would have to look at what that
unique district would say.
Ms. Mallek stated that the first category described appealed to her much more than the second
one which sounded like a code of development for a Neighborhood Model that would cause lots of
headaches. She said, regarding the first one, if staff could figure out a sentence that described the
challenges because of the historic building and bringing together all of the different players, it would help
her accept the lack of adherence to 50%, as there might be some way to address flexibility within the
building. Ms. Mallek said it occurred to her, in visiting the building, what an appealing site it was and she
would like to have enough information to feel that the Board was not giving away the ranch and helping
the applicants get to where they want to be.
Ms. Dittmar suggested keeping options open for one more month, and asked Ms. Echols what
she might be able to do as far as creativity for this specific area.
Mr. Caraminis asked if the Board wanted him to meet with Ms. Echols and come up with a more
specific percentage of residential use. He added that he would love to share the details of the plan with
Supervisors which obviously would happen at the rezoning phase. He offered to bring that forward no w,
as the Planning Commission was able to see that level of detail.
Mr. Boyd said, quite often, developers contact the Board and meet with Supervisors in groups of
two, in a format that did not constitute an official meeting, and he offered to do that with the applicant.
Mr. Caraminis said he would try to do that between now and when they come before the Board in
March.
Ms. Echols said staff would also be working with Ms. Catlin and Ms. Stimart on those categories,
as this was a comprehensive process with all the involved parties.
Ms. Echols reported that another recommendation the Board had asked of the Planning
Commission was to further explore the “artists’ community” designation and what that might entail, so
staff tried to provide a bit more description in “residents artists’ community,” because that makes it more
like an artist-in-residence situation. She said, in June 2014, an applicant – Mr. Smith – made a zoning
text change request to allow for this use by special use permit in the Rural Area district. Ms. Echols
stated that the Board had talked about it at the end of the summer, and directed the Planning
Commission to study it as a concept for Comp Plan recommendation for the rural area use. She said the
Commission met three times on that issue, including in December when it tried to sort through the
parameters if it could be allowed in the rural area and, in January, the Commission provided specific
language as a recommendation, which the Board had in its staff report. Ms. Echols said the applicant
had asked to add the SP to the zoning ordinance, and put out some ideas for discussion: up to 30
resident artists, construction of a new facility or use of existing buildings in the rural area, and up to
40,000 square feet in one building or more. She stated that those were the pieces staff was considering,
and looking at in terms of how this would play out on a property in the rural area.
Ms. Echols said the Planning Commission looked at this in detail and determined that it was not
really a rural area use but could be used to help preser ve historic resources, and said that it would be
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possible to make additions to historic buildings or even construct ne w buildings. She said the
Commission established that it was really important that any ne w buildings preserve the integrity of the
historic site and not be problematic in terms of damaging the architecture or the value of the site and its
historic resources; they needed to be complementary. She stated that convertibility was essential, and
did not want that to ultimately turn out to be a facility that was no longer used for the resident artists’
community, as that might put pressure on the County to approve commercial lodging, therefore, it could
not realistically convert to by-right use. Ms. Echols said Mr. Smith took exception to that point, as
expressed in his earlier conversation with the Board. She stated t hat the Planning Commission said the
Board should consider amending the zoning ordinance to allow for these resident artist communities, and
that rural historic compatibility would be essential. Ms. Echols said the Commission talked about the
importance of a rural design, and recommended that any new buildings should be clustered together, so
there would be more of a resource preservation advantage. She stated that Commissioners initially
thought about location in or near crossroads communities was important so there could be some
interaction between those communities and the artists, however, in the last recommendation, it indicated
that a large property of significant acreage could also be considered.
Ms. Echols said the sticking point was that new construction of residence halls would not allow for
the reversion, so the Commission did not feel new construction should be allowed by zoning and has
made those recommendations. She noted that the applicant was requesting the Board re-look at whether
that issue was important, possibly removing that sentence from the Commission’s recommendations.
She stated that the residence hall was essential for this particular applicant and, if they were not able to
construct it, they may not be able to find a facility which would allow them to do what they were looking for
in Albemarle County. Ms. Echols said that was an important piece of it but, if the applicants were the only
ones that would ever do that here and could not do it here, staff wonders whether the Board wanted to
keep the recommendation in the Plan. She stated that there are some tricky aspects to this, but trusts
that the Board can figure out the right solution to the problem and make a decision.
Ms. Palmer said she really liked what staff provided as recommendations and asked Ms. Echols
to reiterate her last point.
Ms. Echols said, in the recommended language, the very last paragraph indicates that new
construction for residence halls was not appropriate as it would prevent reversion to a by-right use in the
rural area. She stated that this was the sticking point for the applicant and, if the applicant does not
believe they could use this particular provision with that statement in the Comp Plan, perhaps the whole
section could be eliminated from the Plan. Ms. Echols explained that, if this applicant was the only one
who could make use of this provision and needed to have a residence hall but the Board was saying it
could not have it, the Board may not want to add this particular strategy to the Comp Plan.
Ms. Mallek said the reverse could also be applied and, if the Board felt there should be a way to
work with this, it could remove the one sentence that says the restriction is not appropriate.
Ms. McKeel stated that she tried to envision different proposals like this that might come before
the Board, adding that she did not think the County would be overwhelmed with this type of proposal.
She stated that the Board ought to be able to work with this group without changing the Comp Plan. She
said the Planning Commission was trying to figure out all of the possible scenarios, and she would like to
see the County work with the applicant as this seemed like a great idea however, she did not see the
need to change the entire Comp Plan for it.
Ms. Mallek said, in spirit, she agreed entirely, adding that she had visited Casa Maria site and
realized what a beautiful site it would be for them but, on the other hand, she was very opposed to the
Board making things up as it went along, and to put staff in a position where they were being expected to
make policy. She added that she hoped the Board would keep its attention focused long enough to figure
out a way to make this work . She noted five other uses that could potentially move in if VCCA stopped
being there: farm worker housing, a private school, a group home such as Innisfree, b oarding camp, and
a Monastery, adding that there has never been a problem for the one in White Hall. Ms. Mallek said the
restrictions are in the Comp Plan now so that, when a special permit came forward, the applicant would
have to be in compliance, so whatever they built had to be convertible to an agricultural/rural use.
Ms. Palmer said one of her problems with this was where to draw the line between a hotel in the
rural area and a residence hall, and it seemed to her that it was also the Planning Commission’s idea.
She noted that this was the reason she had a very hard time with the residence hall concept in the rural
areas, and asked staff to comment on what they found out about hotels.
Ms. Echols responded that, when staff did their research on these kinds of facilities in other
localities, they were called “retreats” and/or “retreat centers,” which was something in discussions on the
Rural Areas chapter of the Comp Plan of which the Board was not in favor. Further, she said, in the
context of commercial lodging, the Board felt that bed and breakfast regulations were sufficient. Ms.
Echols said, going on those recommendations, staff felt this could set up a situation in which other people
would be saying “it’s just like that,” and asking why they could not have it. She stated that, if the Board
wanted to do that in the future, that was a different direction. Ms. Echols said , in this particular
application, they want individual bedrooms and bathrooms for each artist and, if they should not be able
to continue with their program, it would open the property up for other uses. She stated that this was why
staff had leaned toward an arrangement whereby there were other structures on the property that could
be used, and perhaps there was a way to make it work without the residence hall being built.
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Ms. Mallek said one delineating factor for her was the length of time people would spend there
and, if they were there for 21 days or more, for example, it was not the same kind of thing as traffic
coming in and out every day or for the weekend. She said this was how they currently addressed rentals
of rural properties, as they were not supposed to have short-term rentals happening.
Ms. Palmer asked if they would want to have an art show or something to raise money, because
they would need to raise money at some point.
Ms. Echols responded that the applicant was asking for the ability to have a quarterly open house
so, depending on how many people they expect, there would need to be a determination of whether or
not they needed a special use permit for events.
Ms. Dittmar stated that she was very interested in preventing the same things that has happened
in Fluvanna County, which was crumbling historic buildings because the people who owned them could
not find financial viability in them . She added that she did not have any big answers as to how to help
people with those types of buildings while still protecting the rural area. She stated that her goal was
always to keep consistency, and the guidelines being looked at concern uses rather than users, so the
attractiveness of this particular user should be abandoned in t he Board’s final decision about whether the
guidelines need provision for studying or allowance, since it is not at a crossroads location.
Ms. Palmer said she would like to stick with what staff brought forward, and felt that Ms. Dittmar
had made an excellent point about it being a use, and not a user.
Ms. Mallek noted that this pertained to historic properties only, as crafted by the Planning
Commission, so that was already a limitation.
Ms. Palmer said the applicant could build a new residence hall.
Ms. Mallek clarified that the first threshold that had to be crossed would need to be the historic
designation.
Ms. Echols explained that the definition current ly in the Comp Plan was, “A historic resource was
a place where architectural and other remains present are in districts or buildings and structures, have
integrity of location, design, setting, materials, workmanship and feeling an association, and they a re
associated with one of these historical or cultural things: the significant contribution, lives of someone
there, embodiment of the distinct characteristics or information which is important to prehistory or has the
potential to yield this information.” She stated that there are National Register properties, State Landmark
Register properties, and other properties that have been surveyed but not yet designated. She noted that
there is no local historic district ordinance.
Mr. Sheffield commented that he liked the work staff had done.
Ms. Mallek said she was trying to clarify whether the Board wanted no new construction or
whether that construction had to be convertible.
Ms. Palmer stated that her preference was no new construction.
Mr. Davis said this was guidance for what would be proposed as a zoning text amendment, so
those details of the ZTA could be worked on further, but staff’s recommendation was to follow the
guidance provided in the Comp Plan. He said, if there was wiggle room here, there would be wiggle room
in the ZTA which might be even more difficult to define.
Ms. Dittmar asked if Supervisors were in favor of 5.C. in staff’s strategies.
Mr. Cilimberg said 5.C. was summarized as presented on the screen before the Board, and
stated that staff was trying to ascertain whether the Board concurred or wanted to make changes.
Mr. Sheffield said he felt it would be difficult to regulate new construction under the idea that it
would be able to revert back to some other kind of use, as that was getting into a level that Community
Development might not be able to handle because the County then gets into the particulars about the
intent of the construction and what the future intent might be.
Ms. Palmer agreed with what staff had brought forth.
Mr. Boyd said he was also OK with that approach.
Ms. Echols confirmed that Supervisors were in favor of what the Planning Commission had
recommended.
Ms. Echols stated that she had planned to report to the Board on the new objective for existing
neighborhoods. She said the Commission had tried to work on that, had all of the action memo
information from that meeting and was looking for the Board’s changes but she only gave Commissions
the new objective, which made it very difficult for it to follow. Ms. Echols said she had been working on
the new Development Area chapter to get it ready for Commissioners, and that should be online
tomorrow, which would reflect the Board’s requested changes and the new objective. She noted that staff
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would report back to the Board in March as to what the Commission said, and confirmed that the
Commission would meet the following week.
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Recess. The Board recessed their meeting at 6:28 p.m. and reconvened at 7:06 p.m.
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Agenda Item No. 3. Continuation of Work Session.
Ms. Echols stated that, at this juncture in the meeting, the Board is ready to look at the redlines
and priorities for the first seven chapters of the Plan. She noted that the meeting would once again begin
with public comment.
The Chair opened the public comment period.
There were no speakers, and the Chair closed the public comment period.
Ms. Echols reported that she had received some comments from the Board, and that Ms. Mallek
had also provided a good review with some typos discovered which will be corrected before the public
hearing. She said she provided the Background chapter to the Board, but did not hear back as to
whether it was suitable, so she would assume everything was acceptable. Ms. Echols stated that, in
2013 when the Comp Plan review began, the Board talked about the Livability Project in the chapter. She
said staff provided the Board with a two-page foldout that described the recommendations from the joint
Planning Commissions for the Livability Project, which was the recommendations for the City and the
County. She said those recommendations were considered a historic record of the work that was done
on the Livability Project, but the Planning Comm ission wanted to make sure this was reflected in the
goals, strategies and activities for the future. Ms. Echols said, in every chapter in the very first objective,
on the right-hand side, those recommendations from the Livability Project are noted, and all of those
recommendations are part of the strategy statements in the Plan. She emphasized that these statements
make it a commitment, rather than just a record in the Background chapter so, if Board members are not
comfortable with it being a recommendation in terms of a commitment in conjunction with the City, it was
important for staff to hear that. Ms. Echols said Supervisors have seen all of the recommendations in the
Plan and have gone over them so, unless there were changes to the strategies, everyone could agree to
all of the noted items, however, if Supervisors did not want to do that, staff should know that now, as it
would affect what is put in the final Plan.
Ms. Dittmar asked if Board members wanted to have more discussion on this section and
chapter.
Mr. Boyd said he was objecting to references to the Livability Project even being in there, and
recalled that, at the time the grant came forward, the Board was not interested in participatin g in the
project. He said staff assured the Board that they were going to be part of it, but it would only be applied
to what the Board was working on and what pertained directly to the County. He stated that he had an
objection to including it even as a historical reference, and definitely did not want it included as a
commitment.
Ms. Palmer said, as she read through it, she did not see anything that was not in the Comp Plan
in some form or fashion.
Ms. Mallek said it has historically been in the County’s Comp Plan for decades in terms of the
individual items. She said she really likes having it organized that way as a record of the fact that the
greater community talked about these things.
Mr. Boyd stated that there were a lot of people who participated who felt they were never heard or
listened to, adding that there was a predetermined outcome with that process. He said the group
surveyed residents in non-statistically sound instances on what was important and what was not
important.
Ms. McKeel asked if Mr. Boyd objected to clean water and clean air, because all of that is what
was being suggested in the Livability Project.
Mr. Boyd said, in reading the 1998 Livability Project, it talks about controlling population,
controlling the economics of the community, including a lot of things that people objected to and was
carried over into that document.
Ms. Mallek said a few did object. She noted that all of the living members of the original
sustainability group, which reflected a wide political spectrum and various points of view, came to talk
about how they had found the middle and felt that the middle of the road recommendations would provide
a place where their grandchildren would be able to live. She emphasized that it was a historical
document.
Mr. Boyd said Ms. Echols’ slide talked about making a commitment.
Ms. Echols explained that there was a place in the Plan where the Board had asked that the
Sustainability Accords be added, and noted that those were still aspirational principles. She said, after
the Planning Commission finished its work, this became a historical document, with consideration of goals
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which were now incorporated into the Background chapter in the sidebars. Ms. Echols stated that the text
now implies that “Charlottesville and Albemarle will do these things.” She said staff could make the
change to state that this was what both Planning Commissions said, but the Board could also retain it ‘as
is’ to convey it as a Board directive.
Mr. Cilimberg said it was important to distinguish between the Sustainability Accords, which were
carried over from the 1990s and are in the introduction, and the Livability Project goals, which were the
result of the work that took place in the City and County during its respective updates of the Comp Plans
over the two or so years of that grant and was completed in 2013. He emphasized that the documents
are different things. He explained that the Livability Project results were the joint work of the City and
County under the grant, and the Sustainability Accords were the aspirational principles from back in the
1990s which have been carried over in this document.
Ms. McKeel said the language says, “Protect drinking water supplies, watersheds, reduce
emissions, encourage industries to be clean and environmentally responsible,” and she would absolutely
support all of those things and keep that statement where they are in the text.
Ms. Echols asked the Board for any further suggested changes.
None were provided.
Regarding the Growth Management goal, Ms. Echols said what was in the version the Board saw
and what was in what staff put forth has to do with the existing goal: by directing growth to the
development areas, the County will preserve the rural areas for future generations. She said, when the
Board talked about the development areas, it talked about how important it was that the development
areas in their own right are good places, so there are good development areas and good rural areas, and
that the growth management policy helps the County achieve both of those things. Mr. Echols said that
was why she reworded the goal, and asked if it was acceptable to the Board. She said, if the new
wording is not acceptable, she asked Supervisors to indicate how it would like to change it.
Ms. Mallek said she liked the fact it was a positive statement about the growth areas, which was
what Supervisors were trying to address with growth management.
Ms. McKeel said it took the development area and framed it as a positive rather than in an
apologetic tone, because the Board wanted people to choose to live in growth areas.
Ms. Dittmar asked if the words “current generation” referred to her generation, or those who were
older, or younger.
Ms. Mallek said she thought it meant “living and future.”
Mr. Cilimberg said staff could change the wording to “all generations.”
Ms. Mallek suggested “present and future generations.”
The Board agreed to include “present.”
Ms. Echols reported that there were three strategies which were mostly policies that dealt with
continuing to fund the CIP, with umbrella recommendations in the individual chapters. She said the
Planning Commission did not include any priorities in this chapter because it seemed like it was overkill
so those were found elsewhere in the document. Ms. Echols stated that she did not recommend that the
Board get into prioritization of this particular chapter.
Regarding the Natural Resources chapter, Ms. Echols said the only question outstanding related
to the status was of well reporting or mapping, as it had been somewhat sporadic over the years. She
said, when the County lost its Groundwater Specialist position, staff also stopped doing any analysis of
the well-drillers reports, all of which come from the Department of Health. She said, for a while, the
County was receiving a lot of them and mapping them online, but then staff stopped getting the well-
drillers reports from the Department of Health so those are no longer at their GIS web location. Ms.
Echols said applicants for properties of less than 21 acres for subdivisions get a report from the County
which shows where the other groundwater resources are and where the other wells are . She noted that,
as the Department of Health gives the well location information, the County puts that on maps but, since
that was not happening, there was no additional mapping being done. She stated that the other issue
pertained to the test wells, noting that the County had four test wells it was monitoring but is no longer
doing that so, in answer to Ms. Mallek’s question regarding the discontinuation of the program, a lot of
those activities are no longer taking place.
Ms. Mallek said having the discussion underlined was very important because it provides
Supervisors the option of going back to determine where resources are available. She stated that the
whole point of this effort was to know where the water was available so the County would not be
approving huge water draws in places where people were already encountering serious problems such as
Blenheim, where people have to drill multiple wells at great depths in order to get anything.
Ms. Echols responded that it was proposed as part of the overall water resources plan, and got
folded into the list of items which need to be looked at and how the County will want to deal with this
matter in the future.
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Ms. Palmer said, under Air Quality, staff may want to provide a link to where and how many of the
air monitors are.
Ms. Echols said staff could definitely include a link, adding that she was only aware of one but
would check into it and record that information.
Ms. McKeel asked if this was the chapter in which climate change for the area was addressed.
Ms. Echols said the Plan does not cover climate change very much, although it had been mentioned a
few times in a few places, but not to any large extent. She noted that it was mentioned in the solid waste
section.
Ms. Palmer noted that it was included in the Livability Project goals. Ms. Echols stated that it had
not come up throughout the development of the Plan, however, if the Board felt it should be included
more than it is now, the Board should let her know.
Ms. Palmer recalled that staff was going to recommend the best places to include it.
Ms. McKeel said she would like to see the language strengthened and put somewhere.
Ms. Mallek asked if the LCAP project report, which represented a collaborative City, County and
University effort and was adopted in 2010 or 2011, was included in the reference documents. Ms. Echols
responded that staff had not included it in the reference documents, but it would be easy enough to add.
She said the natural resources information in the reference section included the watershed biodiversity
report, mountain protection, stream degradation, and Rivanna River Basin Commission’s
recommendations.
Mr. Cilimberg said the LCAP plan covered those bases pretty well, and referencing it in a
paragraph as to what it focused on would be sufficient.
Ms. Palmer noted that multi-modal transportation was also referenced as part of reducing
emissions. She said it did not work its way very easily into the Natural Resources section because it was
mostly an efficiency and a reduction.
Ms. Mallek said there was another section which talked about community services.
Ms. Echols said Community Facilities had references to that, and suggested that staff figure out
where it makes sense to include it, then have a hyperlink to get back to the main topic.
Ms. Echols stated that the Planning Commission reviewed the list of priorities in the Natural
Resources section and designated which priorities were aligned with it. She noted those items which
were enhancements and new programs for natural resources. Ms. Echols reported that the
enhancements were development of the biodiversity action plan, repeating the land cover work,
encouraging native plant use, increasing biodivers ity education, and providing more information to
potential subdividers on habitat protection. She stated that the new programs were the watershed
implementation plan, which was mandatory due to state TMDL regulations, and the water resources plan;
increasing education on water resources and adding money for water resource programs; providing
information to property owners with mineral resources on their properties; and increasing awareness of
the properties where there was potential debris flow. Ms. Echols noted that there was information on
each of those initiatives in the Board’s packets.
Ms. Palmer asked if the biodiversity piece was being handled primarily by the committee, and
wondered about the money commitment for that.
Ms. Mallek said staff’s GIS component was what the committee needed to go to the next level.
Ms. Echols mentioned that there is staff support provided to the committee, and staff is doing
some of the work along with the committee. She clarified that the land cover work was an expe nsive
project when it was done three years earlier, and the costs have come down on that, so it is a matter of
keeping the information up to date.
Ms. Mallek said it was her understanding that the state was planning to do that work for the entire
Commonwealth and that was according to Water Resources Manager, Greg Harper, so that would
provide help locally.
Ms. Palmer suggested that Ms. Echols bring back a status report on that item. She said she had
some concerns about Strategy 1F – “allow and manage recreational use of drinking water reservoirs on
adjacent public lands only as incidental uses to primary function as a public water supply, and in a
manner as to prevent cumulative impacts that may impair that primary function.” Ms. Palmer said it might
be important to footnote that item, adding that she and Ms. Mallek had a meeting on Thursday about this.
Ms. Mallek explained that this pertained to places like Sugar Hollow, where the County does not
own the land but does work with the City on that. She suggested that it might be included as an
enhancement category.
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Ms. Palmer stated that it is a policy now, and she completely agreed with it, but the County is not
really following through with it. She asked if it should require an asterisk and an enhancement if the
County were to follow through with the policy.
Ms. Echols said the Board is actually applying the policy in ways that have happened in the past.
She said, some years ago, there was a special use permit request for someone to have a private rowing
club in addition to UVA’s program on the reservoir. She stated that every time someone wanted to have
access to the reservoir, the Board would look at it for its impacts. She emphasized that, if the Board
wanted to do more with it, staff could make it a strategy.
Ms. Palmer stated that people think Sugar Hollow trails at the North and South Fork are part of a
park. She said she read a post from an individual on a trail blog recently that said, “Sugar Hollow is the
best park in Albemarle – it’s the only one where the County allows swimming.” She said, in the
summertime, it looks like Crozet Pool, so the County is not really applying its management to that area.
She said, at the upcoming meeting on Thursday, the group would be talking to the park service, the City,
and the Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority (RWSA) so, if the Board decided to do something different
with that, then it could.
Mr. Cilimberg said, when that column of the policy items were checked, it meant there was an
assumption the County was already doing it.
Ms. Mallek said, for Albemarle County properties, that is definitely being done, however, with
Sugar Hollow, it is not County property which is why staff cannot control it.
Mr. Foley said it establishes what the Board wants to do, and the Comp Plan provides the
foundation for all of the work that will be done to try to mak e sure that this was adhered to on a broader
level. He stated that it does not keep the County from being able to do anything, and also does not
require that the Board put everything it was doing into the Comp Plan. Mr. Foley stated that this is an
emerging issue, and would probably end up moving from a Comp Plan principle into some actions within
strategic plans, the budget, and so forth.
Ms. Mallek noted that the parks representatives from both the City and the County would be at
the meeting, and perhaps she and Ms. Palmer could come back with a few sentences to consider, or the
Board could simply go with what it already had.
Ms. Echols asked if Supervisors wanted to spend any time on prioritizing or wait until everything
was done.
Ms. Mallek suggested Supervisors take the pages home and prioritize. She noted that she was
not prepared to debate the order of priorities.
Ms. McKeel asked if it was really necessary for Supervisors to prioritize at all.
Ms. Mallek said staff probably needed some kind of direction as to where to start.
Mr. Cilimberg suggested the Board get through this meeting and the next month and see what it
considers to be the priority strategies. He said staff would then ask the Board to identify the things staff
would need to focus on in the next five years, before the update of the plan again, and that was where
Supervisors might want to establish action items.
Ms. Palmer said it would be helpful to have all of these priorities together to understand what
money was attached to them.
Ms. Mallek noted that this was the vision, and the money is addressed elsewhere.
Mr. Foley said the Comp Plan sets the broadest vision for what the County does, and that then
needs to work its way to something more actionable. He said, in the Strategic Plan, the Board identified
natural resources as one of its priority eight or nine goals. He stated that everything under that particular
goal right now is to finish the Comp Plan, because staff has no direction until that is done. Mr. Foley said
this would at least give some direction to the strategic plan being amended for that two to three -year
period, and it surely would not get lost because the Board had already identified it as a strategic priority.
Ms. Echols said, regarding Chapter Four – Historical, Cultural and Scenic Resources – the only
information she received was from a Board member who wondered whether or not they could add a
statement about Monticello in the section related to Monticello. She said the reason why this was not
quite an edit in the document was because of the amount of time the Planning Commission spent on this
particular paragraph. She stated that Commissioners wordsmithed the paragraph quite a lot, and she did
not feel comfortable making that change.
The Board agreed.
Ms. Mallek said Page 5.15 in the redline alluded to the fact that the County used to have scenic
road zoning regulations that had setbacks, but those seemed to be washed away when the Entrance
Corridor came in and where the setback was urban. She noted that the County used to have a 150-foot
setback in the rural area for rural scenic roads. She stated that she had asked Ms. Echols what had
happened, and how to get back to where those regulations were before. Ms. Mallek said the EC
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regulations supposedly replaced the scenic road ones for the four main roads but, for all the other scenic
roads in the County, there is no protection beyond 15 feet.
Ms. Echols clarified that, on Page 5.14, objective 7, there is a recommendation to pursue
additional scenic road designations to promote tourism and maintain the visual quality of the sceni c
roads. She said the County had scenic road regulations which were replaced by the Entrance Corridor,
and the state still has the scenic road and byway designations, noting that not all the roads that are state
scenic byways or something else are in the Entrance Corridor. Ms. Echols said what Ms. Mallek was
referring to are the roads that would not qualify as Entrance Corridor roads and wondering whether or not
those roads should receive some level of protection. She stated that, in terms of the effectiveness of the
EC guidelines on the roads that are in the corridor and are also scenic, there was a recommendation to
look at that and see if those guidelines were effective enough, but what Ms. Mallek was talking about
were the roads that did not qualify as ECs. Ms. Echols noted that strategies 7a and 8a recommend
“reviewing the EC guidelines for effectiveness and protecting the integrity of exceptionally scenic EC road
corridors such as Route 250 East, Route 250 West, and Route 22/231.”
Ms. Palmer asked what the downside would be to look at other roads.
Ms. Mallek said it was more of a policy decision as opposed to individual roads to be considered.
She said what raised her concerns was the text on page 5.8, which states, “EC regulations do not specify
a setback, whereas scenic highway zoning regulations require a 150-foot setback. In this regard, EC
regulations provide more flexibility, but may overlook an important technique for visual protection.”
Ms. Echols suggested either add a strategy which says ‘study whether or not this is needed’ or
add it one of the other strategies.
Ms. Dittmar said she mentioned earlier that she was very interested in not making any decisions
or trying to introduce any policy about this, but she wanted to make sure the Comp Plan allowed the
Board to look at how it might help historic structures have some financial viability without opening up a
huge problem. She wondered if it might be possible to keep something in there, study it, and allow for the
possibility for future investigation.
Ms. Mallek said the VCCA discussion seemed to already cover that, which was an example of a
very limited approach that could be done to provide uses for these kinds of things.
Ms. Dittmar asked if there was some way to address this issue without a major Comp Plan
revision, and asked if there was some way to provide an avenue to simply look at it.
Ms. Echols noted that this was addressed in the historic preservation plan, where there was a lot
more detail and, while it was not a specific strategy, it was in the discussion of things that needed to
happen for historic resources.
Ms. Dittmar said she was talking about the Comp Plan, not something else that needed
referencing.
Ms. Echols said, if the Board wanted to move it up in terms of visibility, staff could do that with
alternative uses. She stated that there are some references in the Rural Area chapter which speaks
about historic resources and their viability. She said it is also reflected in the historic preservation
chapter. Ms. Echols said it seemed that Ms. Dittmar’s question related to what uses would be
appropriate.
Ms. Dittmar explained that the Comp Plan only looks at the crossroads communities, but there
are a lot of historic structures which could be falling down.
Ms. Mallek said, as Ms. Echols mentioned, there was good discussion in the historic preservation
plan, and suggested pulling a paragraph out of that.
Ms. Dittmar asked if staff could possibly pull out some language that would be usable. Ms.
Echols explained that the crossroads section was really about what uses were appropriate in historic
structures, but the historic preservation plan is part of the Comp Plan and is in the appendix, however, if
the Board wanted to elevate it, staff could pull it out of the historic preservation plan and put it in the
Comp Plan. She said there was work being done on how to preserve those resources, much of which
was being done by the Historic Preservation Committee and one of its strategies is for more work to be
done to document buildings prior to demolition, along with outreach to landowners to educate them about
opportunities.
Ms. Dittmar said she would like to ask staff to help her with this language because she did not
have enough background. She added that she did not want to lose the opportunity for five years and
possibly miss an opportunity to study this further or have creative ideas brought forward.
Mr. Cilimberg asked if Ms. Dittmar was referring to methods to enhance or achieve economic
viability and historic structures options/possibilities which ensure their preservation. He said, if the Board
wanted to focus on that as part of the Comp Plan, it would also signal the Historic Preservation
Committee that this was something it should look at, perhaps ahead of some of the other things that were
in its overall plan.
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Ms. Mallek stated that the focus is to provide information to the owner, especially new owners
who end up with a property, and to give them all the resources available to help with funding, tax credits,
and other benefits for preservation.
Ms. Dittmar asked if applicants were encouraged to talk to Monticello when they were coming
before the Board with a project in the viewshed, and whether that would be reported back to the Board.
Ms. Mallek said the Board talked about that in great detail, and directed staff to explain to
applicants that there should be correspondence with Monticello.
Ms. Echols said strategy 5c asks that applicants consider impacts on the viewshed and
encourages them to pursue mitigation measures that are in keeping with the Comp Plan, but the only way
to know if they have done anything is to ask Monticello about it. She stated that staff has been directed to
report on how it meets the goals, objectives and strategies of the Comp Plan, and how it affects the
Monticello viewshed with those impacts being part of the staff reports provided to the Commission and
the Board.
Ms. Echols reviewed the strategies for the Chapter, stating that enhanced activities would include
additional assistance with documentation of buildings prior to demolition, which was being done by the
Historic Preservation Committee; more outreach to landowners; giving education programs to the public;
collaborating with the City and UVA and anyone else doing heritage tourism; and pursuing additional
measures to reduce light pollution. She stated that new things would be to rehire a historic preservation
planner; considering whether to adopt local historic district regulations; developing an education program;
partnering with the City on development of a single map, which came out of the Livability Project as being
really important; getting the Monticello viewshed on the County’s GIS web application; supporting
legislation for scenic tourist enhancement overlay; coordinating with the City and UVA on how Entrance
Corridors could be enhanced, including ways to improve consistency of guidelines for users; pursuing the
scenic road designations; and updating the EC guidelines, with development of corridor -specific
guidelines and consideration of designating more Entrance Corridors.
Ms. McKeel said the Entrance Corridors and guidelines would be a great topic for the Planning
and Coordination Council (PACC) meetings with the City and UVA.
Mr. Foley said this was a great example of how the Comp Plan ends up moving to a place where
there are some actionable things. He stated that the PACC-TECH Committee usually starts looking at
some of these things, develops them a little bit and then, by the time it gets to PACC, it has good
information around it. Mr. Foley noted that, at the May PACC meeting, they would talk about topics for
the future.
Ms. Echols said other new initiatives include reviewing scenic stream regulations, which are not in
synch with the Water Protection Ordinance; looking at additional ways to protect more scenic views; dark
skies initiatives; and education.
Ms. Echols stated that, regarding the Economic Development chapter, the only topic that came
from Board members was whether or not industries and businesses that sup ported recycling should be
added as targeted industries. She said, currently, economic development staff supports sustainabilit y in a
number of different ways and, if the Board wanted to do anything dramatically different for recycling
businesses, staff would add a strategy. She said, if it rose to the level of wanting to be a target industry,
staff’s recommendation would be to go back and look at the Target Industry Study and see if it met some
of the goals for target industries, along with what else the Board might want to do. Ms. Echols said it also
might be a discussion to have with the new Economic Development Director.
Ms. Palmer said she had brought that up, but never with the expectation of it being a target
industry, because the County is not anywhere near that level.
Mr. Foley responded that target industries were usually very broad rather than very specific, done
through an assessment of strengths and weaknesses of the community and, while this probably does not
rise to that level, it was something worth noting in the Plan.
Ms. Echols stated that it might be possible to include some things related to sustainability in terms
of promoting businesses in the community but, if there was something more specific about how to provide
support to recycling businesses, economic developers would need to know.
Ms. Palmer said, in brainstorming things that could happen here, there was some discussion
about the wine industry and wine-bottle making from recycled glass. She said she hoped the Board
would not lose those possibilities but staff’s wording seemed to focus more on things like helping
businesses to do recycling.
Ms. Echols said staff could look to see if there was some place to include how the County is
supportive of those businesses and industries.
Ms. Echols stated that other initiatives in Economic Development included hiring an Economic
Development Director, which is already being done; monitoring the strategic plan to make sure that
workforce needs were being addressed; assessing land availability and needs while looking into
proactively rezoning lands; and increasing workforce readiness. Ms. Echols stated that the only new
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program was something that came out of the old Comp Plan, and that was the rural support program,
which was also in the Rural Area chapter recommendations.
Ms. Echols began the discussion of the Rural Areas chapter, and said the only issue coming from
the Board on the rural areas had to do with whether or not there was a need to increase the bar for
conservation easement acceptance with the Public Recreation Facilities Authority (PFRA).
Ms. Mallek said this issue came up on one property where people have an easement and
decided they wanted to take on a big commercial operation, which would need to be discussed by the
Board as a whole so as to give direction on how those easements should be maintained. She said there
has been a lot of discussion in the state over the last several years regarding the Chesapeake Bay and
the watershed implementation plans. She noted that all of those high performance bars would help the
County as a whole if it was doing the best it could with each individual easement site it had influence
over. Ms. Mallek said, if the Board were to discuss anything, it should be considering having BMP
requirements for participation in easements.
Ms. Palmer asked if the County currently does not disallow large industrial operations.
Ms. Mallek responded that apparently it does not. She said the whole point with the farm
wineries is that they grow the grand m ajority of materials they need for the production onsite and, when
there is no possibility of that, it did not seem they should qualify for a processing business. She said staff
could check with the PRFA to see whether this has been resolved as it was very riled up about it for a
while.
Ms. Echols said staff could include a sentence which suggests that, if there were issues or
problems with the standards for accepting conservation easements, further research should be done.
Ms. Mallek said the statement could possibly state that staff should investigate the current status
of performance bars to determine whether that was sufficient. She said laying down the ground rules
ahead of time rather than waiting for a complaint would be to the County’s advantage.
Ms. Echols said another suggestion from Ms. Mallek talked about the consideration of new uses
in the rural area, and what staff tried to do was to emphasize that new uses would not interfere with
agricultural and forestal type activities. She explained that Ms. Mallek wanted to add “or residents’ quality
of life,” but staff had hesitation about that because the County was trying to ensure that rural areas were
not residential zones and were not intended primarily for residential use, although there were existing
residents there.
Ms. Mallek said her focus was consideration of the people who lived on the farms and were
operating them, not people living in rural subdivisions, so she would remove her suggestion as she
agreed the County did not want to detract from the primary function of rural areas being agriculture and
forestry.
Ms. Echols said the recommended enhancements for this chapter were more funding or a more
stable, dedicated funding source for Acquisition of Conservation Easements (ACE); promoting the reuse
of historic buildings to support rural area uses; rural design standards; new projects such as the rural
support program; ways to support the horse industry; changes to the zoning ordinance for distribution
facilities for local agricultural processes; amending the zoning ordinance to be clear on what is a home
occupation and what is not a home occupation in the rural area; studying whether or not to allow
landscape materials and services in the rural area; studying transfer of development rights (TDR) options;
considering changing the zoning ordinance for residential uses and modifying it to see if the County could
have fewer residential uses without reducing de velopment rights. She stated that, for crossroads
communities which are in the existing Comp Plan, the first step was to identify those communities, then
meet with them to discuss the most appropriate uses, before changing the zoning ordinance. She said
other additions were considering the zoning ordinance changes for community centers, restaurants and
churches to by-right in crossroads communities. Ms. Echols said the Board had already discussed
changing the zoning ordinance to allow for resident artist communities, and additional recommendations
were to review the zoning regulations for recreational use updates, looking to Shadwell for appropriate
levels of operations, and developing an informational campaign for rural area property owners, realtors
and prospective buyers about the County’s expectations for the rural area.
Ms. McKeel asked if the County had identified appropriate home occupations for the development
areas, since it was mentioned here for rural areas. She said she would be interested in adding that
because she has received many calls from constituents who felt that some home occupations were not
appropriate in older neighborhoods.
Ms. Mallek said those activities must be within the building, and the big problem in the urban
districts has been that people have been doing their home occupations in their yards.
Ms. McKeel said her concern has to do with what is on the books now and if it is still appropriate
for the development areas.
Ms. Echols made a note of that for the Development Area chapter.
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Ms. Palmer said she did not remember where the Board had left off on the restaurant discussion,
however, she recalled that Supervisors were only considering restaurants in crossroads communities for
existing buildings.
Mr. Cilimberg said that was correct.
Mr. Boyd said, if TDRs were going to be referenced in the Comp Plan, staff should reference the
extensive report on TDRs which was recently done.
Ms. Echols stated that she would be working to get all of the chapters updated by the Board’s
March meeting. She said she would provide Supervisors with a staff report on this as well as working on
the Woolen Mills item.
The Board thanked her for her work, and complimented her on the redline versions along the
way.
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Agenda Item. No. 4. From the Board: Matters not Listed on the Agenda.
Mr. Boyd said he wanted to mention the Places 29 item which would be on the agenda for the
following night. He noted that he was not aware that Mr. Sheffield would not be present.
Mr. Sheffield said he understood the urgency, as Mr. Boyd’s discussion was being driven by the
upcoming February 18 meeting of the Commonwealth Transportation Board (CTB).
Ms. Dittmar apologized for putting this item on the February 11 agenda.
Mr. Sheffield asked Mr. Boyd if he had any clarity on what his motion would be.
Mr. Boyd said his hope was to be able to direct the Metropolitan Policy Organization (MPO)
ahead of the CTB meeting, and the intent was to allow the MPO time to do a small area plan of that
particular intersection before building a grade-separated interchange. He said his intent now was more to
indicate to the MPO that the Board would like it to be re-sequenced, and to buy them time to do that. He
noted that the CTB was approving a six-year plan and, in looking at the calendar of projects, it could be
rearranged. Mr. Boyd said he found it interesting that $42 million of the bypass expenditures were in
years 2018, 2019 and 2020, and he would reach out to Mr. DeNunzio for an answer on that.
Mr. Sheffield said he was disappointed that he would not be able to attend the meeting, but he
would accept it along with other criticisms dealing with this project.
Ms. Mallek said, while the Board talked about this item the previous week, there was no motion to
put it on the agenda, and asked how it could be added to the agenda.
Ms. Dittmar said she thought it did not make it into the tentative agenda, so it would need to be
added when the Board adopted the final agenda on Wednesday. She explained that she was told by staff
that, since the Board asked by consensus for it to be added, it would go on there.
Mr. Foley suggested that Mr. Davis clarify the Board’s rules on this.
Mr. Davis said his understanding was that the item was on the February 4 agenda, and the Board
deferred it to the February 11 meeting, so it was added to the agenda by agreement of the Board to bring
any action on that item. He said, as part of the Board’s procedures, Supervisors adopt the final agenda at
the beginning of its meeting and, by a majority vote, any matter could be taken off or any matter could be
added if there was appropriate notice given or unanimous consent.
Ms. McKeel said Mr. Boyd’s motion on February 4 was about a small area plan, which she saw in
an email to the Board. She pointed out that a motion should not change two or three times without the
Board knowing what it would be voting on.
Mr. Boyd said he did not propose a specific motion.
Ms. McKeel said his email contained a motion, and stated that it had to be that same motion, or
there was not proper notice given. She commented that it seemed the Board was constantly adapting
and adjusting its guidelines.
Ms. Dittmar said Mr. Boyd could not single-handedly adjust procedures. She stated that this is
part of the problem she had with the whole idea that Supervisors had not followed its own process. She
said she did not recall a specific motion, but was aware that Mr. Boyd wanted to make a motion about a
small area plan.
Mr. Davis stated that the matter added to the agenda was an action item regarding the small area
plan relating to the Route 29 grade-separated interchange. He said his interpretation of the rules is that,
once an item is added as an action item, the Board is not constrained as to what action it can take so, as
long as it was germane to the action item, it was properly before the Board. He added that, if Mr. Boyd
had offered a motion and it had failed, another Board member could ha ve offered another motion
germane to that topic so the Board could have taken action on that item. Mr. Davis said he did not
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believe the Board wanted to get so constrained that they could not do business. He added that, currently,
the rules of procedure allow for some flexibility.
Mr. Boyd said his motion would be to allow time to conduct a small area plan, and recommended
a particular method by which to do that plan.
Ms. Mallek asked if he meant the resequencing. Mr. Boyd responded that he did.
Ms. Mallek said that was not mentioned at all in his January 29 email.
Ms. Dittmar asked Mr. Boyd to bring his motion.
Mr. Sheffield said he would provide the Chair with some of his thoughts, and did not want anyone
to think he was dodging the issue. He stated that he thought this was going to be added to the next
meeting agenda which would have been today’s meeting but apparently, to everyone else, that meant the
February 11 meeting.
Mr. Boyd said it sounded as though there were communications problems all around.
Mr. Sheffield said he would try to tune into the meeting that evening on his IPhone, so that he
could at least listen.
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Ms. Mallek announced that on, September 19-27, 2015, the World Road Race International
Championships would be held in Richmond, and she has been asking the Charlottesville/Albemarle
Convention and Visitors’ Bureau (CACVB) representatives for 18 months with no response about it. She
said she would like to have the Board consider expressing to the County’s CACVB representatives that
they need to take affirmative steps to help the community welcom e people. Ms. Mallek said there would
likely be three Virginians on the U.S. team, other communities around the Commonwealth are getting
involved with this event by hosting all kinds of activities, and it was making her quite angry that Albemarle
was not yet organized for visitors.
Ms. Dittmar clarified that Ms. Catlin was the Board’s designee on the CACVB Board.
Ms. Mallek emphasized that there were several other appointees on that Board as well.
Mr. Foley said he could not speak for the others, but he knows that Ms. Catlin is watching this
event very closely.
Ms. Mallek said Ms. Catlin was one of 11 members, and she was already working extremely hard,
so the CACVB must somehow break this stalemate.
Mr. Foley said Ms. Catlin would bring this up at the next Board meeting.
Ms. Mallek said she would like some feedback on what the CACVB is already doing, because it is
a question she has been asking for months.
Mr. Foley stated that Ms. Catlin could provide an update at the February 11 meeting.
Ms. Mallek said the County had 20 years to prepare for the Civil War Sesquicentennial and, to
her knowledge, nothing had been done on that either.
Ms. Dittmar said Scottsville had some planned events for that.
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Ms. McKeel announced that she would be holding a town hall meeting at the Meadows
Presbyterian Church on Angus Road on February 12, for anyone in the community who was interested in
the Best Buy Ramp. She noted that, at 7:30 p.m., there would be a presentation from VDOT on the
project and that police and fire representatives would also be on hand to answer questions.
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Mr. Sheffield said he would like to remind the Board to adjourn to February 18, which was the
CTB meeting. He noted that more than two Board members would likely attend that meeting.
Mr. Foley said he had agendas to share with the Board for the CTB meeting on February 18 and,
on February 17, the Route 29 update would be given by Philip Shucet, which is the work session part of
CTB, usually spanning a two-day period.
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Agenda Item. No. 5. From the County Executive: Report on Matters not Listed on the Agenda.
Mr. Foley said the Board had talked about the reassessment notices which were changed this
year. He stated that the manner in which the state prescribed how the County do this led to some
confusion, and noted that staff probably could have done a better job in the cover letter of explaining this.
He stated that the way the County tried to express the change on the notice was as a percentage and,
unfortunately, the computer system would not convert to a percent, so it made it a decimal. Mr. Foley
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said Supervisors have only seen five or ten emails thus far, but could see more. He noted that staff
created something that was fairly foolproof with graphic elements which explain how the state laid out the
notices and what those mean, along with corrections that were controllable on the County’s end. He
suggested the Board forward messages to County Assessor, Bob Willingham, with a copy to Bill Letteri,
however, if Supervisors would rather reply directly to constituents, they could certainly do that with cc’s to
both as well.
Ms. Dittmar reported that her Village of Rivanna Citizens Advisory Committee meeting had been
rescheduled in order to get a larger room, because there were a lot of residents who had tax questions.
She said Mr. Willingham was scheduled to attend to help answer those questions.
Mr. Foley said staff would monitor the situation to see if there was need for a newspaper ad with
additional information. He added that information has already been added to the website to help explain
it to the public, although it may need to be highlighted more on the home page.
Mr. Foley reminded the Board to adjourn its February 11 meeting to the CTB meeting but, rather
than adjourn to the budget meeting the following day, it might be easier to schedule a special meeting.
Mr. Davis said, since February 19 was just the budget presentation hearing with no additional
business scheduled, it was fairly easy to do a special meeting notice.
Board members agreed.
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Agenda Item. No. 6. Adjourn.
At 8:44 p.m., Mr. Boyd moved to adjourn the Board meeting to February 11, 2015 at 4:45 p.m.
Ms. Mallek seconded the motion.
Roll was called and the motion passed by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Ms. Dittmar, Ms. Mallek, Ms. McKeel, Ms. Palmer, Mr. Sheffield and Mr. Boyd.
NAYS: None.
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Chairman
Approved by Board
Date: 07/01/2015
Initials: EWJ