HomeMy WebLinkAbout05 02 78 PC Minutes!-/55
M
May 2, 1978
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a meeting on Tuesday,
May 2, 1978, 7:30 p.m., Board Room, County Office Building, Charlottesville,
Virginia. Those members present were Mr. Peter Easter, Chairman; Col. William
Washington, Vice -Chairman; Mr. Charles Vest; Mr. James Huffman; Dr. James Moore;
Mrs. Joan Graves; Mrs. Norma Diehl; and Mr. Tim Lindstrom, ex-Officio. Absent
were
were Mr. Kurt Gloeckner and Mr. Layton McCann. Other officials present/Mr. Ronald
Keeler, Assistant Director of Planning; Mr. Robert Tucker, Director of Planning;
and Mr. Frederick Payne, Deputy County Attorney.
Mr. Easter established that a quorum was present and called the meeting
to order.
Minutes of April 18, 1978, were approved as submitted by the chairman.
It was noted for the public that under item "f" of the public hearings,
dealing with the HUD preapplication grants, that "upgrading and extending water
and/or sewer service in the Charlottesville, Scottsville, and White Hall Districts.
Improvements are primarily for use in Westmoreland Subdivision, an area north of Scotts-
ville, and Crozet." had been removed from the item due to the fact that in the past
requests for these have been made, none have been approved, and it is unlikely that
they will be approved this year.
The Meadows Revised Site Plan:
Mr. Keeler reviewed the request for the Commission and public, noting that
this is a proposal to change only the entrance location on the site plan. The
staff recommended approval as submitted by the developer. He noted that the
matter had been deferred in order to receive input from the Highway Department,
and their specific recommendation on the entrance location.
Mr. Byron Coburn of the Highway Department, said that because this entrance
is at the crest of the hill, once the grading is accomplished, it will have in excess
of the minimum site distance, which none of the other possible entrances will have.
He reminded all present that in order to secure the entrance from the Highway Department,
all criteria, including the vertical and horizontal sight distances, must be
met.
Mr. Lou Eaton asked if the southernmost boundary was considered as an entrance.
Mr. Coburn replied that the location Mr. Eaton is discussing, even after grading,
would have adequate sight distance toward Route 250, however the sight distance toward
Crozet would be inadequate.
Mr. Coburn noted that due to the excessive sight distance on the proposal,
a greater reaction time would be afforded /vegicle stops.
Mr. H. H. Tiffany, representing area Crozet citizens, again expressed
concern about the entrance. He feels that since the rezoning went through
the courts and was upheld by the courts, that the original proposal should not
be changed. He did not feel that the cost of cutting back the rock would be any
more a hardship for this developer that other road requirements are for other
developers.
Mr. Frank Smith, architect for the Meadows, said that in his opinion this
is not a significant change in the site plan, since the interior layout remains
the same. He once again pointed out that the Highway Department feels this to be
the best location for the entrance. However, he noted that the developer is willing
to put the entrance anywhere that can be commonly agreed upon. However, the proposal
would afford the developer a savings of approximately $50,000.
Mrs. Diehl suggested that the road be widened in order to provide a left -turn
lane.
Mr. Coburn stated that sufficient right-of-way does not exist for this, unless
it is Rfiape
possible toy er property from others.
Mrs. Graves asked if the Highway Department considers in its entrance standards
possible bad weather, especially snow and ice. Mr. Coburn said they do not.
Col. Washington pointed to the problem of earth disturbance, noting that it
would probably be much less if the entrance were located at the southern boundary.
Mr. Phillips pointed to the problem of cross slopes when considering the
southern boundary .location.
Col. Washington asked if cuts in the property will further hamper what is
proposed on the site plan.
Mr. Smith said that it would not, since some fill is necessary in the interior.
Mrs. Graves suggested that the third lane could be provided by the developer.
Mr. Easter said that since the right-of-way is not adequate, he would have to
acquire property across the street from another property owner.
Mr. Coburn said that the alternative to that would be moving the location of
the road.
Mr. Easter said that if the third lane is added a great deal of fill would
appear to be necessary.
Mr. Huffman said that if the two other possible entrance locations, which
are less desirable that the proposal, would not require a third lane, why require
it here.
Mr. Huffman then moved approval of the requested amendment to the site plan
as submitted by the developer. He reminded the Commission that the purpose of the
deferral was to receive comments from the Highway Department, and they have stated
that the proposal is the safest possible location.
Dr. Moore seconded the motion.
457
Discussion: Col. Washington agreed that the location as shown on the site plan
is safer and cheaper than the northern location, however he did feel that there
is merit in the left -turn lane requirement.
Mrs. Graves said that if the provision of a thrid lane would make the project
more acceptable to the citizens of Crozet, she felt it is the responsibility of the
Board of Supervisors to fully explore this possibility.
The motion to approve the site plan with the amendment as submitted carried
by a vote of 6-1, with Col. Washington dissenting.
SP-78-13. Robert J. Miller has petitioned the Board of Supervisors for a
Home Occupation - Class B ( lawn service, management, and maintenance ) on
6.63+ acres zoned A-1. Property is located on Route 689 approximately 15
mile north of the intersection of Routes 689 and 637. County Tax Map 71, Parcel
15, part thereof. Samuel Miller Magisterial District.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report, noting that there are no objections
to the proposal from the Highway Department due to the condition of the roads.
Mr. Keeler said that he wished to point out to the Commission that there is not
now a home on the property, though at some time in the future the applicant does
state his intent to build a house.
Mrs. Graves asked if there were any other definitions provided for in the A-1
zone that this use might fall under. Mr. Keeler replied that the only one he
might think of is "Agricultural Service Occupation". He also reminded the Commission
that it is not the Zoning Administrator's liberty to refuse an application.
Mr. Easter established that the applicant does not intend to grow turf at
the location mentioned in the staff report, that all he requests is to store his
equipment and machinery.
Mr. Miller said that this is the case. He also noted for the record that he
intends at a later date to build the house for his own use.
Mr. Keeler said that if the property were being farmed, and if a barn existed
on the property, the applicant would be able to do what he is requesting by right.
An adjoining property owner asked if any maintenance and repair of machinery
is planned on the property. Mr. Miller said that he intends to repair only his
own equipment.
Mrs. Graves said that she did not feel this is a fitting application for the
definition of Home Occupation - Class B - since there is no existing house in which
the applicant lives.
Mr. Payne advised the Commission that he does not feel that the special use
permit could be effectuated until there is a house on the property. If a house
were not on the property within 18 months, the special use permit would expire.
Mr. Easter suggested deferring the item until May 9 in order that the
staff and the applicant could discuss other possibilities and in order that there
could be a clarification on the matter. Col. Washington moved that the matter be
deferred until May 9, 1978. Dr. Moore seconded the motion.
�56
Discussion: Mr. Keeler asked if the Planning Commission feels that Home Occupation
Class B requires a house on the property. Mr. Easter said that Mr. Payne advised
the Commission that a house on the property is very specifically addressed in
the definition.
The motion for deferral carried unanimously, with no further discussion.
SP-78-14. Mel -Ray Corporation has petitioned the Board of Supervisors for
71 dwelling units on 3.527+ acres zoned R-3 Residential. Property is located
on the east side of Route 743 across from Georgetown Green and south of
Albemarle High School. County Tax Map 61, Parcel 29, part thereof.
Charlottesville Magisterial District.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. He said that there are no comments
from the Highway Department.
Mrs. Graves asked if the special use permit would imply 21-35 units, or just
the one addition unit Mr. Morris is requesting.
Mr. Payne said that the request specifically addressed one unit to be covered
by this special permit.
Mr. Easter asked if this would be precedent setting for other increased density
applications.
Mr. Payne stated that the use is permitted by special permit, and the fact
that it is provided for in the ordinance means that the county can expect an
application at some point.
Mrs. Elizabeth Watts said that she owns as small parcel to the north,and is
concerned about the vehicular and pedestrian traffic in that area.
Mr. Easter stated that there is an upcoming traffic light at the intersection
of Georgetown and Hydraulic Roads that should help some of the problems of congestion.
Mr. Tucker also stated that the road improvements in that area will come
within the next 1=2-2 years. Public hearings on the right-of-way should come as
early as the fall of this year.
Mrs. Graves moved approval of the special permit subject to the following
condition, noting that she feels that this sets a good precedent:
1. Administrative approval of the amended site plan.
Mr. Huffman seconded the motion which carried unanimously, with no discussion.
SP-78-17. William F. Giannini has petitioned the Board of Supervisors for
a Home Occupation - Class A - on 3 acres zoned B-1 Business. Property is
located on the southeast side of the intersection of Routes 20 and 6 across
from Scottsville Shopping Center. County Tax Map 130A(l), Parcel 49,
Scottsville Magisterial District.
In the absence of the applicant, the Commission tabled this item until later
in the meeting.
'4S1
SP-78-18. James W. Moore has petitioned the Board of Supervisors for
engineering and light manufacturing, with authorization for up to 20
employees, on 2 acres zoned B-1 Business. Property is located on the south
side of Route 738 in Ivy. County Tax Map 58, Parcel 37C, part thereof.
Samuel Miller Magisterial District.
Dr. Moore disqualified himself from the discussion and vote by leaving the
room.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report, reading the letter from Mr. St. John,
county attorney, which stated that the item is not properly before the Commission.
He also read the comments from the Highway Department, addressing existing road
conditions in the area.
Mr. David Lewis, representing Dr. Moore stated that the special permit
is for Mr. Tull's land. He stated that it is/very likely spot for industrial
development, and pointed out that there is M-1 land across the street. No customers
will be coming to the site. The item is not mass-produced, due to the expense.
Furthermore, he did not feel it appropriate to liken this to any sort of foundry.
Mr. Keeler agreed that it was agreeable that the amount of babbitt melted
at one time would be insignificant, and therefore equating it to a foundry is
inappropriate.
Mrs. Lucile Willis, an adjoining property owner, gave a history of the property
to the Commission, stating that the original plans for Dettor, Edward and Morris
have never become a reality. She said that approval of this request would destroy
what residential character is remaining in the area. She also noted concern for Route
738, the school bus route, stating that any added traffic volume is not a good idea. She
questioned if the entire acreage could become an industrial park.
M. S. Willis felt that this would ruin the residential character of the area.
He said that it would not be fair to cut this property into 2-acre parcels for
various industrial uses.
Mr. Herbert Tull, owner of the property in question, said that in 1971 there
was no other place for this sort of business to locate. Furthermore, he felt that
it is possible that the original rezoning covered this property and therefore
this use could be permitted due to the established precedent.
Mr. Easter closed the public hearing.
At the request of the Commission, Mr. Keeler clarified that this use will
make components for machinery that will not be sold or serviced on the property.
Mr. Payne stated that this is not a permitted use in the B-1 zone, and there-
fore it makes no difference that this might be a desirable use to have in the B-1
zone. He said that the ordinance could be amended to provide for it though, if the
county so desires. He said that it is clearly a use provided for in the M-2 zone.
Mr. Easter asked if this use could be permitted under the original application
make in 1971. He asked what would happen if Mr. Tull would incorporate and make
Bearing a subsidiary of his own operation.
Mr. Payne said that he does not feel that the ownership makes that much difference.
q &C)
Mrs. Graves said that this is her problem once again, about tying the
special use permit to the entire acreage of a parcel. She suggested that this
matter be addressed at the time of revision of the zoning ordinance.
Col. Washington moved that any further discussion and action be deferred
until June 13, 1978, in order that the applicant, if he so desires, could make
a request for an amendment to the zoning ordinance.
The Commission specificially clarified that it is not endorsing any intent at
this time regarding possible amendment.
Mrs. Graves seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, with no further
discussion.
ZMA-78-04. Robert David Rosson has petitioned the Board of Supervisors
to rezone 4 acres from RS-1 Residential to A-1 Agriculture. Property is
located on the north side of Route 250 West, approximately � mile east of
the intersection of Routes 250 and 750. County Tax Map 69A, Lots 8, 9,
10, 2, 3, 94, and 95. Samuel Miller Magisterial District.
In the absence of the applicant, the Commission tabled this item until the
end of the meeting.
(Dr. Moore returned to the meeting.)
Public hearing regarding an application for funds from the U. S. Department
of Housing and Urban Development to assist the Albemarle Housing Improvement
Program in rehabilitating existing homes belonging to low and moderate
income families in this same area.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report.
Mr. Easter said that he wants the record to clearly reflect that the
Commission is in no way approving the location of any project discussed at this
public hearing.
Mr. Tom Hill, on behalf of AHIP said that funds for the following are
being applied for:
1. expansion of the existing rehabilitation program;
2. beginning of new housing for those who can't afford single-family ownership,
with those people working at least 750 hours on the construction.
Mr. Easter asked if the self -built policy is realistic.
Mr. Hill replied that it is very realistic on the West Coast, and in an
area where people have something in common ( he cited as an example large numbers
of one particular nationality living together ). He stated that at this time
no sites are envisioned.
Mr. Easter said that it anything of this sort is contemplated by the
County he hopes it will not be located in an area of vast opposition from the
community, as with the Meadows in Crozet. He asked at this point if this program
is the same as the CHIP program in the city.
q('�i
Mr. Hill said that this is the case, and in the city 40 homes per year
are being worked on. He reminded the Commission that this is merely a public
il
hearing necessary to apply for the funds.
0
Mr. Easter felt it is a good idea to get people involved in their own
improvements, as opposed to giving everything away.
There was a long discussion about how the program gets people involved
in a 750 hour work committment, possible ways for upgrading existing housing
inadequacies, this program vs. the FHA housing program.
At the end of the discussion, Col. Washington said that he hopes that the
Board of Supervisors will adopt some mechanism for a public hearing when it comes
to site selection prior to commitment for purchasing an option, etc. He then
moved that the County Planning Commission make this recommendation to the Board.
Mr. Huffman seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
No further comments were made on the preapplication for funding from HUD.
ZMA-78-17. Giannini -
Mr. Huffman moved that this matter be deferred until May 9, 1978, in order
that the applicant could be present. The motion, seconded by Mr. Vest,carried
unanimously, with no discussion.
ZMA-78-04. Rosson -
Mrs. Graves moved that this request be deferred until May 9, 1978, in order
that the applicant could be present. The motion, seconded by Dr. Moore, carried
unanimously, with no discussion.
Wolverly-Midway Site Plan:
Mr. Keeler said that due to the terrain, the applicant is requesting permission
to shorten a cul-de-sac and bring in the units 20-30 feet. He pointed to the
request on the site plan.
Mrs. Graves moved that the Commission accept this request for amendment.
The motion, seconded by Dr. Moore, carried unanimously, with no discussion.
ZMA-78-07. Stuard R. Wood, Jr.
SP-78-23. Stuard R. Wood, Jr.
At the request of the applicant, Mrs. Graves moved that both these items
be accepted for withdrawal without prejudice. Dr. Moore seconded the motion, which
carried unanimously, with no discussion.
`7 eD Z-
Mr. Tucker advised the Commission that the Crozet Land"Committee has
been formed and is Rave its first meeting that night. He said that it will
have the same function as a neighborhood committee.
Mr. Easter stressed that he feels it is important that a staff member
be present at the various land use committee meetings. He also asked that
interested Planning Commission members be present also.
Mr. Tucker asked that any Commission member interested in attending the
Piedmont Land Use Conference notify him in order that he could make the necessary
reservations. This is scheduled for May 15, and May 16, in Warrenton, Virginia.
With no further business, the Commission adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
W. Tucker, Jr. - Sec