HomeMy WebLinkAbout08 20 85 PC MinutesAugust 20, 1985
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing
on Tuesday, August 20, 1985, Meeting Room 7, County Office
Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present
were: Mr. David Bowerman, Chairman; Mr. Richard Cogan,
Vice -Chairman; Mr. Harry Wilkerson; Mr. James Skove and Ms.
Norma Diehl. Other officials present were: Mr. Ronald
Keeler, Chief of Planning; Ms. Amelia Patterson, Planner;
and Ms. Patricia Cooke, Ex-Officio. Absent: Mr. Frederick
Payne, Deputy County Attorney; Mr. Tim Michel; Mr. Richard
Gould.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. after
establishing that a quorum was present.
The minutes of the August 6, 1985 meeting were approved as
written.
Taylors Auto Body Shop Revised Site Plan - Approval of the
landscape plan by the Planning Commission. Property, located
on the east side of Brookway Drive, off the west side of Rio
Road and adjacent to Meadowcreek. Tax Map 61, parcel 168D
and 168E. Rivanna Magisterial District.
Ms. Patterson gave the staff report. She presented some
photographs of the site. She added that it is difficult
to review the screening at this time and asked that staff
be allowed to determine the location of plantings after
the leaves have fallen. She suggested that this be made
a condition for the certificate of occupancy so as not to hold
up the building permit. Regarding lighting, she stated no
lighting proposal was shown on the plan, but the required
note stating that lighting will be directed away from adjacent
properties is on the plan. She confirmed that staff is
satisfied with the types of trees and the number of trees
proposed, but wishes to reserve judgment on the placement
of these plantings until Fall so as to better determine
where they will be most effective.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
Ms. Taylor, representing her husband, addressed the Commission.
She stated their only concern was that it would be difficult
to plant the trees at this time because of the dense foliage.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. Garrett, a neighboring property owner, addressed the
Commission. He was concerned that the wooded area be
preserved and questioned the proposed location for the
white pines. He also expressed concern about the lighting
and the hours of operation.
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Ms. Diehl indicated she was in favor of staff's suggestion
that the location of the plantings be determined after the
leaves have fallen. She added that the white pines would
offer more effective screening if they are planted closer
to the building. She also suggested that a condition be
added stating that the wooded area would remain substantially
as shown on the plat to insure that the large hardwoods
would not be removed.
It was determined the following condition could be added:
• No live tree removal beyond grading limit shown on
site plan
It was determined the applicant will erect a fence around his
property, thus preventing a neighboring business from parking
on his lot.
Ms. Diehl moved that the Taylors Auto Body Shop Revised Site
Plan be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. A certificate of occupancy will not be issued until
the following conditions have been met:
a. No parking on lot six may overhang the access
drive;
b. Pavement marking and signage to direct one-way
travel on access drive;
C. Planning staff approval of landscape plan.
2. No live tree removal beyond grading limit shown on
site plan.
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Mr. Keeler added that the applicant, in a letter of April 22,
states that the hours of operation will be 7:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
and that there will be no all-night lights brighter than
existing street lights. He advised that the applicant should
meet with staff and the Zoning Administrator regarding the
type of lighting to be used so as to avoid "corrective
measures" being required at a later time.
Montdomaine Winery Temporary Office Trailer Public Tasting Area -
Proposal to locate a temporary office trailer to serve as public
tasting area for a period of 24 months. Property, located on
a private road off the north side of Rt. 720, off the west side
of Rt. 20, ±0.5 mile south of Carter's Bridge. Tax Map 112,
parcel 18F. Scottsville Magisterial District.
Ms. Patterson gave the staff report.
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It was determined the size of the trailer was 14' x 60' (not
5'), though the plan had shown it as 14' x 60".
Ms. Patterson explained this review is for the site plan for
the public tasting area; the farm winery does not require
a site plan. She further explained the Director of Planning
has authority to approve a public tasting area, but because
this will be a mobile office (trailer), it requires review
by the Commission.
The applicant explained that only a portion of the trailer
will be used as a tasting area with most of the space being
used for offices. He stated the area for tasting would be
14' x 21' (294 sq. ft.), which will require three parking
spaces.
It was determined the gravelled area could accommodate the
parking requirements.
Mr. Cogan indicated confusion as to how the discrepancy in
the size will affect the application, particularly since the
staff report stated that "Structures, including vehicles, shall
not exceed 600 square feet in aggregate floor area."
Ms. Patterson stated she did not feel there is a problem.
However, if the area does exceed 600 square feet then the
applicant must apply for a special use permit.
Mr. Cogan stated it does not matter how the trailer is
broken down, i.e. how much is for office and how much for
tasting, the single structure is over 600 square feet.
Mr. Keeler stated it is the area that is devoted to that
particular use. He explained that the use can be within a
larger structure, but the area that can be used for that
particular use is limited. He compared the issue to
"home occupation."
Mr. Cogan indicated he was satisfied with staff's explanation.
It was pointed out this is an office trailer as opposed to
a residential trailer --it has no kitchen.
Mr. Keeler explained there is no provision in the ordinance
for this but the Commission has historically approved such
uses in order to accommodate applicants' time schedules
with a time limit placed on the use.
It was determined the issue is before the Commission solely
because the structure is a mobile unit.
Mr. Keeler stated that if the applicant were to build a
structure with these dimensions Commission approval would
not be required since it could be approved administratively.
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The Chairman invited applicant comment.
The applicant emphasized that the structure is a mobile office
and not a mobile home.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Mr. Skove moved that the Montdomaine Winery Temporary Office
Trailer Public Tasting Area be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. A building permit will not be issued until the following
conditions have been met:
a. Health Department approval;
b. Zoning Administrator approval of compliance with
Section 5.6.2 of the Zoning Ordinance.
2. This approval is for a period of 24 months. This approval
does not include "Future expansion" area designated
on plan.
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion.
Ms. Diehl again indicated confusion and Mr. Keeler explained that
it is not the use that is being approved, but the structure.
The previously stated motion for approval was unanimously approved.
SP-85-52 Virginia Land Trust (C.W. Hurt) - Request in accordance
with Section 22.2.2.1 of the Zoning Ordinance to allow for the
construction of a bicycle racing track for boys and girls ages
5 years and older. Property, located behind Riverbend
Shopping Center on Pantops Mountina. Tax Map 79, parcel 17E.
Zoned, C-1, Commercial. Acreage of site is two acres. Rivanna
Magisterial District.
Mr. Keeler gave the staff report. He added that parking for the
use would be provided at the shogAng center. He stated the
applicant is proposing that the track will only be used Saturday
and Sunday.
Mr. Wilkerson asked if insurance coverage was for weekend use
only, or would it include the entire week.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Larry Lippencott, representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission. He explained the insurance, through the American
Bicycle Association, is just for racedays. However, he stated
he would not be opposed to providing liability coverage for
the remainder of the week. He stated the track may be used
for teaching and practice sessions on Wednesday nights (as
daylight permits). He stated all races will be operated and
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sanctioned by the ABA. Use of the track will be limited only
to ABA members. He stated the track is strictly for non -
motorized bikes and because of its size and design does not
invite usage by motorized vehicles.
Mr. Wilkerson explained he was concerned about the possibility
of small children using the track, unsupervised, and the
danger in crossing Rt. 250.
Mr. Lippencott stated the track is relatively hidden from
view and did not think this would present a problem. He stated
he would be glad to post No Trespassing signs.
The Chairman invited public comment.
The following citizens addressed the Commission and stated they
were in favor of the proposal: Mr. Glen Sanford and Ms. Lauren
Howard.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Mr. Bowerman stated the applicant had addressed his concern
in relation to motorized vehicle usage.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-85-52 for Virginia Land Trust
(C.W. Hurt) be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. No motorized vehicles.
2. Use to be limited as outlined under "Applicant's
Proposal;"
3. County Engineer approval of improvements to floodplain
in accordance with 30.3 Flood Hazard Overlay District.
Mr. Skove seconded the motion.
It was determined a fourth condition should be added as follows:
4. Signs posted: "No motorized vehicles allowed."
Mr. Wilkerson amended his motion to include this addition and
Mr. Skove seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
(Mr. Bowerman excused himself from the meeting for the next two
items due to a conflict.)
SP-85-53 Tom J. Curtis - Request in accordance with Section
10.5.2 of the Zoning Ordinance to allow the subdivision of 37
single family residential lots, minimum lot size of 21-2 acres,
average lot size is 7.68 acres. Property, described as Tax Map
80, part of parcels 61, 8, 60A, 62, 70, 31, 8Z, and on Tax Map
94, parcel 42. Total acreage of site is 284.11 acres, zoned RA,
Rural Areas. Rivanna Magisterial District. Property, located
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on the south side of Rt. 616 at I-64 interchange and adjacent to
existing golf course.
Mr. Keeler gave the staff report. He pointed out that the applicant
is proposing the same number of lots as permitted by right, but
since a change of lot size is proposed, a special use permit is
required.
Mr. Cogan, acting as chairman in Mr. Bowerman's absence, invited
applicant comment.
Mr. Roudabush, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission.
He explained the proposal using the drawing and. offered the following
comments:
--37 additional lots are proposed.
--The access to the subdivision would be just off of I64
on Rt. 616 with a new subdivision street connected
with a cul-de-sac where the state maintenance will
end and then connection to the existing private
road would be made. Two other state -maintained
roads with cul-de-sacs will be constructed.
An existing right-of-way which has been designated
would be abolished and a connection made with a
private road.
--Two large 30 acre tracts would have no new streets
constructed to serve them but would use existing
right-of-ways as driveways.
--No increase in density is proposed.
--Soil tests made on the properties east of Carroll Creek
have shown that the soil is generally acceptable for
septic tank. No percolation tests have been made.
--Water will be obtained from two recently drilled wells
which preliminary tests have shown get 60 gpm. An
existing permit for a central water system to provide
service to 30 lots will be amended (if this proposal
is approved) to include the 26 existing lots that the
applicant owns in the existing subdivision, plus the
7 additional new lots west of Carroll Creek.
--The owners of the existing 26 lots will be required
to participate in the road maintenance agreement which
now exists for the maintenance of the private roads
in the existing subdivision.
In response to Mr. Cogan's question as to why the lot sizes have
been changed, Mr. Roudabush explained the sizes have been changed
to create a more consistent pattern and better geometric layout.
It was determined some of the lots on Rt. 616 have double frontage
and will require a waiver.
The Chairman invited public comment.
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Mr. Gorden Wheeler addressed the Commission. He stated he had
`✓ lived in the area for 30 years and is president of the
homeowners group, with special responsibility for maintaining
the road. He indicated there have been many problems with
keeping the road maintained. He stated he, and his neighbors,
are opposed to the state road connecting with their private
road since this will greatly increase the traffic on their
private road, thus increasing their maintenance costs. He
felt this was the main objection that most of the neighboring
homeowners have to this plan.
Mr. Bill Bailey addressed the Commission. He indicated he
felt the financial support that would come from the addition
of the new lots would be advantageous to the maintenance of
the roads.
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Mr. Pedar/addressed the Commission and indicated he too was
opposed to the new development using the private roads. He
pointed out that these people would be using the road without
having to contribute to its upkeep. He indicated he was
in favor of restrictions being placed on the two existing
wells which serve the clubhouse.
Ms. Pat Schuler addressed the Commission and expressed
concern about the water situation.
Mr. Hans Reinwald addressed the Commission and also expressed
concern about the water supply.
Mr. William Orr asked if each lot would be for single-family
dwelling only. It was confirmed the current zoning would
allow only single-family development. It was also determined
there are no development rights for the two 30 acre parcels.
Mr. Cogan asked how the residents of 26 of the lots would
get to the clubhouse if the public road was not connected to
the private road. Mr. Roudabush explained they would take
Rt. 616 to Rt. 731 or Rt. 22.
The Chairman invited additional comments from Mr. Curtis,
the applicant.
Mr. Curtis offered the following comments:
--It was felt an internal use of this property was more
feasible for family use than an. external use would
have been.
--The new 37 lots will be obligated to join in with the
existing private road maintenance agreement, thus making
more revenue for their upkeep.
Mr. Little asked for clarification as to the planned usage for
the two existing wells at the clubhouse .
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Mr. Curtis stated the use of the central well system will
minimize the use of the existing wells. He stated he was
willing to proffer limiting the use of the existing clubhouse
wells to no more than is currently being used.
Mr. Wheeler questioned the enforceability of Mr. Curtis'
proposal to require the owners of the new lots to participate
in the private road maintenance agreement.
Mr. Laney Moore, a neighboring property owner and member of
the Keswick Volunteer Fire Department pointed out that if
the private road is cut off from the public road, the fire
department would not be able to reach the new homes
efficiently. He also stated cutting off the private road
would eliminate the fire department's access to two ponds
which it uses for water.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Mr. Cogan asked Mr. Bain (in the absence of Mr. Payne) to
explain how residents on a state road could be required to
participate in the maintenance of a private road.
Mr. Bain stated this would be part of restrictive covenants
and also that the Commission could make that a condition if
it so chooses. He stated that has been the applicant's
intent from the beginning, i.e. that they be required to help
maintain all the private roads that currently exist since they
will be using the roads. He stated that this could probably
be done at the subdivision stage.
Mr. Keeler stated that one option which has not been discussed
is to make the road a public one in its entirety. He added
that staff is reluctant to recommend mixing residential and
commercial uses on a private road because of maintenance
problems, and cost inequities. He also stated that the
ordinance discourages situations where a private road connects
to two separate public roads for these same reasons.
Ms. Diehl asked if a public road could be required on the segment
between the clubhouse and the new division. Mr. Keeler responded
this would be possible only if the property owners along that
road would dedicate the needed right-of-way.
Mr. Keeler explained further that the next item on the agenda
(an expansion of the clubhouse facilities) might require that
that section of road be upgraded to state road standards anyway.
Separate from the road issue, it was the consensus of the
Commission that the application met the criteria for a special
use permit. It was determined the road issue would be dealt
with at the time of subdivision.
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Mr. Skove moved that SP-85-53 for Tom J. Curtis be recommended
to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following
conditions:
1. Prior to any subdivision plat review by the Planning
Commission the applicant shall obtain the following:
a. Virginia Department of Health approval of two septic
drainfield locations on each proposed lot;
b. County Engineer review of pump tests for two wells in
southeastern portion of property in accordance with the
requirements of the Code of Albemarle County;
2. Prior to subdivision plat review by the Planning Commission
for lots southeast of Carroll's Creek the applicant shall
obtain the following:
a. County Engineer approval of construction activity in
the flood plain of Carroll's Creek in accordance with
30.3 FLOOD HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICT of the Zoning
Ordinance;
b. County Engineer approval of public and private road plans
to provide connector road from Club Drive to Rt. 616;
3. All lots northwest of Carroll Creek shall be served by a
central water system supplied by the two wells located in
the southeast portion of the property or such alternative
well locations as may be approved by the Board of
Supervisors;
4. Development shall be in general accord with the preliminary
plan submitted as a part of this petition and marked "Planning
Commission; August 20, 1985" and initialled "RSK."
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion.
The Commission pointed out to the applicant that the Commission
has great concern regarding the roads and their maintenance
which will be addressed at the time of subdivision.
The above -stated motion for approval was unanimously approved
and scheduled to be heard by the Board of Supervisors on
September 4, 1985.
SP-85-54 Tom J. Curtis - Request in accordance with Section
10.5.2 of the Zoning Ordinance to allow six guest rooms in two
existing cottages and thirty-six guest suites in a new structure
adjacent to the clubhouse. Property, described as Tax Map 80,
parcels 8, 8Z. Existing zoning RA, Rural Areas. Total acreage
of site is 24.395 acres. Property, located on the east side
of Rt. 744 at the intersection with Rt. 731.
Mr. Keeler gave the staff report.
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Mr. Keeler pointed out that staff's condition 3. requires the
clubhouse to use the central well system; however, if the
applicant wishes to continue using the existing wells at
the clubhouse, and the Commission allows this, then the
condition needs to be amended to accommodate the continued
use of the existing wells.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Roudabush addressed the Commission. He stated all that is
being added as the result of this application is the addition
of 36 guest suites. The other facilities have been in existence
for some time. He added that if an additional sewage disposal
system is required (in the event septic fields cannot be located),
it will serve only the club and not the residential lots.
Regarding the continued use of the two existing wells, Mr. Curtis,
the applicant, stated the wells would be used no more than they
are being used at the moment, with the primary use being to fill
the pools, which occurs only once a year. He emphasized that he
was not offering to cap all wells and cease using them, but
rather that their usage will not increase to greater than it
is now.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. Wheeler again addressed the Commission and stated most
residents do not object to the traffic that will be generated
by the six existing units, but they do object to the additional
36 units because of the increased traffic and road problems.
Mr. Pedar Little, speaking on behalf of Mr. Kupke, asked that
the existing wells be capped since filling of the pool has been
shown to adversely affect his well. Mr. Little stated he did
not feel it would be a hardship on the applicant to fill the
pools from the central well system. Regarding the roads, Mr.
Little stated he would be in favor of staff's suggestion that
the road be a state one in its entirety, rather than half
state roads and half private roads.
Mr. Hans Reinwald again addressed the Commission and stated
he was opposed to the idea of capping the wells since his well is
on the same vein as the wells in question. He also indicated
he was in favor of the additional 36 units since extended usage
of the club would ensure that it is well maintained.
Mr. Curtis, the applicant, addressed the Commission and stated
the addition to the facilities is needed to provide the revenue
required for the restoration of the clubhouse, etc. Regarding
the road, Mr. Curtis stated that he was amenable to bringing
the roads up to the standard that will be required to meet
the traffic volume that the development will generate.
The being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
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The Chairman invited comment from Mr. Echols, representing the
Highway Department.
Mr. Echols stated that the possibility of having a private
road come off of a cul-de-sac is not a desirable situation.
(He explained that all state roads must end in a cul-de-sac
so that vehicles can turn around.) Regarding the issue of
the private road becoming a state road, he stated the
biggest problem would be upgrading the road and widening it.
Mr. Keeler pointed out that this type of use (comparing it
to rural inns) usually has very low traffic generation. He
indicated traffic would be influenced by the seasons (e.g.
golfing season).
In response to Mr. Cogan's inquiry, Mr. Echols explained that
a state road either must end in a cul-de-sac or tie into two
existing state,roads. He said it is feasible that the road
could be a state road since it could tie into Rt. 731 and Rt. 616.
It was determined the following should be added at the end
of condition 3.:
• ...usage of existing wells at the clubhouse will not
exceed present usage.
Ms. Cooke indicated she would make the Commission's desires,
regarding the usage of the existing wells,known to the Board
of Supervisors.
Regarding the location of the proposed 36 new guest units
in relation to existing dwellings, Mr. Curtis stated he will
use the closest existing home as a measuring point and
will not place any new structures closer to residences
than what currently exists. He pointed out, however, that
the new units must be located so as to create a consistent
pattern with the clubhouse facilities.
It was determined the following should be added at the end
of condition l.:
...location of 36 additional suites will be no closer
to existing private dwellings than the current clubhouse.
Mr. Keeler stated this is approximately 600 feet.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the road should
be a state road in its entirety.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-85-54 for Tom J. Curtis be recommended to
the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following
conditions:
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1. Expansion limited to renovation of six (6) existing suites
in the clubhouse, six (6) guest rooms in two existing cottages,
and establishment of thirty-six (36) additional suites; location
of 36 additional suites will be no closer to existing private
dwellings than current clubhouse.
2. Prior to Planning Commission review of the site plan the
applicant shall obtain the following:
a. Health Department approval of method of sewage disposal;
b. County Engineer review of pump tests for two wells in
southeastern portion of property in accordance with the
requirements of the Code of Albemarle County.
3. All clubhouse facilities shall be served by a central well
system supplied by the two wells located in vicinity of the
Rt. 616/I-64 interchange or such alternative well locations as
may be approved by the Board of Supervisors; usage of existing
wells at the clubhouse will not exceed present usage.
4. Bonding and/or construction of the connector road from Club
Drive to Rt. 616 and the central well system shall be required
prior to issuance of building permit for the new guest rooms/
suites; provided that the six existing suites in the clubhouse
may be renovated without compliance with this condition;
5. Compliance with the following conditions of approval of
SP-78-76 Piedmont Vineyards, Inc.:
a. Hours of operation are limited to sunrise until 11:00
p.m. for golf pro shop, swimming pools and tennis courts
and all other outdoor recreational activity. All indoor
activities, dining, special parties, etc., to end at
1:00 a.m.;
b. All buildings to be subject to Building Code and Fire
Code Inspections;
C. No outdoor public address system including amplified
phonographs, radios, and the like and including musical
groups employing amplified instruments shall exceed
40 decibels at the nearest property line; this condition
is subject to restrictions of condition A for outdoor
uses;
d. No off premises licensed sale of alcoholic beverages to
be permitted.
Ms. Diehl seconded the motion which was unanimously approved and
scheduled to be heard by the Board of Supervisors on September 4,
1985.
The meeting recessed at 10:00; reconvened at 10:15 p.m.
Mr. Bowerman returned to the meeting.
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Mr. Bowerman asked Mr. Keeler to bring the Commission up to date
on the action of the Board and the MPO in relation to Rt. 29N.
Mr. Keeler presented a report on the traffic needs in the 29N
area which included comments from the County Engineer and
resolutions adopted by both the Board of Supervisors and the
MPO Technical Committee. (Copies of this report and both
resolutions are filed with these minutes.) Regarding the
County Engineer's recommendations in relation to the SPCA Road,
Mr. Keeler stated he felt special engineering will be required
to improve that road so as not to affect the reservoir. He
added that in its present condition, it cannot support any
substantial residential development, even though properties
fronting on this road are zoned R-6 or higher density.
ZMA-85-17 Dr. Charles W. Hurt - Request to rezone a total of
19.309 acres from R-6, Residential to HC, Highway Commercial,
comprised of part of parcels 109 and 108A on Tax Map 45.
Charlottesville Magisterial District. Property, located on
the west side of Rt. 29 North, southbound lane, adjacent to
Rivanna Amoco Service Station.
The Chairman questioned whether this item should be heard since
the applicant was not present. He stated the usual policy is
to defer an item one time if the applicant is absent, and
`A✓ recalled that this item had already been deferred once at the
request of the applicant.
Mr. Keeler stated that the first request for deferral had been
the result of a consensus between the applicant and staff.
The Chairman questioned what action could be taken even if
the applicant were present in view of the actions taken by
the Board and the MPO as just reported by Mr. Keeler. He
stated it seems a review of the Comprehensive Plan may be
undertaken to review this area with the possibility of changing
it to a lower development standard. He asked if the applica-
tion should be reviewed under the current Comp Plan recommendations,
or should anything along 29N even be considered.
Mr. Skove stated he was not in favor of doing anything at this
time which would change the land use in that area to a point
which would make later changes more difficult.
In response to Ms. Diehl's question as to whether or not this
proposed development would tie in with a 6-lane highway, Mr.
Skove stated that even a 6-lane highway with grade -separated
interchanges will not come close to meeting future demands,
and some of the interchanges will still have an E or F service
level at certain times of the day. Mr. Echols confirmed
this.
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Regarding Mr. Keeler's statement that the Board had taken no
action on the County Engineer's recommendations, Mr. Bowerman
asked Ms. Cooke to comment.
Ms. Cooke stated the comments had been discussed, but there is
no money to do anything more than what has already been proposed,
i.e. 6-lane highway, within the next 30-40 years. She stated
that she had realized, after attending the last MPO meeting,
what a futile attempt all these studies are in view of the
fact that there will be no money available. She stated also
that the current money that is available has a time limit on
it and if it is not in use by a certain date, it will revert
to some other project. She emphasized that no work of any
kind, including engineering studies, has been done in over a
year in relation to the 6-laning of 29N. When the Board became
aware of this, they decided to give some direction to the MPO,
thus the adoption of the resolution presented by Mr. Keeler.
Mr. Bowerman stated the 6-lane plan is the one that was
dGcided on several years ago.
Mr. Skove confirmed this. He added the dilemma faced by the
MPO is the possibility that to go ahead with the 6-lane
project will preclude any other solutions later because they
are incompatible.
Ms. Cooke added "Except at such time as the Eastern Bypass
becomes a reality... and the Meadowcreek Parkway would also
be some relief for 29N." She did not agree with Mr. Skove
that 6-laning 29N at this time would preclude later solutions.
She added that it could not be allowed to remain as it is for
the next 40 years.
Mr. Skove stated the basic issue is that land use has to
be changed on 29N, or else there will be a hopeless situation.
Ms. Cooke stated the Board also feels it is also necessary
to come to an understanding with our neighboring northern
counties, Greene County and Madison County, regarding
their plans for development on 29N. She added that she
feels the 29N problem is a local issue and should be addressed
as such. She also felt that TSM measures must be employed
and cooperation must be encouraged with the University of
Virginia.
Mr. Bowerman stated the issue before the Commission at this
time is not only the current application (ZMA-85-17) but also
other parcels along 29N and whether any action should be
taken on such proposals until a re-examination of the Comp
Plan has been made and it is determined what levels of density
should be allowed along 29N. He questioned whether the
Commission can take such a position, i.e. to not review
applications along this area. He suggested there might
be situations where some "tradeoffs" could be made in terms
of development of an infrastructure within the site which
could relieve some of the traffic problems along 29.
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Mr. Skove pointed out this is going to be a big change, i.e.
saying "no" to development along 29N and "yes" to development
in other areas.
Ms. Diehl stated that not only the 29N area is involved since
as more development is amassed around the area, more and more
roads are going to have unacceptable service levels. She
stated this involves all the planning around roads that are
probably never going to be built.
Mr. Skove agreed and added that one road which is undercapacity
and needs to be utilized more is I-64. I.e., development should
be in areas that have easy access to I-64.
Mr. Cogan stated the question remains how to deal with current
applications in view of the fact that a review of the
Comprehensive Plan is anticipated. Regarding the current
application, he felt there would be justification for denial since
the current Comp Plan says there is already more than enough
commercial zoning in that area. However, he indicated there
will be other situations where it is not so cut and dry.
Ms. Diehl stated she felt the Commission needed legal counsel
as to its options in terms of reviewing applications along
Rt. 29N in the interim.
Mr. Bowerman agreed and stated the questions to be answered are:
(1) Do the applications have to be reviewed; (2) Does the
current Comp Plan have to be used as the base; and any other
guidelines.
Mr. Cogan stated the Commission must be mindful of denying
an application which may be in accordance with current
requirements, based on the possibility of the requirements
changing later.
Mr. Keeler stated that in the past developers have based their
plans on the Comprehensive Plan to the point where "wholesale"
changes in the Plan may not be that easy to make. He stated
utilities have been put in place in anticipation of development
called for in the Plan and this will have to be considered
also. He stated he felt the cooperation and contributions that
have come from developers should not be overlooked. He pointed
out that from the city limits to Rio Road three -fourths of
the 6-lane highway is virtually complete as a result of
development. He stated the Board's statement "to reevaluate
the recommendations for increased densities in the Route 29
North corridor on lands which have not yet actually been zoned
for higher density" means to him that the Board is not going
to downzone existing properties, but rather consider changing
the Plan to avoid upzoning properties. He stated the extent
of the Board's commitment at this time is to look at the
Comprehensive Plan, but not to start changing zoning.
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Ms. Cooke confirmed Mr. Keeler's interpretation was correct. 400
Regarding the current application, Mr.Keeler stated it appears
the developers are prepared to take some of the measures
recommended by the County Engineer. Mr. Keeler explained what
the applicant is proposing, in relation to traffic patterns,
using the drawing.
Mr. Bowerman again emphasized that the Commission would like
some guidelines from counsel as to their options. He suggested
it might be possible for some of the property owners to
put together a proposal which would satisfy some of the
county's concerns in relation to limiting access to Rt. 29N and
also limiting development on the property. Specifically, Mr.
Bowerman asked if the Commission can impose a moratorium on
additional rezoning requests or should some be reviewed and not
others, depending on the content, etc.
Mr. Keeler stated that, realistically, once zoning is put
on the map, it will be difficult to take it off.
The Chairman called for a motion on the current application.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that ZMA-85-17 for Dr. Charles Hurt be
indefinitely deferred pending comments from the County Attorney
and further work with the applicant.
Mr. Skove seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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