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January 28, 2014
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a regular meeting on Tuesday, January 28,
2014, at 6:00 p.m., at the County Office Building, Lane Auditorium, Second Floor, 401 McIntire
Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
Members attending were Cal Morris, Chair; Karen Firehock, Richard Randolph, Thomas Loach,
Bruce Dotson, and Mac Lafferty, Vice Chair. The At -large Commissioner has not been
appointed at this time. Julia Monteith, AICP, Senior Land Use Planner for the University of
Virginia was present.
Other officials present were Trevor Henry, Director of Facilities Development; Lindsay Harris,
Budget Analyst of Office of Management and Budget; Sarah Baldwin, Senior Planner; Bill Fritz,
Manager of Special Projects; David Benish, Chief of Planning; Wayne Cilimberg, Director of
Planning; Sharon Taylor, Clerk to Planning Commission and Greg Kamptner, Deputy County
Attorney.
Call to Order and Establish Quorum:
Mr. Morris, Chair, called the regular meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and established a quorum.
Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the Public:
Mr. Morris invited comment from the public on other matters not listed on the agenda including
consent agenda items. There being none, the meeting moved to the next item.
Consent Agenda:
Approval of Minutes: October 15, 2013
Mr. Morris asked if any Commissioner would like to pull an item from the consent agenda for
further review.
Motion: Mr. Lafferty moved and Mr. Loach seconded for approval of the consent agenda.
The motion carried by a vote of (6:0).
Mr. Morris said the consent agenda was approved.
Capital Improvement Program Presentation:
Trevor Henry, Director of Facilities Development and Lindsay Harris, Budget Analyst of Office of
Management and Budget presented a Power -Point presentation to summarize the FY 15 CIP -
Capital Improvement Program; FY15-19 CIP & FY20-24 CNA dated January 28, 2014 for
informational purposes. (Attachment A — Presentation on file with the printed minutes in the
office of the clerk)
At the conclusion of the presentation Mr. Henry invited questions and input from the Planning
Commission.
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�w The Planning Commission discussed the Capital Improvement Program Presentation
recommendations with staff, asked questions and made the following comments and
suggestions:
• Due to a concern a Commissioner requested the Facilities Development Department to
work with GIS to provide a map or graphic representation along with project data on the
web so the public can easily see where the projects are from a funding perspective. (Mr.
Henry agreed and offered to provide that information back to the Planning Commission
once it was available at a future date.)
• Provide project description information link on website to the public in future memos to
make it easier to find.
• Work on process on how community organizations submit requests to the Office of
Facilities Development (OFD), such as the CCAC, Places29, Pantops, etc.
• There was a question about the timeline diagram at the beginning of the process. It
indicates the process begins in early summer. Where would a group like the community
advisory committees, such as Crozet, Places29 or Pantops, submit ideas and who would
they submit them to. Would that happen in early summer so they were factored into the
process?
Mr. Morris invited public comment. There being no public comment, he thanked staff for their
excellent presentation.
No formal action was taken. The Commission looks forward to seeing what happens when the
proposal goes to the Board of Supervisors.
Public Hearing Items
a. ZMA-2013-000015 Northfield Green
PROPOSAL: Rezone 2.62 acres from R-2 zoning district which allows residential uses at a
density of 2 units per acre to NMD-Neighborhood Model District - residential (3 — 34
units/acre) mixed with commercial, service and industrial uses. Proposed 13 maximum
single family (attached/detached) dwelling units for a density of 4.9 units/acre.
PURPOSE OF NOTICE AND HEARING: Intention of the Planning Commission to make
recommendation on the Proposal to the Board of Supervisors
ENTRANCE CORRIDOR: No
AIRPORT IMPACT AREA: Yes
PROFFERS: Yes
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Neighborhood 2-Places 29- Neighborhood Density Residential —
residential (3 — 6 units/acre) supporting uses such as religious institutions, schools and other
small-scale non-residential uses.
LOCATION: Old Brook Road, approximately 200 feet from intersection of Redington Lane.
TAX MAP/PARCEL: 06100-00-00-12600
MAGISTERIAL DISTRICT: Rio
(Sarah Baldwin)
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Ms. Baldwin summarized the rezoning request in a PowerPoint presentation. (Attachment B —
Staff Report on file with the printed minutes in the office of the clerk)
The Comprehensive Plan designation for this area is Neighborhood Density Residential 3 — 6
units per acre, which is in line with this proposal. However, one of the master plan guiding
principles for the Northern Development Area is to preserve the character of the existing
neighborhoods. The surrounding area contains existing neighborhoods which are single family
detached units at 2 units per acre.
Master Plan Guiding Principles
6. Preserving the character of existing neighborhoods while improving the quality, diversity, and
affordability of new housing is important. Housing, including workforce housing, located close to
employment centers, shopping areas, transportation and recreation is important for the Northern
Development Areas. The Board of Supervisors specifically adopted this principle because of
concerns expressed from existing established neighborhoods. While there is no further
guidance in the Plan, staff determined that major elements need to be preserved to include land
use, unit type, density and form characteristics.
The applicant is proposing a block plan that will contain between 10 - 13 single family attached
and detached units at a density of 4.9 units per acre. The plan also provides for a community
lawn and garden area. A community meeting was held and both attendees as well as neighbors
have since contacted staff to express a concern about the number and type of dwelling units
proposed. Staff handed out additional emails, some of which the Commission received and
some of which came after 4:00 p.m. today. Those were included in the packet. Additional
concerns include increased traffic and storm water management issues that may result from this
proposal. (Attachment C - Emails received on file with the printed minutes in the office of the
clerk)
Out of the 12 Neighborhood Model principles 4 have not been addressed.
1. Neighborhood Friendly Streets/Paths
Proposed 14' wide private street is not recommended by engineering.
2. Buildings and Spaces of Human Scale
Homes on Old Brook Road to have appearance of fronting on street, but no standards are
established.
3. Mixture of Uses
Non residential uses are not proposed.
4. Mixture of Housing Types/Affordability
Affordable housing not addressed on plan or in proffers.
Engineering has recommended a 24-foot wide road to accommodate parallel parking. A waiver
is necessary to approve at a lesser standard. The applicant has stated that units fronting on Old
Brook Road will contain elements to appear that they are facing the street and will have
Architectural Review Board review, but no other standards on how the buildings will be
consistent with the area was included in the plan. The Neighborhood Model recommends
residential and non residential uses. This plan only addresses residential uses and a waiver
must be approved for that as well. Additionally, affordable housing has not been addressed.
The proposed density is 4.9 acres and is inconsistent with the surrounding areas. Additionally,
no cash proffers or other in -kind improvements for public facilities or infrastructure have been
received. According to the cash proffer policy $139,182 to $265,000 would be anticipated. It is
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staff opinion that a density of 3 units per acre, which is at the lower end of the Comp Plan
recommendation, containing all single family units with those on Old Brook Road facing the road
would be more consistent with the surrounding neighborhoods.
Factors Favorable:
1. The rezoning request remains consistent with the Places 29 Master Plan land use and
density recommendation.
2. This rezoning request will provide infill, which is encouraged in the Comp Plan.
3. The rezoning provides for a mix of residential unit types.
Factors Unfavorable:
1. The proposal does not meet the guiding principle of Places 29 to preserve the existing
character of the surrounding neighborhoods.
2. The applicant has not addressed the proposal's impacts on public services or infrastructure.
3. The applicant has not provided for affordable housing consistent with County policy.
4. Proposed internal roads do not meet the County Engineer's recommended design standards.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff recommends denial of ZMA-2013-00015, Northfield Green based on the unfavorable
factors noted.
Mr. Morris invited questions for staff.
Mr. Randolph asked staff to provide details about the community meeting such as the date,
location and the number of people that participated.
Ms. Baldwin replied the meeting was held on August 22 in the Lane Auditorium at the County
Office Building on McIntire Road. It is her understanding approximately 30 people attended the
meeting, which included Rodney Thomas. Since she did not attend the meeting she referred
specific questions to David Benish who did attend the meeting.
Mr. Randolph asked if in summary the people were enthusiastic and embraced the introduction
of this zoning change in their community or did they seem to express some reservations.
Mr. Benish replied, as indicated in the report, the major issues were the consistency of the unit
type and the density of development. Other issues expressed included potential issues with
traffic impacts; some observations of off -site storm water problems in the neighboring
development, and questions about whether this development would exacerbate those issues.
The majority that spoke were opposed to the proposal.
Mr. Randolph asked if that meeting was held in August.
Mr. Benish replied this particular community meeting was held before the application was
submitted to help the applicant frame what his possible submittal would be.
Mr. Randolph asked if staff has seen any changes in the proposal based on the input of the
members of the community to the application, and Ms. Baldwin replied no.
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Ms. Firehock pointed out staff noted in the presentation that the drawing provided with the
application was just for illustrious purposes. Therefore, the applicant is not making a particular
commitment to any style of building except that it is a duplex for residential use.
Ms. Baldwin replied that was correct.
Mr. Loach asked if Fire Rescue weighed in on the street width and what was their opinion.
Ms. Baldwin replied there is an area at the far end of the development that has guest parking
spaces that Fire Rescue thought they would be okay with.
Ms. Firehock pointed out in some of the public email comments received this afternoon people
mentioned concerns with sight lines for ingress and egress to the property. She read about the
issues with the one-way street. However, she was curious as to what extent staff had looked at
the sight line issue and if they felt that was a problem.
Ms. Baldwin replied that VDOT did not note it as an issue when they looked at it.
Mr. Benish highlighted that in the approval of a commercial entrance on that road they will have
to meet sight distance. He explained the grade is much higher since from the midpoint it
becomes pretty steep. Therefore, the frontage will have to be cut down and the sight distance
will have to be met for a commercial entrance to be constructed.
There being no further questions, Mr. Morris opened the public hearing for the applicant and
public comment.
1'`AW Justin Shimp, project engineer, explained the changes they have made to the plan as a result of
issues brought up at the neighborhood meeting. In response to the issues raised they pushed
the units in the lots back from Old Brook Road; created a required landscaping area along the
frontage; and provided the required buffer between the backs of the proposed and existing units
in the neighborhood. Those items have been added to the plan and are part of the application
plan to be proffered.
Mr. Shimp explained there are architectural guidelines in the Code of Development that do not
specify exactly how the houses will look, but gives a range of things that are required. For
example, the porches have to come out ahead of the garage doors and the garage door cannot
be the most forward item on the house. That is something staff asked for and they agree is a
good idea. It also includes other things such as requiring certain materials. For example, it says
vinyl siding is permitted on certain faces of the building. In general, it is flexible in some ways
and relates to the application plan being proffered. The colored plan is an illustrious plan, which
if attached becomes part of the application plan that becomes proffers and the houses have to
be built exactly for that location and number. Therefore, they have shown on that plan the
maximum of 13. There could be less in theory, but there could not be more with their zoning as
a site plan. He just wanted to point those things out quickly before starting his presentation.
In the PowerPoint presentation Mr. Shimp highlighted some of the features in the plan on the
back of the lots adjacent to the existing homes. There are about 3 or a portion of 4 lots with a
20' buffer and landscaping with a required screening of trees and tall evergreens. A large area
to landscape was included in the front. The site is an existing wooded area amongst this
neighborhood, which was part of the decision not to front view houses on the street directly.
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Obviously, while that is not consistent with the neighborhood as it is built, it is consistent with the
existing neighborhood, which was part of the rationale for not fronting the units directly on the
street and leaving the landscape buffer there.
Mr. Shimp stated their product is a 32' unit, which is the style of house that will be the attached
product with 2 units side by side and not a townhome. There are 3 blocks that can be
developed in a range of 10 to 13 units. They have over an acre of open space. An important
part is the community green center, which is block 4a. The various hatches shown on the plan
are different required elements. For example, there is guest parking at the end that will be
pervious pavement. The area in the center will be the community green, which is about 70' X
140'. The shaded area in the front is all required landscaping across the front. There is a
minimum building set back line across the front as well.
Mr. Shimp pointed out in the staff report there are some positive and negative findings. The
folks on the ones negative share our perspectives on that, which include the density of the
proffers; cash proffer policy and the roads. Two of them, the cash proffer policy and affordable
housing, will be easy to address. The cash proffer policy was in a little bit of limbo with the
Board of Supervisors when they submitted this proposal on September 2. However, that has
since been settled. They have their proffers drafted and will comply with what is required. On
the affordable housing side, this neighborhood is primarily owner -occupied units. While they
might look at doing on -site affordable housing with the accessory unit type of thing, they thought
in this case that would not be consistent with the neighborhood. Therefore, they are going to
have a cash proffer to the affordable housing fund to let that money be spent elsewhere. In this
case it will not be for affordable housing on site.
Mr. Shimp said he spoke to engineering staff yesterday about the road. What they propose is
°'A` acceptable by Code, but is not recommended. Staff feels there is not enough room for parking
and they don't disagree with that. The recommendation of going to the 24' wide road in the staff
report actually can't be done because they are required to have a 20' clear zone for the fire
marshal. They have created a mountable curve on one side that gives them the 14' plus 6' of
area for the fire truck to go on. Therefore, they keep a very nice little narrow street in front of
these houses and preserve a maximum green space, which is why they think the road needs to
stay like it is to keep the green space in the center a usable space. An early comment or
example from staff on how to revise the road to have the full circulation was done with a 40'
green and 60' of asphalt between the two neighboring houses, which is more akin to a major
highway as a median than green space. That is really why they feel it is important to stick to
what they have. It is doable, meets Code and the fire marshal accepts it. So they think for a
maximum of 13 houses it is sufficient.
The trickier item is dealing with the character of the existing neighborhood and the density unit
type. Mr. Shimp questioned what these things are and how it would be interpreted since there
is no clear definition of that in the Comprehensive Plan. The exhibit of their lots to scale among
the rest of the neighborhood, which has thousands of lots around it, is very much an infill
project. He agreed these lots are a little smaller. However, that meets several criteria of the
Comprehensive Plan in being a little more of a variety of housing and on the higher side of
density in an infill situation. Therefore, he thinks those should not be discarded because they
have this concept of the existing neighborhood only.
In reviewing the existing houses going down the street on the plan Mr. Shimp noted there is
some consistency in the garage doors that are kind of prominent, which they proffered out
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specifically. He pointed out the house right across the street noting there is not a consistent
style of any of these homes. Therefore, it is hard to pin down a particular element of how the
architecture would match from the plan to those. So they looked into that and could not find a
specific thing that made sense. Therefore, they went with what they presented tonight
Related to this, again, Mr. Shimp noted they dealt with the staff on this all along and cannot say
it has to all be attached because then they are throwing out the other principles they try to
adhere to that make a good neighborhood. Therefore, their perspective is you can have all
three of these things together. Again, it is not so much just what has been built before, but what
the lot is now. They can preserve some of that with a little different design keeping that as no
street front, no garages, and no driveways right off Old Brook Road. They would throw some
landscaping in and then it would be consistent with what is there. Those are the sort of things
that balances out the difference in density. Just for reference, the attached buildings or the two
buildings 64' wide are not substantially wider than a house in that neighborhood. Those houses
are 40' to 50' wide. So it is not like they are building the proposed structures twice the size of
an existing house.
With those things said, Mr. Shimp said the design in the neighborhood is what has got to be
important, which they think meets many of the criteria of the Comprehensive Plan. However, it
would be up for some determination whether it meets the character of the existing
neighborhood. He questioned what the character of the existing neighborhood was. They feel
confident they will build a quality neighborhood that won't be a detriment to the existing
neighborhood and would be consistent with many of the principles that they try to adhere to in
planning in Albemarle County. They feel that is what makes this a good project and hope the
Commission agrees.
Mr. Morris invited questions for the applicant.
Mr., Dotson asked what he anticipates the sale price to be of the units.
Mr. Shimp deferred the question to the developer.
Jess Ackerman, with the development company, replied the sales prices are predicted to be in
the mid $400,000 to $500,000 range.
Mr. Dotson asked what the square footage would be.
Mr. Ackerman replied the square footage would range from 2,300 to 3,300 square feet with
double garages and two-story houses.
Mr. Randolph said in the first page of the report it lists two factors unfavorable. Staff noted the
applicant has not addressed the proposal's impacts on public services and infrastructure and
has not provided for affordable housing consistent with County policy. The applicant had
previously appeared before the Commission and been asked twice for a traffic study and
analysis. He was curious why he did not address both of those issues and not take advantage
of staff's recommendation to come before the Commission to troubleshoot this before the public
hearing.
Mr. Shimp replied in regards to the first two questions if they look at the staff report further
VDOT reviewed this and commented the traffic report was not necessary. So that is why it is not
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done. However, he would let staff clarify this if he was not right. The comment about public
service's infrastructure is the cash proffer policy, which they will comply with. They will put up
some amount of money between $100,000 and $200,000 depending on the final layout, which
will go to address those impacts.
Mr. Randolph asked when they will see that.
Mr. Shimp replied they would submit that as soon as tomorrow since the proffers are done.
However, at the time when they had to submit for this meeting there was no certainty as to how
that was going to be interpreted by the Board. That is why the Commission does not have that
information now.
Mr. Randolph asked if Mr. Shimp would like the Commission to make a decision where he is
promising tomorrow that he is going to flush out what the proffer looks like. He asked if the
Commission should trust him on that and just waive the expectation that a proffer would be
consistent with County expectations.
Mr. Shimp replied that they would certainly expect any motion from the Commission, if
favorable, to say provided the applicant includes the proffers to address items 2 and 3 in the
staff report.
Mr. Randolph said Mr. Shimp cited in his statement that Mr. Shimp thinks the style of what they
are proposing to build is roughly similar to other houses in the community. He gathers that
what Mr. Shimp was extrapolating when he used the word style is Mr. Shimp was trying to
submit that thereby the houses he was proposing to build are going to be of similar character.
He asked if he thinks the character of a single family neighborhood is affected in any way by
suddenly increased density in one small portion of that neighborhood.
Mr. Shimp replied he thinks if it was done correctly it would not be.
Mr. Randolph asked if he thinks that such a neighborhood would increase density or could have
an impact on property values of other members of the neighborhood.
Mr. Shimp replied that one of the things about the County Neighborhood Model process that
Albemarle County does right is when going through this process and looking at the ordinances
that are required to be developed today it is very difficult not to build a quality development.
They see that in all of the new developments. Looking at the home prices of new construction
in Albemarle County there is a reason it is expensive. It is because of the site work and the
creation of new neighborhoods is very expensive. In this time in his mind the way Albemarle
County works is it would not be possible to go in and not build a nice neighborhood in this
location. Density is a matter of impacts to, say, traffic. If you go in here and build five 4,000
square foot homes that were 35' tall the homes would be seen from the entire neighborhood.
Maybe some folks would like that and some would not. But, that would have its own impact in
its own sense. To say just because of the density itself, he did not believe they could say it
would cause an impact in this case. The design could, which is why they try to focus on the
buffers and landscaping to preserve the feel of what is there. However, it would provide for
housing in the development area which is a goal in the urban area.
Mr. Randolph asked whether the owners Michael, Warren T; Jarrett Michael Stephens &
Victoria Von Der Au Michael have lived on this property.
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Mr. Shimp replied that he did not know exactly. However, there is an old house site on the
property that a family has owned for a long time. He did not know if they ever lived there in that
house.
Mr. Randolph noted apparently they currently don't live there because there is no house on the
site and their residence is identified as Irvington, Virginia. He asked if Mr. Shimp was familiar
with the site and if it would be a surprise if he suggested there could be two cemeteries on this
site.
Mr. Shimp replied yes that it would be a surprise.
Mr. Randolph pointed out there is actual mention in the Albemarle County Deed Book 61-199
that the deed conveying the property to Mr. William Early, who was probably a relative of John
Early for whom Earlysville is named, mentions there was a family cemetery that was owned by
the previous owner Joel Terrell. He was on the site today with the president of the Historical
Society and they found potential evidence of two cemeteries on the site. One of them is actually
adjacent to where Mr. Shimp plans to put the driveway into the site. If Mr. Shimp was to go
through with his proposal and he was authorized to do so, what would he plan to do in
construction if suddenly he found two cemeteries on the site?
Mr. Shimp replied that was very complicated. He would say for one thing going back to the
reference in Deed Book 61 he knows that was a much larger parcel. The Deed Book would be
something like 1920 there about. So this property is the parent track of all the neighborhoods
around it. So there have been some cemeteries at some time. He has been on the site and not
seen that. There are required steps that must be taken if they run across a cemetery. There
are regulations that dictate that and certainly they would have to follow those if that came to be.
Mr. Randolph said on that site if in fact there are those two cemeteries one of them may hold
the remains of a Mr. William Early who was married to Elizabeth Garth Michie and Michie
Tavern was at that point located in Earlysville. So there is a very good possibility that Mr. Early
is related to John Early for whom Earlysville is named. There could be quite a bit of history on
that site which might be worth looking into. He just thought he would bring that up for Mr. Shimp
to be aware of.
Ms. Firehock said he mentioned the importance of preserving that lawn area in the center as
part of the reason he did not want to have the wide road to meet County subdivision standards.
She would like to hear a little bit more about what his intended use of that is since it says
community lawn. She asked if that was to be improved in any way. She asked if he anticipates
people using it and if they are going to do any kind of safety improvements. She imagined
children running back and forth from their house to play on this lot and asked him to tell the
Commission a little bit more about the design and intention for that.
Mr. Shimp replied that the intention certainly is to make it a very flat usable lawn space. There
is a garden element, which would be a community garden. It may not be a vegetable garden
per say, but a place where folks can pool together if they want to make a nice rose or boxwood
garden. The community garden could be within a portion of this space for the neighborhood
association. Part of the benefit of a 14' wide road is someone would not feel inclined to speed
on it and people would feel safer crossing a narrow street. One of the things they found may be
seen in this neighborhood is a very wide street, which someone would feel very comfortable to
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go down. However, that is not in our mind appropriate for 13 lots. He clarified the road does
meet Code, but it is just not what staff recommends. Under the ordinance it can be built this
way. However, staff is just suggesting that it should be wider and have more parking. He
reiterated the down side of that is they would lose some of the functionality of this important
civic space and also create a less safe road if it was wider rather than being narrower.
Ms. Firehock said he won't find her making a case for wider roads personally. However, she
has a follow up question about the trees indicated on the plan. Since this development
necessitates taking down some mature trees and the plan shows some new trees in the circles
in front of the houses, she asked what types of species of trees he plans to replace such as
large shade or small ornamental trees. She asked if thought has been given to that at this
stage.
Mr. Shimp replied yes, they would do large shade trees around the perimeter circle. The
frontage would have a mixture of large shade trees and probably ornamental trees, which would
be something that is larger and bushier to be decorative and provide a separation from the road,
somewhat to the side lots of Old Brook Road.
Mr. Loach said in the staff report it mentions the potential worsening of storm water drainage
impacts from that and asked that Mr. Shimp address the issue and any planned mitigation
factors.
Mr. Shimp pointed out the largest thing they took away from the neighborhood meeting was
their concern about storm water drainage impacts. From his experience in Albemarle County
storm water drainage impacts is a concern that everyone takes seriously and rightfully so
because neighborhoods, like the ones around them, were not given as much attention as it
should have so they have drainage problems. It is noted on the plan and should be proffered as
such that everything will be graded to drain out towards Old Brook Road as a storm sewer
system. Currently the lot somewhat slopes and goes up very steeply and then goes from Old
Brook Road back. The water from the site flows into a little ditch that goes down to a house in
the cul-de-sac right behind us. The proffered plan requires essentially flipping that grade back
towards Old Brooks Road. The little open space in the top corner remains wooded and the
drainage would go that way. It is about one-half or a quarter acre draining back that way versus
about two acres now. So they will be reducing the runoff in that direction.
Mr. Lafferty asked how long they have been aware of the objections of the Planning
Department.
Mr. Shimp replied since their pre -application meeting staff brought attention to conflicting items
in that there is a density of 3 to 6 units an acre, a desire for infill developments to be on the
higher side of that, and then a discussion about the character of existing neighborhoods being
preserved. So that is something staff has brought to their attention.
Mr. Lafferty asked when it was brought to their attention.
Mr. Shimp replied it has been months since sometime back in August. They have had an
understanding that they simply disagree and say that there is a plan that can work for this. It is
a higher density that works and it does not take away from the character of the neighborhood.
That is largely how they have gotten to this point. They feel that at this point they need an
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action by the Planning Commission to say what the right way to approach this is. They have
known that all along, had discussions about that and just looked to the Commission to weigh in.
Mr. Lafferty asked about the mixed use since they are using the Neighborhood Model.
Mr. Shimp replied they were in agreement with staff on that. First, it does not always require the
Neighborhood Model and certainly it would be out of character with what exists. Therefore, they
have excluded that.
Mr. Lafferty commented that it bothers him a great deal that he has come to the Commission
with no proffers and has not addressed many of the concerns of the Planning Department. He
almost feels like it is not even a valid application.
Mr. Shimp responded that he must respectfully disagree with that and say it relates to proffers.
They think these are not negotiable because they are going to follow the policy and it has got to
be done.
Mr. Lafferty asked why he has not done it before this meeting.
Mr. Shimp replied when the application was submitted in December for the January meeting
there was discussion by the Board about amending how the policy was enforced relating to
existing density. That was not resolved until around the end of December. It has not been 100
percent resolved yet. However, there has been a series of actions taken consistent. So they
now feel they know what the expectation of the Board is and intend to provide that.
Mr. Lafferty asked if he could have written in the plans that they would do whatever the
expectations were instead of saying he will do it tomorrow.
Mr. Shimp replied their expectation is if they get past this meeting tonight and do not provide the
cash proffers our plan would be denied by the Board of Supervisors. They have complete
confidence in this Commission to make that recommendation one way or the other and the
Board of Supervisors to adhere to it.
Ms. Monteith commented that Mr. Randolph had a good point that if an application is not
complete then perhaps it should come to the Commission in a work session format. It seems
like it uses up a lot of times for staff, the community and Commission. Therefore, she thinks
that should be considered in the future.
Mr. Shimp said that he did not think the application in any way was incomplete from the
standpoint of what is required. There is an element of a disagreement perhaps or it is a different
look at how the Comprehensive Plan could be interpreted for this property. But, that is not a
matter of they have heard what they said and ignored it. It is a matter of they have discussed it
all along and said the Planning Commission and Board of Supervisors will sort this out. That is
why they are here.
Mr. Lafferty asked if he was implying the Planning Department is wrong.
Mr. Shimp replied if the Planning Department's position is that anything over the existing density
is not compatible and completely void in relation to the Comprehensive Plan, he thinks that is
wrong and would encourage them to speak. He thinks what staff is saying is they review their
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taking on this because it is not defined or absolute on how to interrupt what the character is and
that ours is a little too far away perhaps from what is there to be consistent.
Mr. Lafferty asked how long did had he known that the Planning Department recommended
denial.
Mr. Shimp replied they had always assumed they would and have always told them that. Again,
this is not a matter this is not safe or it does not meet Codes. It is a matter of this is not
something that has come up before. There has to be an interpretation of what is the relationship
between existing neighborhoods and infill development in these places. That is what needs to
be decided.
Mr. Morris invited public comment.
C. Murphy Moss, resident of 1657 Old Brook Road, said his property was four doors toward Rio
Road from the applicant's property and on the same side of the street. They strongly oppose
this application and support staff's recommendations to deny it. First, our subdivision Rain Tree
is a stable pleasant community of entirely single-family detached homes each facing the street
at a density of roughly 2 acres per unit considering the lots of common areas provided. It has
operated successfully for around 30 years under R-2 zoning. It provides a Neighborhood Model
that fosters joggers, strollers, pet walkers visiting and other amenities. Its arrangement
encourages attention to each property's appearance and care. Many properties abut common
areas, which not only afford privacy and views but also abound with wild life pleasing to
residents. The character of our existing neighborhood would not be preserved under this
application as required by the Places29 Master Plan. Second, ours is not a new development
anticipating the various combinations of dwellings and farms contemplated under (NMD)
Neighborhood Model regulations sought by the applicant here. The application covers 2.6 acres
of which the applicant intends to use only 1.6 acres for construction of dwellings. The applicant
proposes 13 dwellings which according to staff results in a density of only 4.9 acre per dwelling.
Clearly the density of the existing neighborhood would not be preserved under this application
as required by the Places29 Plan. Third, granting this application would tax our area with at
least 130 more vehicle trips per day not to mention the trips of all the construction vehicles
required and what the applicant said would optimistically take three years to complete. He
would assure that our neighbors expressed major concerns about such traffic additions, adding
to traffic the dust and noise associated with substantial tree removal, serious grading of the site
and years of internal street and dwelling construction. They would anticipate substantial
disturbance of normal living conditions for our residents for years. For these and other reasons
they urge the Commission to follow the recommendations of staff and deny the pending
applications.
Grant Webster, resident of 1681 Old Brook Road, said his house borders the requested
rezoning property to the south. He commented on the following six items of concern. One, he
thoroughly endorsed the Planning staffs recommendation to deny the rezoning of this parcel of
land. He believes their insight on the character of our neighborhood is very accurate. Two, this
parcel is located in Neighborhood II of Places29. "Residential neighborhoods of predominately
single-family homes are located north of Rio Road including Dunlora, Rain Tree, Westmoreland,
Woodbrook and Carrsbrook." He would add Field Brook and Still Meadows to this. All these
except Dunlora are west of the railroad tracks. Development east of the railroad tracks includes
neighborhoods of both Neighborhood and Urban Density levels, Stonehenge and Riverrun. He
would have Belvedere added to that list. This proposal by Red Dirt Developments belongs east
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of the railroad tracks and not west. There are not duplexes in our area or this type of density.
Three, the guiding principles of vision statements list the importance of preserving the character
of existing neighborhoods. The proposed project does not meet this goal. Developing this lot
while preserving the character of the neighborhood would consist of 3 to 4 single-family homes
oriented with driveways entering onto Old Brook Road similar to all the existing homes in Rain
tree. Four, on a personal note he has lived in his house for 18.5 years and was the first house
built in this last section of Raintree. He expected to hear construction while the remaining 8
houses are being built. Now retired, he has relished the quiet enjoyment of his property. The
developer says that his project will take 2 to 3 years to complete. This will start with chain saws
to cut down existing trees followed by bulldozers to change the grading including lots of dust
and of course hammering and nail guns. After all of this he will be able to walk out into his
backyard and see a variable wall of 5 houses 30' high, 20' from the property line blocking out
everything to his left. He might as well be in an apartment complex. Five, recently there was a
topography study to check the line of sight for traffic coming in and out of the proposed
development. It told him he might be requested to cut down trees and shrubbery on his
property that Snow's Garden Center planted 17 years ago and even a possibility the bank in
front of his house may be requested to be cut down. Six, why rezone only to suit one
developer? Look at an aerial view and you will see this project does not belong here. He has
not heard a single person from our neighborhood that is in favor of this project. What good is
the Comprehensive Plan if a small plot in the middle of a huge R-2 zoned area can be changed
for a developer request so he can make money and then leave the area worse off than before?
There are plenty of other places in Albemarle County for Red Dirt Development to succeed
without alienating a neighborhood. Staff lists a number of issues with this project that his 3
minutes do not allow him to address. In conclusion, he asked the Commission to follow the
recommendation of the staff and deny this rezoning request.
144W Jerry Rainey, of 1673 Old Brook Road, said he was in opposition to the proposal. His leading
question: is why here? Why come into a community with hundreds of homes that have been
established for 30 plus years with one lot per home facing the street and take 2.6 acres and put
13 homes there? Simple math tells him if they are going to use one acre for common area that
leaves 1.6 acres for 13 homes. That is 10 homes per acre, which is just not acceptable. The
engineer speaking showed slides of different communities with duplex homes. But, they are
designed for that. There was never an intention to put duplex homes in this community. They
can look at all the surrounding communities and they are all single-family homes. He had no
idea what the infrastructure problems might amount to. A little history in terms of this meeting
and the meeting with the developer; he remembers an old saying that you don't get a second
chance at a first impression. They met here in August with the developer with 30 plus people.
They were pretty much unanimously against this project and expressed the reasons why. The
developer was adamant that he did not want to come into a community where he was not
wanted. They thought that meeting pretty much solved the problem. The developer came back
a couple of months later and said he had changed the plan. All he did was move the homes
back. He took a couple of the duplexes off and replaced them with single-family homes. So
they are still with 13 families trying to come into this community, bringing in a lot of traffic and a
product that no one really wants. In addition to that no one has mentioned that they have no
product history. This company is less than a year old. They have never done this before. They
don't have anything to look at. They don't have any assurance that this is what they have done
over here or go look at this community. There is none of that. He would say again, why here?
It is simply to make money. If it is making the community better or not making it worse, then
fine. But, he did not see it.
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Jim Tierney, of 1650 Old Brook Road, said he represents his family who has lived there for eight
years. This plan from our considerations really excluded not only the staff's recommendations
but also the community's. Therefore, he was opposed to this for several reasons. One, it breaks
up the character of the neighborhood for reasons that have already been described here. Two,
there was an impact brought up about the housing values. The suggested price the properties
were going to be listed for was $425,000. He would be thrilled if those houses were able to get
that kind of amount of money in this market in that neighborhood. Unfortunately, he thinks that
is an unrealistic representation of what those houses will go for. Three, he has concerns about
the overall safety. He has two children who play in the neighborhood. They live off Old Brook
Road. His concerns are the impacts from the additional traffic. On that section of Old Brook
Road there is a line of sight on that bend, which may be in compliance but is dangerous. The
way that the layout is presented right now they will have additional parking on Old Brook Road,
which will further restrict the line of sight for drivers. Four, he also has concerns about the plan
to put a cross walk across Old Brook Road to get to the sidewalk. There is only one sidewalk
on Old Brook Road, which was on the opposite side of the road. So those residents would have
to cross the road right now and he thinks that especially at that bend represents a safety
concern. Five, the other impact he would ask to be considered is the impact on Woodbrook
Elementary School. The school is currently overcrowded by 60 children. That was partially
because of the redistricting from Agnor Hurt, but also because of the large influx of families that
came in from the new housing that was placed right off Rio Road. There are no requests for the
County to make any expansions to Woodbrook right now. Therefore, he does have a concern
about that. Six, there are lots of new houses right now attached and detached houses similar to
this plan that are right down the road that have not yet been filled. The construction has not
been completed there. Why do they need to place more houses on this location? He would be
very interested to see the fill rate in the new developments by Penn Park.
` WW Ira Kreisman, six year resident of 413 Westmoreland Court, said they just learned about this
request yesterday. He was in agreement with staff about the change to the character of the
neighborhood. He has been speaking to neighbors and friends all day by making phone calls
and emails for residents along Westmoreland Court and the other end of the neighborhood.
Everyone he has spoken with is in strong opposition to the plan mainly for the reasons that it
does change the characteristics of the neighborhood. He was not sure if there is a definition for
what the characteristic of the neighborhood would be and what that means as to the density.
However, he believes that any reasonable person would say that a change of 2 houses per acre
to 4.9 or more, depending on how you look at the acreage used, is indeed a change in the
characteristic of the neighborhood. The duplexes alone are a change in the characteristic of the
neighborhood. He just wanted to share that with the Commission. His neighbors have been
emailing throughout the day sharing their opinions about the proposal. He wanted to make sure
that was heard tonight since many residents could not be present. Some of the residents raised
concerns about the Comprehensive Plan including the mixed non-residential units. Although
that does not seem to be involved in the plan, they are all confused as to why the commercial
service and industrial use is in there to begin with. They are concerned about the precedent that
might set for other empty lots along Carrsbrook if this were to be approved. All of his other
concerns have been addressed by the previous speakers.
Ronnie Roberts said he was a resident of 1095 Ramblewood Place, which is on the corner of
Old Brook Road just a short distance from where this proposed subdivision has been planned.
He was not in favor of it being placed in this particular area. It does impact the character of the
neighborhood as well as the other issues that obviously have been done by the Department of
Transportation by reducing the speed limit from a 35 to a 30 mile an hour zone through that
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area and also reducing the speed limit on Carrsbrook Drive from a 35 to a 25 mile per hour
zone. Traffic conditions are a concern. Also whether what is proposed here involves a private
entity to go in and out to the property, which then forces someone else to come to plow the
roads other than VDOT. That will then make it difficult for them to get out. Then parking onto
the roadway itself will make it more difficult for the plows to be able to push Old Brook Road
during inclement weather. The other side, too, is the increased traffic during the summer
months when a lot of the children are out moving about in that area. It also pulls the resources
from the law enforcement community to be able to come into that area and place whether it is
mobile patrols or stationary patrols to be able to deal with some of the speeding motorists
coming through there. It is currently a cut through roadway to get back over to 29 when traffic
backs up on Rio Road. He is totally opposed to the proposal and supports the Commission's
denial of this subdivision.
John Guillot, resident of Berwick Circle in Westmoreland, said he has lived quietly a couple
blocks north of the proposed site for more 20 years. There have been so many good points
raised already about the harmony of the neighborhood being affected, etc. He would like to
address a couple of things particularly that might not have been said. This site sits on a stretch
of Old Brook Road which is a main though fare for the entire neighborhood north of Rio. That
particular site has perhaps some of the worse sight lines on that road. Through the lower parts
of the road towards Rio they have a flat straight, very easily seen, and he was not even sure if
they would need a 30 miles an hour zone except there are a million kids that get off school
buses there. However, right there the road bends and coming from either direction there is not
a good sight line because of the lay of the land.
Mr. Guillot said he was bothered by the drawing of the proposed community. As drawn it seems
like an enclave more urban than suburban. It would make these new neighbors experience the
neighborhood unlike most of the rest experience it. He thinks they might as well put up a gate
fronting on Old Brook Road. There will be two years or more of dirt, noise and heavy vehicle
traffic. What is the payoff for the rest of the neighborhood? He thinks the payoff is if it is not
there. He is very concerned about water runoff. On another map there was a small pond
across Old Brook Road. It is all part of an unbuildable ravine and stream system that is part of
the Rivanna Water Shed. There is currently a real problem with standing water at the low point
of Old Brook Road just north of this. They are talking about grading the property so that more
water would flow into Old Brook. The existing storm drains there can't handle the present flow.
This would make it much worse. The ice in the winter makes it terrible there. He concluded that
there is a Joni Mitchell song they might be guided by. She sings of seeing a fancy license plate
on a car in Hollywood. The plate reads "just ice". She reflects that if not enough people care or
unless people holding power in positions of public trust there then justice can become "just ice".
The strong doing what they will and the weak suffering what they must. Please give us justice
tonight and deny this petition
Donald Layne, President of the Rain tree Homeowners Association, introduced John McDowell,
the Vice -President. A lot of good points have been brought up of which he will not be redundant
and say again. They strongly support staff's recommendation to deny this rezoning. They have
a number of concerns, which he will address. The development is not consistent with the
character of the existing neighborhood and it will have a negative effect within the community,
especially the homes bordering this development. The 130 trips a day coming out of this
development they already know will have a negative impact on Old Brook Road. Left hand
turns come to mind. It is not really adequate because when one comes out there it is a blind
curve. So left hand turns coming in and out of that subdivision are going to be problematic.
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Regarding drainage issues, the residents in Rain tree have been plagued by runoff problems
1%WW ever since Hauser Homes developed Old Brook Road. They have a 60' or more drop off behind
Old Brook Road where the subdivision is going to be built. Now the runoff is substantial. By
adding more homes with roofs and hard top surfaces they are going to increase that run off
even more. It cost him $10,000 already to try to alleviate the water problems coming off that hill.
It filled his pool up with mud. He did not know how they are going to regrade that towards Old
Brook Road since that is a lot of dirt. He invites the Commissioners to come to his home to view
the problems in the drop off from Old Brook Road to Robin Hill Court and to Brightfield Place
directly behind the site. So the developer requested an easement, which he shall read. "Our
current plan for the overgrowth project accesses the public septic system by tying into the
manhold located on Hartfield Lane. Because tying into that location will require us to disturb Old
Brook Road and Hartsfield Lane, the Albemarle County Service Authority has asked us to
explore getting an easement from Rain tree Homeowner's Association to tie into our sewer lines
coming down to Brightfield Place." They are not going to support or entertain an easement for
tying into our septic systems coming through our property.
John McDowell, the Vice -President of the Raintree Homeowners Association, said he has lived
in Raintree for 26 years and has been in that area when he walked his dog. He will be quite
honest that he had no idea how they are going to be able to grade that area because there is a
20' to 25' drop, a tremendous amount of earth. The other thing is part of a zoning issue in it was
a farm and the old lady who lived there sold the rest of the farm to Raintree under the proviso
that she would live there until she died. After she died it became the most predominant part of
Raintree and was unzoned. He wished he could buy and build a house up there.
Kathy Joseph, President of the Fieldbrook Homeowners Association, said all of her concerns
have pretty much been addressed by her predecessors. However, she has a major concern
with fire and rescue getting through that area since it is very tight with the narrow roads. They
have that same problem in their neighborhood with people parking on the streets. Fire and
Rescue cannot get through. They had an incident just recently with the ice storm that Fire and
Rescue did have a problem with getting through. She would strongly support the denial of this
request.
There being no further public comment the public hearing was closed and the matter before the
Planning Commission for discussion and action.
Mr. Morris invited the applicant for rebuttal.
Mr. Shimp replied that he would wait until after the questions.
Mr. Morris invited questions or further discussion from the Commission.
Mr. Dotson asked if there anyone from the Engineering Department present tonight to address
questions about the roadway design in any depth beyond what they have.
Ms. Baldwin responded the engineer that reviewed it is not here. But, her recommendation was
exactly what she reiterated in the staff report.
Mr. Benish pointed out that he wanted to clarify one thing and make sure the facts are straight.
A couple people mentioned unzoned property. The property is zoned R-2 and at 2.6 acres it
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allows 5 units by right without a zoning action. He just wanted to be clear there is some by right
development potential on the property.
Mr. Loach said a number of people brought up the potential for additional developments of this
nature in and around that neighborhood. Are you aware of what that potential is?
Mr. Benish responded that across the street there are a couple other parcels that are of similar
size. As some people have mentioned there is pretty gnarly topography. So staff has not
accessed what their development potential is. However, they are theoretically lots that are 2 to
4 or 5 acres he believed that are across the street and ones that have a single house on them.
There are those lots. In the next neighborhood over there are a couple of small 4 or 5 acre
parcels that they potentially under the current ordinance they could do additional lots.
Mr. Morris closed the public hearing to bring the matter before the Planning Commission for
discussion and action. He invited the applicant to make a rebuttal.
Justin Shimp asked to address a couple of items quickly. Currently it is a little hard to see
around that curve. However, they will take that hill down from 15' to 20' high to being flat. The
survey crew was out to figure out what the nature of that would be to ensure they have the right
site distance, which they do. With this entrance that is going to look a lot different in the
development than it does today. So those things have been verified and it is a technical
requirement. They are found to be satisfactory. When doing a project like this he did not think
they expect the neighbors to come out and be terribly excited about it. It has been an
undeveloped parcel for quite a long time in fairly established neighborhoods. They understand
that and try to be as respectful of our designs as they can to something that works. They looked
at the guidance of the County and the Comprehensive Plan for a lot of those things.
Development is always going to be in somebody's yard. This is a unique neighborhood. One of
the important things to remember here is that the principles about the infill development
encouraging that to be higher density because putting people in development areas is a goal of
the County. Yes, it does cause a temporary disturbance of a mature neighborhood. But, they
have to look past this one parcel and this one spot onto the bigger picture. That is the basis of
this kind of design in this location to put people where there are existing services and
infrastructure for them. There was a question about the value of homes. That is from a very
experienced builder in this area. It was not made up. It has been looked at and they felt it was
realistic based on similar products in the area, which there are several neighborhoods of. Yes,
there are some lots on the ground now. But, they have been at this for a few months now and it
will be many more before it gets approved if it were to be approved. There is a site plan to do,
which can take a year. The initial site work and construction, such as the cutting of trees and
things, may take 4 to 6 months. There is going to be some disturbance at that time. Then, it is a
smaller scale of construction after it, which will take a little time to build all of the houses. But,
by the time they get to that point he envisions the need for lots, which is why they are doing this
project.
Regarding the storm water system on Old Brook Road, Mr. Shimp noted they are not dumping it
directly across the street. It is going to go through a pipe system out. They have talked with
VDOT about that. If it has to be upsized and repaired, they will have to make those repairs.
One of the problems is there is a long stretch of downhill without any storm inlets on that one
side, which probably contributes to the ponding of water. They are going to add another storm
inlet in there, which should take that risk away. He thinks that covers the items that he heard
that he can comment to. Again, he certainly would not have expected from the beginning that
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folks would be excited about an attached product or something different in their neighborhood.
They don't think just because someone lives in an attached product it makes them a bad
neighbor. It is a different kind of product and provides a different option and efficiency of land
use in an area that is convenient to goods and services. Therefore, that is why this is a good
plan. He thanked the Commission for the opportunity for the rebuttal.
Mr. Morris invited further discussion.
Mr. Dotson said the staff report was very straight forward and balanced. It states some
favorable and unfavorable factors. The weights of them are sort of indicated. It seems that
there are some real fatal errors here in this proposal. As submitted it is not ripe. He would ask
for further discussion, but he would be prepared to move for denial.
Mr. Randolph said the Commission's role is to basically take change and growth and broker it in
a responsible manner. After they have spent the investment of time in revising the Comp Plan
he did not hear tonight a compelling need to waive residential zoning to a Neighborhood Model.
He has not heard the case to do that. Certainly there is an adequacy that many people in the
audience have talked about concerning the existing stock on the market or being constructed
within this area yet alone within the count to provide housing similar to what is proposed here.
So that is the philosophical level. The specific level and why he will feel compelled to vote
against this is that he feels that being on site today that the traffic exit is problematic from the
crown of Old Brook Road. He questioned VDOT's analysis and why there was no proffer
provided for the Planning Commission this evening. The road for a fire truck is not 22' wide,
which is what the county engineer recommended. He, too, agrees with Ms. Firehock that he
hates to see wide roads, but when it comes to safety he thinks that trumps aesthetics. He
thinks 22' would be critical. This project is inconsistent with the character of the community and
incongruous with the character of the community. The storm water management plan is not
spelled out here, which is a critical component. Finally, there is the potential of two historically
significant cemeteries on the site. The engineer has indicated they would plan to raise and level
the slope that is right on Old Brook Road, which is where one of the cemeteries may well be.
For several reasons he cited, he would be voting against this proposal.
Ms. Firehock asked to begin by noting if this development were an island not in the context
where it is currently situated she did not have any particular objections to it. She has no
problem with duplexes or townhouses or density that they seek to protect in the rural areas.
However, she is inclined to vote against this. She will wait to hear the opinions of the rest of the
Commissioners. The concerns raised were storm water management, the lack of consistency
with current neighborhood character in terms of the lot alignment, safety concerns that have
been raised, and also the lack of a proffer relating to affordability. Those are the main
objections.
Mr. Loach agreed with Ms. Firehock that he did not see the development itself as being
problematic. He did not see 13 homes and 130 car trips a day as something that would be
totally detrimental for the neighborhood. That said he thinks the applicant really answered it for
him when he said to look at the bigger picture. He thinks the deciding factor, as Mr. Benish
pointed out, is the number of other parcels that are similar to this that could be developed. It is
not the one development that changes the character, but multiple developments that could
occur that would change the character of the neighborhood drastically. He lives on a block that
has a range of density from one house per acre to densities higher than that in Crozet, which
they planned since they knew it was coming. It was part of the parcel of our design whereas he
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has heard from many persons today that the way the area has been developed, as somebody
I�Ww mentioned between the east and west, is the intensity of development that in another area is
absorbing that density. So again, he would go back and agree with Ms. Firehock that he does
not think the development itself is bad. He was more worried about the precedent it would set
and if he was allowed to, as a Planning Commissioner, look at in the Neighborhood Model if a
development is within the character of the community that is what he is worried about. So he
did not think he would be supporting this request.
Mr. Lafferty said he did not want to reiterate what everybody else has said. However, it just
appears this application is incomplete since it did not address the storm water and a lot of
things. He was also concerned there may be a cemetery on the site. It was almost like it was
being designed tonight with some of the things that were brought up. Therefore, he cannot
support it.
Ms. Monteith noted she had already made her comment.
Mr. Morris supported all of his fellow Commissioners on what they have said. One of the things
he is very concerned with is the width of the road for emergency vehicles to get in to turn around
and actually protect the people who would be living in these 13 units as well as the storm water
and the nature of the neighborhood. Therefore, he cannot support this. He noted there were
three items the Commission would be voting on. He suggested the Commission take them in
reverse order.
Mr. Lafferty agreed about taking the requests in reverse order.
Mr. Morris invited a motion on the private street request.
Motion: Mr. Dotson moved and Mr. Randolph seconded for denial of the private street waiver
for ZMA-2013-00015, Northfield Green for all of the reasons stated in the staff report as
unfavorable factors.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0
Mr. Morris noted the next item was a waiver of the mix of use in the Neighborhood Model
District (NMD).
Mr. Kamptner noted as a reminder that this is just a recommendation to the Board of
Supervisors.
Mr. Dotson noted this was an odd one since he did not think they would want to propose mixed
uses in this development. He assumed the appropriate action would be to recommend approval
of the waiver of mixed uses because it is not appropriate to have mixed uses on this site.
Mr. Morris asked if the motion makes sense.
Mr. Kamptner noted it was under the assumption that if the Board were to decide to rezone the
property to Neighborhood Model the Commission recommends the mixture of uses waiver be
approved. That is ultimately the Board's decision when they consider the zoning map
amendment.
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Mr. Lafferty asked Mr. Dotson if that was his motion, and Mr. Dotson replied yes.
Motion: Mr. Dotson moved and Mr. Lafferty seconded that if the Board were to decide to
rezone the property to Neighborhood Model in ZMA-2013-15 Northfield Green the Commission
recommends approval of the waiver of Mix of Uses in NMD.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0.
Mr. Morris noted the last item was the zoning map amendment.
Motion: Mr. Dotson moved and Mr. Lafferty seconded to recommend denial of ZMA-2013-15,
Northfield Green for the reasons as cited in the staff report as unfavorable factors and identified
by the Commission in its discussion.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0.
Mr. Morris noted the matters will be forwarded to the Board of Supervisors to be heard on a date
to be determined with a recommendation for denial of ZMA-2013-15, Northfield Green.
The Planning Commission took a recess at 8:00 p.m. and the meeting reconvened at 8:08
p.m.
b. ZTA-2012-00012 Steep Slopes
The Planning Commission will hold a public hearing to receive comments on its intent to adopt
an ordinance to amend Chapter 18, Zoning, of the Albemarle County Code by establishing a
steep slopes overlay district and regulations pertaining thereto. This ordinance would amend
Sec. 18-3.1, Definitions, by adding definitions of two classes of steep slopes of 25% or greater —
managed slopes and preserved slopes, and amending the definition of critical slopes; add Sec.
18-37.1 through 18-37.6 to establish the district, establish standards and procedures for
disturbing and preserving managed and preserved slopes; amend Sec. 35.1, Fees, to provide
that no fees are required for certain applications pertaining to steep slopes; and amend Secs.
18-4.2, Critical slopes, 18-4.2.1, Building site required, 18-4.2.3, Location of structures and
improvements, 18-4.2.5, Modification or waiver, 18-4.7, Open space, 18-5.1.39, Off -site
employee parking for industrial use, 18-5.1.44, Farm worker housing, 18-32.4.1.3, Contents of
preapplication plan, 18-32.5.2, Contents of an initial site plan, 18-32.7.5.2, Location of utilities
above and below ground, and 18-33.4, Uniform procedures for owner -initiated zoning map
amendments and special use permits, to add references to managed or preserved slopes where
critical slopes are already referenced, as appropriate. A copy of the full text of the ordinance is
on file in the office of the Clerk of the Board of Supervisors and in the Department of Community
Development, County Office Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. (Bill Fritz)
AND
C. STA-2014-00001 Steep Slopes
The Planning Commission will hold a public hearing to receive comments on its intent to
recommend adoption of an ordinance to amend Chapter 14, Subdivision of Land, of the
Albemarle County Code, by amending Secs. 14-216, Contents of preapplication schematic plat,
14-302, Contents of preliminary plat, 14-304, Request to disturb critical slopes, 14-404, Lot
location to allow access from lot onto street or shared driveway, 14-410, Standards for all
streets and alleys, 14-420, Location of utilities above- and underground, 14-422, Sidewalks and
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planting strips, to add references to steep, managed or preserved slopes where critical or steep
slopes are already referenced. A copy of the full text of the ordinance is on file in the office of
the Clerk of the Board of Supervisors and in the Department of Community Development,
County Office Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. (Bill Fritz)
AND
d. ZMA-2014-00001 Steep Slopes
The Planning Commission will hold a public hearing to receive comments on its intent to
recommend adoption of an amendment to the zoning map adopted under Sec. 18-1.7, Zoning
Map, contained in Chapter 18, Zoning, of the Albemarle County Code by adding one or more
maps delineating the boundaries of the steep slopes overlay district and depicting managed and
preserved slopes of 25% or greater therein. A copy of the map and its adopting ordinance are
on file in the office of the Clerk of the Board of Supervisors and in the Department of Community
Development, County Office Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. (Bill Fritz)
Mr. Morris said the Planning Commission would be briefed on all three items, but an action
would be needed on each item separately.
Bill Fritz presented a PowerPoint presentation to provide information and recommendations for
ZTA-2012-12 Steep Slopes, STA-2014-1 Steep Slopes, and ZMA-2014-1 Steep Slopes.
In January 2009 the Board of Supervisors approved a zoning text amendment (ZTA) allowing
administrative approval of development on critical slopes in the development area if the slopes
had been created by an approved plan and to allow replacement of structures. That ZTA has
now been largely undone by the "Sinclair Decision". It now has to go the Board of Supervisors
for a special exception. Additional Resolutions of Intent were adopted to implement additional
changes to how development on slopes is addressed. To develop an ordinance the County has
worked with the public by holding two Roundtables, a work session with the Board of Supervisor
appointed advisory committees, and mailed approximately 5,000 notices directly to affected
property owners. Other work has included a work session with the Board of Supervisors in
November, 2012 and the Planning Commission in August, 2013. Staff considered all of the
comments made as a result of the public outreach or work sessions, reviewed the
Comprehensive Plan, studied how other localities regulated critical slopes, and applied our own
County experiences in processing a large number of waivers to determine the most important
issues to the community. That led staff to develop some key concepts in developing a new
ordinance.
Current Situation
All slopes of 25% or greater are defined as Critical Slopes.
Disturbance of Critical Slopes requires a special exception.
Certain activities are exempt from critical slopes regulations.
Twenty-five percent slopes are slopes that rise or fall 1 foot over a 4 foot run or put another way
a slope of approximately 14 degrees. The ordinance sets out the criteria for reviewing a special
exception.
The review of a critical slopes exception addresses the potential adverse impacts caused by the
movement of soil and rock, storm water run-off, siltation, loss of aesthetic resources, and,
possible septic system failure.
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Not all activity on critical slopes requires a special exception. For example, for lots that existed
prior to the adoption of the critical slope regulations the establishment of the first single family
dwelling unit is exempt provided that no alternatives are available. Access ways, public utility
lines and appurtenances, storm water management facilities, and any other public facilities
necessary to allow the use of the parcel would not be subject to the critical slopes requirements
provided that no reasonable alternative location or alignment exists.
In developing the ordinance that is before the Commission tonight staff with the direction of the
Board wishes to stress some key concepts:
Ordinance is only for the development areas.
No expansion of areas designated as critical/steep slopes.
All critical/steep slopes retain protection.
Protection is tiered.
Creation of an overlay district designating "Preserved" and "Managed" slopes.
"Preserved" slopes may not be disturbed except for a limited number of permitted activities.
"Managed" slopes may be disturbed by right, subject to applicable performance standards.
Criteria used to designate areas as Preserved or Managed:
Preserved Areas
The slopes are part of a system of slopes associated with a water feature.
The slopes are part of a hillside system.
The slopes are identified as a resource in the Open Space Plan.
The slopes are identified as a resource in the Comprehensive Plan.
The slopes may be of significant value to the Entrance Corridor District.
The slopes are a contiguous area of 10,000 square feet or more or a close grouping of slopes
less than 10,000 square feet.
The slopes are shown to be preserved by a prior County action.
Managed Areas
The contiguous area of critical slopes is limited or fragmented.
The slopes are not associated with a water feature.
The slopes are not natural.
The slopes have been significantly disturbed prior to June 1, 2012.
The slopes are located within previously approved single family residential lots.
The slopes are shown to be disturbed by a prior County action.
These criteria are not absolute and sometimes conflict. Staff prepared maps using these
criteria, as included in the executive summary.
The first map labeled Steep Slopes Overlay District — Pantops shows in green all of the
"Preserved" slopes and all of the "Managed" slopes in orange. Together "Preserved" and
"Managed" slopes show all existing critical slopes shown on the first map.
In the Piney Mountain Neighborhood Steep Slopes Overlay Map green areas are preserved
slopes and orange slopes are managed. This area shows some slopes which exhibit mixed
characteristics. The area near the river behind the former Badger Powhatan site is
manufactured which would tend to make them managed. However, due to their size and
location near the floodplain of the river we have proposed them to be managed. Other slopes
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near the entrance to Briarwood are fairly contiguous large areas. However, due to prior
approvals they are marked as Managed to reflect prior actions.
The map also shows things that are taken care of in the ordinance. He pointed out large areas
which are on lots. Those areas would be marked as Managed because they are on existing
lots. The way the mapping is done it creates large polygons. It is pretty problematic to crop
these. Staff spent a lot of time preparing these maps.
Managed slopes may be disturbed. Staff is recommending development standards to address
the potential impact generated by developing these slopes. When cut and fill occur slopes
steeper that the creation of a flat area can result in the creation of slopes greater than previously
existed.
In the presentation it shows graphically the kind of development standards staff has proposed.
This is a result of all the research staff did. Staff did extensive research in communities all over
the United States and outside of the country in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.
One of the questions raised by Ms. Joseph is the diagram, Land Form/Graded Slopes, and
whether the ordinance mandates that sort of curvature. It does not. What it is getting to is the
rounded components. Staff certainly encouraged the natural land forms, but it is virtually
impossible to draft an ordinance that would mandate that kind of curvature.
Activities Permitted in Preservation Areas —
Expansion of an existing single family dwelling.
Construction of the first dwelling on an existing lot. The construction of the first dwelling may
occur in Preservation Areas only if sufficient area outside of preservation areas is not available.
This is virtually identical to the existing ordinance dealing with critical slopes.
Necessary public facilities.
Trails
Accessory uses and structures to a dwelling unit.
Distribution facilities for water, sewer, energy and communications.
Any activity authorized by an approved legislative action.
Any use allowed by right in the underlying district if new topographic information is
submitted to show the slopes are less than 25%
The ordinance includes criteria to determine if public facilities are necessary. Staff added those
to the ordinance. There is nothing like that in the ordinance now. So it is somewhat problematic
to administer:
Insufficient area outside of preserved slopes.
Avoids impacting other resources such as floodplain.
Consistent with comp plan.
Necessary to provide interconnection
Creates an unnecessary hardship
The last provision was added based on the last work session of the Planning Commission. This
provision allows development on slopes of less that 25% without requiring the developer to seek
a rezoning of the overlay district. This is an acknowledgment of the maps staff was working
from were developed in July, 2012. Activities have occurred since those maps were done.
Therefore, the maps may show them as critical slopes right now. If new mapping is prepared
either by the county or by field run topo, but of superior quality to what they have, then that
would trump this and the activities are now permitted on there. That was a way of
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administratively addressing all of those changes without having to go through a big effort, which
was something the Planning Commission pointed out before.
This also addresses some of the concerns that Marcia Joseph has brought up in her letter. It
asks what if there is a particular stream or pond shown on a property and that has gone away?
Well it is gone away and the new topo will reflect that and allow the use then to occur. For the
particular property about which Ms. Joseph has raised concerns, it is very likely that in the next
round of County mapping those features will go away as they update the mapping. That is
going to happen potentially this summer.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out the new state maps have already been done, and Mr. Fritz noted staff
would be adding that to the layers.
Mr. Fritz continued the presentation.
If the Board of Supervisors adopts the maps as recommended by staff it is only the designated
Preserved and Managed areas that are being adopted. All the underlying data is just that. The
roads are potentially going to move. Lot lines are going to move. Streams may move because
of approved development or other things. Again, it is the designated areas that are being
adopted.
The next map in the presentation shows houses with critical slopes surrounding them. Under
the current ordinance any disturbance of these slopes to construct a deck, shed or terraced
garden involving a 2 foot retaining wall would not be permitted unless a special exception was
applied for and obtained. This requires an application, fee and hearing by the Board of
Supervisors. These factors may tend to result in the homeowner either not undertaking the
improvements or simply installing the improvements without a building permit. Under the
proposed ordinance the owner would need only apply for the appropriate type of building permit
and verify that the design standards are being met. For most residential development types
adherence to the design standards will be a very simple matter likely not requiring any special
plans or on site design.
One of the other questions that arose is what if the property shows that the slopes are
somewhat close to the property line. If they wanted to regrade the property so that the toe was
closer to the adjacent property than the ordinance states there are two provisions in the
ordinance that allow modification of that. One is the zoning administrator can do it. The second
is if the applicant gets an easement from the adjoining property they can do it. Therefore, there
are two safety valves there that would allow development to occur at the toe or top of a slope to
be closer to the property line. There is a provision in the ordinance to address that concern.
Some of the benefits of the Steep Slopes Overlay District are:
Increases protection for the most important slopes.
Allows reasonable use of the County's development area.
Provides certainty in development.
Decreases applicant cost and County review costs.
Addresses the decision of the Virginia Supreme court in the Town of Occoquan v. Elm Street
Development, Inc. case.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission support the three actions for the zoning text
amendment, zoning map amendment and subdivision text amendment and recommend
approval to the Board of Supervisors.
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Mr. Morris invited questions for staff.
Ms. Firehock asked what the decision in the Town of Occoquan case was that they are trying to
meet.
Mr. Fritz replied it was an unpublished decision of the Virginia Supreme Court (April 6, 2012),
where the Court held that Virginia Code §15.2-2288.1 prohibited the town from requiring a
special exception to allow the disturbance of steep slopes for a proposed townhouse
development that was otherwise permitted by right. To reach that conclusion, the Court
characterized the special exception as a density related permit which was therefore prohibited
by the statute.
Mr. Randolph noted on page 2 it says the slopes are part of a system of slopes associated with
a water feature. He asked staff to define a water feature and if that includes a wetland?
Mr. Fritz replied it includes a wetland, a pond, and a stream and in some cases it even included
storm water detention facilities. In the Pantops area there was a storm water management
facility. It is another example where slopes and water features were manufactured, but they
have the slopes around it designated as preserved. It is based on the extensive amount of
steep slopes that are there and the prior action of the county to say those areas should not be
further developed. It could be all those things. They even looked in some cases at swales that
they were just not sure of whether or not they constitute a headwater.
Mr. Randolph asked under this proposed system if someone has a property in the development
area which is defined as managed, whether that homeowner could exercise a by right permit
even if there was a water feature, a hillside system or a wetland in the back yard contributing to
a stream.
Mr. Fritz replied no if there are other overlays. For example, if there was a WPO, which is not a
buildable area, you cannot build in a Water Protection Area. Even if the slope were marked as
Managed or it is a Preserved slope but there is an existing house and they want to build a deck
and extend into the WPO area, the WPO regulations would then say no. The ordinance has a
clause that says you have to meet all other applicable regulations.
Mr. Randolph said he raised the question because he observed in Glenmore that a house went
in with a significant slope in the back yard. He commented at the time to the bull dozer operator
that he was surprised in Albemarle County they could do that with the degree of wetlands in the
back yard. The bull dozer operator said he lived in Virginia Beach and they can't do that in
Virginia Beach. He was concerned how this is going to work because he knew it was wetlands
and observed it as wetlands before it all got bull dozed over. When it is wet during the winter
and there is runoff there is significant water. However, they have changed the ecosystem and
therefore affected the tributary that goes into the Rivanna. Since the County is now expected to
be much more sensitive to water features, how can the County be certain that this new
managed slopes approach will not result in an open season on developing slopes?
Mr. Fritz replied if those slopes were critical that were being disturbed they should not have
been disturbed under the prior ordinance without getting a special exception unless the activity
was an exempt action. He would somewhat doubt it if it was within the Glenmore Subdivision
because it would not have been a lot existing prior to the ordinance. The WPO has provisions
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that do allow for some disturbance within the WPO. However, he would not pretend to be an
*rr expert on the WPO. The answer to the specific question is if those slopes were critical a year
ago when he saw that action occurring it should not have been happening. If those slopes were
critical and they are now being marked as Managed or Preserved but associated with an
existing residential development, they would still have to go through the WPO to ensure that
they are not violating that WPO. He did not know any of the details of that particular lot.
Therefore, he did not know if they did all of those things.
Mr. Randolph said he did not know either. He was concerned with the implication of increased
slope alteration to erosion, runoff and storm water management. He asked what kind of
protections are they seeing built into this policy in the developed area as they move over to two
categories of definition of slopes to ensure that if Managed slopes do become subject to
alteration that there really are strong erosion and storm water management controls in place.
Mr. Fritz replied he would suspect there are probably individuals regrading their yards, putting in
sheds and terracing their lawns right now without getting the appropriate building permits. It is
in part because it is a hassle to go and get. This should encourage them to get the permit
because it is not as hard to get, which means they now can really analyze those things that are
going on. Also, they have performance standards that never existed that are in addition to any
other erosion and control measures that ever existed before. The reason he can't say is
because we are a complaint driven organization in terms of the violations. If your neighbor goes
and terraces their yard and you don't have a problem with it, then you are not going to turn them
in. It is possible that you might want to do yours in the future. He is sure that happens.
Hopefully by making the ordinance easier to comply with people will comply with it and they
have the performance standards that are designed to provide better assurances to minimize
impacts.
Mr. Randolph said he understands that staff is a scarce commodity, especially their time. With
this dual level slope management approach will there be increased staff attention to managed
slopes to ensure that it is easier for people to do this, but ensure compliance?
Mr. Fritz noted it was actually easier for staff to do it this way because they won't be processing
waivers which are very time consuming. Instead, staff can focus on actually reviewing the
projects. They have performance standards, which have been worked on by other staff including
the county engineer and Ms. Echols. They pulled best management practices from a wide
variety of locals to try to come up with something. They questioned whether these things are
going to be workable and are they really going to improve the protections of those soils in the
area and make it relatively easier to review. Staff believes the answer is yes. Staff will actually
have additional provisions in the ordinance to point to and say no, since they really do need to
round those slopes and put in reverse slopes, which don't necessarily exist now.
Mr. Dotson commented staff said he had changed something to reflect the very bottom item and
asked where in the text he would find the words that achieve that.
Mr. Kamptner replied it was in section 30.7.4.b.1.h.
Mr. Dotson commented he was a little confused because this is a zoning overlay and it sort of
jumps ahead actually to another point. They talk about amending the district boundaries and
taking land out, which is one remedy. However, they also have this.
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Mr. Fritz replied that was the previous remedy they had. Staff decided to go ahead and leave
that in case someone really wants to go through the whole process of amending it, or if they are
doing some other rezoning at the same time and they want to tack on an amendment to the
overlay district. For example, if you are rezoning from residential to commercial and then want
to say the topo is wrong and the overlay district ought to be amended. They would be updating
all the maps simultaneously. Therefore, they left in the rezoning option.
Mr. Dotson said this is sort of like the 1040 EZ or one could go the long form.
Mr. Fritz replied that was a good analogy.
Mr. Dotson asked if at any point he considered a deminimis size. He looked at these maps with
a magnifying glass and some of them were a size similar to if he took a pen and made a dot.
They seem tiny and don't seem like they are worthy of anybody's concern since they are so
small.
Mr. Fritz replied in some cases they would mark those as Managed. When they went through
the maps it was very time consuming since it goes down to about 60 square feet, which is the
smallest pixel that it will pick up in a critical slope area. Many of those would be marked.
However, one of the factors they found in some cases is it was a block here and there that was
associated with a larger piece. So they went ahead and said that is a system and that area
should be protected. Therefore, it was sometimes yes and sometimes no. There is not a
deminimis.
Mr. Dotson pointed out that he looked at a couple of the maps and could find sites where there
were like two dots that were not near each other, which were colored as Managed as opposed
to Preserved.
Mr. Fritz said to answer his question: did the Commission talk about that? No. However, that
topic did come up in the many layers of conversations, but staff did not sense any great support
for that kind of concept. The support staff felt the best way to proceed was to go ahead and
map these as systems. If they have a little tiny area, but it is part of a larger system, mark it as
Preserved. Otherwise, mark it as Managed. It was brought up at various points. There was not
a lot of support for that concept and staff did not propose it.
Mr. Dotson said as a landowner if he had one of these little dots that is labeled as Managed and
it was smaller than this carpeted area how would that constrain his behavior to have it left
labeled as Managed?
Mr. Fritz replied if it was labeled as Managed he would be able to develop it, but just meet the
performance standards. He could not wind up with a retaining wall that was 10' tall since it
would have to be tiered. If the slope was over 2:1 for a distance of more than 20' in elevation he
would have to put a reverse slope in to slow the water down. But, they could develop the
property.
Mr. Dotson asked if he just wanted to wipe out the slope he could do that, and Mr. Fritz replied
yes as long as he meets the design standards.
Mr. Loach commented that on the opening page in the middle paragraph under discussion it
states that Preserved areas of development will not be permitted with the exception of uses to
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allow reasonable use of the property to ensure that a taking has not occurred. He thinks in the
future staff is probably going to have to better define exactly what that statement means. He
thinks they are going to have to expand it to satisfy some of the questions that will come up.
Mr. Fritz replied that as they were developing the maps staff looked at a couple of things. In
looking at the maps there were some cases where they saw all of the property is going to be
marked as Preserved. Staff looked to see if they could crop it in such a way as to leave a
reasonable portion of this property so as to be developed. In some cases they said no, there
really was a significant system or something like that. However, in the ordinance a list of
permitted uses on preserved slopes are included to ensure that reasonable use of the property
can occur including construction of the first dwelling, as an example.
Mr. Loach suggested defining what that threshold is since it needs to be very precise because
some people are going to make sure the County is not overstepping its bounds as far as a
taking. The Commission has heard it in the past. If they look at tonight, it is a classic example in
they heard the concern of the public talking about the steep slopes in this. Then another
gentleman comes up and said he spent $10,000 to correct a problem in drainage that he had
probably as a result. They have seen the disasters in the past. However, he thinks it is a great
step forward in dealing with steep slopes. The Planning Commission has always dealt with
this. They have had a couple cases where there were 100 percent steep slopes. The way it is
worded they need to make sure they can define a threshold for that, which is just a caveat.
Mr. Lafferty noted on page 5, section 30.7.2 it says all land in the county. He asked if it should
say development area of County.
Mr. Fritz replied it would take care of itself because it says within the boundaries of it.
Mr. Lafferty said on page 6 of 30.7.4.b does he mean at the end of the sentence to say
Preserved slopes where it says use permit on Managed slopes.
Mr. Fritz replied yes, it should say on Preserved slopes.
Mr. Randolph questioned on page 2 in section 4.2.1.a and (i) he used the term in Critical or
Preserved slopes. If they turn over to page 3 in b. at the top it says, "No structure,
improvement, or land disturbing activity to establish the structure or improvement shall be
located on critical slopes." Should it also say Critical or Preserved slopes just to be consistent in
that section?
Mr. Fritz replied that he would have to go back and look at his notes on that. However, he
thinks they addressed it by adding section 30.7.4. However, he will have to double check it. He
pointed out they had to maintain the term Critical slopes. He wanted to reemphasize that the
Steep slopes is only in the Development Areas. So Critical slopes still exist in the Rural Areas,
which is why they had to retain references to Critical slopes. That is why both terms are in
there.
Mr. Dotson commented on the definition of steep slopes; he could not read it and make sense
out of it. He suggested that it needs to be a sentence. The others are where it says slopes
where such and such happens. So it seems like it could be slopes on lands outside of the
overlay district that continue to be Critical slopes and there needs to be a sentence.
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Mr. Fritz replied that staff can take another look at that.
Mr. Morris opened the public hearing and invited public comment
Ms. Marcia Joseph, representing Blake Hurt, said she was concerned about the map showing
the ponds on map on tax map 32, parcels 22 and 22M as shown in the information distributed.
(Attachment D on file with the printed minutes in the office of the clerk) In the photographs it
shows there are erosion and sediment control ponds. However, there is no creek on the
property. She was concerned in the future development of the site staff would look at this map
and see the pond and creek and say they are not going to be able to do anything on the site.
Therefore, to avoid confusion in the future they would really like to see these things removed.
Ms. Joseph agreed with staff's changes since the last time. It is making some sense and also
helping with predictability. However, the design standards themselves are depicted in the Code,
which means they can't change since once they are there they are there. She questioned if
these regulations could be modified if site specific things come up. If the answer is no since it is
Code and that is the way it goes, then she guessed that is the answer. However, sometimes
when looking at sites different things happen. The one she was most concerned about was the
diversion above or below the slope itself. If she was collecting all the water in drainage
structures in a parking lot on the top of the slope and there is a curb with no water coming down,
does she still have to do this diversion? She is trying to figure out what is the point. If they are
dealing with erosion and sediment control in that and trying to keep the waters clean are they
accomplishing that by either one of these if there are some things that they do on the site itself
that cause them to collect the water.
Morgan Butler, with the Southern Environmental Law Center, thanked the Commission for the
chance to speak tonight. He thinks the Commission knows that SELC supports the County's
long standing policy of guiding development to our development areas while ensuring that the
development respects the important natural resources located there. These proposed changes
seek to further both ends of that project by changing how they regulate critical slopes through
development areas. He made the following comments.
- Rather than treating all slopes the same as the current ordinance does the idea is to
ratchet down the protection for the less valuable slopes making those easier to develop
and to ratchet up the protection for the more valuable slopes making those harder to
develop. This concept makes sense. But, unfortunately the balance this draft ordinance
strikes seems out of whack. Compared to the current critical slopes ordinance it
appears that both groups of slopes, Managed and Preserved, would actually be easier to
disturb. As he reads it they can do more things by right on a protected slope under this
proposed ordinance than by right on any critical slope under the current ordinance.
- There is one example that stands out. Under the current ordinance in nearly every case
in order for a use to be exempted from the critical slopes provisions the applicant has to
demonstrate that there is no other reasonable location for that use on the parcel. Yet in
the proposed ordinance looking at the list of uses that would be allowed by right on
preserved slopes most of them such as trails, accessory uses and structures and
distribution facilities are allowed regardless of whether there is another reasonable
location for them on the parcel. Along the same lines the new ordinance would allow
roads and other public facilities to be built across Preserved slopes in five different
situations. Then for those five different situations it is showing as not required that there
be another reasonable location for the disturbance. Please keep in mind that they are
talking about Preserved slopes or those slopes that are supposed to get the strongest
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protection. To address this issue, they recommend that at least these by right
categories be strengthen to require it showing that no reasonable alternative location for
the use exists - the trails, the accessory uses and structures, the distribution facilities
and most if not all of the five public facilities categories.
They have the same recommendation regarding the uses that would be allowed on
Preserved slopes by special use permit. They recommend that those uses not be
allowed on Preserved slopes unless a special use permitting process requires the
showing that there is no other reasonable location for those uses on the parcel.
Finally, he would like to raise a quick concern about the by right use g, legislative zoning
actions. They are concerned that a number of rezonings may have been approved over
the years in which it was understood by the public and the Board of Supervisors that the
applicant would still need to come in at a future date to get a critical slopes waiver if they
proposed to disturb critical slopes. They would be going too far to now give all
previously approved rezonings blanket permission to disturb critical slopes unless the
Board very clearly and explicitly demonstrated that intent when they approved the
rezoning. They think it is important to make absolutely certain that the language in this
provision would not open that loophole.
Mr. Butler reiterated they support the goals behind this effort. However, it is just they are
concerned that the uses allowed on Preserved slopes in this draft are too expansive.
They believe the by right uses on Preserved slopes in particular need to be tightened up
if this ordinance is to strike the reasonable balance that is needed here.
There being no further public comment, Mr. Morris closed the public hearing to bring the matter
back to the Planning Commission for discussion and recommendation.
Mr. Loach asked staff to respond to Mr. Butler's suggestion on the Preserved slopes.
Mr. Fritz replied the trails and accessory uses are new uses on critical slopes. The reason they
added those is they have had a few instances where expansion of an existing use or an
accessory use was taken to the Planning Commission and they were all approved. Frequently
staff sees trails cross over critical slopes. He was not aware of any case that required a waiver
or special exception. Those were also added to make sure they were clearly permitted. He
noted the roads that can be built on slopes are actually decreased since it only now allows
public whereas previously it also allowed private roads to go in. So that is actually a decrease
in the things that can be done. In the legislative zoning actions staff added that because it was
one of the things that came out of the various work sessions and Roundtables as something
that people were interested in. They have seen a number of cases where projects have had
critical slopes being disturbed and they have come back for critical slope waivers to allow it. He
was not aware of any cases where a critical slopes waiver was not approved at the time of the
rezoning and ultimately that critical slopes waiver was denied. There are a number of cases
where it was approved. In the staff report it was noted this was shown and discussed at the
rezoning. That is one of the favorable factors of granting the waiver. That is an expansion of
uses permitted on steep slopes. However, it was something that came out of the Roundtables
and other meetings and why it was added.
Mr. Loach asked if he would disagree with Mr. Butler that essentially in some respects that
under the new language there is less protection.
Mr. Fritz replied that he would not disagree with him. In some respects under the proposed
ordinance you can do more things on some steep slopes by right than by right now. However,
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there are other things they can't do by right or have to get a special use permit for, which is a
higher bar than a special exception, or they simply can't do it all. They can't ask for a special
exception like someone can right now. A way to do something that is not a permitted use on
Preserved slopes is to either rezone the property or request a variance. However, in some
cases it is somewhat easier, but in most cases staff thinks that it is not because it actually more
preserving.
Mr. Kamptner recalled the effect of the state legislation in the Town of Occoquan case in that it
severely limits how they can regulate critical slopes for residential buildings. These regulations
by establishing performance standards eliminate the need for some kind of discretionary
approval that the state statutes no longer allow. So that is part of the balancing act they are
doing in these draft regulations.
Mr. Fritz pointed out the accessory uses are limited only to single-family dwellings, attached and
detached dwellings, and not commercial or industrial.
Mr. Lafferty commended staff for getting all this information together and putting it down on
paper.
Mr. Dotson said in picking up on Mr. Loach's question and Mr. Butler's comment, again as he
saw this list of things that were permitted in protected areas he kept thinking these were sort of
public projects and not being held to the same standards that private projects would be. He
asked if there is some way of saying they should try to avoid this if there are alternative
locations available. This is sort of carving out and giving a privileged position to public projects.
Mr. Fritz replied that staff did not put anything like that in there since staff sees that not only for
1%W ourselves but the Albemarle County Service Authority and others as one of our duties whenever
we are doing a project. They are supposed to be considering those things already and not
forwarding that proposal unless they have looked at the other viable options. Staff already saw
that as something they are inherently doing already and did not need to write it into the
ordinance. They have an obligation as public servants to be looking at all of those things in the
Comp Plan with sound planning and engineering practices. That is why they did not include it.
Mr. Dotson said if that is the case, then no harm is done by writing that in.
Mr. Fritz agreed that no harm is done to say something that in public projects or in locating
public facilities. Staff could put that into the intent of the ordinance in the very beginning.
Mr. Dotson said it seems like something that would be useful to have in there.
Mr. Kamptner asked if it would be practical to change the "or" before Roman numeral V to "and",
or, does that limit the ability to provide. The overarching use class here is that there are public
facilities necessary to allow the use of the lot. So in and of it the public facilities have to be
determined to be essential. He asked if the "and" would tighten that up to a point. He
suggested putting in "and" right before Roman numeral V so that these five things are all
requirements rather than just any one of them.
Mr. Fritz said he would want to take a look at that. He understands where they are going, but
did not want to do it on the fly. He understands what he is saying and it does not take anything
away to add it.
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Mr. Dotson noted again he was trying to clarify the flexibility dimension. On page 9 it is talking
about amending district boundaries. It says that if they provide the data they can take a
designated area out of the overlay. On page 11 when they are talking about fees it also talks
about changing the slopes designation from Preserved to Managed. He asked would that also
need to be mentioned under amending the district. He did not know if it was amending the
boundaries or not, but it is reclassifying property from Preserved to Managed.
Mr. Fritz said he would let Mr. Kamptner comment on the nuance of amending a designation
within the district. They knew there might be cases where someone is not in critical slopes,
which they talked about before. However, there also may be cases where someone wants to
say yes it is a steep slope, but it should be moved from one category to the other.
Mr. Dotson noted they have a fee for it, but they don't have a provision for it.
Mr. Fritz replied the intent was that it was covered by that. However, he would have to rely on
Mr. Kamptner.
Mr. Kamptner said they may need to backtrack and clean up Section 30.7.6 to make sure. They
will link those two sections together so that they are consistent with one another.
Mr. Randolph asked Mr. Fritz regarding Mr. Butler's second point if there is a way to ensure that
the new slope standards would not be retroactive by adding some clarification. He knows that is
ultimately a decision of the Board of Supervisors. He did not think the intent here is to allow
anyone to use this new status of Managed versus Preserved slopes to work around what
previously was expected by the Community Development Department to satisfy an approval
process to be followed. He thinks that there needs to be some way of ensuring this is not
retroactive, applies to all future applications from the time of acceptance, and does not apply to
anything that precedes it.
Mr. Fritz replied that one of the things they also had a conversation about is if they had a
planned development that was coming in they have the choice of coming in and having their site
plan or subdivision plat processed under either the ordinance in effect at the time of the
establishment of the planned development, which would allow them to go through the waiver
process for critical slopes, or the ordinance in effect at the time of the filing of the site plan or
subdivision. So that is really the saving answer that he is looking for there.
Mr. Kamptner noted the other thing is they can further narrow the effect of this because if it was
a legislative zoning action that was dealing with residential buildings, then they were going to be
by right anyway. Therefore, they have to allow them. They are really now just focusing on non-
residential building or commercial and industrial or mixed.
Mr. Randolph said in terms of Ms. Joseph's remarks is there some way of clarifying that the
slopes policy is not applicable to previously approved storm water management structures or
devices.
Mr. Fritz noted that in some cases it is. However, on the particular property she is talking about
her concern is that the stream and ponds may represent some problem in development in the
future. The action the Board will be taking has no impact on that. That is an underlying data
layer that has nothing to do with the steep slopes ordinance. If the new topo obtained from the
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state shows those things as going away, they will go away. That is a base data layer that is
different and apart from the steep slopes ordinance. There is no connection there just like the
` property lines have no connection to the steep slopes ordinance.
Mr. Dotson questioned if it is needed.
Mr. Fritz replied he could have turned that layer off on these maps, but it provides a convenient
point of reference in most cases so they can find properties and so forth. They may remember
that the initial maps staff brought to the Commission actually had the WPO shown on them.
The only reason they turned that layer on was to try to emphasize how the steep slopes were
related to those stream valleys and buffer. But, it was completely separate and apart from the
WPO. There is no direct relationship between the two. So obviously when staff brought the
Commission the final maps they turned that WPO layer off because they had already talked
about it is no longer relevant. They left the water features on in this case because it provides a
convenient point of reference when one is looking for a particular property. In most cases he
was on the left or right side of the stream. If the stream is not shown on the map, it is hard to
find the property. However, it could very well go away in the next round of mapping.
Mr. Randolph asked if the Commission might find out from Ms. Joseph whether that satisfies her
concern.
Mr. Morris invited Ms. Joseph to address the question.
Ms. Joseph replied it did not really address her concern. She did not know what the next round
is going to show. They saw from the photographs that the property was flat. There is no stream
showing where this stream goes down through. It is just confusing, particularly if the property
sells. It is confusing if a development comes in because this is Light Industrial property.
Hopefully, at some point in time some development will come in here. She did not know if staff
would see the stream on the map and say there needs to be a 100' buffer on either side of this
stream.
Mr. Fritz noted that could happen whether the stream is shown on this map or not and whether
the layer was turned on or not. If a field visit is done and determined that there is a stream there
even though there is none shown on the map there is a WPO. If a field visit is done and there is
a stream marked on the map, but there is no stream there, there is no WPO. That happens
today. He can work with our GIS people to see if they can modify the map. He did not know
that they can separate it because they don't have any new topo to work with to show what really
is there. But, again he would point out it is the base map and not the map they are adopting for
purposes of enforcing the steep slopes ordinance. He would also point out if they were not
doing this and they were talking about a critical slopes request, those areas would be showing
as shaded with a WPO on them. That is the map that they would be showing them right now
with a stream and a pond.
Ms. Joseph noted that it does not exist.
Mr. Fritz pointed out they would go through that analysis just like they will go through it when
they bring the project in with their site plan. So nothing has changed on this property.
Mr. Kamptner said in looking at this and not focusing on this parcel, they are showing a stream
here and noting that it may trigger the stream buffer requirements under the Water Protection
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Ordinance. But, any other body of water now may trigger the Flood Hazard Overlay District and
the 100-year flood plan limits. As the Commission recalls they adopted a dam break inundation
zone set of regulations. They now have those areas mapped. Therefore, it might make sense
to keep each of those discreet from one another to eliminate errors. He realized that the water
ways do provide points of reference on maps, but there are all these different overlays and
requirements that apply. He suggested that maybe having some of these shown here is
creating confusion.
Mr. Fritz said if they want staff to turn off the stream layers when they take it to the Board of
Supervisors they can do that. It is just a layer they can turn off. They can't turn it off for
portions. It is an all on or all off option.
Mr. Cilimberg said he thinks the reality is whether they turn it off or keep it on it still exists in the
mapping of the County.
Mr. Kamptner suggested just adding a note to the maps that just reflects it.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out in reality there are probably other places in the County that things are
being shown on the maps that may not exist. It is just the way it is through the years of the
aerials and getting the mapping. They hope the next time they get an aerial they will get the
mapping to be more accurate. So the zoning change here is to show the slopes and not to
incorporate the natural features, which exist as part of the base map.
Ms. Monteith asked if the property owner requests a field verification the County will go out and
do that.
Mr. Fritz replied that for field verification for the purposes of enforcing the WPO Ordinance: yes,
they would do that.
Ms. Monteith asked if something comes up on the map that is not there that indicates that
something has to be planned differently, then how do you resolve that issue.
Mr. Fritz replied frankly he did not know what our GIS people do when somebody comes along
and says no that road or stream is not here and is actually over here. He has no idea of how
they deal with that.
Ms. Firehock said there were other errors on County maps that need correcting, but they won't
do that tonight. Her question was under permitted uses on page 7 where it talks about
accessory uses of any kind. There are accessory uses that pertain to existing single-family
dwelling units or existing lot of record. However, she cannot find the definition of an accessory
use except that it pertains to the dwelling. She is concerned about the size. It can be a tool
shed that could be 1,000 square feet. She asked what the limitation is on that, if any.
Mr. Fritz replied there is not one. That was actually discussed at length at the Board of
Supervisors work session about whether or not to add a maximum area. They did not receive
direction to do that and staff did not go forward with that. Therefore, staff was carrying forward
the results of that work session. However, it was discussed whether it should be limited to X
number of square feet or they could not disturb more than X number of square feet of the
Managed or Preserved slopes. Both those options were discussed and they received no
direction to do that. Therefore, staff did not do it. However, the zoning administrator answers
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the question about what an accessory use is all the time. But, it is normal and customarily
accessory.
Mr. Kamptner pointed out the term accessory is defined in the zoning ordinance. The two key
concepts are that the accessory use has to be subordinate and customarily incidental to the
primary use. So it is a factually intensive determination on anything that is out on the fringes.
However, there is no requirement that the accessory use take up less area than the primary
use. For example, all the gardening activities that may take place on a one acre lot are going to
be accessory to the primary residential use. But, the area consumed is more. The same would
be with a horse stable or a barn.
Ms. Firehock agreed noting she was familiar with that. She was just concerned that when they
are talking about Preserved slopes that they may indeed have a concern about the size of the
intense scale of that accessory use. She apologized that she was the new kid on the block
because she was not at any of these work sessions. She was not prepared to make a motion
tonight because she has not had the time to digest this. However, she thinks that is something
that needs to be revisited.
Mr. Morris asked if anyone would like to make a recommendation that this go forward
Mr. Dotson asked if one action could be taken on the ZMA, STA and ZTA.
Mr. Kamptner replied there needs to be three separate actions if the Commission is going to
make a recommendation to send on to the Board tonight. If there is an inclination to ask staff to
bring it back addressing some of the concerns that have been expressed here, then that could
be addressed in a single motion.
Mr. Morris asked if staff had a recommended motion
Mr. Fritz said it would be a motion to recommend approval of the ZTA, STA and ZMA
individually.
Mr. Morris pointed out the staff report indicates staff recommends the Planning Commission
support the zoning text amendment, zoning map amendment, and the subdivision text
amendment and recommends approval to the Board of Supervisors.
Mr. Dotson seconded the motion.
Mr. Morris noted that was his motion.
Mr. Lafferty asked if each item needed to be taken separately, and Mr. Kamptner replied yes
that each item should have a separate motion.
Mr. Loach asked if they wanted a motion to approve the ZTA-2012-12 with the conditions.
Mr. Kamptner replied yes with the direction to staff that all of the issues that have been
discussed the Commission would like to see addressed should be included.
Motion on ZTA-2012-12
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Motion: Mr. Loach moved and Mr. Lafferty seconded to recommend approval of ZTA-2012-12
Steep Slopes to include all the changes directed to staff from the Planning Commission.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0.
Motion on ZMA-2014-1
Motion: Mr. Loach moved and Mr. Lafferty seconded to recommend approval of ZMA-2014-1
Steep Slopes with the same provisos as the previous motion to include all the changes directed
to staff from the Planning Commission.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0.
Motion on STA-2014-1
Motion: Mr. Loach moved and Mr. Randolph seconded to recommend approval of STA-2014-1
Steep Slopes with the same provisos as the previous motions to include all the changes
directed to staff from the Planning Commission.
The motion passed by a vote of 6:0.
Mr. Morris noted that ZTA-2012-12, ZMA-2014-1 and STA-2014-1 would be forwarded to the
Board of Supervisors with a recommendation for approval to a date to be determined.
Old Business
Mr. Morris asked if there was any old business. There being none, the meeting proceeded.
New Business
Mr. Morris asked if there was any new business.
• Roundtable to be held on Thursday, January 30, 2014 at 4:00 p.m. in Room 241 to
review upcoming changes to Albemarle County's floodplain regulations.
• Committee Reports
o Ms. Monteith reported the MPO met with the meeting focus on introducing the
new members of the Board of Supervisors and going over the different actions
they have been working on.
o Mr. Lafferty reported PACTECH met with the meeting focus on going over the in
synch project for traffic lights going up 29 North.
o Mr. Lafferty noted CTAC would meet next week to go over the fiscal constraint
projects for the Long Range Transportation Plan.
o Mr. Cilimberg asked other Commissioners to be prepared to report on
committees at their meeting on the first Tuesday of the month.
• Version of Comp Plan draft going to Board of Supervisors available on line or by
request.
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• Mr. Dotson made three recommendations regarding project descriptions and
information.
o Can staff flip the legal description so people see the actual proposal? (Mr.
Kamptner responded there is an additional advertising requirement for zoning
map amendments which will require by statute to include the general description
of the usage and the Comp Plan's density range. It is required for the Board
notice for the public hearing and is just included for the Planning Commission
public hearing as well.)
o In application numbers eliminate the zeros and add dashes so the motion is
easier to make. It would also be helpful in the tax map/parcel to eliminate the
zeros.
o Neighborhood Model — Can staff create examples from our communities
visualizing the density? It would be helpful especially for the public to be able to
visualize what is coming.
There being no further new business, the meeting proceeded.
Adjournment
With no further items, the meeting adjourned at 9:27 p.m. to the Tuesday, February 4, 2014
Albemarle County Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 p.m., Auditorium, Second Floor,
County Office Building, 401 McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
V. Wayne Cilimberg,
(Recorded and transcribed by Sharon C. Taylor, Clerk to Planh crfimission & Planning
Boards)
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