HomeMy WebLinkAbout06 26 79 PC MinutesJune 26, 1979
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a meeting
on :'uesday June 26, 1979, 7:30 p.m,, Board Room, County Office
Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those menders present
were Col. Washington, Chairman; Mrs. Norma Diehl, Vice -Chairman;
Mr. Layton McCann; Mr. Kurt Gloeckner; Dr. James W. Moore; Mr.
Tames R. Skove; Mr. James L. Huffman; Jr..; Mr. Charles R. Vest;
Firs. Joan Graves. Other officials present were .r. Fred Payne,
Deputy County Attorney; Mr. Ron. Keeler, Assistant Director of
Planning; Miss Mason Caperton, Planner; Mrs. Idette Kimsey,
Planner; Mr. Doug Eckel, Senior Planner; and Mr. aim Lindstrom,
ex-Officio.
Col. Washington called the meeting to order after establishing
that a quorum was present.
The Planning Commission reached a consensus that items K-Q
on the evening's agenda will be considered by the Commission
on *Wednesday, June 27, 1979, 2:00 p.m., Board Room, County
Office Building.
SP-79--28 Flood R. Shif.flett to locate a mobile home on 8+
acres zoned A-1. Property is located on the south side of
Route 649, across the road from the Springfield Subdivision.
Count* Tax Map 32, Parcel 29(0)1, Charlottesville Magisterial
District.
Mr. Douglas Eckel presented the staff report.
Mr. Shifflett stated that his health is bad, and approval
of the mobile home would ease his financial burden.
Col. Washington closed the public hearing.
Mrs. Diehl established that Health Department approval is
included in 11-14-2.
Mr. Skove felt the conditions of approval should include
Provision A-6 under Section 11-14-2.
Mr. Vest stated he felt this was a hardship case.
Mr. Vest moved for approval with staff. recommendations:
1. Compliance with relevant provisions of Section 11-1.4-2
of the Zoning Ordinance, excluding A-6.
2. Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation approval
of commercial entrance.
Mr. Gloeckner seconded the motion.
The vote was 7-1-1 with Mr. Skove dissenting and Mrs. Graves
abstaining.
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ZMA-79-13. Twin Group has petitioned the Board of Supervisors
to rezone 16 acres from A-1 to RPN/RS-1. The property is
located on the southwest side of Route 654, and abuts Colthurst
Farm on the southwest. The property is approximately 2 miles
northwest of Barracks Road Shopping Center. County Tax Map 60,
Parcel 158 (part thereof). Jack Jouett Magisterial District.
Miss Mason Caperton presented the staff report.
Miss Caperton also presented a letter from Montvue Citizens
Association, and noted Virginia Department of Highways and
Transportation comments.
Mrs. Graves established that 25% open space is provided.
Mrs. Diehl could find no notice posted near the entrance,
and thus had difficulty ascertaining exactly which property
is involved.
Miss Caperton showed Mr. Skove the open space proposed by
the applicant.
Mr. Fred Payne explained how open spare could be used for
septic fields.
Max Evans explained the plan, and stated he felt the slopes
adequately provided for septic fields and could later
provide for fire hydrants. Most of the hardwood trees could
be retained. One existing residence will later use private
roads.
Col. Washington questioned if the septic fields will be necessary
in open space.
Max Evans stated he prefers that flexibility.
Mr. Holden read his letter stating that the density is too
great, the plan does not follow the character ofAarea; the
open space will not be that usable. He asked that the
Planning Commission be guided in their decision by the existing
character of the area.
Carol Murrad was concerned about this development and the
traffic it will put on Barracks Road.
Mr. Tom McEachern questioned the deed of development.
Max Evans said the property is optioned on approval of the plan
by the County.
Mr. McEachern questioned if this would be limited to one
dwelling per lot.
Max Evans replied yes. He pointed out that the Virginia
Department of Highways and Transportation determined proposed
entrance is safe and density is in accordance with the area.
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He noted it is also in kringe of urban area; he felt the
density is low -moderate, and thus it does not overextend
the capability of the land.
One gentleman questioned the size of the smallest lot.
Mr. Evans stated there are twelve lots, 40,000 square feet
in area.
Charlotte Humphris stated she didn't understand the sewer
situation and noted problems in Hessian Hills and Old Forge
Road area. She felt development should be on the sewer
system, which ends at Old Salem Apartments. Mrs. Humphris
wanted to make sure that the public does not have to bear
the expense of sewer for a private developer; furthermore,
she felt this RPN has insufficient open space. She felt this
would set a precedent for higher density all the way to Ivy
Creek. Objected to higher density pointing out the Comp-
rehensive Plan designates this area for something comparable
to existing RS-1.
There was no further comment from the public.
Col. Washington closed the public hearing.
Mrs. Diehl thought there would be problems with some of the
slope areas, and would like more comprehensive conditions
concerning the area of slopes.
Mr. Evans stated the Soil Conservation Service said the soil
is good, and pointed to area where soil samples were taken.
Health Department approval is still required at time of
location of each septic field.
Miss Caperton stated that a lot -by -lot soil study test will
have to be done.
Mrs. Graves stated she was concerned with more septic fields
within the urban area. They are temporary measure, according
to the Health Department. The neighborhood committee did
discuss the lot size for the area as one acre. Then she
established that 12 units include the one house existing there.
Mrs. Diehl questioned the cost of bringing sewer to the
property.
Mr. Evans said it is prohibitive in cost for only the small
portion of the property which could use it.
Mr. Keeler noted that the Planning Commission did not bring
sewer to Stillfield Subdivision, ordinance says sewer and
water will be required only if reasonably available.
Mrs. Diehl was having trouble seeing this as a cohesive
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RPN unit - open space is the sata ller buffer and € l-ie gu l leys .
Mr. Skcve agreed, noting it does meet technical requirements.
Mrs. Diehl stated she felt it looked like a typical sub-
division.
Mr. Gloeckner established that it would be exempt from
the run, -off control ordinance.
Mrs. Diehl stated that she would like to review the soil
study prior to seeing the final plat.
Mr. Layton McCann stated that he didn't particularly want
to see the soil study„ as he felt the Health Department
would cover the soil situation. He agreed with the Comprehensive
Plan and the new ordinance. Mr. McCann felt that the sewer
would bring higher density. iie moved to approve with 13 conditions
Mrs. Diehl stated she would like a condition #14 to read
"Soil study prior to final plat review by Planning Commission."
Mr. McCann withdrew his motion, stating that he sees no need
for soil study at this time.
Mrs. Diehl moved for approval subject to the following
conditions:
1. Approval is for a maximum of 12 lots. Location and
acreage of land uses shall comply with the approved plan.
Open space shall be dedicated in accordance with the number
of lots: approved in the final subdivision process;
2. Acreage approved for open space shall not include roads;
3. No grading shall occur until the final subdivision process;
4. Compliance with Soil Erosion Ordinance;
5. Health Department approval of two septic field locations
on each lot;
6. County Attorney approval of Homeowner's Agreements
prior to final subdivision approval to include the use of
open space for septic facilities, and for private road maintenance
agreements;
7. Fire Official approval of hydrant locations, prior to
final subdivision approval;
8. All. lots shall have access only on the interior road;
9. Coui,ty Engineer approval of road plans prior to sub --
division approval;
10. Virginia Departments of Highway and Transportation
approval of commercial entrance and improvements to Route 654
prior to final subdivision approval, according to letter of
June 6, 1979;
11. No buildings shall be constructed on slopes of. 25% or
greater and appropriate changes made on the plan for
building site locations;
12. Only those areas where a structure, utilities, road or
other improvement approved in a final plan are to be
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located shall be disturbed; all other land shall remain
in its natural state;
13. All units shall be served by a public water supply
system and approved by appropriate agencies prior to final
subdivision approval;
14. Soil study prior to final plat review by the Planning
Commission.
Mr. Skove seconded the motion, and stated that public sewer
would mean higher density.
Discussion:
Mr. Huffman and Mr. McCann voiced opposition to condition
#14.
The vote was unanimous.
ZMA-79-18. James M. Maupin has petitioned the Board of
Supervisors to rezone 73.4 acres from A-1 Agriculture to
RPN/RS-1. Property is located on the north side of Route
691 and south of Route 1206, southwest of Crozet. County
Tax Map 55, Parcel 65. White Hall Magisterial District.
Mr. Max Evans, representing the applicant, explained the.
features of the plan, stating the lot size would be 40,000
square feet; there are existing lakes. The plan is to
develop in phases. The soil is good in this area and the
slopes are gently rolling. Mr. Evans explained there would
be no through traffic because it lessens the liveability.
Col. Washington stated he felt the traffic would go via
Rt. 684 as opposed to Rt. 691. He also noted the blind
intersection and narrow road. He felt that the entire
project should have one road from Rt. 691 for health and
safety reasons.
Mr. Gloeckner suggested one access from Rt. 691 with
cul-de-sacs and a dam for the lake with private road over
it.
Col. Washington stated that the green space should truly
maintain trees and act as a buffer.
Mr. Evans agreed to a condition addressing trees.
Col. Washington closed the public hearing, since there was
no public comment.
Mrs. Diehl was again having problems seeing this proposal
as an RPN; she felt this is really three autonomous com-
munities.
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Mr. Gloeckner opposed the jump in density from A-1 to RPN/RS-1.
Mrs. Graves stated that she felt the density is too great.
Mr. Gloeckner stated that RPN was to provide for clustering,
not for a jump in density; he did not say anything about this
in review of ZMA-79-13 because of nearness to urban area.
Mr. Evans stated it was on the border for growth area for
Crozet in the Comprehensive Plan.
Col. Washington pointed out that the growth has gone past this
area.
Mr. Huffman moved for approval with the following staff conditions:
1. Approval is for a maximum of 47 lots. Location and acreages
of land uses shall comply with the approved plat. Open space
shall be dedicated in accordance with the number of lots approved
in the final subdivision process.
2. No grading shall occur until final subdivision process.
3. Compliance with Soil Erosion and Runoff Control Ordinance;
4. County Attorney approval of Homeowners' Agreements prior to
final subdivision approval to include the use of open space for
septic facilities and for private road maintenance agreements;
5. Health Department approval of two septic field locations on
each parcel prior to final subdivision approval;
6. Fire Official approval of hydrant locations;
7. Only those areas where a structure, utilities, road or
other improvement in a final plan are to be located shall be
disturbed; all other land shall remain in its natural state;
8. All units are to be served by a public water supply system
and approved by the appropriate agencies prior to final sub-
division approval;
9. Compliance with the private road ordinance prior to final
subdivision approval including County Engineer approval of road
plans;
10. Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation approval
of entrances on Routes 691 and 684, and frontage improvements;
prior to final subdivision approval, in accordance with letter
of June 6, 1979.
Mr. McCann seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mrs. Diehl stated the plan does not show an integrated unit.
In the past this has been grounds for denial.
Mrs. Graves agreed, and noted the application in the Shadwell
area.
Mr. Gloeckner stated he could not support the request because
of the density jump.
The vote was 4-0-5 with Mrs. Graves, Mrs. Diehl, Mr. Gloeckner,
Dr. Moore, and Col. Washington dissenting.
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Col. Washington stated he could support the plan with a single
road.
The Planning Commission took a five minute break.
Buck Mountain,'Cluster, Section 2 Final Plat. Located east
of Route 671, in Buck Mountain Planned Community; proposal
for 9 lots of 1+ acre with 10+ acres in open space. White
Hall Magisterial District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report. She noted that
lot 9B has less than 14,000 square feet and thus may not be
able to get two drainfields on lot.
Mr. Evans noted that these cluster lots were part of the
approved plan. Mr. Evans also noted that the private drives
will have a maintenance agreement. Most of the pines have
fallen and will be removed.
There was no comment from the public, and Col. Washington closed
the public discussion.
Mrs. Graves established that the drain easement is 15'.
Mr. Gloeckner moved for approval with the following staff
conditions:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. Health Department approval of two septic drainfield
sites on each lot;
b. Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation
approval of cul-de-sac access;
C. County Engineer approval of drainage easements;
d. Compliance with the private road provisions of the
subdivision ordinance.
Mrs. Diehl seconded the motion, which carried unanimously,
with no discussion.
Eugenia Adams Final Plat. Located on east side of Route 677
South of Route 676; proposed division of one 23 acre parcel
ice,: leaving 53+ acres residue. Samuel Miller District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Danny Graff, representing the applicant, noted that Mrs. Adams
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was giving this to her son-in-law, and this is therefore a
family division.
Mr. Gloeckner moved for approval with the following staff
conditions:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
have been met:
a. Compliance with the private road agreement, including:
1. County Engineer approval of road;
2. County Attorney maintenance agreement approval;
b. Waiver of 18-36D as it relates to the residue.
Mr. Vest seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, with
no discussion.
A. P. Williams Final Plat. Located on the north side of Route
618, east of Route 729 near Fluvanna County; proposed division
of two parcels of 5 acres each. Scottsville District.
Mr. Fred Payne disqualified himself from the discussion by
leaving the room.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Mr. Morris ,Mated the reason the plat is before the Commission
is the pipestem and the reverse driveway to the back parcel.
Col. Washington established that adequate dedication has
been made.
There was no public comment, and Col. Washington closed the
public discussion.
Mr. Vest moved for approval with the following staff conditions:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. Owner's signature notarized;
b. Health Department approval.
Mr. McCann seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mrs. Gravies stated she was not sure that the Virginia Department
of Highways and Transportation vehicle count is correct.
The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Fred Payne returned to the meeting.
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Meriwether Hills Section V - Final Plat. Located on east
side of Route 678 adjacent to Leeds Lane in Meriwether Hills;
proposed division of six parcels with an average size of 1+
acre. Samuel Miller District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff. report.
Mr. Gloeckner stated that a vicinity map was needed on the plat.
Mr. Forloines did not object to condition 1-A as long as it is
within reason. He said he did not intend to upgrade the County's
water system.
Mr. Keeler stated that the Fire Official does not intend to
require anything but a hydrant. Nothing will be required over
the existing 4" line.
There was no public comment, and Col. Washington closed the
public discussion.
Mrs. Graves objected to changing condition 1-A. She noted the
cost of upgrading the water system for fire protection as
proposed by E. E. Thompson. Mrs. Graves stated that she did
not want to tie the hands of the Fire Official.
Mr. Gloeckner moved for approval with the following staff conditions:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. Fire official approval of location of firs: hydrants;
b. Health Department approval;
c. Grading permit;
d. Runoff control permit;
e. County Engineer approval of road plans for state
secondary roads and drainage easements for all of
Leeds Lane _ i.e. from its intersection with Lewis
Street to the end of the cul-de-sac;
f. Albemarle County Service Authority approval of water
line plans;
g. All title owners' signatures notarized;
h. Upgrade Leeds Lane from Section 11, Meriwether hills
to state standards in accordance with proffer con-
ditions of ZMA-79-04;
i. Note on plat vicinity map.
Mr. Vest seconded the motion.
The vote was 8-0-1, with Mrs. Graves dissenting.
Thurston, Section 1, Final Plat; Located on the east side
of Route 810, north of Crozet, plat showing a temporary turn-
around. on lot 31 of the Thurston Subdivision. White HaIl District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
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Caleb Stowe wan present cn behalf- of the applicar,�-.
There was no public comment and Col. Washington cic,s(-'d the
public, discission.
Mr. McCanr r-,oved for approval with the following staff conditions:
1. This plat- will not be signed until the following condition
is T.et:
a. Post; a bond adequate to restore the property in the
cul—de--sac which is in lots to a c� ightly condition.
Mrs. Graves seconded the %,ic.)tion, which carried unanimously, with
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Tuft Sales - John Deere Site Plan. Located on east side of
Route 29 North, just north of Route 649, proposed site roy
farm equipment merchandise, sales, and service. Rivanna
District.
Mrs. Idett-e KiTrsey presented the staff report.
Dr. Moore as that. Route 649 was improved with a
turnlane.
Mr. Huffman stated that the utilities kept it fion, being a
through lane.
Mr. Puryear stated that the petiL.:.oner will need access from
Route 29. 1"he applicant will have to provide a decel lane on
Route 29.
The Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation future
plans support the proposal here.
Mr. Sinclair felt access from Rt. 649 is too far away and
could be a hazard when trying to determine where the access
to property is when traveling Route 29.
Mr. Puryear stated it was critical to the contract purchaser
to have access from Route 29. John Deer will not approve
the franchise if access from Rt. 649.
Mr. Gloeckner stated that the Planning Commission tried to alert
the existing owner to the problem, when subdivided the land; and
now John Deere is being penalized.
Mrs. Graves stated that this plan assumes that all traffic is
coming from the south, and that she would not want to sanction
u-turns on Route 29.
Mr. Keeler stated that he feels this business has a lot of
impulse buying.
Mr. Skove again reminded Mr. Puryear of the terms of the
subdivision plat.
Mr. Keeler stated that the Virginia Department of Highways
and Transportation said it would not approve access from Rt.
29 for the Ford Site Plan. Mr. Keeler pointed out that the
Virginia Department of. Highways and Transportation had only
to give access from one state road; in this case there are
two state roads.
Mr. Puryear stated that the acreage does not have frontage on
Route 649.
Mr. Gloeckner stated that they were really talking about
another subdivision.
Mr. Keeler agreed with Mr. Gloeckner.
Col. Washington closed the public discussion.
Mrs. Graves stated she could support this site plan.
Dr. Moore moved for denial, and stated he thought the sub-
division plat was fixed so there was no access to Route 29.
Mrs. Graves seconded the motion.
Mr. Payne stated that the Planning Commission needed to state
what will make the site plan acceptable.
Dr. Moore stated that the site plan will be acceptable if
it has access to Route 649 only.
The vote for denial was unanimous.
Saddlewood Farm. Located on north side of Route 618, east of
Route 729 near Fluvanna County; proposed division of two
parcels of 5 acres each. Scottsville District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Mr. Gibbs stated he had no objection to conditions. Mr. Gibbs
said that the sliver of land extends out into the lake, so the
parcel has frontage on the lake.
Mr. Gloeckner questioned the spike at back.
Mr. Gibbs then questioned the meaning of condition B(2).
Mr. Payne explained that new lots can be added to existing
maintenance agreement, if it is adequate. Otherwise, plat will
be denied on the basis it can't meet the conditions of approval.
Mrs. Diehl moved for approval with staff conditions.
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1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
have been met:
a. Health Department approval;
b. Compliance with the private road ordinance, including:
1. County Engineer approval of road;
2. Maintenance agreement for all logs served by this
easement to be approved by the County Attorney;
c. All, title owners' signatures notarized.
Mr. Vest seconded the motion, which carried unanimously with
no discussion.
David Beach/Westfield Road Final Plat, Parcel 5A-2: Located on
west side of Westfield Road, south of Commonwealth Drive; plat
showing the division of one parcel of 16,633 square feet.
Charlottesville District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Mr. Beach and Mr. Sinclair were present.
Mr. Sinclair said that the lot will be used as a parking lot.
Mr. McCann moved for approval with one condition:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following condition
is met:
a. All. title owners' signatures notarized.
Mr. Gloeckner seconded the motion.
The vote was 8-0--1, with Mrs. Graves dissenting.
David. Beachy(T7estfield Road Final Plat, Parcel 5A-3 through 5A-5.
Located on the west side of Westfield Road, south of Common --
wealth Drive; plat showing the division of one parcel into
three. Charlottesville, District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Mr. Keeler said that condition 1-A is not a firm recommendation
of the staff, that it is a recommendation of the Virginia Depart-
ment of Highways and Transportation.
Mr. Sinclair stated that he felt: this would be detrimental to
the property value and could create problems for the owner in
the future, for example, a problem of simple maintenance of
the joint easement.
Mrs. Graves stated that she supported the recommendation of
the Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation.
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Mr. Gloeckner agreed with Mr. Sinclair that this is strictly
a business street. He was not strongly in favor of shared
entrances in this case.
Mrs. Graves moved for approval with staff conditions:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. All title owners' signatures notarized.
b. Lot 5A-4 share an entrance with either lot 5 or 3,
in order to cut down curb cuts;
Mr. Moore seconded the motion.
The vote was 4-0-5 with Mr. Skove, Dr. Moore, Mrs. Graves,
and Mrs. Diehl supporting the motion.
Mr. Gloeckner moved for approval subject to the following
condition:
1. This plat will not be signed until the following condition
i s me t;
a. All title owners' signatures notarized.
Mr. McCann seconded the motion.
The vote was 6-0-3 with Dr. Moore, Mrs. Graves and Mr. Skove
dissenting.
_Auburn Hills, Section Two Final Plat: Located south of Route
732 and east of Route 53; proposal for lots 6-8 and 21-31 can
Jumping Branch Lane. Rivanna District.
Mrs. Idette Kimsey presented the staff report.
Mr. Keeler stated that the road name may have to be changed.
Mr. Tom Sinclair, on behalf of the applicant, objected to
condition 1 (b) as proposed by the staff.
Mr. Keeler stated that this has been covered by a bond since
1976 and the staff would like the road in the state system
prior to any new construction.
Mr. Gloeckner stated that condition 1(b) was fair in view of
the circumstances.
Mrs. Graves suggested that Health Department approval be a
condition of approval.
Mrs. Diehl moved for approval with the following conditions:
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1. Vl�is plat will not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. Engineering Department approval of road plans for
acceptance into state secondary road system and
drainage easements;
b. Prior to signing Auburn Hills Section II, Auburn Drive
shall be constructed to state standards and maintenance
bond posted;
c. Owners' signature notarized;
d. A construction bond posted for Jumping Branch Lane;
e. Rename Jumping Branch Lane;
f. Health Department approval;
Mrs. Graver seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS:
Col. Washington discussed his meeting with Mr. Fisher, who
expressed concern that the Board would receive the Zoning
Ordinance at election time. Mr. Fisher, in that meeting, had
asked for a schedule of public hearings on neighborhood plans
and on zoning ordinance, and had stated that early August
was a good time for public hearings on -he zoning ordinance
The Planning Commission asked Mr. Keeler to work up a schedule
on neighborhood plans for public hearings.
The meeting adjourned at 11:40 p.m.