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May 18, 2004
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting and a public hearing on Tuesday,
May 18, 2004 at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire
Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. Members attending were William Rieley, Rodney Thomas,
Chairman, Calvin Morris, Marcia Joseph, Bill Edgerton and Pete Craddock, Vice -Chairman.
Absent from the meeting was Jo Higgins.
Other officials present were David Benish, Chief of Planning and Community Development;
Margaret Doherty, Senior Planner; Yadira Amarante, Planner and Greg Kamptner, Assistant
County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Thomas called the regular meeting to order at 6:10 p.m. and established a quorum.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Mr. Thomas invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. There
being none, the meeting proceeded.
Consent Agenda:
Approval of Planning Commission Minutes - March 9, 2004
Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner would like to pull any item off the consent agenda. There
being none, he asked for a motion.
Mr. Morris moved for approval of the consent agenda as presented.
Mr. Edgerton seconded the motion, which carried by a vote of (5:0). (Higgins, Rieley - Absent)
Deferred Items:
SUB-2004-00058 Orchard Estates - Request for preliminary plat approval to create 17 lots on
229.96 acres. The property is zoned RA, Rural Area. The property, described as Tax Map 103,
Parcels 7, 8, 9, 10 and 15 is located in the Scottsville Magisterial District on Rt. 795 (President
Road), approximately 2 miles south of the President Road and Rt. 620 (Rolling Road)
intersection. The Comprehensive Plan designates this property as Rural Areas in Rural Area 4.
(Yadira Amarante) DEFERRED FROM THE APRIL 20, 2004 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING.
Ms. Joseph stated that she would recluse herself from this item and left the meeting room.
Ms. Amarante summarized the staff report. This project was last before the Commission on
February 3 of this year. At that time, the applicant was requesting the same subdivision with 17
lots located on public roads. VDOT had required at that time that they obtain a sight distance
easement for the entrance. The Department of Engineering concurred that they needed that
easement before the County could approve the preliminary plat. Since that time, the applicant
has acquired that easement and it has been recorded. VDOT and the Engineering Department
have reviewed and approved it. Staff is now recommending approval of SUB-2004-00058 for
Orchard Estates preliminary plat with the conditions listed in the staff report.
Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner had any questions for Ms. Amarante.
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Mr. Craddock asked how much of the proposed subdivision was in the agricultural/forestal district
*6W Ms. Amarante stated that she did not have the acreages listed. There is a design showing all of
the parcels in question of the plat on the top of sheet 3 of Attachment B. The parcels located in
the agricultural/forestal district are outlined in dots. There are approximately 100 acres out of the
229 acres of this particular project in the agricultural/forestal district.
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Mr. Thomas asked if there were any other questions for Ms. Amarante. There being none, he
opened the public hearing and asked the applicant to come forward and address the
Commission.
Mr. Rieley arrived at 6:13 p.m.
Steve Blaine, representative for the applicant, stated that the staff report sets forth the basis for
approval and supports the subdivision in accordance with the ordinance. He pointed out if there
were any questions that he would be happy to answer them. As Ms. Amarante stated, they were
here back in February when this item was deferred because of the sight distance issue, but now
that has been resolved to both VDOT's and Engineering's satisfaction. Therefore, the matter is
appropriately before the Commission.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for the applicant.
Mr. Craddock asked if they bought the easement, and Mr. Blaine stated that they purchased the
easement, but did not buy it in fee simple.
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any one present who would like to come forward to speak on this
application. There being no one, he closed the public hearing to bring the matter back to the
Commission for discussion and possible action.
Mr. Craddock stated that he would vote against the request because it compromises and goes
against the spirit of the agricultural/forestal district.
Mr. Kamptner arrived at 6:15 p.m.
Mr. Rieley stated that he was sympathetic to Mr. Craddock's sentiment, but felt that this was a
ministerial action since the Commission has the responsibility to pass along a subdivision that
meets the requirements of the ordinance. He moved for approval of SUB-2004-058 Orchard
Estates with the conditions as outlined in the staff report.
The Planning Department shall not accept submittal of the final subdivision plat for signature until
tentative final approval for the following conditions have been obtained. The final subdivision plat
shall not be signed until the following conditions have been met:
1. On Sheet 5 of 9, please show the property boundary lines. [14-303(C)]
2. An erosion control plan, narrative and computations. [14-311, 17-203]
3. A storm water management/BMP plan and computations. Computations must include
water quality and detention routings for the 2yr and 10yr storms. [17-304]
4. A mitigation plan for stream buffer disturbance. [17-322]
5. A completed storm water management facilities maintenance agreement and fee. [17-
323]
6. Road plans, pavement design sheets, and drainage computations. [14-512, 14-304,
Policy]
7. All improvements are to be bonded or built before final plat approval. Bond estimate and
construction schedule forms can be obtained from the Engineering office. [14-413]
8. Health Department approval of all drain field locations. [14-309, 14-518]
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9. State the acreage that is being transferred from Parcel 10 to Lot 17. In your response
letter, you stated that 0.63 acres are being transferred, but that is the acreage being
transferred from Lot 17 to Parcel 10. There is a larger piece being transferred from 103-
10 to Lot 17, in between the road and the original parcel boundary of Lot 17. [14-302(M)]
10. On Sheet 4 of 9, the note on Lots 16 and 17 should be revised to state that each lot
retains 3 development rights. On Sheet 4 of 9, notes #5 & #6, delete the aggregate
acreage stuff. These types of notes are only necessary when the original acreage of the
property is over 31 acres. On Sheet 4 of 9, note #7, state that Lots16 and 17 retain 3
development rights each. [14-302(0)]
Mr. Morris seconded the motion, which carried by a vote of (5:1). (Craddock - Nay) (Higgins -
Absent)
Ms. Joseph returned to the meeting.
ZMA-03-12 Stillfried Lane Townhouses (Sign #21, 51) - Request to rezone 6.53 acres from
R-1, Residential to PRD, Planned Residential District to allow up to 25 dwelling units. The
property, described as Tax Map 60, Parcels 32, 33, and 34, is located in the Jack Jouett
Magisterial District on Stillfried Lane off Rt. 250W (Ivy Road) behind the Kluge Children's Rehab
Center. The Comprehensive Plan designates this property as Office Service in Neighborhood 6.
(Margaret Doherty) DEFERRED FROM THE MAY 4, 2004 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING.
Ms. Doherty summarized the staff report. She apologized for the inaccuracies contained in the
staff report. This staff report was written by Michael Barnes before he left and the plan changed
between the time he wrote the report and when it was sent out. She passed out a proffer form.
(See Attachment B) She passed out a letter from John Matthews, an adjoining property owner, in
support of the change of zoning assuming the run-off problems from "U" Heights development
that has occurred in the past and from the new development are addressed so that the run-off in
all cases will be retained on site and will be released in controlled amounts after any rain event.
(Attachment A) The changes include that the applicant plans to keep the old house and to put in
four new town homes. She pointed out that information was referenced throughout the staff
report. Weatherhill Homes is proposing a rezoning of 6.6 acres from R-1 to PRD to accommodate
a 26-unit townhouse project at the end of Stillfried Lane. The applicant is also requesting a critical
slopes waiver in the establishment of internal setback, which has to be approved by the Board.
The site is situated behind the Kluge Rehabilitation Center on Lewis Mountain, which gradually
slopes up from Route 250. The front portion of the site is an open lawn with numerous large
trees. The applicant's plan seeks to conserve as many of these trees as possible. The rear of the
property is heavily wooded and rises steeply. The applicant's proposal limits grading and
construction in the rear of the site and the applicant has proffered to preserve the larger trees
found in this area. The applicant has proposed what they feel provides for a high quality relatively
high -density project that does not affect the site's natural resources. The applicant is also
designing several of the townhouses to be smaller than the others, which will be offered at a
reduced price, and thus be available to a wider market. Staff finds that the application meets most
of the applicable principles of the Neighborhood Model and that they have provided cash to assist
in the County's Capital Improvement Program. Their proposal ensures building massing and
architecture that meets the County's goals for the development areas. Therefore, staff
recommends approval of the rezoning, critical slopes waiver and the internal setback
modification. The remaining issue as always is the proffers. The applicant has provided a revised
proffer form which staff handed out to the Commission tonight, which has been reviewed and
approved by the County Attorney's Office and the Zoning Administrator. The proffers provide a
$1,000 per dwelling unit towards pedestrian improvements in Neighborhood V. One of the issues
that staff just started working on this afternoon was that neither the proffers nor the application
plan addresses the County's recently adopted goal of providing 15 percent of affordable units.
Hopefully, what the Commission could do tonight is address any issues about the application plan
r and then get into a good discussion about proffers in order to get clear direction on how staff and
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the applicant could work towards the completion of the proffers. The proffers could be changed
between now and the Board date, which was June 9. She pointed out that this project has been
*4W deferred many times and they were running behind schedule. If the Commission has any
questions, she would be happy to answer them.
Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner had any questions for Ms. Doherty. Other than the
confusion from going from one plan to the other and getting lost in the shuffle, he asked if the 15
percent of affordable housing was the only thing overlooked.
Ms. Doherty stated that staff worked with the applicant for many months on this project and feel
like they have gotten towards a very high quality development. The off -site improvements that
they were looking for were accomplished. Also, they worked towards a resolution with the
proffers. The applicant is providing for a strategy towards affordable housing by providing
different types of unit styles. But, this project is not what staff would consider affordable. The
applicant has said that this is more of a high -end project and they do not anticipate that any of the
units would meet our affordability requirements. She pointed out that Nick Michaels may be able
to answer this better about what conversations were held between Michael Barnes and the
applicant before he left on whether they would be willing to provide 15 percent of affordable
housing.
Mr. Thomas suggested that they have the applicant address that issue first. There being no more
questions for staff, he opened the public hearing and asked if the applicant would like to come
forward and address the Commission.
Nick Michaels, representative of Weatherhill Homes, stated that he had not prepared anything,
but would be happy to answer any questions.
Mr. Thomas asked if he could comment on the affordable housing issue.
Mr. Michaels stated that from the very beginning Vito Cetta was on a number of the AHIP
affordable housing committees and has been working for a number of years trying to move this
issue forward. There are 26 townhouses that are 25 feet wide. There are 4 townhouses that are
included as small units to attempt to get into the affordable range, which is somewhat of a moving
target. He pointed out that he was not sure where that target is right now because it goes up and
down depending on the interest rates and many other things. He noted that they had understood
that it would be around $175,000 at the time they started the project and included the four units
hoping that they could deliver them at that price or very close to that price. With the site costs it is
not an easy site to work with. They are going to have to go all the way down to Route 250 for
water. It is about 600 feet to the property and then another 200 feet to the nearest unit that the 8"
water line will have to be run. They will have to go off site for the sewer connection because the
closest line is one property removed at University Heights. With the development costs per lot up
because of the site improvements, and short of losing money on providing affordable housing, the
closest they think they can come is in that $200,000 to $225,000 range. Again, as they get further
into the design they will be able to refine that. But at this stage that is a realistic target. He pointed
out that they were trying to get closer to the affordable range.
Mr. Edgerton asked how much the non -affordable units would be going for.
Mr. Michaels stated that the others would probably be in the $350,000 to $400,000 range, but that
at this point that was their closest guess. They had made an effort to meet the guidelines of
providing varied surfaces and mixed materials. The first display on the left is a typical unit where
the car would enter into a garage. There will be two parking spaces in each of the wider units on
the inside and then two more on the apron for a total of four spaces per unit. The 16-foot units, as
currently designed, have parking for two cars inside and one on the apron. He pointed out that
would more than meet the requirements for guest parking and per unit parking. There are three
buildings as you look at the site plan. The two at the top of the hill are slightly different and
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actually are not illustrated with an elevation, but they are very similar in feel. There is some guest
parking provided along the road and the owner's parking is provided underneath the unit.
Therefore, there are only seven surface spaces and the rest are all inside. The other item that
they have addressed with the Engineering Department is the storm water runoff. There was a
concern in this area because there is a storm water bottle neck at the base of Stillfried Lane that
the Engineering Department has studied. It was found that it would be too expensive to undo the
bottleneck, which is due to the unrestricted water flow from University Heights. At the time that
University Heights was built there was no adequate detention requirements. Therefore, when it
rains the water comes down and funnels through one property, which is the John Matthews
property. What they have managed to do is take the line share and bring the water around the
upper part of the site and around the other side of Kluge where there is no bottleneck. All of the
storm water system involves retaining the water in underground storage conduits and releasing
the water slowly after the rain event.
Mr. Thomas asked if the water was being released to the west.
Mr. Michaels stated that they have not done any calculations, but estimate that about 90 percent
of the runoff will go around to that side. He pointed out that when they added the extra four units
they were able to lower that part of the site and now there is a good chance that even less of the
water will come around the eastern side. He stated that they have not had a chance to complete
the engineering there, but will once they were in the site plan process.
Ms. Joseph asked if all four stories of the building closest to Route 250 would be visible from the
road.
Mr. Michaels stated that the buildings would be two stories on one side and four stories on the
other. He pointed out that right now if you drove past it that he did not think they would be able to
see anything because there was many leaves blocking the view. He pointed out that they had
gone to some expensive efforts to save some of the trees at the very bottom of the site to the
right of the little building. Specifically, there is a 52-inch Tulip Poplar and a 48 inch Tulip Poplar.
There are many trees close to that size growing up the hill also. It is actually a magnificent site as
you look up the hills. There are some pines trees around the houses. There has been some
effort to save trees right at the entrance. Regarding the review from Route 250, there is a three -
tiered retaining wall, with each wall being no higher than 6 feet. The intention is to plant the walls
with shrubs and ivy. The proposed retaining wall is heavily rusticated and concrete, which looks
like cut stone. He stated that VDOT was requiring a 150-foot deceleration lane to be added on
Route 250.
Mr. Craddock asked if there was enough traffic to justify a traffic light
Mr. Michaels stated that they have determined that it is not.
Mr. Thomas asked if there was anyone else in the audience who would like to speak on this
application. There being none, he closed the public hearing to bring the application back to the
Commission for discussion and possible action.
Mr. Morris stated that when the Board of Supervisors took action on the fifteen percent affordable
housing that he recalled that they stated that it would be a goal. He asked Mr. Kamptner if that
was correct.
Mr. Kamptner stated that the requirement to provide fifteen percent of affordable housing was
part of the Comprehensive Plan and was a goal to strive for.
Mr. Benish stated that was correct and pointed out that there is also flexibility to consider other
means by which to achieve that. He stated that it was not necessarily a flat number. There was
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discussion about making sure that the language had some flexibility to achieve it other than
having to literally provide 15 percent of the units.
Mr. Morris asked how that could be done here.
Mr. Benish stated that there were all sorts of ways that you could do it. There could be cash
contributions equivalent to a housing program. He stated that they could do less than fifteen
percent, but it would have to be consistent with the character of the development. One of the
things that were discussed with the Housing Committee was whether there was going to be a
minimum set. For many affordable housing standards there is a minimum because at a certain
threshold of development it is more impact to provide that affordable housing. The Housing
Committee did not want to set a minimum because they wanted to set that strong goal but still
have some flexibility within that goal. He stated that there was an understanding that you might
get less than 15 percent in certain developments and in others you might get more.
Mr. Rieley stated that in an associated question the applicant seemed to indicate that there was
some softness in the calculation of the number. He asked if there was a formula.
Mr. Benish stated that there is a determination of what is affordable. The Housing Office
determines that and there is a method to determine what that is. What happens depends on
interest rates and other financial conditions that will fluctuate from time to time. He noted that they
could figure out what that is at any time.
Mr. Rieley asked to the best of his knowledge what percentage of this development meets that
standard. He asked how many units out of the 26.
Mr. Benish stated that he could only go by what the applicant just said because he heard them
say that they wanted to have four units and keep the house, which was close to that. He noted
that they were not sure if they will be able to achieve any units at the $175,000 or $180,000. He
noted that they were striving to bring it as close to that as possible.
Mr. Michaels stated that they were aiming at 4 units, but that so far they would not meet the
$175,000 threshold.
Mr. Edgerton pointed out that currently there were no affordable units proposed in this
development because they cannot meet the threshold for $175,000 units. He stated that there
were no affordable units being proposed. The other issue that he was struggling with was that
the fiscal impact study noted that it was going to cost between $15,000 and $25,000 a year of lost
revenue to allow this project to go through.
Mr. Michaels stated that they had talked with the staff person who prepared that about how he
arrived at his numbers. For instance, in the property taxes generated he is showing $23,000,
which is some sort of an average they use on these impacts. He pointed out that if they were
selling the houses for what he mentioned before that the property tax generated would be
probably be two to three times what he has stated there. He noted that it was called an unofficial
tabulation versus an official tabulation based on what property taxes would be thrown off. He
pointed out that he used $1,000 per unit and it would be more than that.
Mr. Rieley stated that he was concerned about the layout and scale of the buildings on that site,
which was a point that Ms. Joseph had raised.
Ms. Joseph stated that it was a massive project and would not be reviewed by ARB.
Mr. Benish stated that based on the goal the figure would be around four units. One option is to
get back with the Housing Office to see what kind of suggestions they might have. They have
been talking recently about some condemnations of locking in fewer homes at a certain price and
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dedicating some lots to AHIP for them to build homes. There are some new ideas that the
Housing Office is thinking about with the Chief of Housing. He stated that he did not know how
*4W much discussion has transpired recently, but that was one option. The Commission can act on
the request and then in the intervening period for the Board of Supervisors that the applicant can
address that too if it is the Commission's and applicant's goal to move it forward.
Mr. Rieley stated that the Commission's action is obviously as advisory to the Board of
Supervisors, and therefore could go in several directions after it leaves here.
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Mr. Craddock asked to make a comment about the affordable housing. He stated that he had
been the one who talked a lot about it at North Pointe and they were talking about a few hundred
or so houses. He wondered at this location how affordable is something going to be right in that
location. He suggested that the owner take the other 42 units up in price and bring the other 4
down in price.
Mr. Edgerton pointed out that they would lose their opportunity if they did not take advantage of
this opportunity because this was high end housing.
Mr. Thomas stated that the biggest problem is the price of the land. He pointed out that unless
the density is increased there that there would not be any affordable housing in that area.
Mr. Rieley stated that this was a rezoning from R-1 to R-6 and that affordable housing should be
a part of that.
Mr. Benish stated that one thing that would be useful for the Commission to clarify with whatever
action they take is the two questions that have been raised concerning the affordable housing
and the density of the development. If there is a clear direction and that is the sentiment that the
Commission wants staff to address for at least the impact of the development on the site. He
stated that if the Commission could clarify that issue that it would be very helpful.
Mr. Rieley stated that there were individual Commissioners that expressed concerns about
design and density issues, but he thought that the overwhelming issue for everybody is the
affordable housing.
Mr. Rieley made a motion to recommend of denial of ZMA-2003-12, Stillfried Lane Townhouses.
Mr. Morris seconded the motion, which carried by a vote of (6:0). (Higgins — Absent)
Mr. Kamptner asked if any of the Commissioners had any comments about the proffers. He noted
that there was a comment about the adequacy of the cash contribution proffer number 5 as being
insufficient to address the CIP impacts. He pointed out that he had some minor typographical
changes that he would pass on to Ms. Doherty.
Mr. Rieley stated that from the general perspective of the magnitude of the project that the
provisions for affordable housing looked extremely low. He suggested that between now and the
Board hearing that it would be useful if staff could make the comparison between this and the
residential units at Hollymead Town Center and the residential units at North Pointe so that they
were looking at things on equal terms.
Mr. Thomas stated that the recommendation for denial of ZMA-2003-12, Stillfried Lane
Townhouses, would be forwarded to the Board of Supervisors. The Board will hear this request
on June 9.
Public Hearing Item:
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Community Facilities Plan — Proposal to amend the Community Facilities Plan, a component of
the Comprehensive Plan, including sections on overall service objectives, and sections pertaining
to Police, Fire/Rescue, Schools and Library facilities. (David Benish)
Mr. Benish stated that this is the public hearing on the Community Facilities Plan for the overall
service objectives for the Police, Fire/Rescue, Schools and Library sections. The Commission
has had three work sessions. This is the Commission's opportunity to receive any public
comment. He stated that the updated school section correcting the errors and adding the
changes had not been completed. He stated that he had several discussions with AI Reasor and
there were a couple of changes that he is suggesting that will probably come back to the
Commission in a work session. In the high school section specifically there was a standard for
high school parking of five spaces per student. Mr. Reasor's preference would be to have it more
as a general statement that they use in elementary and middle schools, which is really to suggest
that it needs to be based on the study. It should reference the need for students, teachers, and
teacher assistants instead of setting one set number. Staff has no problem with his suggestion.
The other thing for this public hearing piece that the Commission can act on today coming out of
last week's section on schools, they had discussed adding an overall facilities' objective which
would go into page 4, which would be to have a new objective that encouraged the
environmentally sound design and construction of buildings. Staff has not created that language
yet.
Mr. Edgerton pointed out that he had promised to provide that language, but had not been able to
do so. He apologized and noted that he would get that done.
Mr. Benish stated that if the Commission were to take action on this that they could do so pending
that language being added. Staff would get that done before it went to the Board of Supervisors.
Ms. Joseph pointed out that they had talked about adding that language to the other pieces of
this, too.
Mr. Benish stated that staff would add that language to the other previously discussed sections
for emphasis. That is really the update from last week when they most recently discussed parts of
this. He stated that the Commission could take this opportunity to discuss this more. He asked
that the Commission not take action on the school section because they are scheduled to go to
the School Board on May 27. Staff will be presenting that section to them and then coming back
to the Commission with their comments and concerns.
Mr. Rieley stated that if they take action on this that it would be without the school's section, and
they should specifically eliminate that.
Mr. Benish presumed that they would condition it with the inclusion of the environmentally sound
design language being included.
Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner had anything else to bring up.
Ms. Joseph pointed out that she preferred taking out the actual numbers for parking. Since that
was also in the library service section, she suggested that it also be changed to be less specific.
Mr. Benish stated that they could go either way with it. One of the values of this section is that
when they are looking at sites they can look at some factors that would give you some
measurement of whether a site is a good site or not. But, similarly it is not essential because it
could be figured out by using common construction and site ratios. He pointed out that it was not
absolutely essential. It is the one thing that you do lose when you go out and look at a site
because they can kind of factor in these various square footages that they put into place. He
noted that it was not that important. For consistency he felt that they made a good point.
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Mr. Morris questioned whether it was wise to put in a two -acre minimum for the size of the site for
a library.
Mr. Benish stated that the language could be taken out. In the last sentence it states that,
"Smaller sites may be appropriate depending on the character. " That sentence was supposed to
build in some flexibility. The idea of the two acres was to help staff in the site selection. He stated
that instead of a minimum for a desirable site it should be feasible site.
Mr. Edgerton asked why two acres was picked since it seems very big.
Mr. Benish stated that it includes the parking and would build in some expandability. He noted
that they wanted to find a site that could be retained and expanded in the future.
Mr. Benish stated that in order not to send a mixed message that he would take out minimum and
replace it with desirable in the library section.
Mr. Edgerton suggested adding the words "to allow for future expansion."
Mr. Benish stated that a couple of Commissioners had questioned why there would be square
footage sizes for the schools. After talking with Mr. Reasor, he agreed that it would probably be
best not to put the square footages in. Therefore, staff will take those specific numbers out.
Mr. Morris asked that the following corrections be made on page 3:
1. "The County's population for 2000 was ..."
2. Change the sentence after Distribution of Population to read, "As of July 2003, there is a
tota I of ... "
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any other questions for David.
Mr. Rieley asked if there was a logistical advantage for the Commission to pass this along without
the education piece or would it make sense to wait and pass it all on together. He asked what
staff's preference was.
Mr. Benish stated that there was so much going to the Board this summer that it would not matter
if the Commission wanted to wait and pass it all along at once. He noted that staff previously had
suggested that the Commission pass this part on without the education section. The School
Board will hear this on May 27. He stated that the safest thing to do would be for the Commission
to pass this piece along and then staff would just hold forwarding it to the Board until after the
School Board hears the education section.
Mr. Rieley stated that if that was more convenient for staff that he had no problem doing it that
way.
Mr. Thomas opened the public hearing and asked if there was anyone in the audience who
wanted to come forward and speak on this application. Since there was no one, he closed the
public hearing to bring the matter back to the Commission for discussion and a possible action.
Mr. Rieley moved to send the Community Facilities Plan to the Board of Supervisors with a
recommendation for approval, holding out the school section for the time being, with the following
changes which includes the additional environmental language and the editorial changes as
discussed.
Mr. Craddock seconded the motion, which carried by a vote of (6:0). (Higgins — Absent)
Mr. Rieley asked that Mr. Benish and Mr. Edgerton work on developing the proposed
environmental language.
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Mr. Benish stated that he thought that this was scheduled to be heard by the Board sometime in
July and that staff is hopeful that the school section would catch up with this.
Old Business:
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any old business
Mr. Edgerton stated that he received an electronic version of the Belvedere rezoning from Susan
Thomas and asked if this rezoning was coming up soon.
Mr. Benish stated that the way the new process for the preliminary work session was suppose to
occur was that the Commission would approve the final statements for the direction the rezoning
was going. The Commission looked at an earlier draft at one time, but then it came back for
another work session and was discussed further. That document had some of the clean ups to
that meeting which staff did not send out to receive an approval on. Therefore, that is why that
email was sent to the Commission. Therefore, if the Commission has any problems with them,
please let staff know. If the Commission feels the changes are significant enough, then they can
bring it back under old business.
Mr. Edgerton asked if they should put this on the agenda as an item to discuss.
Mr. Benish stated that they could if the Commission feels that it is worth doing. The Commission
discussed it once and if you think that staff captured it well enough, then he did not think they
needed to discuss it any further. But, the Commission could plan to go over it next week under
old business.
Mr. Edgerton suggested that they follow Mr. Benish's suggestion and discuss it under old
business next week. He noted that when he read it that he remembered what he had said, but he
was just not sure what they needed to be doing with it.
Ms. Joseph noted that if the item is put on the agenda that it was likely that the applicant will be
here to hear what is said if there are any changes.
Mr. Edgerton pointed out that if they did that then they would have to provide public notice.
Mr. Thomas suggested that they get their comments back to staff and then wait until the public
hearing to give comments.
Mr. Benish stated that the request was being submitted and worked on. Therefore, they would be
having an end zoning review work session coming up in the near future and what they are
working from is our advice based on this language right now. Therefore, in some ways they are
kind of behind the game since this should have been done about a month ago.
Mr. Benish stated that he hoped that it was reflective of what they went over before.
Mr. Thomas suggested that all of the Commissioners read this and send comments back to staff,
and then next week they can bring this issue up again.
Ms. Joseph asked if they would be hearing The Rocks again next week
Mr. Kamptner stated that was correct because there was an error in the advertising. He pointed
out that essentially it was the same application, but that it needs to come back. He noted that two
of the four key changes to the application plan were not advertised.
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There being no other old business, the meeting proceeded to new business.
New Business
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any new business.
Mr. Morris stated that he had a question about the Commission's procedure. He suggested that
they lay out their individual vacation schedules so that they could ensure that there is a quorum
as the vacation season comes about.
Mr. Thomas stated that was a good idea and suggested that they discuss vacation schedules
next week.
Mr. Thomas stated that if any Commissioner had any comments on how the staff reports were
being presented to them or any suggestions for improvements that they email that information to
Mr. Cilimberg. There are many changes going on in the department, and staff is working
diligently to get it to work for staff, the applicant and the Commission.
Ms. Joseph asked if that includes the Commission getting the staff reports a week before the
meeting.
Mr. Thomas pointed out that he had discussed that with Mr. Cilimberg and that the packets for
next week should be distributed tonight. But, due to one of the applicant's showing up this
morning with additional changes, the staff reports for next week were not ready to be distributed
tonight.
Ms. Joseph pointed out that it was not only important for the Commission, but the applicant needs
to receive the staff report in a timely manner, too. She pointed out that it is really tough to receive
the staff report two days before the meeting.
Mr. Thomas noted that the Planning Department's goal is for the Commissioners to have the
packets this week for next week's meeting. He noted that there would be a work session next
week at 4:00 p.m. in Meeting Room 235 and that they need to bring their Rural Areas notebooks.
Mr. Benish summarized the actions taken by the Board of Supervisors on May 12th
There being no further new business, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment:
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 7:25 p.m. to the next meeting on May 25, 2004 at
4:00 p.m.
V. Wayne Cilimberg, Secretary
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon Clayton Taylor, Recording Secretary.)
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PROFFER FORM
Date of Proffer Signature: _6.8.04
ZMA # 2003-012
Tax Map 60 and Parcel Numbers 32, 33 and 34
Original Proffer
Amended Proffer
(Amendment # )
6.514 Acres to be rezoned from R=1 (Residential) to PRD (Planned Residential Development)
Pursuant to Section 33.3 of the Albemarle County Zoning Ordinance, the owner, or its duly authorized agent,
hereby voluntarily proffers the conditions listed below which shall be applied to the property, if rezoned with the
offered plans approved for development. These conditions are proffered as a part of the requested rezoning and it is
agreed that: (1) the rezoning itself gives rise to the need for the conditions; and (2) such conditions have a
reasonable relation to the rezoning request.
(1) The development on Tax Map 60 and Parcel Numbers 32, 33 and 34 shall be in general accord with the plan
produced by Terra Partners, LLC, dated December 19, 2003, revised April 23, 2004 entitled "The Stillfried
Lane Townhomes at Poplar Glen", herein referred to as the application plan, (sheets 2 of 3 and 3 of 3).
(2) No building permit shall be issued unless and until the Director of Planning and Community Development, or
his assigns, determines that the building facades are in general accord with the architecture plans produced by
Bosserman Design/Development, dated 10/29/03, last revised 12/22/03, entitled "Poplar Glen, Stillfried Lane
Townhomes", sheets p-1, p-2, and p-3. The facades shall be determined to be in general accord if the
architecture implements features that break up the massing of the building, such as the porches, porticos,
variations in building materials, and gables which break up the rooflines
(3) The owner shall avoid cutting all trees (greater than six (6) inches diameter at breast height) in the area labeled
Conservation Area on the Application Plan.
(4) The owner shall bury all utilities on the project site during the construction of the townhouses, including those
utilities (electric, telephone, sewer and water) serving the UVA Cochran House on Tax Map 60 Parcel 34A,
prior to issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy for any dwelling unit.
(5) The owner shall contribute a total of $26,000 cash to the County for funding of park and/or pedestrian projects
of the County's choosing, identified in the County's capital improvement program, prior to or at the time of the
issuance of first Building Permit for any dwelling unit. If this cash contribution has not been exhausted by the
County for the stated purpose within ten (10) years from the date of the contribution, all unexpended funds
shall be refunded to the owner..
Signatures of All Owners
Vito Cetta
Printed Names of All Owners
Signature of Attorney -in -Fact Printed Name of Attorney -in -Fact
(Attach Proper Power of Attorney)
Date