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Albemarle County Planning Commission
November 30, 2004
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting and public hearing on Tuesday, November
30, 2004 at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia. Members attending were Rodney Thomas, Chairman; Bill Edgerton; Cal Morris;
Marcia Joseph and Pete Craddock, Vice -Chairman. Absent were William Rieley; Jo Higgins and David J.
Neuman, FAIA, Architect for University of Virginia (non -voting). Mary Hughes was present for Mr.
Neuman.
Other officials present were Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning & Community Development; Stephen
Waller, Senior Planner; Rebecca Ragsdale, Planner; Yadira Amarante, Senior Planner; Susan Thomas,
Senior Planner; Bill Fritz, Chief of Current Development and Greg Kamptner, Assistant County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Thomas called the regular meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Mr. Thomas invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. There being
none, the Commission moved to the next item on the agenda.
Public Hearing Items:
ZMA-2004-015 Boars Head Inn and Sports Club (Signs #70, 71 & 72): Request to rezone
approximately 13.4 acres from R-1, Residential to HC, Highway Commercial, to allow new indoor and
outdoor tennis courts with associated parking at the existing Boar's Head Inn & Sports Club. The
property, described as Tax Map 59D2, Section 1, Parcel 15 and Tax Map 75, Parcel 63 (portion), is
zoned R-1, Residential and HC, Highway Commercial. It is located on the south side of Ivy Road (Route
250 West), just west of the entrance to Ednam and south of the Boar's Head Inn, in the Samuel Miller
Magisterial District. The Comprehensive Plan designates this property as Office Service and Institutional
in Neighborhood 6. (Susan Thomas)
Ms. Thomas summarized the staff report. The most complex part of this project has been the process.
There was some confusion at the staff level about how to handle this request relative to the provisions of
our ordinance. The process started down the path of a special use permit, but then staff realized because
of the split zoning on the parcel that it was not going to be possible. Therefore, the Planning Commission
has a rezoning petition before them that on the face of it sounds as though the applicant is asking for a
fairly intensive district. But the reality is that Highway Commercial happens to be the only zoning district
that would allow such a use when associated with the health club, which puts it into the category of health
spa or health facility. Briefly, that is one reason why staffs path twisted and turned. This project has been
under review for several months. There is an existing facility at the Boars Head Inn and Sports Club.
The Sports Club ownership is the University Foundation. The applicant seeks to expand the tennis courts
because the tennis team has been practicing there in inclement weather. This has created some
inconvenience for club members because the courts are in short supply with the University's sports team
using them. There is a lot of demand for tennis in this area and Boars Head is one place where it occurs.
Therefore, the applicant would like to expand the indoor courts to accommodate the existing demand as
well as the anticipated future demand. If the rezoning is approved, the indoor tennis facility will be
enlarged. It will be a large building. The building incentive from staffs standpoint has been since both
adjacent parcels are under the same ownership there is a strong desire on the part of the Foundation to
make the building as compatible as possible with the adjacent golf course. The golf course is very
beautifully landscaped. It is nice that there is an incentive in that direction as opposed to one where there
is separate ownership and the impacts fall on different parties. The applicant is present. If there are
specific questions, staff would be happy to answer them. It is a very straight forward proposal. If there
are any questions on the proffers, staff would be happy to answer them.
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Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner had any questions for staff. There being none, he opened the
public hearing and invited the applicant to come forward to speak.
Ms. Valerie Long, Attorney, stated that she was present to represent the applicants for this proposal,
which are the University Foundation and the University of Virginia Post Properties. The latter entity owns
and manages the Boars Head Inn and Sports Club. She pointed out that there are a number of
representatives of both entities present this evening in case there are any other questions. Those
individuals present include Mr. Tim Rose, President of the University of Virginia Foundation; Mr. Bruce
Stouffer, Director of Real Estate Development; and Mr. Fred Missel, who is in charge of their design
issues. There are several persons present from the Boars Head Inn, which include Mr. Jorg Lappuner,
General Manager of the Inn and Pat Simpson, Director of the Sports Club. She stated that if there are
any questions that she was not able to answer sufficiently that one or all of those folks could help. She
thanked Susan Thomas for all of her help throughout this process. The process has been very tricky for
the applicant in trying to find a zoning category that was appropriate for this property and that would
accommodate all of the uses that are going on now and that are expected to continue. The bulk of the
Boars Head property is already zoned Highway Commercial and has been for some time. A small portion
of one of the parcels comprising the property has split zoning. The northern portion is zoned Highway
Commercial and the southern portion is zoned R-1, Residential. In addition, the adjacent Birdwood Golf
Course is zoned R-1, Residential. What the applicant is proposing is to rezone the southern half of the
one parcel that is currently R-1 to Highway Commercial so that parcel is consistent with the balance of the
Boars Head property. Also, the request is to rezone almost two acres that is part of the golf course,
which would essentially be cut off and added to the Boars Head Sports Club parcel. That property would
be rezoned from R-1 to Highway Commercial as well. It is a total of about six acres. The staff report said
approximately ten acres. The project has evolved over the past few months. Originally it was going to be
a larger area, but now was around six acres. The proposed expansion would accommodate additional
indoor tennis courts for the Boars Head Club, which would be used for both the Inn's guests and club
members. In addition, the facility would support the men's and women's tennis teams at the University.
Therefore, they were very excited about the proposal. The teams have been practicing there during the
winter and occasionally holding tournaments and matches. It is not really a facility that is as well suited for
these activities as they would like. In addition, by the teams using the courts it obviously takes time away
from the existing members and guests for indoor court time. There has been a very high demand for
additional indoor court facilities, particularly during the winter months and periods of inclement weather.
The proposal is really a net increase of six courts. There are six courts there now with three courts that
are inside of the indoor facility and three that are under what is commonly referred to as the bubble. It is
essentially a temporary seasonal structure that can be taken on and off, but it is not an ideal structure in
which to play tennis indoors. It is noisy and apparently one cannot play at quite the same level that one
can in an established facility. The three bubble courts would be replaced by three new indoor courts. In
addition, between three and six additional new courts would be built. There would be a net gain at most
of six indoor courts. It sounded like the Commissioners were familiar with the proffers, but she wanted to
quickly run through them just to summarize. The applicant has proffered to build the project in general
accord with the conceptual development plan, which was on display. They would be bound to build the
project in general accord as it is shown on that plan. The applicants have proffered to essentially break up
the massing of the building so that it either is made up of a series of smaller buildings or at least appears
to be a series of smaller buildings. That could be done through the use of a terraced roof structure, which
is called the step down finished floor elevations. The building could be built by taking advantage of the
sloping terrain by building it into the side of the slope. By doing that it would make it appear as a series of
smaller buildings rather than one large building. The applicant has proffered not to permit any uses on the
property that are otherwise permitted by right in the Highway Commercial District. Therefore, they have
proffered out the vast majority of by -right uses in the HC District. That really only leaves health spa,
indoor athletic facilities, and some other things like that in support of structures like storm water
management, roads and things like that. Therefore, the applicant is hopeful that will be agreeable.
Finally, in working with the staff and a lot of the neighbors in the area they determined that one of the big
issues that they could perhaps address better was the traffic and parking at the property during periodic
on -site events. There are events held on the site periodically for such things as swim meets, tennis
tournaments and the Boyd Tinsley Invitational Tournament. The applicant has proffered to submit an
event management plan for the Zoning Department's review and approval that would spell out with more
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detail exactly how the parking and traffic would be managed during those events. That would include
things like assuring the use of off -site overflow lots, which are things that they are already doing. The
applicant uses the lots at the golf course and then has folks walk over along the cart paths from the golf
course or they use shuttle buses in some instances. They have an overflow grassy area near the pond
that they use for large events. They have agreed to put something more formal in writing that the Zoning
Department can be agreeable to and have some input on. Therefore, the applicant thinks that will
accommodate a lot of those issues. There are a few other issues that they have worked on that she
wanted to bring the Commission up to date on. The most common thing that comes up is traffic. The
applicant wanted to make sure that there was not going to be an increase in traffic that would cause the
intersections to function at poor levels of service. They wanted to make sure that the road network was
adequate. Therefore, the Foundation engaged an engineering company to prepare a traffic impact
assessment. They were pleased to note that study reported that all of the intersections both internal to the
site as well as several intersections external to the site, such as at the Route 250 intersection and a few
others farther down Route 250, will not be negatively impacted by the project. In fact, all but one of the
intersections even during peak periods of use will perform at a level of service of B or better. There is
only one exception. One intersection will be at a C level during peak periods, which was one of the
internal intersections. But, other than that, all of the other intersections work well. VDOT was comfortable
with that analysis and indicated that the intersection at Route 250 was adequate to support the additional
traffic. In addition, we are hopeful and optimistic that any additional traffic that is generated by the project
will in fact kind of balance out seasonally. Any increase in traffic will likely be due to additional indoor
tennis courts. Those courts are used most heavily during the winter months at which time the outdoor
tennis courts are not used as much. So they are hopeful that because indoor and outdoor courts are not
always used at the same time that the traffic will balance out well. One other issue that they have
addressed in the form of traffic, which is in response to speaking to some of the neighbors near the club,
is that there is an access road that she would like to point out. The traffic comes off of Route 250 down
Berwick Road and would come around and park in this parking lot and access the facility in this location.
This road is owned by Boars Head and is a private road. Deliveries currently use this area as well. One
thing that they have agreed to do is to use that road, which was essentially planned only for an
emergency access road for fire vehicles. The Foundation has essentially agreed to upgrade their plans
for that road so that it can accommodate passenger and delivery vehicles. That way it can be used as an
alternate egress after large events so that not all of the traffic is on Berwick and that some of it can come
around. In addition, the delivery trucks can come in here, make their deliveries, turn around and then go
back out. Whereas, currently all deliveries are using this road.
Mr. Thomas asked if the access road would be open and usable all of the time.
Ms. Long stated that she believed that is the case. It would be subject to County regulations and other
things. They believe that there is space and that it is possible to upgrade that road. Originally, it was only
going to be an emergency egress road. They found that after talking with the neighbors and staff that it
would be nice to have an alternative egress route, particularly during large events. It would be nice to
have the deliveries come in this new route rather than the current route because of the existing
residences that would prefer to have as little traffic along there as possible. The Foundation was happy
to be able to accommodate that request.
Mr. Edgerton asked if that road doesn't ultimately go into Berwick Road anyhow.
Ms. Long stated that it does.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he was trying to figure out how it was going to give any relief from traffic.
Ms. Long stated that it may not help further down Berwick Road, but it was an issue that was very
important to the neighbors who live right in this area. Therefore, the applicant felt like if it was possible to
at least reduce the amount of traffic that was going right behind those houses for delivery trucks that they
were willing to do so. They recognize that it may be that during large events that if they have traffic
coming in here that they may bottle neck on the road. But, at least it will not be a constant stream of
egress traffic on that road.
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Ms. Joseph asked if that was included in their proffer.
Ms. Long stated that it was not included in the proffers. But, the road was wide enough as shown on their
conceptual development plan and they have committed to the neighbors to do that. She noted that she
had prepared some comments as to why this facility would be helpful and important to the UVA tennis
teams and why it was an appropriate use. If anyone has questions, she would be happy to provide some
follow up regarding her comments.
The consensus of the Commission was to have the applicant address those comments. Therefore, Mr.
Thomas asked Ms. Long to elaborate on her comments.
Ms. Long asked why the tennis team wanted to have their facility at this location. She noted that they
think that it is an excellent fit. Obviously, the team has been practicing and playing some matches there
already. It is an efficient use of resources for the club and the tennis club to essentially share facilities and
resources. It is better to build a combined facility that they can share since they don't always need the
facilities at the same time. If the UVA tennis facility built their own facility off site it would create a greater
expense and impact on the terrain. It seemed like a good use of the area. It seems to be working very
well already concerning the relationship. The Foundation and the University are very excited about the
proposal.
Mr. Craddock asked how many additional parking spaces they are anticipating.
Ms. Long stated that they estimate approximately 30, but it is not set in stone. Obviously, they will have
to go through the site planning process and confirm all of that. The parking spaces were shown on the
conceptual plan.
Mr. Craddock asked when people come in on that lower level if they were going to be funneled up to the
front or will they just go to the tennis court that they are looking for.
Ms. Long stated that she believed that was the case, but she was not exactly sure. She pointed out the
location of the entrance to the facility.
Mr. Morris asked what the probability was of getting court time for the current members.
Ms. Long stated that it was extremely difficult. As mentioned, Pat Simpson, the Director of the Sports
Club, is here and could provide more specific information if that would be helpful. It is very difficult and
frustrating for the members to get indoor court time. Of the existing six courts, three of them are set aside
for the UVA team when they need them. Therefore, when the tennis team is using the courts there are
only three other courts, which are in the bubble that are not as good. There is quite a demand. Their
existing membership has been asking for more indoor courts for some time.
Ms. Joseph stated that it sounds like this is not just about tennis courts. There are other uses that the
applicant is contemplating could go into this footprint, which include a multi -sports court, fitness facilities,
a restaurant, a snack bar, a pro shop, administrative office space and a child care facility.
Ms. Long stated that most of those uses were already there now within the existing club. The reason that
they wanted to list those was to make sure that if they ever wanted to rearrange anything they could.
There are existing office spaces there now. There are existing child care facilities. There will be as part
of this what is being termed as a multi -sport court that would be used for things like racket ball and that
sort of thing in addition to the tennis courts. The only other recreational uses that they are talking about
are possibly having a small climbing wall as part of the health club. That is why they wanted to reserve
the right to have other recreational and fitness uses in the existing health club. All of that is currently
contained in this area, which is across the line already zoned. She pointed out the line of the division
between this area, which is zoned Highway Commercial, and this other area, which is zoned R-1. They
tried to stick to those uses that are already in existence and just recognize that those are recognized
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accessory uses to a health spa. That is the zoning category that the Zoning Administrator determined
was applicable for this use.
Ms. Joseph stated that some golf cart trails and the location of a future sand trap were shown on the plan.
She asked if those were existing uses. She pointed out that the word future indicated that they were going
to put that use in.
Ms. Long stated that the cart path itself existed and would remain. They have coordinated and confirmed
with zoning that it is permissible for that cart path to remain and continue to be used as a cart path. The
two new conceptual locations for sand traps are actually intended to benefit the tennis club in an effort to
prevent people from hitting their golf balls towards the new tennis facilities. Their research shows that if
you locate sand traps near where you don't want people to hit that they will hit away from them.
Therefore, they will hit closer to the green. That is part of the plans for the future buffer. There will be
some landscaping. The parking lot for the new facility will be located very close to the fairway. Therefore,
they want to do everything that they can to minimize interference between the two uses. They will be
installing some landscaping and other sort of natural buffers in this location. But, they wanted to make
sure that they had the ability to locate additional sand traps in this area as well because they knew that
was going to be necessary. The applicant has worked through that with the zoning and planning
departments as well. They were comfortable with it as long as it was shown on the plan.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any more questions. There being none, he invited public comment noting
that there were five signatures on the sign up sheet. He asked that the first person signed up, Dillon
Walker, come forward and speak.
Dillon Walker, fourth year UVA student, stated that he was on the Men's Varsity Tennis Team and was
from Houston, Texas. He stated that the first year he was on the team that they were unranked. In the
last three years he has watched as the team has grown. Last year the team won the ACC Championship,
and finished eighth in the nation. As the program has emerged, their goals have emerged. They want to
compete for the ACC Championship and the National Championship every year. One of the things that
are hindering their goal was just the lack of court time in an indoor facility. They have been competing for
time with the members right now. The last thing they want to do is upset these members because these
are the people who come and support the team at their home matches. They want to work it out so that
during the winter months the team will be able to develop their skills as players. All of their competition
has indoor facilities available.
Sally DuBose, resident of Ednam Forest, stated that the proposed project was visible from her house.
Tonight she not only supported the request, but wanted to commend the University for many reasons.
She was not so worried about the court time, but felt that they should be able to continue to be a tradition
of excellence for the youth in the community and to set an example. She could not think of a finer place to
access that, but right there at the Boars Head Sport Club. She supported the request.
Marian Spano stated that she had been a member of the Sports Club for over 20 years, a resident of
Ednam Forest for 15 years and served on the Association Board for several years. She felt that it was a
wonderful idea that the Sports Club enhances the court situation. As a member she uses the courts a lot
in the summer and quite often in the winter time. Between the University students wanting it and the
Sports Club members needing it, this would provide good accessibility for both the club members and the
UVA team. As a member of the Association, they always felt that it was good to be good neighbors with
the Sports Club. Therefore, she was in support of having the UVA Foundation go ahead with the new
facilities and hoped that the Commission will consider it favorably also.
Holmes Brown stated that he was 90 years old and has only been playing tennis 80 of those years. The
program at the Sports Club is improving his backhand. Therefore, nobody should ever give up. He stated
that he had been President of the Ednam Village Owner's Association for three terms. Therefore, he
knew most of the members of the club. He pointed out that his house was the closest possible one to the
tennis courts. He noted that he bought the house on purpose, and he had agreed to sell it when he was
100 years old to another member of the Sports Club. This wonderful community has doubled in size since
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the Sports Club was started, but yet the Sports Club has practically the same facility it had at that time.
The membership has also increased. There just has to be more room so that the members can get the
'SM., tennis that they want. Right now it is very difficult, particularly in the winter, to play tennis. Therefore, they
need those courts.
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Dirk Katstra, Associate Athletic Director and a member of their senior staff, stated that as they look to
expand their program they set some very aggressive goals in the athletic department. They speak to
goals of graduating all of their student athletes to winning championships and to operating with physical
integrity and to building great facilities for both their student athletes and our fans to attend that are in
keeping with the architecture and beautiful nature of our community. Finally, they want to attract top
quality student athletes to our community and University. If you look at this proposed project at the Boars
Head, it really hits on every one of our goals. If you look at the facilities that they have built over the past
several years, such as Scotts Stadium and Davenport Field, those facilities are great facilities. Those
facilities are some of the best in the country. They have a good facility in the Boars Head for their UVA
Tennis Program. This expansion will make it a great facility. It would allow our coaches to compete each
and every year not only for ACC Championships, but National Championships. It would allow them to
recruit not only the best tennis players in the country, but the best students and student athlete tennis
players in the country to our University. It hits on every goal that they aspire to have at this University for
excellence. They shoot every year to have the number one academic institution in the country. As an
athletics program, they want to have that very same goal and shoot to be the "Stanford" of the east since
Stanford wins in almost every single sport. This would help our tennis programs immensely. It would
definitely help the club membership and the Boars Head Inn as a resort. It seems that this would be a
win/win/win for all of the people involved. The Athletic Department wants to look for ways to be
collaborative when they look to build excellent facilities. This is most definitely a joint effort on the Athletic
Department, The Boars Head Inn and the UVA Foundation to provide what he believed to be a
win/win/win for everybody involved.
Derwood Chase, member of the Boars Head Sports Club for over 40 years and a resident of Ednam
Forest, stated that they have had an extreme imbalance between availability in the summer months and
winter. They have all been complaining for years and this seems to be an outstanding opportunity to
bring that back in balance. The traffic problem won't be as great in the winter time even if all of the courts
are built because they would not have the swimmers and there is practically no use of the outdoor tennis
courts in the winter time. From that respect, he did not think that it really changes the overall dynamics of
the area any more than it would in the middle of the summer time when they are able to get courts and
play there. The bubble that is now in his view is a much bigger eyesore than the facilities that they are
proposing to build on a permanent basis. Those of us who play doubles can't play doubles as well in the
bubble. He supported the proposal.
Mr. Morris stated that he had indicated that it was difficult to obtain court time. He asked what the
process was now as a member that he has to go through to get court time.
Mr. Chase stated that right now they had a computer lottery. He noted that one would have to identify in
advance the people that they were going to play with, which in itself was very restrictive because they
usually gather about six people that want to play. Nobody can apply for any other group and are
therefore blocked out of everything else. In other words, you could not be on his list and on somebody
else's list to play on any of those same times. For those persons who are working and can only play late
in the day or in the evening, it was extremely difficult. They use to have an open lottery where everybody
got together, but that was also impossible. The computer just completely takes it over now. Many
persons just don't get a court at all.
Steward Chase supported the project since he saw it as a win/win/win situation. He stated that they
needed to support the tennis teams, but also need to provide court time for the members of the club
Mr. Thomas asked if there was anyone else in the audience that would like to speak on this application.
There being none, he closed the public hearing to bring the matter back before the Commission for
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discussion and possible action. He asked if there was going to be a cart path going into where the tennis
courts were going to be.
Ms. Thomas stated that her understanding was that the cart path was going to stay in the same place. It
will continue to be used as a cart path. It does actually cross a portion of what is being rezoned. In that
sense there is a nonconforming use, which was a question that she had asked Jan Sprinkle because they
were creating one. Normally, they don't like to do that, but it is not the first time that it has been done. It
is well understood what it is all about. That little sliver of property to the east of the existing boundary is
more to provide the required buffer between the Highway Commercial and the R-1, Residential than for
any active purpose. She asked Ms. Long if that was correct that the path was there now and would stay.
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any interconnectivity between the golf course, the parking lot and the
tennis facility of a path or anything else.
Ms. Thomas stated that people use a cart path to get from one to the other and it was pretty common
during these events. As mentioned in the staff report, staff put the applicant on notice that they can't do
much more expansion without a separate dedicated more formulized vehicular entrance to this. She felt
that part of that was dealing with the Ivy Road situation and where a good intersection would be. There
seemed to be some things that are moving towards a consolidated entrance at the golf course entrance
with potentially a signal. There is no guarantee of that until they review the Kappa Sigma property
proposal, but part of it was just figuring out exactly where the best alternatives would be. She felt that
area was maturing in the sense of how the transportation is going to work.
Ms. Joseph stated that on page 4 of the staff report under roads in the last paragraph, staff had said that
service, and/or emergency access currently exists. She asked if there was some mechanism that they
have in some other approval that says that road will continue to be maintained.
Ms. Thomas stated that the reason that they did not write it into the proffers was because they were
dealing with the whole stream buffer issue. Therefore, staff did not want to be too rigid about it in case
there were some storm water issues that they had to deal with in terms of it being a more formal road for
more than service vehicles or emergency access. That was the original thought. During the times of a
whole lot of activity it would be opened up in one way direction and vehicles would exit that way. The
Commission is going to be hearing a request for a critical slope waiver and a buffer modification, which
the Commission has to grant, but she was unsure of that date. That might be an issue that the
Commission can take up with the site plan at that time.
Ms. Joseph asked staff as a planner if she saw the need for this. Since it is in the staff report, is this
something that the Commission should be considering at this point because it was something that they
could not ask for on a site plan.
Ms. Thomas stated that it could probably be requested on a site plan under the safe and convenient
access provision. She felt that it was a very positive thing and that was why she had said it should be
maintained with the club expansion in terms of an emergency use or a special event use. She pointed out
that she did not call for it as being more of a road because of its location near the buffer and she wanted
to try to accommodate Tamara's concerns, too. She would be satisfied if it were used for more of an
occasional use and a service use and not for a formal internal road. She stated that would be an
emergency or special event alternative access or a service use. As a mechanism, it is shown on the
conceptual plan.
Ms. Joseph asked if it was their expectation that it would be maintained.
Ms. Thomas stated that it would be maintained in the sense that it would still be on the conceptual plan.
Ms. Joseph asked if it would have to be maintained in a safe manner so that the road could be used.
Ms. Thomas stated that it was her expectation that it could be used during special events.
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Ms. Joseph asked Mr. Kamptner if they saw this on the conceptual plan if their expectation was that it
would be maintained as a service road.
Mr. Kamptner stated that there was no mechanism in the concept plan itself that requires it to be
maintained, but if it was on the site plan it would.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that he felt that it would be safe to say that if it was on the conceptual plan, then it
would be on the site plan. The site plan requires that these be maintained.
Mr. Kamptner stated that it could not be eliminated without amending the site plan and will be subject to
site plan review.
Mr. Thomas stated that he thought that the answer was that the road would be maintained.
Ms. Joseph agreed with Mr. Thomas, but had one more question for Mr. Kamptner. One of Jan Sprinkle's
comments was about taking the piece from the R-1 zoning and attaching it to the other parcel so that part
of the golf course then becomes nonconforming. She asked if that was anything that the Commission
needs to consider at this point.
Mr. Kamptner stated that they could consider it, but Zoning has looked at it and are comfortable with it.
The concern is if the golf course becomes nonconforming and is a nonconforming use on the HC
property. In this case that means that what the applicant could modify on the golf course on that part of
the HC will be restricted somehow. Given the amount of land involved, it should not be a big problem.
Mr. Morris moved to recommend approval of ZMA-2004-15, Boars Head Inn and Sports Club, with the
proffers set forth in the staff report.
Ms. Joseph seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (5:0). (Rieley, Higgins — Absent)
Mr. Thomas stated that the motion carried and would be heard by the Board of Supervisors on December
8.
ZMA 2004-00013 Mountain Valley Farm (Sign #21, 33 & 83) - Request to rezone 14.176 acres of a
29.75 acre parcel from the PRD (Planned Residential Development) Zoning District to RA (Rural Areas).
The property is described as Tax Map 89, Parcel 73A, is located in the Samuel Miller Magisterial District,
approximately half a mile north from the intersection of Rt. 631 (Old Lynchburg Road) and Rt. 706
(Dudley Mountain Road). The Comprehensive Plan designates this property as Rural Area 4. (Rebecca
Ragsdale)
Ms. Ragsdale summarized the staff report. This rezoning request is to rezone 14 acres, of a 29-acre
property from Planned Residential Development (PRD) to Rural Areas (RA) to allow that 14-acre portion
of the property to be included in a residential subdivision. The rezoning is to bring the whole property into
the RA zoning category. Approval of this rezoning would allow the 14-acres to be incorporated into the
Mountain Valley Farm development as 2 lots (4 and 7 acres in size), a segment of Ambrose Commons
Drive, and small portions of two other lots. The remainder of the parcel is zoned RA. The property is
located off of Old Lynchburg Road and is landlocked. Old Lynchburg Road is in the Neighborhood V
Development lying within the Rural Areas of the County. This property is located in behind a large chunk
of PRD, which would be referred to as the Liberia PRD, which is 200 acres. With the proposed Mountain
Valley Subdivision, the property would be accessed from Old Lynchburg Road along Ambrose Commons
Drive, which is now just being constructed and starts out as part of the Mosby Mountain Subdivision. The
general area across Old Lynchburg Road is the development area. This property of 14 acres is
surrounded by Rural Areas to the north and south and then the remainder of the Planned Residential
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Development in front of it is along Old Lynchburg Road. The proposal is to correct a mistake regarding
ownership. The property was rezoned back in 1977 when the PRD was created. It was not a PRD at that
,*AW" time. It was a rezoned to Residential Planned Neighborhood in 1977. There were several parcels that
were rezoned and this 14 acre portion was thought to be owned by the owners that created the PRD in
1977. Going back to 2004, she pointed out that since that time there was a significant change in the 1980
comprehensive rezoning which took away the application plan that went along with that PRD, which was
approved in 1977. Therefore, they are left with 214 acres of PRD where the conditions of approval apply,
but there is no application plan that applies since the standing of the plan has changed. Therefore, since
that time the ownership issue was resolved and the applicants before the Commission now are proposing
to rezone the 14 acres to RA for a RA subdivision. A preliminary plat was actually approved before it was
discovered that this portion was PRD. In evaluating this project it is being rezoned and the plan is to
incorporate it into a residential subdivision. The Mountain Valley Farm Subdivision would include about 37
lots averaging 14 acres in size ranging from about 2 to 32 acres in size whereas the Planned Residential
Development was approved with a minimum lot size of 40,000 square feet in size. The 14 acre portion
that is PRD could potentially, if it was developed as a PRD, require a rezoning process to provide an
application plan that meets the current standards of the ordinance. It could create about 7 to 8 lots,
whereas with the proposal with this rezoning it would be about 2 lots. So that is the request in summary.
If there are any questions, staff would be happy to answer them.
Mr. Thomas complimented staff on their summary of the request.
Ms. Ragsdale stated that she tried to keep it as simple as possible without confusing them.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for staff.
Ms. Joseph asked if they were only looking at the rezoning request for this and could not talk about the
subdivision.
Ms. Ragsdale stated that was correct because she had only provided the plat so that the Commission
could see what the plan is for those two lots and the proposed access.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any more questions. There being none, he opened the public hearing
and invited the applicant to come forward and address the Commission.
Justin Bates, with Evergreen Land Company, stated that he would like to compliment Ms. Ragsdale as
well because it was a confusing story on how they had gotten here. He pointed out that if the
Commission had any questions, that he would be happy to answer them.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for Mr. Bates. There being none, he invited public
comment from anyone else in the audience. There being none, he closed the public hearing to bring the
request back before the Commission for discussion and a possible action.
Mr. Edgerton asked Mr. Kamptner how this it could have been rezoned back in the dark ages of 1977.
Mr. Kamptner stated that back in 1977 the State law said that any person can apply to rezone property.
The Attorney General had interpreted that literally to mean that someone else could apply to have your
property rezoned. The General Assembly took note and changed the law as to who is eligible to apply to
submit a rezoning application.
Ms. Joseph asked what it does to the existing Liberia PRD to take this piece out of it. She asked if it
would do nothing and they could still come in with an application plan.
Mr. Kamptner stated that it does not affect that. Whatever is remaining in that PRD continues because
that is the zoning.
Ms. Joseph stated that all of their approvals, including the central water, was still allowed and is intact.
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Mr. Kamptner stated that whatever approvals they have still apply.
Ms. Ragsdale stated that was one of the conditions of the 1977 approval, which was that the lots would
be served by central water and sewer. That condition would be addressed if the Liberia PRD comes
forward with the application plan.
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any more discussion or a motion.
Mr. Craddock moved to recommend approval of ZMA-2004-00013, Mountain Valley Farm, with no
conditions.
Mr. Edgerton seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (5:0). (Rieley, Higgins —Absent)
Mr. Thomas stated that the motion carried and would be heard by the Board of Supervisors on January
12.
Regular Items:
SDP 2004-099 Violet Mawyer- Ntelos Cook Mnt. (Sian #88) - Request for approval of a Tier II personal
wireless service facility replacing an existing treetop facility that was approved originally as SP 1998-
00007. The applicant proposes to construct a monopole that would be approximately 120.35 feet tall (10
feet ASL above the height of the tallest tree within 25 feet), with ground equipment in cabinets placed on
a 160 square foot concrete pad. This application is being made in accordance with Section 10.1.22 of the
Zoning Ordinance, which allows for Tier II wireless facilities by right in the Rural Areas. The property,
described as Tax Map 98, Parcel 22, contains 48.83 acres, and is located in the Samuel Miller Magisterial
District on Thackers Lane (State Route 804) approximately 400 feet east of the intersection with Monacan
Trail Road (Route 29 South). The property is zoned RA, Rural Areas and the Comprehensive Plan
designates this property Rural Areas 4. (Stephen Waller)
Mr. Waller summarized that staff report. (See the Staff Report) Staff has identified no unfavorable factors
in this request. Therefore, it is staff's opinion that the applicant's request to allow the monopole at 10 feet
above the tallest tree within 25 feet is also justified in this proposal and recommends approval of the
request.
Mr. Thomas asked if any Commissioner had any questions for staff.
Mr. Craddock asked how long it would take for the old tower to come down once the new tower was
installed.
Mr. Waller stated that after 90 days the applicant would be required to remove the old tower or would be
found in violation of the ordinance.
Mr. Craddock asked if the lease for that site would end and the property goes back to the property owner
or does it remain leased to Ntelos.
Mr. Thomas suggested that Mr. Craddock wait and ask the applicant's representative, Ms. Long, that
question. There being no further questions for staff, Mr. Thomas opened the public hearing and invited
the applicant to come forward and address the Commission.
Valerie Long, Attorney for Ntelos, stated that according to Debbie Balser that they will be terminating the
lease and obtaining a new lease for the new area.
Mr. Craddock asked if the leased area would convert back to regular land.
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Ms. Long stated that was correct. According to Larry Hirschman, Ntelos radio frequency engineer, the
site currently is not operating according to Ntelos standards. This is one of their earlier acquired sites and
the tower provides poor service. They have found a better location higher up on the property with
minimal levels of visibility. The new site is located in a small clearing. The access road will have to be
extended for the new lease area, but they will not have to take down any trees. That is a very positive
aspect of the request. There is an excellent backdrop behind the facility. During the balloon test there
was only one spot on Route 29 just past the driveway where the balloon was visible. But, they had to
drive very slowly, stop the car and get out to be able to see the balloon. The balloon will be visible from
Mr. Thacker's adjacent property, but he is in favor of the request. Mr. Thacker requested that Ntelos
install a small directional sign on the property in order that Ntelos workers would know how to get to the
tower. Ntelos is very willing and happy to do that. There is a very minimal amount of visibility. There is a
backdrop of trees from Route 29. The tower will only be visible right at the driveway at Sprint Mountain
Farm. The facility itself is 775 feet from Route 29 and is in the range of 700 feet from Mr. Thacker's
house. The Commission has photo simulations in their packet showing 7 feet above the top of the pole to
the tallest tree versus 10 feet above the tallest tree. The applicant hopes that that the Commission will be
supportive of that. The ordinance provision states that the facilities are to be 7 feet above the tops of the
tallest trees unless the Commission concludes that the applicant has demonstrated that at 10 feet above
there will not be a material difference in visibility. Therefore, they tried to use those photo simulations to
demonstrate that the with two difference heights there will not be a material difference in visibility. She
hoped that the Commission would agree with that. With the amount of backdrop that was provided from
those very few instances where you could actually find the balloon when traveling on Route 29 or from
any adjacent properties they think that the wooded backdrop very well provides excellent camouflage and
would not result in any material impact on visibility. As she has spoken to the Commission on several
occasions, those 3 extra feet are tremendously significant when it comes to the quality of the signal. With
a tree top tower design like this every foot of clearance between the bottom of the antenna panels and the
tops of the trees is very significant. So the difference at a facility that is 7 feet above the tops of the trees
versus 10 feet above the tops of the trees is really quite significant when it comes to coverage from Route
29 and many of the roads in this area. The roads are relatively narrow, curvy, winding with mountain in
the way and with foliage close to the road. It is a very difficult area to provide wireless coverage. Again,
every foot in height is very significant. She hoped that given the visual evidence that they have provided
as to the difference in height and visibility that the Commission will agree that it merits approval at 10 feet
above. In addition, the applicant had a tree arborist study the soils on the property and to try to give them
some idea of how fast the trees were going to grow on this property. This letter concludes that most likely
the trees will grow about 3 inches every year. That is a significant amount of growth. Ntelos would like for
this facility to work well as long as possible and not have to replace the pole any time soon. The
engineers conducted a periodic drive test of the site to test the level of the signal at various points along
the coverage objective. The applicant has some data that can plot out how much the service signal has
deteriorated over the last four years as the trees have grown. It is really quite significant. In 2001, the
coverage was at least marginal and it worked. Then over the next few years the coverage just really
deteriorated as the trees grew. They have always assumed that tree growth was going to be an issue,
but it really took a few years of having sites actually built and operational and having time for the trees to
grow to see how much of a difference that would really make.
Mr. Thomas asked Ms. Long if she had been involved with any towers that had to be elevated due to the
growth of trees.
Ms. Long stated that she had not personally, but she had been told that Ntelos has started that process.
She pointed out that that the applicant looked at that process for this facility. But, they determined that
even if they could resurvey the trees and confirm that if the trees had grown 6 or 7 inches, in theory the
way the special use permit conditions were written they could have then increased the height of the pole
by an equivalent amount. They determined that because this site was really located in too low of an
elevation. Even if they raised it as high as they expected that they would be permitted to be able to raise
it by right, it still would not provide the level of service that they needed. They really needed to move the
entire facility to a higher elevation point where it could be more functional. The new facility will be far less
visible than the existing one. In one of the pictures the Commission can see the existing facility fairly well.
The new site will be located farther back into the trees and would even be less visible from on the site.
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Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for Ms. Long.
Ms. Joseph asked if they knew if this would work at 7 feet above the trees.
Ms. Long referred the question to Ntelos' engineer who has been looking at this issue. She felt that it will,
but it does not work at nearly the same level and quality of service. She introduced Larry Hirschman who
is a RF engineer for Ntelos. She pointed out that Mr. Hirschman corrects her that when she stated that
the arborist has stated that the trees would grow 3 inches per year that it was actually 3 feet. She
distributed copies of the letter from the arborist, Bartlett Tree Experts. (See Attached letter from the
arborist, Bartlett Tree Experts.)
Larry Hirschman, engineer for Ntelos, stated that as Ms. Long stated they have system drive tests that
they started back in 2001 in the third quarter. They did a drive in 2002 in the third quarter, 2003 in the
third quarter and 2004. The receipt level that they obtained on Route 29, which was the drive route, was
significantly deteriorated year after year.
Ms. Long stated that she thought the question was would the proposed facility work at 7 feet above the
tallest tree as opposed to 10 feet above the tallest tree.
Mr. Thomas stated that the Commission was looking for a justification for the 10 feet.
Mr. Hirschman stated that if the tree growth is 3 feet per year that even after the first year it was already
deteriorated and it would not work. In 2001 they had a good signal, but in 2002 the coverage was
deteriorated enough that the quality of it was not up to their design standards. It deteriorated even more
with each additional year, and that was due to the tree growth.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he did not think he had answered Ms. Joseph's question. He stated that the
Commission has not had enough history to know whether the existing tower could be extended. The
question was whether the tower would work at 7 feet right now.
Ms. Long stated that it was her understanding that it would work marginally well, but it would not meet
their standards. She pointed out that Mr. Edgerton was correct that the way the ordinance is written it
says that the facility should never be more than X feet above the top of the tallest tree. So if in five years
Ntelos has evidence demonstrating that the trees have grown say 5 feet they can administratively
increase the height of the facility by an additional 5 feet. She noted that while that seems to be something
that is not a big deal that it is actually a significant endeavor. It is very expensive to do and involves
construction on site again with all new cables for the facilities. That is not something that would be an
option once the trees have grown significantly because, in essence, the facility's carriers don't want to do
that every year. It is not feasible to make them do that every year. They prefer to not start out with a site
that works marginally. They want a site that is going to work well from the beginning. Given the standard,
it talks about no material increase in visibility. She felt that particularly with this site there is so little
visibility at all and where there is any visibility there is wooded backdrop from all locations. She felt that
this is one of the best sites that they have ever brought to the Commission in terms of visibility.
Therefore, she felt that it really warrants 10 feet above. It would seem to be a shame for Ntelos to go
through the process of replacing this facility and the expense associated with it to end up with a facility
that is only going to work marginally maybe for a year or two before they have to extend it again.
Mr. Morris stated that in reading over the staff's information it seems that during the balloon test the
balloon at 117 feet was not visible at all. He asked if that was correct.
Mr. Long stated that the balloon test was conducted at the proposed height of 120 feet.
Mr. Waller stated that at the time the balloon test was done this request was being reviewed as a special
use permit. There was no requirement to show the difference between the 7 and the 10 feet.
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Ms. Long stated that the applicant provided the photo simulation. They had a graphics expert take the
digital photograph and take the red balloon out and replace it with the proposed pole. He adjusted the
proportions so that he could show it 3 feet shorter.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any further questions for the applicant. There being none, he invited
comments from other members of the public. He stated that Cheryl Thacker was the only person signed
up to speak.
Cheryl Thacker stated that she was the daughter of Harold Thacker who was the owner of the most
adjacent property and the one that is actually affected the most by the request. The owner of the property
that the site is actually going on does not live on the property. Therefore, she is not affected by the
request at all. The tower will be visible from their property. She stated that her father had indicated that
there was no problem in seeing that because they have seen the two towers that are up there now for the
last two years. Their concern is the construction of the actual antenna itself and the actual getting to the
proposed site. The access way to that site is steep. There are concerns about the equipment being able
to get into that area. What they have seen with the past two tower installations has been that any
equipment has to be unloaded in their driveway, which is actually a state maintained road, in order to get
the equipment up to the site. Even then there are issues when it is winter time if there is snow on the
ground, if it is muddy or whatever the case may be. They end up pulling the equipment up to the site with
other equipment. There are access issues there concerning this request. As the owner of the property
that is going to be affected by that, they want to make sure that Ntelos knows that regarding the state
maintained highway or driveway that comes up into their property that they don't want to see that used as
the unloading or the storage of their equipment on it. Certainly there is 48 acres on the adjacent property
that they can pull the equipment up on. Therefore, that is their concern about it. She felt that since the
site was higher up on the mountain that there were going to be greater access issues. The other
concerns the Commission has already seen in the proposal and in the staffs findings.
Mr. Thomas asked if in the previous construction of the other towers if there was any trespassing on their
property at that time or did they get permission to be on there.
Ms. Thacker stated that sometimes they came and asked and sometimes they did not. There were
several times that the people did not know where they were going so they just ended up on their property.
Because they have rather large equipment if they come all the way up to the end of their road then the
only choice they have is to back down the road. Backing a tractor trailer down a road that has a heavy
piece of equipment on it that is only a size of a car is not good. They have ended up storing stuff on their
property such as poles. They have kept equipment on the side of the road and things like that. They have
some concerns about those issues.
Jeff Werner, Piedmont Environmental Council, stated that he did not have any direct objections to a tower
on this land, but the fact that it is adjacent to land that is under a conservation easement made him want
to bring some issues up that need to be looked at and discussed. The discussion is that this tower is
necessary relative to service on the Route 29 corridor. But the tree that is dictating the height of this
tower is uphill from this tree away from Route 29. Therefore, he was not sure how the tree that is uphill no
matter how fast it is growing in how it is disrupting where it is trying to reach down on Route 29 unless it is
trying to shoot up and across the mountains, but it does not appear tall enough to do that. The reason
that he is concerned about this is if you look at the topography and the property to the south, which is
under easement, it starts to push this thing up above that tree line and his photographs in his sample are
not good enough to look at it. He stated that he did not want this uphill tree to artificially allow the raising
the height of this tower to allow the argument that this tower should be taller and then suddenly it
becomes far more visible from the parcels under easement to the south. Again, the staff report does not
identify that this is visible, but it is suggested that it is probably invisible. He asked that the Commission
was cautious that maybe in the future that they line up these maps and look at where the topography is
that he realized that this is an adjacent tree and a tall hill, but it is uphill. He pointed out that one of the
trees downhill was actually 20 feet lower than the tower. He suspected that as the grade falls away that
some of these trees are much shorter than this proposed tower height. Therefore, that is just a
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perspective there. If this 10 feet is so critical because of this one single tree, he just wanted to make sure
that does not get used over and over again.
Ms. Long asked to respond briefly to the 2 comments that were made, particularly Ms. Thacker's
comments. She spoke briefly with Debbie Balser who was on site during the balloon test and met with
Mr. Thacker during the balloon test and she has assured him that she will have their construction
engineer on site at all times during the construction to ensure that none of the problems that existed with
either of the prior facility installation by Ntelos or with the Nextel facility installation, which Ntelos has no
control over. Ntelos is obviously very respectful of Mr. Thacker's property rights and their concerns and
frustrations of the things that have gone on in the past. Also, Ntelos has agreed to install the directional
sign on the site to direct the maintenance and construction traffic. They are hopeful that the sign on sign
will go a long way in addressing that problem as well as good communication with all of Ntelos
contractors, subcontractors, maintenance crew, etc. To respond to Mr. Werner's comment, she herself
had been curious about what some of the heights of some of the trees are. Unfortunately, the plans did
not show the height of all of the trees that were within a 50 foot radius. She asked the engineer to provide
her with the measurements of some of those trees. Since she did not receive that information until
yesterday she did not get a chance to revise their plans to show it. She pointed out the reference trees,
which was the tallest tree within 25 feet that Mr. Werner alluded to that is uphill. She has shown that it is
102.8 feet tall. The proposed facility would be 10 feet higher than the top of that tree. In addition, there
are these two trees that are down the hill from the facility, in essence between the facility and Route 29.
This tree is 123 feet tall and has a top elevation of 967.6. Therefore, the difference in height will be less
than ten feet with this tree. Similarly this one is 123 feet with the top elevation at 965.7. Therefore, this is
not the only tall tree in the area. This is the reference tree that will dictate the height of the facility during
its operation, but these trees are equally tall and will be a problem. That is another reason why it is so
important to Ntelos that the facility be approved at 10 feet above the top of the tallest tree rather than 7
feet above. Even at 10 feet above the margin between these two facilities it would really only be like 7
and 9 feet. If you reduce the approval to 7 feet above the tallest tree, the distance above the tops of
these trees is reduced to about 4 and 6 feet. So it really becomes very significant, particularly the one
that is 4 feet above. The panel antennas are 5 feet long. If the facility is approved at 7 feet above, about
1 foot of the antenna will be lower than the top of this tree.
Mr. Edgerton asked if she was figuring anything in for the contours.
Ms. Long stated yes that she was. This is the top elevation that was based on the difference in base
elevation.
Mr. Edgerton stated that the proposed tower looks like about another 10 feet above those two trees that
she was referring to.
Ms. Long agreed.
Mr. Edgerton asked if she was not counting that.
Ms. Long stated that she has factored that in. She agreed that the tower was at a higher elevation than
these 2 trees and that he was absolutely correct. But, again the regulations speak to distance above the
top of the tallest trees. Therefore, despite the fact that these are on the lower elevation, they are actually
taller than the pole. The pole height is 120.35 feet and the trees are 122 and 123. Obviously, even at 10
feet above the pole elevation top of it will be 974.9. By comparison the top elevations for these trees,
which are at a lower elevation, are actually taller. The trees are still shorter than the pole, but they are not
10 feet shorter than the pole, which is her point. She asked if that addressed Mr. Edgerton's concern.
Mr. Thomas closed the public hearing to bring the matter back before the Commission for discussion and
a possible action. He stated that the 10 foot antenna seems to be the question. He asked if it
demonstrates satisfaction to the Commission that it is warranted.
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Mr. Edgerton asked if staff would discuss the fact that the 7 feet was picked as something that they would
be comfortable with as being by right. It is obvious that the tower would be better if it was higher. He
asked if they should just go back and rethink the ordinance and allow it to be 10 feet. He stated that he
was missing the reason.
Mr. Thomas stated that the applicant has demonstrated that the backdrop is very good on this proposal.
Mr. Edgerton agreed with him on this particular request, but was wondering why the 7 feet was locked in
on.
Mr. Thomas stated that was what the Commission had recommended for the policy and the Board had
approved it, but the decision making power came back to the Commission. If there is justification for it
and they demonstrate to the satisfaction of the Commission that there is not a material difference in the
visibility of the monopole at the proposed height, then it is at their discretion. He asked if that was correct.
Mr. Waller stated that was correct.
Mr. Craddock stated that there was a grounding rod of 18 inches on the top of the pole.
Mr. Waller stated that the grounding rod is exempt. During the Board's discussion, it dealt with the effects
on the signal and whether the strength of the signal would be diminished. The Board threw that proposed
language out. Then the Board created this language, with staffs help, that talks about the material
difference in the visibility. One of the things they would look at is whether at 10 feet the tower would be
sky lighted above or visible above the tops of the trees as opposed to the 7 feet, and things of that nature.
That would probably be the most telling factor in whether there is a material difference.
Mr. Thomas stated that was the way that it reads in Section 5.1 of the ordinance.
Mr. Kamptner stated that a body of principles will develop, which staff will use to develop guidelines to
help them do the analysis in the review. It might take a few more applications before a common theme
develops.
Mr. Edgerton stated that there were two other points that were brought up. He felt that Mr. Werner's
comments were pretty logical. He wondered why a tree 7 to 8 feet higher by elevation is used. It is out of
the area that they are trying to send a signal. He felt that they need to focus on that one in future reviews.
The final point that he was concerned about was the prior problems with the trespassing occurring on the
Thacker's property. He felt that it was good that they had been reassured that the Thackers were not
going to be trespassed upon. He suggested that if the Commission approves the request that a condition
be added that requires the supervisor to be on site
Mr. Waller stated that the last two facilities that were installed had wood monopoles. This kind of gets
back to the previous discussion that they had with the Board of Supervisors in that only wood monopoles
would be allowed by right. But they had a lot of voices from the industry who were saying that with a
wood monopole that there comes a lot more disturbance. When a metal monopole comes to a site it
comes in sections. There have been instances, such as Verulum Farm, when a wood monopole has had
to be placed along the side of the road due to the difficulty to getting it to the site. The monopole had to
stay along the side of the road until they could get a road that was adequate enough to get it up to the
site. They had to remove some trees. From the standpoint of moving ability, even though a metal
monopole may have that potential of being reflective and having a reflective coating that would be seen
from certain angles, the industry has indicated that it is easier to bring in two 50 foot sections than it is to
bring in a 115 foot wood monopole. Staff discussed this issue with Mr. Thacker in the field.
Mr. Thomas stated that it makes sense if the terrain is too rugged that sections are better than one entire
expanse of a pole.
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Ms. Joseph supported this request because there was no sky lighting and apparently it is not going to be
visible. Staff has been all over looking at the balloon and making sure that it is not visible. Also, the
Nka., properties that they are looking at the balloon are those with easements and in the staff report it states
that it is staffs opinion that the views of the proposed facility would be obscured from these eased
properties. Because of all of that, she supported the 10 feet versus the 7 feet.
Mr. Morris concurred with Ms. Joseph.
Ms. Joseph moved for approval of SDP-2004-099, Violet Mawyer — Ntelos Cook Mountain, as submitted
to allow the monopole to be 10 feet above the tallest tree within 25 feet.
Mr. Morris seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (5:0). (Rieley, Higgins — Absent)
Mr. Thomas stated that the motion carried.
SUB 2004-00302 Chestnut Ridge - Request for preliminary plat approval to create a 20 lot (19
development lots and 1 preservation tract) Rural Preservation Development. The total acreage of the
subdivision is 204.47 acres. The property is zoned RA, Rural Areas. The property, described as Tax
Map 19, Parcels 20, 20B & 24, is located in the White Hall Magisterial District on Buck Mountain Road
(State Route 663) just south of its intersection with Simmons Gap Road (State Route 663). The
Comprehensive Plan designates this property for Rural Area uses in Rural Area 1. (Yadira Amarante)
Ms. Amarante passed out two items to the Commission. She summarized the staff report. This is a
request to create a Rural Preservation Development consisting of 20 lots with 19 development lots and
one preservation tract on 204 acres, zoned Rural Areas. The property consists of 3 existing parcels as
stated in the staff report. All 3 parcels were parcels of record in 1980. Therefore, all 3 parcels have all of
wrw their available development rights. Staff has looked at this request for compliance with the Rural
Preservation Development parts of the ordinance and also for the Subdivision Ordinance. Staff
recognized that it meets all of the requirements of the Rural Preservation Development and the
Subdivision Ordinance. There are a few small issues. One is that the 3 parcels by right could do 21 lots,
and they are only proposing 20 parcels. There is an outstanding issue about the additional development
right that needs to be allotted. Therefore, one of the conditions staff is recommending basically states
that development right has to be put somewhere on one of those lots so that it is just not floating. Staff
ran across this in The Rocks and several other circumstances. Staff just needs to deal with it. The other
issue that is specific to this parcel is that back in 1993 there was a special use permit that was issued for
a barbershop on parcel 24, which is still being as such. Usually staff does not approve preliminary plats
with a special use permit, especially since this one had a condition that the property could not be further
divided. The Zoning Administrator is totally comfortable with staff recommending approval of the
preliminary given the special circumstances of this particular owner knowing that they have to come back
and amend their special use permit to either get rid of that condition or get rid of the special use permit
altogether. The owner is here if the Commission has any questions related to his intents. Also, the
surveyor and applicant are here. Staff finds that this Rural Preservation Development meets all of the
intents of the ordinance and recommends approval with several conditions.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for Ms. Amarante.
Mr. Edgerton stated that there is a statement under the reason for Planning Commission review which
says that the reason for Planning Commission review is that the Rural Preservation Development aspect
of this proposal is discretionary. He asked what that meant.
Ms. Amarante referred the question to Mr. Kamptner.
Mr. Kamptner stated that the review is ministerial in nature. What the Commission is doing in this process
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is determining whether of not the provisions of the ordinance have been satisfied. This would be the
same thing staff does for a site plan or a subdivision plat. The Commission would be making a factual
1144w' determination that this particular application meets the requirements of the ordinance.
Ms. Amarante stated that language is probably left over from before July from those other staff reports
when it was discretionary.
Mr. Thomas asked for some explanation about the one development right that is left over. He asked if it
was the Commission's responsibility to assign it or does the applicant have to assign it.
Ms. Amarante stated that the applicant has to pick some place to put it on. It is just an outstanding issue
that they have not figured out how to deal with it. The ordinance does say that they have to account for
these development rights. Therefore, it is just a condition of approval.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any other questions for Ms. Amarante. There being none, he opened the
public hearing and invited the applicant to address the Commission.
Roger Ray, land surveyor and planner, stated that he did the plan for the applicant, Ted Costnex who was
the contract purchaser on the property. He stated that he was sorry that Mr. Rieley and Ms. Higgins were
not here tonight because he was here to try to support a portion of the ordinance that he felt was very
important, which was Rural Preservation Subdivisions. There are basically three ways that they can get
land into conservation or preservation easements. One is with the County's method of purchasing
developing rights. Over the past few years the County has not been able to do too many because it is
very expensive. The cost of that comes out of the taxpayer's pockets. But, you can get easements on
land that way. The other way is through the purchase of conservation easements through the federal and
state government. In that they are paying immense amounts of money to get these development rights
through conversation easements on land. He pointed out that he was not arguing whether it is good or
bad, but was just saying that was the way that they were doing it. The third way is with a Rural
1%W Preservation Subdivision. Just recently they were discussing that it was by right or by special use
approval through the Commission. It should be the by right way in Albemarle County to divide land. It
should be the preferred desired way to develop land. It works extremely well on parcels of land that
range from probably 100 to 300 acres. If you get parcels much less than 100 acres, this minimum of 40
acres seems like it does not work as good. It allows between 12 and 20 lots within the subdivision, which
allows you to cluster and most of the time use less than one-half of your land. Then you end up with a
large parcel in the preservation tract. In this case, they were ending up with 56 percent of 200+ acres in
the preservation tract. Over one-half of this will be in the preservation tract, which will be greater than
100 acres. Therefore, it works really well. Not all properties within Albemarle County will lend to Rural
Preservation. Sometimes it is difficult to find a place on the property to actually cluster your lots and be
able to shorten the roads and have them all in a cluster to leave some open space. This particular parcel
of land fits almost perfect for a rural preservation. Today it consists of two farms. Mr. Wood owns the
front farm. Mr. Roberts, his brother-in-law, owns the other parcel. Both of those properties are working
farms. One parcel still has cattle and livestock on it. But, Mr. Roberts sold his livestock about two
months ago in anticipation of this sale. The Rural Preservation Subdivision will cluster all of the lots up
close to the public road, which minimizes the length of the roads. It also allows the lots to be located in a
compact area. More than 100 acres will be preserved in the back preservation area for farm land. A lot
of that area has stream buffers located on it. The most critical areas and the best farm land that is being
used today are in the rural preservation area. Again, this particular project works very well for a Rural
Preservation Subdivision. The by -right development of this property would require a lot more area for the
roads, which would actually have to go in some areas of stream buffer. Therefore, this should be a Rural
Preservation Subdivision. Regarding the one left over development right, they were under the
understanding that they were limited to 20 and that they could not regroup this development right unless
they did a standard development. But, they have been told that according to a previous decision that had
been made by the Zoning Administrator that they have to assign it. Therefore, they would chose one of
these development lots to add that division lot to just because they are told that they are required to do it.
Mr. Thomas asked if there were any questions for Mr. Ray.
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Ms. Joseph stated that on the plat that he talks about the easements that exist on the property. She
pointed out that she only saw an easement for Virginia Electric and Power and Virginia Telephone. She
assumed that they were not conflicting with anything.
Mr. Ray stated that there were two dwellings on this property for Mr. Roberts and Mr. Wood. Those are
the easements that were created for those two dwellings to stay.
Ms. Joseph stated that there was also a road that comes up through the back. She asked if that road
would be abandoned as a result of this or does it serve that back parcel.
Mr. Ray stated that it would probably not be abandoned, but it was the access that Mr. Robert's used to
get to his dwelling now. But, once this internal public road is built that by your ordinance all of these lots
have to enter that internal public road. With the new division, all of the lots will get access from the public
road.
Ms. Joseph stated that if they just give something a development right it does not mean that you can
subdivide it, but it means that you could have two dwellings on it.
Mr. Ray stated that he felt that was possible because if they assign a development right that under the
ordinance they could probably have two dwellings.
Ms. Joseph stated that as long as they have the available acreage.
Mr. Kamptner stated that it would have to meet the zoning setbacks and other regulations.
Mr. Ray stated that they would assign the extra development right and figure out if it could be used.
Mr. Thomas asked if there was anyone else present in the audience that would like to speak regarding
this application. There being no one, he closed the public hearing to bring the matter back before the
Commission for discussion and a possible motion.
Mr. Edgerton moved for approval of SUB-2004-00302, Chestnut Ridge Rural Preservation Development,
with the conditions recommended in the staff report.
The Division of Zoning and Current Development shall not sign the final subdivision plat until the following
conditions have been met:
1. A completed application and fee for erosion control and storm water management. [17- 203, 17-303]
2. A storm water management/BMP plan, computations, and maintenance agreement. [17-203, 17-303,
17-304, 18-32.7.4]
3. An erosion and sediment control plan, narrative and computations. [14-311, 17-203, 18-32.7.4.3]
4. Road plans, pavement design sheets, and drainage computations. VDOT approval will be required
for the public roads. [14-512,14-304,Policy]
5. [14.302.o] All existing development rights are not being utilized by this proposal. Allocate the
additional development right to one of the development lots by placing a note on the plat to that
effect.
6. [14.303.m] Note #5 must be revised to state "Roberts Lane and Cleopatra Court..."
7. [14.309 & 310] Written approval from the Health Department for all drain field locations.
8. [10.3.3.3.f] Approval and recordation of a preservation easement by the Public Recreational Facilities
Authority for the Preservation Tract.
9. SP 93-26, a Home Occupation Special Permit for a barber shop granted by the Board of Supervisors
on 12/8/93 must be vacated or amended by the Board of Supervisors, through the normal SP
application process, prior to final plat approval.
Mr. Morris seconded the motion.
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The motion carried by a vote of (5:0). (Rieley, Higgins —Absent)
Mr. Thomas stated that the motion carried.
Old Business
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any old business. There being none, the meeting proceeded.
New Business
Mr. Thomas asked if there was any new business. There being none, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment:
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m. to the December 7 meeting.
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon Claytor Taylor, Recording Secretary.)
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