HomeMy WebLinkAbout11 13 84 PC MinutesNovember 13, 1984
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a public
hearing on Tuesday, November 13, 1984, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present
were: Mr. Richard Cogan, Vice -Chairman; Mr. Richard Gould; Mr.
James Skove; Mr. Tim Michel and Ms. Norma Diehl. Other officials
present were: Mr. James Donnelly, Director of Planning and Com-
munity Development; Mr. Ron Keeler, Chief of Planning; Ms.
Katherine Imhoff, Chief of Community Development; Ms. Mary Joy
Scala, Senior Planner; Ms. Joan Davenport, Senior Planner; and
Mr. Frederick Payne, Deputy County Attorney. Absent: Mr.
David Bowerman, Mr. Harry Wilkerson and Ms. Patricia. Cooke,
Ex-Officio.
Mr. Cogan called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. after
establishing that a quorum was present.
The minutes of the October 23, 1984 meeting were approved as
written.
Raintree, Phases 2 and 3, Sidewalks - Mr. Keeler gave the
staff report. He explained this was one of the developments where
the Virginia Department of Highways and Transportation had re-
fused to accept maintenance of the sidewalks in Phases II and
III of the development. He stated the developer had modified
the plans for the walks and they would be maintained by a home --
owners association.
Scope of Pedestrian Obstacle Study - WORK SESSION - As part of
the FY85 Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) funding has
been set aside to study pedestrian circulation in targeted County
locations in the urbanized area to identify volumes and specific
locations requiring improvements. Planning Commission's aid is
requested in determining areas and items to be studied.
Ms. Imhoff gave the staff report.
Mr. Cogan suggested tying the 29 North Corridor Pedestrian Study
in with the Target Study. Ms. Imhoff confirmed this would be
possible.
It was the consensus of the Commission to focus on the Target Study
option as outlined by the staff since it was felt this would be
most productive.
Ms. Imhoff asked the Commission to pinpoint areas they would like
to see studied. The following areas were suggested: (1) Rt. 29N -
It was suggested parallel networks would be desirable, i.e. along
Hydraulic Road and Rio Road, rather than actually on Rt. 29N;
(2) WA area; (3) Area from Piedmont Housing to Rt. 29/250 Bypass
Bridge; and. (4) Rio Road/Squire Hill Area.
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It was determined it would be desirable to establish connector
segments and not just intersection crossings. It was also
determined the possibility of constructing "pathways" in some
areas should be explored.
Mr. Payne entered the meeting at 7:50 p.m.
It was determined that it would be desirable to get input from
the County Police Department on this matter.
Fontana (This item was not on the agenda.) - Request to adopt a
Resolution of Intent to amend the Comprehensive Plan to include
the current Fontana area within the jurisdictional area of the
Albemarle County Service Authority.
Mr. Keeler presented this issue and.stated it was being brought
to the Commission at this time to keep the re -zoning petition on
schedule since it must be advertised. He further explained that
the area subject to the re -zoning has been reduced substantially
from the original PRD and it is the feeling of staff that the
current development would best be served by public water. Mr.
Keeler stated staff had just realized that in order to keep the
zoning amendment on schedule, an amendment to the Comprehensive
Plan is needed at the same time in order to show the area being
served by public water. He explained that a Resolution of Intent
Is all that is needed at this time and the :natter will then be
advertised and brought back to the Commission for review at a
later time.
In response to Mr. Cogan's request for clarification as to what
item was necessitating an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan
in this case, Ms. Scala explained that in order for the Board
to extend the water service to the area, it must be in the urban
area. Mr. Cogan indicated he did not feel this was accurate
since in a previous development (Inglecress) water had been
extended and it was not in the urban area.
Mr. Payne explained that it was not required to extend the
urban area to correspond to jurisdictional areas, but it has
been the Board's practice to confine public utilities to the
urban areas except in special cases. He stated with the Inglecress
development, the service was already physically there. He
pointed out that it would not have.made any difference in the
Inglecress development, but it does make a difference in this
current development.
tilt. Payne confirmed that the moving of the urban area line does
require a Comprehensive Plan amendment.
Mr. Keeler stated the density being requested (1 unit/2 acres) is
not an urban density, but the lot size requires central water.
He stated the current jurisdictional area goes through the project
so some of the lots can be served by public water, but some cannot.
He continued that the idea is to amend the jurisdictional area
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to include the entire project in -public water, but.he did not
feel this necessitated an amendment to the -Land Use Plan because
the density is not an urban density. He stated the amendment
to the Plan would be to include the Fontana area within the
service area of the Albemarle County Service Authority.
In response to Mr: Cogan's inquiry, Mr. Payne confirmed that it was
advisable to include in the motion the intent.to amend the urban
area.
Referring to a former proposal (Keswick PUD), Mr. Skove indicated
he was reluctant to amend the Comprehensive Plan each time one
of these proposals comes up.
Mr. Cogan agreed with Mr. Skove, but pointed out that in this
particular case,the water was not available when the Comprehensive
Plan was adopted, but has come into being since that time.
It was pointed out that all that was being requested at this
time was a Resolution of Intent and no action would be taken on
the actual amendment proposal until it was advertised and reviewed
by the Commission at a later date.
Ms. Diehl moved to adopt a Resolution of Intent to Amend the
Comprehensive Plan to extend the jurisdictional district for
water to include the Fontana area and to amend the Neighborhood
3 Land Use Plan as it relates to the Fontana area.
Mr. Michel seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Minor Townhouses - Request to subdivide 35 lots zoned R-6, Resi-
dential. This is a reconsideration of a previously approved plat.
Property, described as tax map 61W(2), parcel 45, is located on
the north side of Westfield Road, north of the existing Minor
Townhouses. Charlottesville Magisterial District.
Ms. Scala gave the staff report.
In answer to Mr. Cogan's inquiry, Ms. Scala confirmed that the issue
being dealt with at this time is the expiration of the plat. She
also confirmed that most of the original conditions of approval
had been met.
In reference to the letter signed by adjacent property owners
suggesting that a barrier of trees be planted in the common area,
Mr. Bob Hauser, the applicant, addressed the Commission and
stated he had just been made aware of said letter and that he
had no objections to constructing such a barrier, though it
might be necessary to plant some of the trees on already developed
lots in order for them to be effective.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
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Ms. Diehl moved that the Minor Townhouses Phase II Final Plat
be approved subject to the following conditions:
1.. The final plat will not be signed until the following
conditions have been met:
a. County Engineer approval of drainage easements;
b. Provide owner's notarized signature.
Mr. Michel seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Discussion of CPA 84-7 (Route 742/631 Link Roadway)and Interstate
Access - WORK SESSION - Discussion of alternatives for providing
interstate aa3--ss for industrial property along Route 742 (Avon
Street) and evaluation of proposed road segment shown in Neighbor-
hoods 4 & 5 of the Albemarle County Comprehensive Plan 1982--2002.
Ms. Imhoff gave the staff report and presented a slide show of
the area.
It was determined the staff planned to present a Comprehensive
Plan Amendment on this issue to the Commission on December 1.1.
Mr. Cogan stated he recalled that the Commission had been leaning
toward the interchange idea, but the information presented at
this meeting indicated the Highway Department would not be
in favor of an interchange because of funding problems. He also
felt the Highway Department's stand at this time was completely
contrary to previous statements made by that department.
Ms. Imhoff pointed out that the Highway Department had not
refused to do an interchange, but they would not pay for it.
The funds would have to come from the County.
Mr. Skove asked if Industrial Access Funds could be used for this.
GIs. Imhoff indicated she felt the Highway Department would not
be able to give further comment on the idea until a feasibility
study had been done. She confirmed she would seek additional
input from the Highway Department.
Mr. Skove stated he felt the CAT study was a feasibility study.
He also stated that very little available land exists in the
County that is zoned LI that has water and sewer as this land
does. So given a choice of developing Light Industry at this
location or on Rt. 29N, he stated he would prefer that it be
developed here. He added he felt an interchange at this point
would encourage industrial growth.
Ms. Imhoff stated if the.Commission did not wish to pursue the
matter further at this time, the staff report presented at
the December 11 meeting would be basically the same with the
addition of the following: (1) Additional information on inter-
change funding availability; (2) An explanation from the.Highway
Department regarding the CAT Study comments and the possibility
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of doing a feasibility study under the CAT study; (3) More
attention may be given to exploring the Willoughby site; and
(4)Feasibility studies for the various connector roads would
be available.
Ms. Imhoff stated Planning Commission action would be sought
on December 11 as to whether to approve or deny the request to
amend the Comprehensive Plan to delete the Rt. 742/631 roadway
link.
Ms. Diehl asked that the record show that she was appalled
to see a connector road suggested through Piedmont Virginia
Community College. She stated she did not see any advantage
to trying to connect to Rt. 53 since the function and utilization
of the two roads is by two completely different groups. She
added such a road would have a negative impact, particularly in
regard to the tourist traffic in this area. Mr. Michel indicated
he was in agreement with Ms. Diehl.
Mr. Cogan stated he would be opposed to any road that connected
with Rt. 20 between Rt. 53 and an interchange.
Ms. Imhoff confirmed that this connector road would not be given
further consideration.
Mr. Cogan stated he did not see the necessity of going both ways
on Rt. 742, one way being sufficient to get the industrial traffic
out of the interchange.
The meeting recessed at 9:15 .m.; reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
Discussion of Interstate Interchange Stud - WORK SESSION -
A Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) directed project con-
sisting of review and recommendations for development impact and
potential in the vicinity of four urban interchanges of I-64:
Shadwell -.Route 250 East, Route 20, Fifth Street (Route 631)
and Route 29/Bypass, culminating in policy and standard guidelines.
(Presented to the Planning Commission on 10/30/84).
Mr. Michel stated he felt it was questionable to delete the
Avon Street extended/old Rt. 29 area from the Interchange Study.
Ms. Davenport explained this had not been included because of its
distance from the actual interchange making it fall outside the
natural boundary lines.
Ms. Davenport stated the area of main concern was Part 3 - Policies
and Standards, since this is the area of most interest to the MPO.
Mr. Cogan asked if it was stated clearly, somewhere in the study,
where utilities currently exist and where they could go.
Ms. Davenport responded there were detailed comments from the
Service Authority regarding the current location of utility lines
but not on future location of lines.
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Mr. Cogan stated he felt it would be helpful to have an idea
of where the lines could be extended.
It was determined a utility map would be helpful.
It was determined that interstate development is an area which
needs to be included in more detail in the Comprehensive Plan.
Ms. Imhoff stated that while a formal approval from the Commission
was not required, staff is seeking comments before submitting the
report to the MPO. She also pointed out this study would be useful
in future utility planning, Comprehensive Plan amendments and
Zoning Ordinance amendments.
OLD BUSINESS - Review of November 7, 1984 Joint Meetin with the
Board of Supervisors
The .Commissioners discussed Mr. Lindstrom's letter to Mr. Tucker,
and there was some confusion as to the main point of the letter.
It was generally felt the letter dealt with a review of the
planning process.
Mr. Cogan stated he felt the letter suggested it was a foregone
conclusion that what was suggested in the letter would be done
(i.e. establishment of a committee, etc.) by December 1. He added
be felt more time was needed for tine Commission to dicrest the
letter and ::take recommendations to the Board.
It was the consensus of the Commission that a letter be drafted to the
Board stating the areas the Corission feels should be giver_
priority and outlining a process for dealing with said items.
At the same time, said letter would ask for the entire Board's
analysis of the Lindstrom letter and an indication from the Board
that the Commission's interpretation of the Lindstrom letter
was correct.
Mr. Cogan stated his feeling that such a committee would not
be effective without the assistance of .the Planning Staff to
answer questions as to how particular processes actually work.
Mr.Payne stated, if his interpretation of Mr. Lindstrom's
letter was correct, what was being suggested would be a very
comprehensive study that could not possibly be done in less
than two or three years. On the other hand, if the idea is to
develop a catalog -type outline of the planning processes,
this would be a staff function and could be completed fairly
quickly.
Mr. Payne stated that before a comprehensive review of the
process could be undertaken, it would be necessary to determine
exactly how the process works, and this is a function of staff.
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It was determined that staff was being asked to develop an outline
of how procedures are worked out, including problem areas and
suggestions as to how to rectify problems. Ms. Imhoff stated
that staff is already in the process of doing this .as part of the
current computerization.
Mr. Cogan stated he felt it was premature to establish a committee
at this point since it was necessary to obtain staff's report
on procedures before proceeding.
Mr. Payne suggested the staff report might be in the form of a
"flow chart" along with examples for each process.
Deviating from the subject, Mr. Cogan stated his feeling that
long-term planning matters should be reviewed by the Commission
at separate meetings from regular agenda matters because of
the diversification of the topics. Mr. Michel agreed and stated
he felt the Commission could deal with these matters more effective-
ly if they were reviewed separate from other items.
Mr. Cogan stated the Commission needed to be mindful of not
spreading its efforts too thin.
It was determined the matter at issue at this time was possibly
amending the planning process, but not amending the Zoning
ordinance -or any other ordinance.
It was determined Mr. Cogan would draft a letter to the Board
explaining the process the Commission plans to follow in dealing
with this issue, and would present a draft of said letter to
the Commission for approval on November 20.
ZTA-84-4 Emmaus with Child
ZTA-84-5 Henry_Javor
Due to an oversight, the applicants in these two matters had not
been notified, and deferral was requested until November 27.
Ms. Diehl moved that ZTA 84-4 and ZTA-84-5 be deferred until
November 27. Mr. Skove seconded the motion which was unanimously
approved.
Piedmont Corridor Proposal -- Mr. Cogan read a letter, drafted
by staff under Mr. Bowerman's signature, to be sent to Mr. Harold
King, State Department of Highways and Transportation. He
stated that many of the questions posed in the letter were taken
from a letter to Mr. Bowerman from Ms. Louise Putnam -Stoner, a
resident of the Earlysville area. He added a committee from the
Earlysville area had obtained many signatures against the proposal.
Referring to an undated resolution drawn by the Board of Supervisors
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which was sent to Commissioner King, he stated Mr. King had
responded to.this resolution, but he has not responded to
a letter dated October 27 sent by the Planning Staff.
The Commission indicated their approval of the letter with the
following additions: (1) Ask for the date of origin of the
proposed road alignment; and (2) Ask for a meeting to be
arranged (in Richmond) with officials after a written response
has been received answering these questions.
In answer to Mr. Michel's inquiry., it was determined the Piedmont
Corridor proposal was in addition to the. Eastern Bypass proposal.
Ms. Imhoff stated no answer has been received regarding the
Eastern Bypass.
Mr. Cogan stated that even though he did not feel the proposed
road .would ever.actually materialize, the people in the path.
of the proposed road alianz;-?nt were suffering greatly,.and he felt
it was desirable to push for a.statement from the State Highway
Department withdrawing the proposal.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:25 p.m.
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Maes R. n elly, Secretary
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