HomeMy WebLinkAbout04 26 2005 PC MinutesAlbemarle County Planning Commission
April 26, 2005
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting and a public hearing on Tuesday, April 26,
2005 at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia. Members attending were William Rieley, Rodney Thomas, Marcia Joseph, Vice -
Chair, Jo Higgins, Pete Craddock; Calvin Morris and Bill Edgerton, Chairman. Mary Hughes was present
for David J. Neuman, FAIA, Architect for University of Virginia.
Other officials present were Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning & Community Development; Francis
MacCall, Senior Planner; Bill Fritz, Chief of Current Development; Mark Graham, Director of Community
Development; Judy Wiegand, Planner; Kamptner, Assistant County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Edgerton called the regular meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. and established a quorum.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Mr. Edgerton invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. There being
none, the meeting moved on to the review of the Board of Supervisors Meeting.
Review of Board of Supervisors Meeting — April 20, 2005.
Mr. Cilimberg summarized the actions taken by the Board of Supervisors on April 20, 2005.
Consent Agenda:
Approval of Planning Commission Minutes — December 14, 2004; March 1, 2005; and March 15,
2005.
Mr. Edgerton asked if any Commissioner would like to pull an item off of the consent agenda for
discussion or if there was a motion.
Mr. Morris moved to accept the consent agenda as presented.
Mr. Craddock seconded the motion.
The motion carried with a vote of (7:0).
Items Requesting Deferral:
ZMA 2004-023 River's Edge Commercial Park Office (Signs #48&55)- Request to rezone 1.818 acres
to amend the proffers of ZMA 2001-09 to waive the requirement of a sidewalk on the south side of the
access way. The existing zoning is CO, Commercial Office and is proposed to remain CO, Commercial
Office. The property, described as Tax Map 78, Parcel 58H is located in the Rivanna Magisterial District
on Stony Point Road (Route 20 North) approximately 1/4 mile north of the Route 250/Route 20
intersection. The Comprehensive Plan designates this property as Regional Service in the Pantops
Neighborhood. (Elaine Echols) APPLICANT REQUESTS INDEFINITE DEFERRAL.
Mr. Edgerton stated that the applicant had requested indefinite deferral for ZMA-2004-023, River's Edge
Commercial Park Office.
Mr. Rieley moved to accept the applicant's request for indefinite deferral of ZMA-2004-023, River's Edge
Commercial Park Office.
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Mr. Morris seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (7:0).
Mr. Edgerton stated that ZMA-2004-023, River's Edge Commercial Park Office was indefinitely deferred.
Regular Items:
SUB 2005-061 Haffner Farm - Request for preliminary plat approval to create 11 lots with a public road
on 156.81 acres. The property is zoned RA, Rural Area. The property, described as Tax Map 60, Parcel
2A is located in the Jack Jouett Magisterial District on Barracks Road (Route 654) approximately .10
miles from the intersection of Barracks Road and Colthurst Drive (Route 1001). The Comprehensive Plan
designates this property as Rural Area. (Francis MacCall)
Mr. Fritz summarized the staff report. This is a proposal to divide a 156 acre parcel, which is located on
Barracks Road essentially across from Colthurst Subdivision. The property essentially runs from Barracks
Road to Ivy Creek. The proposal is to divide this property into 11 lots to be served by a new proposed
internal public road. All of the lots would access that public road. This parcel is a residue piece of a
division from 1991, which was left with the development rights. The site has currently been cited for
violation of a provision of the Zoning Ordinance and the Erosion and Sediment Control provisions. The
subdivision application has been reviewed by the members of the Site Review Committee for compliance
with the provisions of the Subdivision and Zoning Ordinance and found to be in compliance with those
provisions as they relate to a subdivision. Staff is recommending approval subject to the conditions listed
in the staff report. If there are any questions, he would be happy to try to answer them. There are
various staff persons available to answer any questions about the erosion control issues or the zoning
violations on the property.
Mr. Edgerton asked if there were any questions for staff.
Mr. Rieley stated that before they get into any detail about the zoning violations or the erosion control
measures he would ask Mr. Kamptner to tell the Commission whether they have any pertinence.
Mr. Kamptner stated that this question comes up periodically, but it is usually not with subdivision plats.
But, the question is always whether or not the Commission has any authority to deny a subdivision plat if
there is an existing violation of the Zoning Ordinance. He reviewed the Subdivision Ordinance once again
this afternoon, along with the case law and the Attorney General's opinions, and found there is no
authority under the Subdivision Ordinance or under State law for a locality to deny a subdivision plat on
the basis of an existing zoning violation. The Subdivision Ordinance repeatedly refers to determining
compliance with the requirements of the Subdivision Ordinance, which includes a cross reference to
compliance with all requirements of the Zoning Ordinance, except those related to lot size and things like
that.
Ms. Joseph asked if the approval needs certain things to happen, such as the erosion and sedimentation
plan approval, in order for the road to be approved. If she had a subdivision to be approved and it has a
road shown in a certain location, but went ahead and put the road in without an erosion and sediment
plan being approved, would there be any connection between that and the subdivision proposed.
Mr. Kamptner stated that the violation stands on its own. He pointed out that the proposed road seemed
to satisfy all of the requirements of the Subdivision Ordinance. In addition, it triggers compliance with the
Water Protection Ordinance, and they have to satisfy that as well.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he had one question for Mr. MacCall. In the site review comments the existing
driveway is shown on lot 1. There was a very specific suggestion that the property line for lot 1 be
adjusted so that there would not be any confusion about whether that would be used for access to any of
the lots. He pointed out that there is a note on the plat that says that all lots must access off of the new
road.
Mr. MacCall stated that staff suggested that note so that the existing driveway would be on the lot that it
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would serve, which would be tax map 60, parcel 2. He pointed out that the applicant did not come
forward with that on their revisions.
Mr. Edgerton stated that would involve an easement across lot 1.
Mr. MacCall stated yes, that they would need to plat an easement since it was shared and the property
line goes down the middle of the existing gravel driveway. It would probably need to go up to the
driveway that veers off to the house. The final plat would then reference all of the lots accessing the new
road that are within the subdivision. Some measures could probably be taken to ensure that it was not
continued to be used, whether it was by removal of the road that goes beyond that existing driveway into
parcel 2 or blocking it off in some way.
Mr. Higgins asked if it would need to show that there is an access to another property when this lot is
created to show an access easement even on the one-half of the road that is there.
Mr. MacCall stated that was correct.
Ms. Higgins stated that when a property owner buys the property that they would need to make sure that
it is not impacted.
Mr. MacCall stated that his suggestion to alleviate that would be to do a boundary line adjustment to put
that whole road on parcel 2.
Mr. Edgerton stated that suggestion was made to the applicant. He pointed out that what Mr. MacCall is
saying is that they chose not to take that suggestion.
Mr. Rieley stated that there is no ordinance requirement.
Mr. Edgerton opened the public hearing and invited the applicant to come forward and address the
Commission.
Michael Barnes, of C.W. Hurt Contractors, stated that he did not have anything else to say. He stated
that he would be happy to answer any questions that the Commission might have.
Mr. Edgerton asked Mr. Barnes to tell the Commission a little bit about the violation because it seems
rather extreme.
Mr. Barnes stated that he would have to plead a little bit of ignorance on that. Some of this stuff just
cropped up and came to his attention during the past couple of weeks. He stated that he had been
working on the subdivision aspects of it. Steve Melton has been working with some of the zoning
violations. To his understanding the violations fall within three categories. There is some trash and debris
that was put on the property and part of that was a shed or a building. He pointed out that he just found
out what building they were talking about tonight from the zoning staff. From the aerial photo the building
appeared to be small enough to be like a small shed, which was on the back side of the property. He
stated that he could not begin to guess the reasons for the actions that were taken out there.
Mr. Edgerton stated that there was also a violation on the entrance road.
Mr. Barnes stated that the other zoning violation includes the location of 46 trailers on the property. As
you all may or may not know, Dr. Hurt buys a lot of stuff at auction and he has been storing them in
tractor trailers. This was previously stored in town until they were told that it had to be moved. He pointed
out that he thought this site was where most of them ended up. As far as the erosion and sediment
control, the first thing he did was contact Mark Graham to tell him that they were going to cut an entrance
off of Barracks Road, which they did. He pointed out that they tried to keep it under the 10,000 square
feet for that first bit there. He thought that they got up to 1,500 square feet for the entrance road aspect
of it, which was where Dr. Hurt would like to have the entrance to his farm. In many respects this thing is
being driven for him because it is a place that he wants to have for his personal home and it is his desire
just to keep things moving. That is why they did the initial cut onto Barracks Road. They talked with
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VDOT and worked with some site distance issues and got the necessary VDOT permits. Again, they
were trying to keep it under the 10,000 square feet. Obviously, in that first initial one they got up to about
" 1,500 square feet. As far as the dirt that has been placed back, which has created the violation, he
actually did not have anything to do with that. That sort of cropped up on its own. The fill that is there is
for a stream crossing that will eventually go in. There is an intermittent stream where this road goes back
that he has worked with the Corps of Engineers to get a permit for. They have that permit in hand. That
fill is to help create that crossing. As soon as they found out about the violation for that they immediately
got an erosion and sediment control plan to the County. That has been at least three or four weeks back
now, but they have still not heard what they need to do to abate that violation. With the initial road cut
into there they put in silt fences and other measures. He stated that maybe the engineering department
can speak to that. With regards to the drainage area that was coming to that point, they have tried to
keep it out of the stream by putting in some silt fence. There was a silt fence installed around the stock
pile. Again, they were working with the County to do whatever mitigation measures that there need to be
done to bring that into an erosion and control plan for that stock pile. They have also submitted another
plan for the road crossing or the stream crossing to continue the road up the hill.
Mr. Edgerton opened up the public hearing, which he had failed to do earlier
Ms. Higgins stated that she had a question about the point where it shows the pipe as you come in that
shows the new 100 foot stream buffer on the right. There is no extension of the 100 foot stream buffer on
lot 1 to the left of the drive. It is numbered page 9 on attachment C, but it is actually sheet 3 of 7.
Mr. Barnes asked if her question is should that 100 foot buffer continue on the upper side of that road.
Ms. Higgins stated that based on the topo there is a defined stream and a 20 foot drainage easement on
the right hand side, which she assumed was the outflow side even if there was a 100 foot box out on the
other side. If the stream magically starts at the outlet of that pipe, it would go 100 foot back from the
outlet of that pipe.
Mr. Barnes stated that was a point well taken and that they will correct that on the plan.
Mr. Fritz stated that it may not be correct on here because he did not know if there was a determination
made about where the stream starts. But, he sees the channel on there and thinks that it probably does
go further.
Ms. Higgins stated that if it just happened to intersect what you are calling the head stream, it would still
be a 100 foot box out on the upstream side.
Mr. Barns stated that obviously what they need to do is bring it back to almost where you see the deed
book reference underneath the power line, which is about where that stream is coming out. Therefore,
that buffer should be extended up through there.
Ms. Higgins stated that someone who purchases lot 1 might not recognize that and fill in that area to build
something for horses. If the buffer was not there, it may be confusing.
Mr. Barnes stated that they would be happy to add that.
Mr. Rieley stated that it was a good catch.
Ms. Higgins stated that the lot 1 is really close to the existing road as it diverges from the driveway next
door serving Tax Map 60, Parcel 2. That existing driveway is running really close to the defined building
lot and it would probably make sense that some note be put on the plat that they must use the public
road. Just so that, again, someone that gets it does not decide that they can get a back entrance and a
front entrance.
'Ar., Mr. Barnes stated that he felt that note was already on the plan.
Mr. Edgerton stated that note was already on the plan as note 13. He pointed out that lots were
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misspelled since it says "all lost." He felt that item needed to be addressed.
A Mr. Barnes stated that where that building site ends up probably would be more down by the new road
anyhow judging by the topography that you actually have on the site.
Mr. Edgerton asked if there were any other questions for Mr. Barnes. There being none, he asked if there
were anybody from the public that would like to address the Commission regarding this application.
There being none, he closed the public hearing to bring the matter back before the Commission for
consideration and action.
Mr. Craddock pointed out that he would like to ask a question about why there were no County signs
posted on the subject property advertising that there was something going on. He stated that he visited
the site last Thursday and did not see any signs.
Mr. Fritz stated that the signs are not posted for subdivisions or site plans. The signs are only posted for
special use permits and rezonings. He pointed out that notice is given to the adjoining property owners
by mail regarding subdivisions and site plans.
Mr. Kamptner stated that the posted signs are a requirement of the County Ordinance, but are not
required by State law. It is something additional that is provided.
Mr. Craddock stated that somebody could go by there everyday and not know that a subdivision is going
in until it actually happens.
Mr. Kamptner stated that was correct, except for the adjoining owners who would get some written
notification at some point in the process.
Mr. Craddock stated that the thing about the violations with the subdivision is that it applies to the by right
division as well as for other subdivisions.
Mr. Kamptner stated yes. Just to give the Commission a broader view, the State law was changed a few
years ago giving us the authority to not issue any approvals where the owner has failed to pay property
taxes. The Zoning Ordinance was amended to include that authority. But, the General Assembly has not
given us the authority to stop processing plats where there are existing violations on the property.
Mr. Edgerton stated that no matter how Albemarle County might feel about it that there was nothing that
they could do to remedy this situation.
Mr. Kamptner stated that it was one of the limitations that they had to deal with under the Dillon Rule.
Ms. Higgins stated that zoning still has the enforcement based on the emails that she received that was
proceeding.
Ms. Joseph stated that maybe so, but here is a method to actually deny something because they have all
of these violations on the property and there is no way that the Commission can do anything. It just
keeps on.
Mr. Edgerton pointed out that Mr. Barnes had stated that they had wanted to keep this going by putting in
the entrance, but that was last August.
Mr. Morris asked if the issue of affordable housing has been raised in this particular instance as it has in
others.
Mr. Fritz stated that it was not an issue that they bring up in by right subdivision site plan reviews except
where they are requesting a density bonus, which they are not eligible for in the rural areas.
Ms. Joseph asked for Mr. Graham to come up to answer a question. She asked if he knew what was
happening here in terms of the erosion and sediment control.
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Mark Graham stated that he did. There are two applications that have been made to the County under
*sow the Water Protection Ordinance for erosion and sediment control. One has to deal with the waste area to
permit a waste area, which is clearly an allowed activity in this zoning district. Staff is proceeding with the
review of that plan. The second plan submitted was the second erosion and control plan, which has to
deal with putting the road in. It was called a driveway, but it was essentially the road as shown on the
preliminary plan. Staff is not reviewing that plan, but has returned that to the applicant as not being
accepted for two reasons. One, as Ms. Higgins clearly pointed out and staff has noted to the applicant,
there is a stream buffer issue. A stream buffer mitigation plan would have to be reviewed and approved
by the County prior to a crossing there. The other is under the erosion and sediment control provisions of
the Water Protection Ordinance, Section 204.e, if the owner is required to obtain approval of a site plan or
plat, which for the road to serve the subdivision you are, the Program Authority shall not approve a
erosion and sediment control plan until that site plan or plat is approved as provided by law. Therefore,
staff feels that we cannot approve that plan as it was clearly part of what is being proposed with the
subdivision plat.
Mr. Rieley stated that he certainly hopes that these violations are aggressively pursued, but clearly the
venue for that pursuit is not the subdivision process. Because of that, he moved for approval of SUB-
2005-061, Haffner Farm, with the staffs recommended conditions in addition to the extension of the
stream buffer along the lines that Ms. Higgins pointed out.
1. The final plat will be subject to the subdivision requirements of Section 14-206 of the Subdivision
Ordinance.
2. Health Department approval is needed for soil evaluations for all lots within the subdivision.
3. Approval of a final Tier 3 groundwater plan.
4. Approval of an erosion control plan, narrative and computations.
5. Approval of road plans, pavement design sheets, and drainage computations.
6. Approval of a storm water management plan and computations (a detention waiver is not inferred
with this approval and will be considered during review of the storm water management plan).
7. VDOT approval will be required for final subdivision plans and computations.
8. VDOT requires that it be determined if the existing guardrail in the proximity of the entrance and
taper will need to be adjusted.
9. An extension of the 100 foot stream buffer on lot 1 to the left of the street shall be noted on the
plan.
Ms. Higgins seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (6:1). (Ms. Joseph — No)
Mr. Edgerton stated that SUB-2005-061, Haffner Farm, was approved with condition.
Worksessions:
Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission Hazard Mitigation Plan — Worksession to discuss
the Albemarle County portion of the region's Hazard Mitigation Plan, developed by the Thomas Jefferson
Planning District Commission. The Hazard Mitigation Plan identifies actions to be taken to reduce or
eliminate the risk to human life and property from natural disasters. The Plan was prepared with input
from the Charlottesville U.Va. Albemarle Emergency Services Center and Albemarle County staff.
Possible mitigation options are cataloged under: Education and Outreach; Policy, Planning and Funding;
Information and Data Development; and Structural Improvements.
Mr. Cilimberg introduced Bill Wanner, Senior Regional Planner from the Thomas Jefferson Planning
District Commission, who can talk to the Commission about the study so that the Commissioners are
aware of the process that they were envisioning here. Mr. Wanner can provide a few of the details.
There has been an effort ongoing for a while to develop a Regional Hazard Mitigation Plan. A committee
has been working with that. He pointed out that he has been working some with that group, but it is most
importantly the emergency providers who have in particular have worked on the details. Tonight they
would hear an overview of the results of that work and most particularly how they have applied it to
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Albemarle County. A public hearing has been scheduled for the Planning Commission. One of the
requirements is that this plan be adopted in a similar fashion to a Comprehensive Plan by each of the
counties in the Planning District. Therefore, the Commission and Board of Supervisors will hold a public
hearing on the Regional Hazard Mitigation Plan in May and June. He asked Mr. Wanner to explain what
it is all about.
Bill Wanner stated that he worked with the Thomas Jefferson Planning District. He recognized Nicole
Gilkeson, who is a second year graduate student in Planning at the University and also a FEMA
Community member, for her work with them for an entire year on the mitigation strategy plan. The
summary that is included in their agenda is an excellent starting point and he would not belabor some of
the things that are there already. But, he just wanted to recognize that not only do they value the
importance of identifying, assessing and seeking to reduce the loss of life or property from natural
disasters, but they have somewhat of a self serving purpose of doing this as well. The plan is not
required to be adopted by localities, but FEMA requirements now necessitate this plan being adopted
before any grant applications are made to them. Therefore, both pre- and post- funding through FEMA is
contingent upon an adopted plan. So that is our pecuniary reason for preparing and adopting the plan.
As Mr. Cilimberg as said, the involvement has been primarily through the Emergency Services
Coordinator, Kay Harden. His committee, which is the Emergency Planning Committee, is a large group
of citizens and staff that comes together monthly. They have met with them several times with their
working committee. Therefore, they have a very close working relationship with Mr. Harden and his
group. As Mr. Cilimberg said, he has been involved with their working committee, as has Paul
Muhlberger from Public Works, and, of course, Kay Harden. Therefore, they are really just trying to
introduce the topic to the Commission tonight and let them recognize that the key part of this plan is really
under the mitigation strategies that begin on page 37.
The other three major parts of the plan, the Hazard Identification and Analysis, the Vulnerability
Assessment and the Capability Assessment are really analytic mechanical measurements of the
likelihood of different disasters occurring in this area based on previous history and the estimates of the
total losses to life and property based on those. Not surprisingly that ranking list gives floods the top
need in our community followed by winter storms, hurricanes, tornados, high wind and drought. With
those in mind and recognizing that is really what the thrust of the first part of the plan does, what really is
the more subjective or flexible part of the plan is indeed the mitigation actions that are summarized
beginning on page 37. Those are broken in to four basic categories being: structural, which is physical
projects that they expect will reduce the likelihood of impacts from natural hazards; education and
outreach, which speaks pretty much to itself; policy planning and funding, which is how they would put
some of these strategies into existing and future plans; and information and data development, which was
a matter of developing additional information and data to refine the hazard assessment and mitigation.
The project list is really the key to this. The mitigation action projects are really the only thing that
Albemarle County will adopt of its own versus by State mandate to be a regional project. They are only
asking each locality to adopt the mitigation strategies that are specific to their community. Again, he
reinforced that with the Albemarle staffs participation and the Emergency Services Coordinating
Committee, he felt that they have understood quite a bit of what is important to the community in general.
He stated that he would like to also just mention the implications of what the adoption of this plan are.
The intent is not to recognize or intend to do all of them, but one to identify the things that are ongoing so
that they have a measure of success when they are completed; and two, to again posture ourselves for
the possibility that we may be able to fund some of these projects that are not able to now be funded.
FEMA requires that they do an annual report that is basically an evaluation of their progress in meeting
these mitigation actions. For those that they are falling short or finding delays that they look at a way to
overcome those obstacles. But, the reality is that if funding is not sufficient to do a project that is a clear
reason for that obstacle being in the way. Therefore, that is the quick take, but they will be back on May
10 for a public hearing and a consideration of adopting a plan and recommending it to go forward to the
Board of Supervisors.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he had a question on these mitigation actions there is a line item on most of
them with an estimated cost and the cost were rather nominal until you get to the back of the packet.
There are some substantial numbers of 120 million dollars for implementations and recommendations to
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the water supply study and another 10 million dollars for phase 2 to upgrade Raggy Mountain and so on.
At the same time there is an ongoing public discussion and the Supervisors are trying to sort out the
*AW appropriate direction to go as far as dealing with our water issues as a community. He stated that he was
wondering what impact, if any, that the adoption of this document on the implementation or whether that
would be best on them to address things in this manner.
Mr. Wanner stated that certainly he felt that the possible negative would be that if in fact the Board of
Supervisors decided not to pursue it in the specific way that it was addressed here, then they recognize
that the policy changes have occurred and then they would move this in the direction that is more
consistent with the policy recommendations. He pointed out that they would then do that.
Mr. Edgerton stated that they would then adjust this to fit with what they are doing.
Mr. Wanner stated that was exactly correct. He stated that they would do an annual evaluation where
they might recognize this. Then every five years the plan is updated. Therefore, that would be the time
to be more comprehensive about that. The up side is that if it is consistent with the policies that the
Board adopts, then they have the opportunity to fund this through some of the funding streams that are
available for mitigation actions. From that perspective it could be very helpful.
Ms. Higgins stated that she looked at this a little bit differently than he did because she thought that it was
going to be more of a work session for input. She has always looks at it as fire and flood and all of the
other things in between seem to be planned issues. Then there are issues such as water supplies that
apply to growth, and there is a process for that with a lot of projections. What really came home to her in
the mitigation action lists, which is the first and second ones on page 48, was that the wild fire and the
use of recreational trails as fire breaks where it has the estimated cost of none. She questioned that
because doing that does cost something, but she was not sure how to measure it. Also, there is one
above it that says estimated cost as unknown. Actually, she did not know that clearing a lot of dead wood
from forests is actually something from a governmental perspective because it is almost something that
property owners need to do. It has been brought home to her by several people. During the last five
years there has been the three year drought and then almost two years now of obsessive rainfall. There
have actually been twisters out on the west side. She pointed out that her property had been hit with one
that twisted a lot of trees. She felt that there is a gap in the education for the people who are putting their
property in conservation easement to maintain forestal property in that they have forgotten that it takes
maintenance. While riding horses through these areas she has been impressed with the excessive
amount of trees that are not piled on them and the forest bottom is gathering debris. It is almost
impassable in places where it did not use to be. So she did not know how in these mitigation acts since
that particular one seems to be mixed up with a lot of governmental type of analysis. Really that is a
function of education to tell each and every property owner that your forest is not self -maintaining. If the
wood gathers on the floor of the forest and there is any idea or possible wild fire that the fire would be
more dramatic. She asked if this was an instrument that they were going to use. But, that under
education or some list they have it lumped together so that you have to read through all of them and she
always looked at it as something that you would have to implement. She suggested that there could be a
summary of breaking this down. She asked if as part of this report they could make it more applicable by
having the mitigation actions in some sort of table and then next to it lists the Virginia Department of
Forest. She felt the individual property owners need to be mentioned.
Mr. Wanner stated that he agreed with her suggestion
Ms. Higgins stated that was her fire concern. She stated that next was her flood concern. On page 29
under the dam failure section, it is obvious that someone counted the dams that could fail. There are nine
and that only five have emergency action plans. One dam does not have a plan and the other three do
not require a plan. She felt that it would be extremely helpful, although it would add length to their report
because there is a big gap there, to list the dams. Since they have the data she felt that it would be very
useful. She asked if there was an upper Ragged Mountain and a Ragged Mountain.
Mr. Wanner stated that there is an upper and lower dam.
Ms. Higgins stated that the upper Ragged Mountain dam does not have a plan, but she did not see it
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mentioned in the mitigation. She asked if it was something that she missed.
Mr. Wanner stated that it does not seem that she did because it does not appear that as though they
need to be specific on those areas that have a plan where they have the possibility of failure.
Ms. Higgins stated that what brought this home to her was that a few years ago Sugar Hollow had a flood.
At that time the whole idea of getting people out and how many properties were accessed during the flood
was brought up. It has been a number of years ago now and the properties are starting to change over.
When dams are affected and with the extreme wet weather that they are having that is possibly one of the
most important parts of this report. That one seems to be a lower priority in the report.
Ms. Gilkeson pointed out that what the Commission has is a summary of the plan, but the entire plan is
on the website and it does have a list of all of the dams. She stated that she would double check that to
make sure, but that the first draft did have a list of all of the dams. It is just a summary in relation to
Albemarle, but they have a map with all of the dams in the region and their hazard of high, medium and
low as they pose a threat.
Ms Higgins pointed out that a lot of people are just going to read the summary. When you start
mentioning numbers like 9, 5 and 3 you immediately want to know which one whether you would be
affected. She pointed out that was what she was looking for.
Mr. Wanner stated that it might be helpful and valuable to cross reference that in the summary.
Ms. Higgins stated that if the upper Ragged Mountain dam does not and it does not fall in the category
here it does not require it, then it probably should show up under a mitigation action and whose
responsibility it is to have a plan. The plan is usually pretty simple and straight forward and has to do with
who is affected downstream and that sort of thing. She pointed out that the rest of the plan was very
good, but that she had just dwelled on fire and flood. She felt that it boils down to the fact that the
emergency responders were predominantly going to respond to fire and flood. She pointed out that they
don't run out there is the water supply gets low.
Ms. Gilkeson stated that there is an action item that is education and outreach for fire wise workshops on
page 40.
Ms. Higgins stated that particular item on the clearing of the forest was almost important enough to
consider in Albemarle County when they send out the tax bills to put one paragraph on the one sheet of
information that goes out. The paragraph could say that if you own forested land and if you are
accumulating a lot of debris, be aware that this kind of thing has happens. There are a lot of forested
areas on the west side that are becoming prime candidates for something like that to happen.
Ms. Joseph stated that there is another way that people look at trees falling in the forest. It also provides
food for the woodpeckers, bugs, and bunnies. It also provides shelter and protects the habitat of the
forest.
Mr. Wanner felt that was why it was important to do an education piece on it. He felt that it was going to
have to be a voluntary.
Mr. Thomas asked where the funding was going to come from.
Ms. Gilkeson stated that there were a series of different grants available from FEMA. They have also
looked at other sources such as any other federal programs that offer any type of funding. One fund is
the Pre -Disaster Mitigation Grant is relatively new. It comes around once a year and is a competitive
grant. The Hazard Mitigation Grant Program opens up as soon as a disaster hits in the state of Virginia a
percentage of that money, which is between 7 and 15 percent. That money opens up and is available
specifically for mitigation money. Then the Virginia Department of Emergency Management will delegate
that funding. Because they have projects listed as being appropriate for that they would be eligible for
that.
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Mr. Wanner stated that they would be back before the Planning Commission on May 10. They have
already begun the advertising for that public hearing. He suggested that the Commissioners visit their
website at wwanner(a-)-TJPC.org to get the full unfiltered version of the plan. He asked that they look at
number 2 on page 48 at the top mitigation action, which strikes him as more educational than structural.
He agreed with Ms. Higgins that it was out of context and that they would provide a summary for the
mitigation actions in a more readable form. This is basically a FEMA outline and that they are required to
follow this template. They will fill in the dam failures with some specifics and cross the reference the data
that they have. They will talk with staff about the possibility of doing some of the public education things
through the County newsletter.
Ms. Joseph stated that at one point David Hirschman was working on a report that talked about debris
flow. She pointed out that she did not see anything about debris flow in this and wondered if it was
something that they looked at. She questioned if they should look at that.
Mr. Rieley stated that there was a section on landslides and land stability.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that would be the same. He asked Mr. Wanner to check to see whether he has a
copy of that report that David Hirschman had done a few years ago. It was presented to the Planning
Commission during a work session at one point.
Ms. Joseph stated that the report was wonderful because it showed certain areas and designated those
on a map of Albemarle. She felt it they had already spent that money that it ought to be used.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that it would be a document to reference from something like this. He stated that he
would provide a copy to Mr. Wanner if he did not have a copy.
Ms. Joseph stated that she had a couple of comments that she would email to Mr. Wanner.
;% In summary, the Planning Commission held a work session on the Thomas Jefferson Planning District
Commission Hazard Mitigation Plan. Bill Wanner discussed the Albemarle County portion of the region's
Hazard Mitigation Plan, which was developed by the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission. He
explained that the Hazard Mitigation Plan identifies actions to be taken to reduce or eliminate the risk to
human life and property from natural disasters. The Planning Commission made the following
suggestions:
• Discussion should be held with staff about the possibility of public education regarding this plan.
• Mr. Wanner to check through materials and make sure that he has a copy of the debris flow
report done by David Hirschman several years ago.
• The Commissioners were requested to review the entire plan that was located on the web site
under TJPC.org. Any further questions or comments should be emailed to wwanner@TJPC.org.
The Commission and Board of Supervisors will hold a public hearing on the Regional Hazard Mitigation
Plan in May and June.
Northern Development Areas Master Plan - This work session is to provide a status report on the
Master Plan process and discuss representation on a Master Plan Advisory Committee. (Attachment —
Executive Summary dated April 26, 2005 for Northern Development Areas Master Plan Project Status
Report)
Mr. Cilimberg introduced Judy Wiegand who is the project manager for this extensive look at a large area.
Ms. Wiegand stated that she would provide an update on two companion projects being the Northern
Development Areas Master Plan and also the US 29 North Corridor Transportation Study. The project
has a new name: Places 29 Creating and Connecting Communities in Northern Albemarle, which
hopefully will help catch the public's attention. That will be the overall title for the Master Plan and a good
portion of the transportation study. It is a combined planning process for the two reports. The advantage
of that combined process, of course, is that it will enable us to coordinate the land uses along Route 29
%WP1 with what is being done for the improvement of the traffic in the corridor. The goal of the Master Plan
portion of this is to encourage development and redevelopment in the four development areas while we
protect the County's rural areas. They are looking to find out how to provide a quality of community that
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will make the corridor an attractive place for people to work, live and shop.
The participants in this process are County staff, The Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission, a
team of consultants, the Virginia Department of Transportation, and the City of Charlottesville. The
Master Plan will cover 4 of the development areas, Numbered 1 and 2, Hollymead and Piney Mountain.
The plan covers 4 of the magisterial districts. In Rio it will include development areas 1 and 2 and part of
Hollymead. In Rivanna it will include part of Hollymead and Piney Mountain. It will include a small area in
Jack Jouett. In White Hall it will include the airport.
The transportation study is going to look at Route 29 North from the City of Charlottesville line all the way
North to the Green County boundary, which is about 11 miles. This continues the work that has been
touched on in 2 previous studies. They were known as the 29H250 Study Phases 1 and 2. Although this
study is being called the 29 North Corridor Study, it is not really being considered a phase 3 because it is
looking at the whole corridor. The transportation study is going to include transportation model
component that will enable us to learn how many vehicle trips go through this corridor every day and
when the congestion is at its worst. It will be doing more of a destination study of how many trips are
regional, that is when both ends of the trip are outside of that corridor. Also it would include how many
are sub -regional, which either begin or end in the corridor but the other end of the trip is somewhere else.
Lastly it would include the truly local trips where both ends of the trip are within the corridor. Each of
these types of trips is going to want different things. The regional people obviously just want to get
through the corridor. The local people are looking for access. They expect that the results of the Master
Planning process might be different for the 4 development areas. They might see that the more urban
ones 1 and 2 might have one set of recommendations and there may be some differences for the
recommendations made for the Hollymead and Piney Mountain area.
One of the most important features of the planning process is that they are going to have a very lengthy
public participation and information program. This will under the direction of Lee Catlin who is the
County's Community Relations Manager. She was going to be here this evening, but was unfortunately ill
today. The second major feature would the Citizen's Planning Academy just like they had before the
Crozet Master Plan started. It will be held on Thursday evening May 12. The time and place will be
announced on the County's website. The first public event in the process will be a Community Visioning
Charrette that is going to be held on Wednesday, May 25 at the Sutherland Middle School. The time will
be announced on the website. They are also very aware of the regional nature of this project because, of
course, Route 29 serves all of central Virginia. Route 29 actually goes from somewhere in Alabama all
the way up to Baltimore. Therefore, some of the traffic on Route 29 is regional and it is very important
that what they do to help the local traffic will also help the regional traffic. If they try not to do that or if
they forget that they are suppose to be doing that, then VDOT has promised to remind us. They are
considering, for example, the bypass that has been proposed in the past. It will be included in some of the
modeling runs that the transportation consultants do. She asked if there were any questions before she
asked the Commission help set up an advisory committee.
Ms. Higgins stated that the bypass that she was referring to Alternative 10. She pointed out that her
understanding is that it is not in the transportation plan for the area any longer. She asked if that was
correct.
Ms. Joseph asked if they were revising it.
Ms. Wiegand stated that it was actually not in the UNJAM plan.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the only thing that was in the TIP any more is paying for the right-of-way
acquisition.
Ms. Higgins asked why if it was not in the plan then why would they spend time, effort or money modeling
for it. Basically they would be taking an action in a staff master planning that recognizes something that
potentially maybe should not be recognized.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that he should probably answer this one because it is not an element of the master
plan work that they are doing and that we are funding. It is an element of the transportation work
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associated with Route 29 that the Planning District has funding from VDOT to do. VDOT has insisted that
the modeling of the potential traffic be included so that all scenarios are analyzed.
Ms. Higgins asked what if they insist that it not be included.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that he could not answer that question.
Ms. Higgins stated that she was just being consistent with the history behind how it came about today that
they are probably based on this information that they are getting may be forward something through to
the Board.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the Commission was more than welcome to do that. The MPO Policy Board has
actually reviewed this and the scope of study has been before them numerous times for the 29 Corridor
Study. They have signed off on that scope. That includes two Board of Supervisors members in the
voting represented at the MPO, which includes Sally Thomas and Dennis Rooker. He felt that there was
some understanding at least on their part of what the study is all about. He stated that this is not about
establishing a bypass route. But, the modeling of what that traffic might be has been an element that has
to be included as part of the overall work.
Ms. Higgins stated that it was her opinion that if you model it and show its effect you have acknowledged
it again. She stated that she was not saying this to argue with staff. But maybe the members of the
Board of Supervisors that signed off on the scope possibly have a different perspective. She felt that it
was still something that if they go down that road in a 29 Study then that analysis could actually go back
and support the bypass again. She asked to stress that concern by allowing it to go to the Board and
maybe the two supervisors are thinking about it differently. She felt that if they model it that they may end
up with a reaction to it.
Ms. Joseph agreed that the full Board should know that this is happening because she was shocked.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the Board would have this before them next week as well as an update on the
process.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he would like to go a little further than that to see if there is enough sentiment in
the group to pass a resolution asking them to reconsider this. He questioned using the taxpayer's money
to study a plan that the community has said they don't want.
Mr. Thomas asked if the reason they were using it was because of the money that was provided from the
TIP end of it.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that he could only say that he was not sure of the answer of that. The TIP has been
very strategically addressed by the MPO for several years to specifically to say they are not putting
money into building a bypass and they will agree to the monies that are necessary for the commitment of
acquisition of right-of-way and that is it. That is the extent of what the TIP calls for. This study very
honestly has to recognize not only the local issues but the regional issues as Ms. Wiegand explained.
VDOT is a primary funding source here. As with all VDOT studies in transportation they are going to want
to look at all possible scenarios. He thought that there is a feeling with the MPO, based on sitting in their
meetings and listening to them talk, that this is a study that has the opportunity to show how there can
solutions in the corridor that will not necessitate any longer considering a bypass. He thought that they
believe that there is the possibility of closing the door altogether on the bypass issue.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he thought that they have already done that.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that if you listen to the General Assembly of Virginia it is not closed at all. He stated
that we cannot sit with our heads in the sand because there are delegates and senators around Virginia
that will force it on us.
Ms. Higgins pointed out that was because it was regional.
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Mr. Cilimberg stated that this is an attempt to make sure that they are also addressing the issues that are
outside the area that very honestly could be more powerful than what they have here locally. Therefore,
he felt that there was a real feeling that this is an attempt to find solutions that close the door on the
discussion of the bypass and the consideration of the bypass not just here, which we feel like we have
done, but Statewide. Let's remember that VDOT is a State Agency funding a large part of this.
Ms. Higgins stated he was right because the analysis of that could go either way. But by always talking
about the Bypass that it becomes short sighted that they are not looking for the other alternatives to that.
In other words, does the bypass have to be that one in particular?
Mr. Cilimberg stated that it was not about Alternative 10. But, this was about what would be necessary if
there was going to be an attempt to bypass the study area.
Ms. Higgins stated that then being clear about that if you have money in the TIP that you can buy land for
a specific alignment and then over here you are studying a way to get around the local area in a regional
mode then everybody draws that conclusion. Maybe it would take a lot of reinforcement that it talks about
taking regional traffic out of the local corridor, but maybe not on a particular route. It is a shame that they
are not looking for other alternatives.
Ms. Wiegand stated that she thought that they are. The full scope of work is very clear in the report that
they are looking for alternative roads for local traffic so that it will take some of the local traffic off of Route
29.
Ms. Higgins stated that she understands all of those levels, but she was just saying when the word
bypass comes up it is kind of a hot topic. There are more traffic signals driving to 66 on 29. There are
more traffic signals in almost every local community now. The corridor of 29 is slowing down and slowing
down. It just is not here. She pointed out that she acknowledged that fact.
yamW Mr. Cilimberg stated that one of the problems that they face in the discussions about 29 when they get
beyond this area, very honestly because he has been in many of these meetings, is that those folks don't
look at it the same way that we do. The County has a road that is trying to serve many masters and it
can't be everything that it is trying to be and be good at any of it. If we feel that we have ideas here in this
region that are solutions to a regional concern, then we need to identify them and show that they can
work or else we will constantly be in this discussion about whether or not Charlottesville should have a
bypass. Route 29 has to be complemented by other transportation solutions that can be potentially
identified within this study area that don't have to be about a bypass. But when 29 is only getting more
and more lanes because you don't have any other way to go north -south through this area they are
inviting that criticism from the region beyond us. That is why it is so important that they look at this. He
stated that he did not think that there was any interest on our part to be looking at why or why not we
should have a bypass. He felt that from our position here in the County that has been conveyed very well.
He felt that our interest is as a community is looking at what are the alternatives that we can provide
within this community. It is kind of like trying to find the alternative to water supply that we have control
over and not the water alternatives that are out of our control, which has been a big topic of discussion
here in the last several months regarding our water supply plan. He felt that for us this study is all about
looking at solutions that are in our area.
Ms. Wiegand stated that they need solutions that they can pay for that and can be implemented in a fairly
short length of time that have a lot of local support. Once you get them on paper you can show them to
those other communities out there after, of course, they have gone through the adoption process here.
They will then have a very convincing argument that there is another way to do this.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he hoped that she was right. He stated that he hoped that rather than relying on
the Board reading the minutes and hoping that they get the message that he would like personally to see
some statement made by the Commission about their concern about this being the part of the taxpayer's
study for Albemarle County. There are two different studies. As he understood it they have the Thomas
Jefferson Planning District Commission and the Master Plan Study. From a planning perspective he was
delighted that there was going to be coordination. That is good and he did not want to see that
abandoned. But at the same time when we start getting into the State perspective it takes on a whole
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different dimension. From a planning perspective he was concerned that could take all of the energy of
this effort and they would not have a solution to what he had lobbied hard to be the next Master Plan. He
stated that he did not want to get lost in this because there is many other issues other than the 29
Corridor that need to be addressed. With that in mind he pointed out that he had two questions. He
invited other Commissioners to speak to the 29 Study if they so desired. At the bottom of the first page
staff mentions that letters will be sent to all property owners in the northern development area. It is
mentioned that there are a whole lot more affected parties. This study area is truly our main stream.
There are a lot of other people that don't live in this specific outline that are going to be tremendously
affected by this. Therefore, he was hoping that there will be a vehicle to get community wide participation
by possibly going a little further. The Crozet model is maybe not a fair one because that only affected the
folks in the western part of the County on the 250 Corridor. He hoped that they might be able to get
creative in trying to figure out a way for some outreach for the greater community of Albemarle County
and the City.
Ms. Wiegand stated that the City was already involved.
Mr. Edgerton stated that he was glad that Mary Hughes was here representing the University. When the
study refers to drawing the line at the City/County line he gets concerned when they talk about the
University. All three of these entities have to be a part of this study. He asked how that was going to be
addressed in this study. He acknowledged that the Commission only represents the County, but asked
how they could make this a community plan because it really needs to be that.
Ms. Wiegand acknowledged that was very important. Staff has coordinated this with the City and VDOT
by attending the meetings and being part of the management team. They are using the information from
them in their GIS mapping. They are looking beyond the edge of the study area to see what impacts will
be outside of it. As far as the land use map that they prepare, it will only cover the County because it is
the only area that they have the authority over. But, it will be done with the support and coordination with
the City. As to his earlier question about the other people in the County, yes they do recognize that in
those development areas they have a lot of people who are affected who don't necessarily live there or
who don't own businesses there. There will be advertisements in the newspapers for all of the public
meetings and there will be a website for the plan, which is actually being set up now. There will be a way
for people to find out about the meetings and other information. They are identifying stakeholders
throughout the area, which could be owners of shopping malls even if they don't have an address in the
area, and they will be contacting them as well.
Mr. Edgerton asked what participation staff envisions the University playing in this.
Ms. Wiegand stated that they have been invited to all of the early meetings to set up the scopes. They
have met with the consultants with everyone else and they will continue to work with them to get their
advice, input and review of documents. They will be receiving the same internal memorandum that
everyone gets from the transportation modeling, for example. They are on the list of stakeholders.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that he had an opportunity to talk with Mr. Neuman about actually doing a
presentation. He pointed out that he was going to talk with Ms. Wiegand about helping out with a
presentation for the PACTECH for their upcoming meeting.
Mr. Thomas asked Ms. Wiegand if on the regional part if the Thomas Jefferson District Commission and
Green County be included in this. He pointed out that whatever they do in the 29 Study that it was going
to affect Green and Madison County.
Ms. Wiegand stated that she had spoken with Harrison Rue the Executive Director who is the project
manager for the 29 Corridor Study. They both have agreed that they need to talk to the other counties
along the line and the communities like Lynchburg, Culpeper and Danville. At this time she has gone
through and started analyzing what is out there and who they might contact. They are waiting until they
have a little more information such as the early results back, for example, from the modeling before they
+„r actually go out and talk with them. She stated that Green County was on the list.
Mr. Thomas stated that if they are going to Master Plan Neighborhoods 1 and 2 that they need to
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acknowledge that US 29 is the catch all for the 29 Corridor. He stated that he lives out that way and that
it is a busy highway. Route 29 is going to continually be a US highway going right through the middle of
their commercial district. He suggested that parallel roads could possibly be made off the side to
complete that business district. He stated that he was not sure if they need to take the bypass part of it
off. He felt that it was going to create a lot of problems, but that is an alternative. That alternative will
probably evolve into a better alternative or at least he hoped so.
Mr. Cilimberg acknowledged that this really strikes kind of sensitive spot for the County, but he did not
want the Commission to feel like this is revisiting the whole process that they went through on the bypass.
It is not. Harrison Rue is not here tonight. He is actually involved in another presentation locally. He felt
that Mr. Rue could possibly best speak to this. The element that was a part of that study on the Corridor
is for the modeling of traffic to include what would occur with and without a bypass in place. That is a part
of the long term modeling. If the Commission feels that is opening a door that should not be opened he
felt that it is their place and they should be making a recommendation or a statement to the Board of your
concern. That is not a problem whatsoever. But, he did not want to over blow this bypass aspect in
terms of how it is being incorporated into the overall study process.
Ms. Higgins stated that for clarification that she did not have issue with somehow handing regional traffic
from the north and to the south end. She just has a problem with the actual location of how that traffic is
routed on the west side. It frustrated her to no end that other alternatives that were downed because of
environmental issues of a different type and were not drinking water or land sensitivity. She felt that
development in transportation corridors need to be planned. It is just that particular alternative due to the
drinking water, the reservoir and the sensitivity of the land that it passed through just always had
problems. But, she felt that regional traffic is an issue and getting from point A up at the north to point B
down south needs to happen, but it just seems that it is being pushed always back to that same route.
She stated that maybe it needs to be to the east or that it is not far enough to the north any longer. But, it
is too limited.
Mr. Rieley stated that he agreed with all of the reservations expressed. Like Ms. Higgins, he did not have
a concern about numbers related to through traffic on Route 29 being a part of the transportation
analysis, particularly if they are paid for exclusively by VDOT. But, he did have a problem with County
resources being utilized to once again revisit the Western Bypass, a matter that they thought that they
had put to bed several times in several different venues including CHART and the long term plan. The
MPO has never designated any money for construction of the Western Bypass. He felt that it is an issue
in which this community has reached closure. He made the following motion:
The Planning Commission encourages the Board to not let an analysis of the general through
traffic requirements once again open up the issue of the Western Bypass as a feasible
alternative.
Mr. Craddock seconded the motion.
Ms. Higgins stated that there might be some other alternative, but not the Western Bypass version.
The motion carried by a vote of (6:1). (Mr. Thomas — No)
Mr. Edgerton stated that the resolution passed by a vote of (6:1) and asked that staff forward it on to the
Board of Supervisors.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that staff would like to now discuss the advisory committee.
Ms. Wiegand stated that committee's role is to give input and feedback during this process and they are
not to be decision makers. For example, they want them to be the first group that represents the County
to review material that is going to be used at the charrettes and the public meetings. That will give the
County staff and the consultants the opportunity to know if they have missed anything, if there is anything
else that they need to consider or if there is a viewpoint that they have not thought of. They would like
representatives from both the business community and the neighborhoods in the area. They hope that
they can have people who have a positive attitude, who recognize that there are a variety of viewpoints
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and opinions throughout the four different development areas. They need people who are going to think
out of the box with staff and the consultants to help brainstorm ways that they can deal with the various
opinions. They need people who are ready to participate in a constructive process. The time commitment
is going to be uneven. They are estimating one or two meetings a month, except during the week or so
before each of the three public events. One of those meetings is going to be in May, another in October
and the other in January. At that time there could be two or three meetings during the week that the
committee members would need to attend. They were looking at eleven members on the committee
unless the Commission is comfortable with fewer members. They did want two members of the Planning
Commission, one member from the Architectural Review Board, four business representatives and four
neighborhood representatives. Staffs idea was that each of the four Commissioners who represent a
magisterial district that is directly affected by this could appoint one neighborhood and one business
representative. But, staff would be happy to do it whichever way the Commission would like.
Mr. Cilimberg asked Mr. Thomas, Mr. Edgerton, Ms. Higgins and Mr. Morris to recommend one business
representative and one neighborhood representative to serve on this committee from their districts. He
asked that these names be submitted to staff prior to next week's meeting so that final action can be
taken. That item will be placed under old business on next week's agenda so that the Commission can
take appropriate action.
Mr. Thomas volunteered to serve on the Advisory Committee.
Mr. Morris volunteered to serve on the Advisory Committee, but pointed out that May was virtually out for
him due to previous commitments. If that is acceptable, then he would be willing to serve.
Ms. Wiegand stated that she would be happy to provide the upcoming meeting schedule to the
Commissioners along with the basic information about the committee.
In summary, staff requested assistance in setting up the Advisory Committee. Staff suggests two
commissioners, one member of the architectural review board, and two representatives from each of the
four magisterial districts included in these four development areas (one business representative and one
neighborhood representative). The advisory committee would provide feedback to the consultants and
County staff during the master planning process.
• Two Planning Commissioners, Calvin Morris and Rodney Thomas, volunteered to serve on the
Advisory Committee.
• Mr. Thomas, Mr. Edgerton, Ms. Higgins and Mr. Morris were asked to recommend one business
representative and one neighborhood representative to serve on this committee from their
districts. These names shall be submitted to staff prior to next week's meeting so that final action
can be taken.
• The Commission asked that their resolution be forwarded to the Board of Supervisors by next
week.
• The Commission asked that staff email the upcoming study schedule along with the basic
information about the committee to them.
Old Business:
Mr. Edgerton asked if there was any old business.
Planning Commission Retreat Priorities
Ms. Higgins made a motion that the list of priorities accurately represents their intent, with the addition of
#6 that the rural preservation development needs to be a higher priority, and that the Chairman and staff
will work together for implementation.
Mr. Rieley seconded the motion.
The motion carried by a vote of (7:0).
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There being no further old business, the meeting proceeded.
New Business:
Mr. Edgerton asked if there was any new business. There being none, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment:
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 7:46 p.m. to the May 3, 2005 meeting.
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(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon Claytor Taylor, Recording Secretary.)
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