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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05 24 1994 PC Minutes5-24-94 1 May 24,1994 The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday, May 24, 1994, Room 7, County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present were: Ms. Babs Huckle, Chair; Mr. Tom Blue, Vice Chair; Mr. Bill Nitchmann; Ms. Katherine Imhoff; Mr. Bruce Dotson; Mr. Tom Jenkins; and Ms. Monica Vaughan (arrived 7:25). Other officials present were: Mr. V. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development; Mr. Ron Keeler, Chief of Planning; and Mr. Larry Davis, County Attorney. The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. and a quorum was established. The minutes of May 10, 1994 were unanimously approved as amended. ----------------------------------------- ZTA-94-02 Westgate Limited Partnership - Petition to amend the provisions of the Planned Residential District, Section 10.3.2, to add by special use permit all uses permitted by special use permit in the R-15 district under Section 18.2.2. Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. He pointed out those uses in R-15 which are already permitted in the PRD: (Numbers 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 13, 14 and 16 listed under Section 19.3.2) Ms. Imhoff asked how many properties would be effected by this amendment, i.e. "how many properties are not PRD which would have this expanded list of special permits?" Mr. Keeler was unable to provide a definitive anwser to this question. He did explain, however, that "when we adopted the zoning map we designated all properties that exceeded 20 units/acre as PRD's. ... When we adopted the Zoning Ordinance and Map we took higher density residential areas that had been designated with conventional zoning, but because that was no longer available, we made them planned developments and actually took away many of the uses that were permitted. . Since the adoption of the Ordinance we have not had a PRD application in the rural areas --it has all been confined to growth areas. The largest PRD we have is Glenmore. Because the PRD is intended for higher density areas, it should be consistent in the uses that are permitted to other higher density areas." Ms. Imhoff agreed that staff had a good point, but she expressed the belief that there is a difference between R-15 and PRD's in that "PRD's give you a lot more flexibility." She felt a convincing argument could be made that the two are different. Ms. Huckle was of the understanding that the same types of commercial uses (e.g. hospitals) would not be allowed in a PRD as in a regular commercial area because of the residential aspect of /7_6� 5-24-94 2 the PRD. She asked: "Why are you using a machine-gun to swat this fly?" She asked: "Isn't it possible to add professional offices to this, which I am sure would not have a bad effect on the Planned Residential Community and it would take care of the request that we have?" Mr. Keeler explained that all the uses were by special permit so any request for a use which the Commission may feel is inappropriate in a low density development could be denied. Mr. Imhoff commented: "I'd be more inclinced, rather than go these machinations to make things fit, if it's more appropriately zoned R-15 rather than PRD, rezone it to R-15." Mr. Keeler responded: "The problem is you can't ever get above 20 units/acre unless you go to a PRD." Ms. Imhoff felt this supported her previous point that the two (R-15 and PRD) are not identical "and to say that they have to be consistent in uses, I think, is stretching it." She expressed no particular concern about adding professional offices to the Westgate development, but she did have concerns about "what floodgate we're opening up without having a sense of how many PRD's could possibly be effected by this expanded use." Ms. Huckle agreed that the R-15 and PRD are different. She read .the purpose statement of the PRD from the Ordinance. She felt that people who buy into PRD's should be able to have some feel there is some guarantee that it is going to "stay like it was when you bought into it." She expressed no concern about the professional office use. She again expressed the feeling that the best way to address this applicant's request was to simply add professional offices to the special permit uses. Mr. Cilimberg explained the staff's reasoning in presenting the amendment as proposed and explained that the Board (through the PRD and special permit process), ultimately, would have total discretion in deciding if certain uses (e.g. clubs, private schools, hospitals) would or would not be appropriate, depending on the type of residential development. He confirmed that the Commission could recommend something less than staff has proposed (as sugested by Ms. Huckle). He concluded: "We were taking the attack that it seemed to be something which left a lot of discretion but still created a consistency between what essentially can be a lower density residential district and the PRD district." Mr. Blue asked: "Is it true that what you were thinking is really in terms of creation of another PRD and what they are concerned with is what happens in an existing PRD?" Mr. Cilimberg responded: "It could be; it could be a PRD that we have now, as Westgate, where a private school could be (appropriate)." /74P 5-24-94 3 Mr. Blue asked why someone would want to create a PRD now if he could go ahead and get R-15. Mr. Cilimberg responded: "More density." Mr. Keeler described PRD's and PUD's as "hybrid animals where we can sit down with a developer and tailor it to meet our mutual needs. The developer obtains certain things and the public, ideally, gets a better plan. ... What we're trying to do is develop incentives for developers to use a planned approach." He concluded: "I think these amendments would allow a PRD of any density --and I don't think there is anything that precludes the Commission, in a particular case, from disapproving a special use ...." Ms. Imhoff again expressed concern about "trying to draw an analogy between R-15 and PRD when they are really two very different tools." She again stated her concern about the lack of information on how many existing PRD's this could impact. She also expressed the desire to look at the uses allowed in PRD's in other localities, before "really getting into the PRD" question. Ms. Huckle felt adding all these uses would "raise the expectations of the developer that they could have these things and then they will be disappointed when they are turned down." Ms. Huckle asked Mr. Davis if it was possible to approve only the addition of professional offices, or does the whole package have to go together? Mr. Davis replied: "You could reduce the number of uses that are permitted from the draft ordinance to what you approve. You have that flexibility. Addressing some earlier comments, he stated: "I don't think you are mandated to put in the same requirements in the PRD as there are in the R-15. I think they can be legally defended as different zoning districts with different uses. But Ron makes a good point that you need to be able to articulate those differences and I think you could do that justifiably. I think this is really a planning decision. The reasons that they give, if they are good planning reasons, you should adopt it, but it is not a legally mandated change." Mr. Blue said that though he did not really see anything wrong with the proposed amendment, he understood Ms. Imhoff's concern that perhaps there is something out there which might cause a problem. He pointed out that there are two professional planners on the Commission (Ms. Imhoff and Mr. Dotson), and he asked Mr. Dotson to comment. Mr. Dotson noted that the uses proposed would still be by special permit, which are discretionary, not ministerial. There is no obligation that they be approved. Mr. Blue understood that aspect of the proposed amendment. He asked Mr. Dotson to comment on whether he felt the reasons described by staff were sufficient to justify approval. Mr. Dotson expressed the desire to hear from the applicant. (Staff confirmed that the proposed amendment was initiated by the applicant.) In response to Mr. Blue's /77 5-24-94 4 question, Mr. Dotson stated: "The way I view this is in two ways: (1) The PRD is our (second) most flexible district --this adds flexibility; and (2) To the extent that this does apply to higher densities, I think an office would be a compatible use and we have all the controls we need through the discretionary authority of the special permit. I, quite frankly, don't have any concern that we retain controls by doing this." The applicant, Mr. Don Wagner, addressed the Commission. He described the zoning history of the Westgate development. He stated that offices were allowed with the original R-3 zoning, but R-3 had been done away with in the comprehensive county rezoning in 1978. The existing offices are now a grandfathered, non -conforming use. Consultations with staff had resulted in the amendment presently under discussion, though "what we had originally asked for was what some of you are suggesting, --for the PRD zone to be amended to allow office use." Staff felt this was a chance to "fix something that maybe was wrong with the Ordinance." Mr. Wagner explained all he was concerned with was expanding his office space. He added, however, that he felt the argument that these are the two zoning classifications which allow high density uses is a valid one. He explained: "It seemed to us that it was unreasonable that offices were allowed in R-15 but not allowed in PRD, which could be a higher density...." Mr. Dotson suggested that once the Comprehensive Plan Review is well along, the next major activity should be to look at the ordinances to see how well they implement the Plan. He later added to this suggestion: "At that point we might want to consider a by -right higher density as an incentive in order to encourage higher density." Ms. Huckle asked: "In the meantime, do we want to make such a big change in enabling this applicant to do what we all agree he should be able to do?" Mr. Blue expressed support for the applicant's being enabled to do what he wants to do. In terms of the entire amendment as presented by staff, he explained that he generally relies on staff's expertise, but in this case, he was "bothered" by the fact that at least one of the professional planners on the Commission does not agree with staff on this proposal. Ms. Imhoff stressed that she and Mr. Dotson are "here as Planning Commissioners, not as planners.' Mr. Blue stated Ms. Imhoff and Mr. Dotson could not deny that they had the same expertise as staff and while he welcomes that expertise, in situations such as this where there is a conflict with the staff's recommendation, it "bothers" him. 17V 5-24-94 Ms. Imhoff pointed out that this is a policy question, and not purely a planning question. She repeated her two concerns: (1) The unknown impact this would have on existing PRD's; and (2) What do we want the PRD really to do --what uses do we really want in them?" She concluded: "I think if the staff report had more depth, I might be feeling more comfortable." She expressed the feeling that if PRD's are to be amended, "we should do a good job of it, (rather than) running in and doing it because we all agree it makes sense to have professional offices." Mr. Nitchmann commented: "I guess I agree with everybody that has said something up here so far. I guess we have two situations--(1) There are PRD's already established out there; (2) If we're truly looking at the future to try to get higher density and more planned residential developments, then there should be more options available to people trying to put PRD's in. Whether we should jump forward at this point in time and just put a wish list down there without looking into it a little more deeply, even though the staff has looked at it, I think we are moving into this Comprehensive Plan review plan and we are going to look at land use and so forth, so it may be best at that time that we look at some of these things that Bruce recommended, after the fact instead of before the fact." There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved that ZTA 94-02 (Westgate Limited Partnership), be approved as follows: ADD to Section 19.3.2 (PRD District), BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT: 9. Professional offices. Ms. Imhoff seconded the motion. Discussion: Mr. Blue clarified: "So we are actually adding No. 11, which is already in the R-15, and making it No. 9." The motion passed unanimously. SP-94-18 West ate Limited Partnership - Petition to allow expansion of office space in the existing Westgate Apartment Complex. (This use is proposed by ZTA-94-02). Property, described as Tax Map 61, parcel 42D is located on the west side of Rt. 743 approximately 0.23 miles north of the Rt. 743/Rt. 656 intersection in the Jack Jouett Magisterial District. 5-24-94 6 Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. Staff recommended approval subject to conditions. Mr. Nitchmann asked if condition No. 3 [Use shall be limited to property management services.] was necessary, and, if so, could it be changed to say "limited to administrative office use?" Ms. Imhoff added: "Especially in light of the change just made to the PRD zone (adding) professional office." Mr. Cilimberg explained: "We were trying to identify what they were trying to do so there would be some expectation and understanding of the use that would occur there." He was uncertain as to how the term "administrative uses" would be interpreted by the Zoning Administrator since it is not a term that is defined in the Ordinance. Mr. Nitchmann defined an administrative use as "one not offering a service, like a doctor." Mr. Cilimberg explained that "property management services are pretty specific (and) they have been identified by the applicant as to what they want to do there so we felt comfortable that we could identify that pretty clearly by the application." Mr. Wagner commented that he had raised the question of the definition of professional office with the Zoning Administrator because it is not defined in the Zoning Ordinance. [It was later clarified that the term is defined in the Zoning Ordinance, but the definition is very difficult to understand.] Ms. McCulley had determined that the offices at Westgate are professional offices. He stated he was satisfied with the conditions as worded, or with the change suggested by Mr. Nitchmann. Mr. Dotson asked for a clarification of condition No. 1 [Use shall be limited to 2619 and 2621 Hydraulic Road plus the addition shown on Attachment C, initialed 5/17/94]. He was of the impression that the Commission was acting only on the addition shown on Attachment C. It was explained that Attachment C is an addition to the existing two units which are presently used as office space. Ms. Imhoff added: "Its the little back porches of these two yards that they are going to build over." There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. MOTION: Ms. Imhoff moved that SP-94-18 for Westgate Limited partnership be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following conditions: 1. Use shall be limited to 2619 and 2621 Hydraulic Road plus the addition shown on Attachment C, initialed 5/17/94 W.D.F. 2. Addition shall be of similar facade to the existing building. 3. Use shall be limited to property management services. 0 5-24-94 7 Mr. Nitchmann seconded the motion. Discussion: Mr. Dotson noted that parking did not seem to have been addressed. He asked if added employees would effect the parking requirements. Mr. Wagner stated there were no plans, at this point, to add employees, (though there may be some added at some future point). Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that any special use permit must obtain a zoning clearance, but he was of the understanding that the Zoning Administrator has determined there to be sufficient parking in the Westgate complex to meet the parking needs for this use. Mr. Dotson asked about the total square footage, number of employees, and nature of business. Mr. Wagner described the square footage as 14' x 17' x 4. There are presently 12 employees. The business manages Westgate and other properties as well. Mr. Wagner described the nature of the business in some detail. The previously stated motion for approval passed unanimously. ------------------------------------------ ZTA-94-4 Fees - Petition to permit the Board of Supervisors to reduce fees in a particular case in order to provide access to the review process by all citizens. Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. The proposed amendment had originated with the Board of Supervisors and the Planning Commission. The public purpose to be served: "To permit the Board of Supervisors to reduce fees in a particular case in order to provide access to the review process by all citizens." The staff report also listed several other fee -related issues which it felt the Commission might wish to discuss, if not at this time, at some future time. Mr. Blue expressed the feeling that "the people who need this the most are not going to be in a position to know how to use it unless there is some sort of advocate." He asked if the County was going to be the advocate. Mr. Keeler called attention to item #2 on page 2 of the staff report which stated that "applicants would be notified at time of application submittal of the availability of fee reduction by the Board." He added that it was up to the Zoning Administrator to determine exactly how this would be done. At Mr. Dotson's request, Mr. Keeler related some cases which had led to this proposed amendment. ,$1 5-24-94 8 Ms. Huckle asked if staff otters assistance to persons who have not yet submitted a formal application. Mr. Cilimberg responded that staff encourages "pre -application conferences," which involve no fee. (Mr. Blue noted that though these pre - conferences do not cost the individual applicant, they do cost the taxpayer in terms of staff time.) Ms. Imhoff clarified that the Commission was being asked to take action only on the three items listed as a, b and c on pages 1 and 2 of the staff report. She felt that the other 7 related topics listed on pages 2 and 3 should be taken up at some later time, along with some other issues (e.g. the Historic District) which have been "back burnered" for some time. Ms. Huckle asked for a further explanation of item 2 on page 3, related to the increase of fees for Home Occupation Class B. Mr. Keeler explained that staff had been anticipating treating these applications in the same manner as mobile homes, i.e. if there are no objections the permit would be administratively approved subject to a specified set of regulations. However, the County Attorney has advised that is not an option because only the Board of Supervisors, or the Board of Zoning Appeals can issue a special permit. So, unless the use is permitted by right, with standards, it has to be approved by the Board. Mr. Keeler asked that the Commission comment on this additional matter, even if it chose to postpone discussion of the other 6 issues listed. It was Ms. Huckle's feeling that some Class B Home Occupations can cause a considerable impact to a neighborhood; therefore she was not in favor of them being permitted by right. Mr. Nitchmann asked if discussion of ZTA 94-4 could be completed before taking up any other issues. The Chairman invited public comment. Mr. Kevin Cox addressed the Commission. He expressed the feeling that many fees are much too excessive. He was glad to see that staff was attempting to address this problem. However, he was concerned about the process the Board might use in making eligibility determinations. He was opposed to persons being required to make public "very personal aspects of their lives" in order to get relief from the fees. He felt consideration must be given to the privacy issue. Mr. Cox also commented on item 5 on page 3 of the staff report. He pointed out that even though a use may be considered beneficial to the community, there may be no demonstrable hardship. He concluded: "So there are two issues here." He felt the solution was "to reduce dramatically some of these fees and let the taxpayers, as a whole, absorb the cost and not to use the fees as a means to discourage certain kinds of uses." /P 5-24-94 9 Ms. Imhoff asked if Mr. Cox had any recommendations for a "guage" which might be used in determining hardship. She was sympathetic to Mr. Cox's comments about privacy. Mr. Cox replied: "There is nothing that I would think is any of the government's business." He felt there was a legal question involved as to whether or not the governing body has the right to ask for income information from applicants for fee reduction. Mr. Jenkins recalled that this had originated when the Board of Supervisors directed staff to develop a revised fee schedule -- "that's how they got adjusted up, and now they are saying they want them adjusted down." Mr. Nitchmann suggested that perhaps staff should be asked to justify the fees. It was pointed out by staff that that had already been done. At the time the study was being performed by staff the Board had been aware of, and understood, the procedure staff was following. Mr. Blue did not think the question was related to whether or not the fees were justified. He had no doubt they could be justified. He felt the question "boils down'to whether or not we feel there are certain people who shouldn't have to pay those fees and how do we determine who they are without invading their privacy." He concluded: "I don't think we can do it." Ms. Huckle pointed out that would be a determination to be made by the Board, not the Commission. It was her understanding the Board wanted the flexibility to reduce the fees in particular cases, which they are not able to do at the present time. Referring to Ms. Huckle's comments, Mr. Blue wondered why the Board needed the Commission's comments. He stated: "They don't have to get advice from us in order to have the legal right to do this. They are asking us for advice to do just the sort of thing that staff is recommending." Mr. Nitchmann asked why the matter had come to the Commission. Staff explained: "Because it is a zoning text amendment; it has to come before you." Mr. Cilimberg explained that staff had discussed this issue and had found it "virtually impossible to identify a clear way to establish ---what I think Kevin is asking is an honest question -- what do you expect to see from people? We felt at a loss too. In a sense, we are kind of asking the Board, 'what do you expect to try to get V because we couldn't identify anything that seemed reasonable as a basis. So, in fact, we fell back on some of the hardship language that is included for a completely different reason in the Ordinance just to try to establish something that the Board could go from. What we did keep coming back to is some of these items these seven points raise, and that is rather than, or in addition to, doing some hardship kind of cases, there may /93 5-24-94 10 be some particular public interest in changing fees that exist for other than trying to recover 100% of the average cost." Ms. Imhoff suggested that it would be worth discussing these issues with the Board during the joint meeting in June. She wanted more guidance from the Board before addressing those other seven points. Mr. Nitchmann concluded that the item was before the Commission as a procedural matter, i.e. "because it has to come before us." He stated: "My opinion is just to take ZTA-94-4 and pass it on to the Board with no recommendation. They have accomplished what they wanted. They have got the staff to look into it and make some recommendations. If it is the Board's desire to take this path --I am certainly not in favor of passing something forward that is going to cause someone some embarrassment. ... I think what the Board wanted to get accomplished has been accomplished. Now, if the Board disagrees with that, and they want our humble opinions on a lot of things and want us to take a lot of time and study this, then they can send it back to us." Mr. Blue pointed out that the Commission does not have to recommend approval of the proposed amendment. Mr. Jenkins expressed no opposition to following either Mr. Nitchmann's suggestion to pass it back to the Board with no recommendation, or to pass it back to the Board with a negative recommendation. Mr. Jenkins expressed an interest in knowing how other localities handle this matter. Mr. Davis explained that some ordinances "beg" the issue because they say "The Board of Supervisors may reduce the fee and they don't put any standards in it." He pointed out that the recommended amendment does not contain any criteria that applicant's have to produce certain documentation. He explained: "The burden is really on the applicant to show that they have a hardship. It is their choice whether or not they want to ask for this waiver of fees." He pointed out that without this amendment, the Board cannot grant a reduction in fees even if someone chooses to claim a hardship. He did not think this was a perfect solution, but it does give the Board a tool to deal with the situation when it arrises. Mr. Blue commented: "It gives them the legal right to be benevolent if they choose to." Ms. Huckle asked if it could be approved as: "The Board of Supervisors may reduce fees in any particular case." Mr. Davis commented: "It is always better to have some measurable standard rather than just having it be totally discretionary." Mr. Nitchmann said: "Brit this has no measurable standard." Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that the amendment does outline procedure. lg� 5-24-94 11 Mr. Nitchmann repeated his earlier feeling that we have accomplished what the Board wanted, i.e. "some advice from staff." He added: "This is a pretty board issue and they are the elected officials. This matter has a lot of social ramifications to it other than just cost and I think they are best equipped to handle those issues as they see fit. If they want us to spend more time on it, then they can send it back down to us." Ms. Huckle tried to determine if a request for a fee reduction would actually be discussed as part of a public hearing before the Board. Mr. Cilimberg responded: "I can't say what they will discuss. I can say that anything that is part of a package for the Board is public record." Mr. Davis added: "It could be public record, but the procedures could be established by the Board to consider it as part of their consent agenda, for example. But anything on the consent agenda, can always be pulled off for discussion. We envision that there would be a justification and then a staff recommendation as to whether or not it met the standard and it would not be something of predominant importance on the Board's agenda." Mr. Blue asked if there was any support from other Commissioners for Mr. Cox's suggestion to lower the fee structure and "go back to the time when it was paid for by the general public in the form of taxes." Mr. Nitchmann responded: "If it's the general public --Mr. John Q. Citizen --coming before me to ask for a division right to give to his family, I don't think he should be charged for that. But if it's Mr. Developer walking in here wanting to put in 4,200 houses someplace and it is going to take up 1,500 hours of staff time in site plan review, then that's part of doing business. So if you can draw a line some place and say, 'this has to do with personal issues and not issues of commerce, then I would say personal issues get no charges, but commerce issues get charged. That seems to me to serve the general public." Mr. Blue expressed general agreement with that philosophy, but he wondered how it could be implemented. Ms. Imhoff again expressed the opinion that this would be a worthwhile topic for the joint meeting with the Board. Regarding ZTA-94--4, Ms. Imhoff expressed the feeling that it would give the Board discretion to grant waivers which it does not presently have. She concluded: "Even though I have concerns about a person's privacy, I still think it might help somebody, so I am kind of inclined, even with all our objections, to go ahead and approve it... as outlined by staff and move it up to the Board_" 5-24-94 12 Mr. Dotson felt it was important that the minutes reflect the Commission's discussion. He sensed that "we are going to send it on without enthusiasm as to the details but understanding of the principles." He also stated: "I do support user fees, generally speaking." He suggested that when staff next looks at fees, "maybe you'll find there are a lot of really simple applications you have been overcharging for. Maybe it's bi-modal... that there are really major subdivisions and minor subdivisions, major day- care, and minor day-care, and maybe you could legitimately make a distinction." In trying to list possible criteria he had come up with the following: (1) Whether or not it is for profit, or is non profit; and (2) Consideration of the value of the real estate that is of public record. Ms. Vaughan expressed a dislike for the language of the amendment as presented. She favored Mr. Nitchmann's suggestion to send the item back to the Board with no recommendation. She stated: "I understand the need for flexibility, but it also tends to add a little bit of discrimination." She felt it was difficult to define hardship. Mr. Nitchmann concluded: "I can't vote for this thing because I think it can be very subjective and at times can be very discriminatory in nature. That's why I can't vote for it. ... I'm not willing to vote for this as an affirmative; at the same time, I don't want to deny it." MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved that ZTA-94-4 be passed on to the Board with no recommendation. Ms. Vaughan seconded the motion which passed (6:1) with Commissioner Blue casting the dissenting vote. ----------------------------------------- Resolution of Intent Related to Home Occupations Class B - Staff was asking that the Commission adopt a Resolution of Intent to consider amending the Zoning Ordinance to make Class B Home occupations by right. In response to Mr. Nitchmann's request, Mr. Keeler explained briefly the difference between Class A and Class B Home Occupations. Ms. Huckle was in favor of delaying discussion of this item until the Commission had had more time to consider it. Ms. Imhoff expressed an interest in knowing which Class B Occupations have caused problems in the past. She also asked for more information on the proposed changes to restrictions on churches. ow 5-24-94 13 Mr. Keeler explained that as a minimum, the Ordinance needs to be amended to reflect the deletion of a procedure which was deleted from the ordinance, by action of the Board, a year ago (Section 5.6.1). Mr. Keeler explained that 5.6.1 "established a procedure for handling a special use permit which was an administrative procedure and which the County Attorney has told us is no longer available." MOTION: Ms. Imhoff moved, seconded by Mr. Nitchmann, that the Albemarle County Planning Commission, to serve the public necessity, convenience, general welfare or good zoning practice, adopt a Resolution of Intent to consider the amendment of the Zoning Ordinance to allow Home Occupation: Class B as a use by - right in all zoning districts in which it is currently provided by special use permit. There was a discussion as to whether or not the word "consider" should be a part of the motion. Mr. Blue felt it was redundant because a Resolution of Intent is just "intent, it is not a resolution." Mr. Dotson and Ms. Imhoff disagreed because they felt it could be misunderstood by the public. It was explained that adoption of a Resolution of Intent was a procedural requirement which allows the issue to be advertised for public hearing. It does not mean that the adoption of the proposed amendment is a foregone conclusion. The previously stated motion passed (6:1) with Commissioner Huckle casting the dissenting vote. Staff could not say for certain when this item would be rescheduled. ----------------------------------------- MISCELLANEOUS It was decided that staff's memo related to fees for church applications would be discussed at a later time. Ms. Huckle expressed the hope that fees for small churches, which are often excessive, will be rectified. However, she noted that in the case of large churches, they can sometimes have as much effect as a shopping mall. ----------------------------------------- There was a brief discussion of an upcoming application from Covenant Church. Mr. Nitchmann pointed out this applicant has made repeated applications and this is an example where a church should not be exempt from fees. ----------------------------------------- Ms. Imhoff asked if staff had any way to research whether development has actually been taking place at its maximum density. She was interested in determining "if we have a lot of /Y 5-24-94 14 underbuilding for certain zones." Mr. Cilimberg explained that staff had done such an analysis during the last Comp Plan review. He also recalled that there had been a time when the Board of Supervisors (a previous Board) "very seldom zoned to the maximum density —so there was probably some zoning established over time that was not at maximum density." ----------------------------------------- Ms. Imhoff reported that the State has been working on a statewide preservation plan and a public meeting is scheduled for June 15th in Charlottesville (7:30 in Council Chambers, City Hall) . ----------------------------------------- Mr. Nitchmann asked if staff is preparing any maps for the Comp Plan review which will show where staff feels growth areas should be established. Mr. Cilimberg reminded the Commission that some maps were developed when utilities were being studied. He explained: "So what we will be providing for you probably is the extent of areas that could reasonably be served by utilities and that fit other infrastructure and natural resources constraints." Mr. Cilimberg reported that the survey has been completed and the results are currently being compiled. Response was excellent. ----------------------------------------- Mr. Dotson distributed a possible agenda for the May 31st work session. Ms. Imhoff felt it would be helpful to use flip charts so that there could be a visual representation of people's comments. It was hoped that the meeting could be held in room 5- 6. Referring to the last statement on the agenda, Mr. Cilimberg asked that there be no attempt to begin development of county policy at this point. He explained that a staff committee is presently working on a report which will set forth "those things related to economic development and employment which arose last year out of the first economic development policy which came to the Board." He felt that group would "benefit greatly from knowing where the Commission's emphasis and real issues lie." ----------------------------------------- 10 5-24-94 15 Ms. Huckle reported that she had attended the graduation for the Apprenticeship Program at CA -TECH. She had found it very interesting and stated that both Phillip Crocker (CA -TECH) and Dennis Thomas, publisher of the Daily Progress, would be glad to talk with the Commission about the program. Mr. Dotson suggested this might be included in the session with the Education Department. ----------------------------------------- There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m. CJ U."JItV, V. Wayne ilimberg, etary / 9f