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Albemarle County Planning Commission
FINAL Minutes May 28, 2019
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday, May 28, 2019,
at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia.
Members attending were Tim Keller, Chair; Julian Bivins, Vice -Chair; Daphne Spain; Pam Riley,
Vice -Chair; Karen Firehock; Bruce Dotson; Jenie More; and Luis Carrazana.
Members absent: none.
Other officials present were Rebecca Ragsdale, Rachel Falkenstein, David Hannah, Cameron
Langille, Lea Brumfield, Andy Herrick, David Benish, Carolyn Shaffer.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum
Mr. Keller called the regular meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum.
The meeting moved to the next agenda item.
From the Public: Matters Not Listed for Public Hearing on the Agenda
Mr. Keller invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. Hearing
none, he said the meeting would move to the next item.
Public Hearing Items
ZMA201800005 Proposed Hotel
Mr. Keller introduced the item and asked for a staff report.
Mr. Benish stated that this proposal includes two properties and is proposed to establish a 109-
seat hotel. The properties are established within a planned mixed -development zoning district
that was created in 1980 through the comprehensive zoning that was established at that time by
the Board of Supervisors, and that established a planned development district on this property.
He said that a subsequent ZMA application to establish the approved application plan on a
portion of this planned development was approved but did not include these properties, thus the
ZMA has been presented in order to approve that application plan that's required with this
zoning district.
Mr. Benish indicated on a map the location of the hotel property on State Farm Boulevard in the
Pantops development area. He said that the comprehensive plan recommends this area for
urban mixed use, and also for park land. He stated that the proposed hotel is consistent with the
land use designations, and the applicant is proffering the back two acres of the property for
future dedication to the county for park use. He noted that those comments areas it relates to
the existing Pantops Master Plan, and it is also consistent with the proposed Pantops Master
Plan. He said that the area in the proposed master plan is designated for community mixed use,
and hotels are included as a primary use in that comprehensive plan district. He added that the
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recommendation for the park area associated with these properties is essentially the same as in
the current plan, so it's consistent with both.
Mr. Benish reported that the proposed hotel will include a maximum of 109 units (rooms) and
will be a maximum of 65 feet in height, which includes a 15-foot step -back along State Farm
Boulevard for the entire frontage of the building. He noted that there are existing sidewalks
along State Farm Boulevard, and the proposal includes pedestrian access to the site from the
sidewalk in two locations. He noted that as stated previously, there is a proffer for two acres in
the back to be dedicated to public use, in reserve for dedication to public use. He pointed out
the general location for the two -acre area and said that it is associated with some of the steeper
slopes on the property.
Mr. Benish said that during the community meeting, concerns were raised about the height of
the hotel and the views from the Blue Ridge Mountains as seen from State Farm Boulevard, as
well as from elsewhere in Pantops. He said that in response to the community's discussion, the
applicant provided visual renderings to better illustrate the intended size, massing, and
appearance of the hotel, and to help demonstrate the anticipated aspects of the viewshed. Mr.
Benish indicated on a picture that although it is difficult to see, in the yellow print above the
building, there was a balloon flown to show the height at the site at about 70 feet; and the
picture shows the rendering to be fairly accurate at 65 feet. He presented another view.
Mr. Benish stated that the factors favorable are that the proposed uses permissible in the
existing zoning district, and the proposal does not seek to amend the zoning district or change
any of the intensity or density of the proposed site, as permitted by the zoning. He said the
proposal has been revised to comply with the general regulations for height, such that special
exceptions for step -backs are no longer needed, as the building does meet the height and step -
back requirements. He noted that the proposal on the application plan has been revised to
conform to the neighborhood model principles to provide for relegated parking, pedestrian
orientation, building and space of human scale, interconnected streets, and parks and open
space. He added that it's also been revised to respond to written concerns regarding the
potential impacts to the Monticello viewshed as provided by the Thomas Jefferson Memorial
Foundation.
Mr. Benish said that the proposed use and improvements are limited to a portion of the overall
subject property that is consistent with the land use designations in the comp plan, and the open
space area is being set aside, as recommended in the plan, and a proffer as been provided for
that.
Regarding unfavorable factors, Mr. Benish said that VDOT had noted that the southernmost
intersection from the site is relatively close to the State Farm Boulevard/Martha Jefferson
intersection. However, there is an interparcel connection being provided, so that when future
development to the south is provided, there potentially could be access that better aligns with
that intersection. He added that the details of how to deal with this issue can be addressed
during the site plan stage. Mr. Benish noted that the location of the site and height of the
proposed primary structure could have a negative impact on some long-distance views of the
Blue Ridge Mountains, as seen from certain perspectives in this vicinity.
Mr. Benish stated that staff does recommend approval of this zoning request, and offered to
answer questions regarding this request.
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The public hearing was opened, and the applicant was asked to come forward.
Mr. Kurt Wassenaar addressed the Commission and said he is an architect in Albemarle County
and is representing Shamin Hotels, along with colleagues Mr. John Wright, a civil engineer; Mr.
Michael Shamin, architect and Vice President for Shamin Hotels; and Ms. Valerie Long, attorney
for the Williams Mullen law firm. Mr. Wassenaar noted that the team can address questions that
the public may have about any aspects of the proposal, and as staff said, this is a by -right
application and the only piece the applicant is seeking approval for is the application plan.
Mr. Wassenaar also thanked Tim Padalino, who was not present at the meeting, and other staff,
who has worked extensively with the applicant to amend the proposal, both architecturally and
in regards to the planning aspects of the project in order to bring the proposal into favorable
consideration. He added that he felt the report was very thorough in terms of the items
discussed and worked upon, and he would like to present another architectural rendering.
Mr. Wassenaar stated that doing a hotel project with Hampton is a fairly involved project, and
the team is working with the prototype hotel designs that are typically available by hotels, as
well as the desires of the applicant. As an architect and resident of Albemarle County, Mr.
Wassenaar said he was concerned with making sure that what was proposed would, to the best
of the team's ability, fit in with the existing buildings on Pantops and with Martha Jefferson
Hospital -- the largest building in the viewshed. He said the team was very careful to incorporate
the comments by Monticello and address their concerns about the viewshed. He said they did
quite a number of aerial studies to look at the visual impact of the building, and the impact is not
substantially different than the impact of Martha Jefferson Hospital in the viewshed area. He'.
said that that and the buffering that was done on the back side of the building, as well as the
landscaping added to the project, significantly mitigate many of the visual aspects.
Mr. Wassenaar stated that the other components of architecture that the team addressed were
to work with the step -back requirements of the model neighborhood components in order to
articulate the building so it doesn't look like a giant slab, and to move the building into materials
and colors that are more in keeping with the adjacent Pantops buildings, as well as Martha
Jefferson Hospital. He said the team has tried very hard to match and make compatible the
materials, massing, and articulation of the building that, from the viewshed standpoint, makes it
as inobtrusive as possible and an attractive addition to the State Farm Boulevard area.
Mr. Wassenaar thanked staff for their help in working through interpretive issues relative to the
step -back pieces of the plan.
Mr. Wassenaar wanted to point out that this building is not within an ARB district, but as a
commitment to being a good neighbor in the community and trying to do the right thing with the
project, the team has worked hard to try to conform the project to a thoughtful process relative
to the design of the building, even though it is not subject to an ARB-type review process. He
mentioned that the team had follow-up discussions with Monticello, and he believed Monticello
felt the team had incorporated all the comments they had and there were no objections they had
to the design the team submitted for the building.
Mr. Wassenaar stated that the team felt very fortunate that they were able to effectively work
with Hampton Inn and push them a bit further in order to get a quality project, and within the
realm of the team's ability -- from regulations, business model, and other components of the
project, he felt that the project would reflect well on the process and for the community. He
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turned the discussion over to Mr. Wright to talk about the site plan components, offered to
answer any questions from the Commission about the building or the project in general, and
asked for approval of the application.
Mr. John Wright from Bohler Engineering introduced himself as the site civil engineer for the
project. Mr. Wright pulled up the site plan for the Commission's review, and stated that the
proposal is for a 109-room hotel with two access points on State Farm Boulevard and with inter -
parcel connection to the southwest. He said that the goal is when the parcel develops, it would
have alignment with the adjacent intersection.
Mr. Wright said the project is providing a landscape buffer along the frontage, landscaping along
the southernmost property line and, and although not shown on the site plan would include
additional evergreen trees, as that was one of the comments from the foundation to help further
buffer the viewshed. Additionally, he said, the team proposed underground detention facilities
that would be located at the rear of the site, with step -backs in the retaining wall at a maximum
of six feet high. As Mr. Wright indicated on the site plan that there are three to four tiers in that
area, and all the design information would be worked out during the final site plan process.
Mr. Wright said all utilities are available on site, including water and sewer. The site is 4.5 acres,
with 2 acres proposed to be dedicated for a future park. He concluded and offered to answer
questions for the Commission.
Mr. Keller opened the public hearing.
Mr. Bivins invited members of the public to speak regarding the proposal.
Hearing no motions from the public to speak, Mr. Keller invited the project team to speak on
additional points, and Mr. Wassenaar offered to answer any questions from the Commission.
Mr. Dotson stated that the rear portion of the site is to be dedicated upon request in the future to
the county, and asked if it was represented by the dotted line on the site plan presented on the
screen.
Mr. Wassenaar responded that he believed that to be correct, and it is included in the proffer
statement, which is part of the application package.
Mr. Dotson asked, from what is stated as being a park or part of a park in the future, what would
be the visibility of what looks like three or four tiers of retaining wall, and if he was reading the
diagram correctly.
Mr. Wassenaar explained there is a steep slope that runs down the edge of that portion of land,
so the project is retaining the slope, and the edge would be buffered by trees along that edge so
that the wall would not be visible.
Mr. Dotson stated that he didn't see any trees on the site plan presented on the screen.
Mr. Wright explained that the goal was to use the existing tree line, as seen in the rendering,
and the conceptual landscape plan shows landscape plantings along the front edge, the side,
and some along the rear. He noted that there is a natural tree buffer that would be pulled back
to install the retaining wall, so the existing vegetation would remain. He said that during the site
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plan process, they would meet the code requirements for landscaping along the perimeter as
well.
Mr. Dotson asked about the portion that would be dedicated to the county and if it would be left
in its current condition.
Mr. Wright confirmed that this portion would be left in its natural state, except for what is needed
to construct the retaining wall. He said that the dotted line on the site plan represents the
roughly two acres that is being proposed as a dedication.
Mr. Dotson said his concern was from the proposed parkland, the view of a several -tier retaining
wall, and wanted to be sure there would be screening there.
Mr. Wright indicated on a rendering that one could see the existing vegetation and there is a
substantial elevation difference from the site as it drops down into the area. He said that the
goal is that by having the retaining wall, the slope is able to be held back, limiting the impact on
the natural tree line. He stated that one would not be able to see much from that area and there
should be care in where the trees would be planted so that the root system doesn't impact the
retaining wall structurally.
Mr. Benish added that the retaining wall height is about 5-6 feet.
Ms. Firehock asked about alleviating concerns from Monticello, and asked Mr. Wassenaar to
provide examples of those concerns, and whether they regarded the planting of evergreen tree,
or other matters.
Mr. Wassenaar responded that the major issues presented related to vegetative buffering, as
when looking at the viewshed, one would want to see mostly trees; the color of the building and
to make it a natural color that would blend in with earthtones and complement the greenery of
the site, as well as fit in with the appearance of Martha Jefferson Hospital and other Pantops
buildings.
Ms. Firehock noted that in the balloon test rendering, the building was red, and in the rendering
currently being presented, it's more of a beige or neutral color.
Mr. Wassenaar said the team did a study on the existing buildings on Pantops, as well as
Martha Jefferson Hospital, so that the hotel would fit visually with what is seen in the area.
Ms. Spain asked if the two acres dedicated to parkland consists of steep slopes so it would be
more vertical than horizontal.
Mr. Wassenaar said a portion of the dedicated land is in the managed steep slope area, so his
understanding is that the dedication would be a passive park in that regard, and whatever plans
the county has to work in that area would be up to them as they saw fit.
Ms. Riley asked if the parcel behind the proposed project, which has a retention pond, is county
owned or privately owned.
Mr. Benish responded that none of that area is county owned and that it's all portions of other
parts of the development. He said the pond may be related to the shopping center area up the
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hill. Mr. Benish said that is the area that is designated in the existing and proposed master plan
for the park area -- and a lot of it is steeper slopes, but there is a bottom landing area that
provides for useable passive opportunities. He said that though it was not large, it does take the
critical steep slope areas and flattening bottom areas to be used for passive purposes.
Mr. Keller asked for the rough distance from Monticello to the proposed hotel.
Mr. Wassenaar provided a guess of about eight or nine miles.
Mr. Keller also asked for the size of the roof plane.
Mr. Wassenaar responded that the size of the roof plane is 14,000 square feet.
Mr. Keller asked for the proposed color of the roof plane.
Mr. Wassenaar responded that it probably wasn't going to be visible.
Mr. Keller explained that many years ago, his firm had done the viewshed analysis for
Monticello -- which has been updated since -- and the colors of materials for this project have
been addressed for the sides and ground view, but as buildings have moved toward lighter
colored roofs for the cooling aspects of the summer, they have become quite visible. He stated
that 14,000 feet of white from Monticello would be highly visible, and he had a concern about
that.
Mr. Wassenaar responded that the project could commit to a roof color that would not be
reflective in a way that would be distinguishable from Monticello.
Mr. Keller said the hope is for a color that blends into the ground plane from up above.
Mr. Mike Sweeney from Shamin Hotels introduced himself and said that either a ballasted roof
or a tan TPO-type roof could be done and stated that the roof would not be white.
Mr. Keller asked if this needed to be included in the discussion at present time, or if staff could
add it to the list.
Mr. Benish said it could be addressed and depending on the operation of this zoning,
Monticello's review of the site plans is required as an additional step, as it is for the shopping
center on the hill as well. Mr. Benish said this could be taken under advisement as it moves to
the Board of Supervisors.
Mr. Wright added that they could do an earthtone roof.
Mr. Carrazana asked for the stormwater management solution for the site.
Mr. Wright responded that the proposed stormwater management solution is an underground
detention at the rear of the site -- the lowest point of the site -- and the project would meet the
water quantity and quality requirements of the state. He noted the schematics on the site plan
and indicated the underground facility on the plan, with a pipe that goes through the site that the
project would pick up and re-route around, and would collect all the onsite impervious area into
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the underground detention system, which would fall into the current point of interest for the site,
which is at the rear of the site.
Mr. Carrazana asked if it would then drain towards the back.
Mr. Wright replied that it would, due to the natural terrain of the land where the water goes, and
that the project team would analyze the pre- and post -conditions and ensure that runoff through
the site would not be increased, and this analysis would be further explored during the site plan
review process.
Mr. Carrazana asked if there were any natural live streams there that would take the runoff.
Mr. Wright responded that there is an existing pipe that runs through the site now that collects
some of the drainage from State Farm, and there is an existing channel that drains to the rear of
the property. He said their goal is to re-route that system and also detain the new flow on the
site to pre -development rates.
Mr. Carrazana said it would be interesting to see more detail of the development of exactly how
the runoff would work, so that erosion would not be created.
Mr. Wright said that some of the end treatments would be to use a level spreader design so that
way, the out fall is not point discharge but is rather a runoff flow that's more gradual to the
remainder of the slope. He said that further design details would be provided in the site plan
review.
Mr. Carrazana said that right now, there isn't much to see as far as what's happening on the
additional two acres, and he wanted to ensure that these are details that would be managed
and worked with the county on.
Mr. Benish emphasized that this work is standard practice with the site plan.
Mr. Keller asked if there were further questions, and heard none.
Mr. Benish displayed an aerial rendering in order to show a perspective of the wooded areas
and pond. He said that most of the wooded area contains the critical slopes, and the stream
valley swale area that drains to the Rivanna is in the middle of the wooded area.
Mr. Keller closed the public hearing and brought the item back for Commission discussion and
action.
Ms. Spain said that she has been part of the Pantops CAC that was updating the master plan,
and the staff report under "Factors Unfavorable" that states that it would negatively impact
and/or block long distance views of the Blue Ridge Mountains, as seen from certain
perspectives in this vicinity, is very much an understatement from the standpoint of the CAC
members. She emphasized that this was a real flashpoint, and there is concern that not only
land but views would be lost, and her thoughts are that many of the residents resent that the
Monticello viewshed is more important than the residents' viewshed -- so they are not being
given the opportunity to have the type of input that they would like. She said that because no
one from the public is present at the meeting, that they have likely accepted that this is a by
right development and there is nothing they can do about it. Ms. Spain noted that this is her
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district and she would be making a motion, but she wanted Commissioners to realize that there
was quite a bit of objection to this proposal, in any form, by the CAC.
Mr. Bivins asked for clarification of where the additional proposed or anticipated connection to
State Farm Boulevard would be located on the property.
Mr. Benish indicated on the aerial view the two entrances -- north and south -- heading toward
State Farm. He pointed out that the southernmost entrance is the spacing issue, due to Martha
Jefferson Drive, and with future access provided to the adjacent properties as these sites
developed, VDOT and staff would reorient those accesses to that intersection. Mr. Benish said
that once the area begins to develop more, this property would probably have access to an
entrance that would be at that crossing. He said the spacing now is about 139 feet, so there is a
weaving issue, but the traffic is relatively low there and should not be a major concern.
Ms. Spain moved to adopt the resolution recommending approval of ZMA201800005,
Proposed Hotel, for the reasons stated in the staff report. Mr. Dotson seconded the motion.
Ms. Firehock noted that there was a statement in the report that staff recommends approval
providing that a finalized, signed, and notarized proffer statement is submitted. She asked if that
was something to be included in the motion or if it was assumed to be taken care of.
Mr. Herrick stated that it was assumed, and the motion is sufficient for the purposes of this
meeting at the present time.
Mr. Benish said those are technical issues that the Commission would address.
The motion was adopted by vote of 7:0.
Mr. Keller thanked the applicants and said the application would move forward to the Board of
Supervisors.
ZMA 20190002 Hollymead Town Center Area A-1 Proffer Amendment
Mr. Benish reported that this is a proposal to amend the proffer to reduce the cash contributions
towards transit operating expenses provided as Proffer 4 for ZMA 2012-00005. He said the cash
proffer that was approved amounts to a total of $500K to be paid over 10 years. He said that the
applicant is proposing to reduce that proffer to $250K paid over 10 years or a $200K total
amount payable in a lump sum within 14 days of the approval of this application.
Mr. Benish stated that the applicant has also provided for an alternative proposal, which would
require the submittal of an additional ZMA and modifying the proffers associated with ZMA
2016-0001 Hollymead Town Center Section A-2, which proposes to pay the full amount of the
transit proffer associated with the ZMA 2012-0005 proffers, but deletes the cash proffers with
the ZMA 2016-0001 rezoning and amends the code of development for A-2 to reduce the total
number of units from 1,222 to 800.
Mr. Benish showed the location of the property, which is on the corner of Town Center Drive
and Route 29 and is bounded on the west by Berkmar Drive. He said that regarding the
proposal and the reference to areas A-1 and A-2, the original rezoning for this portion of the
Hollymead Town Center was done as one zoning: Hollymead Town Center Area A, and was
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subsequently divided into A-1 and A-2, and that's why they are somewhat associated with one
another.
Mr. Benish stated that the rezoning was originally approved in 2005 and was approved for both
A-1 and A-2, and in 2010, the applicant made a rezoning request to request relief from
obligations of proffers for completing Meeting Street, to allow for a Kohl's certificate of
occupancy. He said there was also a request to place a sunset on the public transit proffer for
two years after that date. He stated that at that meeting, the request to reduce the transit proffer
was brought up and discussed by that Planning Commission at that time -- and the Commission
recommended a reduction to $25OK a year, at $25K per year.
Mr. Benish said they set a more extensive sunset clause in July 2018, and the Planning
Commission recommended change to the proffer but it was not fully reviewed by the Board of
Supervisors. He stated that the request was deleted from the applicant's proposal at the request
of the Board, so that the remaining aspects of the proposed proffers at that time could be
reviewed at the public hearing and acted upon. He noted that the next most relevant history is
with the JAUNT service, as the 29 Express began operation in May 2016, and the applicants
were requested to provide for the cash proffers at that time.
Mr. Benish reported that the applicant's justification for the amendment request is that there is
insufficient nexus and rough proportionality between the proffer as written, in any reasonably
expected condition or impact caused by the project. He stated that the JAUNT commuter
service does not address any impacts caused by the subject development, and significant
improvements have been made in the area, which reduce transportation concerns. He said that
staff has addressed those reasons and believes that the transit proffer addresses transportation
traffic and impacts generated by A-1 and A-2, rezonings that amount to more than 73OK square
feet of commercial use and 1,222 dwelling units. He noted that the A-1 area specifically would
generate approximately 9,400 vehicle trips through the area over a 24-hour period, and the
transit service would provide another modal option and a potential means to mitigate traffic
impacts created by these rezonings.
Mr. Benish said that staff opinion is that the JAUNT service does provide transit alternatives to
vehicular travel to the area that provide and make capacity available on the roads for
transportation generated by these uses. He stated that the improvements in the area were
improvements identified as needed at the time of the rezonings to address the impacts of those
rezonings.
Mr. Benish stated that regarding the alternative proposal, which essentially is a request to
modify the cash proffers related to residential development, those requests for reductions for
previously accepted cash proffers for residential development area not consistent with the
Board's policy regarding changes to those cash proffers. He noted that the Board has not
agreed to make those changes, and the reduction in density from 1,200 to 800 units as a
general rule is not encouraged in the development areas, so there isn't a significant benefit to
the county to the provide for that. He said that eliminating the cash proffers for the remaining
units in A-2 would result in an approximate loss of $2.5-$5, depending on the number of units.
the density proposed.
Mr. Benish said that staff found no factors favorable to this request, and the unfavorable factors.
are that the applicant/owner agreed and signed the proffer forms, agreeing that the conditions
were voluntarily proffered as part of the request to rezone, and acknowledged that the
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conditions were reasonable. He stated that there is sufficient nexus and rough proportionality
between the proffers as written, and the reasonably expected conditions are impacts caused by
the development. He said that the alternative proposal is not consistent with the county's police
for requesting changes in the cash proffers, and it would also require submittal of a revised
application -- and without further paperwork and processing, the application couldn't be
approved at this time.
Mr. Benish stated that staff recommends denial of the request, and he had discussed with the
applicant the possibility of deferring this item, and the applicant had wanted to discuss possible
other options to better address the county needs and considerations for this amendment. He
said that in the end, staff agreed it might be best to hold this conversation and discussion with
the Planning Commission to hear their input, as other ideas might arise from that discussion.
Ms. Spain said the staff report indicates the JAUNT service began in 2016, and no payments
have been received in the last three years and a zoning violation has been issued. She asked
what sort of weight a zoning violation carried.
Mr. Herrick asked what she was referring to specifically in terms of weight carried.
Ms. Spain responded that she was referring to penalties to the owner, who was not meeting the
proffers.
Mr. Herrick explained that any failure to comply to the existing proffer is grounds for a zoning
violation, and the zoning administrator has cited the owner for failure to make the payments
under the existing proffers. He said that finding of violation was appealed to the Board of
Supervisors, who upheld the decision of the zoning administrator -- and that has been appealed
to circuit court, where the case is currently pending.
Ms. Spain asked if there was a point where a violation imposed a financial penalty.
Mr. Herrick responded that every violation of the ordinance had a $200 penalty for the first
violation, with subsequent violations subject to a $500 penalty.
Mr. Dotson asked if each day was considered a violation.
Mr. Herrick responded that every 10 days was considered a violation.
The Chair opened the public hearing.
Mr. Pete Karamanis addressed the Board on behalf of the applicant and said he wanted to
clarify a few things in the staff report. He stated that Mr. Benish had mentioned that the Planning
Commission in 2011 made a recommendation to the Board for the $25,000 for 10 years, which
is what the applicant is proposing tonight. He said that the staff report makes it sound like the
Board didn't support that, but at the Board meeting the following night -- January 12, 2011 --
they never really reached that issue.
Mr. Karamanis stated that it was clear that some Board members favored it and some didn't, but
what was determined was because this proposal arose at the Planning Commission meeting
and was not noticed publicly, the Board did not have the authority to grant it. He said that this
left the applicant with a dilemma of either not getting the other amendments that were on the
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table that night or just removing this and revisiting it in the future. He stated that it wouldn't be
accurate to characterize it as the Board just dismissing what the Commission had said, as there
was conversation and it's uncertain what the Board would have done that evening.
Mr. Karamanis stated that in the discussion section of the report, it talks about the JAUNT
service, and one of the justifications for keeping things the way things are is that the Board of
Supervisors approved this service with the understanding that the proffered funds would be
available to help fund the service. He said that it's very relevant to point out that during that
conversation, prior to any vote being taken by the Board, the applicant came forward in multiple
meetings and expressed the applicant's belief that the proffer was not properly triggered by this
JAUNT route and this was not a proper application of the proffer. He state that the Board
proceeded anyway, but to use that as justification for not hearing this matter is inappropriate.
Mr. Karamanis said that he also wanted to clarify that the applicant was not there to oppose
public transit or weigh in on its use, and his point is what the developer should pay for and
whether or not the transit service addresses an impact that this development created. He stated
that the staff report says there is sufficient nexus and rough proportionality between this proffer
as written and any reasonably expected condition or impact caused by this project, which is
presented to the Board as a fact -- but the matter is before the circuit court to determine, and it
would be entirely inappropriate to use that as the basis for a decision. He added that the
applicant's position is that there is not rough proportionality and nexus.
Mr. Karamanis stated that there were other proffers associated with this project -- widening
Route 29, creating Town Center Drive -- and those things have happened and have alleviated
traffic to the point where if they were to review traffic when the proffer was put in place versus
now, they could likely not say there is a need for this public transit in particular, which takes
them over to the practical side. He said that this bus is a commuter route that runs in the
morning before the shopping center is open and comes back in the evening, and it is built to
take people from north of town into town to work. -
Mr. Karamanis stated that it is not built to bring people to and from the shopping center and is
not eliminating any cars that would otherwise be going to and from the shopping center. He said
that if you were to take it from town up to Hollymead Town Center in the evening, which is the
only time you could do that during operating hours, you would have no way to get home. He
emphasized that it is not designed any particular cars and traffic that are serving the shopping
center. He added that regarding rough proportionality, it was basically serving single digit
numbers of people every day to bring them to and from work, and the question of whether or not
that is worth asking a developer to pay $1/2 million is a very relevant question.
Mr. Karamanis stated that staff has indicated no favorable factors to this request, and the
applicant finds this unfair. He said that favorable factors were that it would be consistent with
prior Planning Commission approvals -- as they had supported this proposal many years ago,
and that was before all the other traffic improvements were made to alleviate traffic in other
ways. He said that there was a dispute going on for some time now and was pending in the
circuit court, and this would resolve that and provide outcomes for both parties.
Mr. Karamanis emphasized that the applicant was not trying to avoid legitimate obligations and
was before them to offer more than what he feels he is legally required to provide. He said that
as Mr. Benish mentioned, the applicant is open to conversation -- and what they would like was
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some feedback on how to resolve this dispute and not just looking the other way. He noted that
there were even more favorable factors now, and he hoped the Commission would agree.
Mr. Keller opened the public hearing.
Mr. Bivins invited speakers to come forward.
There being no public speakers, Mr. Keller invited the applicant to address the Commission
again and asked Mr. Herrick if there were any ground rules for this proposal.
Mr. Herrick explained that Mr. Benish had referenced the possibility of a deferral, and they have
a scheduled court date for this matter in July -- so staff would ask that the Commission consider
and decide this tonight with a recommendation one way or another.
Ms. Firehock asked if the original proffer for the transportation was only ever intended to serve
the shopping center.
Mr. Karamanis responded that the proffer language states that once the transit service served
the shopping center, that would trigger the proffer -- and what is before the Commission is the
original proffer language, which has not changed.
Ms. Firehock stated that the applicant had mentioned that the transit service did not operate
when the stores were open, and asked if a remedy would be to change the hours of the shuttle.
Mr. Karamanis responded that this was out of the applicant's control, and his understanding
from what he has read about the route was that it was a commuter route for people living north
of town and working in town.
Ms. Firehock stated that the original owner entered into the proffer and must have made it
because there was some relationship between the proffer and the development, so she was
having a hard time following the line of logic that a proffer was freely and voluntarily offered that
had nothing to do with the development. She asked him to elaborate.
Mr. Karamanis said that it's not that this proffer couldn't theoretically have a relationship with the
development, and if the data supported that this development had created a significant amount
of traffic that was alleviated by the public transit that served it, this would be a completely
different situation -- but that's not the situation they are in. He added that when this was
originally proposed with the proffer, there was a much greater level of development anticipated
with this property that now will not come to fruition. He said that the reason they proposed the
alternative was that staff indicated it would be well -received, but there had been inconsistent
feedback overall.
Mr. Bivins asked to reference the map of the property and said he hoped they could create a
nexus between where this proposed density would be and where it won't be, if in fact this was
allowed.
Mr. Karamanis stated that this proffer applied to A-1 -- the commercial property with the Kohl's
on it -- and the correlating property is Block A-2, which has residential on it. He said that if the
alternative were favorable, it would require an additional application to be filed, which the
applicant had hoped to do prior to this meeting.
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Mr. Benish pointed out the concentration of residential in the development and the mixed -use
area.
Mr. Bivins asked if the homes were in the area off of Dickerson Road.
Mr. Benish responded that A-2 is undeveloped at this point, and Abingdon Place is another part
of the Hollymead Town Center, with minimum and maximum units -- and the 1,222 is the
maximum for this area.
Mr. Dotson stated that he would offer comments on proportionality, which was a complicated
question but one for which they had some guidelines and ideas. He said that the proffers were
stated in 10 equal installments, and no one imagined that the need itself would happen that way
-- which suggests to him that proportionality and the sequence of contribution were at best very
loosely linked.
Mr. Dotson said that when this was before the Board of Supervisors, Mark Graham advised the
Board not to make the mistake at looking at this proffer in isolation from the other proffers -- as
they were considered in their totality in the approval. He stated that the Commission needs to
continue to heed that advice, and in thinking about schools they don't look at proportionality, as
people who no longer have children in schools still contribute. He said that a family with many
children in school does not necessarily contribute proportionality, and looking at proportionality
in a simplistic and literal way doesn't really apply when operating a community.
Mr. Dotson stated that he felt there was transit service, and this application did not request a
trigger date because the service has already begun, so he concluded that this was not
requested as it had been previously. He added that when starting something new, and this
northern area of the county was new and thus would take a while to build transit ridership. He
stated that initially there were expected investments with marketing and gaining comfort and
experience with the route -- and if the applicant had been paying the proffers, they would have
met their full amount, and the cost of transit might have gone up by the time they were done
paying. Mr. Dotson said that he would likely follow staff's suggestion and for the reasons
outlined in the staff report and presentation, which would be a vote against this.
Ms. Firehock concurred with Mr. Dotson.
Mr. Bivins stated that there were no conditions of performance on the proffer statement,
Attachment B, and the individuals who entered into the original proffer agreement were very
sophisticated in the way they approached this 11-point proffer. He said that the real estate
market tanked in 2007/2008, and he was struck that when this piece of property was purchased
that there had to be some trading that happened there. He said that he had.read the proffer was
for the entire piece, so when the transaction took place, they could have placed things on
individual pieces of property.
Mr. Bivins stated that he was not sure why at this stage this was now being subject to another
level of interpretation of schedules, busses, and whether the transit is functioning well with the
property, because the decision was made for the proffer at a certain amount over a certain time
period. He said that this transit route was part of a larger package presented when this was
done and accepted by the county, and if this is going to the circuit court, they should decide if
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the clause should be null and void -- and it is not the role of the Commission to circumvent the
litigation.
Mr. Dotson moved to recommend denial of ZMA201900002 Hollymead Town Center Area A-1,
Proffer #4 amendment to the Board of Supervisors, for the reasons as articulated in the staff
report and explained in the presentation, as well as the comments he offered regarding
proportionality and the fact service has begun. Ms. Firehock seconded the motion, which
passed unanimously (6-0).
ZTA 20190004 New Residential Proffers
Mr. Fritz reported that this is a zoning text amendment to bring the county code into alignment
with a change in the state code that will go into effect on July 1, affecting proffers. He stated that
in 2016, there was an amendment to the state code that significantly limited localities' ability to
accept proffers -- and for an offsite proffer to be deemed reasonable, it had to address public
transportation facilities, public safety facilities, public school facilities, or public parks.
He said that the proffers had to address impacts specifically attributable to a proposed new
residential development, address an impact where that development creates a need or an
identifiable portion of a need for improvements, and provide each new unit with a direct and
material benefit from that proffer. He stated that it was a very precise measurement that
prevented offsite proffers from being accepted, and the language in 2016 had a damping
provision that did not allow localities to discuss proffers, because suggesting them presenting
problems -- but that provision would be removed as of July 1, 2019.
Mr. Fritz said that it also retained the language he had just provided but also had a provision
that said at the applicant's choosing, they can make a proffer and as long as they say it was
reasonable, it is. He stated that this would allow the county to accept proffers if an applicant was
willing to make one -- and the county cannot deny an application because the application did not
choose to make a proofer and instead chose to go under the narrow proffer language. He said
that was what the provision did, and the Commission would simply be adopting the state code
language.
Ms. Spain asked how this was different from where they were two years ago.
Mr. Fritz responded that there have been some lively discussions about this, and arguably it
takes them to a better place than they were in 2016, because it has the language that says if the
applicant says a proffer is reasonable, it is -- which may be slightly better than where they were
in 2016. He added that it was at least as good as 2016.
Mr. Herrick agreed, stating that the section adopted in 2016 was Section 15.2-2303.4, and this
adds an important provision that allows developers and localities to have discussions. He stated
that if the developer signs a voluntary proffer and agrees that it's fair and reasonable, then it is.
He stated that the proposed ZTA simply strikes out the sole reference to Subsection C, which
was the very demanding list that appeared in the 2016 law, and says that all of 2303.4 as
revised now applies, including the provision that allows there to be voluntarily signed proffers
that stipulate to the reasonableness.
Mr. Dotson said the key date was July 1, 2019, and asked if that was the date for a completed
and accepted application, or if it was the date for Board of Supervisors' action on applications
files before that date.
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Mr. Fritz responded that it applies to actions filed after July 1, 2019.
Mr. Herrick added that there is an enactment clause the General Assembly put in saying it "shall
apply to all applications filed after July 1, 2019," and for pending applications that cross over the
date, the applicant has the option of choosing either set of proffer laws.
Mr. Dotson said that a school might serve several developments, but an applicant can say a
proffer is reasonable even if other students are attending.
Mr. Herrick read the language of the new law: "An applicant or owner may, at the time of filing
an application pursuant to this section or during the development review process submit any
onsite or offsite proffer that the owner and applicant deem reasonable and appropriate as
conclusively evidenced by the signed proffers." He said that by signing the proffers, they are
acknowledging that they are reasonable and appropriate.
Mr. Keller opened the public hearing.
Mr. Bivins invited speakers.
Mr. Sean Tubbs of the Piedmont Environmental Council spoke in favor of the item before the
Commission to amend the county's rules to accept proffers from developers for rezonings and
special use permits. He said that this restores the possibility of what should have been
happening all along -- conversation. Mr. Tubbs stated that the ordinance before them is in
response to legislation that was in response to local decisions made all across the
Commonwealth over the past 10 years or so. He said that in the last public hearing, they were
made aware that the mechanism by which developers pay for the cost of development and cost
of growth was a tricky subject. He stated that this issue had been underway for decades and
this amendment was a chance to make the conversation better -- mostly because of what they
have learned over the last several years. Mr. Tubbs said that how to cover the cost of
development is a topic that all of the state's growing localities were facing -- but what matters is
that the conversation happens and that the county's toolbox remains stocked, which this
amendment helps achieve.
Mr. Tubbs stated that county staff was getting very good at developing master plans that clearly
lay out what is desired by the community as it grows, and this has happened with the Rio Road
Small Area Plan and would happen with Pantops. He said it would take a lot of good planning
and some good luck to bring all the places of urban Albemarle come together, and this
amendment opens the door and gets them back to the point they can simply have the
conversations between things.
Mr. Tubbs said that the Fiscal Impact Advisory Committee, which was disbanded a few years
ago, has not come back together -- and with all the tools happening with economic development
and the work being done with planning and school populations, perhaps the time was right to
convene a group to bring all of it together. In the meantime, he said, this was a good step
forward.
Mr. Neil Williamson stated that this discussion takes him back to the time of negotiated proffers,
and they rose to such a point that developments didn't happen. He said that the Commission
has an opportunity tonight to look back at the legislation there was and limit the proffers to be
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those things most directly associated with new development. He stated that the previous
legislation included parks, public safety, transportation, and schools -- which seemed
reasonable to him -- and the Commission could limit and consider how much they were planning
to spend in the CIP per current housing unit and back it up five years, rather than what they got
out of the last applicant. Mr. Williamson said that he is in favor of this least bad choice, but it
could be so much better.
There being no further public speakers, Mr. Keller closed the public hearing and brought the
item back for discussions and action.
Ms. Spain asked Mr. Herrick about the choice an applicant had to go under the new rules or the
old rules, and she asked if this also affected the Commission's ability to talk to applicants.
Mr. Herrick responded that one of the problems with the current law is it prohibits requiring or
even suggesting proffers, which has had a chilling effect on dialogue. He said that if an
applicant chose to proceed under the old law, the county and its imputed agents could not
suggest, request, or require any unreasonable proffers as defined in the legislation.
Ms. Firehock moved to adopt ZTA20190004. Mr. Bivins seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously (6-0).
Committee Reports.
Ms. Riley: She reported that the previous week, the Village of Rivanna CAC had sponsored a
community meeting on the Boyd Tavern application, which would be moving forward to the
Commission sometime this summer.
Mr. Dotson: The Rio/Places 29 CAC was reviewing their watch list of items and a developer on
the committee commented that she wished there was a way a developer could get feedback
from the community and how developers might ease those concerns. He asked how this new
legislation might affect that.
Mr. Herrick said that the provision was eliminated for applications filed after July 1, 2019.
Mr. Bivins stated that while there may not be a specific development on the table, sometimes
CACs just want to have a blue-sky discussion about what would be an added benefit.
Mr. Herrick said that was problematic for applications filed before July 1, but not those filed
after.
Mr. Keller: He attended the May 15th CTAC meeting, with the long-range transportation plan
being the primary item, found in detail on the TJDPDC website -- and going onto the MPO for
approval. He said that there would be a new transportation planner coming to the county, and
there has also been some interest in rethinking the role of CTAC, which he would share with
them.
Mr. Benish stated that the Commission would see the LTRP, because once it was adopted, the
county would incorporate it into the comp plan.
Old Business/Items for Follow-up.
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Mr. Dotson said that the impetus of county leadership and budget staff seems to be tipping to
identifying affordability up front -- and the park behind Pantops at the hotel is going to be way
down on the list, so they should be realistic about that. He said that the hotel was said to have
no impact on schools, but there were employees and he wondered if there was different
language they could use to reflect that. He stated that many employees in the hospitality
industry are likely to need affordable housing, and perhaps this could be noted in the staff
reports in an effort to promote awareness.
Mr. Keller stated that this was part of the overall affordable housing discussions and how best to
integrate concerns into those.
Mr. Benish noted that staff was in the process of updating the AMI information and would try to
dovetail that into future reports.
New Business.
There was no new business presented.
Adjournment.
At 7:38 p.m., the Commission adjourned to June 4, 2019 Albemarle County Planning
Commission meeting, 6:00 p.m., Lane Auditorium, Second Floor, county Office Building, 401
McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
David Benish, Interim Director of Planning
(Recorded and transcribed by Carolyn S. Shaffer, Clerk to Planning Commission & Planning
Boards)
Approved by Planning Commission
Date: , J I A 0 0
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