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May 8, 1978
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a work session on
SP-78-15 Biscuit Run Associates ( F. Bosley Crowther, III ) on Monday, May 8,
1978, 4:00 p.m., Board Room, County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia.
Those members present were Mr. Peter Easter, Chairman; Col. William Washington,
Vice -Chairman; Mr. Layton McCann; Mr. Kurt Gloeckner; Mrs. Norma A. Diehl;
Mrs. Joan Graves; Dr. James Moore; Mr. James Huffman; Mr. Charles Vest; and
Mr. Tim Lindstrom, ex-Officio. Other officials present were Mr. Robert Tucker,
Director of Planning; Mr. Ronald Keeler, Assistant Director of Planning; and Mr.
Frederick W. Payne, Esquire.
Mr. Easter established that ^quorum was present and called the meeting
to order.
Mr. Keeler stated that the Highway Department is unable to be present
since they had to be in Culpeper that day.
Mr. Easter asked that the staff specifically address the areas of concern
that had been noted at the Commission's previous meeting on SP-78-15.
Mr. Crowther noted for the record that there will be no public sewer
for the 1-3 acres lots.
Mr. Thompson of the Albemarle County Service Authority said that everything
has been straightened out as far as he is concerned.
Mr. Crowther said that options for interim measures until the AWT Plant
is completed will have to be finalized later.
Mr. Keeler read into the record the portion of the staff report addressing
the planned community's effect on the Comprehensive Plan. There were no comments
from the Commission on this particular matter.
Mr. Keeler said that by a vote of 4-1-2, the Albemarle County School Board
has voted to accept the school site as shown on the plan. The staff recommends
that this area not be specifically designated as a school site, though, reserved
for a public area. Mr. Keeler stated that the reason for this recommendation is
that the utility of the property can be better analyzed when more accurate topographic
mapping is available.
Mr. Keeler then reviewed the phasing of the road upgrading in terms of the
phasing of the development, noting the comments from the Highway Department's letter
and staff report on the road situation.
Mr. Crowther told the Commission that he is currently in the process of
reviewing the comments from the Highway Department and a traffic analysis is underway.
Hopefully he will be able to present this analysis for Highway Department review
by the end of the week.
Col. Washington stated that he is not thoroughly convinced that only two
entrances to the project are desirable. He said that he is somewhat interested
in requiring a second entrance onto Route 631.
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Mr. Gloeckner did not necessarily agreed with this, since he felt it
would become a short-cut through a residential area. The current plan protects
the residential area considerably.
Mr. McCann said that he felt a road through the Oak Hill Subdivision
might be the quickest way to Fifth Street and on to the Interstate.
Mr. Tucker pointed out that such a road would disrupt that neighborhood to
some extent. Due to the dedication the applicant is proposing, he.did feel that
the county will have to address this sometime in the future, and particularly
if the site is used for a school site.
Mr. McCann said that he is thinking about cutting the travel time on a
3-4 stretch of bad road.
There was a discussion of the Highway Department proposals, especially
the re-alignments,and what the possible future connections to this project might be.
Mr. Keeler said that it is his understanding that if this project is approved
the upgrading plans will be moved up by the Highway Department.
Mrs. Graves questioned the Fire Official's recommendations for the single-
family area.
Mr. Keeler said that he recommends emergency access to the farm community.
However, he pointed out that the area being recommended by the staff as a public
area might be used for such a use as a volunteer fire department.
Col. Washington felt that since the Comprehensive Plan addresses energy
savings, making people travel an unnecessary 3-4 miles would be giving that item
only "lip service."
Mr. Crowther said that one objective of the development concept is to provide
at least one business in the area for people living there in which to work.
Mr. Keeler at this point reviewed the comments from the Engineering Department.
Mrs. Diehl was concerned about possible low water in certain areas of the
lake, and thus the resulting growth of algae.
Mr. Easter also agreed that this is a concern about the lake.
Mr. Crowther said that he would be better able to respond to that when the
topographic maps are completed.
Mr. Stan Tatum, planner for the project, said that the lake is envisioned
for recreational uses and visual quality, so the concern noted is certainly a matter
of concern for the developer as well.
Col. Washington pointed out that the dam could be so expensive that the lake
won't be feasible.
Mr. Keeler said that a special permit is needed for the dam, as well as
review by the Corps of Engineers.
Mr. Easter asked that the Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority be advised about
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the plans for the dam in order that they can address it in terms of the AWT plant.
Mr. Easter then noted that he understands that one of the major concerns
about the project is the four-laneing of the road.
Mr. McCann said that he wants the Highway Department to be on notice
that traffic will be coming in a 10-year phasing and that he himself can support
only the developer's fair share for road improvements, as opposed to requiring
entire construction by the developer. He felt that the Highway Department has
sufficient notice to make the necessary arrangements for planning road improvements.
Mr. Keeler noted for the record that the plan shows respect for scenic
Route 20.
Dr. Moore questioned if there has been further study on the buildability
of the industrial land shown on the plan. Mr. Tatum replied that it is necessary
to have the topo maps prior to that study.
When questioned by the Commission, Mr. Crowther said that he does not
think the topographic maps will be completed by the next public hearing date.
Mr. Tucker stated that the staff has made recommendations on the industrial
region in terms of slopes.
Mr. Crowther said that he is in agreement with the staff's recommendation.
Col. Washington asked that this be clarified.
Mr. Tucker replied that the condition limits development to slopes that
can be graded. He said that the condition should read: "Industrial sites shall
be limited to existing areas with an average of 10% slope or less...."
Mr. Gloeckner at this point questioned a borrow pit for the dam, suggesting
that some slopes could be leveled in this fashion.
Mr. Easter said that he is aware that in some cases with the proper controls
this is normal.
Mr. Tucker replied that the Comprehensive Plan speaks to saving steep slopes.
Mrs. Diehl questioned the industrial land in that part of the county after
designation of the area in the planned community.
Mr. Keeler said that it is roughly shown as 200 acres on the Comprehensive
Plan, however it might be more or less.
Mr. Tucker clarified that part of the land that was designated in Willoughby
has been removed from the special permit and now is used for James River Supply.
Furthermore, he stated that some of the land shown on the Comprehensive Plan's
map for industrial is impractical, since it is strip residential development.
The map could be amended in the Comprehensive Plan to exchange that proposed industrial
land for what would be approved with this special permit. It would certainly be
a logical substitute.
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Mrs. Diehl also established that what is approved by the Commission in
the preliminary plan will remain the same unless there is an amendment to the
planned community plan.
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Col. Washington said that he wishes to state that if the lake is going
to be built, he feels an additional foot of storage is desirable.
Mr. Crowther questioned the intent of #8 in the conditions of approval,
asking if this addresses front and back yards of individual lots.
Mr. Keeler replied that this can be so stated in that condition, though it
is the intent.
The Commission also noted that condition #4 should be amended to include
approval by federal agencies if the dam does .indeed have to be approved by the
Corps of Engineers.
Mr. Chuck Beegle said that he is a resident across the street from the
proposed development and that he is currently soliciting signatures on a petition
of opposition to the proposal that will be presented at the public hearing on the
16th of May. He said that his concern is the tremendous impact this will have
on the entire historical neighborhood.
Col. Washington said that prior to the 16th he would like in writing a
schedule of the phasing of the development. He said that at the meeting on the
16th he will also be concerned about the industrial area. He asked if included
in the approval of the special permit could be the idea of an industrial park.
He felt that some control measure should be there for future control on what
will happen.
Mr. Tucker stated that as condition #3 reads, it addresses the types of industrial
development that can take place. He pointed out that there is more control on the
industrial area of a PUD than there is with a straight rezoning.
Mr. Lindstrom said that the Board's concern with a straight rezoning is what
led to the recent resolution dealing with industrial park zoning, as opposed to what
can happen in a planned community. He noted that with a planned community there
is a great deal of control from the beginning as well as from the site plan level.
There were no further comments from the Commission and public, and the
meeting adjourned at 5:45 p.m.
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