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Albemarle County Planning Commission
January 19, 2016
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a meeting on Tuesday, January 19, 2016, at
6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia.
Members attending were Bruce Dotson, Karen Firehock, Tim Keller, Jennie More, Mac Lafferty,
Pam Riley, and Daphne Spain. Julia Monteith, AICP, Senior Land Use Planner for the University
of Virginia was present.
Other officials present were David Benish, Acting Director of Planning; Sharon Taylor, Clerk to
Planning Commission and Greg Kamptner, Deputy County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Benish, acting as temporary chair as this was the first meeting of the New Year, called the
meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum. He noted this meeting is primarily to
go over organizational issues for the Planning Commission.
Brief Background and Comments of Interest from Planning Commissioners
Mr. Benish opened the conversation by starting with Ms. Monteith. He asked each person to
introduce themselves and give a brief background along with any comments you would like to
add about yourself.
`" w Each Commissioner introduced themselves and provided a brief background of their
educational and work experiences along with interests.
There being no further comments, the meeting moved to the next agenda item.
Election of Officers: Chairman and Vice -Chairman:
Mr. Benish opened nominations for the election of Chair of the Planning Commission for the
upcoming year.
Mr. Lafferty nominated Bruce Dotson to be Chair for 2016.
Mr. Dotson thanked Mr. Lafferty for the nomination, but declined the nomination. If it is
appropriate he would offer one nomination for Tim Keller to serve as Chair for this next year.
He understands the process nominations are not like a motion where you need a second; it is
simply a nomination.
Mr. Kamptner noted that actually seconds are not required. The rules of procedures don't
establish any rules since we were really just trying to get to a majority vote for a nominee.
Mr. Benish said without a second we can offer it up for a discussion.
Ms. Firehock noted that we would want to know if Mr. Keller would accept before starting the
discussion.
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Mr. Lafferty said Mr. Keller would be an excellent Chair.
Mr. Keller agreed he would be interested in chairing the Commission particularly because of
issues he thinks will before the Commission in the next year. Through that time period one of
the top elements being that this is a year in which we will see Mr. Cilimberg depart the county
and his replacement be hired. He thinks that is going to be a very important hire for the county,
as well as other folks like our county attorney and police chief who will be retiring. He thinks
there is a great deal of institutional knowledge that these folks who are retiring have and we
need to think very carefully and selectively who will be their replacements. He hopes that the
Commission will have an opportunity to weigh in to that process.
Mr. Benish asked if there were any other nominations. There being none, he closed the
nominations and called for a vote.
Mr. Kamptner asked Mr. Lafferty if he had another nomination.
Mr. Lafferty withdrew his nomination.
Mr. Kamptner noted having a single nominee at this point we would need a roll call vote.
Mr. Benish asked for a roll call.
Ms. Taylor called the roll.
The nomination of Tim Keller as Chair of the Planning Commission for 2016 carried by a vote of
(6:0:1). (Mr. Keller abstained)
Mr. Benish turned the meeting over to Mr. Keller, Chair.
Mr. Keller asked for nominations for Vice Chair of the Planning Commission for 2016.
Mr. Lafferty nominated Karen Firehock to be Vice Chair for 2016 and asked if she was going to
be traveling as much this year.
Ms. Firehock replied that she had tried to religiously guard Tuesday evenings.
Mr. Lafferty noted that his motion stands.
Mr. Keller invited further discussion.
Mr. Dotson noted one of the things that Ms. Firehock did not point out, but just in terms of
experience, was she was chair of the City's Planning Commission.
Ms. Firehock pointed out she was on the City Planning Commission for four years and was
chairman for part of that time.
Mr. Dotson pointed out that both Ms. Firehock and Mr. Keller are relative newcomers and
perhaps as a team he thinks they can help in terms of the process of the Commission to breathe
new life into it.
Mr. Keller closed the nominations and called for the vote.
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The nomination of Karen Firehock as Vice Chair of the Planning Commission for 2016 carried
by a vote of (6:0).
Mr. Kamptner pointed out the Commission does not need to appoint a secretary. The
Commission amended its rules a couple of years ago to make that a standing appointment so
the Director of Planning serves as the secretary to the Commission.
Mr. Keller welcomed the vice chair.
The meeting moved to the next agenda item.
Committee Assignments & Reports:
Mr. Keller said the committee assignments was really quite important. In appointing the various
Commissioners based on the experience that Ms. Firehock and he had when we arrived a
couple of years ago there really was not a comprehensive discussion of all the committee
assignments. Everyone feels that it is really important that we hear from staff an outline of
these and then with that annotated by individual members. He would just say up front in his
case the committees that he was serving on if there are particular interests to new
Commissioners he was willing to have that move. He pointed out to Ms. Spain that he had filled
in on the Pantops Committee because there are so many committee assignments in your
district, and that is something we are going to have to grapple with. He had found that
committee to be quite useful, and thinks she might as well. He asked Mr. Benish to walk the
Commission through the list.
`%NW Mr. Benish reviewed the committee assignment list noting the vacancies and outlining the
commitment and responsibilities of each with input from Commissioners. He explained that not
all of the committees listed actually require a Planning Commission appointee, but either that
has been the tradition or because of interests by a Planning Commissioner they are on those
committees. So this time of year staff provides that list. The committee list sent out today
showed who had served over the past year. However, the first committee list shows the
vacancies. He would go down the list and review each committee outlining the commitment and
responsibilities of each. Probably what is the most value to the Commissioners is what it means
for you in your commitment to do that.
Ms. Firehock said she thinks it is important to throw this out there and as far as she was
concerned all of the committees would be up for whoever wants to be put on them. We have
talked about not deciding that tonight, but just going over what they all are. But, if someone is
currently on a committee and they really want to stay on that committee they can let the chair
know. She just wanted them all to be open so if somebody is interested in a committee and a
current member is serving on it that shouldn't preclude anyone from expressing an interest in
that committee. She asked that everyone indicate what they would like to do.
Mr. Dotson agreed they should treat them as if they are all open; however, a certain district
Commissioner is supposed to be on a few of the committees by board direction.
It was the consensus of the Commission that all committee assignments would be treated as
"open" and that each Commissioner would express their interest in an email sent to staff and the
Chair by next Monday in order to compile a list for discussion at the next meeting under old
business. The list of appointments would be finalized at a time in the future.
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Other comments made were:
Ms. Monteith noted Bill Palmer had been appointed as her replacement as UVA
Representative. Bill Palmer introduced himself.
Ms. More said out of respect for Tom Loach, since she had been working with him as chair of
the Crozet CAC, that she wanted to put out there that he had hopes to keep working toward
creating more connections between the CAC's as more are popping up.
The Commission discussed and supported Mr. Loach's idea of having chairs of the different
CAC's meet once or twice a year. A suggestion was made that the annual meeting would be
one such opportunity where multiple CAC members could engage in broader group discussions.
The meeting moved to the next agenda item.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Mr. Keller invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda including
consent agenda items. There being none, the meeting moved to the next item.
Discussion of meeting procedures
Mr. Keller noted the next item was the discussion of meeting procedures. He asked if there
were any questions.
Ms. Firehock asked if the meeting procedures needed to be read into the record.
Mr. Kamptner replied that the Commission did not need to do that. The rules that are in front of
the Commission are the same rules that were adopted and there was a number of amendments
last year. Staff has provided the Commission with the unchanged version that was in effect last
year.
Mr. Lafferty said he thinks Ms. Firehock's suggestion that the Commission take a look at
procedures, particularly on the transitions be done and maybe define the terms of office more
explicitly. He would also like it included that if you deny a motion you should express why so it
goes into the minutes. Then when the Board reads the minutes they understand what the
objections were.
Mr. Keller suggested that Mr. Lafferty and Ms. Firehock consider doing a committee of two to go
through some of the issues that have come up with the nominating committee and whether we
should have an official nominating committee and how that might work and looking at the length
of the chair and vice chair position. He knows that they have a sister jurisdiction where there is
a one year with an opportunity for a second appointment and then that is the end of the term for
instance.
Mr. Kamptner noted by statute the terms are one year, but certainly the city chair and vice chair
can be reelected.
Mr. Keller asked if they could put a proviso that they don't go past two.
Mr. Kamptner replied that they would have to look at that.
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Mr. Lafferty pointed out that was just the expression of the Board.
Mr. Keller noted if the committee recommended to us and we concurred, then the Commission
could ask the Board to set that as our policy. That is the policy in the city, for instance, and he
thinks there is merit to that.
Mr. Lafferty pointed out his personal feeling is don't box yourself in like that because you may
have a group that no one wants it except the present holder of the office.
Mr. Kamptner suggested if it was stated in less than mandatory words, then that would be fine
as a preference or a policy to encourage this.
Ms. Firehock suggested that it be a desired practice, but not a hard rule so that if you had that
situation.
Mr. Keller asked if the Commission would like to ask Mr. Lafferty and Ms. Firehock to make
some proposals for us all to consider.
Ms. Riley asked for clarification if he was talking about specifically the term of office under
officers. She asked if that is the concern.
Mr. Keller added the nomination committee.
Ms. Firehock pointed out there was a process of how you actually nominate and elect officers.
She had raised that simply because of not knowing who is running this meeting and how we are
going to convene it. So she sent an email several weeks ago saying what are we doing, how
does it work and she did not understand and please tell me what the process is. The answer
was it was informal, and since that is confusing she would like to maybe think about that. She
did not have the time by the time she got the response to actually create some new process for
the county to bring to the Commission to vote on. In my mind she thought maybe the
Commission should revisit that and adopt something down the road for the future so that we all
know what the process is.
Mr. Lafferty agreed and pointed out he would be glad to work with Ms. Firehock. He could point
out what could go wrong from last year; how that caused division in the committee; and did not
want to see that again. He thinks if they have better guidelines to go by it will make it a lot
easier for everybody.
Ms. Firehock agreed to work with Mr. Lafferty. However, she did not think they would be able to
achieve that this evening.
Mr. Dotson asked if they need a motion.
Mr. Kamptner suggested that there needs to be two motions. The first motion would be to
appoint the two member committee. He asked Mr. Lafferty and Ms. Firehock to recognize that
every time they get together to work on this that it is a meeting of the two member committee
and the agenda needs to be posted.
Motion: Mr. Dotson moved and Ms. More seconded to appoint a two member committee as
Mr. Kamptner stated.
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The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Mr. Kamptner suggested related so that you two are not under the gun to get something quickly,
if it is the Commission's desire to go ahead and adopt these rules for now recognizing that the
committee will come back with proposed amendments at some point in the year.
Mr. Keller asked if everyone agreed with that.
Motion: Mr. Lafferty moved and Mr. Dotson seconded to adopt the Rules and Procedures as
recommended by staff, recognizing that the committee will come back with proposed
amendments at some point in the year.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
In summary, the Planning Commission held a discussion on meeting procedures and the Rules
of Procedure and took the following actions:
APPOINTED, by a vote of 7:0, a two member subcommittee consisting of Ms. Firehock and Mr.
Lafferty to work on Rules of Procedure specifically meeting procedures. Any changes will be
brought back to the Commission for review and adoption.
ADOPTED, by a vote of 7:0, the Rules and Procedures as recommended by staff, recognizing
that the committee will come back with proposed amendments at some point in the year.
The meeting moved to the next agenda item.
Set Meeting Time, Day, and Location for 2016
Mr. Keller asked if the Commission was prepared to approve the meeting schedule.
Motion: Ms. Firehock moved and Mr. Lafferty seconded to approve the meeting schedule as
proposed in the agenda packet.
The motion passed by a vote of 7:0.
Mr. Keller noted the Planning Commission's meeting dates, times and location for 2016 was
approved as recommended by staff and outlined in Attachment 1 of the action memo with
meetings to be held in the auditorium, unless otherwise noted, beginning at.6:00 p.m.
Attachment 1
Planning Commission 2016 Schedule
PUBLIC HEARINGS,
WAIVERS AND
MINISTERIAL APPEALS
WORK SESSIONS
NO SCHEDULED MEETING
January 12, 2016
January 19, 2016*
January 5, 2016*
January 26, 2016
February 2, 2016
February 9, 2016
February 16, 2016*
February 23, 2016
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March 1, 2016
March 8, 2016
March 22, 2016
March 15, 2016
March 29, 2014
April 5, 2016
Aril 12, 2016*
Aril 26, 2016
April 19, 2016
May 3, 2016
May 10, 2016
May 24, 2016
May 17, 2016
Mav 31, 2016*
June 7, 2016
June 28, 2016
June 14, 2016
June 21, 2016
July 12, 2105
July 19, 2016
July 5, 2016*
July 26, 2016
August 2, 2016
August 9, 2016
August 23, 2016
August 16, 2016
August 30, 2016
September 13, 2016
September 20, 2016
September 6, 2016*
September 27, 2016
October 11, 2016
October 18, 2016
October 4, 2016
October 25, 2016
November 15, 2016
November 1, 2016
November 8, 2016
November 29, 2016*
November 22, 2016*
December 8, 2016
December 1, 2016*
December 22, 2016
December 15, 2016
December 29, 2016*
January 10, 2017
January 17, 2017*
January 3, 2017*
January 24, 2017
January 31, 2017
February 7, 2017
February 14, 2017
February 16, 2017*
February 21, 2017
March 7, 2017
March 14, 2017
March 28, 2017
March 21, 2017
*Follows a Holiday during the preceding week.
**Election Day.
Highlighted Planning Commission meeting dates in 2017 are based on application submittal
dates in 2016.
Other Matters Not on the Agenda from the Public
Again, but at the end of the meeting, Mr. Keller invited comment from the public on other
matters not listed on the agenda including consent agenda items. There being none, the
meeting moved to the next item.
Ms. Firehock noted the Review of the Board of Supervisors Meeting was on the agenda.
Review of Board of Supervisors Meeting - January 6, 2016.
Mr. Benish deferred the review of the actions taken on above date to the next Planning
Commission meeting.
Old Business
Mr. Keller asked if there was any old business. There being none, the meeting proceeded.
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New Business
Mr. Keller asked if there was any new business.
• Staff introduced new Planner Paty Saternye.
• Contact information — address listing (At a minimum need email and phone number)
• Upcoming Planning Academy to be scheduled in February — Optional for Planning
Commission
• The next Planning Commission meeting will be held on Tuesday, January 26, 2016.
There being no further new business, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m. to the Tuesday, January 26, 2016
Albemarle County Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 p.m., Auditorium, Second Floor,
County Office Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
David Benish, Secretary
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon C. Taylor, Clerk to Planning Commission & Planning Boards)
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