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From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 3:18 PM
To: 'Bob Pingry'
Cc: Nena Harrell
Subject: ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP:CoA attached
Attachments: ARB2018-77 CoA with approved drawings.pdf
Dear Nena and Bob,
Please find your CoA for the Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan and ULC Sign attached. I have also approved
Building Permit B2018-1311S for the ULC sign and have routed it to the next reviewer.
Please submit a separate sign application for the Goodwill signage at your convenience.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:29 PM
To: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
In addition, remove all references to"Goodwill" or"Donation Center" on pages 3,4,5, 6, and 7.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, February 13, 2019 11:33 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
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Heather McMahon
From: Bob Pingry <bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 5:02 PM
To: Heather McMahon
Subject: Fwd:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
Attachments: 30676_PINGRY GANDER_BUILDING C_CSP_PROOF2.pdf
I think this gets it Heather. We cannot"shift"the"Goodwill"logo due to existing electrical and likely fading of
the area covered by the existing sign.
Forwarded message
From:Casey Kilmartin<CKilmartin@gropen.com>
Date:Wed, Feb 13,2019 at 4:33 PM
Subject: Re:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
To: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
HI Bob,
Here is the revised Layout with dimensions removed, notes added,etc.
Have a good evening, and just let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks,
CASEY J.KILMARTIN
434-295-1924(105)
ckilmartinAgropen.com
1766 Scottsville Road I Charlottesville,VA 22902
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On Feb 13, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>wrote:
Casey:
Looks like a few more changes. Sorry for the back and forth here. Need it ASAP.
i
FROM HEATHER:
"There are still items on these revised drawings that have not addressed the comments I sent
you on 1/31/19, which all appear on the second page of the letter
(attached):
6. Consider revising architectural drawing sheet 1 created by Gropen to move the proposed logo
location in the center bay closer to the proposed sign location, where the cross beam of the porch
meets the central vertical beam.
7. Revise the notes on architectural drawing sheet 1 by Gropen to remove notes two and three.
8. Revise architectural drawing sheets 8 and 9 by Gropen to read "internally illuminated channel
letters"not"front-lit."Note that if you provide exact dimensions of these conceptual signs, those
are the standards that future sign applications for those locations will be held and compared to.
In addition, your revised A1.2 is so faint that it is nearly impossible to read; likely this is because
it's a photocopy or scan of a photocopy or scan. Please provide a darker image that is easier to
see.
Lastly, the CSP needs to name a blue and a red; there is some leeway when individual signs
come in — if they are close to the medium-grade blues and reds proposed in the CSP then they
will be approved. But, no, we cannot approve any red or any blue because that tantamount to
approving hundreds of shades that range from baby blue and pink to navy and scarlet. The
Pantone numbers need to remain in the revised CSP.
In addition, remove all references to "Goodwill" or"Donation Center" on pages 3,4,5, 6,and 7".
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 3:27 PM
To: 'Bob Pingry'
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
Attachments: ARB2018-77 sign app cofa requested changes.pdf
Hello Bob,
There are still items on these revised drawings that have not addressed the comments I sent you on 1/31/19,which all
appear on the second page of the letter
(attached):
6. Consider revising architectural drawing sheet 1 created by Gropen to move the proposed logo location in the center
bay closer to the proposed sign location,where the cross beam of the porch meets the central vertical beam.
7. Revise the notes on architectural drawing sheet 1 by Gropen to remove notes two and three.
8. Revise architectural drawing sheets 8 and 9 by Gropen to read"internally illuminated channel letters" not"front-
lit."Note that if you provide exact dimensions of these conceptual signs, those are the standards that future sign
applications for those locations will be held and compared to.
In addition,your revised A1.2 is so faint that it is nearly impossible to read; likely this is because it's a photocopy or scan
of a photocopy or scan. Please provide a darker image that is easier to see.
Lastly,the CSP needs to name a blue and a red;there is some leeway when individual signs come in—if they are close to
the medium-grade blues and reds proposed in the CSP then they will be approved. But, no,we cannot approve any red
or any blue because that tantamount to approving hundreds of shades that range from baby blue and pink to navy and
scarlet.The Pantone numbers need to remain in the revised CSP.
Please address the above comments and resend.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday, February 13,2019 11:33 AM
To: Heather McMahon <hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
Heather:
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See attached and let me know if this completes the items for the CSP. I can make further edits to the attached
document if needed. My only question is Gropen calls out for specific colors of blue and red instead of just
stating"blue"and"red" (with the exception of the red not allowed). My understanding is any color blue or red
(with the one excpetion for red)is allowed?
Forwarded message
From:Casey Kilmartin<CKilmartin@gropen.com>
Date:Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 4:57 PM
Subject: Re:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
To: Bob Pingry<bpingry@cshdevelopment.com>
Cc: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>,T.J. Ronayne<TRonavne@gropen.com>, Patrick Baran<pbaran@gropen.com>
Hello Bob,
Thanks for talking with me for a minute. Attached you will find the updated CSP drawing set.
Please let me know if you need any other edits before submittal.
Than you,
CASEY J. KILMARTIN
434-295-1924(105)
ckilmartin@cgropen.com
1766 Scottsville Road I Charlottesville,VA 22902
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On Feb 7,2019, at 8:22 PM, Bob Pingry<bpingrvPcshdevelopment.com>wrote:
Yes
On Thu, Feb 7,2019,5:02 PM Casey Kilmartin<CKilmartin@gropen.com>wrote:
Hello Bob,
We have been contacted by Goodwill to work on their sign package. Should we keep this update
separate from that job,as it pertains to the Comprehensive Sign Plan?Just let me know.
In the meantime I can work on updating the drawings to make the plan more generic per the notes
below. Hopefully I can get you something by early next week.
Thank you,
CASEY J.KILMARTIN
434-295-1924(105)
ckilmartin@gropen.com -
1766 Scottsville Road I Charlottesville,VA 22902
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Heather McMahon
From: Bob Pingry <bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, February 08,2019 11:09 AM
To: Heather McMahon
Cc: Pete; allen dahl; Hunter Call; ulcwww2@embarqmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Emailing: Sign NTC 02-08-19 FINAL
Attachments: Sign NTC 02-08-19 FINAL.pdf
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Heather
Let me know if you get the attached CSP revisions you requested. I have had issues forwarding attachments. I will
resend another way.
The Gander bldg sign exhibit is being revised by Gropen for delivery early next week.
Forwarded message
From:<ulcwww2@embarqmail.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 8,2019, 10:37 AM
Subject: Emailing:Sign NTC 02-08-19 FINAL
To: Bob Pingry<bobpingrv@gmail.com>
Cc:<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Good morning Bob
Thanks for all your help&here is the final. ( I hope)We made the changes
according to your redline & Nena said these two drawings need to go with
document .The drawings needed changes according to Heather letter received
on 2/6/19. Thanks again !
Best regards,
Pam Giglio for Nena Harrell
United Land Corp
434-975-3334
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Bob Pingry
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
Bob,
The ARB approved "red," "blue," and "white" as acceptable channel letter colors for the Northtown Center
Comprehensive Sign Plan. No specified shade or hue of blue or red were named,so that allows you a range of
possibilities. However, Pantone 485C has not been a permissible color/shade of red in the EC since an ARB action was
made in 2011;we are consistent with applying this prohibition in our sign review process.Your submittal package did
not include actual samples of the proposed 3M Cardinal Red and 3M Bristol Blue; I cannot verify from a color print-out
on the Gropen drawings whether that proposed red on the paper matches Pantone 485C—this is why I asked you to
revise those drawings to state the Pantone equivalents to 3M's Bristol Blue and Cardinal Red.So, if the Pantone
equivalent to 3M Cardinal Red is 485C or close,then no,that color is not allowed in the EC,and yes, Harbor Freight will
have to revise its standard color.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bpingry@cshdevelopment.com>
Sent:Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:25 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
•
Question on Graphic Colors.
Please cofirm:
My correspondence with you and Margaret are the Goodwill Blue and Harbor Freight'Red and White are approved
colors as specified on the Gander Sign Concept Plan we have provided,correct? This is a huge deal if not correct.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 12:45 PM Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>wrote:
Hello Bob,
I received your telephone message yesterday evening,and I understand that you are on vacation,so I'm responding by
email. I also prefer email communication so we can keep track of what's been said.
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Let me try to address the issues you brought up in your telephone message.
1. Goodwill sign.As I have stated before,this CSP application is not the approval for the Goodwill sign.The
Goodwill application must be made separately.To help you out, I will save a copy of the Gropen drawings that
show the Goodwill signage,but you still need to submit a separate application for the Goodwill sign.And this
should be done after the CSP is approved. I agree that approving the CSP as quickly as possible is to everyone's
advantage.
2. CSP criteria.The easiest way to address the changes to the criteria,sheet that I requested (numeral la—le) in
the letter sent 1-31-19(attached to this email) is to simply accept all of the track changes I made in the Word
document and send it back to me.
3. CSP drawings.Two reasons this project has become so complicated and has drug on for six months is that 1)
your submission has allowed individual signs(ULC, Burn Boot Camp,Goodwill, and now Harbor Freight)to drive
the CSP rather than vice-versa.The whole concept behind the creation of a CSP is that limits are named to
which individual signs must conform in the present and in the future.Therefore,the Gropen drawings that show
Goodwill signs should be revised to show generic signs.And 2) every time we get close to an approvable design,
a new sign (or renovation) is considered which throws everything into reconsideration. My recommendation is
to not consider Harbor Freight's sign right now.A separate application for the Harbor Freight sign will have to
be made in future.At the same time,the CSP that is approved (theoretically)will have to be revised and
amended to reflect the storefront renovations/that Harbor Freight is currently considering; at that time,the
size of the Harbor Freight sign can be evaluated. HOWEVER,just to make it clear:the Gropen elevations that
you have submitted show a sign at the end of the building that Harbor Freight is contemplating moving into as
max 3'tall;the side elevation is also 3'tall; and the 4'criteria in the CSP is lust for the central pavilion sign—not
for the other tenant signs. If you want to change that now,you will need to 1) update the CSP criteria; 2) revise
the elevations that Gropen created to show the height of the sign band area for the proposed tenant signs as
well as 3) revise the elevations that Gropen created to show a proposed sign height greater than 3'.All of this is
going to drag out the review process even longer.
My suggestion to you is to:
1. work on answering the requested changes in the letter I sent on 1-31-19
2. make the Gropen drawings for the CSP more conceptual, as per the comments in the letter sent on 1-31-19
3. submit an application for the Goodwill sign (I will save the drawings that I currently have for that)
4. cross the Harbor Freight bridge and the future need to revise the CSP when we come to it.
I'll be in the office most of today(I have a board meeting at 3:30) and tomorrow. I am out Friday through Tuesday next
week. Please call me if you have further questions.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Thursday, February 07,2019 1:33 PM
To: Bob Pingry
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
Hi Bob,
Great,glad we can come to a resolution on this. I will await revised drawings from Gropen and revised CSP language
from you when you get back from Mexico (enjoy).
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bpingry@cshdevelopment.com>
Sent:Thursday, February 07, 2019 1:20 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re:ARB2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
"Perfecto" Heather(we're in Mexico).
We will revise the letter and Gander sign plan with generic signage, Goodwill will apply for sign permit separately, HF will
apply for amendment after CSP approval.'
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019, 12:45 PM Heather McMahon <hmcmahon@albemarle.org>wrote:
Hello Bob,
I received your telephone message yesterday evening, and I understand that you are on vacation, so I'm responding by
email. I also prefer email communication so we can keep track of what's been said.
Let me try to address the issues you brought up in your telephone message.
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1. Goodwill sign.As I have stated before,this CSP application is not the approval for the Goodwill sign.The
Goodwill application must be made separately.To help you out, I will save a copy of the Gropen drawings that
show the Goodwill signage, but you still need to submit a separate application for the Goodwill sign.And this
should be done after the CSP is approved. I agree that approving the CSP as quickly as possible is to everyone's
advantage.
2. CSP criteria.The easiest way to address the changes to the criteria sheet that I requested (numeral la—le) in
the letter sent 1-31-19 (attached to this email)is to simply accept all of the track changes I made in the Word
document and send it back to me.
3. CSP drawings.Two reasons this project has become so complicated and has drug on for six months is that 1)
your submission has allowed individual signs(ULC, Burn Boot Camp,Goodwill,and now Harbor Freight)to drive
the CSP rather than vice-versa.The whole concept behind the creation of a CSP is that limits are named to
which individual signs must conform in the present and in the future.Therefore,the Gropen drawings that show
Goodwill signs should be revised to show generic signs.And 2)every time we get close to an approvable design,
a new sign(or renovation) is considered which throws everything into reconsideration. My recommendation is
to not consider Harbor Freight's sign right now.A separate application for the Harbor Freight sign will have to
be made in future.At the same time,the CSP that is approved (theoretically)will have to be revised and
amended to reflect the storefront renovations that Harbor Freight is currently considering; at that time,the
size of the Harbor Freight sign can be evaluated. HOWEVER,just to make it clear:the Gropen elevations that
you have submitted show a sign at the end of the building that Harbor Freight is contemplating moving into as
max 3'tall;the side elevation is also 3'tall; and the 4'criteria in the CSP is lust for the central pavilion sign—not
for the other tenant signs. If you want to change that now,you will need to 1) update the CSP criteria;2) revise
the elevations that Gropen created to show the height of the sign band area for the proposed tenant signs as
well as 3) revise the elevations that Gropen created to show a proposed sign height greater than 3'.All of this is
going to drag out the review process even longer.
My suggestion to you is to:
1. work on answering the requested changes in the letter I sent on 1-31-19
2. make the Gropen drawings for the CSP more conceptual,as per the comments in the letter sent on 1-31-19
3. submit an application for the Goodwill sign (I will save the drawings that I currently have for that)
4. cross the Harbor Freight bridge and the future need to revise the CSP when we come to it.
I'll be in the office most of today(I have a board meeting at 3:30) and tomorrow. I am out Friday through Tuesday next
week. Please call me if you have further questions.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Thursday,January 31,2019 5:49 PM
To: Bob Pingry
Subject: RE:CSP word file •
Attachments: ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED HNM edits.docx;ARB
COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED HNM edits.pdf;ARB2018-77 sign app cofa
requested changes.pdf
Bob,
Please find the letter requesting changes attached,as well as a Word document that has the `track changes'function to
illustrate suggested edits.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902 -
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Thursday,January 31, 2019 5:03 PM
To: Bob Pingry<bpingry@cshdevelopment.com>
Subject: RE:CSP word file
Yes, Bob,exactly—thank you.
I will be in touch shortly.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bpingry@cshdevelopment.com>
Sent:Thursday,January 31, 2019 4:55 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject:CSP word file
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Heather.
Is the attached what you are looking for to edit?
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Thursday,January 31,2019 3:31 PM
To: Bob Pingry
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski
Subject: RE:Charlottesville,Va Signage - HFT(Fwd: FW:CSP)Cville
Attachments: 11866REV1djm - Harbor Freight-Charlottesville,VA.pdf; Red Pantone 485.pdf
Bob,
I have looked at the submission you emailed me yesterday and here are my comments:
p. 1 of 6: I want to note that I am currently reviewing your Comprehensive Sign Plan for this building.As a part of that
plan, it shows the approved locations for signs on Building C(otherwise known as the Gander Mountain building).With
this submission,the CSP will have to be revised to show a new building elevation if Harbor Freight is going to erect a new
storefront on the west end of the north facade.Also note that you "existing conditions"subset is not currently existing.
By stating this, I have to assume Harbor Freight will be turning in a sign application after the alterations are made to the
building façade?
p. 1 and 2 of 6:these revised elevation drawings do not suffice in quality if the application is for a minor amendment to
architectural drawings. If you are providing it with a siqn application just to show the location of the sign, that is fine.
p. 3 of 6,which shows proposed wall sign colors: Please provide Pantone color equivalents and note that any color close
to Pantone#485C is not permissible in the EC(see attachment).
p.4 of 6:the proposed sign location is permissible as per the Comprehensive Sign Plan that is under review. However,a
separate sign application must be made from any application to amend architectural plans.
p. 5 of 6:See notes above.
p. 6 of 6,which shows a proposed tenant panel sign for the existing monument sign at Northtown Center: please note
that an approved Comprehensive Sign Plan for the monument sign at Northtown Center exists, and can be found here:
http://www.albemarle.org/upload/images/Forms Center/Departments/Community Development/Forms/ARB Compre
hensive Sign Criteria/Northtown%20Center%20freestanding%20sign.pdf Also please note that this will require a
separate sign application and ARB approval.
To address your specific questions: square footage is calculated by Zoning when a signa application is submitted and
reviewed. For more information about sign size allowance, please refer to the Albemarle County Zoning Ordinance
Chapter 18,Section 4.15.The sign sizes will also have to comply with the Comprehensive Sign Plan once one is
approved. Right now,the proposed Comprehensive Sign Plan for this building(currently under review) illustrates on the
elevations submitted that the maximum letter height for channel letter signs on at the west end of the north façade and
on the west façade of Building C is 3' and the maximum length is 16'.That is inclusive of the banner underneath the
channel letters and the space in between (so, maximum height of all elements together must=36").Your sign
application must be in compliance with the Comprehensive Sign Plan that is under review and will be approved.
Speaking of the Comprehensive Sign Plan, however, I have just reviewed it;the criteria still has omissions,errors,and
typos and at least one drawing needs to be changed. Please send me a Word version of the actual criteria electronically
(by email); it will be easier for me to mark it up using Track Changes and send it back to you for review. Once I do that, I
will send you a formal review comments letter requesting changes to this resubmission.
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Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent:Wednesday,January 30, 2019 3:20 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd:Charlottesville,Va Signage- HFT(Fwd: FW: CSP)Cville
Heather:
Thank you for your cursory review of the attached concept Harbor Freight would like to prepare an amendment
to the Gander Mountain ARB approved plan. Let me know your initial thoughts.
One item to confirm is the sign SF. Margaret has told me in the past that the allowed SF for signage will be
based on the zoning code for signs. We calculated this to be i35 SF for the Harbor Freight space. Assuming the
amendment would be approved,is the sign area and size shown a good approximation of what will be
allowed? My understanding of our CSP is that it is,but I may be wrong.
Forwarded message
From: <slevy@urbanneon.com>
Date:Wed,Jan 30,2019 at 7:00 AM
Subject: RE:Charlottesville,Va Signage-HFT(Fwd: FW: CSP)Cville
To: Bill Gerhardt<BGerhardt@harborfreight.com>,<phwray@trianglerealtors.net>, Marcus Bourn
<mbourn@rosngkf.com>, Bob Pingry<bobr ingry@gmail.com>
Cc:Allen Dahl<allenpdahl@gmail.com>
Pete& Bob,
These two (2) sets add up to a total of 135 sq ft(54 sq ft on the parking lot elevation &80 sq ft on the side facing RT
29)which is what the new CSP allows.
Thank you.
Stu Levy
Urban Neon Sign,Lighting&Graphics Co.
500 Pine St. Suite 3A
2
Holmes,PA 19043
610-522-5555
slevy@urbanneon.com
From: Bill Gerhardt<BGerhardt@harborfreight.com>
Sent:Tuesday,January 29,2019 5:15 PM
To: phwrav@trianglerealtors.net; 'Marcus Bourn'<mbourn@rosngkf.com>; 'Bob Pingry' <bobpingry@gmail.com>; 'Stu
Levy' <slevv@urbanneon.com>
Cc: 'Allen Dahl'<allenpdahl@gmail.com>; Bill Gerhardt<BGerhardt@harborfreight.com>
Subject: Charlottesville,Va Signage- HFT(Fwd: FW: CSP)Cville
Front letters should be 38.5 ....route 29 side 47".
Thank you
Bill Gerhardt
Director Real Estate
HARBOR FREIGHT TOOLS
Cell: (818)201-8748
Email: BGerhardt@HarborFreight.com
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Heather McMahon
From: Bob Pingry <bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday,January 22,2019 2:43 PM
To: Heather McMahon
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski
Subject: Fwd: Request Preliminary Input for likley ARB amendment
Attachments: Harbor Freight Gander Elevation Options.pdf
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Hey Heather:
Attached are three conceptual facade changes that Harbor Freight is considering for an amendment to the
Gander Mtn Building LOA. What they want is an entrance presence that looks"primary"instead of secondary,
complimenting the existing gabled entrance. Their first choice is to extend the parapet height,but they want to
proceed with the revision that will have the best chance to be considered and approved.
Can you provide an opinion on these concepts to rank most likely to least likely?
This Gander building has been allowed to proceed to the Harbor Freight Corporate Office for consideration for
a new store. Creating a"primary"storefront is critical for this site to be selected. They are meeting early next
week.
They understand that the amendment for a new storefront and modified entrance facade could be denied and
they go on to another location in another town next on their list,but they like the Gander Building and are
willing to pay for an architectural package for an amendment.
Thanks for any guidance you may provide.
Bob Pingry
bobpingrv@gmail.com
434-981-5094
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Heather McMahon
From: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday,January 22, 2019 11:52 AM
To: Heather McMahon; Margaret Maliszewski; 'Bob Pingry'
Subject:. RE: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Thanks, Heather. Will let you know about the 2/4 meeting. There has been so much discussion, I could not remember.
Nena Harrell
United Land.Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,January 22,2019 11:37 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>; Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; 'Bob Pingry'
<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Hello Nena,
Staff was unable to recall what the ARB's decision had been in regard to the particular question of internal illumination
of logos moving forward, as that criteria was unclear in the proposed Comprehensive Sign Plan submitted. It was staffs
recollection that the ARB had approved the internal illumination of the ULC sign because it was pre-existing.Staff took
this exact question to the ARB at the January 7th meeting (action memo attached)to get very specific direction'on the
internal versus external (or no) illumination of logos;the ARB's decision (as seen in the action memo)coincided with the
recommendations in the staff report and the standards and criteria as outlined in the EC Sign Guidelines, i.e.,that
"Internal illumination of graphics is not approved,except for the ULC graphic that is being moved from an existing
location. External illumination of graphics is acceptable."This decision was made in large part because the Buffalo Wild
Wings logo is not illuminated, and the board thought it should set the standard.The internal illumination of the Burn
Boot Camp logo was approved before the Comprehensive Sign Plan was approved, so its status is grandfathered in for
the duration of the sign.
If you have reservations about this decision, I recommend raising it as an other business item at the next ARB meeting
on February 4,2019.You should be present for that meeting.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
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From: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Sent: Monday,January 21, 2019 4:08 PM
To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; 'Bob Pingry'<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Cc: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Margaret,
Did we agree that internal illumination of logos were an option but not preferred?
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
From: Margaret Maliszewski [mailto;MMaliszewski@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,January 8, 2019 2:22 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>; Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Cc: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Nena and Bob,
We were able to talk with the ARB yesterday to get clarification on the three issues we identified last week. Here is their
action:
a. ARB-2018-77: Northtown Center CSP
In consensus,the ARB determined that:
• Red,white and blue are approved colors. Black can be used as an accent color.
• Internal illumination of graphics is not approved,except for the ULC graphic that is being moved from an
existing location. External illumination of graphics is acceptable.
• The 4' letter height for Goodwill is acceptable.
The ARB also noted that:
• Red Harbor Freight letters will be difficult to read on the brick background. White letters would be more legible.
• Blue Goodwill letters will be difficult to read on the brown background.White letters would be more legible.
If you have questions,feel free to contact us.
Thanks.
Margaret
From: Nena H<uicwww@embargmail.com>
Sent:Thursday,January 03, 2019 3:58 PM
To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.ojg>
Cc: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>; Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Thanks-will wait to heat from you.
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Nena Harrell
434-975-3334
Sent from my iPhone ,
On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>wrote:
Nena and Bob,
I've spoken with Heather about the outstanding questions we had after yesterday's discussion.We need
to consult with the ARB to ask about the addition of a 4th color and to confirm the 48" letter height and
graphics illumination.There is no need to submit revisions before Monday. Once we hear from the ARB,
we'll let you know their decisions, and that information can be incorporated into your resubmittal.
Thanks.
Margaret
Margaret Maliszewski, Chief of Planning/Resource Management
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3276
mmaliszewski@albemarle.org
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Heather McMahon
From: Bob Pingry <bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 5:20 PM
To: Pete
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski; Nena Harrell; Hunter Call; Heather McMahon
Subject: Re:GOODWILL BUILDING C ELEVATIONS AND SIGN CONSTRUCTION DETAILS
January 2 at 3 pm works. See you at your office.
On Thu, Dec 27, 2018,4:52 PM <phwrav@trianglerealtors.net wrote:
I will be out of town until January 9 but Bob and Hunter know what we need...thank you.
From: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Sent:Thursday, December 27, 2018 3:32 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Cc: Bob Pingry<bobpingryCa@gmail.com>; Pete<phwray@trianglerealtors.net>; Hunter Call
<hunter.call13@gmail.com>; Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:GOODWILL BUILDING C ELEVATIONS AND SIGN CONSTRUCTION DETAILS
Does Wednesday,January 2 at 3 PM work for everyone?
From: Nena H<ulcwww(a)embargmail.com>
Sent:Thursday, December 27, 2018 8:18 AM
To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>; Pete<phwray@trianglerealtors.net>; Hunter Call
<hunter.cal113@gmail.com>; Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: GOODWILL BUILDING C ELEVATIONS AND SIGN CONSTRUCTION DETAILS
All,
I am out for rest of week. I will be back in touch re time soon. If others want to propose time, please do so.
Nena Harrell
434-975-3334
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Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 26,2018, at 2:28 PM, Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>wrote:
Hello, Bob.
Thanks for checking in on this project. It sounds like there remains some confusion about what
is required for the Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan approval. I've attached the
August 6, 2018 ARB action letter and Heather's September email. Both provide direction on
how to obtain approval. I recommend that we (you, me, Heather, Nena, and your sign
company representative) meet to go over everything so that everyone involved understands
all that is required, so we can get this wrapped up. Please provide a few days and times that
your team will be available to meet here at the County Office Building and we'll let you know
which dates/times will work. In the meantime, please note the following:
1. I suggest you pursue a temporary wall sign for Goodwill to ensure that you will have
signage when the store opens. Application here. Information here.
2. Maximum allowable square footage is based on business frontage. You are showing
signs for three businesses, but the floor plan seems to show only two. If you provide
the business frontage for all three tenants, I will forward that information to our Zoning
permit reviewers and they'll let you know the maximum allowable sign area for each.
3. The roof color change,and any other changes to the building, require a separate application
and review by the ARB. In Part B of the application,check the box under"Review by the ARB"
for"Amendment to an approved Certificate of Appropriateness." Metal/color samples will be
required.As I've indicated previously, I don't think the blue is consistent with the other
building materials and colors in the shopping center,so it is not likely that I will recommend
approval to the ARB.The next submittal deadline is January 7 for a February 19 meeting.
4. Allowable logo colors will be determined by the approved Comprehensive Sign Plan.
I'll wait to hear from you on potential meeting times.
Thanks.
Margaret
From: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:22 PM
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To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Cc: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>; Pete<phwrav@trianglerealtors.net>; Hunter Call
<hunter.call13@gmail.com>
Subject:GOODWILL BUILDING C ELEVATIONS AND SIGN CONSTRUCTION DETAILS
Margaret:
We have completed a CSP plan that I think addresses all of the items you asked Nena to
provide upon review of her CSP application,which I have attached.
Gropen's plan(attached)shows channel letter dimensions and color possibilities. We are
requesting the colors specified to coordinate with the Goodwill Blue and a tenant prospect for
red. Also shown is the existing brown standing seam metal roofs painted Goodwill Blue.
The priority for Goodwill is to get there sign up between now and February to accommodate
their projected opening in early February. They have agreed to a white channel letter to
accommodate this schedule,but it is not there preference. They also will open with the no
change to the existing standing seam metal shed roof color,but also is not their preference.
What else do you need to to approve a CSP for this center and if an approval is possible to allow
for fabrication lead time for the signage.
If the timing for CSP approval is in mid to late January, can Goodwill submit a sign application
based on the existing Gander sign dimensions in white channel letters?
Can their logo use their logo colors?
Thank you very much for your assistance to accommodate this part of the Gander building
renovation.
Have a great Holiday Season!
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<ARB-2018-77 and ARB-2018-94 Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan ULC and Burnt Boot Camp
Signs.pdf>
<mime-attachment>
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2018 3:40 PM
To: 'ulcwww2@embarqmail.com'
Cc: Nena Harrell
Subject: RE: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign
Attachments: Northtown Center Sign.pdf; SKM_364e-P118090413150.pdf;ARB-2018-77 and
ARB-2018-94 Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan ULC and Burnt Boot Camp
Signs.pdf
Hello Pam and Nena,
Thank you for your email with the attached documents. I am sorry this was not made clear, but we require two
hardcopies of the revised submission for review and approval.That should be two FULL copies of the submission, i.e.,
sheets A1.1.,A1.2,A1.3,A1.4, and the Comprehensive Sign Plan.
I had a chance to look over your three-page attachment and I have review comments for you. Before I delineate them, I
want to draw your attention to the three attachments to this email:the first is what you just sent me;the second is a
scan of A1.1 and A1.4 that were previously submitted and displayed at the ARB meeting on 8/6/18; and the third is the
action letter that followed the 8/6/18 ARB meeting, which should be a helpful reference for you as you address the
requested changes made at the meeting by the Board.
Review comments--
1. Letter face color: if, Nena,Goodwill is coming into Building C and they want a blue sign,you will need to add 'blue' as
an approved letter face color to the CSP. Otherwise, blue will not be approvable. Furthermore,the exact shade of blue
(with a Pantone identification number)will be necessary.
2. Please proofread and punctuate the sentences within the CSP:
a.Trim cap/return color: delete"To match letter face color" in the beginning of the sentence and capitalize
"black."
b.Size limitations: please add a period between the parenthetical remark and "No,"which is the start of a
second sentence.
c. Location: delete the first sentence, "On the West&North elevations,within the sign area outlined on the
approved drawings." Please provide the exact wording inclusive of punctuation provided in number 5 of the attached
action letter.
3.You have revised the drawing A1.4 to show the building sign moved so that the bottom is not clear of the cables.This
is not appropriate placement. It does not mirror the placement shown on A1:1,which is a building that is the exact
mirror of this one. So please explain how the sign on the northern end unit of Building B,depicted in A1.1,can be clear
of the cables and be 18'from grade,while the sign on the southern end unit of Building B, depicted on A 1.4. is not clear
of the cables and yet is 18'above grade. If the dimensions and sign placement of the proposed location on the southern
end unit as depicted on A1.4 is 18',then the dimensions on A1.1 are wrong and need to be revised. OR perhaps the sign
placement on the original A1.4 is the proper placement and the dimension given to the left needs revising.
4. Numbers 6, 9, 10, and 16 of the action letter have not been addressed.Address these and submit with a complete
revised submission.
A. Provide a sign drawing for Building C that shows proposed sign placement, size, and type •
B. Revise the CSP to include the information requested in items,9, 10,and 16:
i. Size limitations:the size limitations of the letters (15"-18")for building B needs to be included here.
ii.Size limitations for the letters on Building C need to be included here.
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iii. Logo graphic details: remove the first phrase "Appropriate letter height for signs on Building B..." and
add to the category size limitations."
iv. Logo graphic details:Add "on Building B"after"not exceed 30 inches".
v. Logo graphic details: provide size limitations(max height) of logos and graphics for buildings A and C.
vi. logo graphic details: provide illumination details for logos/graphics here.
It may behoove you to have a conversation with me in person so that we can go over all of the drawings and all of the
requested changes outlined in-the action letter dated 8/10/18,so that your next resubmission completely addresses the
conditions outlined at the 8/6/18 ARB meeting. I am available by appointment most days; let me know what suits you.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
_ Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
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Original Message
From: ulcwww2@embarqmail.com [mailto:ulcwww2@embargmail.com]
Sent: Friday,August 31,2018 2:06 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign -
Heather Per your request on letter dated Aug. 10,2018 for ARB 2018-77
NorthTown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Best regards,
Pam Giglio for Nena Harrell
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Heather McMahon
From: ulcwww2@embarqmail.com
Sent: Friday,August 31, 2018 2:06 PM
To: Heather McMahon
Cc: Nena Harrell
' Subject: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign
Attachments: Northtown Center Sign.pdf _
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
Heather Per your request on letter dated Aug. 10,2018 for ARB 2018-77
NorthTown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Best regards,
Pam Giglio for Nena Harrell ,
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From: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday,August 09, 2018 12:00 PM
To: Heather McMahon
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
I will find out more about proposed location. I really am not clear.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday,August 9, 2018 11:48 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
No, signs not visible from the EC do not require ARB review or approval, but I am not convinced that that sign would not
be visible from Rt. 29 southbound; I believe most of the building is visible from the EC. If the application comes in with a
blue sign, I will have to make another site visit and determine visibility.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 09, 2018 11:38 AM
To: Heather McMahon <hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Ok thanks for that. I think the donation center sign will be on the east side of the building not visible from 29 but I may
just include for safety.
Do signs not visible from EC have to be approved?
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation --
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Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday,August 9,2018 11:32 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,-
Great,thanks for the clarification. I will keep an'eye out for your revision.
One thing I noted when you sent those Gander Mountain Building drawings to me Monday morning:the proposed
"Donation Center" sign in one of the drawings(attached) is blue. If you want blue channel letters to be permissible,then
you will need to add that color-to the criteria.
Thanks,
• Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent:Thursday,August 09,2018 11:26 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Thanks, Heather. Will be working on revisions soon. One thing that we verified right away is distance from top of cables
to roof and it is 48" so there is plenty of room above sign. If we locate signs just above cables there will be 30" above
sign so should look much better that up high. I
think the perspective must have been off in pic or something.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday,August 9,2018 11:20 AM
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To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Subject:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Nena,
Please find the action letter following Monday's(8-6-18)ARB meeting attached. Revisions are requested before a
Certificate of Appropriateness can be issued.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Monday,August 06,2018 11:23 AM
To: 'Nena Harrell'<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
I can project it during the meeting, but you should bring multiple copies to distribute to the board members as well.
There will be four board members present and two staff.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday,August 06,2018 11:09 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
Can you show the Goodwill sign info at end of meeting on board via computer or should I bring multiple copies?
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
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Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,July 31,2018 9:40 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hello Nena,
Please find the staff report and the agenda for the 8-6-18 ARB meeting attached.Yours is the first regular review item,
so please be there promptly at 1 pm.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 Mclritire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,July 25,2018 9:54 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
I had hoped to have yesterday as well. I will check now.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From:,Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Wednesday,July 25, 2018 9:12 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
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I had hoped to receive the drawing of Gander Mountain's proposed sign locations and any updates to your CSP
yesterday. My staff report needs to be finalized on Friday so that it can be delivered to the ARB on Monday in a week's
preparation time for the 8/6/18 ARB meeting. If I do not receive those materials today, my staff report will reflect that
information is missing and I will recommend a second review so that all missing information can be supplied and
reviewed by staff as well as the board.Another option is a deferral. Please let me know how you wish to proceed.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,July 23, 2018 1:55 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Will do but we are not intending to change channel letter colors but will use their blue on logo and probably monument
sign. Will get you rendering as soon as I have it.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent: Monday,July 23, 20181:48'PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP •
Hi Nena,
Please send me the Gander building drawing(s) electronically as soon as possible. If you're revising the CSP criteria (I
assume you'll be adding'blue'to the letter face colors,for instance,yes?), please update that and send electronically
with the drawing of the Gander building.
I will ask Margaret when she returns tomorrow about an amendment to the monument sign proposal.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
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Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,July 23,2018 11:54 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
I was out of town last week with little time for work. The future uses of the Gander building are not fully determined
yet; however,we will have a rendering showing half of the building and a blank for another future tenant. It that deal
goes through,there will only be 2 tenants so things are still up in the air a bit. There will have to be changes made to
the monument sign colors as well when tenants are resolved for Gander building which I assume can be addressed
through amendment. Hopefully I will know by tomorrow when we will have rendering for Gander building.
If it is easier to discuss, please call this afternoon. I will be back after 1:30.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,July 17,2018 10:06 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
I'm reviewing your Comprehensive Sign Plan application for Northtown Center,starting to write my staff report, and I
just noticed that your application does not include an elevation drawing of the Gander Mountain building. I have been
told that there has been discussion of three separate businesses possibly going into that one building; if that is the case,
then the three potential sign locations will need to be marked on an elevation drawing.
Please submit one at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
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hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Wednesday,June 27,2018 5:24 PM
To: 'Nena Harrell'<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
Please find the notification letter,which names the ARB meeting date of August 6 as the date during which the above-
named proposal will be reviewed,attached.A hard copy of this letter will be posted in tomorrow's mail.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902 .
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 4:18 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Emailing:Sign
Heather,
I think I should have updated this page from the ULC sign app to say"translucent" white letters.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: ulcwww2@embarqmail.com [mailto:ulcwww2@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 4:15 PM
To: ulcwww@embarqmail.com
Subject: Emailing:Sign
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Heather McMahon
From: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday,August 06, 2018 10:09 AM
To: Heather McMahon
Subject: RE: Gander sign plan design for CSP
Heather,
Understood. Re ULC sign, it is internally illuminated with neon and has been all along. I will double check our file and I
will state that today and then revise along with other requested revisions.
Thanks much!
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent: Monday,August 6,2018 9:44 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:Gander sign plan design for CSP
Nena,
A 7/25 date for the Gander Mountain drawing was a courtesy I was extending to you;that due date was well beyond the
date due for all drawings necessary to present a complete application for review for an 8/6/18 ARB meeting.You may
bring them to the meeting today and apprise the ARB of them, but they will have to be reviewed after the meeting.
I'm sorry, but I could find nothing in your application that said the ULC sign and logo were illuminated. In fact, I had to
use the 2003 Certificate of Appropriateness and staff report to find a majority of the details on that sign, and it was not
approved for illumination then. If the ULC sign is to be illuminated,you can make that clear at the ARB meeting today,
and you will need to revise the sign drawing for that sign to say as much.
See you at 1 pm.
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
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From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday,August 06,2018 8:26 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Gander sign plan design for CSP
Heather,
Unfortunately, I found this sitting in my drafts this morning.When I was reading staff report this morning, I double
checked my"sent box" and did not find it. It was supposed to be sent 7/25. It was sent in my brain but obviously not by
my fingers! Although we believe it is a bit premature to make all decisions about the Gander building,we are in
agreement with most of your discussion in your staff report. I know this does not give you time for review and hate
that I did not double check sending this to you earlier.
In re ULC sign,the letters and logo are illuminated. Most all of your recommendations are fine just needclarifications
on a couple of things.
See you`at 1.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
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Heather McMahon
From: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Friday,August 03,2018 4:01 PM
To: Heather McMahon
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather, I was just looking at staff report and could not figure out. It has been a week full of Mondays@ Thanks much!
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent: Friday,August 3, 2018 2:29 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hello Nena,
The revised application you gave me included:
1.An ARB Comprehensive Sign Review Approved Conditions sheet; 2.An elevation of the entire building at 435 Gander
Dr., entitled "Signage for Northtown Shopping Center", dated 6-25-18 and numbered A1.1 at the bottom right; 2.An
elevation of the two northernmost units at 435 Gander Dr.,entitled "Signage for Northtown Shopping Center: Bay#1
and#2",dated 6-25-18 and numbered A1.2 at the bottom right; 3.An elevation of the two middle units at 435 Gander
Dr., entitled "Signage for Northtown Shopping Center: Bay#3 and#4", dated 6-25-18 and numbered A1.3 at the bottom
right;4.An elevation of the two southernmost units at 435 Gander Dr.,entitled "Signage for Northtown Shopping
Center: Bay#5 and#6", dated 6-25-18 and numbered A1.4 at the bottom right;5.A detail of the ULC sign, entitled
"Signage for United Land Company: New HQ Northtown Shopping Center", dated 6-25-18 and (incorrectly) numbered
A1.2 at the bottom right;
Please check your application package.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon, Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
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From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Friday,August 03,2018 1:58 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
Where/what is drawing A1.4 referenced on p 6? For some reason, I am not finding it.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,July 31,2018 9:40 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hello Nena,
Please find the staff report and the agenda for the 8-6-18 ARB meeting attached.Yours is the first regular review item,
so please be there promptly at 1 pm.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,July 25, 2018 9:54 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
I had hoped to have yesterday as well. I will check now.
Nena Harrell
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United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
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Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Wednesday,July 25,2018 9:12 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
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Hi Nena,
I had hoped to receive the drawing of Gander Mountain's proposed sign locations and any updates to your CSP
yesterday. My staff report needs to be finalized on Friday so that it can be delivered to the ARB on Monday in a week's
preparation time for the 8/6/18 ARB meeting. If I do not receive those materials today, my staff report will reflect that
information is missing and I will recommend a second review so that all missing information can be supplied and
reviewed by staff as well as the board.Another option is a deferral. Please let me know how you wish to proceed.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,July 23, 2018 1:55 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Will do but we are not intending to change channel letter colors but will use their blue on logo and probably monument
sign. Will get you rendering as soon as I have it.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent: Monday,July 23, 2018 1:48 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
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Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
Please send me the Gander building drawing(s) electronically as soon as possible. If you're revising the CSP criteria (I
assume you'll be adding'blue'to the letter face colors,for instance,yes?), please update that and send electronically
with the drawing of the Gander building.
I will ask Margaret when she returns tomorrow about an amendment to the monument sign proposal.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday,July 23, 2018 11:54 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Heather,
I was out of town last week with little time for work. The future uses of the Gander building are not fully determined
yet; however,we will have a rendering showing half of the building and a blank for another future tenant. It that deal
goes through,there will only be 2 tenants so things are still up in the air a bit. There will have to be changes made to
the monument sign colors as well when tenants are resolved for Gander building which I assume can be addressed
through amendment. Hopefully I will know by tomorrow when we will have rendering for Gander building.
If it is easier to discuss, please call this afternoon. I will be back after 1:30.
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday,July 17, 2018 10:06 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
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I'm reviewing your Comprehensive Sign Plan application for Northtown Center,starting to write my staff report, and I
just noticed that your application does not include an elevation drawing of the Gander Mountain building. I have been
told that there has been discussion of three separate businesses possibly going into that one building; if that is the case,
then the three potential sign locations will need to be marked on an elevation drawing.
Please submit one at your earliest convenience.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Wednesday,June 27,2018 5:24 PM
To: 'Nena Harrell'<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject:ARB2018-77 ULC sign and Northtown Center CSP
Hi Nena,
Please find the notification letter,which names the ARB meeting date of August 6 as the date during which the above-
named proposal will be reviewed,attached.A hard copy of this letter will be posted in tomorrow's mail.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
' From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday,June 25, 2018 4:18 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Emailing:Sign
Heather,
I think I should have updated this page from the ULC sign app to say"translucent"white letters.
Nena Harrell
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United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
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To: ulcwww@embargmail.com
Subject: Emailing:Sign
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Heather McMahon
From: Margaret Maliszewski
Sent: Thursday,July 19,2018 9:59 AM
To: Bob Pingry
Cc: Heather McMahon
Subject: RE:Gander site plan amendment
Bob,
If the ARB viewed the Gander building as a part of the overall development,the addition of a lot line won't change that
and they'll expect it to be a part of the CSP.The plat and parking questions will need to be answered by someone in
Zoning. I'll work on getting you those answers.
Margaret
From: Bob Pingry<bobpingry@gmail.com>
Sent:Thursday,July 19, 2018 9:52 AM
To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; Paul Bjornsen<pbjornsen@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Gander site plan amendment
A quick question Margaret:
My client is purchasing the Gander Mountain building and associated parking lot to Gander.
There will be a new deed; and lot line adjustment for plat I suspect? (So in essence the Gander
Mountain building and parking will be an outparcel of Northtown Center.)
Assuming a new plat, please confirm the parking spaces (and ratio) in the new parcel are for the
Gander Mountain building only albeit with cross parking easements with the rest of Northtown
Center.
By creating a new parcel, are there any implications with the CSP for Northtown Center which you
have requested Gander be a part of?
Thanks for your reply.
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:16 AM Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>wrote:
Bob,
I've looked through the Northtown Center plans and amendments and checked with Megan Nedostup on the
preferred application type. The changes you mentioned would require a minor site plan amendment to SDP-
2013-02: Northtown Center Phase 2A Final. You can access documents associated with this file using this link:
http://www.albemarle.org/weblink/search.aspx?dbid=3&searchcoinmand=%7b%5b CDD-
Planning%5d:%5bApplicationNuinber%5d=%22SDP201300002%22%7d . To see the actual file, you can
contact Paul Bjornsen at 434-296-5832 x7940 or at pbjornsen@albemarle.org. Please let me know if I can be
of further assistance.
i
Thanks.
Margaret
Margaret Maliszewski, Chief of Planning/Resource Management
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3276
mmaliszewski@albemarle.org
Bob Pingry
bobpingry@gmail.com n
434-981-5094
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 2:36 PM
To: 'Nena H'
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski
Subject: RE: Emailing:ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
Sure,just tell intake to ring me when you're at the front desk and I'll come down.Yes,the$129 for ARB review is still
outstanding.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: Nena H [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 2:32 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Emailing:ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
I am headed there. ETA 20 min.Shall I ask for you so you can do a quick look over? I believe I need to bring check for
$129?
Nena Harrell
Sent from my iPhone
>On Jun 25, 2018,at 1:01 PM, Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>wrote:
> Hi Nena,
>Yes, 3 pm is the filing deadline. No,we do not have ARB today, but we do have the HPC meeting at 4:30-6.
> Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
>Albemarle County Department of Community Development
>401 McIntire Road
>Charlottesville,VA 22902
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>434-296-5832 x3278
> hmcmahon@albemarle.org
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> Original Message
> From: Nena Harrell [mailto:ulcwww@embarqmail.com]
>Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 12:35 PM
>To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>; Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
>Subject: FW: Emailing:ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
> Heather/Margaret,
>Attached,is the text for the comprehensive sign approval. I am waiting on a
>rendering showing locations from Bob Pineo. Still hoping to get there
>today. Is 3:00 the deadline? Please let me know if you think we need to revise or amend. Not sure if today is a
meeting day for you.
>Thanks,
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>Nena Harrell
>United Land Corporation
>Vice President
> PO Box 5548
>Charlottesville,VA 22905
>434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
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>From: ulcwww2@embarqmail.com [mailto:ulcwww2@e'mbargmail.com]
>Sent: Monday,June 25, 2018 12:29 PM
>To: ulcwww@embargmail.com
>Subject: Emailing:ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
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Heather McMahon
From: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday,June 25,2018 9:46 AM
To: Heather McMahon
Subject: RE:ARB2003-170: ULC sign at Riverside Center
Heather,
I do not know what to do about more info on our sign. The sign co that made the size no longer has the files nor does
Atlantic Coast that installed it. Surely the ARB would understand that they approved it once based on the info they
have. I am working on the sign plan now so will probably have questions Q.
Thanks,
Nena Harrell
United Land Corporation
Vice President
PO Box 5548
Charlottesville,VA 22905
434-975-3334 Fax 434-975-0267
From: Heather McMahon [mailto:hmcmahon@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday,June 21,2018 5:38 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject:ARB2003-170: ULC sign at Riverside Center
Hi Nena,
Thanks for your call. I found the ARB file (hard-copy), and, unfortunately, the sign details that Margaret found illegible
on your latest submission are even more illegible on the original (which I scanned and have attached here)we have on
file, which was faxed to the office, apparently.
Recently approved CSPs include:
1. Seminole North (2017)
2. Timberwood Commons (updated 2017)
3. NTB (formerly Merchant's Auto) (2018)
4. West Park Plaza—Rio West(2016)
5. 5th Street Station (2016)
6. Luxor Building 3 (2016)
Any of the above hyperlinks should take you directly to the site's CSP. You may find these examples helpful as you craft
your own.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon, Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
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Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: BizHubPlanning@albemarle.org[mailto:BizHubPlanning@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday,June 21, 2018 4:23 PM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Subject: Message from KM_364e
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Heather McMahon
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Wednesday,June 20, 2018 10:15 AM
To: 'Nena H'
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski; Leah Brumfield
Subject: RE: ULC sign
Attachments: ARB2018-77 application.pdf
Hi Nena,
Thank you for your email; I have attached a .pdf of your application to this email.
Could you please let me know whether you are willing to defer this application?
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org .
From: Nena H [mailto:ulcwww@embargmail.com]
Sent:Wednesday,June 20,2018 7:29 AM
To: Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; Leah Brumfield<lbrumfield@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: ULC sign
Heather,
Thank you for your call&email. My mother has been here visiting& I just have not had the opportunity to respond. Mr.
Pingry's call was a bit premature. I will speak to that group tomorrow& respond to you as soon as we have that
conversation.We also moved our office&the sign file is MIA. Could you please email me back our application package.
So sorry to ask- I assume you already have it digitally.
The temp sign sounds like that works for ULC but we also have a new tenant for the building we are in so have to include
that in how we move forward.
Thanks so much to you& Margaret for your help. I have just been overwhelmed for last few weeks.
Nena Harrell
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 19,2018,at 1:26 PM, Heather McMahon<hmcmahon@albemarle.org>wrote:
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Hi again, Nena,
I placed a call into your office yesterday, late afternoon,to speak with you about future filing deadlines
as well as to let you know that at yesterday's ARB meeting, Margaretasked the ARB about the
Comprehensive Sign Plan issue for Northtown Center.The Board indicated that a single Comprehensive
Sign Plan is required for the overall center(all three building groups). I believe Bob Pingry has been in
touch with you to coordinate the issue.
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The next filing deadline is Monday,June 25th for the August 6th ARB meeting.You may\not have
supporting materials prepared by that date, I understand;what I would like to do is defer your present
application indefinitely, but I will need you to please respond in writing that you are in agreement with
that. While you and Bob work out the Comprehensive Sign Plan, I think you should apply for a
temporary sign,which you can get asap. I don't know much about issuing a temporary sign permit, so
please contact my zoning colleagues about that:
Leah Brumfield Ibrumfield@albemarle.org
Rebecca Ragsdale rragsdale@albemarle.org
Please respond to this email to let me know if you agree to deferring your present application while you
work on a Comprehensive Sign Plan for the whole of Northtown Center. If I don't hear from you by the
end of the week, I will commence to review your present application. When I do that, I'll be sending you
a letter requesting changes;from that letter you will have 15 days to respond or I will deny your
application. I would rather not deny the application,so, again, please let me know if you wish to defer.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon, Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
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Charlottesville,VA 229,02
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Wednesday,June 13, 2018 2:28 PM,
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; Leah Brumfield <Ibrumfield@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: ULC sign
Hi again, Nena,
Please let me clarify a potentially vague point in my last email to you that Margaret caught: we still
need the materials asap for this project to go to the July 16th ARB meeting, which is the meeting date
that corresponds to the June 4th application filing deadline, under which your submission falls. We have
to have the materials in hand in order to review them and prepare staff reports; without them,your
application is incomplete and will not be reviewed.
Again, if you can get me everything Margaret requested (including the fee for the application) before 5
pm tomorrow, I will endeavor to have this project ready for the July 2"d ARB meeting; any later date will
preclude that. Furthermore, if we don't receive the requested materials before the end of business next
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Monday,June 18th, I cannot ensure that I will have the staff report prepared in time for the July 16th
meeting. In sum,getting us the materials as soon as possible is of the utmost importance.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon, Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Wednesday,June 13, 2018 2:16 PM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Cc: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; Leah Brumfield<Ibrumfield@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: ULC sign
Hi Nena,
Margaret has assigned this project to me, and has supplied the following emails between the two of
you. If you want this request for a Comprehensive Sign Plan for North Town Shopping Center to go to
the ARB on July 2, I will need the materials that Margaret requested no later than close of business
tomorrow.You can email them to me or you can bring them into the intake staff at the reception desk
at the County Office Building on McIntire; please direct the materials to me.
Otherwise,the project will be slated for the July 16 Arb meeting. Regardless, I will need the materials
that Margaret requested and which are delineated in the email below.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon,Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
From: Margaret Maliszewski
Sent:Thursday,June 07, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Subject: RE: ULC sign
Nena,
I took a quick look at the drawings submitted with your application and have a few
questions/comments. Please note that a complete review has not yet been accomplished:
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1. For the Comprehensive Sign Plan, drawings should show all proposed locations for future signs
—not just the one you currently want a permit for.These locations can be shown with a simple
rectangle drawn on the building elevations.The drawings should be to scale. (Attached is an
example of an approved CSP.)
2. The drawings show the ULC sign in white channel letters.The proposed comp sign criteria don't
list white as a letter color; dark red, black and a medium-to-light blue are proposed. Please
clarify.
3. The sign location listed in the criteria table references a sign band.The portion of the building
included on the submitted elevations shows that there are no traditional sign bands, so this
reference should be deleted. It may make more sense to retain the "centered left to right over
entrance" and refer back to the rectangles drawn on the elevations.
4. The application states that the channel letters are opaque, but an electrical permit was paid for.
The sign section detail is too small to read.Are these halo-lit letters(light shines out the back of
the letters)? Please provide the details on A1.2 at a legible size.
5. The$129 ARB review fee was not paid, but is required.
Thanks.
Margaret
From: Nena H<ulcwww@embargmail.com>
Sent:Tuesday, May 01, 2018 8:20 PM
To: Margaret Maliszewski<MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>
Cc: Leah Brumfield<lbrumfield@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: ULC sign
Margaret, we will go on north end cap. Potentially 6 tenants but probably 3 for now. We expect to have
a lease signed for half of building next week so that will only leave 1 space at present time.Will review
what you sent me tomorrow.
Thanks,
Nena Harrell
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