HomeMy WebLinkAbout11 20 84 PC MinutesNovember 20, 1984
The Albemarle County Planning Commission conducted a public
hearing on Tuesday, November 20, Meeting Room 7, County Office
Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present
were: Mr. David Bowerman, Chairman; Mr. Richard Cogan, Vice
Chairman; Mr. Richard Gould; Mr. James Skove; Mr. Harry Wilkerson;
Ms. Norma Diehl. Other officials present: Ms. Marcia Joseph,
Planner; Ms. Mary Joy Scala, Senior Planner; Ms. Amelia McCulley,
Planner; Mr. Frederick Payne, Deputy County Attorney; Ms. Patricia
Cooke, Ex-Officio. Absent: Mr. Tim Michel.
Mr. Bowerman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. after
establishing that a quorum was present.
Theminutes of the October 30, 1984 meeting were approved as
written.
Federal Express and Retail Office Buildings Site Plan - Located
on the east side of Route 29 North, on the south side of the
South Fork of the Rivanna River. Proposal to locate a one story
24,500 square foot building comprised of a 14,000 square foot ware-
house area, 7,500 square foot retail area, and 3,000 square foot
office area; all served by 169 parking spaces on a 9.934 acre parcel.
Zoned HC, Highway Commercial. Tax Map 45B1-6, Parcel 1B.
Charlottesville Magisterial District.
Ms. Joseph gave the staff report.
Mr. Bowerman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Edwards, the applicant, addressed the Commission and stated
he had no objections to any of the conditions of approval outlined
by staff.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Mr. Bowerman asked for comment from Mr. Elrod, County Engineer.
Mr. Elrod addressed the Commission and stated that although he
had been concerned about erosion problems with this plan all
along, after researching the matter, he had come to the conclusion
erosion problems were unlikely to occur. He stated he was
concerned, however, about the fact that the plans show the
construction going right up to the property line, meaning the
work would spill over onto adjacent property owners. He stated
that although the drainage problems associated with the entrance
at Rt. 29N had not been addressed as yet, he felt they could be
handled. He confirmed that he would require the applicant to adhere
to a maximum of 2:1 slope.
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Referring to the excess of 42 parking spaces, Ms. Diehl suggested
that it might be possible to eliminate 10--12 of these spaces in
order to deal with some of Mr. Elrod's concerns. Mr. Elrod
agreed that this might be possible though he indicated he was not
aware of the applicant's reason for the excess number of spaces.
Mr. Bowerman asked for comment from Mr. Echols of the Highway
Department regarding the cul-de-sac design.
Mr. Echols addressed the Commission. He stated an alternative
design had been suggested by his department which would satisfy
his requirements and at the same time would line up with the
entrance off Rt. 29, i.e.. it would move the entrance 30 feet
north. He stated since the Highway Department would not take over
the service road until it was built, they had no control over it.
In response to Mr. Cogan's inquiry, Mr. Echols confirmed that
when the service road was accepted into the Highway Department
system, the "temporary" ingress and egress referred to in this
proposal would no longer be allowed and would be closed.
Ms. Diehl asked if it was correct.that the service road was not
going to be built at this time, and the cul-de-sac at the
temporary entrance would be the only ingress and egress. This
was confirmed.. Ms. Diehl concluded the Commission was being
asked to approve an entranceway onto Rt. 29.
It was determined.the properties along the proposed service road
were not under one control.
Mr. Diehl -stated her understanding that this temporary entrance
could exist indefinitely.
Mr. Bowerman asked sir. Edwards if he wasaware of any discussion
that may have taken place among the owners of the .adjacent properties
regarding the construction of the service road. It was determined
such discussion had taken place with two property owners and they
had indicated they were not prepared to build a service road at
this time.
Ms. Diehl again stated she was in favor of 10-12 of the parking
spaces being removed to give some breathing room. The applicant
explained the extra spaces were being requested at this time so
as not to limit the possible future uses of the property.
Mr. Bowerman expressed frustration with the fact that so much time
had .been spent trying to obtain a safe access to the site and
then having it develop in this manner, i.e. the furthest parcel
from the entrance being developed first.
Ms. Diehl stated her feeling that allowing this site to develop
in this manner would negate all the time spent on the service
road.
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The possibility of putting a time limit on the service road was
discussed, but it was generally felt this would not be equitable
since it could force the applicant to have to build such a
road individually without any contributions from the other
property owners.
Ms. Diehl suggested the possibility of building a service road
to minimum standards that could possibly cost the same as con-
tributing to a portion of a higher standard service road.
Mr. Cogan pointed out the Floor Fashions plan had been denied
because of the service road issue and indicated it would be
difficult to justify approving this plan. He also mentioned the
safety factor which had been discussed by the Commission at a
previous meeting. On the other hand, Mr. Cogan stated the Board
had apparently approved the service road with a temporary ingress
in the middle and egress at the end. He agreed with Mr. Bowerman's
statement that the Board's intent may have been to go along with
the possibility that development may not be progressive from
the entrance. He indicated confusion as to what the intent of
the Board had actually been.
Ms. Cooke entered the meeting at 8:10 p.m.
Mr. Cogan asked Ms. Cooke to clarify the Board's intent in the
proposal of the interim connection and the exit (he indicated
the areas on the map).
Ms. Cooke stated it dealt with trying to maintain a smoother
traffic flow and alleviate any congestion that might occur
at the one exit. She further explained the only exit would have
been back at Real Estate III and placing an exit at the end
would have allowed anyone exiting northbound to exit without
having to come back up to go out the other exit.
Mr. Cogan asked if it was the intent of the Board that those
interim ingresses and egresses were to be used so that the entire
service road would not have to be completed, or were they meant
to be temporary.
Ms. Cooke indicated they were meant to be temporary. She also
recalled the bottom entrance was not meant to be temporary, but
could possibly be a permanent egress for northbound traffic only.
Ms. Diehl stated she would like for whatever was approved for the
site plan to reflect what was approved previously, i.e. the
service road.
Ms. Diehl moved that the Federal Express and Retail Office Buildings
Site Plan be DENIED because it did not reflect the approved .service
road for that area that had already been discussed by the
Commission. In order for the site plan to be approved, the applicant
must adhere to the original plan approved by the Board of Super-
visors which required egress only from the cul-de-sac on the
applicant's property and separate ingress from the center of the
service road.
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Mr. Skove seconded the motion.
Mr. Bowerman stated he had hoped to be able to deal with this
in a reverse manner, i.e. change the conditions of approval to
make them reflect the consensus of the Commission. There was
some agreement indicated with this idea, but there was confusion
as.to how this could be.accomplished.
In response to Ms.Diehl's statement regarding the possibility
of the Commission reviewing this proposal again, Ms. Scala
stated the Commission would not see the proposal again if
approved at this time.
There being no further discussion,.the motion to deny the
Federal Express Site Plan was unanimously approved.
In response to the applicant's inquiry as to what he needed to do
to have his proposal approved, Mr.. Bowerman stated Ms.. Diehl
had stated this in her motion for denial, i.e. a cul-de-sac
as shown with an egress only from the applicant's site with
some sort of ingress representing what the Board of Supervisors
had approved for the service road. The applicant emphasized
he did not control the other property and indicated he did
not know how he would be able to meet this condition_. Mr.
Payne stated there was a public easement across the other
properties. The applicant disagreed that such an easement
existed. Mr. Bowerman advised the applicant to discuss the
matter further.:Tith staff.
SP-84-69 Jesse Bloodworth - Request to locate a single wide
mobile home on 11.88 acres, zoned RA, Rural Areas. Property,
described as Tax Map 71, Parcel 45A, has one existing single family
dwelling and is located on the west side of Route 635, ±1/2 mile
south of its intersection with State Route 64, ±3/10 mile north
of its intersection with .Route 688. Samuel Miller Magisterial
District.
Ms. Scala gave the staff report. She also stated several objections
had been raised to this proposal, and one letter of support had
been received.
Mr. Bowerman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Benjamin Dick, representing the applicant, addressed the
Commission. He stated he had received two more letters of
support and submitted those to the Commission. He stated the
proposed location of the mobile home was heavily wooded and
indicated it would .not be visible most of the year. He stated
the mobile home would be occupied by the applicant's aging parents.
He explained the proposed location was important for several
reasons: (1) It was adjacent to a paved driveway; (2) It
is close to the main home but still at a distance which allows
the main house some privacy; (3) The location affords an
attractive view.
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Mr. Dick continued, stating he did not feel the septic field
would create a problem for neighboring lots since the slope of
the land would cause the drainage to be away from these lots.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. John Wolfe, a resident of the neighborhood, addressed the
Commission and stated his opposition to the proposal because
he felt the mobile home would not fit in with the surrounding
property values and would lower the value of the surrounding
homes. Mr. Wolfe indicated he was opposed to mobile homes in
all settings except mobile home parks.
There being no further public comment the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Ms. Diehl stated she had visited the property and even though
it was wooded, she felt there might be a location within the
applicant's.property which would be more acceptable to surrounding
property owners. .
Mr. Cogan stated he would not be in favor of locating the trailer
at the proposed site, but he indicated he would have no objection
if the location were changed to one of the two alternative sites
shown on the applicant's map. Mr. Cogan was concerned about
how the trailer would be used after the deaths of the applicant's
in-laws, i.e. would it become a rental unit.
It was indicated the Commission would be in favor of a location
in the vicinity of the westernmost site as shown as an alternative
on the applicant's map.
Mr. Cogan moved that SP-84-69 for Jesse Bloodworth be recommended
to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following
conditions:
1. The mobile home must be located at an alternative site
marked by a circled "X" on a plat submitted by the
applicant. Said location is described as south of the
frame dwelling and west of the primary site for the
mobile home, or in close proximity thereto, but in no
case shall it be located farther east than the marked
alternative site.
2. Compliance with Section 5.6.2 of the Zoning Ordinance.
3. Location and screening of mobile home to the reasonable
satisfaction of the Zoning Administrator.
Mr'. Wilkerson seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
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VEPCO Hollymead Substation Site Plan and Final Plat - located
south of the intersection of Route 649 and .Route 29'North on a
private road southwest of the Springfield Development. Proposal
to locate an electric substation on a 6.72 acre parcel. Zoned
R-1, Residential. Tax Map 32 Parcel 37. Rivanna Magisterial
District.
Ms. Joseph gave the staff report for the site plan.
Mr. Bowerman invited applicant comment.
Mr. Bill Perkins, representing VEPCO, addressed the Commission
and stated the applicant would .have no trouble meeting the
staff's conditions.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Ms. Joseph confirmed the wooded areas around the substation would
be preserved and staff was satisfied with the landscaping plans.
Mr —Wilkerson moved that the VEPCO Hollymead Substation Site Plan
be approved subject'to the conditions of staff as follows:
1. Approval of this plan is subject to :
a. Issuance of an erosion control permit;
b. Approval of entrance by Virginia Department of
Highways & Transportation;
C. Planning staff approval of technical items as listed
below:
1. Most current deed book.
2. Magisterial District..
3. Note bearing on southeast corner.
4. Topographic information.
5. Datum reference.
6. Right-of-way lines, width, centerline, proposed
right-of-way lines.
7. Centerline curve data.
8. Location, size, type culvert size of ingress/egress.
9. Show acreage.
Mr. Cogan seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Ms.. Joseph then gave the staff report for the final plat.
Mr. Perkins, representing VEPCO, addressed the Commission and asked
if it would be possible to add a second page to the .plat which
would show the easement going out to Rt. 649, with the signature
on the plat carrying over to page 2.
Mr. Payne confirmed that this would be acceptable.
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There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Ms. Diehl moved that the VEPCO Hollymead Substation Final Plat
be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Planning staff approval of technical items as listed below:
a. Names and addresses of record holders.
b. Names of surveyor, number of sheets.
c. Vicinity map (111 = 20001).
d. Existing zoning and proposed uses.
e. Deedbook reference of instrument whereby parcel was
created.
f. Tax map and parcel number.
g. Notarized owner's approval statement and signature.
h. Signature panels for chairman, Planning Commission
and agent, Board of Supervisors.
2. Establish to reasonable satisfaction of County Attorney the
existence of easement.
Mr. Skove seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
VEPCO Cash's Corner Substation Site Plan and Final Plat - Located
3,100 feet north of the intersection of Route 231 and Route 615.
Proposal to locate an electrical substation on .72 acre. Zoned
RA, Rural Areas. Tax Map 50, Parcel 45. Rivanna Magisterial
District.
Ms. Joseph gave the staff report for the site plan.
Mr. Bill Perkins, representing VEPCO, was present.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Mr. Cogan moved that the VEPCO Cash's Corner Substation Site Plan
be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Issuance of an erosion control permit.
2. Virginia Department of Highways & Transportation approval
of commercial entrance.
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
Ms. Joseph then gave the staff report for the final plat.
There being neither applicant nor public comment, the matter was
v placed before the Commission.
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Mr. Gould moved that the VEPCO Cash's Corner Substation Final
Plat be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. The plat recordation approval is subject to:
a. owner's signature on plat.
Mr. .Wilkerson seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
The meeting recessed at 9:10.p.m.; reconvened at 9:25 p.m.
Note: Mr. Wilkerson did not return after the recess.
Precision Performance Auto Repair Site Plan The applicant
was not present, though Ms. McCulley confirmed he had been
notified both by letter and by phone.
it was moved and seconded that the Precision Performance Auto Repair
Site Plan be deferred until December 11.
Mr. Payne pointed out this business was already in operation
and suggested to the Commission that they might wish to indicate
to the Zoning Administrator what action, if any, the Commission
would favor . ,
in light of this information, Mr. Bowerman expressed surprise
that the applicant was not present.
It was determined the Zoning Administrator was aware of the
situation.
The motion to defer the matter until December 11 was unanimously
approved.
It was determined to allow the Zoning -Administrator to use his
own discretion in handling this matter. It was agreed that if
the operation of the business constituted a public hazard,,it should
be dealt with immediately, but if no public or environmental.
hazard exists, the Commission indicated they would have no ob-
jection to the Zoning Administrator deferring action until
December 11.
it was determined that if the applicant was not present at
the December 11 meeting, the application would be automatically
denied.
A.T.-Williams oil Company - Wilco Revised Site Plan located north
of Interstate Route 64 on the north side of Route 250 just west
of new Route 20. Proposal to move convenience store to the rear
of the site, provide additional parking and construct an over-
head shelter for gasoline pumps. Zoned Cl, Commercial. Tax
Map 78, Parcel 3. Rivanna Magisterial District.
Ms. McCulley gave the staff report.
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In answer to Mr. Bowerman's inquiry, Ms. McCulley stated the
set -back in the Cl zone was determined by adjacent properties.
Mr. Artie Williams, the applicant, addressed the Commission.
He stated the current proposal to change the arrangement of
the convenience store and the gas pumps was being made in order
to eliminate parking confusion on the lot and to improve the
traffic flow within the lot. He stated the business currently
operates on a septic tank/we-ll system and the new arrangement
would result in less usage of the restrooms since they would be
relocated inside the store. Mr. Williams added that his company
also owns the property behind the current business. He concluded
by saying that all trees would remain or would be replaced if
damaged during construction.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the
Commission.
Mr. Bowerman stated he was in favor of public sewer being extended
to the property.
Mr. Williams stated his company also owns the property to the
corner (where public sewer exists). He said $25,000 has already
been spent to get the sewer across the street. He further
stated it is his company's plan to develop the other property (sell it)
and gradually move the sewer line up to the existing location.
However, he felt to extend the line at this time would be a
burden,since it would allow the new owners of the other property
(after it is sold) to reap the benefits of the sewer line without
having shared in its cost.
Mr. Cogan pointed out installing the sewer line would make the
other properties more valuable to Mr. Williams' company.
Referring to staff recommendation 2(b)--Connection to public water
and sewer, if deemed reasonably available by the Planning
Commission --Mr. Bowerman stated he felt public sewer was reasonably
available. Mr. Cogan and Ms. Diehl indicated their agreement with
this.
Mr. Skove moved that the A.T. Williams Oil Company - Wilco Revised
Site Plan be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. A building permit will not be issued until the following
conditions have been met:
a. Fire Official approval of special construction measures
for building closer than 15 feet to the property line;
b. Issuance of fuel tank permits;
2. A certificate of occupancy will not be issued until the
following conditions have been met:
a. Fire Official final approval of fireflow;
b. Service Authority approval of public sewer connection;
c. Planting or bonding new landscaping.
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Mr. Gould seconded the motion which was unanimously approved.
OLD BUSINESS - Mary Joy announced the County Employees' Christmas.
Dance was scheduled for Friday,Nov. 30, Fry Springs Beach Club.
$15 for dinner and dance and reservations needed to be made by
9:00 a.m. November 21.
NEW BUSINESS - Mr. Cogan distributed a draft of a letter to be
sent to the Board of Supervisors in response to Mr. Lindstrom's
former letter suggesting the formation of a Committee to review
planning procedures.
Mr. Cogan stated he felt it was necessary to determine thsobjectives
of the Commission before a committee was formed. He felt that such
a committee would need to have some direction as to where problems
exist in order for it to be productive. He stated staff was
planning to submit to the Commission on December 11 an outline of
how the individual processes work.
Mr. Skove stated his feeling that Mr. Lindstrom had suggested more
of a management study than a technique study. Mr. Bowerman in-
dicated he agreed with this and suggested the addition of a paragraph
to Mr. Cogan's letter which would deal with a management study.
Mr. Cogan was agreeable to this and stated he was merely trying
to arrive at a starting point which could be expanded into other
areas later.
It was agreed that there had been several different interpretations
of Mr. Lindstrom's letter.
Mr. Bowerman stated his feeling that perhaps the Commission is
the least qualified to narrow down the subject matter since they
deal with it on a daily basis, and by having a general statement
at the beginning of the study, the Committee would then have to
determine in which direction to go, and this would involve a.
great deal of time. He said Mr. Cogan's letter was an attempt
to give the Committee a start.
It was agreed an additional paragraph would be added to the letter
and would be finally reviewed at the Nov. 27 meeting.
Mr. Bowerman asked if there was some question as to whether or not
the Commission would consider hearing a Zoning Text Amendment other
than on its regular 6-month schedule. No one was familiar with
this issue.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
James R. onnell , 'S retary
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