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Home My WebLink About06 20 2002 PC Minutescm Joint Albemarle County June lanning Co mission/Disc II Meeting 20, The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting and a public hearing with the Development Area Initiatives Steering committee at the (County (Office Thursday, June 20, 2002 at 5:00 p.m. in meet ng oom #235 Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present from the DISC II Committee were: Bill Edgerton, Marilyn Gale, Tom Loach, Steve Runkle, William Rieley, Eric Strucko, Chair; Bob Watson, Sherry Buttrick and Jeff Werner. Absent were Katie Hobbs, Steve Von Storch, and Steve Runkle. Planning Commission members attending were: William Rieley, Vice -Chairman; Rodney Thomas, and Bill Edgerton. Absent from the meeting were: Jared Loewenstein, William Finley, Pete Craddock and Tracy Hopper. Staff present were David Benish, Chief of Planning & Community Development; and Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning & Community Development. Other members of the public present were Marcia Joseph, Don Wagner, Chuck Rotgin, Rick Hill and Cecil Sears. Mr. Rieley, Vice -Chairman called the meeting of the Planning Commission to order at 5:25 p.m. Mr. Strucko, Chair, called the meeting of Disc II to order at 5:25 p.m. He noted that since three Planning Commission members were present that it was a joint meeting. Mr. Rotgin stated that he had brought two guests. He introduced n expert ) in n Flo Who was a consultant from Charlotte, North Carolina who wasa traditional design. He introduced his second guest as Cecil Sears who was an economic consultant with Roundtree Associates of Richmond. He pointed out that he had retained Mr. Sears to do some economic feasibility work. He noted that they would be happy to answer questions particularly as they relate to the applicability of the Neighborhood Models with areas like Charlottesville with a relatively low population. Mr. David Benish stated that Elaine Echols was not present today due to an illness. He noted that the blue sheet was Aactrikeouts.and He notedahat theall of the changes from DISC II as of 6-6-02 with any s green sheet was Attachment B and reflected the strike out items with the changes shown in gray. As an introduction, he understood that they through the entire document with the exception of Pages 28 & 29, Attachment A (page 26, Attachment C) Should the paragraphs that are proposed for deletion 288 Albemarle County Planning Commission/Disc II — June 20, 2002 actually be deleted. Mr. Rooker questioned whether �ause they seemed � uld actually be deleted. Staff comment: These paragraphs were deleted be to promote the more conventional form of developmente t Wng wou d be a Neighborhood Model. The only item that staff recommends reference to the need for using shared access feels that they are either major collector roads and arterials. He noted that staff fee redundant or not consistent with the Neighborhood Model principles. These issues or five points were not relevathat was a t for residential. of development that the minimum it was stated that staff felt pattern Neighborhood Model was no longer encouraging. Due to time restraints, the minutes were condensed to note the actual changes and a lot of the dialogue was omitted. • On Page 28, #2 take out "should" before is encouraged. • On Page 28, under Residential Development Design eeoutp items through 5 • On Page 27 and 28 leave the language a under Residential Densities and Relationships to Other Land Uses. On Page 23 of the green copy (Page 19 of the blue), consensus made to • keep the sentence, "To help achieve infill, an inventory of undeveloped and underdeveloped properties within the County's urban neighborhoods, communities, and villages which are available for development should be updated annually." On Page 20, number 8 of the green copy; staff recommended deleting the reference to the edge of the village. ment of RA" to "existing character of On page 23, change "existing develop RA' bottom bullet, consensus formed for "Promote On page 23 of the green copy, a mixture of uses for new development and redevelopment." On page 20 of the blue copy, add the words model and equally to the second • sentence in the middle paragraph to read: "However, it is recognized that as individual proposals are considered, all of Standards, ples below,fthe N not berhood "Model", listed as the General Land Use "equally" applicable to any specific proAll proposals will need ly as they relate to thetmb of considered in a more global context, particular uses." en Marilyn Gale, representative for the Design noted the document as an oveat reir view biggest concern was the application. S application and was something to go by, but their biggest concern are the exact she did not know if anybody was going to be abl them le the ord stances that ly how that would be handled. She noted that a lot ofdepended o were enacted. She asked how as land planners and what d o unexpected problems igner these thoughts and desires are going to be implemented type would they run into. She pointed out that unintentionally there might be problems ALBEMARLE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION/DISC II June 20, 2002 289 w hard was to these that are created. She acknowledged that it tbe goingrtheough amended and approved and they knewthey would not another amendment process any time soon. She stated that it would have to be applied before they could see how it was ability � li going to work. In that regard, they to interpret some of the things were hopeful that there was going to be some y that were said in here in a manner that is sensible. he guidelines are going to be ed that they were concerned with the site planning stage ad implemented and what some of these things eand some nonresn they are idential applied. An example is the percentages for residential area. She asked how this was going to be filtered down to the Zoning Ordinance and the Zoning categories and who would do documentation would tke those lhey need to When they submit plans, she asked what type o back themselves up. Mr. Rieley stated that the intention was to make the process more predictable and, therefore, easier for developers. Ms. Gale stated that their other concern was theirclientsand w at the what iCous here expectation would be. She noted that there ag 9 ap and then what is designed on paper. She statedthat she lhave them looked love to have the opportunity for someone within their group to dosketches and at so that they could all get on the same tract. She pointed out that this was a very dramatic change. Mr. Rieley stated that an important point was to get feedback early without an enormous investment. He pointed out that currently the preliminary it that they plan has a check list that is several pages long and is expensive. He suggested work on mechanisms to improve that process in dealing with those issues. Mr. Thomas stated that the Neighborhood Model is an open book with the twelve principles to use for guidance and was not the MrBenish stated that this matter would go 9 the 0 a.m. of Supervisors on July .3rd which was a day meeting that started at Mr. Strucko asked if the Board would take public comments. Mr. Rotgin stated that the Chairmen indicated to that discussed relegated parkiat it would be a work session, ng that could change. He stated that he was on page 21 of the blue copy. He asked that someone comment on the definition of relegated parking and describe what is the side and rear. He felt that was a big issue. Mr. Rieley stated that on page 11 that it indicated that t e preference buildings.Would be for the parking lots to be located on the side a r ear ALBEMARLE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION/DISC II June 20, 2002 FM M Mr. Benish stated that there were determinations to be Administrator. deoncorner not d that lots and on small lots, which would be made by the Zoning you would have to look at that particular development's pattern of development. Mr. Rotgin stated that it would be helpful if they eoulld cmto the County early on with sketches before they spent a lot of money plans. Mr. Rieley stated that they were strongly encouraged the lay come in with conut of the ceptual plans, but still to be able to understand the grading d building. He pointed out that a couple of years on aspecial go the use permit ppiication lanning Commission made a list of the things they wanted to see or a rezoning. He felt that would be helpful. Mr. Rotgin expressed appreciation for the work sessions and all of the work that the staff has done. Mr. Benish stated that staff would identify the areas that need to ter to review them hanged in the Subdivision Ordinance and then ask Mr. Ka p Mr. Strucko stated that the Board of Supervisors would review this issue on July 3rd The meeting adjourned at 6:52 p.m. (Recorded and transcribed by Sharon C. Taylor, Recording Secretary) 291 ALBEMARLE COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION/DISC 11 June 20, 2002