HomeMy WebLinkAbout09 10 87 PC MinutesSeptember 10, 1987
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Thursday,
September 10, 1987, Meeting Room 7, County Office Building, Charlottesville,
Virginia. Those members present were: Mr. Richard Cogan, Chairman;
Mr. Richard Gould, Vice Chairman; Mr. Harry Wilkerson; Mr. David Bowerman;
Ms. Norma Diehl; Mr. Tim Michel; and Mr. Peter Stark. Other officials
present were: Mr. John Horne, Director of Planning and Community Development;
Mr. Ronald Keeler, Chief of Planning; Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Chief of
Community Development; Mr. David Benish, Planner; Ms. Patricia Nielsson,
Mr. Steve Cresswell, County Engineer; and Mr. George St. John, County
Attorney.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and established that
a quorum was present. The minutes of August 25, 1987 were approved as
submitted.
SP-87-62 Gordon and Sherry Zimmerman - Gordon and Sherry Zimmerman petition
the Board of Supervisors for a special use permit to locate a single wide
mobile home on 2.0 acres, zoned RA, Rural Areas. Property, described as
Tax Map 47, Parcel 33C is located on the north side of Rt. 784, approximately
one mile from its intersection with Rt. 600. Rivanna Magisterial District.
Applicant had requested that the petition be withdrawn without prejudice.
Ms. Diehl moved, seconded by Mr. Bowerman, that SP-87-62 for Gordon and
Sherry Zimmerman be withdrawn without prejudice. The motion passed
unanimously.
Phillips Building Supply Preliminary Site Plan - Proposal to locate a 28,000
square foot building supply sales and storage facility. The total
area of the site is 3.28 acres; the property is zoned HC, Highway
Commercial. Property is located on the south side of Rio Road between the
Daily Progress Newspaper building and the existing Phillips Building
Supply. Tax Map 61, Parcels 1201, 120K, 120R, and 120V. Charlottesville
Magisterial District.
Since the Chairman had been advised that the applicant would again
request deferral, Mr. Zunka, representing the applicant, was asked to
comment briefly,
Mr. Zunka explained that the issue of access to Rio Road was still
unresolved and in light of some new information that has recently been
discovered, the applicant was requesting indefinite deferral to allow
further time for this information to be reviewed.
Since there was no public comment on this application, it was decided
that the staff report need not be read.
Mr. Stark moved, seconded by Mr. Bowerman, that the Phillips Building
Supply Preliminary Site Plan be indefinitely deferred. The motion
passed unanimously.
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Virginia High School League Preliminary Site Plan - Proposal to locate a
4,385 square foot office building to be served by 37 parking spaces. The
total area of the site is 1.92 acres, and is zoned PD-MC, Planned Development -
Mixed Commercial. The property is located on State Farm Boulevard
adjacent to the Commonwealth Clinical Systems office building. Tax
Map 78, Parcel 63. Rivanna Magisterial District.
Mr. Benish gave the staff report.
The primary issue of discussion in this review was the current status
of State Farm Boulevard and its relation to this application. The
staff report stated:
"To date, State Farm Boulevard has not been accepted into the State
highway system. The Planning Commission has instructed the staff
not to schedule for their review any further site plans or
subdivision plats along State Farm Boulevard until the road has
been approved for acceptance into the State system. Since the
Planning Commission has taken this position, the County staff,
VDOT and those responsible for the road construction have
resolved the major issues related to the road design. Substantial
road work has been accomplished and a road bond of $37,100 is being
held to insure its completion. Road plans have been submitted
to VDOT for approval, but have not been approved to date. The
staff is of the opinion that the site could be reviewed and approved
on the condition that a building permit not be issued until the final
road plans are approved by VDOT."
Staff recommended approval subject to conditions.
It was determined that condition 1(d) [VDOT approval of road plans
for State Farm Boulevard.] required that road plans be approved,
but it was not necessary that the road acceptance into the State
system take place before issuance of the building permit.
Mr. Benish added that the applicant had requested that condition
l(d) be tied to a Certificate of Occupancy rather than a building
permit.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Edward Eichman, representing the applicant, addressed the Commission.
He stressed that the applicant has no direct involvement with the
"pending circumstance" involving the road. He noted that the parties
involved with the road issue are Virginia Land Company (Dr. Hurt),
the County, and VDOT. He stressed that such a condition (ld) would
impact the applicant's building schedule if tied to the building
permit and even if tied to the certificate of occupancy could still
mean that after the building was built it could not be occupied.
He explained that the applicant must advise the University, from whom
it is currently renting space, of a definite time for vacating
its present facilities.
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It was determined the present owner of the property is the Virginia
*41rr High School League who purchased the property from Grant Cosner.
Mr. Eichman pointed out that prior to purchasing the property, the
applicant had met with County officials and representatives of the
Virginia Land Company in an effort to determine if there were any
extenuating circumstances involved with the site. He stated that
the issue regarding State Farm Blvd. did not come to light at that
time.
Mr. Eichman asked for the Commission's consideration since the applicant
is caught in the middle of a situation over which it has no control.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Mr. Stark asked Mr. Keeler to explain the circumstances surrounding the road
issue.
Mr. Keeler explained that State Farm Boulevard was constructed by Dr.
Hurt several years ago at a time when he would construct roads without
approved road plans and then submit them for acceptance into the system.
In this case, some road plans were apparently "semi -approved."
However, after the County performed a traffic count and traffic figures were
arrived at in order to determine the category of the road, it was dis-
covered that the base material which was shown on the plans was not
on the road. The developer was then required to overlay the roadway.
Mr. Keeler stated that this was done after review by the Highway
Department, but, at this time, the County still does not have any
approved road plans on State Farm Boulevard and there is no guarantee,
"unless there is some exercise by the County, that the road is going to
get into the system." Mr. Keeler stated that this has been a continuing
issue for many years and is a critical situation whenever a site plan
comes in. Mr. Keeler stated he was uncertain as to whether or not
VDOT had inspected the road after the overlay was required. He
stressed that the developer has to request that VDOT come and make
an inspection. He added it was his understanding that most of the
construction has been completed and the bond has been substantially
reduced as a result. Mr. Stark asked if the County could not just take
the bond and complete the construction. Mr. Keeler responded, "We cannot
make the Highway Department approve the construction."
Mr. Benish stated that road plans have been submitted for approval to the
Highway Department which are based on the design agreed to by all parties.
So if the design which is shown on the plans is actually what was
constructed, then VDOT "will approve the road plans" and the applicant
must request an inspection of the road so that it can be accepted into
the state system. Mr. Cresswell, representing the County Engineer, added
that some minor corrections were necessary to the originally submitted
plans, and they were then re -submitted. Mr. Cresswell stated he felt
final approval was close.
Mr. Keeler pointed out that staff's condition 1(d) was tied to approved
+ram„ plans and not final acceptance.
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Mr. Keeler added that the Site Plan Ordinance requires that a means of
access be approved to a public road. Mr. Keeler also pointed out
that the Commission took the position that no further plans be reviewed logo
until the road was approved long before this property changed hands.
Mr. Cogan asked if the position taken by the Commission was meant to be
irrespective of ownership of the property along that road, or was it
to be applied to only that property along the road that was in the ownership
of the developer, the person responsible for the construction of the roadway.
He felt that was the key issue.
Mr. Keeler responded: "The answer to that is very simple. If a developer
sells a piece of property and he doesn't own it any longer --so that's not
applicable."
Mr. Bowerman questioned how holding up this applicant would speed the
process of getting the road into the state. system. Mr. Cogan responded
that it would not speed up the process because the applicant has no
recourse against the person involved in the construction of the road.
Mr. Horne pointed out that the developer has been informed that no further
site plans or subdivisions will be approved for property under their
control (along State Farm Blvd.) until the issue has been resolved.
Mr. Cogan stated he felt that was all that could be done. He added that
he was not opposed to the deletion of condition 1(d).
Mr. Wilkerson moved that the Virginia High School League Preliminary Site
Plan be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. A building permit will not be issued until the following conditions are met:
a. County Engineer approval of grading and drainage plans and
calculations;
b. County Engineer approval of Stormwater detention plans and
calculations;
C. Issuance of an erosion control permit;
d. VDOT approval of right-of-way improvements and issuance of a
commercial entrance permit; (NOTE: This condition was amended later
in the meeting.)
e. County Attorney and Planning Staff approval of necessary access
easements on Tax Map 78, Parcel 63;
f. Albemarle County Service Authority final approval;
g. Fire Officer final approval.
Mr. Stark seconded the motion.
Further Discussion:
Referring to condition 1(d) [Originally condition 1(e) in staff report]--
VDOT approval of right-of-way improvements and issuance of a commercial
entrance permit --Mr. Keeler questioned whether VDOT would issue a commercial
entrance permit onto a road for which there were no approved road plans.
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That being the case, Mr. Stark stated that deletion of original condition l(d)
had not accomplished anything.
There was some discussion as to whether or not original condition l(e) should
also be deleted. It was the consensus of the Commission that it could not be
removed.
Mr. Cresswell explained that his office has reviewed the entrance plans with
VDOT and the entrance is acceptable to the Highway Department. However,
if the road still has not been accepted into the state system at the time
the applicant is ready to construct the entrance, then the County will
issue the entrance permit. Mr. Cresswell suggested that condition l(e)
be amended so that approval is required from either VDOT or the County
Engineer, whichever is applicable.
Mr. St. John, in response to Mr. Wilkerson's request for his comment, stated
there was no legal problem in handling the entrance issue "either way."
He suggested that it was possible to require that the entrance be constructed
to VDOT standards.
Mr. Michel asked if both original conditions l(d) and 1(e) were deleted,
would a precedent be set for other property along the road. Mr. St. John
responded affirmatively, but added that this was a "balancing consideration"
on the part of the Commission and was not a legal question.
It was determined original condition l(e) (condition l(d) in Mr. Wilkerson's
motion) would be amended as follows:
new condition 1(d): Commercial entrance improvements to be
constructed to VDOT standards and approved
by County Engineer or VDOT, as applicable.
Mr. Wilkerson agreed to this change in his motion. Mr. Stark agreed also.
There was a brief discussion about stormwater detention. Mr. Benish explained
that the former County Engineer had exempted the site from stormwater detention.
Condition 1(b)--County Engineer approval of stormwater detention plans and
calculations --has been included to allow for additional review should
concerns arise, and to allow the current County Engineer to review the site
again. Mr. Cresswell added that since there are no intermediate properties
between this property and the Rivanna River, and as long as the applicant
provides an adequate channel to convey the stormwater, detention requirements
will not be imposed. He understood this agreement had been made between
Virginia Land Company and Mr. Elrod (the former County Engineer).
Mr. Bowerman asked, "But how is this any different than anything else if
the other parcels between this parcel and the river are not under the same
common ownership now."
Mr. Keeler responded, "It isn't. And it is my recollection (that) Mr.
Elrod (did not) apply that to all properties under Virginia Land Ownership.
It was Pantops Shopping Center. And it was any other properties that
flowed directly to the river where there were no intervening properties.
This lot was created a long time before that decision."
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Mr. Keeler pointed out that the purpose of the Detention Ordinance is
to protect what is between the property that is being developed and
the receiving channel. So if there are properties between the property Ifto
that is being developed and the receiving channel, stormwater detention
ought to apply. He stated that is no purpose in detaining water on
site if the property is located on the river because there are no down-
stream properties to protect.
The Chairman repeated the motion which was on the floor, i.e. approval
subject to conditions of staff with deletion of original condition l(d)
and amendment of original condition 1(e) as previously stated.
It was determined that condition l(b) would address any possible
concerns about stormwater detention.
Mr. Gould stated that though he was not opposed to the proposal being
presented, he felt the Commission was ignoring a guideline in reviewing
this proposal at this time. He felt the matter should not be before
the Commission.
Mr. Michel indicated he understood Mr. Gould's concern, but stated he
was under the impression this property had been sold before the
Commission had set down the guideline referred to by Mr. Gould.
(Mr. Keeler stated, however, that this property was sold after
the Commission had taken the position not to review any additional
proposals for property under the control of Virginia Land Company
until the road issue was finalized. Mr. Keeler pointed out that
there has been a change in circumstance in the fact that Dr. Hurt
has spent a lot of time working on the road, but the problem arises
when the process is not followed through.)
Mr. Horne added that though there are a few properties that have passed
from the hands of Virginia Lane Company, the majority of the property
has not been divided, and staff will not approve any further divisions
of property until the road is completed. He stated that there may be
a limited possibility that a few more lots will show up, they will
be those which have already been created.
Mr. Cogan again pointed out that withholding approval of this application
uDuld in no way put pressure on the responsible party to get the matter
resolved.
Mr. Keeler pointed out that in approving this site plan, the Commission
was "essentially modifying a requirement of the Ordinance because
access to Rt. 250 is not approved."
Referring to condition l(f)--County Attorney and Planning Staff approval of
necessary access easements on Tax Map 78, Parcel 63-- Mr. Bowerman
asked Mr. Eichman to comment. Mr. Eichman explained that the applicant
was to provide access across their site that would permit future access
from Commonwealth Clinical Systems. He confirmed there was no problem
with this easement.
The Chairman called for a vote on the previously stated motion for NINO
approval. The motion passed (6:1) with Mr. Gould casting the dissenting vote.
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Development Activity Report - Mr. Cilimberg, assisted by Ms. Nielsson,
presented this report to the Commission. The report discussed three
major areas: (1) Activity in building permits that were issued during
the year; (2) Subdivision activity that has occurred, including the number
of new lots and the characteristics of those new lots; and (3) Major
site plans that were approved.
The Commission expressed interest in the following additional information:
(1) A breakdown of lot sizes, particularly how many lots created were 21
acres or greater; and (2) How many divisions were by right?
New Business
Westgate Project: Mr. Horne briefly explained that the developer of
Westgate V had done some additional work related to stormwater detention
and as a result had re -submitted a new "concept" for stormwater
detention. The applicant had requested that staff make the Commission
aware of the applicant's concept to determine if the Commission was
interested in considering the idea further. After Mr. Horne
explained the applicant's concept plan, it was determined the
Commission was not interested in considering the proposal further.
Mr. Cogan read a letter of appreciation from Mr. Fred Payne.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
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John Horne, Secretary
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