HomeMy WebLinkAbout05 22 84 PC MinutesMay 22, 1984
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday,
May 22, 1984, Meeting Room 7, County Office Building, Charlottesville,
Virginia. Those members present were: Mr. David Bowerman, Chairman; Mr.
Richard Cogan, Vice Chairman; Mr. Tim Michel; Mr. Richard Gould; and Mr. Harry
Wilkerson. Other officials present were: Mr. Ronald Keeler, Chief of Planning;
Ms. Mary Joy Scala, Planner; Ms. Amelia McCulley, Planner; Mr. Fred Payne,
Deputy County Attorney; and Mr. Maynard Elrod, County Engineer. Absent:
Commissioners Skove and Diehl.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and established that a
quorum was present.
ZMA-84-8 Hillcrest (Hurt Investment Company) - Request to rezone 176.07 acres
from R-1 Residential to PUD, Tax Map 91, Parcel 2, Scottsville District.
Located east of Rt. 742 (Avon Street Extended) and west of Rt. 20 South.
Mr. Keeler gave the staff report and.pointed out that the main discussion
would center on transportation issues. He noted that the road issue would
arise whether or not the property were rezoned.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Roy Parks. He stated the.developer felt
Alternative 3 was the only viable one, i.e, a subdivision road designed for
subdivision traffic only. He stated the dispute about the pavement design was
not really a dispute but rather a question of how many vehicles would be using
the road per day. He made further comments about various aspects of the
road.
Mr. Dan Roosevelt, repimealig the Highway Department, addressed the Commission.
He stated that the only issue raised by his department was if the Comprehensive
Plan is going to be followed, then the road should be designed for what it
is going to carry, i.e. through traffic from Rt. 20 to Fifth Street. He
felt the only issue presently was whether or not to amend the Comprehensive
Plan.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Bowerman summarized that an impasse had been reached on the road issue
because the Highway Department is looking for certain design standards
because the road is in the Comprehensive Plan, and those standards may or
may not be possible on this site because of slope considerations, and the
applicant "wants to do something else."
Mr. Gould asked if any of the alternatives explained in the staff report
could create long-term problems. Mr. Keeler responded and discussed
the impact of industrial traffic on the different alternatives.
Referring to the following statement in the staff report, Mr. Wilkerson
asked if any of the three alternatives discussed would serve the same
purpose:
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"As currently proposed, the Route 20 South -Route 74L-Kout.e b31 link.road
in the Comprehensive Plan would serve three functions: (1) To provide
for east -west traffic movement in Neighborhood Four; (2) To maintain the
functional integrity of I-64 as an interstate by providing an alternate
east -west route for local traffic; and (3) To provide a more direct access
to I-64 for industrial uses on Route 742 than current routes through
City streets."
Mr. Keeler indicated the proposals needed to analyzed more completely before
raking that determination.
Mr. Michel asked)ie had understood that the applicant would not object to a
cul-de-sac, with no.thru road. Mr. Parks responded affirmatively. He
added that the applicant would be happy to leave a pedestrian right -of --way,
50 feet wide, "in case somebody changed their mind."
Mr. Bowerman felt it should be determined if the road proposed in the Comprehensive
Plan was feasible in that location. He added that he would "be hesitant to
require a road for this development that would achieve that if at the other
end of that road it can't be had." He questioned whether the issue had been
analyzed to allow,that judgment to be made.
Mr. Cogan stated it needed to be determined how well the three alternatives
suggested accomplish the three desired functions (as stated above). He felt
more information was necessary.
Mr. Keeler asked if the Commission could "prioritize" the three functions, i.e.
determine which is the most important..
Mr. Michel stated he did not feel the Rt. 20/631 link was as important as
the Rt. 631/742 line. He also felt it would be helpful to more clearly
define "Neighborhood Four."
It was finally decided this issue would be discussed again at the June 12
work. session. No action was taken.
Mr. Roosevelt commented that he felt the top priority should be to provide
direct access to I64 from the industrial uses along Rt. 742. He added
that he felt the interstate system would provide for east -west traffic
movement in Neighborhood Four. Mr. Bowerman pointed out that to provide
industrial access as described by Mr. Roosevelt would result in industrial
traffic travelling through residential neighborhoods.
Biltmore Arms Amended Site Plan and Request to amend Previous Conditions
of Approval - Located north side of Route 631 (Rio Road), east of Rt. 2.9N.
Proposal to locate 48 multi- amily condominiu::is for retired persons and
62 parking spaces on 35.67 acres. Tax Map 61, Parcel 124E, Charlottesville
District, zoned R-15 Residential and C-1 Commercial.
Ms. Scala gave the staff report. The report explained that the applicant
was requesting two major changes in the site plan: (1) a temporary
emergency access road to serve the site from the adjacent property and (2) a
rural section on the private road rather than an urban section with curb and
gutter. Staff recommended approval of the amended site plan subject to
conditions.
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In response to Mr. Michels question, Ms. Scala explained road requirements
further. She stated that the part of the private road which the
applicant would be required to build would be "just to the end of his
property." Mr. Payne added that if phased construction was going to be
allowed, then the road must be a private one. He stated further that
the standards to which it must be built would be the same, because
of the number of units, for either a private or a state road. Mr.
Michel felt it was desirable to clarify the issue of how much more
development should be allowed on this private road before it must be brought
up to state standards.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Ray Gaines. He stated that the only
issue with the road was one of cost. He also stated that the applicant
"took issue" with new condition 1(m) which required 1/2" bituminous concrete
for the parking area. He asked that "surface treatment" be allowed.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Elrod, the County Engineer, commented on the issue of concrete vs.
surface treatment but his comments were unaudible.
Mr. Bowerman stated he had no problems with the proposal. He asked if the
Commission wished to "tie down when the road would become a state road."
He asked Ms. Scala to comment. Ms. Scala suggested certain language which
was amended by Mr. Payne. It was finally decided the following would
be added at the cond of condition (3):
0 Commission reserves the right to require inclusion of the road for
its full .length in the secondary highway system in any future
phase of development.
Mr. Michel moved that the Biltmore Arms Amended Site Plan and request to
amend previous conditions of approval be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. A building permit will not be issued until the following conditions have
been met:
a. Improvements on Rt. 631 and design standards of the proposed State road
to be in accordance with Virginia Department of. Highways & Transportation
requirements and recommendations including curb and gutter and storm
sewer;
b. County Engineer approval of private road plans from end of proposed
State road to end of cul-de-sac. Rural section is permitted based on
off-street parking and a limit of six (6) entrances as shown on the
site plan;
c. Sidewalk to be included on one side of proposed State and private road
plans from Rt. 631 to end of private road cul-de-sac;
d. Entrance to Biltmore Arms for private road to be designed to Virginia
Department of Highways & Transportation;
e. County Engineer approval of temporary emergency access road on
adjacent property to be replaced with permanent connection to the
adjacent site when that property develops;
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f. County Engineer approval of drainage and stormwater detention plans
and computations, including design of channel between 36" pipe and
detention basin;
g. Issuance of erosion control permit;
h. County Attorney approval of maintenance agreement for private road and
stormwater detention facilities;
i. Delete (water and sewer plans have been approved);
j. The following improvements shall be bonded for construction:
--Proposed State road and improvements on Rt. 631
--Proposed private road from end of proposed State road to end of
subject property to design required by this development, for
future acceptance by Virginia Department of Highways & Transportation
--Stormwater detention facilities;
k. Virginia Department of Highways & Transportation approval of two proposed
curb cuts on proposed State road for putt -putt facility;
1. Recordation of access easement for temporary emergency access road
and sidewalks;
m. Parking areas to be paved with 1Y" bituminous concrete.
2. A certificate of occupancy will. -not be issued until the following conditions
have been met:
a. Fire Officer approval of hydrant locations and fireflow;
b. Delete;
c. Staff.approval of condominium documents.
3. As future development occurs, future developers shall extend the private
road, and construct it for future acceptance by Virginia Department of
Highways and Transportation. The Planning Commission reserves the right
to require the inclusion of the road for its full length into the State
secondary highway system at any future phase of development.
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
Pantops (Riverbend Drive) Final Plat.- Located in southeast corner of U.S.
Rt. 250E.and State Rt. 20NN at Riverbend Drive. Proposal to delete restriction:
"Access will be limited to Riverbend Drive." Tax Map 78, Parcel 17F2, zoned
Highway Commercial Rivanna District.
GIs. Scala gave the staff report.
The Chairman invited applicant comment.
The applicant was represented by �1r. Herbert Beskins. He explained the appli-
cant's request, including the present situation and the implications of staff's
suggestion. He stressed that this is the "'only individually owned lot that
does not have access to traffic in both directions." He felt that "taking off
the restriction and leavingit to the site plan process is the most intelligent
way to deal with the problem." He felt it made more sense to allow left turn
movements that are already taking place than to create a totally new problem at
the intersection of Riverbend and State Farm Blvd.
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The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. Don Wagner, representing Riverbend Limited Partnership, addressed the Commission.
He stated his property was in a similar situation but that he had not asked
for access because he had been led to believe it would be useless to do so.
He had originally thought the "ring road" would allow for reasonable access
to the property. He stated he supported this applicant's (Jefferson Savings
and Loan) efforts to create access to this property.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Dan. Roosevelt, representing the Highway Department, confirmed that a fast
food use was probably the highest use possible for this size parcel in relation
to traffic generation. He explained that the Highway Department's position
on this parcel has been directed at transportation while the owner's interest
is in making the property more attractive to a developer. He stated
the Highway Department has been attempting to work with the owner and realizes,
"however reluctantly," that if the property is zoned commercial, "you've got
to give them a little better access than a U-turn." He confirmed that this
was more acceptable than a cut through the median on Riverbend Drive. He
also confirmed that he felt access problems for this property were "unique to
those between here and the city limits line."
Commissioners Gould and Wilkerson indicated they favored "no egress."
Mr. Bowerman stated it "seemed a reasonable use of the property to allow
ingress and then use Pantops to get out."
There followed a brief discussion related to possible traffic patterns.
Mr. Bowerman stated he felt the site was unique because of the median. He
added: "I think that allowing ingress to the site on eastbound traffic on
Rt. 250 is reasonable, as long as it's not a fast food use." Mr. Cogan
agreed. Mr. Bowerman added that "I think what we'd lose by allowing a
left turn lane off 250 would be too great."
Mr. Keeler again explained staff's position. He stated that staff could support
a right -turn "in" because that would improve access to the property, but a
right -turn "out" would not improve access. He continued that staff felt
maintaining Riverbend as the right -turn out from the property was safer
because it takes the vehicle to a controlled intersection and eliminates one
more point of conflict on Rt. 250.
Mr. Bowerman refreshed the Commission's memory and stated that the request
was to delete the restriction which limited access to Riverbend Drive.
He stated there seemed to be a consensus to remove at least part of that
restriction.
Mr. Cogan moved that the Riverbend Drive Final Plat restriction on access
be changed to read:
Access to be limited to Riverbend Drive except that right turn ingress
will be permitted at the easternmost end along Rt. 250.
Mr. Gould seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
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:pis. Scala introduced a newly hired planner, tics. Amelia McCulley.
Village Offices - Phase I and II Amended Site Plan - Located on the east side of
Berkmar Drive, mile south of its intersection with State Rt. 631 (Rio.Road).
Proposal to revise Phases I and II of Village Offices Site Plan to remove the
stormwater detention pond and twelve (12) parking spaces and to include one
additional building of 5,400 square feet and twenty-two (22) parking spaces.
Tax Map 61U-2-5 and 61U-3-1, zoned Highway Commercial, Charlottesville District.
Ms. McCulley gave the staff report. Staff recommended approval subject to
conditions. The report noted that "The conditions of approval outlined herein
are to supersede the conditions not yet met for Village Offices Phase II.
It was determined the applicant was not present at the meeting. Mr. Bowerman
suggested that deferral was in order, though public comment would be taken.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Ms. Joan Graves addressed. the Commission and made comments about the detention
basin. Most of her comments were inaudible.
There being no further comment, the matter was placed before the Commission.
There followed a brief discussion about the status of the detention plans
for this area. :sir. Elrod, the County Engineer, stated he hoped the project
would begin "next year."
It was determined the item would be deferred.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that Village Offices - Phase I and II Amended Site Plan
be deferred to June 26, 1984.
Mr. Michel seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
Albemarle Baptist _association - Request to fill property prior to site plan
approval, Tax Map 61, Parcel 6.
Mr. Keeler gave the staff report. (No written report was used..) He explained
that the applicant has the opportunity to get fill dirt from a highway project
but the site plan is not scheduled for review until June. He.presented a copy
of the site plan which had been submitted and was currently going through
the site plan process. He stated staff had no problems with the request but
he wanted to make the applicant aware of some issues: (1) Two drainfield
locations will be required and the Health Department will not permit drain -
fields in fill, though they can be located beneath the fill; (2) Entire
developed area of the site will be filled to raise to the level of Hydraulic
Road and to provide bi-level access. This will result in a steep slope at
the rear adjacent to parking area which may require a retaining wall. Mr. Keeler
noted that the County Engineer has recommended that the applicant "stockpile"
the dirt until grading and drainage plans have been approved.
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It was decided the Commission had no objection to the fill being stockpiled.
Mr. Keeler confirmed the applicant needed approval from the Commission to
allow for the stockpiling.' Mr. Elrod pointed out that they needed approval
to clear the trees to create an area for the stockpiling.
Mr. Cogan moved that the Albemarle Baptist Association's request to fill
prior to site plan approval be allowed as follows:
"stockpiling of fill dirt to be permitted with a minimal removal of
of trees, said removal of trees to be at the discretion of the County
Engineer."
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
Mr. Bowerman confirmed that the motion included the requirement for Watershed
Management Official review.
There followed a discussion of the joint meeting with the Board of Supervisors
held May 16, 1984.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:21 p.m.
Recorded by: Janice Wills
Transcribed by: Deloris Sessoms, 12-88