HomeMy WebLinkAbout01 16 1996 PC MinutesJANUARY 16, 1996
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday,
January 16, 1996, Meeting Room 7, County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia.
Those members present were: Mr. Bill Nitchmann, Chair; Mr. Bruce Dotson, Vice
Chair; Ms. Babs Huckle; Mr. David Tice; and Mr. William Finley. Other officials present
were: Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development; Mr.
David Benish, Chief of Community Development; Mr. John Shepherd, Planner; Mr.
William Fritz, Senior Planner; Mr. Ron Lilley, Senior Planner; Mr. Juan Wade,
Transportation Planner; Mr. Pete Anderson, UVA Representative; and Mr. Greg
Kamptner, Assistant County Attorney.
Mr. Cilimberg, acting as Chair, called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and declared
that a quorum was present.
Election of Officers
Mr. Cilimberg called for nominations for the office of Chair of the Commission. Ms.
Huckle nominated Mr. Nitchmann; Mr. Dotson seconded the nomination. There being
no further nominations and without further discussion, Mr. Nitchmann was unanimously
elected to serve as Chairman of the Commission for 1996.
Mr. Nitchmann called for nominations for the office of Vice Chair. Ms. Huckle
nominated Mr. Dotson; Mr. Nitchmann seconded the nomination. There being no
further nominations and without further discussion, Mr. Dotson was unanimously
elected to serve as Vice Chairman of the Commission for 1996.
Mr. Nitchmann called for nominations for the office of Secretary. Mr. Dotson nominated
Mr. Cilimberg; Ms. Huckle seconded the nomination. There being no further
nominations and without further discussion, Mr. Cilimberg was unanimously elected to
serve as Secretary of the Commission for 1996.
Set Meeting Time, Day, Place for Calendar Year 1996
Ms. Huckle moved that the meeting time, day and place remain the same temporarily,
and that they be discussed again when a full Commission has been appointed. Mr.
Dotson seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Nitchmann asked that Commissioners consider the possibility of changing the
meeting time to 6:00 p.m. He felt this would result in greater citizen participation. Ms.
Huckle said she would not support such a change. It was agreed Mr. Nitchmann's
suggestion would be discussed after a full Commission has been established.
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I�Nw The minutes of the December 12, 1995 meeting were unanimously approved as
amended.
Mr. Cilimberg briefly summarized actions taken at the January 3rd Board of Supervisors
meeting.
CONSENT AGENDA
Adventure Land Site Plan - Request for modification of Zoning Ordinance Sections
21.7.3, to allow grading within 20 feet of adjacent residential property and 4.12.6.3b to
allow increased slope in the parking areas.
and
Hideaway at Keswick Site Plan - Request for modification of Zoning Ordinance
Section 4.12.6.2 to allow one-way circulation.
Mr. Lilley and Mr. Fritz gave very brief staff reports. Staff recommended approval of the
requests for modifications for both site plans.
O Public comment was invited.
Mr. Charles Tractor, a Woodbrook resident, addressed the Commission. He presented
four letters of opposition which bore the signatures of representatives of the
Homeowners' Associations for Woodbrook, Westmoreland, Northfields and Raintree
subdivisions. Mr. Tractor read the statement into the record. A copy of the statement
is made a part of these minutes as Attachment A.
Mr. Fritz said the comments made by Mr. Tractor were similar to those made at
previous hearings for the special permit and the preliminary site plan. Mr. Nitchmann
recalled that the Commission had recommended approval of previous requests for this
project. He said he did not remember there being significant opposition expressed at
the Commission level. Mr. Fritz said more opposition had been presented at the Board
hearings.
Mr. Dotson asked if any of the neighborhoods represented by Mr. Tractor are on the
same side of Rt. 29 as this project. Mr. Fritz replied that all the neighborhoods
mentioned are on the east side of Rt. 29, i.e., the opposite side of 29.
As a former resident of Woodbrook, Mr. Dotson said he is very aware of "how sensitive
the 29 commercial area is" to the Woodbrook residents. He pointed out, however, that
this site is on the opposite side of Rt. 29--probably far enough removed that only very
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, W loud noise may be a concern. He said all approvals have already been granted for the
project and the Commission is only being asked to grant modifications at this time,
modifications which are allowed for in the Ordinance. Given the fact that all approvals
have been granted, he said he felt the modifications requested "make sense."
MOTION: Mr. Dotson moved that both items on the Consent Agenda --Adventure Land
Site Plan modification requests and Hideaway at Keswick Site Plan modification
request --be approved. Mr. Tice seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Ms. Huckle asked staff to explain the meaning of "future activities" which is shown on
the Adventure Land plan. Mr. Fritz explained the original plan noted additional
activities such as outdoor children's play area and picnic area. Uses allowed are
limited by the special permit. The use will have to meet the noise regulations of the
Ordinance.
Ms. Huckle said she had voted against the Adventure Land proposal at previous
hearings, but because it has been approved she said she would support the motion.
The motion for approval of the Consent Agenda items passed unanimously.
SUB-96-112 Garden Gate Farm Preliminary Plat - Proposal to create a nine lot rural
preservation development on approximately 112 acres zoned RA, Rural Areas.
Property, described as Tax Map 99, parcel 66 is located on the east side of Route 712
approximately 0.9 miles north of Route 633 in the Samuel Miller Magisterial District.
This area is not located in a designated growth area (Rural Area 3).
Mr. Shepherd presented the staff report. Staff answers to specific Commission
questions included the following:
--Condition 1(c) requires verification of the 100-year flood plain elevation.
--The stream easement, which is a Water Resources Protection Areas
vegetative buffer, is 100 feet on either side of the water.
--This item does not require Board approval. This action is all that is required for
PRD's of less than 20 lots. A final plat can be administratively approved if it meets the
conditions which are outlined in the preliminary approval.
Referring to a statement in the applicant's letter, Ms. Huckle questioned how this
proposal will have less impact on schools and roads than conventional development if
it will have the same number of lots as could be accomplished by right.
Referring to Attachment C to the staff report, page 1, which states that "Wells and
septic systems will be provided for each lot," Ms. Huckle asked if this means these will
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be provided by the seller. She said this area is known to have ground water
inadequacies and she asked if there was any requirement that the developer must
prove that water is available. (Mr. Shepherd's reply was inaudible.) The issue of water
was discussed later in the hearing.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Earl Whitley. He said he thought the RPD
development would be an asset to the county because it will cluster the lots and will
preserve the mountain. Answers to Commission questions included the following:
--The price range envisioned for the conventional, stick -built homes is around
$165,000. They will be of "country" styling, 1,700 to 1,900 square feet.
--It has already been determined that the lots will perk.
—Regarding the issue of water, he said: "I will have to provide the well." Studies
indicate that water is available on the property, though it may be deep.
Mr. Dotson raised questions about the proposed lot layout which he said appears to
have been engineered so as to have "straight lot lines and long narrow lots," which
results in the stream making parts of some lots unusable. He said it appears the
stream and topography have been ignored in the lot layout. He asked if the applicant
would be willing, before approval of the final plat, to consider redrawing the lots so that
_" M the sowis used as a rear boundary. Mr. Whitley said he wasn't sure he would be
able to meet the requirement for 150 feet of road frontage if the lots were redrawn as
*aw suggested by Mr. Dotson. Mr. Dotson pointed out how the lots might be redrawn so
that the frontage would not be impacted. He suggested that a condition be added to the
effect that "an effort will be made to adjust the lot lines to better to conform to the
topography," and then staff and the applicant could work it out with staff making the
determination that a real effort was made by the applicant to meet Mr. Dotson's
suggestion. Mr. Whitley expressed a willingness to look into the possibility of
redrawing the lines.
Mr. Tice asked if the applicant plans to connect the existing house (the applicant's) by
a road across the dam which will connect to the cul-de-sac. Mr. Whitley said the road
across the dam already exists. Mr. Tice pointed out that one of the objectives of a
Rural Preservation Development is the preservation of agricultural and forestal
activities. He asked if the main road will be available for agriculture and forestry uses.
He was concerned that the types of vehicles used in these activities might be too heavy
to cross the dam. Mr. Whitley said he had no plans for forestal activities on the
property, but he could not control what a future owner might do. He said he had no
intention of eliminating the road across the dam after the new road is constructed. Mr.
Whitley said presently the open land is in hay. He has no animals on the property and
he has no plans for fencing.
Public comment was invited.
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„ Mr. Dan Clements, an adjacent property owner, addressed the Commission and
expressed opposition to the proposal for the following reasons: (1) Impact to his
property; (2) Change to a fertile agricultural valley which is worthy of preservation; and
(3) Personal anti -growth beliefs.
Mr. Steve Clements, an adjacent property owner, addressed the Commission. He
asked why the lots are all at one end of the property. [Mr. Nitchmann later explained
one of the purposes of an RPD is to cluster the lots so as to preserve the agricultural
and forestal land.] He expressed concerns about the possible impact of 8 more wells
on the existing wells in the area and about the possibility of further subdivision of the
property. [Mr. Nitchmann explained the proposal for 8 development lots uses all
development rights and, therefore, the property cannot be further subdivided under the
present Ordinance. Also a "perpetual" Preservation Easement on the remainder of the
property prohibits it from any development (other than the house which already
exists)].
Mr. Dan Clements asked if the property could ever be rezoned. Mr. Kamptner
responded: "The land could always be rezoned. But remember that the 94+ acres
would be subject to this perpetual easement which will preclude any kind of
development regardless of the zoning."
Mr. Bob Watson, representing the Blue Ridge Homebuilders Association, addressed
the Commission. He said he feels this is solely a case of property rights and the
applicant has met all the necessary criteria. He urged the Commission to approve the
request.
There being no further comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Tice asked if staff reviews the terms of the proposed easement. Mr. Cilimberg
replied affirmatively, explaining: "The easements are subject to not only the approval
and signature of the County, but also of the Recreational Facilities Authority, which was
created expressly to co -hold the easement with the County. It is at that level, normally,
that details are worked out, if, in fact, the applicant were considering forestry activities
on the property. That would be addressed by the RFA as part of the easement."
Ms. Huckle said the proposal does not meet all the criteria for an RPD because it is not
preserving agriculture given the fact that the houses will be built on the prime soils.
Mr. Dotson said he very much supports the RPD concept and he supports this
application. He said he would favor, however, a stipulation that the lot lines will be
adjusted to better conform to the topography.
MOTION: Mr. Dotson moved, Mr. Finley seconded, that the Garden Farm Preliminary
Plat be approved subject to the following conditions:
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1. The final plat shall not be submitted for signature nor shall it be signed until the
following conditions are met:
a. Virginia Department of Transportation approval of final drainage plans and
calculations.
b. Virginia Department of Transportation approval of road plans.
c. Albemarle County Engineering approval of final road plans and drainage
calculations. This will include a verification of the 100 year floodplain elevation for the
pond and perennial stream.
d. Albemarle County Engineering approval of final grading and drainage plan.
e. Albemarle County Engineering approval of soil erosion plan.
f. Water Resources Manager approval of a Water Quality Impact Assessment
for any disturbances of the WRPA buffers.
g. Health Department approval of primary and reserve drainfield locations for
each lot.
h. Staff and Recreation Facilities Authority approval of rural preservation
easement for the preservation tract.
i. Staff approval of documents that create the Homeowner's Association,
Covenants and Restrictions.
j. Staff approval of road names.
k. If the deeded right of way for Second Green Hill Farm Land Trust is not
abandoned, state its width and show a 25' setback from the right of way.
I. Final plat must be at a scale of 1" = 100'.
2. Final plat to adjust lot lines so as to better conform to topography so that stream is
used as rear boundary line, with staff to make the judgment as to when the applicant
has done everything possible to meet this condition. [NOTE: Mr. Dotson later clarified
that it was the intent of his motion that if it is found the applicant cannot redraw the lot
lines as suggested, the approval is still valid.]
Discussion:
Noting that the applicant stated he was going to drill the wells, Ms. Huckle wanted a
condition to be added which would require the applicant to drill wells.
Mr. Nitchmann disagreed, saying he did not think the Commission had the authority to
make such a requirement. He pointed out that a property owner will not build a home
before determining that water is available on the property. (Ms. Huckle disagreed,
saying "A lot of people do.") Mr. Nitchmann asked the County Attorney to comment on
Ms. Huckle's suggestion.
Mr. Kamptner replied: "From what I have heard from the County Attorney and from Mr.
Cilimberg, we have ordinarily not imposed that type of condition at this stage of the
VOW process."
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Mr. Finley asked if the Commission, in approval of a subdivision, has any purview over
the impact to the water table and existing wells. Ms. Huckle responded: "State law
says you can have as much water as you can take out of the ground, even if you take it
all." [There was no other response to Mr. Finley's question.]
The motion for approval passed (4:1) with Commissioner Huckle casting the dissenting
vote.
WORK SESSION - Six -Year Secondary Road Plan
Mr. Benish presented the staff report. It explained that VDOT submitted an updated
Six -Year Secondary Road Plan based on the County's current priority list. VDOT
recommended the following changes:
(1) To combine the County -wide Sign, Pipe, and Seed funds (priority #1) with
the County -wide Plant Mix funds (priority #2); and
(2) Lowering the priority for two unpaved road projects, Routes 711 and 760 in
North Garden. Staff supported both these changes.
Except for the VDOT recommended changes, staff was recommending that no major
changes be made to the project priorities in the Plan this year based on the ongoing
update and anticipated adoption of the Comprehensive Plan and the Charlottesville
Area Transportation Study (CATS). Staff was also making the following
recommendations:
(1) Continued participation in the Revenue Sharing Program to the maximum
extent feasible; and
(2) Additional funds be allocated to the County -wide projects (priority #1) to
expedite the completion of the projects. (This recommendation was also recommended
by VDOT.)
(3) That the Commission and Board use this opportunity to review the County's
policy on unpaved roads. Staff was recommending that the Board reaffirm, by
resolution, the existing road paving policy and re -affirm the Board's desire to require
full donation/dedication of right-of-way in order to use unpaved road funds for paving
projects.
[NOTE: Later in the meeting, Mr. Benish distributed a new priority list which reflected
the recommendations described above. He pointed out one error --Item #27 (Advance
Mills Road) was on this new list, but had been wrongly omitted from the Attachment A
list.]
Staff proposed that the Commission recommend approval to the Board of (1) The
VDOT Draft Secondary System Construction Program (included as Attachment B of the
staff report) with the combination of the two Count -wide projects (priorities #1 and #3
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into one project (to be prioritized as #1); and (2) The re -affirmation of the existing
unpaved roads policy.
Mr. Nitchmann wondered why Rts. 711 and 760 in North Garden were proposed for
lower priority, given the issue of schoolbus safety. Mr. Benish said part of the reason
was because of public sentiment. Ms. Angela Tucker, a VDOT representative, said the
shifting of priority had been based on the need to emphasize the need to donate right-
of-way. She said neither 711, 712 nor 760 in North Garden had all available right-of-
way donated, to date. However, Rt. 712 was not shifted because it was high in the plan
and right-of-way donation is currently being discussed with all property owners and is
close to being accomplished.
There was a brief discussion of the plans for the Rt. 250 corridor. Mr. Nitchmann asked
when improvements to the Rt. 250 East/Keswick Road intersection are envisioned. Ms.
Tucker estimated one year. Mr. Nitchmann expressed the hope that something could
be done to improve the Rt. 250/Rt. 729 intersection.
Mr. Nitchmann invited Ms. Tucker to address the Commission at some future time (late
February or early March) on the policies of VDOT in relationship to the transportation
problems in Albemarle County.
,vW Mr. Finley asked staff to comment on item #11, on Attachment G (Rt. 667 from its
intersection with Rt. 665 to its intersection with Rt. 776). He asked why 776 was the
terminus of this project, and not Rt. 601. Ms. Tucker said the terminus was based upon
"the intersection of two state routes providing a termini for that project." She said it is
possible this could be two back-to-back, or consecutive projects, i.e. 665 to 776 and
776 to 601. Mr. Finley said school buses travel on both sections and there are
treacherous areas. Ms. Tucker said: "It's placement in this priority list lends itself well
to looking at that for a potential addition." Mr. Finley said he thinks there is dedicated
right-of-way, all the way, on both sides. Mr. Finley said it seems VDOT is using right-
of-way as a "club", i.e. "saying you better give it to us or we'll take you off the list." He
concluded: "It looks like that section has gone off the list for some reason, although it
appears the 25-foot right-of-way is already dedicated on both sides."
Mr. Dotson said he thought it would be helpful if staff would use the names of roads,
instead of route numbers.
Mr. Cilimberg commented briefly on the plans for improvements to Airport Road (#7 on
the list). He said the County is currently working with the Airport Authority and VDOT
regarding the possibility of use of the Airport Access Fund to help pay for this project,
potentially escalating its time frame.
On the question of whether or not the Commission should hold a public hearing on the
``` Mw Six -Year Road Plan prior to sending it on to the Board, staff was recommending that
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the Commission not hold a public hearing given the fact that there is very little change.
Mr. Dotson did not think there was much to be gained by holding a public hearing at the
Commission level.
MOTION: Mr. Dotson moved that the Commission recommend approval to the Board of
(1) The VDOT Draft Secondary System Construction Program (included as Attachment
B of the staff report, distributed by Mr. Benish at this meeting) with the combination of
the two County -wide projects (priorities #1 and #3 into one project to be prioritized as
#1); and (2) The re -affirmation of the existing unpaved roads policy.
Ms. Huckle seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mr. Finley initially said he would not support the motion because it appeared to him that
some of the priorities had been changed. After staff explained the numbering system
on the priority list and said no projects were re -prioritized, he said his understanding of
the list had been incorrect. However, he still expressed reluctance to support the
motion without the addition of the section of Rt. 667 from Rt. 776 to 601 (project #54),
thus making the improvement to Rt. 667 begin at its intersection with Rt. 665 and
terminate at its intersection with Rt. 601, rather than terminating at Rt. 776 as presently
stated.
Mr. Nitchmann said the motion could include a recommendation to study the possible
addition of the section described by Mr. Finley. Mr. Finley said he would support the
motion it it were so amended.
Mr. Benish said if the Commission so desired, staff would revise the priority to "reflect
the full scope," and Ms. Tucker can then research the feasibility of the change in terms
of funding and whether it should be listed as a separate project.
Mr. Dotson agreed to revise his motion to include a change to the description of project
#54 (gravel road project Rt. 667) saying it is to begin at the intersection with Rt. 665
and end at the intersection with Rt. 601. Ms. Huckle agreed to this amendment to the
motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS
In place of presenting Jefferson Cups to retiring Commission members, as has been
the custom in the past, Ms. Huckle said Mr. Jenkins suggested that cash contributions
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be made instead to one of the housing improvement groups. It was decided this would
be discussed again when a full Commission is present.
Mr. Nitchmann requested the following:
--That the Commission's 1995 Annual Report be completed by February 15th
and that the actions taken be included with each item listed.
--A copy of the 94-95 Work Program be re -distributed to all Commissioners.
--A copy of the Comp Plan Action Agenda (approved at the December 19, 1995,
meeting) be distributed to all Commissioners.
--A list of committee assignments be prepared so that replacements can be
appointed.
--A "general" work session be scheduled where Commissioners can share ideas
about projects which they feel need attention, either in their own particular districts, or
for the County as a whole.
Mr. Dotson suggested a work session dealing with procedure, legal issues, meeting
times, etc. would be helpful, particularly for the new Commissioners.
There was a brief discussion about the Planning Commissioner certification program
*4w offered by VPI Extension. Mr. Cilimberg said the program is very highly regarded
nationally. He encouraged any Commissioner interested to participate. He said there
are funds available which may cover most of the costs.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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