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MARCH 11, 1997
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday, March
11, 1997, in the County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Jared Loewenstein, Chairman; Mr. William Nitchmann; Ms. Hilda
Lee -Washington; Ms. Babs Huckle; Mr. Bruce Dotson; and Mr. William Finley. Other
officials present were: Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community
Development; Mr. Bill Fritz, Senior Planner; Ms. Elaine Echols, Senior Planner; Mr.
Jack Kelsey, Acting County Engineer; and Mr. Greg Kamptner, Assistant County
Attorney. Absent: Commissioner Tice.
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. and a quorum was established. The
minutes of February 25, 1997, were unanimously approved as amended.
Mr. Cilimberg summarized actions taken at the March 5th Board of Supervisors
meeting.
SP 97-01 The Frost Montessori School - Proposal to establish a pre-school in an
existing building (Broadus Memorial Church), on approximately 5 acres zoned RA,
Rural Areas [10.2.2.7]. Property, described as Tax Map 62, parcel 25C, is located on
the east side of Route 20 approximately 3/4 miles north of the intersection of Route
250 East in the Rivanna Magisterial District. This site is located in a Development
Area (Neighborhood 3) and is designated Neighborhood Density Residential (3-6
dwelling units per acre).
Ms. Echols presented the staff report. Staff recommended approval subject to
conditions.
Ms. Huckle asked if there are plans to construct a fence around the play area. Staff
said no fence is planned. Rt. 20 is some distance away and the children will always
be well supervised.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Ed Bain. He said the applicant has no
concerns about the proposed conditions. He offered to answer Commission
questions. Addressing Ms. Huckle's concern about the lack of a fence, he said the
people who are operating the school are very responsible so he is certain a fence will
be installed if one is needed.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
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%.W. Mr. Kamptner suggested that condition No. 1 include a specific date for the expiration
of the permit. (The applicant expressed no opposition to this suggested amendment
to the condition.)
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MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved, Ms. Washington seconded, that SP 97-01 for The
Frost Montessori School be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval,
subject to the following conditions-
1 - Approval is for the use of a portion of the existing Broadus Memorial Baptist
Church building for a preschool for no more than eighteen children for a period of two
years, expiring June 30, 1999.
2. The supplementary regulations of Section 5.1.6 dealing with day care and nursery
facilities be applied to this special use permit.
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Because the play area is next to a -highway ; Ms. Huckle expressed the hope that a
fence will be installed.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
ZMA 96-26 Forest Lakes Associates - Proposal to rezone approximately 0.2 acres
from R-15, Residential to HC, Highway Commercial. The total site consists of 6.2
acres, of which approximately 6.0 acres is currently zoned HC. Property, described as
Tax Map 46134, Parcels 1 and A2 is located in the southeast corner of the intersection
of Route 29 and Timberwood Blvd in the Rivanna Magisterial District. This site is
located in the Community of Hollymead and is recommended for Community Service.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended approval.
Ms. Huckle asked whether this site would have direct access to the road. Mr. Fritz
explained that this is not a "free-standing" parcel --it is part of the larger piece.
The applicant was represented by Steve Runkle. He addressed Ms. Huckle's question
about access, explaining there will be no direct access to this small part of the
property. He said this piece will most likely be used for parking. He said the part
which is shown as common area will not be built on.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Finley moved, Mr. Dotson seconded, that ZMA 96-26 for Forest Lakes
Associates be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval.
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ZMA 96-25 River Heights Associates Limited - Proposal to amend the existing proffers
of ZMA 95-17 to eliminate the requirement of a connection between the mobile home
sales area on Route 29 and the Forest Springs Mobile Home Park. Property,
described as Tax Map 32, Parcels 43 and 43A, is located on the west side of Route
29 just south of its intersection with Timberwood Blvd. This site is located in the
Community of Hollymead and is recommended for Regional Service.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended denial of the request. The
report explained: "Staff opinion is that elimination of a road connecting the sales
center with the mobile home park would be inconsistent with prior actions and the
Comprehensive Plan."
Ms. Huckle asked Mr. Fritz if it is a requirement of the Ordinance that developments
with more than 50 dwellings must have a second entrance. Mr. Fritz said, "where
practical, staff tries to get a second entrance for developments of more than 50 units."
Though Mr. Fritz said he could not find any statement in previous minutes or staff
reports which said this road would provide for emergency access, Mr. Cilimberg called
attention to the July 13, 1993 minutes (Attachment C to the staff report) and the
statement made by Mr. Wood "that the road could be used as an emergency route in
`*..r the event Rt. 606 was blocked." Mr. Fritz said the concept behind the original
approval had not been related to emergency access, "but the road could clearly serve
that dual purpose." Ms. Huckle pointed out that there will be 100 units in this first
phase of development and she believed these types of dwellings are more fire prone
than stick -built structures. She also pointed out the close proximity to the airport and
the possibility that an accident could block the main entrance to the development.
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In response to Mr. Finley's question about the storage area, Mr. Cilimberg said the
special permit recently approved allows for no more than 2 displayed mobile homes,
visible from Rt. 29, and an area for storage to be completely screened from Rt. 29.
There was no restriction on the number of units which could be in the storage area.
Mr. Cilimberg assumed a certain number of for -sale units would be stored on the lot.
(Mr. Wood later said only models will be stored on the site. Customers will order a
unit which will be delivered directly to the mobile home park. He said very few units
will actually be moved from this site to the park. )
Mr. Dotson asked if this road is a condition of the special permit. Mr. Fritz responded:
"We would require it before the issuance of a CO for the Mobile Home Sales Center."
Mr. Kamptner added: "The requirement is that the road be built by the time of the
establishment of the mobile home sales use. So before the mobile homes sales use
can happen, the road has to be constructed." This request is now asking that that
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requirement be dropped, i.e. the road would no longer be a condition in establishing
the mobile home sales.
The applicant, Mr. Wendall Wood, addressed the Commission. [NOTE: Mr. Wood's
beginning comments are almost inaudible on the tape.] He said he is seeking to
delete the proffer related to the road because the cost of making the road usable by
emergency vehicles is prohibitive ($225,000). He explained it was his original intent to
use this road, which is currently an existing "farm road," for the movement of only a
very few mobile homes to the mobile home park. It was always intended that the use
of the road would be "limited. He estimated the road would be used no more than 15
times (total). He had not realized the County would require him to build a road
which would meet "emergency vehicle standards."
Ms. Huckle said the road could possibly be used for other purposes once this property
is developed in commercial or industrial uses, as it ultimately will be. Mr. Wood
disagreed saying the location of this road, at the end of the property, is such that it
would be of little benefit.
Mr. Finley asked staff about the classification of the road. Mr. Fritz said he was not
certain how it would be classified, other than as an "emergency access road." He said
it does not fall into the private road definition in the Subdivision Ordinance. Mr.
Loewenstein asked staff to explain the differences between secondary road
requirements and emergency access road requirements.
Mr. Jack Kelsey, Acting County Engineer, addressed the Commission. [ NOTE: Some
of Mr. Kelsey's comments were almost inaudible on the tape.] He said there are
several emergency access roads in the County. He gave as an example a road which
serves Lake Reynovia and Mill Creek South. For this road, he said the design was
one which could provide the vertical and horizontal alignment needed to
accommodate an emergency vehicle, but it was not built to secondary road
standards. He said: "I would not require any more than we have done for other
locations." Mr. Cilimberg added that design of the road in question would probably be
driven more by what is needed to accommodate the movement of a mobile home than
by what is needed for an emergency vehicle. He said a mobile home is larger and
wider, and probably weighs more, than does an emergency vehicle. (Later Mr. Wood
disagreed with this statement saying that a fire truck weighs much more than a mobile
home.) Mr. Kelsey said that a mobile home is very long, with the wheels centrally
located, so a very flat vertical alignment will be needed to keep the back of the unit
from dragging.
Mr. Nitchmann, after hearing Mr. Kelsey's comments, summarized: "What you're
saying is that the design of the road is really up to Mr. Wood because we do have
emergency roads which are nothing more than grass lanes ... so it is up to him to
design the road so that the mobile home can travel on it. If the road will
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accommodate a mobile home, we are just going to assume that an emergency vehicle
can also be accommodated. So there are really no more requirements put on this
road because of the fact it was stated that the road could be used for emergency
vehicles."
Mr. Finley asked what would be required for the creek crossing. Mr. Kelsey said it
would probably be a 10-year storm design.
Mr. Wood said he was told, at site review, that he would have to meet the
requirements of a State statute in the construction of an emergency access road.
"That was how this had all come about." After hearing Mr. Kelsey's comments, he
said: "If that is not the case, then that changes the scenario."
Mr. Cilimberg said he was not familiar with a State statute, but staff will check the site
review comments. He added that determinations as to road standards are not made
during site review. Those determinations are made by the Engineering Department.
He said the Fire and Rescue component of site review may have made some
comments about a desirable type of road. He said he felt the Engineering Department
would be aware of any State statute.
Mr. Nitchmann said there are some emergency access roads that are nothing more
than a "path through the woods." He said when he voted on the original rezoning, it
"%NW was his understanding "it was going to be a little more glorified farm lane that the
applicant could move the mobile homes on and (we thought), 'that's great because we
can get a fire truck through there if we need to.' That is the intent I had at the time."
He said requiring the applicant to build a substantial road would add $1,500 to the
price of the lots in the park. He said it had not been his intent that a $225,000 road
be built.
Mr. Wood said he had also understood Mr. Kelsey to say tonight that "there is no
problem to cross the stream." He commented: "You have heard enough requests
from individual owners to cross streams ... and they are not simple issues." He said he
had also understood Mr. Kelsey to say this was "an easy matter." Mr. Wood
commented: "If it's an easy matter, then we'll do it, and if we have to do it I hope that
standard of being no problem to cross the stream (will be the case)."
Mr. Nitchmann suggested that the matter be deferred to allow the applicant to get with
planning and engineering staff to clarify "what is actually needed, because there
seems to be some misunderstanding." Mr. Dotson supported this suggestion.
Having had a chance to quickly review the site review comments, Mr. Cilimberg said
there is a reference to something in the Fire Code which came from the Fire Official
(not Engineering). He said, if the applicant is agreeable, staff can meet with the
applicant, Engineering and the Fire Official to discuss "what is actually necessary."
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lk%W Mr. Cilimberg repeated that he feels the design of the road will be driven by the width
and length of the mobile homes. This will effect the horizontal and vertical design,
and the curvature of the road.
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Mr. Wood wanted the record to be clear that he was not trying to get out of doing
anything that he had agreed to do.
Mr. Wood again explained that it is envisioned that this road will be used no more
than 15 times because units which are ordered by customers will be delivered directly
to the park. They will not come first to the sales facility and then be moved to the
park.
Mr. Loewenstein understood Mr. Wood was saying he would be able to move the
trailers on the road with a minimum of improvement to the road. He asked Mr. Wood
how he plans to deal with the stream crossing. Mr. Wood said he will have to put a
pipe in the stream, but it will not be to secondary road standards.
Ms. Huckle asked Mr. Wood if he had done any research on the potential cost of the
road prior to creation of the proffer. Mr. Wood replied: "I did not anticipate that this
would be a major (road)." He said he felt he would be able to use the road as he has
described with only the removal of some trees, minimal grading, and with the stream
crossing. He was not aware of any "emergency road standards" until site review.
Mr. Nitchmann asked what time of day mobile homes are usually moved. Mr.
Batchelor explained that is regulated by the State. They cannot be on the roads
during the hours schoolbuses are in use, nor on Saturdays or Sundays. A unit 16 feet
wide can only be on the roads between 12 midnight and 4 or 5 a.m.
Mr. Finley said a fire truck would probably use the Rt. 606 entrance because this
property is served by the Earlysville Fire Department. Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that
an emergency access is desirable in the event the main access is blocked. It is not
so that an emergency vehicle will have a choice of entrances. A second access also
serves as an exit route in the event the main access is blocked.
Public comment was invited.
Ms. Lisa Harmon, representing the Earlysville Area Residents' League, addressed the
Commission and expressed opposition to the deletion of the road. It was her
recollection the applicant had introduced the idea of this second access when there
was some question as to whether or not he was going to be able to create a sufficient
turning radius at the Rt. 606 entrance. She expressed concern about the fact that the
cost estimate for the road has come from the applicant; the County has not
performed a cost estimate. Additional concerns were:
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--The County is setting the applicant up to have a monopoly because "only the
homes from his mobile home sales area can be placed in the mobile home park."
--The mobile homes should come through the sales area before being delivered
to the park. She explained that delivery of these units will have a serious impact on
the intersection of Rt. 29 and Airport Road.
--The emergency access road is important not only in its relation to the
emergency service at the park, but it will also serve as an emergency route if Airport
Road is blocked (by the delivery of a mobile home) and the Earlysville Fire
Department is trying to reach a property in the Proffit Road area.
--Proffers are an important part of the rezoning process because they offer the
County and the applicant the opportunity to compromise. Allowing proffers to be
deleted "would seriously undermine the process."
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Mr. Peter Hallick, representing the Piedmont Environmental Council, expressed
opposition to the request. (Their statement is made a part of this record as
Attachment A.)
There being no further comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Finley noted that the rezoning of this property has increased it's value and
therefore increased the applicant's tax payment to the County. Ms. Huckle said the
tax revenue increase is insignificant when weighed against the increased costs to the
`*4mwl County in terms of educational needs for the children of the park's residents.
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Ms. Washington asked if the applicant was agreeable to a deferral. Mr. Wood said he
was agreeable to allow time to meet with staff to clarify the criteria for the road.
Staff was uncertain how long it would take to get everyone together on this issue, but
felt it could probably done within 2 weeks.
MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved, Ms. Washington seconded, that ZMA 96-25 for
River Heights Associates be deferred to March 25,1997.
The motion passed unanimously.
1996 ANNUAL REPORT
Mr. Dotson asked if staff had drawn any conclusions based on the information, e.g.
are any trends or patte.1% indicated? Mr. Cilimberg said the Development Activity
Report and Status of the Plan Report answer the questions raised by Mr. Dotson.
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MOTION: Mr. Finley moved, Mr. Nitchmann seconded, that the 1996 Annual Report
of the Albemarle County Planning Commission be approved. The motion passed
unanimously.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.
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