HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB202000048 Correspondence 2021-04-02Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 10:04 PM
To: Bethany Velasquez
Cc: Steve Krohn (skrohn@resortscompanies.com); Garrett Smith; Seth Roderick; Don Franco
Subject: RE: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Attachments: Easement_Plat_Checklist.pdf
Hi Bethany,
Thanks for giving me an update. I was CC'd on some emails between the County Attorney, County Engineer, and the
developer's team regarding these easements about a month ago but I haven't heard any updates in a little while.
Now that the County Attorney and County Engineer have said that the easements can move forward as proposed, a new
easement plat application will need to be submitted. SUB202000048 had comments sent back on April 6, 2020, but a
resubmittal to address comments was not submitted within 6 months, as is required by the Subdivision Ordinance. So,
that plat is deemed as withdrawn. This can still be processed and approved, but a new application will need to be
submitted. I've attached a PDF of the application to this email. Once we receive the application and fee, the County will
work on drafting the deed.
Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks,
Cameron Langille
(pronounced "LAN-JILL")
Senior Planner 11
Albemarle County
blangilleCc@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x3432
401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:56 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Steve Krohn (skrohn@resortscompanies.com) <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Garrett Smith
<gsmith@resortscompanies.com>; Seth Roderick<sroderick@monteverdedesigns.com>; Don Franco
<DFranco@roudabush.com>
Subject: RE: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
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Hi Cameron,
I hope you are doing well. Based on a meeting with Frank Pohl last week regarding the sidewalk easement plat for
Belvedere. It appears that everybody is on board with creating easements on the sidewalk portions. I've attached a copy
of a revised plat showing the updated lot ownerships and also the building locations relative to the easements.
Andy Herrick will be drafting the necessary Deed of Easement that this plat attaches to, and County Legal and
Engineering will drive its language so that it mirrors what the County has so sign with VDOT. Frank Pohl has asked that
we get plat approval subject to the Deed language, which will be provided upon approval of the plat.
Please let me know if you have any questions or need any additional information.
Thanks!
Bethany Velasquez
Roudabush, Gale & Associates
434-977-0205
From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:05 PM
To: Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>; Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Subject: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Hi Bethany & Don,
Attached you will find the first review comments for this plat. Please note comment #1 from the Planning Division, and
subsequent comments from Engineering, transportation planning, and VDOT staff regarding locating new public
easements on private lots.
When new public easements containing road improvements (such as sidewalks) are proposed on private lots, the
developer must enter into a three-way maintenance agreement with the County and VDOT. This requires a vote by the
Board of Supervisors. This is not unique just to Belvedere, but all properties in the County with this type of easement
proposed. Upon consultation with the Planning Director, County Engineer and County Attorney's office, a better
solution would be to revise the parcel boundaries of each lot through a boundary line adjustment unless this would
conflict with the Zoning Ordinance, Subdivision Ordinance, or Code of Development regulation. It does not appear that
there would be any issues with doing the BLA instead. However, I need you to verify whether you have already looked
into this option and identified an issue.
If you can go the BLA route, you do not need to submit a new application and fee to me. You'd simply need to revise the
plat so that it complies with all applicable Code requirements under Section 14-208.1 and the Belvedere Code of
Development. I have attached a copy of a BLA application that includes a checklist of the applicable code sections for
your reference. Additionally, the County would be able to refund you the fee difference. Easement plats are $581.00,
but BLAB are only $215.00, so you'd be eligible for a $366.00 refund. If you go this route, contact Jennifer Pritchett at
jpritchett@albemarle.ors and she can initiate the refund process.
Please do not hesitate to ask me any follow-up questions if you have concerns with any of this. If you revise the plat and
want to go the BLA route, just reply to this email confirming that's what you intend to do. You can then re -submit the
revised plat to me electronically via email whenever you're ready.
Talk to you soon,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blaneille@albemarle.ore
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
Cameron Langille
From: Bethany Velasquez < Bethany@roudabush.com >
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 12:56 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Cc: Steve Krohn (skrohn@resortscompanies.com); Garrett Smith; Seth Roderick; Don Franco
Subject: RE: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Attachments: SIDEWALK EASEMENTS-20210325.pdf
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Hi Cameron,
I hope you are doing well. Based on a meeting with Frank Pohl last week regarding the sidewalk easement plat for
Belvedere. It appears that everybody is on board with creating easements on the sidewalk portions. I've attached a copy
of a revised plat showing the updated lot ownerships and also the building locations relative to the easements.
Andy Herrick will be drafting the necessary Deed of Easement that this plat attaches to, and County Legal and
Engineering will drive its language so that it mirrors what the County has so sign with VDOT. Frank Pohl has asked that
we get plat approval subject to the Deed language, which will be provided upon approval of the plat.
Please let me know if you have any questions or need any additional information.
Thanks!
Bethany Velasquez
Roudabush, Gale & Associates
434-977-0205
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:05 PM
To: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>; Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Subject: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Hi Bethany & Don,
Attached you will find the first review comments for this plat. Please note comment #1 from the Planning Division, and
subsequent comments from Engineering, transportation planning, and VDOT staff regarding locating new public
easements on private lots.
When new public easements containing road improvements (such as sidewalks) are proposed on private lots, the
developer must enter into a three-way maintenance agreement with the County and VDOT. This requires a vote by the
Board of Supervisors. This is not unique just to Belvedere, but all properties in the County with this type of easement
proposed. Upon consultation with the Planning Director, County Engineer and County Attorney's office, a better
solution would be to revise the parcel boundaries of each lot through a boundary line adjustment unless this would
conflict with the Zoning Ordinance, Subdivision Ordinance, or Code of Development regulation. It does not appear that
there would be any issues with doing the BLA instead. However, I need you to verify whether you have already looked
into this option and identified an issue.
If you can go the BLA route, you do not need to submit a new application and fee to me. You'd simply need to revise the
plat so that it complies with all applicable Code requirements under Section 14-208.1 and the Belvedere Code of
Development. I have attached a copy of a BLA application that includes a checklist of the applicable code sections for
your reference. Additionally, the County would be able to refund you the fee difference. Easement plats are $581.00,
but BLAB are only $215.00, so you'd be eligible for a $366.00 refund. If you go this route, contact Jennifer Pritchett at
0pritchett@albemarle.org and she can initiate the refund process.
Please do not hesitate to ask me any follow-up questions if you have concerns with any of this. If you revise the plat and
want to go the BLA route, just reply to this email confirming that's what you intend to do. You can then re -submit the
revised plat to me electronically via email whenever you're ready.
Talk to you soon,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blangille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
Cameron Langille
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:13 PM
To: Frank Pohl
Cc: Steve Krohn; Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille; Andy Herrick
Subject: RE: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thanks for the further explanation. I think Steve will try to ring you shortly, and I'll join that call if he let's me know
when he rings you.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:02 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
I apologize for my lack of clarity. Before moving forward with easements/ROW adjustments, we will need confirmation
that the ramps cannot be installed per design within the right-of-way. Unfortunately, the County was not involved in the
discussions between VDOT and the contractor/owner. I think a discussion with the design engineer and possibly a site
visit is in order at some point.
Staff has been directed to accept maintenance agreements for projects that were approved prior to the policy change
this past year. I realize there may be unforeseen circumstances that may necessitate an agreement but it is intended to
be the exception and only if absolutely necessary. If the ramps cannot be modified to meet VDOT standards within the
existing ROW, the first choice from a County perspective is to negotiate public ROW dedications from the individual land
owners. This should be possible for the lots still owned by the builder where construction hasn't started. If this is not
possible, easements may be the last option, but not until ROW efforts are exhausted. (Maybe there is another reason
ROW dedications will not work, like setbacks?)
If you have a moment, I think a call would help me understand all the issues a little better before scheduling a meeting
with the engineer.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl(@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:15 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thanks for this thread, Frank. We do appreciate it.
Am I correct in interpreting that based on the thread you've now verified the existing ramps that we reworked are
satisfactory to Albemarle County since they are satisfactory in the eyes of VDOT? Should I proceed to have the engineer
who's helping us get the roads conveyed contact you to go over any further steps to satisfy your department? Please let
me know.
Once the engineering is satisfied with the structures that are in place, we'll submit a new as -built exhibit to planning and
engage them about the ramp configurations and the challenges we have faced.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<bla ngiIle@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase I I B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Please refer below.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Moore, Adam<adam.mooreCa@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: Max Greene <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Hi Frank,
That arrangement is still possible. Here is the link to the appropriate section of the design standards:
VDOT Design Standards: Curb and Entrance Items
If this is the spot in Belvedere I'm thinking of I went
out with Joel some time ago to look at ramps. Essentially the ramps that had been constructed did not
meet the standards due to various slopes and cross slope deficiencies. I do not think it was the
'.shape". Maybe their engineer figured converting them to
another type may facilitate obtaining the requisite slopes and dimensions.
Adam
J. Moore, P.E.
Asst. Res. Engr - Land Use Charlottesville Residency
Virginia
Department of Transportation
434-422-9782
adam.mooreCrDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Greene, Max <max.greene@ydot.yir¢inia.goy> wrote:
Frank,
The CG-12 detail you circled is the one I've been preferring.
This detail appears to work best with visually impaired individuals.
We don't want pedestrians walking out into the intersection.
Adam,
Do you have any clarification?
Respectfully,
Max
Max Greene
Land Development Engineer - Land Use
Charlottesville Residency
Virginia Department of Transportation
434-906-6415
max.greeneCDVDOT. Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:34 AM Frank Pohl <foohl@albemarle.org> wrote:
Adam/Max,
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Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
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434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrickaherrick@albemarle.org>
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Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thank you, Andy. Our engineer will be in touch with Frank Pohl about this.
As a brief explanation for your benefit, the sidewalks were originally built as designed in early 2018 in accordance with
the approved road plan. However, after the sidewalk design was approved by the County, but before their
construction was commenced, VDOT promulgated new requirements for flared ADA ramps. Regrettably, we were not
aware of those changes until the construction was completed. After the sidewalks were fully built and we learned of
the new VDOT requirements, we paid to have our contractor rework the sidewalk termination points to add flare
features in accordance with the new VDOT regulations because we were informed that VDOT would not accept the
streets otherwise.
We're sorry for all of the trouble this has caused. We thought we had dotted all of our is and crossed our is properly.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith CdSori neCreekLivine.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
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Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
1.to build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2.to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
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The ramps should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confi ni the correct HC ramp with VDOT, just in case.
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl
(fpohl@albeniarle.or¢), the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttorney
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
"972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
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To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement. The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were
not prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots
identified that had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure
the problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries
or setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will
enable VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements
and a maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested
evidence for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries
are adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat
was deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue
this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
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Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahernck@albeniarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1.Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 11B sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 11B roads, Seth Roderick, will be
reviewing the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to
have your review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots
in Phase 110; where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
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I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you
have a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2.Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:55 PM
To: Frank Pohl; Garrett Smith
Cc: Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille; Andy Herrick
Subject: RE: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Frank, I got your voicemail and will call you before end of day. We've been working to get that done, and I'll fill you in
when we talk. I have to hop on two scheduled calls but will try you before 5:00.
Steve Krohn
(434)220-7701
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:02 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
I apologize for my lack of clarity. Before moving forward with easements/ROW adjustments, we will need confirmation
that the ramps cannot be installed per design within the right-of-way. Unfortunately, the County was not involved in the
discussions between VDOT and the contractor/owner. I think a discussion with the design engineer and possibly a site
visit is in order at some point.
Staff has been directed to accept maintenance agreements for projects that were approved prior to the policy change
this past year. I realize there may be unforeseen circumstances that may necessitate an agreement but it is intended to
be the exception and only if absolutely necessary. If the ramps cannot be modified to meet VDOT standards within the
existing ROW, the first choice from a County perspective is to negotiate public ROW dedications from the individual land
owners. This should be possible for the lots still owned by the builder where construction hasn't started. If this is not
possible, easements may be the last option, but not until ROW efforts are exhausted. (Maybe there is another reason
ROW dedications will not work, like setbacks?)
If you have a moment, I think a call would help me understand all the issues a little better before scheduling a meeting
with the engineer.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle Countv
foohl@albemarle.org
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
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Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thanks for this thread, Frank. We do appreciate it.
Am I correct in interpreting that based on the thread you've now verified the existing ramps that we reworked are
satisfactory to Albemarle County since they are satisfactory in the eyes of VDOT? Should I proceed to have the engineer
who's helping us get the roads conveyed contact you to go over any further steps to satisfy your department? Please let
me know.
Once the engineering is satisfied with the structures that are in place, we'll submit a new as -built exhibit to planning and
engage them about the ramp configurations and the challenges we have faced.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
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<blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Please refer below.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
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From: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@ydot.yirginia.goy>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: Max Greene <max.greenePydot.yirginia.goy>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Hi Frank,
That arrangement is still possible. Here is the link to the appropriate section of the design standards:
VDOT Design Standards: Curb and Entrance Items
If this is the spot in Belvedere I'm thinking of I went
out with Joel some time ago to look at ramps. Essentially the ramps that had been constructed did not
meet the standards due to various slopes and cross slope deficiencies. I do not think it was the
"shape". Maybe their engineer figured converting them to
another type may facilitate obtaining the requisite slopes and dimensions.
Adam
J. Moore, P.E.
Asst. Res. Engr - Land Use Charlottesville Residency
Virginia
Department of Transportation
434-422-9782
adam.mooreCcDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Greene, Max <max.greene@ydot.yirginia.goy> wrote:
Frank,
The CG-12 detail you circled is the one I've been preferring.
This detail appears to work best with visually impaired individuals.
We don't want pedestrians walking out into the intersection.
Adam,
Do you have any clarification?
Respectfully,
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Max
Max Greene
Land Development Engineer- Land Use
Charlottesville Residency
Virginia Department of Transportation
434-906-6415
max.greene(ccaVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:34 AM Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> wrote:
Adam/Max,
Is it accurate that VDOT is not allowing the type of CG-12 ramps circled below? Please refer to emails below for
reference.
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Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
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434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrickaherrick@albemarle.org>
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Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thank you, Andy. Our engineer will be in touch with Frank Pohl about this.
As a brief explanation for your benefit, the sidewalks were originally built as designed in early 2018 in accordance with
the approved road plan. However, after the sidewalk design was approved by the County, but before their
construction was commenced, VDOT promulgated new requirements for flared ADA ramps. Regrettably, we were not
aware of those changes until the construction was completed. After the sidewalks were fully built and we learned of
the new VDOT requirements, we paid to have our contractor rework the sidewalk termination points to add flare
features in accordance with the new VDOT regulations because we were informed that VDOT would not accept the
streets otherwise.
We're sorry for all of the trouble this has caused. We thought we had dotted all of our is and crossed our is properly.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith CdSori neCreekLivine.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
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Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
1.to build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2.to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
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The ramps should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confi ni the correct HC ramp with VDOT, just in case.
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl
(fpohl@albeniarle.or¢), the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttorney
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
"972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement. The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were
not prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots
identified that had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure
the problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries
or setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will
enable VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements
and a maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith(@SprineCreekLivinz.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested
evidence for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries
are adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat
was deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue
this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
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Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahernck@albeniarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1.Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 11B sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 11B roads, Seth Roderick, will be
reviewing the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to
have your review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots
in Phase 116 where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
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I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you
have a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2.Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
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Cameron Langille
From: Frank Pohl
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 3:02 PM
To: Garrett Smith
Cc: Steve Krohn; Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille; Andy Herrick
Subject: RE: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
I apologize for my lack of clarity. Before moving forward with easements/ROW adjustments, we will need confirmation
that the ramps cannot be installed per design within the right-of-way. Unfortunately, the County was not involved in the
discussions between VDOT and the contractor/owner. I think a discussion with the design engineer and possibly a site
visit is in order at some point.
Staff has been directed to accept maintenance agreements for projects that were approved prior to the policy change
this past year. I realize there may be unforeseen circumstances that may necessitate an agreement but it is intended to
be the exception and only if absolutely necessary. If the ramps cannot be modified to meet VDOT standards within the
existing ROW, the first choice from a County perspective is to negotiate public ROW dedications from the individual land
owners. This should be possible for the lots still owned by the builder where construction hasn't started. If this is not
possible, easements may be the last option, but not until ROW efforts are exhausted. (Maybe there is another reason
ROW dedications will not work, like setbacks?)
If you have a moment, I think a call would help me understand all the issues a little better before scheduling a meeting
with the engineer.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:15 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Cc: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thanks for this thread, Frank. We do appreciate it.
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Am I correct in interpreting that based on the thread you've now verified the existing ramps that we reworked are
satisfactory to Albemarle County since they are satisfactory in the eyes of VDOT? Should I proceed to have the engineer
who's helping us get the roads conveyed contact you to go over any further steps to satisfy your department? Please let
me know.
Once the engineering is satisfied with the structures that are in place, we'll submit a new as -built exhibit to planning and
engage them about the ramp configurations and the challenges we have faced.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith0SoringCreekLivi ng.com
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Please refer below.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl(a)albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: Max Greene <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Hi Frank,
That arrangement is still possible. Here is the link to the appropriate section of the design standards:
VDOT Design Standards: Curb and Entrance Items
If this is the spot in Belvedere I'm thinking of I went
out with Joel some time ago to look at ramps. Essentially the ramps that had been constructed did not
meet the standards due to various slopes and cross slope deficiencies. I do not think it was the
"shape". Maybe their engineer figured converting them to
another type may facilitate obtaining the requisite slopes and dimensions.
Adam
J. Moore, P.E.
Asst. Res. Engr - Land Use Charlottesville Residency
Virginia
Department of Transportation
434-422-9782
adam.moore(rDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.vir¢inia.gov> wrote:
Frank,
The CG-12 detail you circled is the one I've been preferring.
This detail appears to work best with visually impaired individuals.
We don't want pedestrians walking out into the intersection.
Adam,
Do you have any clarification?
Respectfully,
Max
Max Greene
Land Development Engineer- Land Use
Charlottesville Residency
Virginia Department of Transportation
434-906-6415
max.greene(cDVDOT.Virginia.gov
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:34 AM Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> wrote:
Adam/Max,
Is it accurate that VDOT is not allowing the type of CG-12 ramps circled below? Please refer to emails below for
reference.
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Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thank you, Andy. Our engineer will be in touch with Frank Pohl about this.
As a brief explanation for your benefit, the sidewalks were originally built as designed in early 2018 in accordance with
the approved road plan. However, after the sidewalk design was approved by the County, but before their
construction was commenced, VDOT promulgated new requirements for flared ADA ramps. Regrettably, we were not
aware of those changes until the construction was completed. After the sidewalks were fully built and we learned of
the new VDOT requirements, we paid to have our contractor rework the sidewalk termination points to add flare
features in accordance with the new VDOT regulations because we were informed that VDOT would not accept the
streets otherwise.
We're sorry for all of the trouble this has caused. We thought we had dotted all of our is and crossed our is properly.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith CdSori neCreekLivine.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
Lto build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2.to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading below.
39
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Below shows how the sidewalks were constructed, with a radius that encroaches onto private property and a
different ranip.
The ranips should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confirm the correct HC rannp with VDOT, just in case.
0
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl
(fpohl@albemarle.or), the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
Albemarle Coonty
ahemck@albetnarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
To: Garrett Smith «smith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement. The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
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Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were
not prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots
identified that had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure
the problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries
or setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will
enable VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements
and a maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
42
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith PSori neCreekLivine.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 20211:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
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As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested
evidence for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries
are adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat
was deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue
this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would reconmiend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Hetrick
Deputy County Attorney
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1.Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 1113 sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 1113 roads, Seth Roderick, will be
reviewing the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to
have your review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots
in Phase 116 where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you
have a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2.Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:15 PM
To: Frank Pohl
Cc: Steve Krohn; Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille; Andy Herrick
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thanks for this thread, Frank. We do appreciate it.
Am I correct in interpreting that based on the thread you've now verified the existing ramps that we reworked are
satisfactory to Albemarle County since they are satisfactory in the eyes of VDOT? Should I proceed to have the engineer
who's helping us get the roads conveyed contact you to go over any further steps to satisfy your department? Please let
me know.
Once the engineering is satisfied with the structures that are in place, we'll submit a new as -built exhibit to planning and
engage them about the ramp configurations and the challenges we have faced.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:08 AM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille
<blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Please refer below.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
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434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: Max Greene<max.greene(c@ydot.yirginia.goy>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Belvedere Phase 118 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Hi Frank,
That arrangement is still possible. Here is the link to the appropriate section of the design standards:
VDOT Design Standards: Curb and Entrance Items
If this is the spot in Belvedere I'm thinking of I went
out with Joel some time ago to look at ramps. Essentially the ramps that had been constructed did not
meet the standards due to various slopes and cross slope deficiencies. I do not think it was the
'.shape". Maybe their engineer figured converting them to
another type may facilitate obtaining the requisite slopes and dimensions.
Adam
J. Moore, P.E.
Asst. Res. Engr - Land Use Charlottesville Residency
Virginia
Department of Transportation
434-422-9782
adam.mooreCcDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> wrote:
Frank,
The CG-12 detail you circled is the one I've been preferring.
This detail appears to work best with visually impaired individuals.
We don't want pedestrians walking out into the intersection.
Adam,
Do you have any clarification?
Respectfully,
Max
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Max Greene
Land Development Engineer - Land Use
Charlottesville Residency
Virginia Department of Transportation
434-906-6415
max.greeneoV DOT. Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:34 AM Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> wrote:
Adam/Max,
Is it accurate that VDOT is not allowing the type of CG-12 ramps circled below? Please refer to emails below for
reference.
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Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl Opal bemarl e.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thank you, Andy. Our engineer will be in touch with Frank Pohl about this.
As a brief explanation for your benefit, the sidewalks were originally built as designed in early 2018 in accordance with
the approved road plan. However, after the sidewalk design was approved by the County, but before their
construction was commenced, VDOT promulgated new requirements for flared ADA ramps. Regrettably, we were not
aware of those changes until the construction was completed. After the sidewalks were fully built and we learned of
the new VDOT requirements, we paid to have our contractor rework the sidewalk termination points to add flare
features in accordance with the new VDOT regulations because we were informed that VDOT would not accept the
streets otherwise.
We're sorry for all of the trouble this has caused. We thought we had dotted all of our is and crossed our is properly.
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Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
Lto build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2.to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement.
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading below.
51
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PtKLIVSALLEY,.wowr
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Below shows how the sidewalks were constructed, with a radius that encroaches onto private property and a
different ranip.
The ranips should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confirm the correct HC rannp with VDOT, just in case.
52
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl
(fpohl@albemarle.or), the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
Albemarle Coonty
ahemck@albetnarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
To: Garrett Smith «smith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement. The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
53
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were
not prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots
identified that had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure
the problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries
or setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will
enable VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements
and a maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
54
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith PSori neCreekLivine.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 20211:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
55
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested
evidence for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries
are adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat
was deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue
this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would reconmiend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
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To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1.Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be
reviewing the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to
have your review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots
in Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you
have a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2.Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Garrett,
Please refer below.
Sincerely,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
Frank Pohl
Tuesday, February 23, 2021 11:08 AM
Garrett Smith
Andy Herrick; Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille
FW: FW: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
fpohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 10:47 AM
To: Max Greene <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Hi Frank,
That arrangement is still possible. Here is the link to the appropriate section of the design standards:
VDOT Design Standards: Curb and Entrance Items
If this is the spot in Belvedere I'm thinking of I went
out with Joel some time ago to look at ramps. Essentially the ramps that had been constructed did not
meet the standards due to various slopes and cross slope deficiencies. I do not think it was the
'.shape". Maybe their engineer figured converting them to
another type may facilitate obtaining the requisite slopes and dimensions.
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Adam
J. Moore, P.E.
Asst. Res. Engr - Land Use Charlottesville Residency
Virginia
Department of Transportation
434-422-9782
adam.moore(cDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 8:31 AM Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov> wrote:
Frank,
The CG-12 detail you circled is the one I've been preferring.
This detail appears to work best with visually impaired individuals.
We don't want pedestrians walking out into the intersection.
Adam,
Do you have any clarification?
Respectfully,
Max
Max Greene
Land Development Engineer- Land Use
Charlottesville Residency
Virginia Department of Transportation
434-906-6415
max.greene(ccDVDOT.Virginia.gov
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 7:34 AM Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> wrote:
Adam/Max,
Is it accurate that VDOT is not allowing the type of CG-12 ramps circled below? Please refer to emails below for
reference.
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Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
foohl Opal bemarl e.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
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Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Thank you, Andy. Our engineer will be in touch with Frank Pohl about this.
As a brief explanation for your benefit, the sidewalks were originally built as designed in early 2018 in accordance with
the approved road plan. However, after the sidewalk design was approved by the County, but before their
construction was commenced, VDOT promulgated new requirements for flared ADA ramps. Regrettably, we were not
aware of those changes until the construction was completed. After the sidewalks were fully built and we learned of
the new VDOT requirements, we paid to have our contractor rework the sidewalk termination points to add flare
features in accordance with the new VDOT regulations because we were informed that VDOT would not accept the
streets otherwise.
We're sorry for all of the trouble this has caused. We thought we had dotted all of our is and crossed our is properly.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith CdSori neCreekLivine.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
62
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
1.to build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2.to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading
below.
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different ramp.
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The ramps should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confi ni the correct HC ramp with VDOT, just in case.
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl
(fpohl@albeniarle.or¢), the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttorney
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
"972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
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To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement. The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 Mchitire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were
not prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots
identified that had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure
the problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries
or setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will
enable VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements
and a maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0:(434)220-77351F:(434)973-52171 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith Ca)Sori neCreekLivine.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested
evidence for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries
are adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat
was deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue
this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
67
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle County
ahernck@albeniarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1.Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 11B sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 11B roads, Seth Roderick, will be
reviewing the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to
have your review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots
in Phase 110; where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
68
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you
have a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2.Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 2:17 PM
To: Garrett Smith
Cc: Frank Pohl
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
After my prior message last Saturday, the County Engineer alerted me that these sidewalks apparently
were not constructed according to the approved road plan. At this point, the two simplest solutions would be:
1) to build the sidewalks as approved on the plan or
2) to dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement
The road plan below is SUB201200152. The County Engineer didn't look up the other road plan(s), but
assumes they may have the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading below.
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Below shows how the sidewalks were constructed, with a radius that encroaches onto private property and a
different ramp.
71
fr��j Ac
/ ` '
rya .
•
The ramps should be constructed as designed. Before removing, the County Engineer suggests that the
owner(s) confirm the correct HC ramp with VDOT, just in case.
IF your clients have further questions, please have them work directly with Frank Pohl (fpohl@albemarle.org),
the County Engineer. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlovesville, VA 22902
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From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County -wide sidewalk maintenance agreement The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
72
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff continents. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle County
ahernck@albernule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith(a)SoringCreekLivi ng.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
aherri Walbetnarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 1:25 PM
To: Frank Pohl
Cc: Cameron Langille; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Frank,
Thanks for the additional information. As you may have seen, I responded to New Belvedere's attorney
on Saturday.
Is anything in your message below intended for internal consumption only? If not, may I forward it
directly to New Belvedere's attorney as well? I think it would be helpful for him and his client to see the issue(s)
with the sidewalks as installed.
Again, let me know if I may forward your message, or if you'd prefer any re -phrasing. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:29 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron/Andy,
It appears the sidewalks were not constructed according to the approved road plan. I would suggest two options, 1)
build it as approved on the plan or 2) dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement.
The road plan is SUB201200152 for a section they are asking for relief. I didn't look up the other road plan(s) but assume
it is the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading below.
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just in case.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle Countv
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foohl@aIbemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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Cameron Langille
From: Frank Pohl
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2021 12:29 PM
To: Cameron Langille; Andy Herrick
Cc: Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron/Andy,
It appears the sidewalks were not constructed according to the approved road plan. I would suggest two options, 1)
build it as approved on the plan or 2) dedicate the additional public right-of-way, not within a private easement.
The road plan is SUB201200152 for a section they are asking for relief. I didn't look up the other road plan(s) but assume
it is the same issue.
See below that the sidewalks and ramps are parallel with the ROW line at the alleys. Keep reading below.
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The ramps should be constructed as designed. Before removing, I suggest they confirm the correct HC ramp with VDOT
just in case.
I hope this helps.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 20213:23 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Hi Andy,
I personally do not feel like this information 100%verifies that the sidewalks can only be located outside of the right-of-
way. In my opinion, they should prepare an exhibit that is basically an as -built that shows the sidewalk locations and
right-of-way boundaries. That's what I was trying to convey in my comment letter.
And based on the new information below— Garrett says "it is simply too late" to modify the property lines because most
of the 16 lots have been sold to private owners and do not belong to the developer any longer. Well, this may not be
what he wants to hear, but they could modify the lot lines provided that all of the owners sign the plat. So, it's not
impossible from a regulatory standpoint, it's just a hassle on their end. True, some owners may object, but that doesn't
mean they all would.
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These are just my thoughts. Let me know what you think.
-Cameron
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 20219:08 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Here's the response of New Belvedere's attorney on whether the existing rights -of -way there can be
modified to include sidewalks. Do we think that New Belvedere has truly exhausted its alternatives here, and that
the County should accept sidewalks outside the rights -of -way in this case? Please let me know. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albetnule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
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We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CounlyAttorney
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Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith0SoringCreekLivi ng.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:18 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Thanks. I incorporated your thoughts and request into my response to New Belvedere's attorney. We'll
see how he responds. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Cbarloaesvitle, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 20213:23 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Hi Andy,
I personally do not feel like this information 100% verifies that the sidewalks can only be located outside of the right-of-
way. In my opinion, they should prepare an exhibit that is basically an as -built that shows the sidewalk locations and
right-of-way boundaries. That's what I was trying to convey in my comment letter.
And based on the new information below— Garrett says "it is simply too late" to modify the property lines because most
of the 16 lots have been sold to private owners and do not belong to the developer any longer. Well, this may not be
what he wants to hear, but they could modify the lot lines provided that all of the owners sign the plat. So, it's not
impossible from a regulatory standpoint, it's just a hassle on their end. True, some owners may object, but that doesn't
mean they all would.
These are just my thoughts. Let me know what you think.
-Cameron
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 20219:08 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
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Cameron,
Here's the response of New Belvedere's attorney on whether the existing rights -of -way there can be
modified to include sidewalks. Do we think that New Belvedere has truly exhausted its alternatives here, and that
the County should accept sidewalks outside the rights -of -way in this case? Please let me know. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAnorney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith(a)SoringCreekLivi ng.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
aherri Walbetnarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 11:17 AM
To: Garrett Smith
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Attachments: Albemarle sidewalk maintenance agreement 210129.pdf
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. To answer your question, VDOT and the County have now agreed on the
language for the County wide sidewalk maintenance agreement The attached agreement is currently being
circulated for signatures.
At the same time, keep in mind that the County is not required to accept sidewalk maintenance
agreements from individual developers. I think that staff will still need to be convinced that there are no other
alternatives. Perhaps that can be part of the applicant's proposed discussion with staff upon resubmission.
In the meantime, could you or the applicant prepare an exhibit (basically an as -built) that shows the
sidewalk locations and right-of-way boundaries? I think that would help inform the upcoming discussion with
staff. Please also ensure that any resubmission also addresses all prior staff comments. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
89
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
90
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith(a)SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 3:23 PM
To: Andy Herrick
Cc: Kevin McDermott; Frank Pohl
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Hi Andy,
I personally do not feel like this information 100% verifies that the sidewalks can only be located outside of the right-of-
way. In my opinion, they should prepare an exhibit that is basically an as -built that shows the sidewalk locations and
right-of-way boundaries. That's what I was trying to convey in my comment letter.
And based on the new information below — Garrett says "it is simply too late" to modify the property lines because most
of the 16 lots have been sold to private owners and do not belong to the developer any longer. Well, this may not be
what he wants to hear, but they could modify the lot lines provided that all of the owners sign the plat. So, it's not
impossible from a regulatory standpoint, it's just a hassle on their end. True, some owners may object, but that doesn't
mean they all would.
These are just my thoughts. Let me know what you think.
-Cameron
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 20219:08 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Here's the response of New Belvedere's attorney on whether the existing rights -of -way there can be
modified to include sidewalks. Do we think that New Belvedere has truly exhausted its alternatives here, and that
the County should accept sidewalks outside the rights -of -way in this case? Please let me know. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albernule.ore
!tt%�S!YL'.CIIPYI
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
prr
oCLSIEDERE
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
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As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
common (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached comment letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreement(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff comments to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
aherricWalbemarle.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
95
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:08 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Cc: Kevin McDermott; Frank Pohl
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Here's the response of New Belvedere's attorney on whether the existing rights -of -way there can be
modified to include sidewalks. Do we think that New Belvedere has truly exhausted its alternatives here, and that
the County should accept sidewalks outside the rights -of -way in this case? Please let me know. Thanks.
Andy Hetrick
Deputy ComityAnomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:04 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
Following up your questions from January about the Belvedere sidewalks, we are waiting for our engineers' revised
sidewalk easement plat, and will submit that when it is ready. For a number of reasons we and our engineers were not
prepared to push the last plat forward —not the least of those was that there were additional corner lots identified that
had sidewalk ramp flares encroaching into residential lots.
The short answer to the questions raised by staff about whether lot boundary or setback reconfigurations could cure the
problenm is unfortunately "no". Most of the 16 lots involved were sold to builders some time ago, homes were
constructed, and then the improved lots were sold to homeowners. It is simply too late to modify the lot boundaries or
setbacks. We'll go over that with Staff when we resubmit.
Going forward, our process will necessarily now involve approaching the homeowners for an easement that will enable
VDOT will accept the streets. My understanding is that those will entail private pedestrian access easements and a
maintenance easement granted to the owner's association.
97
We don't feel we should approach homeowners with a draft easement until VDOT and the County have reached an
agreement. Only after that can we enter into an acceptable pass -through agreement with the County. The
homeowners' easements will need to conform to the requirements of those documents.
In the meantime, have you had any luck getting clarity from VDOT through it's AG? Can you let me know where that
stands, or if I can be of any help?
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Conmiunity Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff conmients, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
conmion (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Conmient 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For exaniple, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached conmient letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreenient(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff conmients to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would reconmiend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttorney
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Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith0SoringCreekLivi ng.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 1:58 PM
To: Garrett Smith
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Attachments: SUB202000048 First Review Comments.pdf
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. I shared your requests with Community Development staff, who told me that
this plat was actually the subject of a full review last spring. Attached are the formal staff comments, dated
4/6/2020.
As I noted to you around that time, locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a
commion (or preferred) approach. Staff raised that issue in the attached Comment 1(a), which requested evidence
for each parcel that would preclude adjusting the lot boundary lines. For example, if the lot boundaries are
adjusted to put the sidewalks within the right-of-way, will some (or all) lots no longer comply with setbacks or
minimum lot size regulations?
In addition, I'm told that
1. The applicant never responded to the attached conmlent letter. As a result, the earlier plat was
deemed withdrawn. The applicant would have to submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of potential maintenance agreemem(s) with the County, these overlaps in and
of themselves are a problem.
In short, though a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is now an option, at least in theory, it
sounds as though there still are a number of staff conmients to address, especially in showing why the sidewalks
cannot be within the public right-of-way, before staff would recommend entering an agreement here.
Let us know how your clients would like to proceed. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle County
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 116 sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 116 roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase 116 where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith0SorineCreekLivi ne.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:05 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Great. Thanks. See you then.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:59 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albema rle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Thanks Andy, it's been added to today's agenda.
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:48 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.ors>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Please add this item to today's legal agenda. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttomey
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@alberaule.ora
434-972-4067
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From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:44 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <d0ames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Thanks for that information and hyperlink to the 5/6/2020 materials, Andy. That will be very helpful in the future (not
just for this application, but any other proposing similar things).
Should I set up a Teams call for us to discuss this further? Or should I put this on the legal agenda for today (I know it's a
little late but figured we'd all be available then). Please let me know your thoughts and I will arrange a meeting time.
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Thanks for your message. For starters, I agree that all sidewalks that can be in the public right-of-way
should be in the public right-of-way. I fully agree that staff should require the applicant to address your Comment
1 a and show if/why sidewalks cannot be located in the public right -of --way before we agree to enter a separate
maintenance agreement
Having said that, the landscape has changed somewhat since your 4/6/2020 comment letter. Most notably,
on 5/6/2020, the Board authorized sidewalk maintenance agreements with both VDOT and individual
developers/owners. See the Executive Sunim . Therefore, a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is
now an option, at least in theory. However, again, it sounds as though this applicant still has a number of hurdles
to clear, especially in showing why the sidewalks cannot be within the public right-of-way, before we should agree
to enter an agreement here.
I/we owe a response to New Belvedere's attorney. Let's discuss before responding. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle County
aherrick@albernule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; David James <d0ames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
104
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl0albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement.
105
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ithOSoringCreekLivi ng.com
106
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:59 AM
To: Andy Herrick
Cc: Frank Pohl; David lames; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Thanks Andy, it's been added to today's agenda
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:48 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David lames <djames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@ albema rle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Please add this item to today's legal agenda. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAltomey
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemarle.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlovesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:44 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <d0ames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Thanks for that information and hyperlink to the 5/6/2020 materials, Andy. That will be very helpful in the future (not
just for this application, but any other proposing similar things).
Should I set up a Teams call for us to discuss this further? Or should I put this on the legal agenda for today (I know it's a
little late but figured we'd all be available then). Please let me know your thoughts and I will arrange a meeting time.
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
108
Cameron,
Thanks for your message. For starters, I agree that all sidewalks that can be in the public right-of-way
should be in the public right-of-way. I fully agree that staff should require the applicant to address your Comment
1 a and show if/why sidewalks cannot be located in the public right -of --way before we agree to enter a separate
maintenance agreement
Having said that, the landscape has changed somewhat since your 4/6/2020 conmient letter. Most notably,
on 5/6/2020, the Board authorized sidewalk maintenance agreements with both VDOT and individual
developers/owners. See the Executive Sunim . Therefore, a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is
now an option, at least in theory. However, again, it sounds as though this applicant still has a number of hurdles
to clear, especially in showing why the sidewalks cannot be within the public right-of-way, before we should agree
to enter an agreement here.
I/we owe a response to New Belvedere's attorney. Let's discuss before responding. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CounlyAttorney
Albemarle Comity
ahernck@alberuule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
109
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
foohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attomey is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albetnarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Chulouesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 1113 sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase 1113 roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase 116 where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWIM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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111
Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:48 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Cc: Frank Pohl; David lames; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Please add this item to today's legal agenda. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attomey
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:44 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@ a I bema rle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Thanks for that information and hyperlink to the 5/6/2020 materials, Andy. That will be very helpful in the future (not
just for this application, but any other proposing similar things).
Should I set up a Teams call for us to discuss this further? Or should I put this on the legal agenda for today (I know it's a
little late but figured we'd all be available then). Please let me know your thoughts and I will arrange a meeting time.
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <d0ames2@albemarle.ors>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albemarle.org
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Thanks for your message. For starters, I agree that all sidewalks that can be in the public right-of-way
should be in the public right-of-way. I fully agree that staff should require the applicant to address your Comment
1 a and show if/why sidewalks cannot be located in the public right -of --way before we agree to enter a separate
maintenance agreement
112
Having said that, the landscape has changed somewhat since your 4/6/2020 comment letter. Most notably,
on 5/6/2020, the Board authorized sidewalk maintenance agreements with both VDOT and individual
developers/owners. See the Executive Sunmfary. Therefore, a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is
now an option, at least in theory. However, again, it sounds as though this applicant still has a number of hurdles
to clear, especially in showing why the sidewalks cannot be within the public right-of-way, before we should agree
to enter an agreement here.
I/we owe a response to New Belvedere's attorney. Let's discuss before responding. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle County
aherrick@albemarle.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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972.4(167 immediately, report your receipt of this eniA, and promptly delete the email from all sources on your computer. If you are a client, you should maintain this
emairs contents in confidence to preserve its protected status. Thank you.
From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
From: Frank Pohl <fPohl @albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>; David James <diames2@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
113
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl(@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement.
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle County
aherrick@albemarle.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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9724167 inmiediately, report your receipt of this entail, and promptly delete the email from all sources on your computer. If you are a client, you should maintain this
emairs contents in confidence to preserve its protected status. Thank you.
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase 11B Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase 116 sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
114
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase 116 where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended
recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and/or may otherwise be protected by law. Any
unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe you are not the intended recipient,
please notify the sender by reply e-mail and permanently delete and/or destroy all copies of the original message and
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115
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:44 AM
To: Andy Herrick
Cc: Frank Pohl; David lames; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Thanks for that information and hyperlink to the 5/6/2020 materials, Andy. That will be very helpful in the future (not
just for this application, but any other proposing similar things).
Should I set up a Teams call for us to discuss this further? Or should I put this on the legal agenda for today (I know it's a
little late but figured we'd all be available then). Please let me know your thoughts and I will arrange a meeting time.
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott
<kmcdermott@albema rle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Thanks for your message. For starters, I agree that all sidewalks that can be in the public right-of-way
should be in the public right-of-way. I fully agree that staff should require the applicant to address your Comment
1 a and show if/why sidewalks cannot be located in the public right -of --way before we agree to enter a separate
maintenance agreement
Having said that, the landscape has changed somewhat since your 4/6/2020 conmient letter. Most notably,
on 5/6/2020, the Board authorized sidewalk maintenance agreements with both VDOT and individual
developers/owners. See the Executive Sunmfary. Therefore, a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is
now an option, at least in theory. However, again, it sounds as though this applicant still has a number of hurdles
to clear, especially in showing why the sidewalks cannot be within the public right-of-way, before we should agree
to enter an agreement here.
I/we owe a response to New Belvedere's attorney. Let's discuss before responding. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CountyAttoruey
Albemarle Comity
ahem Walbernule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
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Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; David James <diames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
foohl0albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
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3. An emergency access easement
Wbo in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). "Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAnorney
Albemarle County
ahernrWalbernule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSm ith(a)SorineCreekLivi ne.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Cc: Frank Pohl; David lames; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Cameron,
Thanks for your message. For starters, I agree that all sidewalks that can be in the public right-of-way
should be in the public right-of-way. I fully agree that staff should require the applicant to address your Comment
1 a and show if/why sidewalks cannot be located in the public right -of --way before we agree to enter a separate
maintenance agreement
Having said that, the landscape has changed somewhat since your V6/2020 continent letter. Most notably,
on 5/6/2020, the Board authorized sidewalk maintenance agreements with both VDOT and individual
developers/owners. See the Executive Sunmfary. Therefore, a sidewalk agreement for this phase of Belvedere is
now an option, at least in theory. However, again, it sounds as though this applicant still has a number of hurdles
to clear, especially in showing why the sidewalks cannot be within the public right-of-way, before we should agree
to enter an agreement here.
I/we owe a response to New Belvedere's attorney. Let's discuss before responding. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAttomey
Albemarle Comity
ahemck@albemarle.org
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
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A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ors>; David James <diames2@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle Court
fpohl(@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.ore>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy ComityAharney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemule.or¢
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Charlottesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:14 AM
To: Frank Pohl; David James
Cc: Andy Herrick; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Attachments: SUB202000048 First Review Comments.pdf
Good morning everyone,
We reviewed this plat back in April. I actually spoke with the County Attorney's office, Engineering, and VDOT about this
one. We all agreed that as proposed, this plat cannot be approved because instead of putting improvements that are
required to be within public ROW in the actual ROW, it is proposing improvements within public easements on private
lots. Please see the attached comment letter. If our policy has changed on this, please advise further. The guidance I was
given was that we can't accept public ROW improvements within public easements on private lots without BOS
authorization/approval.
This was reviewed by Planning, Transportation (Planning), Engineering, and VDOT.
A few things:
1. The applicant never responded to our comment letter. The plat is now deemed withdrawn. The applicant must
submit a new application and fee to pursue this.
2. As proposed, the public easements overlap in many areas with existing ACSA and drainage
easements. Regardless of County position on the public easement topic, this in and of itself is a problem.
Again, I never received a response from the developer when the comment letter was sent to them. It looks like they're
still pursuing this?
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 20219:36 AM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; David James <djames2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 116 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
David/Cameron,
I forgot to include the attachments, now attached.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
foohl0albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
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To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and SA Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy Comity Attorney
Albemarle Comity
aherricWalbemarle.ore
434-972-4067
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Cbarlouesville, VA 22902
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emairs contents in confidence to preserve its protected status. Tbank you.
From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
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emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From:
Frank Pohl
Sent:
Thursday, January 28, 2021 9:35 AM
To:
Andy Herrick; Kevin McDermott
Cc:
David James; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Andy,
David (engineering) and Cameron are reviewing the sidewalk easement plat. I am not sure what Phase that is in... The 5A
road plans are also David's and Cameron's.
Let me know if I can help.
Frank
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
Albemarle County
fpohl@albemarle.org
434-296-5832 x7914
401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 20214:35 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Phase 1113 Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
Gentlemen,
New Belvedere's attorney is asking for:
1. A sidewalk maintenance agreement similar to the ones proposed (but not yet completed) for Old Trail
and Chesterfield Landing,
2. A public access easement for certain sidewalks outside the Belvedere rights -of -way, and
3. An emergency access easement
Who in CDD is reviewing this development? I'd like to coordinate our response(s). Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy CounlyAhorney
Albemarle Comity
aherrick@albemarle.ora
!SLS!YL'.CIIItYI
401 McIntire Road, Suite 325, Cbarlovesville, VA 22902
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 1:21 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere Phase IIB Sidewalks and 5A Emergency Access Easement
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Andy:
1. Following our discussion, please find attached a proposed agreement for Belvedere's Phase IIB sidewalk
maintenance. Our engineer prosecuting the acceptance of the Phase IIB roads, Seth Roderick, will be reviewing
the sidewalks and roads with County Engineering for acceptance, but I assume it will help matters to have your
review of this proposed agreement.
Attached is a redline showing changes from your template. The only changes are in the preamble and address
the fact that New Belvedere, Inc. is the successor Declarant.
To be clear, this agreement would only affect a small portion of Belvedere, specifically, the corners of 14 lots in
Phase IIB where the sidewalk ramp structures encroach onto the residential lots.
I will also need to prepare and submit for your review a dedication of a public pedestrian easement for these
areas the majority of which are shown on the attached plat which is being amended to add six more. If you have
a template dedication deed, I'd be happy to work from it.
2. Also, I am working on deeds to convey required portions of Belvedere's Phase 5A common areas to public use
such as SWM structures and sight distance easements. Among the easements we must convey is an public
emergency access easement. Are you aware of a County template for public emergency access
easements? And if so, I would appreciate a copy to go by as I prepare this.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
BE L DERE
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Cameron Langille
From: Andrew Slack
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 3:05 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Cc: Cameron Langille; Francis MacCall
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Those updates should show up on Monday to the GISWeb. It would be covered in the weekend updates I believe.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslackkalbemarle.org
www.albemarte.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:25 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks Q.
How long will it take to appear in GIS?
I just opened it up the revisions do not appear to have taken effect yet.
Have a great weekend (as possible, that is).
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
fe
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
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From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 20201:35 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blanaille@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
All,
Francis and I had an opportunity to chat about these changes and I have updated the zoning layer to reflect the updates.
apologize for the delay.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or¢
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Good morning.
Thanks for the quick response �.
You might already have the information you are requesting from Francis.
This is the change that I thought had been done priorto the GIS upgrade (possibly over a year ago) and then appeared
to go back to the older linework possibly with the GIS update (a guess on my part).
So, if that is the case, you likely have documentation from Francis on this from a year or more ago when I thought the
change had been requested and made.
Francis,
Wasn't it your understanding that the changes in the highlighted plat (pages 2 & 3) had already been done on GIS?
My recollection is that over a year ago that we had many discussions on this (including meetings with the owners), that
you had worked with Andy (or another GDS staff member), and that the change had been made to the GIS for that
portion of the Belvedere NMD.
As mentioned to you recently, those changes that I thought I had seen on the GIS (after you having worked on it) are no
longer there.
If you have any information, or old emails, where you worked with Andy (or other GDS staff) on this could you forward
it to Andy now so that he can put the change back in place?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
129
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.or
www.albemarle.ore
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Unfortunately I haven't had a good opportunity to review these changes with Francis yet to update the zoning layer
appropriately. I've cc'ed Francis on here to let him check out the changes since he is a lot more knowledgeable than I am
when it comes to Zoning determinations.
Francis,
When you have a chance could you check out the attached line that Paty has updated on the attached plat and we can
discuss getting this updated. Let me know when you have a chance and we can catch up on this and try to get it updated.
Cameron,
I just didn't want you to feel left out. I hope you are doing well.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslackkalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.om
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
With the exception of TMP61-160116 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
130
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks
First, yes please make the update.
131
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
132
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period for this getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
133
Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 2:25 PM
To: Andrew Slack
Cc: Cameron Langille; Francis MacCall
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks �.
How long will it take to appear in GIS?
I just opened it up the revisions do not appear to have taken effect yet.
Have a great weekend (as possible, that is).
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 10, 20201:35 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
All,
Francis and I had an opportunity to chat about these changes and I have updated the zoning layer to reflect the updates. I
apologize for the delay.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
134
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALLCa@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Good morning.
Thanks for the quick response Q.
You might already have the information you are requesting from Francis.
This is the change that I thought had been done prior to the GIS upgrade (possibly over a year ago) and then appeared
to go back to the older linework possibly with the GIS update (a guess on my part).
So, if that is the case, you likely have documentation from Francis on this from a year or more ago when I thought the
change had been requested and made.
Francis,
Wasn't it your understanding that the changes in the highlighted plat (pages 2 & 3) had already been done on GIS?
My recollection is that over a year ago that we had many discussions on this (including meetings with the owners), that
you had worked with Andy (or another GDS staff member), and that the change had been made to the GIS for that
portion of the Belvedere NMD.
As mentioned to you recently, those changes that I thought I had seen on the GIS (after you having worked on it) are no
longer there.
If you have any information, or old emails, where you worked with Andy (or other GDS staff) on this could you forward
it to Andy now so that he can put the change back in place?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ora>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.ore>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Patty
135
Unfortunately I haven't had a good opportunity to review these changes with Francis yet to update the zoning layer
appropriately. I've cc'ed Francis on here to let him check out the changes since he is a lot more knowledgeable than I am
when it comes to Zoning determinations.
Francis,
When you have a chance could you check out the attached line that Paty has updated on the attached plat and we can
discuss getting this updated. Let me know when you have a chance and we can catch up on this and try to get it updated.
Cameron,
I just didn't want you to feel left out. I hope you are doing well.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or¢
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
With the exception ofTMP61-160R6 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Ot
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
136
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks
First, yes please make the update.
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
137
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALLCa@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period for this getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
138
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
139
Cameron Langille
From: Andrew Slack
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 1:35 PM
To: Patricia Saternye; Francis MacCall
Cc: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
All,
Francis and I had an opportunity to chat about these changes and I have updated the zoning layer to reflect the updates. I
apologize for the delay.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or¢
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Good morning.
Thanks for the quick response Q.
You might already have the information you are requesting from Francis.
This is the change that I thought had been done prior to the GIS upgrade (possibly over a year ago) and then appeared
to go back to the older linework possibly with the GIS update (a guess on my part).
So, if that is the case, you likely have documentation from Francis on this from a year or more ago when I thought the
change had been requested and made.
Francis,
Wasn't it your understanding that the changes in the highlighted plat (pages 2 & 3) had already been done on GIS?
My recollection is that over a year ago that we had many discussions on this (including meetings with the owners), that
you had worked with Andy (or another GDS staff member), and that the change had been made to the GIS for that
portion of the Belvedere NMD.
As mentioned to you recently, those changes that I thought I had seen on the GIS (after you having worked on it) are no
longer there.
If you have any information, or old emails, where you worked with Andy (or other GDS staff) on this could you forward
it to Andy now so that he can put the change back in place?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
140
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Unfortunately I haven't had a good opportunity to review these changes with Francis yet to update the zoning layer
appropriately. I've cc'ed Francis on here to let him check out the changes since he is a lot more knowledgeable than I am
when it comes to Zoning determinations.
Francis,
When you have a chance could you check out the attached line that Paty has updated on the attached plat and we can
discuss getting this updated. Let me know when you have a chance and we can catch up on this and try to get it updated
Cameron,
I just didn't want you to feel left out. I hope you are doing well.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
141
With the exception ofTMP61-160R6 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks
142
First, yes please make the update.
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
ri
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
143
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period for this getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
4, mill A!y
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
144
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 2:52 PM
To: Don Franco
Subject: RE: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
Attachments: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Hi Don,
I sent the comments to you & Bethany yesterday afternoon. I have attached the email for your reference, which you can
open and then see the attached comment letter PDF. Let me know if you have trouble accessing it.
-Cameron
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:11 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open
attachments unless you are sure the content is safe.
Any update?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 20201:08 PM
To: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Cc: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Garrett Smith «smith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
Just feel, Sam Craig closed on the sale of lot 236 last week. I'm still waiting to hear back from him what the agreement is
relative to the new homeowner signing the easement.
At a minimum, we'd need to add them as a signor on the plat. All the other signors need to remain. Hopefully, we can
get this done before Frank needs to close on lot 235, which is imminent.
Steve Krohn
(434)220-7701
145
From: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 202012:51 PM
To: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Brian Jamison <BJamison@roudabush.com>
Subject: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
Good afternoon all,
I forgot to forward you a PDF of the plat we submitted on Monday. I've attached it here for your reference. Of course,
we will need to update the owner info if any of these lots close before the plat is approved/recorded. The application
number is SUB202000048 for your reference. Also, I noticed on the exhibit that Scott sent over, that it actually looks like
the sidewalk also encroaches on lot 230, 226, 22S, 222, and 221, though there was no new easement sketched on those
lots so not sure if that's something that needs to be addressed, either on this plat, or a subsequent one.
ROUDABU,SK CAM Bethany Velasquez
& ASSpQA'1TFSJW, Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc. I Survey
LAND euRVEY1NG 434.977.0205
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From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:11 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: FW: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
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Thanks,
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From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 1:08 PM
To: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Cc: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: FW: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
Just feel, Sam Craig closed on the sale of lot 236 last week. I'm still waiting to hear back from him what the agreement is
relative to the new homeowner signing the easement.
At a minimum, we'd need to add them as a signor on the plat. All the other signors need to remain. Hopefully, we can
get this done before Frank needs to close on lot 235, which is imminent.
Steve Krohn
(434)220-7701
From: Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 202012:51 PM
To: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>; Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Cc: Brian Jamison <BJamison@roudabush.com>
Subject: Belvedere Sidewalk Easements
Good afternoon all,
I forgot to forward you a PDF of the plat we submitted on Monday. I've attached it here for your reference. Of course,
we will need to update the owner info if any of these lots close before the plat is approved/recorded. The application
number is SUB202000048 for your reference. Also, I noticed on the exhibit that Scott sent over, that it actually looks like
the sidewalk also encroaches on lot 230, 226, 225, 222, and 221, though there was no new easement sketched on those
lots so not sure if that's something that needs to be addressed, either on this plat, or a subsequent one.
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Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Andrew Slack; Francis MacCall
Cc: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Attachments: SUB201800117 approved Plat Final Plat 2019-07-17 NMD line highlighted on Pages
2and3.pdf
Andy,
Good morning.
Thanks for the quick response �.
You might already have the information you are requesting from Francis.
This is the change that I thought had been done prior to the GIS upgrade (possibly over a year ago) and then appeared
to go back to the older linework possibly with the GIS update (a guess on my part).
So, if that is the case, you likely have documentation from Francis on this from a year or more ago when I thought the
change had been requested and made.
Francis,
Wasn't it your understanding that the changes in the highlighted plat (pages 2 & 3) had already been done on GIS?
My recollection is that over a year ago that we had many discussions on this (including meetings with the owners), that
you had worked with Andy (or another GDS staff member), and that the change had been made to the GIS for that
portion of the Belvedere NMD.
As mentioned to you recently, those changes that I thought I had seen on the GIS (after you having worked on it) are no
longer there.
If you have any information, or old emails, where you worked with Andy (or other GDS staff) on this could you forward
it to Andy now so that he can put the change back in place?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
fe
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
149
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Unfortunately I haven't had a good opportunity to review these changes with Francis yet to update the zoning layer
appropriately. I've cc'ed Francis on here to let him check out the changes since he is a lot more knowledgeable than I am
when it comes to Zoning determinations.
Francis,
When you have a chance could you check out the attached line that Paty has updated on the attached plat and we can
discuss getting this updated. Let me know when you have a chance and we can catch up on this and try to get it updated.
Cameron,
I just didn't want you to feel left out. I hope you are doing well.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ore
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
With the exception of TMP61-160R6 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.orR
www.albemarle.ors
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ore>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ora
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks
First, yes please make the update.
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
151
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ora
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ora
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ora>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ora>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period forthis getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
152
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
153
Cameron Langille
From: Andrew Slack
Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Patricia Saternye; Francis MacCall
Cc: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Attachments: SUB201800117 approved Plat Final Plat 2019-07-17 NMD line highlighted on Pages
2and3.pdf
Hi Paty,
Unfortunately I haven't had a good opportunity to review these changes with Francis yet to update the zoning layer
appropriately. I've cc'ed Francis on here to let him check out the changes since he is a lot more knowledgeable than I am
when it comes to Zoning determinations.
Francis,
When you have a chance could you check out the attached line that Paty has updated on the attached plat and we can
discuss getting this updated. Let me know when you have a chance and we can catch up on this and try to get it updated.
Cameron,
I just didn't want you to feel left out. I hope you are doing well.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or¢
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
With the exception ofTMP61-160R6 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
154
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks Q
First, yes please make the update.
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
155
Senior Planner
Community Development
7p
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslackkalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
156
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period for this getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
ri
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
157
Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Andrew Slack
Cc: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Attachments: SUB201800117 approved Plat Final Plat 2019-07-17 NMD line highlighted on Pages
2and3.pdf
Andy,
I was looking back on your last email in reference to the Belvedere NMD line issues.
I had forgotten that you had suggested we wait until the lots are officially subdivided in order to be more accurate.
With the exception of TMP61-160R6 being subdivide (and "creating" one of the lines where the NMD boundary will be)
the subdivisions have already taken place.
Is it possible to update at least the other portions of the NMD line in GIS.
Cameron is reviewing a Belvedere project and was confused with the NMD line as it is currently shown on the GIS.
I made the attached markup for him (see attached on pages 2 & 3), to try to clarify, but he was asking when the fix for
the GIS layer was going to happen.
So I wanted to reach out to you to broach the subject again.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
It's possible. When Francis and I worked on this though the section of Belvedere that you're looking at hadn't been
updated yet so this seems like something that we need to adjust with the newer parcel boundaries and make it more
accurate.
Andy Slack
GIS Analyst
158
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslackkalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.orx>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:12 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ore>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
Thanks
First, yes please make the update.
Second, I had thought that the line been updated and corrected before
But when I looked at it in the last two days it seems like the changes that were made had been wiped out again.
Is there any chance that an older NMD line replaced the one you work with Francis on since you did so?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ore>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 2:07 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ora>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Hi Paty,
Francis and I did work on this area a while ago and updated the NMD with the maps we had at the time. Thanks for
sending along this newer plat.
Francis,
Would you like me to go ahead and make these changes to get this updated? Do we need to chat about it at all?
Andy Slack
159
GIS Analyst
Albemarle County
Community Development Department
Geographic Data Services
434-296-5832 ext. 3384
aslack@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or¢
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:42 PM
To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Francis MacCall <FMACCALL@albemarle.ora>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line appears to not be up to date.
Andy,
I was hoping you could help with something in reference to the zoning lines on the County's GIS.
In doing a review for Belvedere this week I notice something that appears to not yet be updated on GIS.
A portion of the Belvedere NMD line in the GIS system appears to have never been correct.
Attached is a page from a recorded plat (DB5193 PG 462).
I've highlighted the portion of the Belvedere NMD zoning line in question.
This is the NMD line for Belvedere that the applicant used on the site plan and subdivision plan based upon information
from and meetings with Francis M.
It is my understanding that Francis and you were working on this previously and that Francis thought it was going to be
updated in the GIS.
Do you know the time period for this getting updated in GIS?
Or was there some reason why it wasn't added to the GIS?
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
160
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:15 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Yeah, someone should reach out to GIS about it. Let me know if you want me to do it. I think you could just forward him
our email and a copy of the plat you highlighted and let him know that it appears the Zoning Classifications layer has
been messed up somehow and that the boundaries between R$ and NMD should be revised per the highlighted plat.
-Cameron
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:36 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Cameron,
You are welcome �.
Belvedere can be tricky.
Do you want to reach out to Andy S. to ensure that fixing the NMD line again is in his queue? Or should I?
Also, please note, that more work in addition to that needs to be done on the NMD line.
Francis and I have chatted about that in the past, but I don't know if it is still on his radar.
What Andy and Francis were working on (and had fixed on GIS) was just for the portions edging Blocks 4, 7, 9 & 10.
There is likely additional edits needed along Block 8 and in the river bottom.
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ora
From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ora>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.orR>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Thank you so much again Paty!
161
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line
Cameron,
Attached please see a hightlighted (on pages 2 & 3) version of the approved Phase IVA-1 Plat.
Phase IVA-1 is R4, but it is right on the edge of the NM adjacent to Blocks 2, 7 & 9.
1 hope this helps Please let me know if this doesn't clear up your questions.
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
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www.albemarle.org
162
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 4:05 PM
To: Bethany@roudabush.com; Don Franco
Subject: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easements - First Review Comments
Attachments: SUB202000048 First Review Comments.pdf;
Bou n da ry_Li n e_Adj ustm ent_PI at_&_Check) ist. pdf
Hi Bethany & Don,
Attached you will find the first review comments for this plat. Please note comment #1 from the Planning Division, and
subsequent comments from Engineering, transportation planning, and VDOT staff regarding locating new public
easements on private lots.
When new public easements containing road improvements (such as sidewalks) are proposed on private lots, the
developer must enter into a three-way maintenance agreement with the County and VDOT. This requires a vote by the
Board of Supervisors. This is not unique just to Belvedere, but all properties in the County with this type of easement
proposed. Upon consultation with the Planning Director, County Engineer and County Attorney's office, a better
solution would be to revise the parcel boundaries of each lot through a boundary line adjustment unless this would
conflict with the Zoning Ordinance, Subdivision Ordinance, or Code of Development regulation. It does not appear that
there would be any issues with doing the BLA instead. However, I need you to verify whether you have already looked
into this option and identified an issue.
If you can go the BLA route, you do not need to submit a new application and fee to me. You'd simply need to revise the
plat so that it complies with all applicable Code requirements under Section 14-208.1 and the Belvedere Code of
Development. I have attached a copy of a BLA application that includes a checklist of the applicable code sections for
your reference. Additionally, the County would be able to refund you the fee difference. Easement plats are $581.00,
but BLAB are only $215.00, so you'd be eligible for a $366.00 refund. If you go this route, contact Jennifer Pritchett at
0pritchett@albemarle.org and she can initiate the refund process.
Please do not hesitate to ask me any follow-up questions if you have concerns with any of this. If you revise the plat and
want to go the BLA route, just reply to this email confirming that's what you intend to do. You can then re -submit the
revised plat to me electronically via email whenever you're ready.
Talk to you soon,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blaneille@albemarle.ore
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
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Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:36 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Cameron,
You are welcome ®.
Belvedere can be tricky.
Do you want to reach out to Andy S. to ensure that fixing the NMD line again is in his queue? Or should I?
Also, please note, that more work in addition to that needs to be done on the NMD line.
Francis and I have chatted about that in the past, but I don't know if it is still on his radar.
What Andy and Francis were working on (and had fixed on GIS) was just for the portions edging Blocks 4, 7, 9 & 10.
There is likely additional edits needed along Block 8 and in the river bottom.
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Thank you so much again Paty!
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line
Cameron,
Attached please see a hightlighted (on pages 2 & 3) version of the approved Phase IVA-1 Plat.
Phase IVA-1 is R4, but it is right on the edge of the NMD adjacent to Blocks 2, 7 & 9.
1 hope this helps Please let me know if this doesn't clear up your questions.
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Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.or¢
www.albemarle.org
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: RE: Belvedere NMD line
Thank you so much again Paty!
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Belvedere NMD line
Cameron,
Attached please see a hightlighted (on pages 2 & 3) version of the approved Phase IVA-1 Plat.
Phase IVA-1 is R4, but it is right on the edge of the NMD adjacent to Blocks 2, 7 & 9.
1 hope this helps Please let me know if this doesn't clear up your questions.
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
166
Cameron Langille
From: David Benish
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 10:15 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easement Plat
I am OK with these comments, including not supporting the public easements on private properties and recommending
the BLA approach where feasible.
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:02 PM
To: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easement Plat
David,
I've finished my review and I'm sending it over to you to review before I send to Don Franco. Let me know if you think I
should make any revisions. I have asked VDOT to update their comment letter, because they didn't make any comments
that an agreement is needed. Through email I verified with Max Greene that VDOT does want a maintenance
agreement for any sidewalks located outside of the ROW. That was on Wednesday and they haven't sent me a new
letter yet.
P.S. the red text on page 2 of the plat was written by me so I can figure out where setbacks or other development regs.
may be an issue if they agree to doing a BLA instead of easements.
Have a great weekend.
-Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blangille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
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Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:30 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Belvedere NMD line
Attachments: SUB201800117 approved Plat Final Plat 2019-07-17 NMD line highlighted on Pages
2and3.pdf
Cameron,
Attached please see a hightlighted (on pages 2 & 3) version of the approved Phase IVA-1 Plat.
Phase IVA-1 is R4, but it is right on the edge of the NMD adjacent to Blocks 2, 7 & 9.
I hope this helps Please let me know if this doesn't clear up your questions.
Be well,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.or6
www.albemarle.org
168
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 4:02 PM
To: David Benish
Subject: SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easement Plat
Attachments: SUB202000048 Engineering First Review Comments.pdf, SUB202000048 Plat
03-09-2020.pdf, SUB202000048 VDOT First Review Comments.pdf, SUB202000048 First
Review Comments.docx
David,
I've finished my review and I'm sending it over to you to review before I send to Don Franco. Let me know if you think I
should make any revisions. I have asked VDOT to update their comment letter, because they didn't make any comments
that an agreement is needed. Through email I verified with Max Greene that VDOT does want a maintenance
agreement for any sidewalks located outside of the ROW. That was on Wednesday and they haven't sent me a new
letter yet.
P.S. the red text on page 2 of the plat was written by me so I can figure out where setbacks or other development regs.
may be an issue if they agree to doing a BLA instead of easements.
Have a great weekend.
-Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blaneille@albemarle.ore
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
169
Cameron Langille
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:57 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Re: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Thanks
Sent from my Wad
On Apr 3, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote:
Don,
I expect to have my comment letter out to you on Monday.
-Cameron
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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thanks
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup @albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Don Franco <DFranco(c@roudabush.com>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda@albema rle.ore>
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Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangilleCa@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Good Morning Don,
Cameron is reviewing this plat and I have asked him to send you an update.
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
she/her/hers (What is this?)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda@albema rle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Hey all,
Not sure how the virtual world is working out. On our end, it seems like the builder's purchasers are at
home and anxious to hear something. Any update on the easement plat?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Don Franco
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To: 'Megan Nedostup' <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Cc: 'Bill Fritz' <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than
normal (i.e., consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was
approved on the approved road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan
revision and carried through to the approved plat with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
171
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in
several locations and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the
sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement
to protect the sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts
we provided the designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance
process. If some one determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the
ROW as well. Otherwise we have a pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot
of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next
week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk
easements and plat by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the
other minor corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
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Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
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From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 3:34 PM
To: Don Franco
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Don,
I expect to have my comment letter out to you on Monday.
-Cameron
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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thanks
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostuo@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Good Morning Don,
Cameron is reviewing this plat and I have asked him to send you an update.
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
sheihedhers (what is this?)
Principal Planner
174
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Hey all,
Not sure how the virtual world is working out. On our end, it seems like the builder's purchasers are at home and
anxious to hear something. Any update on the easement plat?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Don Franco
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To:'Megan Nedostup' <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Cc:'Bill Fritz' <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
175
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
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From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup; Bill Fritz; Bart Svoboda
Cc: Amelia McCulley, Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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thanks
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Good Morning Don,
Cameron is reviewing this plat and I have asked him to send you an update.
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
she/her/hers (What is this?)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bem a rle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Hey all,
Not sure how the virtual world is working out. On our end, it seems like the builder's purchasers are at home and
anxious to hear something. Any update on the easement plat?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Don Franco
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To:'Megan Nedostup' <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Cc:'Bill Fritz' <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
179
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
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From: Megan Nedostup
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:20 AM
To: Don Franco; Bill Fritz; Bart Svoboda
Cc: Amelia McCulley; Cameron Langille
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Good Morning Don,
Cameron is reviewing this plat and I have asked him to send you an update.
Thank you,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
she/her/hers (Mat is this?)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Hey all,
Not sure how the virtual world is working out. On our end, it seems like the builder's purchasers are at home and
anxious to hear something. Any update on the easement plat?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Don Franco
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To: 'Megan Nedostup' <mnedostup(c@albemarle.org>
Cc: 'Bill Fritz' <BFRITZ(@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvobodaC@albemarle.ore>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
182
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Megan Nedostup
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 8:07 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Hey Cameron,
Can you give them an update?
Thanks,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
she/her/hers (Mat is this?)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Friday, April 3, 2020 6:53 AM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda
<bsvoboda @a I bemarle.org>
Cc: Amelia McCulley <AMCCULLE@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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Hey all,
Not sure how the virtual world is working out. On our end, it seems like the builder's purchasers are at home and
anxious to hear something. Any update on the easement plat?
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Don Franco
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To:'Megan Nedostup' <mnedostup(@albemarle.org>
Cc:'Bill Fritz' <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethany@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
185
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:40 PM
To: Greene, Max
Subject: RE: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
Yes, that is the case here. They are proposing public easements on private lots that will contain sidewalks which are
normally supposed to be in the public ROW. Would you mind revising the VDOT comment letter so that it states that a
maintenance agreement will be required?
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 20204:22 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
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If sidewalks are not inside the right of way then a maintenance agreement is required. VDOT must have
assurances from the county that the sidewalk will be maintained.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:43 PM Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org> wrote:
Thanks Max. Can you verify that these sidewalks will need a maintenance agreement with VDOT since they're outside
of the public right-of-way?
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
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Please find the attached review comment letter.
Max Greene
Architect/Engineer I
Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesville Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max.areene@vdot.vireinia.eov
Max Greene
Architect/Engineer I
Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesvilte Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max.ereeneCwdot.vireinia.eoy
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Cameron Langille
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 20204:22 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Re: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
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If sidewalks are not inside the right of way then a maintenance agreement is required. VDOT must have
assurances from the county that the sidewalk will be maintained.
On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 3:43 PM Cameron Langille <blangilleCa@albemarle.org> wrote:
Thanks Max. Can you verify that these sidewalks will need a maintenance agreement with VDOT since they're outside
of the public right-of-way?
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
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Please find the attached review comment letter.
Max Greene
Architect/Engineer I
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Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesville Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max.ereene@vdot.vireinia.eov
Max Greene
Architect/Engineer)
Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesvile Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max, ereene@vdot.vi reinia.eov
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Cameron Langille
From:
Cameron Langille
Sent:
Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:43 PM
To:
Greene, Max
Subject:
RE: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
Thanks Max. Can you verify that these sidewalks will need a maintenance agreement with VDOT since they're outside of
the public right-of-way?
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Fwd: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
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Please find the attached review comment letter.
Max Greene
Architect/ Engineer I
Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesville Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max.greene@ydot.yirginia.goy
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Cameron Langille
From: David lames
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:19 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB202000048 Belvedere Sidewalk Easement.
The Review for the following application has been completed:
Application Number = SUB202000048
Reviewer = David James
Review Status = Requested Changes
Completed Date = 04/01/2020
Hi Cameron,
Here are my comments:
1. Developer may need a sidewalk agreement with the County prior to SUB202000048 approval.
2. County needs agreement with VDOT to maintain sidewalks prior to approval.
3. Show North arrow for each view. {14-301 D}
4. Show the location of existing buildings. {14-312)
Thanks,
David James
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Cameron Langille
From: Greene, Max <max.greene@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Fwd: SUB-2020-00048- Belvedere Easement Plat
Attachments: SUB-2020-00048 - Belvedere Easement Plat - Dated 03-09-2020.pdf
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Please find the attached review comment letter.
Max Greene
Architect/ Engineer I
Land Use
Southern Culpeper District
Charlottesville Res. Admin.
Office: 434-422-9894
Cell: 434-906-6415
max.ereene@vdot.vireinia.eov
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 3A7 PM
To: Megan Nedostup
Cc: Bart Svoboda; David Benish
Subject: RE: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Hi Megan,
Yes, this application has been submitted and it is SUB202000048. It has been transmitted to Frank, Kevin McDermott,
and Adam from VDOT for review. I am aware of the issues with putting the sidewalks in public easements on private lots
and the maintenance agreement Board approval required to do so. Frank has already spoke with Andy Herrick and we
have agreed that we are going to comment to the applicant asking them why they are proposing this. If they can do
BLA's to adjust the lot lines so that the sidewalks will remain in the public ROW, then we advise them to do that. I think
they will be able to do that and still meet all the lot regulations from the COD. I've done like 30% of my review so far but
I haven't verified whether the BLA options is totally feasible.
The way we planned to frame the comment was: if you can't do the BLA option, provide documentation to us that you
won't be able to meet setback requirements, lot size regs, or lot length regs. If they can meet all of those, then staff
isn't going to support the easement option they're currently proposing.
Let me know your thoughts or if you have any concerns. Thanks,
Cameron
From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:56 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Hey Cameron,
Do you know if we have this plat in/under review? Sorry, I don't have a number, just this long email Q
Thanks,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup(a@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org ; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
195
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
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Cameron Langille
From:
Megan Nedostup
Sent:
Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:56 PM
To:
Cameron Langille
Cc:
Bart Svoboda; David Benish
Subject:
FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Hey Cameron,
Do you know if we have this plat in/under review? Sorry, I don't have a number, just this long email Q
Thanks,
Megan Nedostup, AICP
(pronounced nuh-DAHST-up)
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:51 PM
To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Bart Svoboda <bsvoboda@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Belvedere sidewalk plats
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This plat was submitted at the start of this chaos. Not sure of its status.
The BLA was submitted because the alley entrance fillets with the public road were designed wider than normal (i.e.,
consistent with intersection design versus commercial entrance design). This is how it was approved on the approved
road and site plan????, but the intersection was later shown on a plan revision and carried through to the approved plat
with the tighter commercial entrance type radii.
The end result is a portion of the road intersection was built on the platted lots. This issue occurs in several locations
and it turns out the wider arc is needed for the spur connecting the CG-12 to the sidewalk to meet ADA.
Our final solution was to relocate the curb and asphalt into the ROW and to provide an access easement to protect the
sidewalk in its existing location.
On our end, we've tracked any systemic issue to the coordination between our surveyors and the design
professional. RGA staked out and the contractor built what was on the approved plans. The as-builts we provided the
designer do show the issue. Not sure why it came up so last minute, but here we are.
In my opinion, the public access is protected. The roads still need to go through the acceptance process. If some one
determines that ADA is not applicable, we can always move the sidewalk into the ROW as well. Otherwise we have a
pedestrian sidewalk easement along the frontage, like we do in a lot of other places in the County.
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Please call if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Don Franco, PE
Roudabush, Gale & Assoc., Inc.
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-977-0205(w)
434-249-9641 (m)
From: Steve Krohn <skrohn@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
To: Don Franco <DFranco@roudabush.com>; Bethany Velasquez <Bethanv@roudabush.com>
Cc: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: Belvedere sidewalk plats
Nagging on behalf of Sam Craig, who emailed me again.... Sam is scheduled to close lot 236 early next week.
Do we have any prayer of having the County/VDOT's ok to be able to record the necessary sidewalk easements and plat
by then?
Have we provided the staff the updated document to adjust the necessary easement on lot 236 and the other minor
corrections (add SDH as a signor, add lot 244 to the title, etc.).
Steven C. Krohn
Chief Operating Officer and
Executive Vice President
The Resorts Companies, Inc.
610 W. Rio Road
Charlottesville, VA 22901
Office: (434) 220 - 7701
Mobile: (434) 242 - 6122
SKrohn@ResortsCompanies.com
4W
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Cameron Langille
From:
Andy Herrick
Sent:
Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:38 PM
To:
Garrett Smith
Subject:
RE: Sidewalk Easement
GalTett,
Great. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
Cotulty of Albemarle
(434) 972-4067
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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 2:30 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Sidewalk Easement
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Thanks. I understand our engineers are in contact with planning.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:13 PM
To: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Subject: RE: Sidewalk Easement
GafTett,
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Thanks for your message. Locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a common
(or preferred) approach.
In any event, I forwarded your message to Cameron Langille, who's the lead planner on this. I'd suggest
that your clients contact Cameron directly (if they haven't already) to discuss the proposed sidewalks and possible
alternatives. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
County of Albemarle
(434) 972-4067
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:14 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Sidewalk Easement
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Andy:
New Belvedere, Inc. has been required to reconfigure some sidewalks to conform them to VDOT maximum approach
angle standards for sidewalk ramps that came into effect after VDOT approved and before we built the sidewalks. This
lead the sidewalk improvements encroaching slightly into the 8 of our corner lots. We are required to dedicate small
variable width public access easements to the County where these sidewalk encroachments exist. Does your office have
language you require for the deeds to such easements? The easement plat is attached. Thank you for any guidance you
can provide.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith(@SPringCreekLivinR.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:46 PM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: Belvedere
Must meet SSAR of VDOT.
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blaneille@albemarle.ore
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
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Cameron Langille
From: Andy Herrick
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 1:13 PM
To: Garrett Smith
Subject: RE: Sidewalk Easement
Garrett,
Thanks for your message. Locating required sidewalks outside the public right-of-way is not a common
(or preferred) approach.
In any event, I forwarded your message to Cameron Langille, who's the lead planner on this. I'd suggest
that your clients contact Cameron directly (if they haven't already) to discuss the proposed sidewalks and possible
alternatives. Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
County of Albemarle
(434) 972-4067
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:14 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Sidewalk Easement
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Andy:
New Belvedere, Inc. has been required to reconfigure some sidewalks to conform them to VDOT maximum approach
angle standards for sidewalk ramps that came into effect after VDOT approved and before we built the sidewalks. This
lead the sidewalk improvements encroaching slightly into the 8 of our corner lots. We are required to dedicate small
variable width public access easements to the County where these sidewalk encroachments exist. Does your office have
language you require for the deeds to such easements? The easement plat is attached. Thank you for any guidance you
can provide.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SpringCreekLiving.com
71J
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Cameron Langille
From:
Patricia Saternye
Sent:
Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9.44 AM
To:
Cameron Langille
Cc:
Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject:
Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
Just to follow up on the email below.
Although we still need to get you signed versions of variations #58, 59 & 601 do not think they will impact
your review of the sidewalk easement since to my knowledge they did not impact the setbacks chart (your
original question).
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:28 AM
To: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
#56 & 57 were withdrawn.
Rebecca
Do you have quick and easy access to the signed versions, with action letters, of any approved variations 58-
60?
If not let me if I should spend some time digging in Granicus etc.
I think I have most of #59 (unit changes in Block 10), including the signed resolution, but I don't have the
action letter cover sheet for it.
I'm not sure if I ever received the signed or action letter versions of #58 and #60.
#58 is the Carriage House changes, and I think #60 are the Block 4 recreational amenities changes.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
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From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:43 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
Thanks for clearing that up with the setback/frontage question.
This isn't for Block 10, this is Block 7 where they're just trying to do some easements on a few lots.
Attached are the approved special exceptions I have. Looks like I need variations 56-60.
-Cameron
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:37 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
First, for Single Family Detached homes the setbacks are categorized by the width of the lots. So "SF 30'-40"'
is the range of single family lot width that the setbacks below that apply to.
If this is for the Belvedere Block 10, that we previously had the meetings about, so far they are only showning
townhouses, but it was my understanding they will have single family detached shown in the second portion
of Block 10.
For townhomes it the setbacks are specified under the "Townhouse" column.
Please not that the front are not "setback" in the traditional sense, they are "Build -to" lines. The buildings
have to fall into that range (8'-16').
The very tricky thing here, if the submission you are reviewing is Block 10, is that what they have proposed is
not yet allowed in the C.O.D. Therefore, when they submit the special exception to allow the townhome lots
in Block 10 need to look at what they have submitted and make sure changes to Table 9 would be required to
do what they are proposing.
Second, we need to make sure that you have the most current information on setbacks.
Do you already have copies of all the approved special exception since the C.O.D. was last updated so that
you could make sure the setbacks/build-to lines were not impacted.
Things have been so crazy that I do not remember if we have ensured you have a copy of all of the approved
ones.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:12 PM
206
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
I got my first Belvedere application a couple weeks ago. I'm going through the COD and looking at lot regulation
sections for setbacks. I noticed in the table on page 37 that there are different classes of single family
structures. Specifically, they are broken into groups like SF30'40' and others. Can you explain to me what the numbers
mean in those groups, and how have we typically tracked what version gets built on lots?
Thanks for your help,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blangille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:32 AM
To: Patricia Saternye; Andy Herrick
Subject: RE: Sidewalk Easement
Andy,
As Paty said, I am the one reviewing that application. Let me know if you need to discuss it further.
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:31 AM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Cc: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Sidewalk Easement
Andy,
I'm not the reviewer on that one, Cameron is so I have copied him on this email.
That is SUB2020-48.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: FW: Sidewalk Easement
Paty,
Are you the reviewer for this phase of Belvedere? Have you been asked to approve sidewalks on private
lots? Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:14 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Sidewalk Easement
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Andy:
New Belvedere, Inc. has been required to reconfigure some sidewalks to conform them to VDOT maximum approach
angle standards for sidewalk ramps that came into effect after VDOT approved and before we built the sidewalks. This
lead the sidewalk improvements encroaching slightly into the 8 of our corner lots. We are required to dedicate small
variable width public access easements to the County where these sidewalk encroachments exist. Does your office have
language you require for the deeds to such easements? The easement plat is attached. Thank you for any guidance you
can provide.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:31 AM
To: Andy Herrick
Cc: Cameron Langille
Subject: Re: Sidewalk Easement
Andy,
I'm not the reviewer on that one, Cameron is so I have copied him on this email.
That is SUB2020-48.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Sidewalk Easement
Paty,
Are you the reviewer for this phase of Belvedere? Have you been asked to approve sidewalks on private
lots? Thanks.
Andy Herrick
Deputy County Attorney
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From: Garrett Smith <gsmith@resortscompanies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:14 PM
To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>
Subject: Sidewalk Easement
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Andy:
New Belvedere, Inc. has been required to reconfigure some sidewalks to conform them to VDOT maximum approach
angle standards for sidewalk ramps that came into effect after VDOT approved and before we built the sidewalks. This
lead the sidewalk improvements encroaching slightly into the 8 of our corner lots. We are required to dedicate small
variable width public access easements to the County where these sidewalk encroachments exist. Does your office have
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language you require for the deeds to such easements? The easement plat is attached. Thank you for any guidance you
can provide.
Garrett M. Smith, Esq. I New Belvedere, Inc.
P.O. Box 7505 1 Charlottesville, VA 22906
0: (434) 220-7735 1 F: (434) 973-5217 1 M: (434) 960-7775
GSmith@SprinKCreekLiving.com
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Cameron Langille
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2020 9:28 AM
To: Rebecca Ragsdale; Cameron Langille
Subject: Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
#56 & 57 were withdrawn.
Rebecca,
Do you have quick and easy access to the signed versions, with action letters, of any approved variations 58-
60?
If not let me if I should spend some time digging in Granicus etc.
I think I have most of #59 (unit changes in Block 10), including the signed resolution, but I don't have the
action letter cover sheet for it.
I'm not sure if I ever received the signed or action letter versions of #58 and #60.
#58 is the Carriage House changes, and I think #60 are the Block 4 recreational amenities changes.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:43 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
Thanks for clearing that up with the setback/frontage question.
This isn't for Block 10, this is Block 7 where they're just trying to do some easements on a few lots.
Attached are the approved special exceptions I have. Looks like I need variations 56-60.
-Cameron
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:37 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
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Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
First, for Single Family Detached homes the setbacks are categorized by the width of the lots. So "SF 30'-40"'
is the range of single family lot width that the setbacks below that apply to.
If this is for the Belvedere Block 10, that we previously had the meetings about, so far they are only showning
townhouses, but it was my understanding they will have single family detached shown in the second portion
of Block 10.
For townhomes it the setbacks are specified under the "Townhouse" column.
Please not that the front are not "setback" in the traditional sense, they are "Build -to" lines. The buildings
have to fall into that range (8'-16').
The very tricky thing here, if the submission you are reviewing is Block 10, is that what they have proposed is
not yet allowed in the C.O.D. Therefore, when they submit the special exception to allow the townhome lots
in Block 10 need to look at what they have submitted and make sure changes to Table 9 would be required to
do what they are proposing.
Second, we need to make sure that you have the most current information on setbacks.
Do you already have copies of all the approved special exception since the C.O.D. was last updated so that
you could make sure the setbacks/build-to lines were not impacted.
Things have been so crazy that I do not remember if we have ensured you have a copy of all of the approved
ones.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Cameron Langille <blanxille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:12 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
I got my first Belvedere application a couple weeks ago. I'm going through the COD and looking at lot regulation
sections for setbacks. I noticed in the table on page 37 that there are different classes of single family
structures. Specifically, they are broken into groups like SF30'40' and others. Can you explain to me what the numbers
mean in those groups, and how have we typically tracked what version gets built on lots?
Thanks for your help,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blanxille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:17 PM
To: Kevin McDermott; Frank Pohl
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Thanks Kevin. You can go ahead and write that exact info in CV and I will send it to the applicant along with my other
review comments.
For background info —this issue came up because VDOT recently decided that improvements outside of the ROW need
these agreements, correct? Like, this whole thing was started by VDOT because of a new policy or regulation of theirs
and not the County?
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:53 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Let me know what you need on it Cameron but unless something is worked out I would plan to comment in County view
that the applicant needs to provide information on why they are unable to get the facilities within the RoW and outline
the need for a maintenance agreement with the County and possibly a need to wait for approval on an agreement
between the County and VDOT. The agreements may need to go to the Board for approval depending on the outcomes
of the May meeting where we will be discussing this with the Board.
Let me know if you need any additional background or assistance.
Kevin
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:04 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not spoken with the applicant about this one yet. I was unaware that this application was even coming in until it
was assigned to me two weeks ago.
I haven't dived into this one yet, but I suspect that they are trying to do easements instead of revising the ROW because
of either minimum lot size requirements or setbacks.
I'm going to try and look at this one in the coming days to see what the Belvedere Code of Development requires foe the
lots to verify this. In the mean time, I think it's a good idea to push back on them and tell them to either revise the
ROW, or provide us verification that they can't meet a development standard requirements (whatever it is, setbacks or
something else) as Frank suggests.
Let me know your thoughts,
Cameron
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From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:58 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
If it is setbacks, I say they should show us why it won't work. I assume VDOT would allow the right of way to jog at those
corners, but they will need to confirm.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not. These may have been distributed last week but I just saw it for the first time today. It's possible that Cameron
and I had a brief discussion on this a few weeks ago because we knew this was coming in but I can't remember if this
was a the application that discussion was about.
Cameron, do you know if they could find a way to get these into the ROW? What are the limitations pushing these
outside of the ROW?
Thanks,
Kevin
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
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Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermottc&albemarle.orq
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Cameron Langille
From:
Kevin McDermott
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 5:53 PM
To:
Cameron Langille; Frank Pohl
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Let me know what you need on it Cameron but unless something is worked out I would plan to comment in County view
that the applicant needs to provide information on why they are unable to get the facilities within the RoW and outline
the need for a maintenance agreement with the County and possibly a need to wait for approval on an agreement
between the County and VDOT. The agreements may need to go to the Board for approval depending on the outcomes
of the May meeting where we will be discussing this with the Board.
Let me know if you need any additional background or assistance.
Kevin
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:04 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not spoken with the applicant about this one yet. I was unaware that this application was even coming in until it
was assigned to me two weeks ago.
I haven't dived into this one yet, but I suspect that they are trying to do easements instead of revising the ROW because
of either minimum lot size requirements or setbacks.
I'm going to try and look at this one in the coming days to see what the Belvedere Code of Development requires foe the
lots to verify this. In the mean time, I think it's a good idea to push back on them and tell them to either revise the
ROW, or provide us verification that they can't meet a development standard requirements (whatever it is, setbacks or
something else) as Frank suggests.
Let me know your thoughts,
Cameron
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:58 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
If it is setbacks, I say they should show us why it won't work. I assume VDOT would allow the right of way to jog at those
corners, but they will need to confirm.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
218
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not. These may have been distributed last week but I just saw it for the first time today. It's possible that Cameron
and I had a brief discussion on this a few weeks ago because we knew this was coming in but I can't remember if this
was a the application that discussion was about.
Cameron, do you know if they could find a way to get these into the ROW? What are the limitations pushing these
outside of the ROW?
Thanks,
Kevin
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
219
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermott(&albemarle.org
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Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5A3 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject: RE: First Belvedere Question!
Attachments: Code of Development Updated 7 22 14 _thru Variation 52.pdf, ZMA200400007
Belvedere (SE) 11.7.18 BOS action variations 53 54 55.pdf
Hi Paty,
Thanks for clearing that up with the setback/frontage question.
This isn't for Block 10, this is Block 7 where they're just trying to do some easements on a few lots.
Attached are the approved special exceptions I have. Looks like I need variations 56-60.
-Cameron
From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:37 PM
To: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
First, for Single Family Detached homes the setbacks are categorized by the width of the lots. So "SF 30'-40"'
is the range of single family lot width that the setbacks below that apply to.
If this is for the Belvedere Block 10, that we previously had the meetings about, so far they are only showning
townhouses, but it was my understanding they will have single family detached shown in the second portion
of Block 10.
For townhomes it the setbacks are specified under the "Townhouse" column.
Please not that the front are not "setback" in the traditional sense, they are "Build -to" lines. The buildings
have to fall into that range (8'-16').
The very tricky thing here, if the submission you are reviewing is Block 10, is that what they have proposed is
not yet allowed in the C.O.D. Therefore, when they submit the special exception to allow the townhome lots
in Block 10 need to look at what they have submitted and make sure changes to Table 9 would be required to
do what they are proposing.
Second, we need to make sure that you have the most current information on setbacks.
Do you already have copies of all the approved special exception since the C.O.D. was last updated so that
you could make sure the setbacks/build-to lines were not impacted.
Things have been so crazy that I do not remember if we have ensured you have a copy of all of the approved
ones.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
221
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:12 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <rragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
I got my first Belvedere application a couple weeks ago. I'm going through the COD and looking at lot regulation
sections for setbacks. I noticed in the table on page 37 that there are different classes of single family
structures. Specifically, they are broken into groups like SF30'40' and others. Can you explain to me what the numbers
mean in those groups, and how have we typically tracked what version gets built on lots?
Thanks for your help,
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blaneille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
222
Cameron Langille
From:
Patricia Saternye
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 5:37 PM
To:
Cameron Langille
Cc:
Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject:
Re: First Belvedere Question!
Cameron,
First, for Single Family Detached homes the setbacks are categorized by the width of the lots. So "SF 30'-40"'
is the range of single family lot width that the setbacks below that apply to.
If this is for the Belvedere Block 10, that we previously had the meetings about, so far they are only showning
townhouses, but it was my understanding they will have single family detached shown in the second portion
of Block 10.
For townhomes it the setbacks are specified under the "Townhouse" column.
Please not that the front are not "setback" in the traditional sense, they are "Build -to" lines. The buildings
have to fall into that range (8'-16').
The very tricky thing here, if the submission you are reviewing is Block 10, is that what they have proposed is
not yet allowed in the C.O.D. Therefore, when they submit the special exception to allow the townhome lots
in Block 10 need to look at what they have submitted and make sure changes to Table 9 would be required to
do what they are proposing.
Second, we need to make sure that you have the most current information on setbacks.
Do you already have copies of all the approved special exception since the C.O.D. was last updated so that
you could make sure the setbacks/build-to lines were not impacted.
Things have been so crazy that I do not remember if we have ensured you have a copy of all of the approved
ones.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Albemarle County
From: Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:12 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Cc: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org>
Subject: First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty,
I got my first Belvedere application a couple weeks ago. I'm going through the COD and looking at lot regulation
sections for setbacks. I noticed in the table on page 37 that there are different classes of single family
structures. Specifically, they are broken into groups like SF30'40' and others. Can you explain to me what the numbers
mean in those groups, and how have we typically tracked what version gets built on lots?
Thanks for your help,
223
Cameron
Cameron Langille I Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blangille@albemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
224
Cameron Langille
From:
Cameron Langille
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 5:12 PM
To:
Patricia Saternye
Cc:
Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject:
First Belvedere Question!
Hi Paty
I got my first Belvedere application a couple weeks ago. I'm going through the COD and looking at lot regulation
sections for setbacks. I noticed in the table on page 37 that there are different classes of single family
structures. Specifically, they are broken into groups like SF30'40' and others. Can you explain to me what the numbers
mean in those groups, and how have we typically tracked what version gets built on lots?
Thanks for your help,
Cameron
Cameron Langille ) Senior Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Division
blangille(cDalbemarle.org
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3432
225
Cameron Langille
From: Cameron Langille
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 5:04 PM
To: Frank Pohl; Kevin McDermott
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not spoken with the applicant about this one yet. I was unaware that this application was even coming in until it
was assigned to me two weeks ago.
I haven't dived into this one yet, but I suspect that they are trying to do easements instead of revising the ROW because
of either minimum lot size requirements or setbacks.
I'm going to try and look at this one in the coming days to see what the Belvedere Code of Development requires foe the
lots to verify this. In the mean time, I think it's a good idea to push back on them and tell them to either revise the
ROW, or provide us verification that they can't meet a development standard requirements (whatever it is, setbacks or
something else) as Frank suggests.
Let me know your thoughts,
Cameron
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:58 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
If it is setbacks, I say they should show us why it won't work. I assume VDOT would allow the right of way to jog at those
corners, but they will need to confirm.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blanRille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not. These may have been distributed last week but I just saw it for the first time today. It's possible that Cameron
and I had a brief discussion on this a few weeks ago because we knew this was coming in but I can't remember if this
was a the application that discussion was about.
Cameron, do you know if they could find a way to get these into the ROW? What are the limitations pushing these
outside of the ROW?
Thanks,
226
Kevin
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
227
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner —Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermott(&albemarle.org
228
Cameron Langille
From:
Frank Pohl
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4:58 PM
To:
Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
If it is setbacks, I say they should show us why it won't work. I assume VDOT would allow the right of way to jog at those
corners, but they will need to confirm.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:54 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not. These may have been distributed last week but I just saw it for the first time today. It's possible that Cameron
and I had a brief discussion on this a few weeks ago because we knew this was coming in but I can't remember if this
was a the application that discussion was about.
Cameron, do you know if they could find a way to get these into the ROW? What are the limitations pushing these
outside of the ROW?
Thanks,
Kevin
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
229
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermott(&albemarle.orq
230
Cameron Langille
From:
Kevin McDermott
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4:54 PM
To:
Frank Pohl; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
I have not. These may have been distributed last week but I just saw it for the first time today. It's possible that Cameron
and I had a brief discussion on this a few weeks ago because we knew this was coming in but I can't remember if this
was a the application that discussion was about.
Cameron, do you know if they could find a way to get these into the ROW? What are the limitations pushing these
outside of the ROW?
Thanks,
Kevin
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:45 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
231
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermott(coalbemarle.org
232
Cameron Langille
From:
Frank Pohl
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4A5 PM
To:
Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Have you or Cameron pushed back on the applicant to adjust the right-of-way to include those areas?
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fPohl @albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
233
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner —Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermott(&albemarle.org
234
Cameron Langille
From:
Kevin McDermott
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4:34 PM
To:
Frank Pohl; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Sorry SUB2020000048.
From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Cameron Langille <blaneille@albemarle.ore>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermottc@albemarle.org
235
Cameron Langille
From:
Frank Pohl
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4:32 PM
To:
Kevin McDermott; Cameron Langille
Subject:
RE: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Kevin,
I am seeing SUB2020-00004 as Berkmar Overlook Road Plans. Please confirm so I can look up the submittal.
Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM
County Engineer
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 (ext. 7914)
From: Kevin McDermott <kmcdermott@albemarle.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Cameron Langille <blangille@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermottc@albemarle.org
236
Cameron Langille
From:
Kevin McDermott
Sent:
Monday, March 23, 2020 4:21 PM
To:
Frank Pohl; Cameron Langille
Subject:
SUB202000004 Belvedere Easement Plat
Are these subject easement plats assumed to be ones that will fall under the agreement we are going to the Board with
in May? That would mean we would need an agreement b/t the developer and the County for future maintenance but
we shouldn't be approving these until we have that agreement in place. Let me know if I am missing something here.
Thanks,
Kevin
Kevin M. McDermott
Principal Planner — Transportation
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 Ext. 3414
kmcdermottC(Dalbemarle.org
237
Cameron Langille
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:34 AM
To: Cameron Langille
Subject: SUB2020-48
Good morning Cameron:
I have uploaded documents to County View for SUB2020-48.
Thank you!
Jen Smith
Intake Support Specialist ll
Albemarle County— Community Development
401 McIntire Rd.
Charlottesville, VA 22902
(434) 296-5832 ext. 3835
Jsmith2(a) abemarle. org
238
Cameron Langille
From:
Laserfiche-Notification@albemarle.org
Sent:
Thursday, March 19, 2020 8:32 AM
To:
Cameron Langille
Cc:
CDD Submittal
Subject:
Re -Submission from CDD Portal - Transaction #00003954
Re -Submission was made to CDD Portal. Please review.
Summary of Submission:
Project: Belvedere Sidewalk Easement
App Number: SUB202000048
Name: Bethany Velasquez
Email: bethany@roudabush.com
Phone:434-977-0205
Files Submitted: Belv. Sidewalk Esmts.pdf
View Files Submitted: http://cob-ificheO3/WebLinkWA/Search.aspx?dbid=2&searchcommand=[[CDD-
W ebSubm issions]: [Recei ptNum ber]="00003954"]
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