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January 11, 1977
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting on Tuesday, January 11,
1977, 7:30 p.m., Board Room, County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia.
Those members present were David W. Carr, Chairman; Peter Easter, Vice -Chairman;
Roy Barksdale; Kurt M. Gloeckner; Dr. James Moore; Leslie Jones; Paul M. Peatross;
and Mrs. Joan Graves. Absent were Col. William Washington and Mrs. Opal David,
ex-Officio. Other officials present were Robert Tucker, Director of Planning;
Ronald Keeler, Assistant Director of Planning; and Frederick W. Payne, Deputy County
Attorney.
order.
The chairman established that a quorum was present and called the meeting to
Minutes of January 4, 1977, were deferred until the next meeting.
SP-96-76. Hickory Ridge Ltd.
Mr. Keeler reported that the applicant had requested withdrawal without
prejudice.
Mr. Barksdale moved that this request be accepted. The motion, seconded
by Mr. Easter, carrried unanimously, with no discussion.
ZTA-76-11. Elizabeth Washington has petitioned the Board of Supervisors
to amend the A-1 Agricultural Zone of the Zoning Ordinance to provide for
"Senior Citizen Group Home" by special use permit.
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SP-97-76. Elizabeth Washington has petitioned the Board of Supervisors
to locate a Senior Citizen Group Home on 2.0 acres zoned A-1 Agricultural.
Property is located off Route 724 near Howardsville. County Tax Map 139,
Parcel 8, Scottsville Magisterial District.
Mr. Keeler suggested that the Commission review the two requests simultaneously.
( Mr. Jones entered the meeting. )
Mr. Keeler proceeded with the staff reports, noting that in the case of
SP-97-76, he had received information that date from the Fire Marshal stating
such a use would be reviewed under the same provisions as a hotel or motel.
Mr. Barksdale questioned if the dwelling on the property would meet the
Fire Marshal's requirements. Mr. Keeler stated that in his opinion, it would not,
though he had not / someone from the Building Inspections Department view the site.
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Mr. Easter asked if the applicant were aware of the manner in which
the Fire Marshal would review such an establishment.
Mr. Keeler stated "no", that he himself_ had only found out that day.
Mr. Gloeckner stated in his opinion two acres is too small to accommodate
ten adults, who will occasionally have guests - in light of the fact that two
acres in the ordinance is to accommodate a single-family dwelling. In that case
3.7 persons is the figure on which the acreage is based for utilities, etc.
Mrs. Washington stated that her intent had been to provide a place for old
people, where someone would be available to care for them. This is not to be a
nursing home.
Mr. Peatross questioned how much work would have to be put into the house
to make it livable.
Mrs. Washington stated that it is in a state of disrepair. However, she
had considered putting two modulars on the property.
Mr. Peatross asked if she understood that the Fire Marshal will have
stringent restrictions, which would make for unexpected expenses. He stated that
he did not want the applicant to be misled.
Mr. Carr agreed that a need for what she described exists. However, he
stated he is not informed about guidelines and restrictions that should be
followed.
Mr. Peatross asked if she has any plans for upgrading the road.
Mrs. Washington stated that she has talked to a friend about this. Also
she stated that a gentleman from the Health Department was supposed to meet with
her on the property, however, weather conditions had not permitted such a meeting.
Mrs. Graves suggested that Mrs. Washington meet with the Fire Marshal in
order that he could explain to her what would be required. During the meantime,
the Commission could discuss the possibility of amending the ordinance.
Mr. Carr stated that small individually operated facilites for the elderly
have a degree of desirability, but there are many rules and guidelines that have to
be met. He pointed out that this is not a simple undertaking for an individual or
for the County of Albemarle.
Mrs. Graves suggested that Thomas Jefferson Planning District would have the
guidelines for such a project, since they plan for the care of the elderly.
Mr. Tucker suggested that Social Services of the County could also be helpful.
Mr. Carr suggested that the proper agents should guide Mrs. Washington and
tell her the ramifications. He asked if the staff could assist Mrs. Washington.
Mr. Gloeckner also stated that he felt there should be a discussion on
the proper zone for such a facility; the location, number of people, etc.
should also be discussed. He pointed out that this is a whole new undertaking.
Mrs. Graves suggested that in view of this the Commission did not consider
such matters when the home for children came up for discussion.
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Mr. Carr stated that his feelings at that time had been that Tros-Dale
Home for Boys had been an on -going agency who had experience and had been successful
in its purposes.
Mr. Easter stated that someone needs to address with the applicant the project's
viability.
Mr. Carr stated that an interested group with information on such projects
should also be involved in that discussion with the applicant.
Mr. Easter stated that he would put these suggestions in the form of a motion
to defer until the applicant could discuss requirements with the Fire Marshal and
until the proper agency with information and guidelines could meet with the applicant.
He recommended that requests for ZTA-76-11 and SP-97-76 be deferred until then.
He stated that the County needs to aid the housing for the elderly.
Mr. Barksdale seconded the motion to defer the two requests.
The motion carried unanimously with no further discussion.
Mr. Carr stated that there is interest in such a project, but there is lots
of authority on the controls for this.
Mr. Peatross questioned the other problems in boarding houses addressed in
the staff report.
Mr. Tucker stated that this is a problem in housing where parts of a house
are rented to University students.
NEW BUSINESS:
a. Staff request for a resolution of intent to amend the setback requirements
as it relates to the Scenic Highway Ordinance:
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report, noting that this is essentially the
same thing as was done in the A-1 zone. He stated that this is a proposal to make
structures existing at the time of scenic designation conforming.
Mr. Jones asked if this would give them the right to rebuild in case of fire.
Mr. Keeler replied that it would not.
Mr. Payne stated that the B.Z.A. had that date addressed requests for three
variances. At the hearing the B.Z.A. had brought up that it would be useful to
exclude B-1 properties from the 150 foot building setback. They had also stated
it would be a good idea to exempt pre-existing subdivisions.
Mr. Carr stated that in the B-1, what they are suggesting is that the setback
is too large and should be relaxed. He said that he did not necessarily agree with this.
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Mr. Payne stated that one.of the reasons for this suggestion is that
B-1 property tends to be more expensive per square foot and such a setback tends
to act to the detriment of the developer.
Mr. Keeler stated that this is an imposed scenic easement. Perhaps the
developers ( or owners of the B-1 property ) should realize a tax break. He stated
that the Zoning Administrator has been considering taking this matter to the Board.
Mr. Payne stated that he would like to clarify that the B.Z.A. did not say
it is going to ignore all the restrictions and grant a series of variances to business
properties along scenic highways. Some provisions, they felt, should remain -
those addressing signs, buffers to parking areas, etc. But they did find the 150
foot setback inappropriate.
Mr. Peatross questioned the number of variances that had come about because
of the provision in the Scenic Highway Ordinance.
Mr. Keeler stated that he does not know, however, he had received a memo
from the Zoning Administrator stating that he has spoken to a considerable number
of businessmen and citizen homeowners who are confused as to whether or not they may
further enlarge their exisitng structures that are found within the new scenic highway
setback of 1.50 feet. He stated that a clarification would insure uniformity of
application.
Mr. Carr asked Mr. Tucker his feelings on the matter.
Mr. Tucker stated that the proposal is to have a resolution of intent
from the Commission. It was proposed by the staff in order to alleviate some
of the problems the B.Z.A. has been dealing with.
Mr. Carr said that before there is a resolution, perhaps the Commission
should be informed about the number and kinds of problems that the Zoning Administrator
and the B.Z.A. have had to deal with.
Mr. Barksdale asked if it is possible that the Zoning Administrator will take
the matter to the Board if the Commission does not pass a resolution of intent.
Mr. Tucker stated that the Zoning Administrator anticipates some problems,
and for this reason he may take the matter to the Board. However, he may wait until
the problems actually arise.
Mr. Gloeckner also felt that the Commission should wait to pass a resolution
until it feels the pressure since it is possible that the Commission would be undoing
some of the good it had tried to accomplish when it set the restrictions on setbacks
in the Scenic Highway Ordinance.
Mrs. Graves stated that if the B.Z.A. is granting variances that the Commission
would not agree with, the Commission should state its feelings to this body.
Mr. Carr suggested hearing directly from the Zoning Administrator.
The consensus of the Commission was to have input from the Zoning Administrator
and establish a need before a resolution of intent is passed.
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b. Clarification of Section 18-3-1 - staff request for resolution of intent:
Mr. Keeler stated that in Section 18-3-1 it is the staff's opinion that the
wording should be amended to read: " nor within one -hundred seventy-five feet of the
centerline " rather than from the right-of-way. He explained that in the case of a
40 foot right-of-way, the setback would be 195 feet, whereas if the right-of-way
were 150 feet, the setbackJ175 feet. He stated that the revision would be equitable.
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Mr. Easter asked if this were requested because the rights -of -way vary.
Mr. Keeler stated this is the case.
Mr. Carr said that one figure to control all circumstances is necessary.
Mr. Peatross moved that the Commission adopt a resolution of intent to
make the suggested revision.
Mr. Gloeckner seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, with no further
discussion.
Mr. Carr asked that this matter be held until the previous item of discussion
is settled in order that they might be put on the same agenda for the convenience of
interested citizens.
C. Staff Request for resolution of intent to amend the A-1 Zone to provide
for Two-family dwellings as a use by right:
Mr. Keeler stated that the staff suggests this be a use by right in the A-1
zone on a minimum lot size of four acres. He stated that the staff also requests
repeal of Section 2-1-25(3A) which provides for two-family dwellings by special
use permit on a minimum lot size of two acres. He presented several reasons the
staff proposes this request:
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1. Of the 30 special permit applications for two-familyo date, 17 have been for parcels
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of four acres or greater;
2. Repeal of this as a special permit use would reduce Planning Commission, Board
of Supervisors, and staff time spent in review;
3. The Health Department has recommended a minimum of 60,000 square feet
( approximatley 11i acres ) per unit without central water and sewer. Under
the current zoning provisions, two-family dwellings are provided for at a density
of one unit per acre;
4. Staff opinion is that two-family dwellings by right would not destroy the character
of the A-1 zone. To the contrary, a two-family dwelling is less physically
disruptive than two single-family units.
Mrs. Graves questioned how many of the 17 have been approved. Mr.
Keeler stated that he did not check since this is just a request for a resolution
of intent.
Mr. Easter stated that there have been some extenuating circumstances, but
the County did not approve most of the requests.
Mr. Carr asked if this addesses what most think of as two-family dwellings -
common drive, one structure with two doors, common wall? He asked how many the County
will see if it becomes a use by right.
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Mr. Barksdale stated that he feels this is a good suggestion.
Mr. Easter said that the matter merits discussion and input from the
public and he moved that the Commission adopt a resolution of intent to amend
the ordiance and repeal Section 2-1-25(3A).
Mrs. Graves seconded this motion.
Mr. Carr stated that he has mixed feelings about this issue.
The motion to adopt the resolution of intent carried unanimously, with no
further discussion
d. Mr. Tucker informed the Planning Commission that the Charlottesville
Housing Foundation will hold a meeting to discuss low income housing in the County
on January 19, 3:00 p.m.
Mr. Carr appointed Mrs. Graves as the Planning Commission's representative
to that meeting to later relate that information discussed to the Commission.
e. Mr. Tucker stated that he has a request from one of the surveyors in
the area regarding two plats. These plats were deferred at the technical meeting
since the surveyor was not present. The surveyor now requests that since he has
received all the input from the representatives on that committee, that the
items be placed on this month's Planning Commission agenda. Mr. Tucker further
explained that it has been the policy of Mrs. Scala, who conducts those meetings,
to defer any action on the plats until the applicant or his representative is present.
He stated that the ordinance allows the technical committee to make its own rules,
though they are subject to review by the Commission. These rules have not been
reviewed by the Commission, and thus he asked the pleasure of the Commission on this
matter. However, he pointed out that the technical committee has deferred taking
action on other applicants when their representative has not been present and it
seems unfair to make an exception in this case.
Mr. Carr stated that unless there was dissent, the Commission will not
hear the two requests until the technical committee has properly reviewed them.
There was no dissent.
Mr. Payne suggested that the Commission endorse the rule in question that
evening, since the surveyor has already requested if the procedure being followed
is lawful.
Mr. Easter pointed out that the technical review is generally for the benefit
of the applicant.
Mr. Carr requested that in the next week or two the Commission be given the
rules under which the technical committee operates in order that the Commission
could review them.
Mr. Barksdale moved that if the applicant is not present at the technical
meeting, that action be deferred by that committee until the applicant is present
and the Planning Commission will hear a request only after proper review by this
committee. Mr. Jones seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, with no
discussion.
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Mr. Tucker also encouraged the Planning Commission to adopt its own
rules of procedure in order that these may be put on file in the Planning
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Department.
The Commission unanimously agreed to this suggestion.
Mrs. Graves stated that the Commission needs to address notification of
adjacent owners of the technical review meeting, since this is part of the ordinance.
Mr. Easter also noted that the staff should bring to the Commission and
Board all those items which are out-of-date and should be struck from the Zoning
Ordinance.
With no further business, the chairman adjourned the meeting at 9:00 p.m.
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