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November 15, 1977
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a meeting on
Tuesday, November 15, 1977, 7:30 p.m., Board Room, County Office Building,
Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present were Mr. David Carr, Chairman;
Mr. Peter Easter, Vice -Chairman; Mr. Kurt Gloeckner; Mr. Roy Barksdale; Col. William
Washington; Mr. Leslie Jones; Mrs. Joan Graves; Mr. Paul Peatross, Jr.; and Mrs.
Opal David, ex-Officio. Absent was Dr. James Moore. Other officials present were
Mr. Robert Tucker, Jr., Director of Planning; Mr. Ronald S. Keeler, Assistant Director
of Planning; Mr. Carlos Montenegro, Planner; and Mr. Frederick W. Payne, Deputy
County Attorney.
Mr. Carr established that a quorum was present and called the meeting to order.
Minutes of October 25, 1977, were deferred until a later date.
SP-77-61. Robert Sweeney has petitioned the Board of Supervisors to make
an existing nonconforming public garage, with the sale of used cars,
conforming unter Section 2-1-24(23) on 7.75 acres zoned A-1. Property is located
on the south side of Route 53. County Tax Map 93, Parcel 47E, Scottsville
Magisterial District.
At the request of the applicant, Mr. Barksdale moved that any action and
discussion on this matter be deferred until November 29, 1977. Col. Washington seconded
the motion, which carried unanimously.
Mr. Jones asked that the history of the property be brought to the Commission.
Mr. Tucker stated that this could be done at the public hearing.
SP-77-73. Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority has petitioned the Board
of Supervisors to amend SP-373 ( a special use permit for an advanced
wastewater treatment plant ) in order to amend one of the conditions of
approval. The 49.52 acres involved is zoned A-1 Agricultural and located
north of Interstate 64 at the confluence of Moore's Creek and Rivanna River.
County Tax Map 77, Parcel 38B, Rivanna Magisterial District.
At the request of the applicant, Col. Washington moved that the discussion
and action be deferred until November 29, 1977. The motion was seconded by Mr. Easter,
and carried by unanimous vote, with no discussion.
Pizza Inn/Mr. Donut Site Plan:
Mr. Montenegro stated that this site plan had been deferred in order that the
Highway Department representative should be present, and in order that the Highway
Department study on the traffic light at the intersetion of Dominion Drive and
Route 29 North could be completed. He briefly reviewed the history of the site
plan for the Commission. He then read the letter from the Highway Department
regarding the traffic signal evaluation, noting according to this evaluation,
no traffic signal is warranted by the turning movements during the
peak hours from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
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Therefore, the Highway Department could not recommend the installation regardless
of who would pay the cost of installation.
Mr. Carr noted for the public and the Commission that this matter had
been discussed on several occasions by the Commission and the public. He noted
that this was not a public hearing on this site plan, and wondered how
much discussion was necessary that evening.
Mr. Peatross asked if the applicant's proposal shows traffic through Shopper's
World as two-way. Mr. Montenegro said that it is two-way traffic shown on the plan.
Mr. Jones established from Mr. Coburn, the Highway Department representative,
that he was not aware of any recent accidents at Dominion Drive.
Mr. James Cosby, representing the Berkeley Homeowners Assocation, stated that
he wished once again to show the photographs of the Berkeley entrance. He urged
that the Commission support the 29 entrance only concept. He reviewed his reasons
for objecting to the other alternatives that had been discussed at the previous
three meetings.
Mr. Peatross asked if the staff has considered an exit -only from the site
into Shopper's World. He felt that this might be safer by eliminating part of the
hazard.
Mr Graves said that she fears that a major intersection is ahead at Dominion
because/Re* proposed entrance at Branchlands. Furthermore, she cited the fact that one
crossover would be closed.
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Mrs. Graves then moved approval of the plat subject to the/conditions
recommended by the staff, with a 29 entrance only, and an exit only to Shopper's
World.
Mr. Jones seconded this motion.
Mr. David Wood stated that this is unacceptable for any sort of successful
commercial use. Furthermore, he stated that it is not legally possible to have
an access -only from a state road.
Mr. Payne advised the Commission that it has the powers to regulate traffic
for the health, safety, and welfare of the public.
Mr. Easter stated that the traffic in Shopper's World is already a problem
and therefore, this motion concerned him, since it would put more traffic through the
shopping center.
The motion lost by a vote of 3-5, with Messrs. Carr, Easter, Gloeckner,
Peatross, Barksdale dissenting.
Mr. Easter then moved approval with the seven conditions recommended by the
staff with the Dominion Drive Access only alternative, with no entrance/exit to
the shopping center.
Mr. Gloeckner asked for the staff opinion on this motion.
Mr. Montenegro replied that the staff feels that this is best alternative,
since it will in the long run have the least impact on Dominion Drive. The Highway
Department also supported this alternative.
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Mr. Coburn of the Highway Department agreed that this is correct. He
said that technically the Highway Department would be required to give the developer
access to Dominion Drive and Route 29 North.
This motion died for lack of a second.
Mr. Gloeckner then moved approval of the applicant's proposal with the
seven condition, with a stacking lane at the entrance on Dominion, and with
access only into Shopper's World
Mr. Easter seconded this motion, which lost by a vote of 4-4. Those
dissenting were Mrs. Graves, Col. Washington, Mr. Jones, and Mr. Carr.
At this point Mr. Cosby interjected that the Berkeley homeowners support
the access/egress only through Shopper's World.
Mr. Easter moved approval of the site plan with the seven condition, with
a Dominion Drive access/only.
Mr. Gloeckner seconded this motion, which lost by a vote of 4-4. Those
dissenting were Mr. Carr, Mrs. Graves, Col. Washington, and Mr. Jones.
At this point the Commission unanimously adopted a resolution of intent to
send the site plan to the Board of Supervisors, stating that it had been unable
to arrive at a decision.
The Albemarle County Board of Supervisors has directed the Albemarle County
Planning Commission to hold a public haring to consider a proposed amendment
to the County Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map to establish a reservoir
protective district as an overlay zone. The area under consideration is
that land within the watershed of the South Fork Rivanna River Reservoir
bounded by an arc of five mile radius from the water treatment plant intake
pipe.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report stating in the following amendment
proposals:
(1) Zoning Ordinance - A new district - Reservoir Protective District - would be
created which would overlay existing zones. The uses of the underlying zones
would remain essentially the same, subject to environmental site development
standards derived from the Comprehensive Plan and Betz Study;
(2) An Ordinance for the Protection of Water in Public Drinking Water Supply
Impoundments ( Run-off Control Ordinance ) - The run-off control official would
review certain uses regardless of existing ordinance exemptions;
(3) Soil Erosion and Sedimentation Control Ordinance - Stricter guidelines for grading
on steeper slopes; provision for protecting immediate stream environs;
(40 Land Subdivision and Development Ordinance - The Planning Commission may require
cluster subdivision apporach over conventional subdivision if such would be
beneficial.
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The staff stated that it recommends that any zoning change measure intended to
protect the Rivanna Reservoir should be applied to the entire watershed. Mr. Keeler
advised the Commission that approximately 31,700 acres will be removed from having
any structures withing the 200' setback as currently covered by the Run-off Control
Ordinance.
Mr. Keeler read the proposed amendments to the Commission and the public.
Mr. Jones asked if this amendment provides that construction can take place on
slopes of 25% or greater under certain stringent guidelines, for instance a house
built on pilings. Mr. Keeler stated that it does not. However, he did state that
any provision setforth in the Zoning Ordinance is subject to waiver by the Board of
Zoning Appeals under cases of extreme hardship.
Mrs. Graves questioned how the degree of slope will be determined. Mr. Keeler
stated that the staff will be recommending a 5' contour and the staff will have to
provide a usable scaled map for the entire watershed. Otherwise, the expense to the
property owner for a topographic map at this scale would be prohibitive. Mrs. Graves
said that what she was thinking about was if an individual property owner would have
to have a survey prior to building a single-fmaily unit. Mr. Keeler said that this
is a technical question that will have to be established.
Mr. Barksdale said that all information prior to this had been based on
no buildings on slopes of 25% or greater, and if so, some type of inspection prior
to its being done. Mr. Keeler stated that some density will be removed because of
the increased slopes. Mr. Barkdale then asked the basis for determining the 15-25%
slope being discussed in the proposed amendments. Mr. Keeler stated that the table
is taken directly from the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Keeler further stated that the
staff was directed to take the Comprehensive Plan and the Betz Study, put them together,
and arrive at the necessary amendments. Mr. Barksdale asked if the Betz Study follows
this line of thinking. Mr. Keeler said that the Comprehensive Plan does not state
that construction cannot occur on slopes of 25% or greater. Mr. Keeler said that is
the idea put forth in the Betz Study. It says that as far as slopes of 15-25% the
Run-off Control Officer should really scrutinize the plan. Mr. Barksdale said that this
could result in a drastic reduction in density permitted on R-3 land. Mr. Tucker said
that this decision was based on the slope.
Mr. Stallings said that the Betz Study had revealed that Morton is the prime
contributor to problems with the reservoir. He said that this proposal would drive
the cost of housing out of sight, and that Morton, in his opinion, should be taxed
for the reservoir problem as opposed to development. He said that Morton has not been
asked to do anything about this problem. He said that everything the County seems
to do drives the cost of housing up. He suggested that this would likewise have a
drastic effect on the tax base.
Mr. Wendell Wood stated that this had been a topic of discussion, in one
fashion or another, for the past five years. He suggested that the County attack its
prime objective in a straightforward manner. He said that essentially this boils
down to no growth in Albemarle County. He said that if the land around the reservoir
were developed as zoned, it would have only an impact of 1% on the reservoir. He said
that even the staff report in the past thirty days reflects this. He noted that this
zoning and development would take the county to the year 2000 ( he was speaking of
the 1% impact on the reservoir ). He noted that the majority of the land in the
reservoir will be drastically affected. He noted that this will eventually affect
the other watersheds in the county, as well as the Rivanna Watershed. Essentially it
will have the effect of downzoning the entire county. He also suggested that no one
has any idea of the effect of the Run-off Control Ordinance, and that ordinance puts
most of the land in the county under a state that is already putting off more phosphorus
than is permitted - he said that this is without "touching a leaf on it."
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He said that in the case of Panarama, his development on the reservoir, is already
putting off more siltation and phosphorus, with trees growing on it, than is permitted
in the run-off control ordinance.
Mr. Carr advised Mr. Wood and other members of the public that the Commission
never saw that ordinance.
Mrs. David stated that that ordinance was drafted with the assistance of the
Betz consultants. It was drawn up on the basis of their information and under their
guidelines.
Mr. Wood asked if anyone had tried to apply it to Albemarle County. Mrs. David
stated that she did not know "why they should have."
Mr. Wood said that the result of that ordinance is that there will be no growth
in that area. However, he felt that the County has a responsibility to inform all
the property owners what is being done to them with this ordinance. He said that what
has essentially happened is confiscation, and this RPD will merely carry it to a greater
extent. He further suggested that those persons who are interested in this matter should
go to the County Engineering Department and see just exactly what can be developed in
the County. He suggested that county taxes should be lowered to take care of all this.
He again stated that this RPD would only protect the reservoir by lowering the impact
upon it to in the next twenty-five years.
Mr. Keeler said that the planning staff has requested that the engineering
department review the figures that say only to will be affected, and that it certify
if these fugures are accurate.
Mr. Gary Kendall, an attorney representing himself, posed the hypothetical
circumstances that a 10 acre lot in a subdivision within the watershed is now affected
by this run-off control ordinance and proposed RPD. He asked if the County plans
compensation for the landowner, because of his inability to use the property.
He further noted that the zoning and subdivision had been approved by the county for
that use.
Mr. Payne did not see that as a problem under this drafted amendment. He said
that proposed Section 20-4 makes a provision for existing lots.
Mr. Wood asked if the property owner, in this hypothetical situation, would
have to conform to the run-off control ordinance. Mr. Payne said that the run-off
control ordinance is already in existence, and certainly he would have to comply with
that.
Mr. Carr said that he felt Mr. Wood's point is that development under the
run-off control ordinance cannot occur on slopes in excess of 25%.
Mr. Payne stated that in some cases here a landowner might have to be compensated.
Mr. Keeler stated that first a landowner would have to prove he cannot meet
the ordinance for his lot. If a piece of property can meet the ordinance, it certainly
should. Mr. Keeler further stated that some exemptions should be developed.
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Mr. Frank Kessler asked if a 1.1 acre lot, over 25% in slope, can be built
upon. If not, who can the owners see? He stated that he has a Health Department
permit for the septic system. Mr. Carr stated that unless he currently has a run-off
control permit he cannot built on it at this point, regardless of the RPD amendments.
Mr. Keeler stated that the staff is attempting to draw up a list of exemptions.
Furthermore, Mr. Keeler stated that this was probably a lot of record prior to
the run-off control ordinance, and all lots of record can be used for single-family
residences, and hopefully be exempt to the run-off control ordinance.
Mrs. Garland stated that those who are going to be affected by
the ordinance need to understand it as opposed to being told that exemptions,etc.
are going to be worked on. She asked how something could be passed by the County
that might be different after the exemptions are worked out.
Mr. Carr stated that one of the reasons for the public hearing is to get
input from the public, from the Commission, etc. in order that the proposal can be
refined and so that everyone can understand it.
Mr. Chuck Lebo stated that it appears from the discussion that
each property owner who wants to do anything with his property must first employ an
engineer to study the effects of that property's run-off under the run-off control
ordinance. He felt as though other experts in various fields might also have to
be employed, and this could become a rather costly affair. He said that with all these
expenses soon it will become impossible to build a house in Albemarle County.
Mr. Mat Rittberg, as an individual property owner on the reservoir, stated that
he objects to any sort of conservation zoning with taxes remaining on the R-2 schedule.
Mr. Carr said that he does not think that that step has been taken. Mr. Rittberg sad his
home, a single-family unit, is located on R-2 land, and with the tax assessment, his
land is worth more than his home. He felt any differences in tax assessment for
previously zoned property should be made up to the property owners, if the conservation
zone is adopted.
Mr. Dick Bell asked what the 200' setback from streams was based on. He felt
that the filtration of wooded lands is higher than open lands, and noted that this
could certainly be applied to that land which grazes cattle. Mr. Keeler stated
that the 200' setback was established by the "blue ribbon" committee, on which the
State Water Control Board sat. Mr. Bell suggested that some study be done to determine
if it is accurately applied to Albemarle County and to determine if it is even necessary.
Mrs. Graves said that the Commission certainly needs a work session on this
matter, in order to take on the public's questions, as well as other matters involving
these proposed amendments.
Mr. Steve Goodwin felt that one/?wotbasic concerns here is the eutrophication
because of phosphorus. He felt that the studies should be further explored especially
in view of Mr. Wood's statements made that evening.
At this point, Mr. Gloeckner made a rather lengthy statement in which he noted
that in his opinion these amendments would be a case of "over -kill", since the run-off
control ordinance considerably diminishes what can be permitted on property within
the reservoir. He said that he is concerned that pieces of property as they currently
�Ww, exist - wooded with no development - are contributing more phosphorus to the reservoir
that is permitted under the run-off control ordinance. He stated that many of the
figures necessary to do the engineering computations are rather arbitrary in his
opinion, and perhaps it should be ascertained how these figures were arrived at.
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In Mr. Gloeckner's opinion, prior to any action on the amendments, the long-range
effects and a detailed study should be done on the run-off control ordinance. He
suggested that the Commission defer any action on these amendments until that is
done.
The Commission at this point decided that work sessions on the RPD would be
necessary to address the points brought out by the public at this public hearing,
and Mr. Barksdale moved that any further discussion and action be deferred until
November 22, 1977, in order that the staff could be prepared at that time to address
some of those points.
Mr. Jones seconded this motion, which carried unanimously, with no furhter
discussion.
The meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m., with no further business.
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