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APRIL 12, 1994
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The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on
Tuesday, April 12, 1994, Room 7, County Office Building,
Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present were: Ms. Babs
Huckle, Chair; Mr. Tom Blue, Vice Chair; Mr. Bill Nitchmann; Ms.
Katherine Imhoff; Mr. Bruce Dotson; Mr. Tom Jenkins; and Ms.
Monica Vaughan. Other officials present were: Mr. V. Wayne
Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development; Mr.
Bill Fritz, Senior Planner; Ms. Mary Joy Scala, Senior Planner;
and Mr. Larry Davis, County Attorney.
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. and a quorum was
established. The minutes of March 29, 1994 were unanimously
approved as amended.
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The Commission presented Certificates of Appreciation to past
commissioners Phil Grimm and Walter Johnson.
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Mr. Cilimberg briefly summarized actions taken at the April 6th
Board of Supervisors Meeting. Mr. Blue asked why the McRavens
(applicants in the outdoor theater project) have been asked to
appear before the Board to "answer questions." Mr. Cilimberg did
not know the answer to this question, nor did he know what
questions would be asked of the McRavens.
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Addition to Eastham Agricultural/Forestal District - The proposed
addition consists of 178.090 acres located between Rt. 610 and
Rt. 612 off Rt. 20 North, and is described as Tax Map 63, parcel
28.
Ms. Scala presented the staff report. She explained that the
zoning violation which had delayed the consideration of this
parcel with the request for the renewal of the entire district
(Fall 1993) has now been corrected. Staff was recommending
approval of the request.
Ms. Huckle asked questions about parcel 28A (2 acres). Ms. Scala
explained that the two acres is in the center of the property and
it is not uncommon for there to be a farmhouse, or another
structure, on a smaller parcel in the middle of a farm. These
are included, when possible, to prevent a "Swiss cheese effect"
in the district. Ms. Huckle asked if the entire two acres, or
just 1 acre and the house, would be taxed at the normal rate.
Ms. Scale was of the belief that the entire 2 acres would be
excluded from the land use tax benefit because it has been
subdivided. Mr. Blue had a different understanding, i.e. that
once the parcel gets back into the ag/forestal district, only 1 j
acre for the house will be deducted for the assessment of the I
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fair market value. Ms. Scala felt that it depended on the size
of the yard area, though she was not certain her understanding
was correct.
It was determined the applicant was not present at the hearing.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Ms. Huckle asked for an explanation as to how the violation had
been resolved. Ms. Scala explained that Mr. Bigelow had met with
county staff who had recommended that he seek advice from a
professional. He had then decided to do a family division. A
plat had been completed by a surveyor which was reviewed by
staff. A question regarding joint use of septic systems and
wells was resolved through the Zoning office. The plat was then
recorded, and an affidavit stating to which family member the lot
would go was placed in the file. It also had to be determined
that "at least 3 of the other dwellings would be able to be
subdivided on 21 acres --they wouldn't be so close to another
house that they couldn't be subdivided in the future." (This was
confirmed by a County planner.) In terms of development rights,
Ms. Scala estimated "he would have the ability, I think, to do a
couple of more dwellings." Ms. Huckle asked: "But he can't do
any more dwellings and be in the ag/forestal district?" Ms.
Scala responded: "If he subdivides them he could, (if he does
not use up more than his 5 development rights and then his 21-
acre parcels) but he could not have any more rental units. But
he could, possibly, for instance, cut off a 21-acre parcel and
build a house on it. ... Anybody in any ag-forestal district can
subdivide the entire property into 21-acre parcels."
Mr. Blue was of the belief that ag-forestal districts were set up
for the specific purpose of essentially preventing intensive
development of the agricultural area. He felt it has been taken
advantage of in this case, as it oftentimes is. He felt this
could ultimately result in "the people who are honestly trying to
do that may be penalized if there is a political backlash" which
removes the possibility of having these. He expressed surprise
that the minutes of the Ag/Forestal Committee had indicated they
did not feel this was much of a violation. (Ms. Huckle had been
present at that meeting and stated she felt they were not
concerned about the fact that they were rental units, but rather
about the zoning violation.)
Mr. Nitchmann asked: "Did you say there are 3 units there which
are not subdivided?" Ms. Scala responded: "None of the other
units are subdivided; only the newest one is subdivided on a 2-
acre lot, but it was determined that it would be possible to
subdivide them on 21-acre lots in the future." Mr. Nitchmann
asked: "Why wouldn't we require that?" Ms. Scala responded:
"It's just not something we require."
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Ms. Imhoff addressed Mr. Nitchmann's question: "It certainly
doesn't serve the public purpose to force people to subdivide
before their time ... and what you're trying to figure out is how
many rights are left and how many 21-acre lots you could create
so you could meet the Ordinance. But you don't require people to
go out and configure their lots bizarrely."
Mr. Cilimberg added: "There are a fair number of cases in the
county, in and out of ag/forestal districts, where rural
properties have more than one unit and aren't subdivided, but
could be."
Mr. Blue felt the most serious issue had been the lack of a
building permit, because if they had gone through that process
"this would have been caught and there wouldn't have been any
problem with the A-F district."
It was determined no punitive measures had been taken as a result
of the building code violation. (Mr. Davis noted there is no
civil punishment available, though there is a criminal punishment
which could be applied.)
Ms. Imhoff noted that the Commission's thorough review of this
application has "put the public on notice that you do look
closely at A-F districts and people better be sure they are doing
it correctly."
MOTION: Ms. Imhoff moved that
Agricultural/Forestal District
Supervisors for approval.
Mr. Dotson seconded the motion.
Discussion:
the Addition to the Eastham
be recommended to the Board of
Mr. Nitchmann again expressed the opinion that he felt the
renewal of this district was premature because "it is only
approximately 2 miles from a growth area --Neighborhood 3--and
during the Comp Plan review it may be decided that the growth
area out Rt. 20 needs to be expanded because it seems like a
logical area to do so and if we approve this at this time it
restricts this property from any development for 7 to 8 years."
He concluded that he could not support this proposal.
Ms. Imhoff expressed the feeling that this is something which the
landowners volunteer to do and they should be supported in these
type of decisions. She concluded: "I really don't see it
standing in the way of a 20-year planning document."
Mr. Jenkins asked why this violation had not been caught. Mr.
Cilimberg felt it was a Zoning Department issue since building
permits are handled through that department. Ms. Scala explained
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that the property had been listed correctly in the real estate
records, i.e. "they had picked up the error and had written on
the record that he had picked up this new dwelling." The Real
Estate Office stated they notify the Building Inspections
Department when these situations occur, though there is not
always a violation involved. Ms. Scala "assumed" there was a
breakdown there.
Ms. Scala explained that this case had caused the following
changes in the review process for A-F districts: (1) Real
estate files will now be used to gather information on property
rather than computer records; and (2) The applications have been
changed and applicants are now asked to describe the actual use
of the property and to supply the exact number of dwelling units,
including rental units.
Mr. Blue felt the rental unit issue was "at odds" with the A-F
District, because he felt having rental units, i.e. a more
intensive use of the land, would not be in the best interests of
the A-F District. It was his understanding that the Committee
does not share this concern provided the other criteria are met.
Ms. Huckle felt this situation points out that there needs to be
a great deal of communication among the various County
departments.
Ms. Imhoff pointed out that the Committee had felt this was "the
exception to the rule."
The previously stated motion for approval passed (6:1) with
Commissioner Nitchmann casting the dissenting vote.
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SP-94-09 M}1. Carmel Church - Petition to construct an addition of
approximately 3 square feet on 2.0 acres zoned RA, Rural Areas
[10.2.2(35)]. Property, described as Tax Map 14, parcel (b) is
located on the west side of Route 810 about a mile north of
Mountfair in the White Hall Magisterial District. This site is
not located within a designated growth area (Rural Area 1).
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. Staff was recommending
approval subject to conditions. Regarding VDOT's recommendation
for a commercial entrance, the staff report noted: ..there are
no peculiar aspects to traffic generated by the church. The
differences in character between traffic generated by this church
and uses allowed by -right are not so significant as to warrant
upgrading the entrances." The report also explained that the
church would generate about 30 vehicle trips per week (exlcluding
annual homecoming), which is less than a single home. The report
also stated that adequate sight distance exists at both
entrances, thus safety is not an issue.
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The applicant was represented by Mr. Don Nobles. He explained
the expansion was to accommodate the church's annual homecoming
celebration.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
MOTION: Noting that there were no issues of concern with this
request, Ms. Imhoff moved that SP-94-09 for Mt. Carmel Church be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to
the following 2 conditions:
1. Church expansion limited to not more than 350 square feet.
2. Usage of the church to be limited to worship and related
services only. Use of the church for non -congregational
activities such as day care, youth groups, food services, and the
like shall warrant amendment of this special use permit.
Mr. Blue seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mr. Dotson asked if any other use of the addition, other than the
homecoming activity, would require amendment to the special
permit. Mr. Keeler explained no further approval would be
required provided the use is a congregational one.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
NOTE: The approval did NOT include the requirement for the
upgrading of the entrance.
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SP-94-05 Peter Goebel - Petition to establish a Home Occupation
Class B [1 .2. (3 )] for a tinsmith/coppersmith on 1.2 acres
zoned RA, Rural Areas. Property, described as Tax Map 54, Parcel
34 (part) is located on the west side of Rt. 691 approximately
300 feet north of Route 827 in the White Hall Magisterial
District. This site is not located within a designated growth
area (Rural Area 3).
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff was recommending
approval subject to one condition.
The applicant, Mr. Goebel, addressed the Commission. He
explained the nature of his work: "a one-man business done in
the style of 1760--a historical coppersmith/tinsmith." He stated
he has never received a complaint about the business. In answer
to Ms. Huckle's question, he explained that he uses lead-free
solder. In response to Mr. Dotson's question regarding electrical
power to the building, he explained that he currently runs an
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extension cord from the main house, but he plans to eventually
run a line underground.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Jenkins moved, seconded by Mr. Nitchmann, that SP-
94-05 for Peter Goebel be recommended to the Board of Supervisors
for approval subject to the following conditions:
I. Compliance with Section 5.2.2.1.
Mr. Fritz confirmed that the Commission's recommendation for
approval "is addressing the only issue" in relation to the
setback.
The motion passed unanimously.
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SP-94-08 Virginia Rowing - Petition to construct a boat house,
adjacent parking and relocate a boat dock for a boating athletic
facility on 5.584 acres zoned RA, Rural Areas [10.2.2(4)].
Property, described as Tax Map 45, parcels 6D and 6D2 is located
on the east side of Route 676 approximately 0.38 miles north of
the Route 676/Route 743 intersection in the Jack Jouett
Magisterial District. This site is not located within a
designated growth area (Rural Area 1).
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. The report concluded:
"Staff opinion is that there will be minimal adverse impact
caused by the new construction and that the benefits of the
proposed development are superior to maintaining the existing
condition of the site. ... staff is able to recommend approval
of this request subject to conditions."
Mr. Fritz pointed out that the use is currently operating on site
and can continue to do so, under the present conditions, even
without approval of this permit. He explained that it is a non-
conforming use and is before the Commission because of the change
which is proposed.
Ms. Imhoff asked if staff had received any comments from adjacent
owners. Mr. Fritz replied: "I have had no contact from any
member of the public on this request."
There was a brief discussion of the plans for sanitary
facilities. The applicant later explained that the restroom part
of the building will be heated.
Mr. Fritz confirmed that the runoff from the overflow parking
area will also be diverted to the pond.
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Ms. Huckle asked if the muddy, pot -holed roads will be re -
vegetated. Mr. Fritz explained that would be addressed by
condition No. 7. Ms. Huckle asked what type of vegetation was
planned for the rest of the area. Mr. Fritz responded: "I
believe it will be maintained in it's existing open condition."
Ms. Huckle asked how parking would handled for events such as
regattas. Mr. Fritz explained it will be similar to the County
fair, i.e. on the grass. Some grading is proposed to level the
parking area and staff will make sure that the grass which is
planted will be of a variety capable of withstanding traffic for
a few days at a time throughout the year.
Mr. Dotson asked if the berm would be of sufficient height so as
to prevent cars from moving closer to the water than the
designated overflow parking area. Mr. Fritz explained that
parking would be allowed only in those areas designated for
overflow parking on the plan.
Mr. Fritz explained that only the special permit is before the
Commission. Staff will still need to approve the site plan. No
items have been identified which will prevent administrative
review of the site plan.
In response to Mr. Dotson's question, Mr. Fritz confirmed that
this project will result in the site being pretty much built out,
i.e. because of limitations related to setback, etc., no further
expansion will be possible.
Ms. Huckle asked Mr. Jack Kelsey, representing the County
Engineering Department, if the small pond will be able to handle
the additional runoff which will result from the increased
impervious area. Mr. Kelsey stated that question will be
addressed during site plan review. He explained that it is
difficult to answer this question at this time because the
principal spillway is not functioning at all --it is "clogged up".
Ms. Huckle asked if the safety of the dam will be verified. Mr.
Jack Kelsy replied: "To a degree." He explained that the dam is
very old and was built before there were any requirements for dam
design. He explained that initially he is concerned about the
trees which are growing on the dam and those trees will have to
be removed. He felt this proposal is an opportunity for some
improvements to be made to the dam. Ms. Huckle felt the
reliability of the dam was important given the fact that if it
failed all the silt and sediment which is presently in the pond
would end up in the reservoir. Mr. Kelsey concluded: "Once we
have an idea of what that principal spillway is, we can get the
information necessary to get the calculations done to verify that
the pond has the proper storage capacity...." He stated he could
see no evidence that the dam has been overtopped during a storm.
He stated that the 10-year storm is the design storm for the
capacity of the principal spillway and the berms.
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The applicant was represented by Mr. Kevin Sauer, Coach of the
Virginia Rowing club. He explained the motivations for the
project were the need for additional storage, the desire for a
more aesthetically pleasing structure which will fit in with the
environment, and the need to improve the access road. He
explained that this is a club sport which receives no university
funding. This project will be funded by monies from a
benefactor. Mr. Sauer asked for "latitude" in terms of
reorienting the boathouse, if necessary, so as to make it best
suit the lay of the land. (Mr. Fritz explained that there would
be no problem with Mr. Sauer's request provided the siting of the
boathouse was "in general accord" with the sketch plan presented
by the applicant.)
Ms. Huckle expressed the hope that a good percentage of the pine
trees would be left undisturbed. Mr. Sauer estimated that a 10-
12 foot swath would remain.
Ms. Imhoff expressed the feeling that this will be an improvement
over the existing situation.
In reply to Mr. Blue's question about Health Department approval,
Mr. Sauer explained that the percolation test was successful, but
the Health Department will not actually approve the drainfield
site until after the building permit has been obtained. (Mr.
Fritz stated that the Health Department had not expressed any
undue concern about septic sites at site review.)
Ms. Huckle invited comment from Mr. David Hirschmann, the
County's Water Resources Manager. Mr. Hirschmann expressed the
feeling that the proposed plan is a "great improvement" over the
existing situation.
The Chair invited public comment.
Ms. Lisa Glass, an Earlysville resident, addressed the
Commission. She expressed support for the proposal, but noted
that this is a highly visible area and asked if a condition could
be added requiring replacement of a percentage of the vegetation
which is removed. (Mr. Fritz addressed the concern and explained
that such a condition was not necessary because the zoning
Ordinance already contains regulations which require a certain
percentage (10%) of tree canopy after 5 years, with the
calculation based on only that area which is disturbed.
Ms. Huckle asked if "permanent vegetation" refers to grass or
"something taller than grass." Mr. Fritz replied that grass is
considered a permanent vegetation, but there are other types of
vegetation which would also qualify as permanent vegetation. Ms.
Huckle felt it might be better to plant some type of shrub which
would not require mowing and would also hold the soil better than
grass.
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There being no further comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Dotson moved that SP-94-08 for Virginia Rowing be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to
the following conditions:
1. Development shall be in general accord with the plan titled
"proposed UVA Rowing Association Boathouse" and initialed WDF
3/31/94.
2. The new boathouse shall be similar in facade to a single
family dwelling private garage, shed, barn or other structure
normally expected in a rural area.
3. Design of walkway shall be approved by the Water Resource
Manager.
4. Provision of a permanent diversion berm to direct runoff from
the proposed development to the existing pond.
5. Provision of a single row of screening trees adjacent to the
parking area adjacent to Tax Map 45, parcels 5D3 and 5D4.
6. Prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy for the new
boathouse, the following shall be completed:
dam; a. Cutting of all trees and brush growing on the existing
b. Unclogging of the principal spillway of the dam.
7. All existing dirt/gravel roads for which no upgrade is
proposed shall be abandoned and permanent vegetation installed.
Ms. Imhoff seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
Ms. Imhoff asked that staff make certain the Commission's minutes
are given to members of the Site Review Committee. (Mr. Fritz
pointed out that 3 members of the Commission serve on the Site
Review Committee.)
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MISCELLANEOUS
CIP Memo
Mr. Cilimberg asked if the Commission had any comments on Mr.
Baker's memo, presented to them at the April 5th meerting. Ms.
Huckle commended staff for an excellent job. Mr. Blue suggested
that the memo be sent to Mr. Walter Johnson since he had been
responsible for some of the suggested changes.
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Mr. Dotson explained that he and Ms. Imhoff had come up with some
"basic questions" which might be of assistance in the upcoming
review. He distributed copies of these questions to the
Commission and briefly explained how he perceived these questions
would fit into the review process. He felt that it would be
particularly helpful to have maps showing: (1) Developed areas;
(2) Areas planned for development, but available and vacant; and
(3) Alternatives. (Mr. Blue was not opposed to this suggestion,
but felt it might "be a theoretical, academic exercise which
might not play too well in the real world.") Ms. Imhoff suggested
that other Commissioners might want to take time to look over
these questions and add some of their own.
Ms. Huckle asked if there was a map available which showed all
the platted parcels in the county. Mr. Cilimberg explained that
there is a tax -map composite for the County which shows all the
lots. Also, the subdivision map will show everything that has
been platted in subdivisions.
Ms. Imhoff expressed concern about holding the county -wide
meetings in June before enough factual information has been
gathered. She felt maps would be really helpful to the public.
She suggested that the June meetings be postponed until there is
some good information to show the public, information which they
can react to. Mr. Cilimberg commented that the next opportunity
to hold the meetings, if not in June, would be September. Mr.
Cilimberg also stated that the background report which staff is
currently working on will provide much of the information the
Commission is seeking.
Mr. Blue was of the impression that the Community Survey recently
completed also provides a good deal of information. Ms. Imhoff
agreed, but stated that it does not provide the "full picture."
Mr. Cilimberg offered to make available the maps developed for
the Master Utilities Plan, provided everybody look at them for
what they were meant to be, i.e. "an identification of areas
which hold potential, over a long term, for being developed
areas."
Committee Reports
Brief reports were given on the following committee meetings:
CIP and Fiscal Impact (Mr. Nitchmann); The CATS Advisory
Committee to the MPO (Mr. Blue) ; Design Committee (Ms. Huckle) .
Mr. Cilimberg distributed a report of the Visioning Committee
which included the recently adopted Vision Statement.
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There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:50
p.m.
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