HomeMy WebLinkAboutARB201800077 Review Comments 2019-12-26 Margaret Maliszewski
From: Heather McMahon
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2018 2:00 PM
To: Margaret Maliszewski
Subject: FW: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign
Attachments: Northtown Center Sign.pdf; SKM_364e-P118090413150.pdf;ARB-2018-77 and
ARB-2018-94 Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan ULC and Burnt Boot Camp
Signs.pdf
FYI
Original Message
From: Heather McMahon
Sent:Tuesday,September 04, 2018 3:40 PM
To: 'ulcwww2@embarqmail.com'<ulcwww2@embarqmail.com>
Cc: Nena Harrell <ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: RE: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign
Hello Pam and Nena,
Thank you for your email with the attached documents. I am sorry this was not made clear, but we require two
hardcopies of the revised submission for review and approval.That should be two FULL copies of the submission, i.e.,
sheets A1.1.,A1.2,A1.3,A1.4, and the Comprehensive Sign Plan.
I had a chance to look over your three-page attachment and I have review comments for you. Before I delineate them, I
want to draw your attention to the three attachments to this email:the first is what you just sent me;the second is a
scan of A1.1 and A1.4 that were previously submitted and displayed at the ARB meeting on 8/6/18; and the third is the
action letter that followed the 8/6/18 ARB meeting, which should be a helpful reference for you as you address the
requested changes made at the meeting by the Board.
Review comments--
1. Letter face color: if, Nena, Goodwill is coming into Building C and they want a blue sign,you will need to add 'blue' as
an approved letter face color to the CSP. Otherwise, blue will not be approvable. Furthermore,the exact shade of blue
(with a Pantone identification number) will be necessary.
2. Please proofread and punctuate the sentences within the CSP:
a.Trim cap/return color: delete "To match letter face color" in the beginning of the sentence and capitalize
"black."
b. Size limitations: please add a period between the parenthetical remark and "No,"which is the start of a
second sentence.
.c. Location: delete the first sentence, "On the West& North elevations,within the sign area outlined on the
approved drawings." Please provide the exact wording inclusive of punctuation provided in number 5 of the attached
t)tion letter.
You have revised the drawing A1.4 to show the building sign moved so that the bottom is not clear of the cables.This
• not appropriate placement. It does not mirror the placement shown on A1.1,which is a building that is the exact
mirror of this one.So please explain how the sign on the northern end unit of Building B, depicted in A1.1,can be clear
of the cables and be 18'from grade,while the sign on the southern end unit of Building B, depicted on A 1.4. is not clear
of the cables and yet is 18'above grade. If the dimensions and sign placement of the proposed location on the southern
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end unit as depicted on A1.4 is 18',then the dimensions on A1.1 are wrong and need to be revised. OR perhaps the sign
placement on the original A1.4 is the proper placement and the dimension given to the left needs revising.
4. Numbers 6,9, 10, and 16 of the action letter have not been addressed.Address these and submit with a complete
revised submission.
A. Provide a sign drawing for Building C that shows proposed sign placement, size, and type
B. Revise the CSP to include the information requested in items 9, 10, and 16:
i. Size limitations:the size limitations of the letters (15"-18") for building B needs to be included here.
ii.Size limitations for the letters on Building C need to be included here.
iii. Logo graphic details: remove the first phrase "Appropriate letter height for signs on Building B..." and
add to the category size limitations."
iv. Logo graphic details:Add "on Building B" after"not exceed 30 inches".
v. Logo graphic details: provide size limitations (max height) of logos and graphics for buildings A and C.
vi. logo graphic details: provide illumination details for logos/graphics here.
It may behoove you to have a conversation with me in person so that we can go over all of the drawings and all of the
requested changes outlined in the action letter dated 8/10/18, so that your next resubmission completely addresses the
conditions outlined at the 8/6/18 ARB meeting. I am available by appointment most days; let me know what suits you.
Thanks,
Heather McMahon, Senior Planner
Albemarle County Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
434-296-5832 x3278
hmcmahon@albemarle.org
Original Message
From: ulcwww2@embarqmail.com [mailto:ulcwww2@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Friday,August 31, 2018 2:06 PM
To: Heather McMahon <hmcmahon@albemarle.org>
Cc: Nena Harrell<ulcwww@embarqmail.com>
Subject: Emailing: Northtown Center Sign
Heather Per your request on letter dated Aug. 10, 2018 for ARB 2018-77
NorthTown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Best regards,
Pam Giglio for Nena Harrell
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Northtown Center Sign
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ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
PROJECT #/NAME: Northtown Center
TAX MAP/PARCEL#: 04500-00-001100&11000
SIGN FEATURE Proposed Criteria
SIGN TYPE Channel Letters
LETTER FACE COLOR White or Black
To match letter face color black, bronze,
TRIM CAP/RETURN COLOR brushed aluminum or to match the letter
face color
To match the color of the wall to which
RACEWAY COLOR it is attached
Letters: proportional to the sign area
(see Sign Guidelines Appendix A.A and
SIZE LIMITATIONS guidelines 4.d & 9.d) No proposed letter
shall exceed 27" in height for individual
letters on building A
On the West & North elevations, within
the sign area outlined on the approved
LOCATION drawings. Centered within area as
outlined on the approved drawing on
west & south elevation of building A on
the west elevation of building B & on
the north & west elevations of building
C
MOUNTING DETAILS Channel letters mounted on raceway.
ARB COMPREHENSIVE SIGN REVIEW APPROVED CONDITIONS
PROJECT #/NAME: Northtown Center
TAX MAP/PARCEL#: 04500-00-001100&11000
Appropriate letter height for signs on
building B is between 15"to 18" & the
LOGO GRAPHICS DETAILS logo graphics height shall not exceed
30". Limit the logo colors as per the EC
guidelines.
ILLUMINATION DETAILS Internal illumination preferred with
external illumination as an option.
Maximum limit of three typefaces.
LETTER TYPE FONT Additional typefaces may be approved
only if they contribute to a balanced,
legible unified sign design.
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August 10, 2018
Nena Harrell
First Gold Leaf Land Trust
Po Box 5548
Charlottesville, Va 22905
RE: ARB-2018-77 and ARB-2018-94: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan/ULC and
Burnt Boot Camp Signs
Dear Ms. Harrell,
The Albemarle County Architectural Review Board reviewed the above noted item at its meeting on Monday,
August 6, 2018. The Board took the following actions:
Regarding ARB-2018-77: Northtown Center Comprehensive Sign Plan
Approved, by a vote of 4:0 with the conditions outlined in the staff report, amended as follows:
1. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan mounting details criterion to state all channel letter signs shall be
mounted on a raceway.
2. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan raceway color criterion to state"to match the color of the wall to
which it is attached."
3. Revise drawing A 1.4 so that the proposed height of the sign on the south end unit is 18'-0" from
grade.
4. Revise the architectural elevations to depict the buildings as built;rectify the discrepancy between the
canopy cables shown on the elevations and the appearances of the storefronts as built.
5. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan location criterion to state: centered horizontally within the sign
areas as outlined on the approved drawings on the west and south elevations of Building A; on the
west elevation of Building B; and on the north and west elevations of Building C.
0 Provide drawings of the Gander Mountain building (Building C, 440 Gander Drive) which show
proposed sign placement, size and sign type.
7. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan size limit criterion so no proposed letter shall exceed 27 inches
in height for individual letters on Buildings A.
8. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan size limit criterion so that the appropriate letter height for signs
on Building B is between 15 and 18 inches and the logo/graphic height shall not exceed 30 inches.
9 Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan size limit criterion to establish an appropriate letter height for
Oproposed signs on Building C.
10. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan size limit criterion to specify the maximum height of proposed
logos and graphics on Buildings A and C.
11. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan to name approved materials: acrylic, plexiglass or similar for
letter faces and aluminum returns.
12. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan trim cap/return color criterion to state black,bronze,brushed
aluminum, or to match the letter face color.
13. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan letter type font criterion to state a maximum limit of three
typefaces.Additional typefaces may be approved only if they contribute to a balanced,legible,unified
sign design.
14. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan logo graphics details to limit the logo colors as per the EC Sign
Guidelines.
15. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan illumination details criterion to propose internal illumination
preferred with external illumination as an option.
6. Revise the Comprehensive Sign Plan logo graphics details to specify illumination details.
Regarding ARB-2018-94: the United Land Corporation (ULC) and Burn Boot Camp Signs
Approved,by a vote of 4:0 with the following conditions:
1. Revise the placement of the proposed Burn Boot Camp sign to account for the cables that extend from
the canopy to the attic wall.
2. The color of the ULC and Burn Boot Camp raceways shall match the color of the wall surfaces to
which they are attached.
3. Revise the sign drawings to either show external illumination or to note no illumination for the logo.
When staffs review of this information indicates that all conditions of approval have been met,a Certificate of
Appropriateness may be issued. If you have any questions,please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
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Senior Planner
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