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August 23, 2011
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a regular meeting on Tuesday, August 23, 2011, at
6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Lane Auditorium, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road,
Charlottesville, Virginia.
Members attending were Duane Zobrist, Chair, Ed Smith, Thomas Loach, Linda Porterfield, Don Franco
and Calvin Morris, Vice Chair. Members absent were Russell (Mac) Lafferty and Julia Monteith, AICP,
Senior Land Use Planner for the University of Virginia (UVA Architect — Ex-officio).
Other officials present were Gerald Gatobu, Principal Planner; Judith Wiegand, Senior Planner; Eryn
Brennan, Senior Planner; Ron Higgins, Chief of Zoning; David Benish, Chief of Planning; and Greg
Kamptner, Deputy County Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Zobrist, Chairman, called the regular meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum.
Matters from the Public not Listed on the Agenda
Mr. Zobrist invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda. There being none,
the meeting proceeded to the next item.
Regular Items
SDP-2011-00041 Ntelos Owensville Road/Cantrell Property
PROPOSED: Treetop personal wireless service facility with a steel monopole that would be
approximately 112 feet tall (7 feet above the height of the reference tree), and ground equipment, within a
2,500 square foot lease area.
ZONING CATEGORY/GENERAL USAGE: Rural Area (RA)
SECTION: Chapter 18 Section 10.2.1 of the Zoning Ordinance
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Rural Area in Rural Area 1
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
LOCATION: Approximately 650 feet east of Owensville Road [Route 676] approximately 0.20 miles
north of the intersection of Owensville Road and Old Ballard Road [Route 677]. The property address is
1925 Owensville Road.
TAX MAP/PARCEL: Tax Map 43 Parcel 16G
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Samuel Miller
(Gerald Gatobu)
Mr. Smith recused himself from SDP-2011-00041, Ntelos Owensville Road/Cantrell Property and left the
meeting room at 6:02 p.m.
Mr. Gatobu presented a PowerPoint presentation and summarized the staff report.
• The most important principle for siting personal wireless facilities in Albemarle County is
visibility.
• The proposed tower will be 111.6 feet tall. Ground equipment will be within a 2,500 square foot
lease area. The monopole is sufficiently mitigated.
• A balloon test was conducted on March 30, 2011.
Nupw • Ground Equipment will not be visible from Owensville Road.
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• The applicant has submitted a Fall Zone easement document as shown in Attachment E of the
staff report that will prohibit development on the abutting lot [TMP 43-16] within the monopoles
fall zone. (Height of the monopole extends beyond the property line by about 39 feet).
• No loss of historical and scenic resources related to the installation of the tower is expected.
• The tower will serve a public purpose by providing cell phone coverage on Owensville Road
[State Route 676], Old Ballard Road [State Route 6771 and Old Ballard Farm Lane [Private].
Staff recommends approval of this personal wireless service facility at the proposed height of seven (7)
feet above the reference tree.
Mr. Zobrist invited questions for staff. There being none, the public hearing was opened, and the
applicant invited to address the Planning Commission.
Valerie Long, representative for the applicant, Intelos, presented a PowerPoint presentation and explained
the proposal.
• Intelos is working to improve its wireless coverage throughout Albemarle County, particularly in
the Ivy area. The variable topography in this area makes it challenging to provide coverage with
the tree top poles. The Cantrells own the last remaining large parcels in this area. The general
area is surrounded essentially on three sides by small scale residential subdivisions. The
coverage objective for Intelos in this area is to improve its coverage on Owensville Road and also
to provide in building coverage to the residences in this area. Obviously, to provide in building
coverage to residences they need antennas that are fairly close to the residences. In conjunction
with the Wireless Policy and the Comprehensive Plan policy, they look for areas that are as open
as possible that have tall trees where they can locate the pole within a grove of preferably very
tall trees.
• An overview of the general area was shown in photographs. She explained their objective was to
provide an improvement in coverage on Owensville Road and in building coverage. They tried to
locate the monopole in an area of tall pine trees. The existing farm entrance provides a
convenient location for the access road. Therefore, they can use the existing road and only take
down a few trees for the extension of the access road.
• She noted the location of the monopole on the site plan. The monopole will be 111' tall, which is
7 feet above the top of the reference tree. The Wireless Ordinance has certain design criteria.
They comply with all the design requirements from the ordinance for the dimensions of the pole;
the antennas are flush mounted and will be painted brown. They don't expect the ground
equipment to be visible from Owensville Road or from any other properties. With the existing
cleared areas, a minimum amount of trees will need to be removed.
• The issue is whether the facility is sited to minimize visibility from the surrounding
neighborhoods, residences, and streets. They have struck a balance there in trying to provide
coverage for the surrounding roads and neighborhoods and to screen the facility.
Mr. Zobrist invited public comment. There being none, the public hearing was closed, and the matter was
placed before the Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Morris moved and Mr. Loach seconded to approve SDP 2011-00041 Cantrell Property
(Ntelos) Tier II Personal Wireless Facility at the proposed height of seven (7) feet above the reference
tree.
The motion passed unanimously by a vote of (5:0:1). (Mr. Smith recused.)
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Mr. Zobrist noted that SDP 2011-00041 Cantrell Property (Ntelos) Tier II Personal Wireless Facility was
approved at the proposed height of seven (7) feet above the reference tree. This is not a matter that
requires Board approval.
Mr. Smith returned to the meeting at 6:15 p.m.
Public Hearing Items
SP-2010-00055 Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center (SAIL) - Day Care; PROPOSED: SP-
2010-00055 Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center (SAIC) - Day Care: Child day care (50 children
per day) and adult day care (80 adults per day); SP201000056 Southern Albemarle Intergenerational
Center (SAIC) - Community Center: Community center for dental clinic, day care, and community
activities in new 12,000 square building
ZONING CATEGORY/GENERAL USAGE: RA -- Rural Areas: agricultural, forestal, and fishery uses;
residential density (0.5 unit/acre in development lots)
SECTION: SP201000055: 10.2.2.7 Day care, child care or nursery facility (reference 5.1.06)
SP201000056: 10.2.2.1 Community center (reference 5.1.04)
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Rural Areas - preserve and protect agricultural,
forestal, open space, and natural, historic and scenic resources/ density (.5 unit/ acre in development lots)
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: Yes
LOCATION: 2256 Irish Rd (Route 6), approximately 1 mile east of the intersection with Porters Rd
(Route 627) TAX MAP/PARCEL: 128000000109AO
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Scottsville
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SP-2010-00056 Southern Albemarle Intereenerational Center (SAIC) - Community Center
SP-2010-00055 Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center (SAIC) - Day Care: Child day care (50
children per day) and adult day care (80 adults per day); SP201000056 Southern Albemarle
Intergenerational Center (SAIC) - Community Center: Community center for dental clinic, day care, and
community activities in new 12,000 square building
ZONING CATEGORY/GENERAL USAGE: RA -- Rural Areas: agricultural, forestal, and fishery uses;
residential density (0.5 unit/acre in development lots)
SECTION: SP201000055: 10.2.2.7 Day care, child care or nursery facility (reference 5.1.06)
SP201000056: 10.2.2.1 Community center (reference 5.1.04)
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Rural Areas - preserve and protect agricultural,
forestal, open space, and natural, historic and scenic resources/ density (.5 unit/ acre in development lots)
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: Yes
LOCATION: 2256 Irish Rd (Route 6), approximately 1 mile east of the intersection with Porters Rd
(Route 627) TAX MAP/PARCEL: 128000000109AO
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Scottsville
(Eryn Brennan)
Ms. Brennan presented a PowerPoint presentation and summarized the staff report.
This is an application for two special use permits. One is to allow a daycare center for both adults and
children. The second is to allow for a community center to accommodate the daycare, an adult daycare
facility, community events, and a new 12,000 square foot building. This is a 16 acre parcel that is
primarily wooded and a 3,500 square foot health care facility and associated parking already exist on the
site.
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The property surrounding the subject parcel is designated rural areas in the Comprehensive Plan and is
included in the rural area zoning district. The subject parcel is located in the southern Albemarle Rural
Historic District. However, the existing building on the site is listed as noncontributing in the National
Register Historic District nomination.
The applicant is requesting two special use permits, the details of which are provided in the following
chart.
Days per Week
Hours of Operation
Number of
Number of
Employees
People
Community
4 days per week max.
9am — 9pm
5 max.
80 max.
Center
*to allow occasional evening
meeting space
Dental Clinic
Monday — Friday
8:00am — 5:00 m
5 max.
20 max.
Child Day
Monday — Friday
lam — 6pm
5 max.
50 max.
Care
One is to allow a child daycare to accommodate up to 50 children per day year round; an adult
daycare/community center to accommodate up to 80 attendees per day. The applicant has noted that the
request will allow up to 80 attendees for the adult daycare/community center. It is based on a maximum
number, which they only expect to achieve a few days a year. On average the applicant anticipates
roughly 30 to 40 maximum per day for the proposed use.
The applicant is also requesting a special use permit for a new 12,000 square foot community center to
accommodate the daycare, dental clinic, and various community activities including an occasional
evening meeting. VDOT calculated the trip generation expected for the proposed uses and determined
that the increase in traffic on Route 6 would be negligible.
Staff has identified the following factors favorable to this application:
1. The parcel is already partially developed to accommodate an existing health facility, and the
proposed new facility would only minimally impact the character of the site.
2. There are no anticipated detrimental impacts on adjacent properties resulting from the proposed
uses.
3. The minor increase in traffic as a result of the proposed uses would not adversely impact traffic in
the area.
4. The proposed uses would support the needs of rural area residents.
The applicant has been made aware that a site plan would be required in addition to health department
approval. Staff has not identified any unfavorable factors for this project.
Therefore, staff recommends approval of SP-2010-55, Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center - Day
Care and SP-2010-56, Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center — Community Center with the
conditions outlined in the staff report.
Mr. Zobrist invited questions for staff. There being none, the public hearing was opened, and the
applicant invited to address the Planning Commission.
Mr. Zobrist invited questions for staff.
Ms. Porterfield asked why the request is for four days a week.
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Ms. Brennan replied that is what the applicant requested. Her understanding is the applicant does not
expect this to be used on a daily basis for an adult daycare. The applicant can explain this better.
Ms. Porterfield asked if staff asked the applicant to limit it.
Ms. Brennan replied no. In fact, staff asked the applicant to expand based on recommendations from
zoning for the time just in case they wanted those evening meetings to have the options available and
open to them to be able to use it.
Ms. Porterfield suggested that it be expanded. The applicant can address the issue when they speak.
Mr. Zobrist opened the public hearing and invited the applicant to address the Commission.
Chris Murray, Business Developer Director, represented the applicant, JABA. Others present were
Cheryl Cooper, Chief Operating Officer and Bill Hughes, Board Member of JABA and Southern
Albemarle Intergenerational Center. He asked Cheryl Cooper to explain the programming and the history
of this project.
Cheryl Cooper, Chief Operating Officer for JABA, said in 2008 a group of local citizens from Scottsville,
Yancey, and Walton Schools, along with the Albemarle County Social Services, met to discuss the need
for quality childcare in southern Albemarle. JABA learned of this interest and introduced the idea of an
intergenerational center in which there would be a childcare program and a new community center for
older adults replacing the centers in Esmont and Scottsville.
Rod Manafold, CEO of Central Virginia Health Services, Inc., the parent organization of Southern
Albemarle Family Practice, proposed sharing their property on Irish Road, the site being considered this
evening. Later in 2008, a feasibility study conducted by Professor Shannon Jarrett, of Virginia Tech
identified strong interest in having a childcare program for southern Albemarle and a positive reaction to
this location. A community center meeting was held to present the project with good attendance and lots
of interest in working on design and fund raising. Since that time work has continued on the conceptual
design and program discussions between the friends of the Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center,
JABA, and the YMCA as the proposed provider for the childcare program. In 2009, JABA held its public
hearing in Scottsville, which included focus groups on the interest of the community for an
intergenerational center. It was a very positive response.
This project is a continuation of JABA's desire to work with local jurisdictions to have an
intergenerational community center in every county. They have partnered with local governments in
Louisa, Greene, and Nelson. This is the opportunity to do the same in Albemarle County. These projects
build on relationships and partnerships within each community to meet identified needs. In this case it is
to provide a site for a quality childcare program and replace two aging facilities that are limiting the
growth of programs for older adults in Albemarle County. Putting the child care and senior centers in the
same facility, they are building on the opportunity for an intergenerational program where youth and
adults share their skills, experience, learn from each other, and enjoy the company of each other. She
thanked the Commission for their consideration of this site.
Ms. Porterfield noted the reason she asked the question about the four day limit is that it seems that they
don't want to limit themselves. It is tougher to go small because they would have to come back to go
bigger. If they really think that they are going to use it four days a week, but might use it eventually for
seven days a week, she felt they should not limit them at this point.
,%W Ms. Cooper said that was great counsel and they were willing to accept that.
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Ms. Porterfield pointed out she was speaking specifically to the community center and the adult day care.
For childcare they have always limited it to Monday through Friday.
Mr. Zobrist invited public comment.
Deborah Kara apologized that she was not prepared because this is the first she was seeing all of this. She
expressed her concern, as she was the key property owner that all this property abuts on. She was
somewhat inquisitive to how people are saying this won't affect her property. She raised concerns.
Primarily she has cattle on this property. She owns the two properties that abut this proposal. She owns
the adjacent property and another small property there. Rock Castle Creek is their main water source,
which is her main concern. Someone came up to her property last year and asked if they could perk on
her land and try to drill water because they could not find and perk for this facility. They are now having
problems with a dry well. She has had to move her cattle off so far this year. The one house already has
one dry well and a new one that is going dry. She is concerned with the idea of suddenly increasing this
facility by five times its size and what that will do to their water source. Additionally, she was concerned
as a property owner that she really values her quiet. She did not want to have 80 screaming children in
her backyard. She cares about lights at night, which would be disruptive to the woods and their ability to
have night skies and other amenities. That is why they live in a rural community. She asked to raise
those issues. The idea of having a center is a good idea. She thinks that anything that helps benefit
Esmont is a good idea, but was hoping that they could allay some of her concerns about the water usage
and any impact it would be having on her farm.
Mr. Zobrist asked if she received the notice for this hearing.
Ms. Kara replied that she received the notice Saturday. It was just a sheet saying that it was a meeting.
She had never seen all of the documents just reviewed.
Ms. Brennan noted that the notification letter was mailed on August 8'I'.
Mr. Zobrist suggested that she talk with Ms. Brennan. Generally, they like to get the notices out so that
they can communicate with the staff and get their concerns aired.
Ms. Kara said it was helpful to see all of the additional documents.
Ms. Porterfield requested to ask a question. She questioned which property she owned.
Ms. Kara replied that they owned the surrounding property. When they built the medical center, they
gave property 20 years ago in order for them to get water. They have two dry wells right now.
Ms. Porterfield suggested if they do have an outside play area they could go in one direction that was
away from her property.
Ms. Kara said anything they could do to keep down the lighting would be appreciated. In the winter time,
they see the driveway lights.
Mr. Zobrist noted that there is a lighting ordinance, which requires down lighting.
Ms. Kara noted the main issue was the water and the noise.
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There being no further public comment, the public hearing was closed, and the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Ms. Porterfield noted that staff had taken care of the outdoor lighting problem with condition 7, which
indicates the full cut-off and shielded fixtures. The lighting should not be a problem. She assumed the
applicant was aware of the water situation in that area. If the other Commissioners agreed, she would like
to change condition 3 not to limit the number of days per week that the community center can operate
from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. She doubts they would use all 7 days, but it gives them the opportunity.
Mr. Franco said he was comfortable with that.
Mr. Morris said he had no objections. He feels that the facilities in Louisa, Greene, and Nelson are all for
five days a week. He requested the Commission ask the applicant to come forward again.
Ms. Cooper said in all those cases they could be operational five days a week. In Greene they are open
two days a week. In Nelson they are open two days a week. In Louisa they are open five days a week
and have an adult daycare as well as their community center there. In those buildings they have other
activities going on. A public library is in Greene. Nelson has an extension service and other activities.
Ms. Porterfield asked if they have anything on Sundays.
Ms. Cooper replied no.
Ms. Porterfield suggested they limit it to Monday through Saturday. She was thinking if they are doing
adult care there are people who work who have to somehow go to the store and do things like that.
fir,; Therefore, they might need the adult care on Saturdays.
Ms. Cooper noted the Charlottesville Center is open on Saturday for adult care.
Ms. Porterfield suggested the condition allow it for six days Monday through Saturday.
Mr. Morris agreed.
Mr. Franco noted condition 6 talks about the number of people or attendees per day. In the past it has
always been a cap on the number of people there at one time versus over the course of a day. It is easier
to count and enforce. He asked if that condition should be reworded.
Ms. Brennan replied that zoning has looked over these conditions, did not express any concern, and
wanted to make just one number for the day. However, it is something staff could entertain.
Mr. Kamptner noted with schools and day cares they have typically put a hard cap rather than at any
given time. Staff can look at that between now and the Board meeting.
Mr. Franco asked to put that on the record that the motion be phrased to allow some change in that
between now and the Board meeting. He would like at least to see some consistency. He understands the
school and some of the other uses. However, when they talk about a community center it probably makes
more sense to have a cap on the number of people there at any one period of time.
Mr. Loach pointed out if they had sessions they could essentially exceed the limit even though they at any
one time don't exceed the limit.
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Mr. Morris agreed that was a good point.
1%W Ms. Porterfield asked if they want to let it go the way it is right now and then let staff work on that.
Mr. Franco agreed that staff and the applicant would work on what are the right number between now and
the Board meeting.
Ms. Porterfield asked with the child care if he was happy with the maximum of 50.
Mr. Franco agreed because that is the way they normally do it.
Ms. Porterfield said when they get to the community center number they need to have a cap on the
number of people there at any one period of time.
When considering the community center amount of people to come staff and the applicant need to work
out something that puts a cap on the number of people at any one time.
MOTION: Ms. Porterfield moved and Mr. Morris seconded to recommend approval of SP-2010-00055
and SP-2010-00056 Southern Albemarle Intergenerational Center Day Care and Community Center,
subject to the conditions recommended by staff, as amended.
Development of the use shall be in general accord with the Concept Plan entitled Southern
Albemarle Intergenerational Center for SP2010-55 and SP2010-56, prepared by Meridian
Planning Group, LLC, and dated December 17, 2010, (hereinafter, the "Conceptual Plan"), as
determined by the Director of Planning and the Zoning Administrator.
To be in general accord with the plan, development shall reflect the following central features
essential to the design of the development:
• The size and location of the proposed building
• The location of the parking area
Minor modifications to the plan which do not conflict with the elements above may be made to
ensure compliance with the Zoning Ordinance.
2. The hours of operation for the child day care shall not begin earlier than 7:00 AM and shall end
not later than 6:00 PM, Monday through Friday.
3. The hours of operation for the community center and the adult daycare shall not begin earlier than
9:00 AM and shall end not later than 9:00 PM, Monday through Saturday.
4. The hours of operation for the dental office shall not begin earlier than 8:00 AM and shall end not
later than 5:00 PM, Monday through Friday.
5. The maximum number of employees for the child day care, the community center, and the dental
office shall not exceed a total of 15 on any given day.
6. The maximum number of children for the child day care shall not exceed 50 per day; the
maximum number of attendees for the community center shall not exceed 80 per day; and
the maximum number of patients for the dental office shall not exceed 20 per day.
(Staff and the applicant need to establish the maximum total number of attendees on site at
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any one time prior to Board review.)
7. Any outdoor lighting shall be only full cut-off fixtures and shielded to reflect light away from all
abutting properties. A lighting plan limiting light levels at all property lines to no greater than 0.3
foot candles shall be submitted to the Zoning Administrator or their designee for approval.
8. If the use, structure, or activity for which this special use permit is issued is not commenced by
October 1, 2016, the permit shall be deemed abandoned and the authority granted there under
shall thereupon terminate.
The motion passed unanimously by a vote of (6:0).
Mr. Zobrist said SP-2010-00055 and SP-2010-00056 would be forwarded with a recommendation for
approval to the Board of Supervisors to a date to be determined.
Mr. Zobrist noted that Ms. Wiegand is retiring at the end of the month. This will be her last appearance
before the Commission. The Commission wants to express their gratitude and thanks to her for all her
hard work and wonderful things she has done for the County during her career.
ZNU-2010-00011, Estes Park
PROPOSAL: Rezone 12.75 acres on Tax Map/Parcel 03200000003300 and TMP 03200000003400 from
R-1, Residential zoning district which allows 1 unit/acre to PRD, Planned Residential Development
zoning district which allows residential (3 — 34 units/acre) with limited commercial uses and to rezone
0.56 acres on Tax Map/Parcel 046134000000500 from R-1 Residential zoning district to R-1 Residential
zoning district with proffers. Proposed number of units is 68 for a density of 5.33 units/acre.
PROFFERS: Yes EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE/DENSITY: Urban Density
Residential — residential (6.01 — 34 units/ acre); supporting uses such as religious institutions, schools,
commercial, office and service uses.
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
LOCATION: in the southeast quadrant of the intersection of Profit Road (Rt 649) and Worth Crossing,
approximately 800 feet south of Proffit Road in the Community of Hollymead.
TAX MAP/PARCEL: TMP 03200000003300, TMP 03200000003400, and TMP 046134000000500
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Rivanna
(Judy Wiegand)
Ms. Wiegand presented a PowerPoint presentation and summarized the staff report.
This is a zoning map amendment to rezone two parcels that are currently zoned R-1, Residential to
Planned Residential Development (PRD) in order to permit the development of a new neighborhood with
68 single-family detached homes, a street network, an inter -parcel connection to Moubry Lane and 25
percent open space.
The future Land Use Map from Places29 Master Plan designates this area as Urban Density Residential.
The Neighborhood Density Residential generally expects a density range of 6.01 units to 34 units per
acre. This particular project has a density of 5.3 units per acre. It is a little under the minimum. However,
staff believes that this is compatible with the land use designation because they are single-family detached
homes and a 12.75 acre parcel.
A neighborhood of 68 single-family dwellings will fit in well with surrounding townhouses, duplexes,
and (further away) other single-family dwellings. The proposed development is in compliance with the
Master Plan.
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Two parcels —and several of the surrounding ones —are zoned R-1, Residential. With a density bonus,
the result would be a maximum of 18 units that could be built on this site under the current zoning.
Rezoning to a Planned Residential Development district allows the 68 units, along with a road network,
and 25% open space.
The application plan: focus first on two parcels —
Road network —The main entrance from Worth Crossing into the proposed Estes Park development goes
across the property now owned by Bright Beginning's daycare. They have jointly used the entrance.
Bright Beginnings has submitted a special use permit to expand the daycare and have shown the same
entrance road on that application plan with the special use permit. The main entrance with Bright
Beginnings daycare property is being worked out —Proffer # 1.
There is a stream on the property, which starts north of the property and flows diagonally through the
property. The applicant by making good use of the proposed 25 percent open space has managed to keep
the main segment of the stream as an amenity in the open space. There will be some piping of it and
some impacts to the critical slopes that are on the sides of it where the road crosses the stream.
Road network through rest of proposed development -
Inter -parcel connection proposed to Moubry Lane, which serves the Forest Ridge neighborhood of 44
duplex units. Forest Ridge was originally planned and built in the mid-1990s. The opportunity for this
connection (cul-de-sac) was set up at that time so that the connection could be made. The applicant at the
County's request included that as a second entrance to the development. Most of the traffic is expected to
come in from the main entrance from Worth Crossing. The applicant has worked with the County and
VDOT staff to discourage a "speedway" where traffic would race through either neighborhood
,% • because of the way the roads intersect —right or left turns, stop signs,
• Estes Park streets will be narrow, and
• Moubry Lane will be narrowed for a sidewalk and planting strip on the east side. (Proffer #2)
The posted speed will be 25 miles per hour on all new streets and continue on Moubry Lane.
Moubry Lane right now from curve to curve is 38' wide. The applicant has proposed to put in a sidewalk
and planting strip along the eastern side of Moubry Lane as part of both traffic calming and to make a
safer place for Moubry Lane residents to walk. It would narrow the street to about 30', which would still
allow parking on both sides and help with making the street look a little narrower to make it less
encouraging for people to go zooming through there. Staff and VDOT feel that the people using this road
system once it is completed are going to be the residents of Forest Ridge and the proposed Estes Park.
After looking at the area road network they don't believe this is going to be an encouragement to cut
through traffic. It will be the residents of the two areas, guests, visitors and the occasional delivery truck.
An important aspect of the proposed development is that it will provide residents of Forest Ridge an
alternative route to Worth Crossing that doesn't involve turning out onto Proffit Road. Instead, they will
be able to drive through Estes Park and out onto Worth Crossing —to the stores just across the street or
elsewhere. This will actually provide a benefit to them.
Neighborhood Concerns:
The applicant has met several times with the neighbors, in particular the Forest Ridge residents. Staff has
attended one neighborhood meeting and met with neighborhood representatives several times to discuss
concerns. The following are the most important concerns that have been raised.
1. Cut -through traffic speeding through Forest Ridge —lack of a safe place to walk along Moubry
Lane; residents now walk in the street; children play in cul-de-sac area, which is used as a
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gathering place. The cul-de-sac would be removed as part of the connection to the street, which
is a requirement of VDOT that the rest of the cul-de-sac be taken out.
2. Moubry Lane becoming the main entrance into Estes Park
3. Cul-de-sac as gathering place and play area
4. Removal of trees and habitat on Estes property
5. Views of Estes Park from adjacent property; buffers?
The applicant has tried to address concern # 1 by proffering a sidewalk. The applicant has tried to
reassure the residents by rewriting proffer #1 so that this development will not be constructed unless that
entrance over the Bright Beginning's property is built. There is a small pedestrian type access that goes
down to a multiple acre part of Forest Ridge. There is a stream running through there. It is
topographically challenged. There could be some place back there to put a possible play area if they
chose to do so. There is a homeowner association that could try to address that as a way of replacing the
cul-de-sac should they chose to do so.
The applicant currently is showing some narrow buffer areas between their development and the adjacent
development. The zoning ordinance does not require buffers between one residential area and another.
Since these lots might be narrow there might be lots backing up to the edge of the property, which is
permitted under the current zoning ordinance. These will be single-family homes with landscaping. Staff
does not think there should be a problem for one home to look at another one.
Traffic Distribution & Turn Lane Analysis
❑ The proposed 68 units are expected to generate approximately 729 trips per day
❑ Trips during AM peak: 57 (in + out)
❑ Trips during PM peak: 74 (in + out)
❑ Turn lane analysis for Proffit Road/Moubry Lane
❑ No left turn lane required at this time
❑ A right turn taper is nearly required on both Proffit Road and Worth Crossing
Proffit Road: 5,700 vehicles per day (some improvements are planned, but not funded at this time)
Worth Crossing: 1,800 vehicles per day
Moubry Lane: 280 vehicles per day
The other part of the traffic study done was a turn lane analysis for that entrance between Proffit Road
and Moubry Lane. Basically, after looking at all the figures the traffic analysis said that no additional left
turn lane was required from Proffit Road onto Moubry Lane. The turn lane and right turn taper are not
warranted at this time. As noted in the staff report, it is not expected to cause adverse impacts at this
time. If the background traffic increases or additional development takes place in the area, Proffit Road
improvements, including the turn lane and right turn taper will be necessary. Staff would like to point out
that traffic on Moubry Lane and Estes Park streets will be from those two neighborhoods; we do not
expect cut -through traffic because of the design of the road network.
Staff reviewed the applicant's six (6) draft proffers, which are included in the staff report.
Proffer 1: Worth Crossing Connection
The Owner shall complete construction and make improvements to the portion of "Road B" that provides
a vehicular connection from the northern boundary of the Project to Worth Crossing, as shown on the
Application Plan, to the standards contained in Sections 14-41 OH and 14-422 of the County Code and as
shown as ["Typical Street Section ('52 Public R/W)" on sheet 3 of the Application Plan entitled "Site
Plan" (the "Worth Crossing Connection")]. The Owner shall not submit the final subdivision plat or final
site plan for the Project for approval by the County unless it includes the Worth Crossing Connection.
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The Worth Crossing Connection shall be constructed to Virginia Department of Transportation standards
NNW and that all necessary lands determined by VDOT will be dedicated to public use as part of that first
subdivision plat or in conjunction with the first site plan. The Worth Crossing Connection shall be used
for Construction access and completed prior to issuance of a building permit for any dwelling units within
the Project. For the purposes of this paragraph, construction of the Worth Crossing Connection shall be
deemed complete when it is constructed in conformance with the plans approved by VDOT and the
County Engineer has determined it is safe and convenient for vehicular travel.
Proffer # 1 makes four important points:
1. The proffer requires completion of the primary entrance road over property owned by the owners of
the Bright Beginnings day care center. The applicants have been negotiating with Bright Beginning's
owners and, once the rezoning has been approved, will go ahead with dedication and construction.
2. The final subdivision plat or final site plan may not be submitted for County approval unless the
connection is included.
3. The connection will be dedicated to public use as part of the first subdivision plat or in conjunction
with the first site plan.
4. The connection shall be used for construction access and completed prior to issuance of a building
permit for any dwelling units within the Project. In other words, the developer will not begin construction
of the rest of the project until the Worth Crossing Connection is constructed.
Staff supports this proffer. Unless the terms of it are fulfilled and the Worth Crossing Connection
completed, the rest of the development will not begin. This addresses staff s and the neighbors' concern
that Moubry Lane would end up being used as the primary entrance for Estes Park.
The County Attorney is still reviewing this language —staff received this revised language about two
weeks ago. Minor changes for form may need to be made between this public hearing and the Board's
public hearing, but staff expects the content of this proffer to remain the same.
Proffer 2: Moubry Lane Sidewalk
The Owner shall construct a sidewalk, utility strip, and associated drainage facilities within the existing
public right-of-way on one side of Moubry Lane from the point where Road A connects to Moubry Lane
to the point where Moubry Lane connects to Proffit Road, to the standards and in the location shown on
the Application Plan (the "Moubry Lane Sidewalk"). The aggregate cost of the Moubry Lane Sidewalk
and drainage improvements are referred to as the "Sidewalk Expense." In the event that the Forest Ridge
Home Owners' Association is opposed to having this improvement installed, upon giving written notice
to the Owner and Albemarle County, the Sidewalk Expense credit will be removed from the Cash
Proffers referenced in Proffer #3.
Proffer #2 promises the construction of a sidewalk, utility strip, and drainage facilities along the eastern
edge of Moubry Lane. This sidewalk will provide a safer place for Forest Ridge residents and others to
walk. Right now there is no sidewalk; Forest Ridge was built before the County required sidewalks and
street trees on neighborhood streets. This proffer grew out of Forest Ridge residents' concern that there
would be no place for them to walk safely once the interparcel connection was made and the cul-de-sac
removed. The proffer will have a second benefit in addition to the sidewalk: narrowing the right-of-way
on Moubry Lane will act as a traffic -calming facility. When residents and visitors park their cars on
Moubry Lane, then that would further "calm" traffic. The proffer also provides that the expense for this
sidewalk and related facilities will be a credit against the cash proffer for capital improvements. Staff
believes this is an excellent way to deal with the increase of traffic on Moubry Lane to give the residents a
place to walk. The mailboxes will be moved to the utility strip. Staff supports having an expense credit
against the capital improvements because if the applicant was not building this the county would probably
need to look at doing it because they do need a sidewalk on that street.
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Proffer 3: Cash for Capital Improvement Proiects
p`rr This is the first of the two proffers where the staff does not believe that the applicant has followed the
direction that was given by the Board of Supervisors in the Cash Proffer Policy. As explained in the staff
report the Proffer Policy says that one should pay the cash proffer amount on all of the units being put in.
The applicant has asked that they only do it on the 50 units that they are adding that would not be
permitted there by right. This is something that relates to the Board's policy. Therefore, the Board is
going to make a decision. Staff wanted to raise this issue with the Commission since it will be going on
to the Board. The two blanks will be filled in before the request goes to the Board for the total amount of
dollars and the amount for each unit as well as the sidewalk expense.
Proffer 4: Affordable Housing
This is the 15% of the rezoning units. Again, there is a difference of opinion as to what 15% of what
amount. The Affordable Housing Policy says it should be 15% of all of the units provided that are going
to be built. The applicant has done it on the 50 rezoning units. This is an issue the Board will need to
address. Staff did not put all of the for sale unit language in that deals with actual provision of units. It is
staff's understanding the applicant has worked with the Chief of Housing, Ron White, and is expecting to
proffer to give cash in lieu of units. In addition, the County Attorney has informed staff that the language
related to the units themselves may need to be changed. A revision to it is being worked on. The
applicant has addressed the affordable housing in this manner. The language issue will be resolved before
the proffers are presented to the Board.
Proffer 5: Moubry Lane Interconnection
To minimize impacts of constructing the connection between Road A and Moubry Lane as shown on the
Application Plan (the "Moubry Lane Interconnection") on the residents of Forest Ridge, the following
terms and conditions shall apply to the construction of the Moubry Lane Interconnection:
a. The Owner shall not commence construction of the Moubry Lane Interconnection until
construction of all other roads and infrastructure within the Project is nearing completion, such that the
Moubry Lane Interconnection is the last road segment within the Project for which construction will be
commenced.
b. The Moubry Lane Interconnection shall not be used for construction access associated with the
Project, except as necessary for construction of the Moubry Lane Interconnection itself, and except
further for construction of the Moubry Lane Sidewalk and associated drainage facilities.
c. The Owner shall remove the cul-de-sac at Moubry Lane at the time of construction of the
Moubry Lane Interconnection. This area will be planted and improvements installed in accordance with
the Application Plan.
Proffer 6 — Erosion & Sediment Control
a. Erosion and Sediment Control. The Owner shall, to the maximum extent practicable as
determined by the County's Program Authority, provide additional erosion and sediment controls
to achieve a sediment removal rate of eighty percent (80%) for the Property. (As a reference,
current regulatory structural measures achieve a 60% optimal removal rate.)
b. Revegetation. Within nine (9) months after the start of grading under any erosion and sediment
control permit, permanent vegetation shall be installed on all denuded areas, except for areas the
Program Authority determines are otherwise permanently stabilized or are under construction
with an approved building permit. A three (3) month extension for installation of permanent
vegetation may be granted by the Program Authority due to special circumstances including but
not limited to weather conditions.
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Staff would note that the part about revegetation is something that is now covered in the ordinance.
Therefore, the applicant may be asked to take that out since they don't normally include in the proffers
things that are required by the ordinance.
Critical Slopes Waiver
The applicant has applied for a critical slopes waiver to deal with the little pieces where the road goes
over the stream. The total site is 12.75 acres. The critical slopes are about 2% of that site. Staff
recommends approval of that.
Factors Favorable:
1. The project would result in a neighborhood of 68 residences close to major employers expected to
add jobs in the future and within walking distance of retail and services.
2. The new development will be single-family detached homes at a density and scale compatible
with surrounding residential neighborhoods that adds another type of housing to the mix of
duplexes and townhouses now available in the immediate area.
3. The project's road network has been designed to interconnect with roads on other nearby
properties as they develop, as well as to create a road network that will serve the larger Proffit
Road/Worth Crossing area.
4. The applicant proposes to create a second entrance by completing the interparcel connection set
up when the Forest Ridge neighborhood was developed in the 1990s. The existing cul-de-sac at
the end of Moubry Lane will be removed, the grade will be improved, and affected driveways
along Moubry Lane extended to meet the reconstructed road.
5. The applicant has proffered to construct a sidewalk and planting strip on one side of Moubry
Lane to provide a safer place for Forest Ridge residents to walk once Moubry Lane becomes a
through street. By narrowing the street, the sidewalk/parking strip will also serve as a form of
traffic calming for the Forest Ridge neighborhood.
6. The project's design preserves the main section of the stream, an environmental feature that flows
diagonally through the center of the two parcels. The stream will become an amenity in the open
space area.
7. Approval of the Critical Slopes Waiver will enable the developer to make the most efficient use
of the property while preserving the main section of the stream.
Unfavorable Factors
1. The method used by the applicant to calculate the number of units on which the number of
affordable housing units will be provided and the number of units on which the cash proffer for
capital improvements will be paid does not follow the method stipulated in the Affordable
Housing Policy or the Cash Proffer Policy of the Comprehensive Plan.
2. The width of the streets in the proposed development will allow parking on only one side of the
street; VDOT will require that the other side be posted with "No Parking" signs, which may lead
to parking conflicts when the site is fully developed.
3. A tot lot or other type of recreational amenity has not been provided within the 25% open space.
4. Additional minor technical changes need to be made in the wording of the proffers and on the
application plan, as listed under Recommendation at the end of the staff report.
Staff Recommendation:
Staff recommends approval of this rezoning provided certain changes are made in the application plan
and proffers, as listed below:
1. The applicant meets the policies for affordable housing and cash proffers:
a. Affordable Housing Policy: 68 units * 15% = 10.2 units. 10.2 units * $21,125/unit =
$215,475.
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b. Cash Proffer Policy: 68 units * $19,100 per unit = $1,298,800, minus the Sidewalk
Expense.
2. The applicant increases the width of the streets to permit parking on both sides of the streets in
the neighborhood.
3. A tot lot or other recreational amenity is added within the open space shown on the application
plan.
4. The following technical changes need to be made on the application plan:
a. Lot -to -lot drainage along roads D and A will need to be addressed, per the County
Engineer.
b. The sidewalk on the north side of Road C needs to be extended to intersect with Road A.
c. The Phasing information now included in Scott Collins' letter dated June 20, 2011 needs
to be added to the phasing information now included on the cover sheet of the application
plan.
Staff recommends approval of the Critical Slopes Waiver.
Mr. Zobrist invited questions for staff.
Mr. Morris asked when talking to the applicant and VDOT was there any thought given to putting in any
traffic calming type of material such as speed bumps on both sides of the current cul-de-sac.
Ms. Wiegand replied yes, they talked with VDOT about speed bumps. VDOT does not want speed
bumps and does not permit on a public road like this. They talked about other possible things such as
bulb outs. However, because the street will be narrowed, they are not sure it will be needed. They are
also talking about increasing the curves, which will help slow things down. They are continuing the
NOW discussion of possible traffic calming measures.
Mr. Benish pointed out speed bumps are typically permitted when there is an issue with a defined
speeding or cut through issue. That does not exist at this point in time. The ones in Ashcroft were done
after an analysis of traffic conditions. That is what warrants the ability to put them in.
Mr. Morris agreed with everything he was saying. However, he also knows it is hard to get speed bumps
after the road has been put in. He believed that 75 percent of the residents have to agree to it. It would be
good if it could be done earlier.
Mr. Franco said in some of the past proposals in this area closer to Profit Road there had been expressed a
desire by staff to have a public road connecting Profit Road to this project. He asked if there was still an
intent of creating a mid block connection.
Ms. Wiegand replied this is the area where they had been trying to work on connections. With the
connection with Bright Beginnings, the connection would come in with a stub connected to this property
so that they could have a road that would go through this area. This does set up the beginning for a road
network in this area. One of the issues they have with it is that VDOT has been very clear they can't use
this particular area as a road to go up through this area. They have to be able to work with one of the
other properties in order to get the road connected to Profit. It is being considered. However, since they
don't have a rezoning proposal for this area they are waiting to see what happens.
Mr. Benish noted the issue in question was spacing for a public road. When a rezoning proposal would
come in, when and if on that property, they could evaluate its feasibility. However, it is less feasible
along that frontage because of the proximity to the Worth Crossing intersection. It is seen as a less
feasible public road access.
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hftw Mr. Franco noted from three years ago they were not pushing that as they were before.
Mr. Benish replied yes, he thought there was some issues about the number of public accesses and the
feasibility of those working properly, particularly with the possibility of a traffic circle being established
at Worth Crossing.
Ms. Porterfield asked if the right-of-way was already there as far as the two connections by the daycare
and to Moubry Lane.
Ms. Wiegand replied that the right-of-way for Moubry was already platted on the Forest Ridge plat. The
right-of-way for Bright Beginnings was under discussion and negotiation between Estes Park and the
owners of the Bright Beginning parcel. Normally with a rezoning, they would ask that the Bright
Beginning parcel either be included in the rezoning or that this particular stretch of right-of-way would be
dedicated or recorded prior to a public hearing. However, the Estes Park developer was going to have to
purchase this and they did not want to spend the money on it before knowing the rezoning was approved.
They have gone to the other alternative to proffer the road, which would be constructed before they
developed the property.
Ms. Porterfield asked if they are responsible for getting the right-of-way
Ms. Wiegand replied that was correct.
Mr. Loach asked if there was anything on the site that would prevent them from incorporating the 15
percent affordable housing.
Ms. Wiegand replied not to her knowledge.
Mr. Loach asked with regard to the building of the sidewalks in the proffer arrangements was the
applicant saying he would build that sidewalk up to Moubry Lane, but would want to subtract that from
the cash proffer amount that he would have to put forth. That money would not be available to go back to
the County into the funds that would pay for capital improvements that are waiting for funding, but be
used immediately.
Ms. Wiegand replied that was correct.
Mr. Benish pointed out to give credits for those types of improvements was an acceptable part of their
cash proffer policy.
Mr. Zobrist opened the public hearing and invited the applicant to address the Commission.
Representatives for the request included Ashley Cooper, with Cooper Planning, Scott Collins, with
Collins Engineering, and Alan Taylor of Riverbend Management.
Ms. Cooper presented a Power -Point presentation to explain the rezoning proposal, as follows.
• Over the past year it has been quite an evolution for this project. She emphasized that they have
been working on Estes Park for about a year. They consider this project to be an infill project.
They are becoming part of this overall jig saw puzzle that is the neighborhood. They have been
working with the neighboring properties specifically Forest Ridge Neighborhood Association, the
Forest Lakes Neighborhood Association, and Bright Beginnings as well as staff.
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• When they first came in they had the entire stream piped for the property. It was a major change
err when they decided that should be an amenity and that natural drainage should be preserved. It
was an unusual design in they really preserve almost the entire stream. When they began
working with Moubry Lane they knew it would be a concern that Forest Ridge's cul-de-sac was
going to now be connected with another neighborhood. On previous proposals they did have
speed bumps. However, speed bumps were vetoed by VDOT. They did have more of a radius or
turn in the road to slow cars down. That was also vetoed by VDOT. The proposal reflects those
direct comments from staff and VDOT.
• They feel this design will be a good connection for the two because with the actual intersection
someone will have to stop to make that right hand turn. Nobody will be going all the way down
the stretch of road to get around the neighborhood because they will have to stop to make that
right hand turn. They feel that aspect is good. They support the narrow road. They see that street
and pedestrian connection as a great asset to this area. They are working with the neighborhood
to make these changes.
• They are meeting all of VDOT's requirements for this type of road in the neighborhood. They
feel will be perfectly adequate for the parking needs. The narrow street sections will be a true
asset. They will get a sidewalk and a planting strip. They will still have room for parking on both
sides with a nice narrow street.
• They have been working with the Forest Lakes Neighborhood Association to make sure they go
above and beyond in all the erosion and sediment control measures. It is important that Arbor
Lake be protected throughout this process since they are directly adjacent. They are working with
them on a specific agreement should anything happen. They were hoping to have that settled by
this meeting. All of that will be worked out by the Board meeting. They hope to potentially join
their Neighborhood Association in the future. They have been working with Bright Beginnings
on the Worth Crossing to make a wonderful entrance to the neighborhood.
• The proffer policy is the big piece of the puzzle. There is a credit for rezoning applications where
there is a minimal increase in density. They can give that credit for what is allowed by right.
This property allows for up to 34 units per acre, which would give an overall unit count of 433
units on this property. What they are showing is a residential property R-1 nearly staying a
residential property. They do consider that is a very minimal increase from what they can
actually do. They have calculated that by right allowance to be 18 units on this site.
• Staff determines the cost of public facilities... by relying on the assumption that any revenue
derived from growth (residential real estate taxes), will pay the normal operating costs for
services to residents of new developments.
• Credits are authorized for the following:
• In rezoning applications where there is a minimal increase in density, a credit may be given for
the number of residential units allowed under the existing zoning and the cash proffer amount
will be based only on the estimated density increase resulting from the rezoning.
• Places 29/ Comp Plan designation of Urban Density
• Urban Density anticipates a maximum density of 34 units per acre or 433 units.
• Estes Park proposes only a
• minimal increase in density from what is allowed by -right.
• Impact is minimal compared to what was anticipated by the County.
• Proffer Credit Calculations
The Estes and Fox property have paid real estate taxes to Albemarle County for R-1 land to cover
the services for 18 by -right units for the past 31 years.
- Current Zoning:
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R-I allows for 1.45 units per acre (cluster development)
;* • Project Size:
• 12.75 acres
• 1.45 units per acre * 12.75 =
• 18 units allowed by -right
• Estes Park offers the following:
• $821,300 cash proffer
• $147,875 towards affordable housing
• $969,175 in total contributions
Summary:
1. Working with the neighborhood.
2. Staff recommendation for approval.
3. Street design meets all VDOT standards and is appropriate for the creation of a safe
neighborhood.
4. Cash Proffer and Affordable Housing Proffer reflect a credit only for units that are allowed and
buildable on the property by -right.
Mr. Zobrist invited questions for the applicant.
Mr. Loach asked Ms. Cooper why they did not incorporate the 15 percent affordable housing in the
development.
Ms. Cooper replied they were just showing that basically anything in the by -right could go on the site and
that would not include affordable housing. They were just showing it for the additional units.
Mr. Loach asked if by right was R-1.
Ms. Cooper replied yes the by right is R-1, which was 18 units.
Mr. Loach asked why they were not showing 15 percent of affordable housing for the 68 units.
Ms. Cooper replied that was something they were open to discussing, but they did not include it in their
initial proffer.
The Planning Commission took a break at 7.18 p.m. and the meetinLy reconvened at 7.28 n m
Mr. Zobrist opened the public hearing and invited public comment.
Scott Eliff, a member of the Board of Directors of the Forest Lakes Community Association, noted that he
was not here to discuss Moubry Lane. He pointed out Arbor Lake was owned by the Forest Lakes
Community Association. The townhouses at Worth Crossing are also part of Forest Lakes. They
reviewed the general concept and the site plan with the developer and are pleased with the vegetative
buffer that they will put along Worth Crossing. They don't have any issue, per say, with the rezoning for
68 houses. They have a big issue association with the potential siltation of Arbor Lake.
- The source of Arbor Lake is that property 32-33 and 32-34 and the stream they are protecting is
down the middle of that property. The last time there was a big development it was Hollymead
Town Center. Their Lake Hollymead got tremendously damaged by siltation that occurred by the
developer and the lack of adequate siltation controls. They had to result in filing suit against the
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developers to get compensated for that. That is going to be ongoing. They have resolved as a
board to never let this happen again. It is inappropriate for their lake or amenity, which is an
aesthetic value, recreational value, and a source of homeowner value to be damaged by anybody
doing development.
They have been very pleased with working with the developers of the Estes property who are
working on an agreement with them. However, that is not in place at the moment. They are very
concerned about the potential for siltation here. They had asked before this meeting that the
Commission defer consideration of this tonight so that they have a little longer to work out the
agreement with the applicant. It would compensate the Association and help reserve all of their
rights against potential siltation. Their Association has the financial and management
responsibility to maintain the lake, including dredging it. That would be a substantial cost which
they would save for over time in their reserve study. However, if there is siltation in the lake it
accelerates it and they have to dredge it sooner or more extensively, it would cost them a lot of
money. That is basically the issue with Lake Hollymead.
One of the issues they have come up with recently and found through the discovery in their law
suit is that there are a lot of soils in this area where the Department of Natural Resources has
indicated that traditional measures of siltation control through erosion bonds and so forth are
unlikely to work. A traditional approach of silt fences and erosion control ponds and so forth will
probably end up silting their lake and result in a major impact to the Association. They hope they
can put in place this agreement or whatever. In the absence of having an agreement in place they
would ask that the development either be postponed or denied so they are able to work it out.
Notwithstanding that, again, they like working with the applicant and think they will be able to
come to something, but want to protect their rights for their property.
Scott Mappi, member of Board of Directors of Forest Ridge Homeowners Association, said that they hear
very regularly that Albemarle County is trying to create not just residential areas but communities where
the residents can interact with one another. They the members of Forest Ridge, a homeowner's
association of 44 families on Moubry Lane think this is the right thing for the county to do. They would
even suggest that they have already achieved the county's goal. Moubry Lane currently ends in a little
circle of asphalt that they call a cul-de-sac, which they call their community center. It is where the young
children try out their peddle trucks, tricycles and toys. It is where the older children learn to ride their
bikes and where there is usually an active chalk hopscotch grid, where residents walk their dogs and
discuss everything with their neighbors. It is where their annual Fourth of July annual picnic parade ends.
They should see the video. The other night at about 7:30 p.m. she went out to water her flowers. There
were at least 12 to 15 people in the cul-de-sac including parents supervising children at play, dog walkers,
children at play, and everyone talking to other people. It is something they need more of these days. The
cul-de-sac of Mouby Lane is their public square and town hall. There is no building, but it is the heart of
Moubry lane. They ask them not to take it away.
Ms. Mappi continued noting that most of the residents of Forest Ridge do not object to the proposed
development of Estes Park adjacent to us. What they object to is the plan eliminates the cul-de-sac and
makes Moubry Lane a dangerous through street. They understand the county's reasons for this plan, but
seriously ask the county to please find another way. If Estes Park had a smaller number of houses the
county would not need to have a second entrance or exit and could leave Moubry Lane as it is. The
county could find another place for a second entrance road. The county could make an exception and
keep an existing community alive. No one planned Moubry Lane's cul-de-sac to become their
neighborhood center. It just happened, which is often the best way. They ask that they do not destroy
this wonderful creation.
Joan Miller noted that 14 years ago she moved here from New York to be near her children. They love
the area. However, it is changing. She was very worried about the change since the area is becoming too
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busy and commercial. She encourages the county to allow Moubry Lane to stay as is due to safety of her
grandchildren and its existing beauty. Farmers in Illinois say one can't put ten pounds of horse manure in
a five pound bag, it does not fit. She thought that was what they were doing around here by putting too
many people in this area. They need roads and not just more people, which she thought was what was
happening. Moubry Lane is fine the way it is since they can park two cars on it. She asked that Moubry
not be changed.
Peter Walpole, resident of Moubry Lane for 11 years, strongly encouraged the county to find another way
to develop and protect their beautiful quiet little treasure that his child enjoys and not destroy the cul-de-
sac on Moubry Lane. His son, Max, wanted to say something. It is their home and community that they
don't want destroyed. He asked the county to allow the applicant to develop, but to find another way that
does not impact Moubry Lane.
Max Walpole said that he did not like the aspect of taking down their cul-de-sac. It is a very nice place
and he liked it. He would not like it if it was changed due to traffic.
Jim Frey, Forest Ridge resident, spoke against the request. Before he was a Forest Lake resident he was
an international corporate executive and then was in municipal government in a very small New Jersey
town. He knows that in long range planning sometimes when the long range comes it is not the same as
when it was planned. Sam Craig put together what he thought was a housing development. A cul-de-sac
got him off the hook since he said they can use it as an outlet later. It is not a housing development. It is
a community. They have people from the Far East, Middle East, Europe, South America and New York
City with many diverse opinions and politics. That cul-de-sac has become a community center. He
asked the commission to figure it out. They don't want to stop growth and want to let Estes Park develop.
However, there has to be another way to not destroy a community and not build Estes Park on top of their
neighborhood.
Cynthia Nath said that she respects the desire of the builder to do this, but this is a community. It is a
really good plan. However, she was struggling with it in that one of the rational for doing this very high
density project is because of the demand for housing in our area. She did not see it. She asked what the
build out of everything was that has already been approved and not developed. They don't track that.
She felt that was a problem. She did not see an overwhelming demand for housing at this moment. They
are not taking into account the number of houses already on the market and unsold. She voiced concern
that they were harming a neighborhood for housing not needed.
Marie Portoghese, resident of Moubry Lane resident for 15 years, spoke against the request since she did
want them to take away her neighbors by opening up the street.
There being no further discussion, Mr. Zobrist closed the public hearing to bring the matter before the
Commission.
Mr. Morris said this is a very difficult situation because they have been looking to have a development in
this area for quite some time. As Mr. Franco said originally they were looking at a different road coming
in here. He would hope they could revisit that in some manner. It is truly a community and he would hate
to see it destroyed in any manner, shape or form. However, as far as the master plan is concerned there is
connectivity. He was sorry the developer's hands are tied. Somehow there has to be another second
entrance. He did not exactly what they can do for this individual and for the people in the community.
He opposed changing this wonderful community.
Mr. Loach asked staff if there is the need for a second entrance based on it being over 50 homes.
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Ms. Wiegand replied yes it was based on fact that it was over 50 homes and the fact that when this was
laid out that they expected there to be an interconnection to make this a little wider neighborhood. That is
why staff encouraged the developer to do it.
Mr. Zobrist asked if they reduced the number of unit to 50 units would they still need the
interconnectivity.
Mr. Benish replied that the plan does require access to adjacent properties. At a certain threshold it does
not have to be vehicular access.
Mr. Zobrist said they could do walking access and not have vehicular access. He asked what the
threshold was.
Ms. Monteith relied it was 50 units.
Mr. Kamptner agreed it was 50 units for the second access. One course the county has taken in the past is
to require some type of access be constructed and then it be chained so it is accessible only for emergency
situations. They have done that at least a few items.
Mr. Zobrist pointed out it had been done in Running Deer, Cascadia and Gray Rock North.
Mr. Benish noted that was places where there are no existing roads and the public road could be stubbed
out for future connections. So other undeveloped properties could theoretically provide that second point.
Mr. Zobrist asked what could be done to not have the connectivity. The connectivity is required under the
Code because it is 66 units.
Mr. Franco said it was also encouraged by the Comp Plan.
Mr. Kamptner said that even if these parcels were not rezoned under the Subdivision Ordinance when a
plat came in staff probably look at it and the county has the authority to require that roads be extended to
the property line.
Mr. Zobrist asked if the county has the ability not to extend it.
Mr. Kamptner replied yes. At the plat stage it would be decided either by the agent or the Commission.
However, that decision is made at the plat stage. In the rezoning stage the Commission can make
recommendation to the Board who would determine if that was appropriate. It would be helpful if the
Commission could state the reasons why in this case that it is recommending that the extension not be
provided. It could also make a recommendation for an access at a different location.
Mr. Benish noted there is a stub out to an adjacent property to the south that eventually could provide a
second point of access.
Ms. Wiegand noted that it went to the Virginia Power property. They talked about this in the pre -
application conference with the applicants. There was an issue with trying to get the right-of-way so it
would line up with the entrance into the shopping center on the other side of Worth Crossing.
Mr. Benish said there is a practical feasibility to a utility of that second access.
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Mr. Zobrist noted that it was done in Glenmore. The Commission could say stub it out on the south side
and leave Moubry Lane the way it is. The Commission would make the recommendation and then the
Board of Supervisors would make the decision.
Ms. Porterfield said based on that after they talked about these things the Commission could ask the
applicant to defer to come back with changes to the plan so an actual plan could be sent to the Board of
Supervisors.
Mr. Benish replied that is correct as well. The Commission could direct the applicant to look at other
items.
Mr. Loach noted that be would not support this proposal for a number of reasons. He was not happy with
the lack of 15 percent of affordable housing. He did not agree with the policy where essentially they
could pay it off. He was not happy with the cash proffers and the way they are by subtracting the money
for sidewalks, which would take money away from other projects in the CIP. He was not happy that they
were not proffering for the total number of houses, but just those over the by right.
Mr. Franco noted that regarding off -site improvements it has been common practice to provide a credit
back for those off -site improvements. He agreed with the affordable housing component. He would like
to see it incorporated into the project. However, he understands why it can't be sometimes. His
observation on the affordable housing has been also is that they are collecting the funds but they are not
necessarily dispersing them as quickly as he would like to see. He would be willing to relook at the
affordable housing policy to even potentially reduce the number of required units in there in order to
make sure that a unit got in there. For instance, it is something like $250,000 to $270,000 of proffer. So
by giving to build a house and making sure it was affordable would be a way of satisfying that
requirement in his eyes. It would not hit 15 percent, but it would meet the intent of the ordinance to
provide affordable housing throughout the community.
Mr. Loach agreed with the speaker from Forest Lakes that the agreement should be part of the conditions
before approval.
Mr. Morris agreed. He thought there are a number of things he would really like to have answers to. He
was looking at a motion to approve or deny. Right now he did not want to do either one. He thought the
plan was wonderful except they were evading the end of the cul-de-sac. They may or may not want to do
it, but they have to do it. Or, they need to find another way to have that second entrance. He would really
like to see if they could look at that a little more thoroughly and possibly get the agreement with Forest
Lakes Homeowner's Association. He noted that the applicant would have to request a deferral since the
Commission could not.
Mr. Franco noted concern with the road width.
Mr. Wiegand pointed out when VDOT looked at the road they meet the requirements to be accepted into
the state system because they have two parking spaces off site for each unit. However, the problem is that
even though they meet the standards VDOT and the county engineer is concerned that right now the
streets are narrow enough that once they are accepted into the state system they would have to be posted
for no parking on one side or the other on each street. Staff is concerned that is not going to leave enough
space for cars to park. There may be households with more than two cars. Also, they could have people
coming to visit. It could be difficult to have enough parking here at certain times. Staff indicated that
they would like the streets a few feet wider to ensure they could have parking on both sides. Staff
believes by narrowing the boundaries around the edges or buffers that they could get enough space for the
street. They were looking for 30' so to be wide enough to provide parking on both sides.
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Ms. Porterfield suggested that the applicant defer the request since she did not want to vote on this request
tonight. She would like to see a tot lot on the plan. If the county did a stub out for Glenmore that had 750
homes she thought they could figure out a way to do it here. Lastly, she sits on the Historic Preservation
Committee. They met last evening and are concerned that the cemetery be protected. They would very
much like to have the applicant at least fence the cemetery with temporary fencing prior to commencing
any site work including the initial grading on this area. Then not later than completion of the grading for
lots 1 through 12 in phase 2 the owner shall replace any temporary fencing with permanent fencing of a
lasting low maintenance variety including a gate at the western end of the access easement being shown
to the cemetery from road B. At that time the owner would also mow and other wise clean up the
cemetery and continue to maintain the cemetery and fencing until such time the owner turns such
maintenance over to the Estes Park Homeowner's Association as will be covered in the Estes Park
covenants and restrictions. She believed that the 10' access easement that they are showing handles this.
However, they wanted to make sure that the easement was clear on the plans. She assumed it would be
part and parcel of the open space and not a piece of someone's lot. They would like to see a proffer to
that extent added.
Mr. Smith said they were talking about making the streets wider. He despises the buffer areas on the
outside. They are either a jungle or else somebody extends their yard back. Where they lose that they
could gain space for the open space in the middle and expand the street. He did not like closing the cul-
de-sac. Regarding the grave yard, he was not sure they could demand that the owner maintain the grave
yard because it belongs to the family.
Ms. Porterfield noted she was not demanding but asking if the applicant when they are putting this
altogether couldn't make it look decent and keep it looking decent if they are going to transfer it over to
the homeowner's association eventually. The concern is that they have historic entities in this county. It
is a good idea if they can figure out a way to maintain those entities. If they can delineate the area and
mow occasionally, she thought they have taken care of the problem.
Mr. Zobrist asked if the applicant wants the Commission to vote on the request.
Scott Collins asked to make a couple of points. The cemetery is no problem since they have already
delineated it with the county.
Ms. Porterfield asked that they put it in writing.
Mr. Collins made the following comments:
- It was good to have narrower street and parking on one side. It does cut down on traffic. It is a
calming effect and keeps people from speeding in neighborhood. Narrow streets leads to slower
moving cars. It is a much better design. There is plenty of parking.
- They are there with working out a condition about the pond with Forest Lakes. They are on
board about having an agreement about siltation before the Board meeting.
- Regarding affordable housing, the problem they are having is with the down payment to get the
applicants into these homes. That is what they really want to see more of is monetary
contributions into the affordable housing program. The initial down payment seems to be the
hurdle for a lot of families, which is what they are focusing on. They are in tune with what they
want to do.
- Regarding the connection to Moubry Lane and a cul-de-sac versus a road connection they could
go either way. He would hate to get into the fact of having to come back and change the plan in
how it is going to connect or not with the Board ultimately making that decision as well. They
have a connection at the southern end and they have done that to allow development down there
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to have a connection. They can easily work out that change if they had an emergency connection.
They can work out the small change in the streetscape alignment to make that work.
He would not see that as a need to come back here. This is a good plan and it can work. They can
accommodate that connection whether it is pedestrian, pedestrian and bicycle, or vehicle
whichever way the Board feels on that. They are open to that either way. He would like to move
forward with the intent that these couple of items they will definitely take care of.
The Planning Commission held a discussion on the proposal and provided comments on items that need
further work.
Mr. Benish summarized the Commission's comments, as follow.
1. Lack of provision of affordable housing units. The recent trend to proffer cash in lieu of units
needs to be reviewed as part of a discussion of the Affordable Housing Policy. There was a
general consensus that the applicant should base the amount of the cash proffer for affordable
housing on the total number of units.
2. Protection of Arbor Lake — Need to ensure that the agreement is in place.
3. Provide for tot lot or another recreational amenity in the 25% open space.
4. Better provision for temporary and long-term protection of the historic cemetery
5. Provide adequate road width to allow parking on both sides of public road.
6. Evaluate options for another point of vehicular access instead of the Moubry Lane
interconnection. It was a general consensus not to make the interconnection, but to preserve the
cul-de-sac. Second means of access needs to be made. Typically, this issue would be addressed
during site plan review.
Mr. Collins said they do not have a whole lot of issues with the Commission's comments. He would be
happy to make all those conditions of approval. They would be willing to go 50 percent on the affordable
housing and go ahead and change that as well. They would do 15 percent affordable housing, the
condition of having the Arbor Lake agreement in place, and they will widen the streets 12' if that works
for everybody. The one trick about coming back and changing the plan is that they would like to just
make that a condition and if they don't make the vehicle connection they make more of a pedestrian
connection or bicycle connection. Then they would do a variance to the plan and change that plan at the
time. What he would hate to do is go ahead and change the plan now and then go to the Board and have
them shoot it down because they are pushing the promotion of interconnectivity They are stuck in that
little turmoil. They can easily change the plan one way or the other with a variance and make that change
happen.
Mr. Collins continued that they have looked at the ability to connect with the Virginia Power property.
There is actually another property on the other side of that strip as well. They need to have both of those.
Right now with all of the utilities and the existing power poles it was not feasible. They have looked at
that entrance as a possibility. They are down to these two connections. These are the two best
connections. There is another connection north, but they ruled that one out as well. From the work on
Profit Road there could be no connection to Profit Road to the north because there was not enough room
between Worth Crossing and Moubry Lane. He thought that a lot of this could be done with conditions,
especially the idea of connecting to Moubry Lane or not. That could be handled as well as with a simple
change to the plan when it comes back in for approval with the site plan.
Mr. Benish noted that the Commission could not condition a rezoning. They can either motion for
approval or denial with the basis that the expectations to be addressed with the Board or denial because of
the issues they have discussed.
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Ms. Porterfield pointed out she would not do that. She got bumped into doing that on a couple of things
in the past and she really does not like it. If this Commission is doing its work, they will put it together
and they will stand behind what they are saying. When the Commission sends it to the Board of
Supervisors they should say this is the way it should be done. If at their level, the Board decides to say
that the Commission did not do it right or they don't agree, that is up to them. However, the Commission
will send them something that is a complete package. That is not what he is asking them to do at this
point and she cannot support that. She would be very happy to support the things that have been said here
that he has agreed to if he will bring his plan back done that way.
Mr. Franco said he was torn because he has been the applicant before. He understands what the applicant
is saying and really thinks especially the interconnection is difficult. He thought the policy has been to
provide interconnections to help take the pressure off the bigger roads. He could see the Board going the
opposite direction. However, he also sees the point of sending their best foot forward. He was a little
torn on that.
Mr. Zobrist asked if there was a motion. He asked the applicant if he wants to defer or wants the
Commission to vote.
Mr. Collins requested a deferral.
MOTION: Mr. Morris moved and Mr. Smith seconded to accept the applicant's request for deferral of
ZMA-2010-00011, Estes Park.
Ms. Porterfield asked staff to work with the applicant for the earliest possible date that he can bring it
back.
Mr. Zobrist pointed out the next meetings would be September 13, September 20, and September 27.
Mr. Benish noted it would be preferable to defer to a date specific so they don't have to readvertise.
Mr. Kamptner said if the Commission sets the hearing date now, it does not need to be readvertised.
Mr. Benish pointed out staff can make sure the Homeowner Association is made aware of this.
Mr. Zobrist asked how much time the applicant would like.
Mr. Collins asked for deferral to September 27.
Mr. Benish said that September 27 is a short turn around, but staff would make every effort with the
applicant to address all the issues.
Mr. Collins said they would have it submitted within five days if staff can turn it around.
Mr. Morris amended the motion to defer the request to the September 27 Planning Commission meeting.
The motion passed by a vote of (6:0).
Mr. Zobrist noted that ZMA-2010-00011, Estes Park was deferred to the September 27th Planning
Commission meeting. The applicant agreed to address the changes in the application plan and proffers as
recommended by the Commission.
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Old Business:
Mr. Zobrist asked if there was any old business. There being none, the meeting moved to the next item.
New Business:
Mr. Zobrist asked if there was any new business.
• Staff asked to invite Ron White to come and speak to the Commission about the affordable housing
policy and the intermediate market concerns.
• To promote interconnection ways need to be found to explain to the neighborhood how big an
impact would be expected. The staff report needs to deal more with the issue of interconnection
since it is hard without a full traffic study to tell how much traffic would go through a neighborhood.
• Discussion held on the Sustainability Grant and what impacts it will have on the master plans.
• There will be no Planning Commission meeting on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 or Tuesday,
September 6, 2011.
• Next Planning Commission meeting will be on Tuesday, September 13, 2011.
There being no further new business, the meeting moved to the next item.
Adjournment:
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m. to the September 13, 2011 meeting at 6:00 p.m.
at the County Office Building, Room 241, Second Floor, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
V. Wayne
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon C. Taylor, Clerk to Planning Commission & Pam* g Boards)
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