HomeMy WebLinkAboutSDP201800070 Correspondence Final Site Plan and Comps. 2019-03-19 Christopher Perez
From: Jonathan Showalter <Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 7:55 PM
To: Frank Pohl
Cc: jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com;jhulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com; Christopher
Perez; Brad Nichols;Tyler Gifford
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments - Final Site Plan
Frank,
Thank you for your email.
We discussed with Jim Veale the President of Lighthouse the owner in a meeting this morning. There are a few items
the owner would like to clarify to make sure we have a clear final solution before they move forward with additional
survey and design necessary to pursue this option.
Do you all have any meeting slots open Thursday so we can all discuss and make sure we are on the same page?
Thank you,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 3:57 PM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc:jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com;jhulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com; Christopher Perez
<cperez@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
I visited the site yesterday and spoke with Chris about this further. I also spoke with Brook this afternoon to go over my
thoughts.
Regarding the site,the option with the piped storm is not acceptable because the slope is too steep,the slope has
exposed rock, and there is a better option, which is a variation of the 2nd option.
The second option location is preferred because I estimate the lower portion of the slope to be roughly 4:1 and about
30-ft or so of slightly steeper grade at the top but it can be worked from the top and bottom.
The variation is that if you want to avoid a special use permit, both the stormwater and the sanitary lateral will need to
be in a new easement on the Lighthouse property. You cannot utilize the neighbor's concrete swale because a special
use permit would be needed for the sanitary lateral.The stormwater is the means to avoiding the need for the special
use permit since it will be conveying stormwater from the public right-of-way.
I've estimated that a maximum 25-ft easement is required for these two utilities.The storm should be on grade (not
piped) and grouted riprap to control velocities. 5-ft of separation between the two is all that is needed since this is a
private 6-inch sewer lateral. 10-ft on each side of each utility from the centerline.You do not need manholes for a 6-inch
service lateral except at the connection with the RWSA line—a wye with a cleanout can be used at each change in
direction instead of manholes. Anchor blocks may also be required.
Note that the channel outlet needs to be to a channel as the limits of analysis for channel protection does not stop at
the 100-yr floodplain.Also,the 100-yr floodplain is not where the 1% rule is applied,the 1% rule ends within either a
channel or stream (in this case the stream). A channel needs to be provided to the stream to prevent erosion.There is a
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small channel at the bottom of the hbor's existing concrete ditch. If you wa use that,you will need to show it
will convey the additional flows without erosion.
Please confirm that the existing contours you are using are actual surveyed contours. If not, actual surveyed contours
will be needed for this design.
I am happy to discuss.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11,2019 8:31 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<diames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;John Hulburt
<jhulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com>;James Veale<jvealeCa@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford<tyler@martinhorn.com>; brook@digsinc.com
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Frank,
I wanted to check back in on this and see if you had a chance to visit the site and make a determination of whether or
not the sewer/storm layouts shown will require a special use permit.
Please let me know if it would be helpful for us to meet you out there or if there is any other information you need or
questions you have.
I know the owner is eager to find a path forward.
Thank you,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent:Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:58 AM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;John Hulburt
<jhulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com>;James Veale<iveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>; brook@digsinc.com
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
Before I make further comment, I am going to visit the site again to look at this more closely myself. Give me a few days
and I'll reply further.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
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County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@'timmons.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 5:25 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;John Hulburt
<ihulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com>;James Veale<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford<tyler@martinhorn.com>; brook@digsinc.com
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Frank,
We have been working with Martin Horn and coordinating with Brook Wood of digs to discuss means and methods for
installations of the two options in the slopes. Based on a conversation and site visit and coordinating with Digs we feel
the update attached exhibits are an accurate reflection of the disturbance required for the two options.
Please let us know if this gives you the information you need to make the determination that the sewer line installation
falls within the disturbance required by right for the storm and therefore the sewer will not need a special use
permit. Or please let us know if you have any questions.
Thank you for your coordination on this,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent:Tuesday, February 19, 2019 7:09 PM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>;John Hulburt<ihulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Johnathan,
I am going to go ahead and cancel tomorrow's meeting. In the effort to keep this moving forward, please refer to page
15 of the County Design Standards Manual.
http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/forms center/departments/community development/forms/design standa
rds manual/Albemarle County Design Standards Manual 2015-04-25 draft.pdf
The manual includes a sketch and calculation for a typical utility easement. If you are seeking something wider,
justification is required. Note that minimizing impacts to the preserved slopes is required. I will say I have never seen an
easement this wide for utilities this shallow. Having a work area the width of a two-lane road (25-ft)on each side of the
trench is not typical.
If you'd like to discuss, please let me know. I think we can go over this with a phone call.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
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401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent:Tuesday, February 19, 2019 9:28 AM
To: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford<tyler@martinhorn.com>;
Duane Oot<ootduane@gmail.com>;John Hulburt<jhulburt@lighthouseinstruments.com>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Frank,
Talking with the owner we are watching the weather and see there is a chance of snow and ice tomorrow.
Is there a backup time we can set up for Thursday in the event tomorrow is not possible?
Thank you,
Jonathan
From:Jonathan Showalter
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 6:04 PM
To: 'Frank Pohl' <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Frank,
Thank you for your email and for being willing to meet. Wednesday at 3:30 works well for us.
We will come down to community development.
Look forward to talking to you then,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent:Thursday, February 14, 2019 8:39 AM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
I think it would be better if we discussed this in person. Please let me know when you and the owner are available to
meet. We usually meet on Thursdays, but knowing how important this issue is, we can meet as soon as you can.
Here are some times that I have available:
- Today at 3:30 or 4.
- Tomorrow any time after 10:30.
- Tuesday 2/19 at 4.
- Wednesday 2/20 after 3.
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' Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:16 PM
To: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;James Veale
<jveale@lighthouseinstruments.com>; Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>;Tyler Gifford<tyler@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
David and Chris,
Please see the two attached details that demonstrate that the proposed private sewer lateral can be installed parallel to
the either the ex.channel or proposed stormwater pipe without requiring additional disturbance beyond that which
would be required for the public storm conveyance system.
For the sewer we plan to install it per the attached ACSA detail which will keep the depth of excavation for the sewer to
be much less than what was shown in the previous designs for the sewer line.
Lighthouse is still determining which of the two routings for the storm and sewer the will proceed with based off
conversations with the neighboring land owners.
We have been coordinating with Martin Horn the contractor and based on the steep nature of the slope they believe to
maintain or replace the ex. channel or to install the proposed storm pipe they will need 25' of room on either side of the
trenching or channel to allow for equipment access, circulation, slope benching and stockpile of material. This is
reflected in the updated limits of disturbance on each PDF.
The first section on each page shows the disturbance that would be necessary to install the storm pipe or channel
system. The second shows how the sewer trenching disturbance fits within the total corridor of disturbance for the
storm pipe or channel.
We feel these on these exhibits demonstrate that either routing option will not require additional disturbance outside of
the by-right disturbance for either the proposed storm pipe or the ex. corridor of disturbance required to replace or
maintain the ex. concrete channel.
Please let us know if you concur and if per the emails below you can confirm we will not need a special use permit for
the installation of the sewer lateral for this project. Or please let us know if you have any comments or questions.
Thank you,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent:Tuesday,January 29, 2019 8:10 AM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
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Jonathan,
David will be reviewing this from here on out, please submit everything to his attention if it is VSMP related. If site plan
related, it should be directed to Chris,with David copied.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent: Monday,January 28, 2019 5:45 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Frank,
Sorry I missed this before sending my last email. Thank you very much for your coordination and determination on this
item.
We will keep this in mind as update the storm/sewer design and provide a detail for your further review as soon as we
are able for the public storm easement and the sewer lateral disturbance.
Thank you,
Jonathan
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday,January 28, 2019 4:52 PM
To:Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames2@albemarle.org>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
I spoke with Chris with the following determination.The private sewer lateral can be located within the 'public' storm
easement with a minimum 5-ft of separation between the two. However,you will need to provide a cross section on the
plans to show land disturbance is not required beyond the limits of the easement.
Note that the adjacent land owner will need to be a party to the public drainage deed of easement and plat.There will
also need to be a deed of easement and plat for the private sewer lateral, but the County will not be a part of that
deed/plat.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
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County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Christopher Perez
Sent: Monday,January 28, 2019 11:15 AM
To: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>;Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<diames2@albemarle.org>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
Attached are the County review comments for the proposal.
Christopher Perez 1 Senior Planner
Department of Community Development 1County of Albemarle,Virginia
401 McIntire Road l Charlottesville,VA 22902
434.296.5832 ext.3443
From: Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday,January 28, 2019 8:17 AM
To: Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>;Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<diames2@albemarle.org>;Tyler Gifford <tyler@martinhorn.com>; Brad Nichols
<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
Chris and I spoke and have the following determination.
1. Storm piping: since this includes runoff from the public right-of-way, it qualifies as a public facility and can be
routed through the critical slopes.The preserved slopes should be preserved to the maximum extent practicable
[3O.7.4.b.1.c(iii)], so it is expected that the existing outfall on the adjacent property will be utilized if possible.
2. Sanitary lateral:the lateral is private unless the ACSA accepts it. ACSA does not maintain private laterals and
utilities that are not maintained by the ACSA/RWSA(or some other public entity)are considered private and do
not meet the definition of a "necessary public facility." As we discussed in our meeting last week,the lateral can
be installed under the critical slopes by boring and encasing it in a sleeve.The sleeve will allow for replacement
of the lateral in the future as needed without disturbing the critical slopes. Boring the lateral under the critical
slopes shouldn't disturb the critical slopes and therefore does not require a special use permit(by-right). It was
also determined that using the neighbor's sanitary outfall is also allowed without the requirement for a special
use permit since it is serving an existing use and the disturbance was previously approved.
If you have any questions or comments, don't hesitate to let us know.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
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401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Christopher Perez
Sent: Monday,January 28, 2019 7:33 AM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<diames2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>;Tyler Gifford<tyler@martinhorn.com>;
Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
I'm back in the office after being out Thursday and Friday of last week.
I'll get with Frank today about your question.
Additionally, I hope to have the site plan review comments to you by COB today.
Christopher Perez I Senior Planner
Department of Community Development(County of Albemarle,Virginia
401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville,VA 22902
434.296.5832 ext.3443
From:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Sent: Friday,January 25, 2019 10:16 AM
To: Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<diames@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>; Tyler Gifford <tvler@martinhorn.com>;
Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Chris,
Just left you a message to follow up on the question below. Please let us know you response as soon as you are able.
Also as far as the review of the plans resubmitted December 10th, I see we have received David's comments on the Road
and VSMP Plan and also ACSA's comments. When do you expect the remaining VDOT and Site plan approval letters or
comments to be ready?
Thank you,
Jonathan
From:Jonathan Showalter
Sent:Thursday,January 17, 2019 5:22 PM
To: 'Christopher Perez'<cperez@albemarle.org>
Cc: David James<diamesc albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl<fpohl@albemarle.org>; 'Tyler Gifford' <tyler@martinhorn.com>;
Brad Nichols<brad@martinhorn.com>
Subject: RE: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Chris,
Due to some difficulties in getting an easement from parcel 77-7 to the north, we are exploring the options to get an
easement from parcel 77-9A to the east.
Meeting with David and Frank to discuss the stormwater outfall the sewer connection to the downhill RSWA sewer main
also came up. The attached exhibit shows one possible routing for that connection. However, all of this is very
approximate pending survey and further design.
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The main question is whether the proposed sewer lateral from the site through the preserved slopes is considered a by
right use or whether it requires a special use permit. Up to this point from the comments and the initial conversations
we were under the impression this is a by right use not requiring a special use permit.
It seems it should be by right either under the section necessary public facilities, necessary to allow the use of the lot as
to not cause unnecessary hardship or maybe under the distribution facility section.
The site is separated from the sewer main by the preserved slopes so to not allow the sewer lateral to connect through
the preserved slopes by right would leave the owner of the parcel no option to develop the parcel other than to get a
special use permit.
Please let us know if you can give us a determination on this situation or if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Jonathan
Jonathan Showalter, PE
Project Engineer
TIMMONS GROUP I www.timmons.com
608 Preston Avenue, Suite 200 I Charlottesville, VA 22903
Office: 434.327.1681 I Fax: 434.295.8317
jonathan.showaltertimmons.com
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From: Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>
Sent:Wednesday, November 07, 2018 8:01 AM
To:Jonathan Showalter<Jonathan.Showalter@timmons.com>
Cc: David James<djames@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Jonathan,
Below are RWSA review comments for Lighthouse.
thanks
From:Victoria Fort<vfort@rivanna.org>
Sent:Tuesday, November 06, 2018 8:11 PM
To:Christopher Perez<cperez@albemarle.org>
Cc: Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthority.org>
Subject: 2018-070 Lighthouse Instruments- Final Site Plan
Chris,
RWSA has reviewed the final site plan for Lighthouse Instruments as prepared by Timmons Group and dated 7/10/2018,
with most recent revision dated 9/13/2018 and has the following comments:
Sheet C4.0:
1. Include the following RWSA sewer connection notes:
"All connections to RWSA manholes shall be watertight and made with a flexible rubber boot. All coring methods,
the coring contractor and all materials for construction shall be approved by RWSA in writing prior to
construction. RWSA Engineering Staff shall be present for all cores into the manholes. Bypass pumping may be
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required at the sole ?tion of RWSA staff. Grouting of the manhol ich or interior may be required,at the
sole discretion of RWSA staff,for a smooth transition of flow. Existing manholes shall be backfilled to original
grade to the satisfaction of RWSA. Contact RWSA Engineering a minimum of 3 business days in advance to
schedule a core of a manhole."
2. Show RWSA 30' sanitary sewer easement on this sheet(D.B. 369 P. 248).
3. RWSA needs to see the profiles for the proposed storm drains, since the pipe is shown to cross the existing
RWSA sewer main adjacent to MCI-MH-36 (between storm structures 102 and 104). RWSA will require a
minimum vertical separation of 18" between the existing sewer main and the proposed storm sewer line.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you,
Victoria
Victoria Fort, P.E.
Senior Civil Engineer
Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority
695 Moores Creek Lane
Charlottesville,VA 22902
(0):(434)977-2970 ext. 205 ,
(F):(434)295-1146
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