HomeMy WebLinkAbout09 25 79 PC MinutesSeptember 25, 1979
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a meeting on
Tuesday, September 25, 1979, 7:30 p.m., County Courthouse, Charlottesville,
Virginia. Those members present were Col. William Washington, Chairman;
Mrs. Norma Diehl, Vice -Chairman; Mr. Layton McCann; Mr. Charles Vest; Mr. Kurt
Gloeckner; Dr. James Moore; Mrs. Joan Graves; Mr. James Huffman; and Mr. James
Skove. Absent was Mr. Tim Lindstrom, ex-Officio. Other officials present were
Mr. Ronald S. Keeler, Assistant Director of Planning; Miss Mason Caperton, Planner;
and Mr. Frederick Payne, Deputy County Attorney.
Col. Washington called the meeting to order after establishing a quorum.
Minutes of September 10, September 17, and August 14 were deferred until
the next week.
ZMA-79-31. Twin Croup has petitioned the Board of Supervisors to
rezone 16 acres from A-1 Agriculture to RPN/RS-1. Property is located
on the southwest side of Route 654, approximately 2 miles northwest of
the Boarracks Road Shopping Center. County Tax Map 60, Parcel 28, portion
of, Jack Jouett Magisterial District.
Miss Caperton presented the staff report.
Mr. Max Evans, the applicant, said that this is basically the same
proposal as the original rezoning request, which was denied by the Board of
Supervisors. However, the density has been reduced from 12 to 10 units for the 16
acres. Mr. Evans pointed to the slopes study and further explained the plan.
He said that the lots will be laid out among the existing hardwood trees. There is
a pine tree buffer from Barracks Road and water is available. He proposed an 8" line
into the property. A soil scientist has studied the soils and gave a good report.
He cited the existing densities of the area. Mr. Evans said that the Comprehensive
Plan calls for 1-4 units per acre in this area.
Mr. Lewis Simons, a Colthurst resident, said that the average lot size in
Colthurst is over two acres since many owners hold more than one lot. He did note
that the Board of Supervisors, in its deliberation of the amendments to the Comprehensive
Plan, has not decided if this property will fall within the Urban Area since the land
is within the watershed of the South Rivanna. He said that he was under the impresssion
that an RPN employs the concept of clustering.
Mr. Don Holden, a resident of Montvue, said that the average lot size in
Montvue is 1.9 acres. The smallest lot is 1.25 acres. He said that the RPN is
an arrangement where part of the land is set aside for common use of the owners.
He said that the greenspace in this plan is virtually the unsellable land - i.e.,
the steep terrain and the swales. He also noted that the Board has made no final
decision on this part of Neighborhood 7.
There was no further public comment and Col. Washington closed the public
hearing.
Mr. Evans siad that his opinion at the previous rezoning consideration
had been that if the density were reduced to 10 units, the Board would look
favorably upon the request. He said that about one-third of the property is in
the watershed and the remainder is not.
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Mrs. Diehl established that the only recreational facility for the
RPN is the pedestrian trail.
Mr. Skove said that he is concerned about the validity of this plan
as a true RPN. Instead, he viewed this as a simple subdivision. Mr. Skove felt
that the existing zoning is valid.
Mr. McCann said that he could support the concept and moved approval
of the rezoning subject to the following conditions:
1. Approval is for a maximum of 10 lots. Location and acreages of land uses shall
comply with the approved plan. Open space shall be dedicated in accordance with
the number of lots approved in the final subdivision process;
2. No grading shall occur until the final subdivision process;
3. Compliance with the Runoff Control and Soil Erosion Ordinances;
4. Health Department approval of two septic field locations for each lot;
5. County Attorney approval of Homeowners' Agreements prior to final subdivision approval;
6. Fire Official approval of hydrant locations, prior to final subdivision approval;
7. All lots shall have access only on the interior road;
8. County Engineer approval of road plans prior to subdivision approval;
9. Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation approval of commercial entrance
and improvements to Route 654 prior to final subdivision approval;
10. No buildings shall be constructed on slopes of 25% or greater;
11. Only those areas where a structure, utilities, road or other improvement approved
in a final plan are to be located shall be disturbed; all other land shall remain
in its natural state;
12. All units shall be served by a public water supply system and approved by
appropriate agencies prior to final subdivision approval.
Mr. Huffman seconded the motion, which carried by a vote of 7-2, with
Mrs. Graves and Mr. Skove dissenting.
ZMA-79-32. S-V Associates and North Rivanna Fifth Land Trust
have petitioned the Board of Supervisors to rezone 173.4 acres
to RPN/R-1: 37.42 acres are currently zoned A-1; 36.04 acres are
currently zoned R-3; 95.98 acres are currently zoned R-1; and 3.96
acres are currently zoned M-1. The property is located on the north
and south sides of Route 606, and northwest of both Camelot and
Route 29 North. County Tax Map 32E, Parcel 1, portion of; and County
Tax Map 20, Parcels 45, and 19, portion of. Rivanna Magisterial
District.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report, noting that the staff has not
been able to review the revised plan since it had only received it late that
afternoon. He said they have not given it even a cursory review.
Mr. Coburn, Assistant Engineer from the Highway Department, said that
Route 606 is unpaved at one point and is listed as non -tolerable. The major
concern is traffic from the site and the fact there are two accesses onto Route 29.
Also he expressed concern with the cul-de-sacs with the plantings.
Mr. Keeler said that the staff report addresses the previously submitted
plan, and prior to making any recommendations, a review of the new plan would be
necessary.
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Mr. Wendell Wood, on behalf of the applicants, said that he has met
with the Camelot citizens several times during the last thirty days. He said
the project is intended to provide housing for newly married people, in the more
moderate price range. Everytime something is added to the plan, the cost of the
units goes up. The site has public water and sewer available. The zoning is
there and Route 29 North is the best road in the county. He said that the main
concern of the Camelot residents had been to have single-family units on St. Ives
and Camelot Drives. That has been accomplished with the new plan. He said that he
is agreeable to maintaining the R-1 zoning along these two streets, as well. He said
that the ordinances of the county don't provide for this housing type and this
plan is for single-family attached units. The densities by right would be much
higher.
Mr. Bob McKee said that this property is near the industrial park and
General Electric plants, and it is anticipated that this will provide housing
for many of the employees of those two areas. He explained the technical points
of the plan. The roadways are primarily along the ridge lines. In Mr. McKee's
opinion, the plan satisfactorily addressed the concerns of the Highway Department.
He showed the plan for single-family units along Camelot Drive. He said that the
applicant is agreeable to all conditions recommended by the staff.
Mr. Steven Carter said that the residents of Camelot were clearly
unaware of the latest proposal; as late as Sunday night they had talked to Mr. Wood.
Mr. Bob Warner, representing most of the homeowners of Camelot, said that he
is not aware of the new proposal. He read the contents of a petition, with
114 signatures, opposing the rezoning. He said that they feel this proposal
is an increase in density.
Ms. Melinda Combs was concerned about the appearance of duplexes. She
said that there is the possibility the open space will not be maintained. All
the residents of Camelot like nice yards.
Mr. Rob Jordan expressed concern that the proposal is not compatible to
existing zoning. He asked that the Commission support only what is a continuity
of the existing. He complimented the staff on its preparation and presentation.
Mr. Keith Hamill said that thirty homes from Camelot are represented,
and oppose the proposal.
There was no additional public comment, and Col. Washington closed the
public hearing.
Mr. Wood said that there will be twenty-six feet between the units,
which is six feet more than between the houses in Camelot. He once again pointed
out that he can build apartments by right.
Mrs. Deihl felt that the staff should review the revised plan prior
to Commission discussion.
Mr. Skove said that he favors amending the Comprehensive Plan to reflect
growth for the Camelot area. He felt that this proposal would be ultimately desirable.
Mr. Gloeckner felt that the proposed rezoning and the amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan should be reviewed by the Commission simultaneously.
Mr. Huffman established that the General Electric plant was not considered
in the Comprehensive Plan since it came later. He felt it is important to amend
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the plan to reflect that industry and provide housing for residents and
workers there.
Mrs. Graves asked that the new plan go back through site review.
The school site is an addition to the plan which should be included in a proper
resolution, and the sewer plans should likewise be resolved.
Mr. McCann felt that the Camelot area should be included in the Comprehensive
Plan as another community.
Mr. Keeler said that the staff sees no need for the plan to go through
the technical committee again. He said that prior to the Board of Supervisors
meeting, the School Board would need to review the proposed location for the school.
He asked that the Commission members contact him if they had specific questions
or concerns about the plan.
Mr. Skove moved that further discussion and action be deferred until
October 30, 1979.
Mrs. Graves seconded the motion, which carried unanimously, with
no further discussion.
Col. Washington stated that all items except Le Beau Sol Preliminary
Plat and the Birckhead Guest Cottage Site Plan would be considered by the
Commission on September 27, 1979, at 2:00 p.m. in the Board Room of the
County Office Building. The Commission unanimously voted on this suggestion.
Le Beau Sol Preliminary Plat - located between the intersection
of Routes 637 and 750 near Nelson County.
Miss Caperton presented the staff report.
Mr. Roger Willetts, representing some of the neighborhood landowners,
presented a petition of 94 signature in opposition to the proposed plat. He said
that he sees no need or benefit for this type of development in the area of the
farmland. Stockton Creek runs through this area and he expressed concern about
the effect of the septic fields on the stream. He said that the subdivision is
potential problem for runoff and pollution to that area.
Mr. Ronnie Roberts, Chairman of the Board of Supervisors of Nelson County,
pointed to the road conditions. He said that this road is not in Nelson County's
6-Year Road Plan and said that Nelson County maintains 4200 feet of this route.
Col. Washington established that the maintenance is under a reciprocal
agreement.
Mr. Walter Fitz, who lives opposite the property, said that area currently
has no utility lines and this subdivision will ruin some of the rural ambience.
Also he felt the road will'be impassable in bad weather, as it has been in the
past few weeks because of rain.
Col. Washington closed the public discussion.
Mr. Peter Naoroz, applicant, explained there will be no utility lines.
Mr. Skove said that he had attempted to view the site, and after the heavy
rains on Saturday, Route 637 had been almost washed out. However, Route 750 was
all right.
Mrs. Diehl questioned if additional traffic would make the road non -tolerable.
Miss Caperton replied that it probably would, in view of the width of the road,
however she could not be certain.
Mr. Skove said there is no way two cars can pass on Route 637, much
less a school bus.
Mrs. Diehl then established that Route 750 will remain tolerable with
the increase traffic.
Mr. Vest said that he does not think Route 637 is much worse than some
other county roads where development is permitted.
Mrs. Diehl suggested a private road system. She also noted that the
additional vehicle trips per day will more than double the traffic count on the
road at present.
Miss Caperton said that there is a problem with grade for a private road.
Mrs. Graves said there is some land in the county that is unsuitable for
two -acre lots.
Mr. McCann said that if the plat meets the requirements of the subdivision
ordinance, the Commission will have to approve it.
Mr. Skove said that the subdivision would be a danger to public safety
because of the road situation. He could not support the request.
Mr. McCann moved approval of the plat subject to the conditions recommended
by the staff.
Mr. Vest seconded the motion, once again stating that this is not a threat
to the health and safety of the residents.
The motion lost by a vote of 3-5-1, with Col. Washington, Mrs. Diehl,
Dr. Moore, Mr. Skove, and Mrs. Graves dissenting, and Mr. Gloeckner abstaining.
Mr. Skove moved that the Commission deny the preliminary plat because
Route 637 cannot handle the traffic generated by this subdivision, and the subdivision
would pose a threat to the health, safety, and welfare of the general public.
Mrs. Graves seconded the motion.
Mr. Gloeckner questioned if it would be better to defer the plat so
the applicant could rework the plat and not pay another submission fee.
The motion to deny lost by a vote of 3-6, with Mr. Gloeckner, Mr. Vest,
Mrs. Diehl, Mr. McCann, Col. Washington, and Mr. Huffman dissenting.
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Mr. Gloeckner moved deferral of the plat in order for the applicant
to rework the plat to address the concerns of the staff, public, and Planning
Commission.
Mrs. Diehl seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
Mr. Peter Naoroz said that he has met the conditions for preliminary
plat approval and asked the Commission to guide him in his redraft of the plat.
The Commission asked that he work on rearrangement of the lots for
a private road, that he consider the possible road improvements to Route 637 to
address the safety issue.
Birckhead Guest Cottage Site Plan - located off the south side of
Carrsbrook Drive, east of Indian Springs Road:
Miss Caperton presented the staff report.
Mr. Birckhead said that he has complied with the technical requirements
and agreed to the other recommended conditions.
Mr. David Cook presented a petition of 97 signatures from residents
of Carrsbrook opposing the site plan.
Mr. Rolf Benzinger was concerned about changing the character of the
neighborhood.
Mr. Gene Baker opposed the site plan because of the safety situation -
he said that the bend in the road is dangerous.
road.
Ms. Christine Rapoochi expressed concern about the safety factor of the
Col. Washington closed the public discussion.
Mr. Birckhead said it is 60 feet from the curve toward Route 29 that
he proposes the entrance.
Dr. Moore stated that in previous years, Mr. Birckhead was the biggest
opponent of applications just like his own. Safety on this road is a real problem.
Mr. McCann suggested an entrance from Indian Spring Road only.
Mr. Birckhead said that topography would be a problem.
Mr. Gloeckner expressed concern for three septic fields on a little
less than two acres.
Miss Caperton advised the Commission that Health Department approval
has been received.
Mr. Gloeckner suggested two septic fields per unit.
Mr. Payne said that could be made a condition of approval, if the
Commission so wishes.
Mr. Gloeckner said that part of the area is uphill and part of it is in
the lake - he was concerned where an additional field would go if one fails.
Mr. McCann felt that it meets the requirements of the ordinance, and
stated that it is unfortunate that this is even before the Commission for
consideration. He moved approval subject to the following conditions:
1. A building permit will not be issued until the following conditions have been
met:
a. Albemarle County Service Authority approval of water plans for the
new cottage;
b. Only those areas where a structure, utilities, driveway, or other
improvement is located shall be disturbed; all other land shall remain
in its natural state;
C. Access to the cottage shall be from Indian Spring Road only;
d. Health Department approval of alternate septic field.
Mr. Huffman seconded the motion.
Discussion: Dr. Moore felt that based on the character of the lot,
two septic fields should be mentioned.
The motion carried by a vote of 7-2, with Dr. Moore and Mr. Gloeckner
dissenting.
There was no further business, and the meeting adjourned at 11:10 p.m.
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