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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB202000180 Correspondence 2021-06-28Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3:40 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: Out of Office June 28th - July 2nd Re: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Subdivision Plat- Site Review Committee Action Letter - Approval CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. I am out of the office and will have limited email/phone service and will not be able to respond until next week. Due to the number of emails received it is recommended to call the office at 434-227-5140 or email kelsey@shimp- engineering.com or keane@shimp-engineering.com. I will also be available in the office again on July 6th. Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 3.40 PM To: Shimp Justin; Nicole Scro Subject: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Subdivision Plat- Site Review Committee Action Letter - Approval Attachments: SUB202000180 Approved Preliminary Plat.pdf, SUB202000180 SRC Action Letter.pdf Hi Justin & Nicole, The preliminary plat for Bamboo Grove has been approved with conditions by the Site Review Committee (SRC). Attached is a PDF of the action letter and a signed copy of the approved preliminary plat. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Principal Planner Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 2:23 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Justin Shimp; Nicole Scro; stephanie@chimp-engineering.com Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL . [ Engineering review comments i Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove prelim plat 062521 revl.pdf The Review for the following application has been completed: Application Number = SUB202000180 Reviewer = John Anderson Review Status = No Objection Completed Date = 06/25/2021 This email was sent from County View Production. Cameron, Attached also in CV; thanks for your patience. Take care, best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 1:32 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: Cameron Langille; Stephanie Paul Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, Preliminary Plat, 3 November 2020, Engineering review Thanks Justin, a misunderstanding: it's just the final no -farther -revisions preliminary plat that should be sealed. I recall incident of a site plan PE -seal not signed, not dated, labeled for review recorded at the circuit court. Perhaps not my place to ask —we defer to Planning. Otherwise, thanks very much; this response is helpful. Enjoy your time away. Cameron, Engineering `No objection' review memo to follow —thanks for your patience, best, J. Anderson From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:05 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Stephanie Paul <Stephanie@ shim p-engineering.com> Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, Preliminary Plat, 3 November 2020, Engineering review Hi John, Thanks for the note. I can tell you that I have been on the site in the past 12 months to inspect the site and outfall location, that may not have been labeled correctly on the plan. On the SMW, we will likely use a bio-filter with stone storage underneath as we did at Old Trail blocks 5,20,21. On the seal - I've never signed a seal and then put for review across it. I'd want to confirm with the DPOR specs about that particular item - are other engineers commonly signing plans that way? I'll be out next week but I think these items can be addressed by Stephanie while I'm out. Thanks, -Justin On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:57 AM, John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore> wrote: Justin, It may be best to check with you on 3 Nov 2020 Engineering (preliminary plat) review items # 1, 4, and 9, which appear not addressed with 2021.05.24 preliminary plat revision: has Shimp Engineering visually confirmed topography within the past 12 months (CI indicates topographic contours are taken from 2018 county GIS)? Does SWM concept (05) indicate compliance with stormwater quantity requirements? Is design intent to meet quantity requirements using biofiltration, which typically provides a water quality benefit, with limited detention? I am not questioning design intent so much as whether it is possible. C5 indicates biofiltration SWM, not typically relied upon to meet water quantity energy balance requirements. I am unsure whether Planning can approve a preliminary plat with conditions, but Engineering recognizes the fmal subdivision plat cannot be approved without an approved WPO plan, and that SE will have opportunity with the WPO plan to address state stormwater management water quantity requirements. Last, Cl PE -seal may not be labeled for review, but must be sealed (signed /dated). Please let me know about these items. Engineering hopes to send preliminary plat review comments to Planning later today. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend. best John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 12:05 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Cameron Langille; Stephanie Paul Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, Preliminary Plat, 3 November 2020, Engineering review CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi John, Thanks for the note. I can tell you that I have been on the site in the past 12 months to inspect the site and outfall location, that may not have been labeled correctly on the plan. On the SMW, we will likely use a bio-filter with stone storage underneath as we did at Old Trail blocks 5,20,21. On the seal - I've never signed a seal and then put for review across it. I'd want to confirm with the DPOR specs about that particular item - are other engineers commonly signing plans that way? I'll be out next week but I think these items can be addressed by Stephanie while I'm out. Thanks, -Justin On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:57 AM, John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, It may be best to check with you on 3 Nov 2020 Engineering (preliminary plat) review items # 1, 4, and 9, which appear not addressed with 2021.05.24 preliminary plat revision: has Shimp Engineering visually confirmed topography within the past 12 months (CI indicates topographic contours are taken from 2018 county GIS)? Does SWM concept (C5) indicate compliance with stormwater quantity requirements? Is design intent to meet quantity requirements using biofiltration, which typically provides a water quality benefit, with limited detention? I am not questioning design intent so much as whether it is possible. C5 indicates biofiltration SWM, not typically relied upon to meet water quantity energy balance requirements. I am unsure whether Planning can approve a preliminary plat with conditions, but Engineering recognizes the final subdivision plat cannot be approved without an approved WPO plan, and that SE will have opportunity with the WPO plan to address state stormwater management water quantity requirements. Last, Cl PE -seal may not be labeled for review, but must be sealed (signed /dated). Please let me know about these items. Engineering hopes to send preliminary plat review comments to Planning later today. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend. best John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 11:57 AM To: Justin Shimp Cc: Cameron Langille Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, Preliminary Plat, 3 November 2020, Engineering review Justin, It may be best to check with you on 3 Nov 2020 Engineering (preliminary plat) review items # 1, 4, and 9, which appear not addressed with 2021.05.24 preliminary plat revision: has Shimp Engineering visually confirmed topography within the past 12 months (C1 indicates topographic contours are taken from 2018 county GIS)? Does SWM concept (C indicate compliance with stormwater quantity requirements? Is design intent to meet quantity requirements using biofiltration, which typically provides a water quality benefit, with limited detention? I am not questioning design intent so much as whether it is possible. C5 indicates biofiltration SWM, not typically relied upon to meet water quantity energy balance requirements. I am unsure whether Planning can approve a preliminary plat with conditions, but Engineering recognizes the frial subdivision plat cannot be approved without an approved WPO plan, and that SE will have opportunity with the WPO plan to address state stormwater management water quantity requirements. Last, Cl PE -seal may not be labeled for review, but must be sealed (signed /dated). Please let me know about these items. Engineering hopes to send preliminary plat review comments to Planning later today. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend. best John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10:58 AM To: Cameron Langille; Frank Pohl Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Frank, Cameron, From (CV document) ZMA201900016 Narrative Zoning Map Amendment 2019-11-18, Bamboo Grove, this image, p. 11: FUTURE TRAIL (NOT IN PROJECT( IS 100'STREAM BUFFER - \ ' • 6(/F,rf + • R \ TRAIL DEDICATION 12091 SF \ ROXIMATEI •.` • • •••� - NATURE TRAIL STREAM VWTKEWDETACHED •• -B' DETACHED 'C' AFFORDABI WT 2 i I •.,� -Ir COTTAGE `�. I NOTE HOME 'A SHARED` ..NOTE LOT I ARE I PATIO e . ` / . ` • I AND MAY BE Cf EXISTING 1 I DURING THE RI TREE TO REMAIN IF I POSSIBLE �� I + RAIN GARDEN SWI COMMON / ( PARKING AREA AREA 4 / 100' STREAM BUFF CULVERT LOT 3 OPEN SPACE 2 / // A 1 DRAINAGE EASEM LOT 4 Also, this. pg. 6 of 10/6/20 ZMA Approval: 4. Miscellaneous. A. Stream Buffer. All residential dwelling units and private residential lots shall be located outside the 100' stream buffer. 01 Frank, is it safe to say that SWM, whether rain garden or otherwise, may be located in the landward 50' of stream buffer? Thank you. Cameron, I intend to send comments, today, but want to be clear on this point. Thanks. -best, J. Anderson -x3069 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Friday, May 28, 20214:42 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 14", so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your helpll Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 10 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 10.44 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: FW: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Cameron, did Frank correspond with you on this, earlier this month? I have yet to plow through everything... thanks From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 20215:30 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat I see, yes, if you are able to check, that would really help --I cannot run remote desktop, not yet, so yes, please look it up sometime this week if you have a chance --thanks, Frank From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 1, 20214:11 PM To: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat John, We need to look at the approved ZMA. I think the board allowed this to occur as part of the rezoning. I can look it up sometime this week... Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl(aalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 20217:43 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Frank, to limit chance of reversal, for your consideration. Please see CV 11/3/20 Engineering review comment 11, below. Applicant has resubmitted a preliminary plat proposing biofilter in a stream buffer; having been advised that grading and tree removal do not appear to be permissible uses, the revised preliminary plat now proposes grading, tree removal, and a SWM facility in the landward 50' of buffer. 17-604.A. states that 11 structures, improvements, or activities that may be necessary infrastructure to allow reasonable use of the lot may be allowed in a stream buffer by program authority (local authority/county engineer). My response, based on prior experience, division response to prior development proposals (including county engineer position on Galaxie Farm subdivision where, with ZMA and WPO, with same Engineering design firm, we disallowed SWM facilities in the buffer), code, etc., would be (with your approval) to request that the proposed SWM facility be removed from the buffer. Is it important that Engineering be consistent? If not, reviewers need to bring more items for case -by -case consideration, which places demands on your time, and leaves the design community uncertain of requirements. This proposal combines two lots. I am unsure how this may affect your determination of `necessary to allow reasonable use of the lot'. Please help with two items: 1. In this instance, do we allow tree cutting, grading, and a SWM facility in the landward 50' of the stream buffer? 2. Although away, please place SWM facilities in buffers on Wed meeting Agenda, whether permissible, yes or no, or whether it depends. I will circle back for an update. Cameron needs to know relatively soon. Thanks, Frank GIS Image (development proposal combines TMPs 55-68C and TMP 55-68D) 11/3/20 review item 11: 12 c5 10. Show proposed grading north of 5100sq.ft. parking area required to construct parking area. No proposed grading is shown; grading appears necessary to construct the parking area. 11. Revise preliminary plat to include narrative description /rationale of stream buffer grading and tree removal which appear impermissible, as proposed. Proposed grading and native vegetation removal appear not to be listed (impermissible) under 17-602, -603, -604. A 6-lot subdivision on 0.64 Ac. combined parcel area outside the stream buffer, absence of subdivision road /street appear to exceed limits of both chapter 17 (stream buffer) and chapter 14 (lot access) requirements. Engineering defers to Planning on lot access requirement (appears to be required; it was for Timberwood Square), but directs applicant to review chapter 17, Article V1, Srremn bgffers, for improvements and activities exempt from duties to retain, establish, or manage a stream buffer; types of structures, improvements and activities authorized in a stream buffer (proposed grading is not); and types of structures, improvements and activities which may be allowed in a stream buffer by program authority (items A.-F.). Grading to support proposed 6-lot subdivision exceeds a reasonable interpretation of *reasonable use of the [combined] lot.' Engineering does not object to 6-lot subdivision, only impermissible activities within stream buffer limits. Engineering also draws attention to SWM quality /quantity requirements, and lot access requirements (comments elsewhere). From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ore> Sent: Friday, May 28, 20214:42 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ora> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 141', so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your helpll Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangille@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 13 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 14 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, June 25, 2021 8:21 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat It's kind of true (catch up), but today is the day, thanks, Cameron! From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 20216:08 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, I know you're probably still trying to play catch up things since you were out last week. Have you had a chance to take a look at this one yet? Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Principal Planner Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 20217:48 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Cameron, Thanks for such detailed helpful breakdown. I am checking on proposal to locate a SWM facility in the stream buffer — will let you know, I hope by Wed or so. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend and holiday— best, John From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore> Sent: Friday, May 28, 20214:42 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on 15 the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 14", so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your help) l Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 16 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 6:08 PM To: John Anderson Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, I know you're probably still trying to play catch up things since you were out last week. Have you had a chance to take a look at this one yet? Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Principal Planner Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 20217:48 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Cameron, Thanks for such detailed helpful breakdown. I am checking on proposal to locate a SWM facility in the stream buffer — will let you know, I hope by Wed or so. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend and holiday— best, John From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore> Sent: Friday, May 28, 20214:42 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. 17 I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 14", so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your helpll Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 18 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 7:48 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Cameron, Thanks for such detailed helpful breakdown. I am checking on proposal to locate a SWIM facility in the stream buffer — will let you know, I hope by Wed or so. Thanks, take care, enjoy the weekend and holiday — best, John From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Friday, May 28, 20214:42 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 14', so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your helpll Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleC@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 19 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 4:42 PM To: John Anderson Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - Revised Plat Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove SRC Comments.pdf; SUB202000180 Applicant Comment Response Letter 2nd Submittal.pdf, SUB202000180 Revised Plat 2nd Submittal.pdf Hi John, We reviewed this preliminary plat back in October/November of 2020. There were several deficiencies with the first version of the plat, a handful of which were Engineering related. The applicant requested a deferral on our action on the preliminary plat so that they could revise the plat to address the relevant comments specified in the attached SRC comment letter. The applicant provided a revised plat and comment response letter (both attached). The comments that needed to be addressed are listed under Planning comments on page 2 and 3, comments #1-11. The comments that were combined Planning/Engineering comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary are comments #2, #4, and #11 in the SRC letter. I've taken a cursory look at the revised drawings, and it appears that they have addressed the three comments that were from both of us. At least addressed enough to allow approval of the preliminary. We can get more details from them on the WPO, road plan, and final plat if necessary. Can you take a look at these and let me know if you have any concerns with me approving the preliminary? I'm supposed to take an action on it by Friday of next week. I know you're out of the office until the 14', so just send me an email if you think you'll need more time. Thanks for all of your helpll Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 20 Cameron Langille From: Jennifer Smith Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:19 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: FW: Re -Submission from CDD Portal - Transaction #00016548 Good morning Cameron: I have uploaded the document to County View. Thanks Jen Smith Intake Support Specialist ll Albemarle County — Community Development 401 McIntire Rd. Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-5832 ext. 3835 Jsmith2(d albemarle. org Please Note: We are unable to give timeframes of a permit review. Please track the status of your permit by using the link below. Permit Status and Inspection Status Tracking You can track the status of your permit and scheduled inspections by using the permit number and the following link. https://www.al bema rle.org/gove rnment/comm u n ity-development/request/a ppl ication-tracking-status-update From: Laserfiche-Notification@albemarle.org <Laserfiche-Notification@albemarle.org> Sent: Monday, May 24, 20216:48 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: CDD Submittal <CDDSubmittal@albemarle.org> Subject: Re -Submission from CDD Portal -Transaction #00016548 Re -Submission was made to CDD Portal. Please review. Summary of Submission: Project: BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL App Number: SUB202000180 Name: Justin Shimp Email: justin@shimp-en ing eering com Phone: 434-227-5140 Files Submitted: 55-68C-PSP.pdf, RESPONSE (PRELIM SUB PLAT 05242021).pdf View Files Submitted: http://cob-ifiche03/WebLinkWA/Search.aspx?dbid=2&searchcommand=I[CDD- WebSubmissionsl:f ReceiptNumberl="00016548"} 21 Cameron Langille From: Laserfiche-Notification@albemarle.org Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 6:48 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: CDD Submittal Subject: Re -Submission from CDD Portal - Transaction #00016548 Re -Submission was made to CDD Portal. Please review. Summary of Submission: Project: BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL App Number: SUB202000180 Name: Justin Shimp Email: justin@shimp-engineering.com Phone:434-227-5140 Files Submitted: 55-68C-PSP.pdf, RESPONSE (PRELIM SUB PLAT 05242021).pdf View Files Submitted: http://cob-ifiche03/WebLinkWA/Search.aspx?dbid=2&searchcommand=[[CDD- W ebSubm issions]: [Recei ptNum ber]="00016548") 22 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:27 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi, Cameron, As follow-up to video chat with Justin, Engineering affirmed position that Bamboo Grove storm runoff discharge may not be introduced into (a MH, and thence) a pipe that conveys a tributary to Powell Creek beneath Orchard Drive. Justin explained he'll share this information with Nicole. Thanks, take care, best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:01 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept Cameron, Frank is quite accommodating, we may video yet with Justin —reason: apparent conflict with whatever was allowed at Regents. Justin may want to compare, discuss. Frank is wise to let people have their say, but I just don't see it. Stay tuned! Thanks, Cameron. Be safe! From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Justin Shimp <Justin@shimP-engineering.com>; John Anderson <Ianderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreventerprises.com> Subject: RE: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Colintv fpohlOalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 23 From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM 24 To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! Justin 25 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 1:02 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Frank Pohl; Cameron Langille Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Having a little trouble connecting for some reason. Have to restart teams and will try again. On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:51 PM, John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.ore> wrote: Microsoft Teams meeting Join on your computer or mobile app Click here to join the meeting Learn More I Meeting options <Mail Attachment.ics> 26 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:53 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Sorry Cameron, it's today" in 8 minutes, Frank just accepted, hope you can join! -----Original Appointment ----- From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:51 PM To: John Anderson Subject: Tentative: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove, SWM concept When: Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:00 PM-1:30 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time (US & Canada). Where: Microsoft Teams Meeting 27 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:46 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Cameron Langille; Frank Pohl Subject: Re: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Lets just chat ourselves, I can fill Nicole in as she Is just down the hall. On Dec 16, 2020, at 12:43 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Sure, should I send MS Teams invite? Also, don't know if Cameron can make it at 1pm, but can try... Will invite Frank. Should we invite Nicole? Thanks From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 202011:35 AM To: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Sorry, mix up on my end, could we do 1pm instead? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, Yes, Zoom (or MS Teams) should work. We may be iced in, but are available, and look forward to it. I have conflicts 9-10 and 11-12, tomorrow, otherwise, free. And the rest of the week is fairly open. In the meantime, please continue to think about my note; please advise of mistakes, or errors. I try to avoid mistakes. Frank should be on the call. Cameron and Nicole, each affected in different ways, are welcome to join, but you may just want to discuss with Engineering. Either way is fine —take care, the weather is set to turn! best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 28 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 eat. 3069 From: Justin Shimp <Justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ors> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on - site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a MH, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it 29 some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020 <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 30 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:43 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: Cameron Langille; Frank Pohl Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Sure, should I send MS Teams invite? Also, don't know if Cameron can make it at 1pm, but can try... Will invite Frank. Should we invite Nicole? Thanks From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:35 AM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: 5DP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Sorry, mix up on my end, could we do 1pm instead? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, Yes, Zoom (or MS Teams) should work. We may be iced in, but are available, and look forward to it. I have conflicts 9-10 and 11-12, tomorrow, otherwise, free. And the rest of the week is fairly open. In the meantime, please continue to think about my note; please advise of mistakes, or errors. I try to avoid mistakes. Frank should be on the call. Cameron and Nicole, each affected indifferent ways, are welcome to join, but you may just want to discuss with Engineering. Either way is fine —take care, the weather is set to turn! best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.or2> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept John, 31 Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept 32 Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWIM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 33 Cameron Langille From: Frank Pohl Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:26 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: John Anderson; Cameron Langille; Nicole Scro Subject: RE: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept I missed this... 11. Site planning that respects terrain Proposed project intends to follow the existing terrain and save as many healthy trees as possible. No large retaining walls are planned for the site Stormwater management will be improved on the site using green infrastructure and light imprint tools Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:09 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Re: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. I will read the regulations carefully and get back to John about a call to discuss if needed. On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Frank Pohl <fpohl(@albemarle.org> wrote: I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County foohIPalbemarle.org 34 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. 35 Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWIM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 36 Cameron Langille From: Frank Pohl Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:25 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: John Anderson; Cameron Langille; Nicole Scro Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept This is from the ZMA. ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS: LIGHT IMPRINT Stormwater infrastructure will be mostly in the form of rain gardens, native surface landscaping and other green infrastructure techniques. The site lies adjacent to the stream, so care will be taken to filter and slow down the water travelling through the site as much as possible with tools that work with the existing environmental features The existing topography will be respected and used to enhance the character of the neighborhood. Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:09 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. I will read the regulations carefully and get back to John about a call to discuss if needed. On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Frank Pohl <fgohl@albemarle.org> wrote: I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank 37 Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <Justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreventerprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would 38 take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 39 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:09 PM To: Frank Pohl Cc: John Anderson; Cameron Langille; Nicole Scro Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. I will read the regulations carefully and get back to John about a call to discuss if needed. On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> wrote: I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin 40 On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <ianderson2@albemar1e.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the 41 discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 42 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:04 PM To: John Anderson Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks John, feel free to send me an invite to the meeting, my calendar is up to date. From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:01 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept Cameron, Frank is quite accommodating, we may video yet with Justin —reason: apparent conflict with whatever was allowed at Regents. Justin may want to compare, discuss. Frank is wise to let people have their say, but I just don't see it. Stay tuned! Thanks, Cameron. Be safe! From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@eallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <Oustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscroCa)gallifreventerprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept John, 43 Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <ianderson2(cD a I be marle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards M apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 45 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:01 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: FW: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Cameron, Frank is quite accommodating, we may video yet with Justin —reason: apparent conflict with whatever was allowed at Regents. Justin may want to compare, discuss. Frank is wise to let people have their say, but I just don't see it. Stay tuned! Thanks, Cameron. Be safe! From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohlOalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-eneineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@eallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin fM On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <ianderson2Palbemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. 47 Thanks! -Justin 48 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:59 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: FW: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Well, ... From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: RE: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl(a)albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-eneineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro <nscro@eallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Subject: Re: SDP2020RE: Bamboo Grove, SWIM concept John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. 49 This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020 <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-eneineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ors> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 50 51 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Glad to! —1 am not supportive of the concept. Can you tell? From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:55 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks John, I saw the email you sent. We will wait and see how Justin responds and take it from there. Thanks again for all of your help and effort on this one!! From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:45 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi, Cameron, just sent email to Justin and Nicole —let's wait and see (email sent 12/15/2020 4:43 PM). I would be surprised if Frank supports. No need to video chat, but glad to do that —for any reason, or if you have questions. Thanks, Cameron best, J. Anderson From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:05 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks, Cameron —studying, now... Exhibit and ref. to Regents School helps. Will circle back, shortly. From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:39 PM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, 52 Let me know if you'd like me to set up a meeting between you & I or even both of us plus Justin/Nicole. This is their proposed SWM and discharge channels, so I am going to defer to Engineering on whether this is acceptable. Once you have a chance to take a look at this, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Cameron From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ors> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 53 Cameron Langille From: Frank Pohl Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:58 PM To: Justin Shimp; John Anderson Cc: Cameron Langille; Nicole Scro Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept I agree with John's response. Sincerely, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any 54 alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020 <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 55 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:57 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: Nicole Scro; Frank Pohl; Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Justin, Yes, Zoom (or MS Teams) should work. We may be iced in, but are available, and look forward to it. I have conflicts 9-10 and 11-12, tomorrow, otherwise, free. And the rest of the week is fairly open. In the meantime, please continue to think about my note; please advise of mistakes, or errors. I try to avoid mistakes. Frank should be on the call. Cameron and Nicole, each affected in different ways, are welcome to join, but you may just want to discuss with Engineering. Either way is fine —take care, the weather is set to turn! best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a MFI, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no 56 programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020 <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ors> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 57 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:50 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Cameron Langille; Nicole Scro; Frank Pohl Subject: Re: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. John, Probably best we have a call to discuss. You around for a zoom call the next few days? -Justin On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:43 PM, John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a M14, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): <image002.jpg> Thanks, Justin 58 <image005.jpg> <image003.png> From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 59 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:55 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Frank Pohl Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks John, I saw the email you sent. We will wait and see how Justin responds and take it from there. Thanks again for all of your help and effort on this oneH From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:45 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi, Cameron, just sent email to Justin and Nicole —let's wait and see (email sent 12/15/2020 4:43 PM). I would be surprised if Frank supports. No need to video chat, but glad to do that —for any reason, or if you have questions. Thanks, Cameron best, J. Anderson From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:05 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks, Cameron —studying, now... Exhibit and ref. to Regents School helps. Will circle back, shortly. From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:39 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, Let me know if you'd like me to set up a meeting between you & I or even both of us plus Justin/Nicole. This is their proposed SWM and discharge channels, so I am going to defer to Engineering on whether this is acceptable. Once you have a chance to take a look at this, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Cameron 60 From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-eneineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ors> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 61 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:45 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Frank Pohl Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi, Cameron, just sent email to Justin and Nicole —let's wait and see (email sent 12/15/2020 4:43 PM). I would be surprised if Frank supports. No need to video chat, but glad to do that —for any reason, or if you have questions. Thanks, Cameron best, J. Anderson From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:05 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks, Cameron —studying, now... Exhibit and ref. to Regents School helps. Will circle back, shortly. From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:39 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, Let me know if you'd like me to set up a meeting between you & I or even both of us plus Justin/Nicole. This is their proposed SWM and discharge channels, so I am going to defer to Engineering on whether this is acceptable. Once you have a chance to take a look at this, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Cameron From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If 62 one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 63 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:43 PM To: Justin Shimp; Cameron Langille Cc: Nicole Scro; Frank Pohl Subject: SDP202ORE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Justin, I've copied Frank. This does not work, in my view. In effect, concept abandons initial proposed discharge to a natural receiving stream. That discharge occurs on -site, within the development. Concept presented abandons initial point of discharge ( blue arrow, image left, below) in favor of cutting into an existing off -site VDOT structure to set a NM, proposes to cut into this structure, weakening or even compromising culvert integrity. The existing 60" dbl. line culvert is a state -maintained structure that is not required to be modified with this project. Any alteration of this structure is for single purpose of meeting a perhaps less stringent stormwater water quantity requirement, serves no public purpose, and is —to my view —a distorted reading of administrative code, an improper interpretation of the practical meaning of manmade channel. The existing dbl. line 60" culvert within VDOT right of way (Orchard Drive) is built, was designed to convey runoff from upstream development /watershed, not to have immediately -adjacent development discharge introduced directly into a single line, whether via penetration in top or side of pipe, either of which weaken the structure. There is no programmatic justification that allows consideration of this concept to qualify as `discharge to a manmade channel.' These double line culverts are not a manmade channel, but rather discontinuity of a natural stream limited to the length required for Orchard Drive to span this stream. Up- /downstream is a natural tributary of Powell's Creek, a natural stream. Initial concept (image, below, left, blue arrow) reasonably depicted development discharge as intersecting this tributary upstream of the 60" dbl. line culvert, as it should. We cannot accept this concept. Frank is welcome to advise, but this is not something I would take to him —it is unnecessary, will in nearly every consideration impact a functional 60" dbl. line culvert crossing of a public road negatively ( if not, what is the positive effect?), serves no public use, or public interest, and is unorthodox. Please give it some thought, and feel free to reach out to Frank. To the extent Frank relies on review staff, whatever the circumstance at Regents School, Engineering should not advocate or support accepting this concept, in my view, as a suitable design alternative in response to review item 9. Review item 9 (3-Nov 2020): 9. New stormwater conveyance channel appears to indicate compliance strategy of discharge detention or retention. It is difficult to discern quantity or quality strategy with proposed pi Note: DEQ has notified Local Program Authorities that channel protection requirements lis 870-66 that make use of manmade conveyance that discharges to a natural receiving strear of discharge (even if discharge is at 1 % limit of analysis) meet energy -balance channel pro requirements. Please contact Engineering for more detailed information [Erin Belt, DEQ, i 2020 3:21 PM email]. Revise preliminary plat with schematic details, notes, labels, and/o clarify how pre -developed forest /post -developed impervious areas meet SWM quality (9V and quantity requirements (9VAC25-870-66). Preliminary plat must include conceptual S1 does both. Thanks, Justin 64 IVA., .. __. IR11 .II_ I__ Nr1 • •_� I A .I I Y •_n srr •_r •rr •_n ._n •_2 •rn a_r A \_ I._ 11 La me __ •L• 1 1 11 65 /1209 ,s 55 C --OA-1 1 1205 55-6&C 55-68D -67C 55-68A an 1193 59641 55-68B _ �1 Mod 56-7 119 t �- 1190 •J 55C-0I- From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept forwhat I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 66 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:05 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Thanks, Cameron —studying, now... Exhibit and ref. to Regents School helps. Will circle back, shortly. From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:39 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, Let me know if you'd like me to set up a meeting between you & I or even both of us plus Justin/Nicole. This is their proposed SWM and discharge channels, so I am going to defer to Engineering on whether this is acceptable. Once you have a chance to take a look at this, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Cameron From: Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.orR>; Cameron Langille <blanRille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 67 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:39 PM To: John Anderson Subject: FW: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Attachments: Bamboo Grove SWM Concept.pdf Hi John, Let me know if you'd like me to set up a meeting between you & I or even both of us plus Justin/Nicole. This is their proposed SWM and discharge channels, so I am going to defer to Engineering on whether this is acceptable. Once you have a chance to take a look at this, please let me know your thoughts. Thanks, Cameron From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 68 Cameron Langille From: Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:04 PM To: John Anderson; Cameron Langille Cc: Nicole Scro Subject: Bamboo Grove, SWM concept Attachments: Bamboo Grove SWM Concept.pdf CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi John, I've attached a concept for what I think Nicole should do for SWM. While I don't necessarily agree with how DEQ is interpreting the discharge to natural channel no matter the drainage area that seems to be a set thing now. However, If one discharges into a man made channel that is existing then those standards apply. I'm proposing we insert a manhole into the 60" HDPE culvert (provided it will fit) and then pipe the discharge from Nicole's development into that directly where we can meet the 1% rule for for both channel protection and flood protection. I'll have to prove those calculations I realize but I don't think it will be difficult. We just had a pretty lengthy back and forth with this on the regents school and it was agreed that this approach was allowable. Let me know if you see any issues, Frank or David can give you the details on the regents school situation if that helps. We will put some of the buffer in conserved open space and provide nutrient credits for whatever is required outside of that. Thanks! -Justin 69 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 4:07 PM To: Kevin McDermott Subject: FW: ZMA202000005 Old Dominion Village - Zoning Map Amendment Attachments: March 16, 2020 Submittals.doc Example of email. Email title: Transmittal of ZMA202000005 Old Dominion Village— Revised Application CC: Brenda.loving@vdot.virginia.gov From: Cameron Langille Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:38 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthority.org>; Shawn Maddox <smaddox@albemarle.org>; Michael Dellinger <mdellinger@albemarle.org>; Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org>; Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; vfort@rivanna.org; Josh Kirtley<Joshua.kirtley@vdh.virginia.gov> Subject: ZMA202000005 Old Dominion Village - Zoning Map Amendment Good afternoon, I am the lead reviewer for this Zoning Map Amendment (ZMA) application that was submitted to the County for review. Please see the attached notification memo that was sent out earlier this week. The County is reviewing plans electronically during the Covid-19 pandemic. Below is a link to the application materials for your reference. All files can be downloaded and saved as PDFs to your desktops. Please send me your review comments by Friday, April 24, 2020. Please let me know if you have any issues accessing the application through the web link. LINK: https://Ifweb.albemarle.org/weblink/search.aspx?dbid=3&searchcommand=%7b%SbCDD- P la nni ng%5d:%5 bAppl icatio n N u m ber%5d=%22ZMA202000005%22%7d Thanks, Cameron Cameron Langille I Senior Planner Community Development Department Planning Division blangille@albemarle.org (434) 296-5832 ext. 3432 70 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:48 PM To: Nicole Scro Cc: John Anderson; Justin Shimp; Pranjal Sharma Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove prelim plat 110320.pdf Hi Nicole, John and I looked over the exhibit you sent and the questions regarding Engineering comments #6-9. John & I spoke and we offer the following: • Engineering comment #6: Given nature of design, short length of private street, non-thru condition (no connection), and re -zoning approval, submittal of a road plan application will be required. Engineering has no objections to the perpendicular parking (review item 6, 3-Nov comments /Attached). In considering safety, welfare, and other factors, in this instance Engineering does not object to perpendicular parking on proposed private street serving this development. VDOT standards still apply to street design. • Engineering comment #9: Per the approved rezoning exhibit/plan which showed conceptual rain garden locations for stormwater management, Engineering requests conceptual stormwater design with preliminary plat (item 9). • Engineering comments #7 and #8 are addressed with exhibit sent with the November 25th email, and should carry-over to resubmittal of preliminary plat. • Last, on next round of Engineering review comments, Engineering will remind that an approved road plan and approved WPO plan are prerequisite to final plat approval, and we encourage Applicant to submit both road and WPO plans as soon as possible. Please let me know if you have any other questions about Engineering and/or Planning comments prior to re -submitting the revised preliminary plat. Thanks, Cameron From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:52 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranjal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron, I apologize for not doing this earlier. Yes, we would like to formally request a deferral for the Bamboo Grove preliminary subdivision plat. Let me know your thoughts on the revised plan. I just wanted to check in with you prior to resubmitting. 71 Thank you, Nicole On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:05 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Nicole, Just want to verify: you're intending to resubmit revised plans to address the comments that were identified in the comment letter? If so, you'll need to request a deferral on our action on the plat. We're required to take an action by day 60 (this Friday) unless you request a deferral. All you need to do is send me an email requesting the deferral. From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranlal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! 72 -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 73 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 3:16 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Thank you, Cameron! From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 5:49 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Thanks for sending me this John. I am going to forward this info on to Nicole. One thing I must've left out when we spoke previously is that the applicant went through the private street authorization request process when the rezoning was under review. The private street was authorized by the Commission, so they don't need to file another request. But everything else I concur with and I will let the applicant know. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks for all of your help as always, Cameron From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.orl > Sent: Friday, December4, 20204:23 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Cameron, Thanks for speaking with me this afternoon. Given nature of design, short length of private street, non-thru condition (no connection), and re -zoning approval, Engineering anticipates /requests a road plan, and accents perpendicular parking (review item 6, 3-Nov comments /Attached). In considering safety, welfare, and other factors, in this instance Engineering does not object to perpendicular parking on proposed private street serving this development. We anticipate a private street authorization request. VDOT standards apply to street design. We spoke about Nicole Scro's interest in Engr review items 6-9. Per rezoning exhibit, and our discussion, Engineering requests conceptual stormwater design with preliminary plat (item 9). Items 7, 8 are addressed with exhibit sent with 12/1 email, below, and should carry-over to resubmittal of preliminary plat. Last, on next round of Engineering review comments, Engineering will remind that an approved road plan and approved WPO plan are prerequisite to final plat approval, and we encourage Applicant to submit both road and WPO plans as soon as possible. Please feel free to share this information with Nicole. It was nice speaking with you earlier today. Enjoy the weekend. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 74 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:02 PM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi John, Do you want me to schedule a meeting on Teams sometime in the next day or so so that we can discuss their revisions and see if we agree that the plat is approvable? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but I had comments that needed to get addressed that weren't even about the road, so I'm thinking there are still some deficiencies. Let me know your thoughts and I can send a meeting invite. -Cameron From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pran!al@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 75 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 5:49 PM To: John Anderson Cc: Frank Pohl Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Thanks for sending me this John. I am going to forward this info on to Nicole. One thing I must've left out when we spoke previously is that the applicant went through the private street authorization request process when the rezoning was under review. The private street was authorized by the Commission, so they don't need to file another request. But everything else I concur with and I will let the applicant know. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Thanks for all of your help as always, Cameron From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Friday, December4, 20204:23 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Cameron, Thanks for speaking with me this afternoon. Given nature of design, short length of private street, non-thru condition (no connection), and re -zoning approval, Engineering anticipates /requests a road plan, and accents perpendicular parking (review item 6, 3-Nov comments /Attached). In considering safety, welfare, and other factors, in this instance Engineering does not object to perpendicular parking on proposed private street serving this development. We anticipate a private street authorization request. VDOT standards apply to street design. We spoke about Nicole Scro's interest in Engr review items 6-9. Per rezoning exhibit, and our discussion, Engineering requests conceptual stormwater design with preliminary plat (item 9). Items 7, 8 are addressed with exhibit sent with 12/1 email, below, and should carry-over to resubmittal of preliminary plat. Last, on next round of Engineering review comments, Engineering will remind that an approved road plan and approved WPO plan are prerequisite to final plat approval, and we encourage Applicant to submit both road and WPO plans as soon as possible. Please feel free to share this information with Nicole. It was nice speaking with you earlier today. Enjoy the weekend. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:02 PM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi John, 76 Do you want me to schedule a meeting on Teams sometime in the next day or so so that we can discuss their revisions and see if we agree that the plat is approvable? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but I had comments that needed to get addressed that weren't even about the road, so I'm thinking there are still some deficiencies. Let me know your thoughts and I can send a meeting invite. -Cameron From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.conl Pranjal Sharma <pranlal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 77 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 4:23 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Frank Pohl Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove prelim plat 110320.pdf Cameron, Thanks for speaking with me this afternoon. Given nature of design, short length of private street, non-thru condition (no connection), and re -zoning approval, Engineering anticipates /requests a road plan, and accepts perpendicular parking (review item 6, 3-Nov comments /Attached). In considering safety, welfare, and other factors, in this instance Engineering does not object to perpendicular parking on proposed private street serving this development. We anticipate a private street authorization request. VDOT standards apply to street design. We spoke about Nicole Scro's interest in Engr review items 6-9. Per rezoning exhibit, and our discussion, Engineering requests conceptual stormwater design with preliminary plat (item 9). Items 7, 8 are addressed with exhibit sent with 12/1 email, below, and should carry-over to resubmittal of preliminary plat. Last, on next round of Engineering review comments, Engineering will remind that an approved road plan and approved WPO plan are prerequisite to final plat approval, and we encourage Applicant to submit both road and WPO plans as soon as possible. Please feel free to share this information with Nicole. It was nice speaking with you earlier today. Enjoy the weekend. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:02 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi John, Do you want me to schedule a meeting on Teams sometime in the next day or so so that we can discuss their revisions and see if we agree that the plat is approvable? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but I had comments that needed to get addressed that weren't even about the road, so I'm thinking there are still some deficiencies. Let me know your thoughts and I can send a meeting invite. -Cameron From: Nicole Scro<nscro@2allifreventerprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blan2ille@albemarle.ors>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ors>; Justin Shimp <Justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranial@shimp-en2ineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron and John, 78 We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from V to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 79 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 4:21 PM To: Nicole Scro Cc: John Anderson; Justin Shimp; Pranjal Sharma Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Thanks Nicole, I am granting a 6 month deferral for the resubmission of the revised preliminary, which is the maximum I can grant under Section 14-221 of the Subdivision Ordinance. John & I are still looking at the exhibit you sent, but we will send you an update next week regarding your questions in the first email. Have a great weekend. From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:52 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranjal@ sh i m p-engineering.com> Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron, I apologize for not doing this earlier. Yes, we would like to formally request a deferral for the Bamboo Grove preliminary subdivision plat. Let me know your thoughts on the revised plan. I just wanted to check in with you prior to resubmitting. Thank you, Nicole On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:05 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Nicole, Just want to verify: you're intending to resubmit revised plans to address the comments that were identified in the comment letter? If so, you'll need to request a deferral on our action on the plat. We're required to take an action by day 60 (this Friday) unless you request a deferral. All you need to do is send me an email requesting the deferral. 80 From: Nicole Scro<nscro(o)gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@a1bemar1e.org>; Justin Shimp <iustin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranial@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6% 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gallifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 81 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 82 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 5:48 PM To: John Anderson Subject: RE: are you free Hi John, No worries. It was just you and me on the call, Nicole wasn't there. I'm going to try and set something up for tomorrow if that works for you. -Cameron From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:53 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: are you free Cameron, I really let you down, was Nicole to be on this call? Are you free, now? I would be glad to video /chat. Thanks, and sorry 83 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 3:53 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: are you free Cameron, I really let you down, was Nicole to be on this call? Are you free, now? I would be glad to video /chat. Thanks, and sorry 84 Cameron Langille Subject: Bamboo Grove - Discussion of Private Street Revisions Location: Microsoft Teams Meeting Start: Thu 12/3/2020 1:30 PM End: Thu 12/3/2020 2:00 PM Recurrence: (none) Meeting Status: Meeting organizer Organizer: Cameron Langille Required Attendees: John Anderson John, let me know if this doesn't work and I can reschedule. I've attached the email from Nicole where she is asking us if the revisions are acceptable. I also included the SRC comment letter for reference. Microsoft Teams meeting Join on your computer or mobile app Click here to join the meeting Learn More I Meeting options 85 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:53 PM To: John Anderson Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi John, Sorry about missing your call earlier today on this one. The day got away from me due to the BOS meeting and some other stuff that came up. I'm going to send you a Teams invite so we can discuss a couple things, it shouldn't take long. In regard to the plan being in your queue -we had sent them comments about two weeks ago and you had identified some comments that needed to be addressed prior to approval of the preliminary. I had some also. Based on Nicole's email, they are gong to re -submit a revised plat for us to review, but it hasn't come in yet. Once they send it to me, I will forward it to you. Thanks, Cameron From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:30 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi, Cameron, please update us... project is not in my queue, and it does not appear that it needs to be. Thanks From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:52 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranlal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron, I apologize for not doing this earlier. Yes, we would like to formally request a deferral for the Bamboo Grove preliminary subdivision plat. Let me know your thoughts on the revised plan. I just wanted to check in with you prior to resubmitting. Thank you, Nicole On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:05 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Nicole, 86 Just want to verify: you're intending to resubmit revised plans to address the comments that were identified in the comment letter? If so, you'll need to request a deferral on our action on the plat. We're required to take an action by day 60 (this Friday) unless you request a deferral. All you need to do is send me an email requesting the deferral. From: Nicole Scro<nscro@eallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore>; Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranial@shimp-eneineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. i Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro 87 Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 88 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:30 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi, Cameron, please update us... project is not in my queue, and it does not appear that it needs to be. Thanks From: Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:52 AM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranjal@ sh i m p-engineering.com> Subject: Re: 5UB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron, I apologize for not doing this earlier. Yes, we would like to formally request a deferral for the Bamboo Grove preliminary subdivision plat. Let me know your thoughts on the revised plan. I just wanted to check in with you prior to resubmitting. Thank you, Nicole On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:05 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Nicole, Just want to verify: you're intending to resubmit revised plans to address the comments that were identified in the comment letter? If so, you'll need to request a deferral on our action on the plat. We're required to take an action by day 60 (this Friday) unless you request a deferral. All you need to do is send me an email requesting the deferral. From: Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <Justin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranlal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. 89 Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC 90 www.ea I I ifreybui Ids.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 91 Cameron Langille From: Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 11:52 AM To: Cameron Langille Cc: John Anderson; Justin Shimp; Pranjal Sharma Subject: Re: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron, I apologize for not doing this earlier. Yes, we would like to formally request a deferral for the Bamboo Grove preliminary subdivision plat. Let me know your thoughts on the revised plan. I just wanted to check in with you prior to resubmitting. Thank you, Nicole On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:05 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Nicole, Just want to verify: you're intending to resubmit revised plans to address the comments that were identified in the comment letter? If so, you'll need to request a deferral on our action on the plat. We're required to take an action by day 60 (this Friday) unless you request a deferral. All you need to do is send me an email requesting the deferral. From: Nicole Scro <nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Justin Shimp <iustin@shimp-engineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranlal@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). 92 We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro I Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 93 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:51 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Cameron, generally available, 1:30 MS Teams video, otherwise free till 5:30 — you, me, others? Thanks From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 7:02 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi John, Do you want me to schedule a meeting on Teams sometime in the next day or so so that we can discuss their revisions and see if we agree that the plat is approvable? I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but I had comments that needed to get addressed that weren't even about the road, so I'm thinking there are still some deficiencies. Let me know your thoughts and I can send a meeting invite. -Cameron From: Nicole Scro<nscro@aallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.orQ>; Justin Shimp <lustin@shimp-eneineering.com>; Pranjal Sharma <pranial@shimp-eneineering.com> Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from 1' to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro 94 Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 95 Cameron Langille From: Nicole Scro<nscro@gallifreyenterprises.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:04 PM To: Cameron Langille; John Anderson; Justin Shimp; Pranjal Sharma Subject: SUB202000180 - Bamboo Grove Attachments: Bamboo Grove - Preliminary Plat SUB202000180 First Set of Staff Comments.pdf; EXH I BIT_BAM BOOG ROV E.pdf CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Cameron and John, We just wanted to check in with you regarding the comments on Bamboo Grove's private street design (comment C4 on page 7). We rearranged the lot lines so that all of the parking spaces off of the private street are on residential lots. The travelway and the rest of the private street will be on an open space lot. With this change, and the planting strip revised from V to 6', 1 believe we satisfy the requirements for the private street design, but we wanted to check with you before resubmitting. Attached is the preliminarily revised plan. Let us know your thoughts. Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving! -Nicole Nicole M. Scro Gallifrey, LLC www.gailifreybuilds.com 434-218-0513 NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may constitute an attorney -client communication that is privileged at law. It is not intended for transmission to, or receipt by, any unauthorized persons. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying it, and notify the sender by reply e-mail, so that our address records can be corrected. Thank you. 96 Cameron Langille From: Dan Mahon Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:27 PM To: Cameron Langille; Tim Padalino Subject: Re: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Peace and Feast yall! Dan Mahon, Greenway/Blueway Supervisor Department of Parks and Recreation Albemarle County, Va 434-806-3981 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:22:29 PM To: Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org> Cc: Dan Mahon <DMAHON@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Thanks Tim! From: Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:09 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Dan Mahon <DMAHON@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Hi Cameron, Sorry for not getting back to you by the deadline. Parks & Rec has No Objection to the proposed preliminary plat. Please let Dan and I know if you have any questions or want to discuss further. Thanks; and I hope you and Alyssa enjoy the Thanksgiving holiday --- Tim Padalino, AICP (434)-296-5844 x 3207 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:45 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <d0ames2@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.org>; Matthew Wentland <mwentland@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org>; Michael Dellinger <mdellinger@albemarle.org>; Shawn Maddox <smaddox@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthoritv.org>; vfort@rivanna.org; Dyon Vega <DVega@rivanna.org>; Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Brian Becker <bbecker@albemarle.org> 97 Cc: Brenda Loving <Brenda.Loving@vdot.virginia.gov> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Good afternoon, This preliminary subdivision plat has been submitted for it's first review. Attached are the following applications materials: • Preliminary Plat • Preliminary Plat Application The application materials are also available in County View and can be accessed through this link: https:Hlfwe b.a I bema rle.org/webl i n k/sea rch.aspx?d bid=3&sea rchcom ma nd=%7b%5 bCDD- Pla nni ng%5d:%5 bAppl ication N um ber%5d=%22SU B202000180%22%7d Review comments are due to me (either via email or in County View) by Friday, November 13, 2020. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Cameron Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleC@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 No Cameron Langille From: Tim Padalino Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:09 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Dan Mahon Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Hi Cameron, Sorry for not getting back to you by the deadline. Parks & Rec has No Objection to the proposed preliminary plat. Please let Dan and I know if you have any questions or want to discuss further. Thanks; and I hope you and Alyssa enjoy the Thanksgiving holiday --- Tim Padalino, AICP (434)-296-5844 x 3207 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:45 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Matthew Wentland <mwentland@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org>; Michael Dellinger <mdellinger@albemarle.org>; Shawn Maddox <smaddox@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthority.org>; vfort@rivanna.org; Dyon Vega <DVega@rivanna.org>; Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Brian Becker <bbecker@albemarle.org> Cc: Brenda Loving <Brenda.Loving@vdot.virginia.gov> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Good afternoon, This preliminary subdivision plat has been submitted for it's first review. Attached are the following applications materials: • Preliminary Plat • Preliminary Plat Application The application materials are also available in County View and can be accessed through this link: https://Ifweb.albema rle.org/weblink/sea rch.aspx?dbid=3&sea rchcom mand=%7b % 5bCDD- Pla n n i ng%5d:%5bAppl icationNu mber%5d=%22SU B202000180%22%7d Review comments are due to me (either via email or in County View) by Friday, November 13, 2020. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Cameron Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner Il Albemarle County m blangille@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 100 Cameron Langille From: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 5:26 PM To: Max Greene Cc: Cameron Langille Subject: Re: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove — Preliminary Plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. agreed Adam J. Moore, P.E. I Assistant Resident Engineer — Land Use VDOT - Charlottesville Residency 701 VDOT Way I Charlottesville I VA office 434.422.9782 On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 8:01 AM Greene, Max <max.ereene@vdot.virginia.gov> wrote: Cameron, I think they can be addressed with the site plan and final plat. Thanks, Max Max Greene Architect/Engineer I Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 max. a reen e@vd ot. vi rei ni a. eov On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 7:26 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Max, Does VDOT want these comments addressed prior to approval of the preliminary plat? 101 -Cameron From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 2:55 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove— Preliminary Plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Please find the attached review comment letter. Max Greene Architect/Engineer) Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 max.ereene@vdot.virei nia. eov 102 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:19 PM To: Justin Shimp Cc: Nicole Scro; Christopher Fuller Subject: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat - SRC Comments Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove SRC Comments.pdf Hi everyone, Attached you will find the Site Review Committee (SRC) comments for this preliminary plat. Please be aware that I am still waiting to receive comments or approvals from RWSA and Fire Rescue. You will notice that there are 11 comments under the Planning Division comments that must be addressed through submission of a revised plat prior to approval of this application. Many of these comments are tied to comments from the Engineering Division, which are included in the letter. If the plat isn't revised to address those comments, I will have to deny the preliminary plat application. I am required by the Code to take an action (approval or denied) on preliminary plats by day 60 of the review cycle, which is Friday December 4, 2020. My suggestion would be for you to request a deferral on my action on the plat, as permitted under Section 14-221 of the Subdivision Ordinance. You are allowed to request deferral of my action for up to 6 months. This will allow time for you to make the revisions and re -submit it to us for review. All you need to do is email me and request a deferral. Please let me know if you have any questions or if you need clarification on anything regarding the process forward. Thanks and have a good weekend, Cameron Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 103 Cameron Langille From: Mazurowski, Alan<alan.mazurowski@vdh.virginia.gov> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:59 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: Bamboo Grove review Attachments: Bamboo Grove Subdivision, preliminary plat review.doc CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Cameron, See attached comment letter Thanks, Alan Alan Mazurowski Environmental Health Supervisor Onsite Sewage & Private Well Programs Thomas Jefferson Health District 1138 Rose Hill Drive Charlottesville, VA 22906 434-972-4306 office 434-972-4310fax 104 Cameron Langille From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:01 AM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Adam Moore Subject: Re: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove — Preliminary Plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Cameron, I think they can be addressed with the site plan and final plat. Thanks, Max Max Greene Architect/ Engineer I Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 max.greene@vdot.vireinia. g On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 7:26 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote: Hi Max, Does VDOT want these comments addressed prior to approval of the preliminary plat? -Cameron From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 2:55 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Justin Shimp <iustin@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove— Preliminary Plat 105 CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Please find the attached review comment letter. Max Greene Architect/Engineer I Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 m ax.0 reen e@vd ot. vi rei ni a.9oy 106 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 7:26 PM To: Greene, Max Cc: Adam Moore Subject: RE: SUB-2020-001 SO- Bamboo Grove — Preliminary Plat Hi Max, Does VDOT want these comments addressed prior to approval of the preliminary plat? -Cameron From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 2:55 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Cc: Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Justin Shimp <justin@shimp-engineering.com> Subject: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove — Preliminary Plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Please find the attached review comment letter. Max Greene Architect/ Engineer I Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 max.ereene@vdot.vireinia.gov 107 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4A8 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL . [ Engineering review comment ] That's a great report. I look forward to seeing you around. We miss everyone. I saw Rachel, was tempted to ask for ID. I have not seen her in 2020 —so it seems. Glad you're hanging in there —let us know if there's anything we can do —Engineering reviewers are able to leave documents at front desk for pickup, etc. Glad to. From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:44 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] It's really busy but I'm hanging in there. I hope you're doing well too. I'll see you in the office sometime soon, I'm coming in usually one or twice a week. From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:24 PM To: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] Cameron, you bet —hope you're doing ok, and that things are going well. Take care, From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:21 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] Thanks John! From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 20201:14 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] The Review for the following application has been completed: Application Number = SUB202000180, Preliminary Plat 108 Reviewer = John Anderson Review Status = Requested Changes Completed Date = 11/03/2020 This email was sent from County View Production. Cameron, Thanks for your patience. Attached also in CV. Please share with Applicant (Nicole Scro) and Owner at your convenience. Engineering has not sent preliminary plat review comments to either. Thanks, again, best, I Anderson -x3069 109 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:44 PM To: John Anderson Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL . [ Engineering review comment ] It's really busy but I'm hanging in there. I hope you're doing well too. I'll see you in the office sometime soon, I'm coming in usually one or twice a week. From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:24 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] Cameron, you bet —hope you're doing ok, and that things are going well. Take care, From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:21 PM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] Thanks John! From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 20201:14 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] The Review for the following application has been completed: Application Number = SUB202000180, Preliminary Plat Reviewer = John Anderson Review Status = Requested Changes Completed Date = 11/03/2020 This email was sent from County View Production. Cameron, Thanks for your patience. Attached also in CV. Please share with Applicant (Nicole Scro) and Owner at your convenience. Engineering has not sent preliminary plat review comments to either. 110 Thanks, again, best, J. Anderson -0069 111 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:24 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL . [ Engineering review comment ] Cameron, you bet —hope you're doing ok, and that things are going well. Take care, From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:21 PM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] Thanks John! From: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 20201:14 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY- DIGITAL. [ Engineering review comment ] The Review for the following application has been completed: Application Number = SUB202000180, Preliminary Plat Reviewer = John Anderson Review Status = Requested Changes Completed Date = 11/03/2020 This email was sent from County View Production. Cameron, Thanks for your patience. Attached also in CV. Please share with Applicant (Nicole Scro) and Owner at your convenience. Engineering has not sent preliminary plat review comments to either. Thanks, again, best, J. Anderson -x3069 112 Cameron Langille From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:14 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000180 BAMBOO GROVE - PRELIMINARY - DIGITAL . [ Engineering review comment i Attachments: SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove prelim plat 110320.pdf The Review for the following application has been completed: Application Number = SUB202000180, Preliminary Plat Reviewer = John Anderson Review Status = Requested Changes Completed Date = 11/03/2020 This email was sent from County View Production. Cameron, Thanks for your patience. Attached also in CV. Please share with Applicant (Nicole Scro) and Owner at your convenience. Engineering has not sent preliminary plat review comments to either. Thanks, again, best, J. Anderson -x3069 113 Cameron Langille From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 2:55 PM To: Cameron Langille Cc: Adam Moore; Justin Shimp Subject: SUB-2020-00180- Bamboo Grove — Preliminary Plat Attachments: SUB-2020-00180 - Bamboo Grove - PP - Dated 10-05-2020.pdf CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Please find the attached review comment letter. Max Greene Architect/ Engineer I Land Use Southern Culpeper District Charlottesville Res. Admin. Office: 434-422-9894 Cell: 434-906-6415 max.greene@vdot.vireinia.gov 114 Cameron Langille From: Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthority.org> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 12:05 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Cameron, I recommend SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat for approval with the following conditions: Utility plan approval will be required priorto final plat approval. Submit 3 copies and a PDF of the utility plan for review. RWSA sewer capacity certification will be required. Show existing sewer easement along Orchard Drive. Thanks, Richard Nelson Civil Engineer Albemarle County Service Authority 168 Spotnap Road Charlottesville, Virginia 22911 (434) 977-4511 From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:45 PM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Matthew Wentland <mwentland@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org>; Michael Dellinger <mdellinger@albemarle.org>; Shawn Maddox <smaddox@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Richard Nelson <rnelson@serviceauthority.org>; vfort@rivanna.org; Dyon Vega <DVega@rivanna.org>; Adam Moore <Adam.Moore@vdot.virginia.gov>; Brian Becker <bbecker@albemarle.org> Cc: Brenda Loving <Brenda.Loving@vdot.virginia.gov> Subject: Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat Good afternoon, This preliminary subdivision plat has been submitted for it's first review. Attached are the following applications materials: • Preliminary Plat • Preliminary Plat Application The application materials are also available in County View and can be accessed through this link: https:Hlfwe b.a I bema rle.ore/webl i n k/sea rch.aspx?d bid=3&sea rchcom ma nd=%7b%5 bCDD- P la nni ng%5d:%5 bAppl icatio n N um ber%5d=%22SU B202000180%22%7d Review comments are due to me (either via email or in County View) by Friday, November 13, 2020. 115 Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Cameron Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 116 Cameron Langille From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Attachments: Good afternoon, Cameron Langille Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:45 PM Frank Pohl; David lames; John Anderson; Matthew Wentland; Emily Cox; Michael Dellinger, Shawn Maddox, Tim Padalino; Richard Nelson; vfort@rivanna.org; Dyon Vega; Adam Moore; Brian Becker Brenda Loving Transmittal of SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove Preliminary Plat SRC Distribution Memo 2020-10-05.docx; SUB202000180 Application 2020-10-05.pdf, SUB202000180 Plat - Submittal (First) Preliminary Plat 2020-10-05.pdf This preliminary subdivision plat has been submitted for it's first review. Attached are the following applications materials: • Preliminary Plat • Preliminary Plat Application The application materials are also available in County View and can be accessed through this link: https:Hlfwe b.a I bema rle.ore/webl i n k/sea rch.aspx?d bid=3&sea rchcom ma nd=%7b%5 bCDD- P l a n n i ne%5d:%5 bAp p l i cat io n N u m be r%5d=%22SU B202000180%22%7 d Review comments are due to me (either via email or in County View) by Friday, November 13, 2020. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, Cameron Cameron Langille (pronounced "LAN-JILL") Senior Planner 11 Albemarle County blangilleCc@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3432 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902 117 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:14 AM Subject: Transmittal for SRC Distribution Memo for October 5, 2020 Submittals Attachments: SRC Distribution Memo 2020-10-05.docx Good morning! Please read the email below as well as the attached transmittal for updated information regarding SRC Meetings. The Site Review Committee Meeting scheduled for Thursday, October 23, 2020 at 10 a.m. will not be held. The Site Review Committee Meeting scheduled for Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10 a.m. will not be held. The Site Review Committee Meeting scheduled for Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 10 a.m. will not be held. Attached you will find the Transmittal for the SDP -SUB (SRC) Projects for the 10/5/2020 Submittal. Please remember you may have to Ctrl + Click to open the links and allow time for larger files to load. Thank you! Have a nice day! Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning 401 McIntire Road, North Wing Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 118 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:05 AM To: Cameron Langille; Mariah Gleason Subject: Public Notice for SRC items Good morning! Just letting you know that the letters for your SRC items were placed in outgoing mail this morning. The hard copies have been placed in your mailboxes. I have also uploaded them to CV. Have a nice day! Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant — Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.ore (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 119 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:27 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SRC Letter - Please review and respond Thanks! From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:26 PM To: Marsha Alley <malley3@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Letter - Please review and respond Hi Marsha, This is good to send out. Thanks! -Cameron From: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:06 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Subject: SRC Letter - Please review and respond Hi Cameron! Please take a look at the letter to go out tomorrow. Let me know if you have any revisions or if it is okay to send out. No need to sign it and also disregard the notary page. Thanks so much! Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.org (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 120 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:06 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: SRC Letter - Please review and respond Attachments: Bamboo Grove (SUB2020-180) SRC APO Letter First Notice.docx Hi Cameron! Please take a look at the letter to go out tomorrow. Let me know if you have any revisions or if it is okay to send out. No need to sign it and also disregard the notary page. Thanks so much! Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.ore (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 121 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 9:46 AM To: Cameron Langille Subject: RE: SRC Items Thanks, Cameron! @ From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 5:32 PM To: Marsha Alley <malley3@albemarle.org>; Mariah Gleason <mgleason@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items Hi Marsha, The legal ad for SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove is now in County View. Please let me know if you need anything else from me. Have a great weekend! From: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.ore> Sent: Friday, October 9, 202012:18 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ore>; Mariah Gleason <maleason(c@albemarle.ore> Subject: SRC Items Hi friends! @ Hope you've had a great week and are looking forward to pleasant weekend! I just wanted to touch base on your SRC items. Is there any chance that you may have the legal ads completed by midday Monday? No pressure. As usual, I'm just getting my ducks in a row for processing. The ads are helpful in being sure that I am including the correct parcel number(s) for notifications. I am leaving today at 12:30 pm so like I said, this is just prep work ... no pressure! Have a wonderful weekend! Marsha Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.ore (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 122 Cameron Langille From: Cameron Langille Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 5:32 PM To: Marsha Alley; Mariah Gleason Subject: RE: SRC Items Hi Marsha, The legal ad for SUB202000180 Bamboo Grove is now in County View. Please let me know if you need anything else from me. Have a great weekend! From: Marsha Alley <malley3@albemarle.org> Sent: Friday, October 9, 202012:18 PM To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Mariah Gleason <mgleason@albemarle.org> Subject: SRC Items Hi friends! O Hope you've had a great week and are looking forward to pleasant weekend! I just wanted to touch base on your SRC items. Is there any chance that you may have the legal ads completed by midday Monday? No pressure. As usual, I'm just getting my ducks in a row for processing. The ads are helpful in being sure that I am including the correct parcel number(s) for notifications. I am leaving today at 12:30 pm so like I said, this isjust prep work ... no pressure! Have a wonderful weekend! Marsha Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.ore (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 123 Cameron Langille From: Marsha Alley Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:18 PM To: Cameron Langille; Mariah Gleason Subject: SRC Items Hi friends! @ Hope you've had a great week and are looking forward to pleasant weekend! I just wanted to touch base on your SRC items. Is there any chance that you may have the legal ads completed by midday Monday? No pressure. As usual, I'm just getting my ducks in a row for processing. The ads are helpful in being sure that I am including the correct parcel number(s) for notifications. I am leaving today at 12:30 pm so like I said, this is just prep work ... no pressure! Have a wonderful weekend! Marsha Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning Albemarle County mallev3@albemarle.ore (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 124