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AUGUST 3, 1993
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, August 3, 1993, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Phil Grimm, Chairman; Mr. William
Nitchmann; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Mr. Tom Blue; Ms. Ellen
Andersen; and Ms. Babs Huckle. Other officials present
were: Mr. Bill Fritz, Senior Planner; Mr. Ron Keeler, Chief
of Planning; Mr. David Benish, Chief of Community
Development; and Mr. Jim Bowling, Deputy County Attorney.
Absent: Commissioner Johnson
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of July
13, 1993 were approved as submitted.
SP-93--19 John Alford - Petition to construct a footbridge in
the floodplain of the Moorman's River [30.3.5.2.1(2),
30.3.5.2.2(1), 30.5.5.2d(6)]. Property, described as Tax
Map 26, Parcel 12 is located on the south side of Route 614
approximately 400 feet west of Route 674 in the White Hall
Magisterial District. This site is not located in a
designated growth area (Rural Area III). Deferred from the
July 13, 1993 Commission Meeting.
Mr. Fritz distributed a copy of a letter from Mr. Fred
Landess which stated that the Scenic Streams Committee had
no concerns about the request.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to conditions.
Mr. Blue asked if the applicant, or a previous owner, had
ever requested approval of a vehicle crossing. Mr. Fritz
replied that there had been a request on an adjacent
property but there was no history of a request for a
vehicular crossing on this property.
Mr. Blue asked if staff had any information on the
dimensions of the bridge. (He assumed it would be high
enough to clear the floodplain.) He calculated, based on
what was upstream, that a height of at least 6 feet would be
necessary. Mr. Fritz replied: "That's likely what it will
be. is He's already got, by using the bank, some elevation.
Mr. Blue felt the proposed location was a good one from a
canoeist standpoint.
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Ms. Huckle wondered about the choice of facade treatment.
Mr. Fritz explained that the applicant had chosen a facade
which would blend with his existing house.
The applicant, Mr. John Alford, was present and offered to
answer Commission questions. He stated he would be using
the existing parking area, with no enlargement planned. In
answer to Ms. Huckle's question, he explained that he lives
on the property, "full-time."
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Blue moved,
SP-93-19 for John Alford
Supervisors for approval
conditions:
seconded by Mr. Jenkins, that
be recommended to the Board of
subject to the following
1. Department of Engineering approval of bridge design to
ensure that no portion of the span is within the floodplain
elevation.
2. County Engineer approval of bridge modification
consistent with Section 62.1-194.2 of the Code of Virginia,
if necessary.
3. County Engineer approval of bridge and construction
activity in floodplain in accordance with 30.3 Flood Hazard
Overlay District of the Zoning Ordinance.
4. Compliance with all local, state and federal permit
requirements pertaining to disturbance of a perennial
stream.
The motion passed unanimously.
Redfields Recreation Center Ma'or Site Plan Amendment -
Modification under Section 4.12.6.5(c) (to allow for
parallel parking) and reduction in setback required under
Section 5.1.16(a) of the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval of both modifications. Mr. Keeler pointed out that
the request could have been approved administratively were
it not for the modifications.
Mr. Keeler called attention to a letter from Dr. Ian
Stevenson (adjoining property owner) which expressed
concerns about noise, lighting, hours of operation,
screening, traffic, and possible future enlargement.
Addressing one of Dr. Stevenson's concerns, Mr. Keeler
explained that the pool will be for the use of Redfields
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residents only and will not be open to the general public.
(Mr. Blue pointed out that parking would not be adequate for
public use.)
In answer to Ms. Huckle's question, Mr. Keeler stated no
lifeguard could be required. Mr. Keeler added that a land
use ordinance could not cover "every aspect of human life."
The applicant, Mr. Gayland Beights, addressed the
Commission. He offered to answer Commission questions.
Regarding hours of operation, he explained the recreation
center will be dedicated to the homeowners' association
which will deal with those types of issues. He noted that
the use will be seasonal and felt it unlikely that there
would be much after -dark usage. He added that it is
required that lighting be shielded from roadways and
neighbors. He explained that the plans for the recreational
amenities had been changed to meet the wishes of the current
Redfields homeowners. It is felt that the pool will be
accessed from hiking and biking trails and that 15 parking
spaces will be adequate. He pointed out that the site is
very "tight" because of the location of various utility and
drainage easements. Regarding Dr. Stevenson's request for a
row of evergreens on the east side of the recreation center,
he asked that he not be required to block the view of the
open-air pavilion from the road as that serves as an
illustration of the quality of the development. He pointed
out that once the lots across the street have been developed
Dr. Stevenson's view of the recreation center should be
blocked by a double row of houses.
In answer to Ms. Andersen's question about whether other
sites had been considered, Mr. Beights explained that the
recreation center must be completed before the second phase
of development can begin. There is no other property
available in phase 1. Regarding the possibility of building
the pool in the next phase of development, he pointed out
that the 47 current homeowners expect the pool to be
constructed now.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Dr. Ian Stevenson addressed the Commission. He repeated the
concerns noted in his letter (as described above). He also
expressed concern about the anticipated disturbance to his
horses and the possibility of trespassers. He preferred
that the recreation center be moved "far back" from his
residence and also from the Redfields residences. He asked
that restrictions be placed on the lighting and noise
levels. He noted that control of the recreation center
would ultimately be in the hands of the homeowners who might
not be as conscientious as Mr. Beights. He did not think
the houses would serve to block his view of the recreation
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center as described by Mr. Beights. He was "almost certain"
he would still be able to see the area.
In response to Ms. Andersen's question, Mr. Beights
confirmed that the entire development could have access to
the pool. He noted, however, there is always the
possibility there could be other recreation areas (and
pools) in other phases.
Ms. Andersen asked if the ultimate size of the development
had been taken into consideration when determining the
parking requirement. Mr. Keeler explained that the pool has
a "practical limit" and the parking requirement is based on
the surface area of the pool.
Ms. Margaret Stevenson addressed the Commission. She noted
that the development will ultimately have 600 units which
could cause considerable pressure on the recreation area.
Regarding restrictions on sound levels, Mr. Keeler stated
that the sound limitations of the Ordinance (.e. no greater
than 40 decibels at the nearest property line) are
applicable 24 hours per day and "it is a lower sound level
than the police enforce at night."
For the benefit of Dr. Stevenson, Mr. Keeler read the notes
addressing sound and lighting limitations which appear on
the plan. He also pointed out the recreation center is
restricted to non-commercial recreational structures and
uses.
In response to Mr. Blue's question about the possibility of
requiring further recreational areas in the future phases of
the development, Mr. Keeler explained that this type
development has no recreational requirements since the
dwellings will have yards. However, because recreational
area was shown on the zoning plan, it is required here. He
added: "But as to the nature of it, what they do in the
recreation area, that was voluntary on the part of the
applicant to show it as recreation, and so the facilities we
viewed as being voluntary." He stated that because the
timing of the recreation area was part of a condition in the
zoning, any change to the timing would require the approval
of the Commission and the Board.
In response to Mr. Jenkins' questions, Mr. Keeler pointed
out the area where Dr. Stevenson was requesting evergreen
screening. Mr. Jenkins suggested the developer might
voluntarily plant "some trees in that far corner" of the lot
most directly in line with Dr. Stevenson's view.
In response to Ms. Hackle's question, Dr. Stevenson stated
he objected to having the pavilion in his line of sight. He
said he was not familiar with the proposed design of the
structure. Ms. Huckle felt the description did not sound as
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if the structure would be unsightly. Dr. Stevenson said his
primary objection was to noise and lighting.
In response to Ms. Andersen's questions, Mr. Keeler
explained that it is the need for an additional 3 feet (from
an existing dwelling on an adjoining property)--122 feet is
present, but 125 feet is needed --and an additionl 5 feet
(from the nearest property line)--70 feet is present, but 75
feet is needed --which causes the request for the
modifications.
Regarding the parking modification, it was noted that 8
spaces are possible without a modification. Allowing the
parallel parking will allow the 15 spaces which are
required.
It was noted that a "clubhouse -type facility and planning
field" were originally anticipated on the site in question.
Mr. Blue felt it was reasonable to conclude that the change
to the pool would actually decrease the nuisance level to
both the Stevensons and the residents of Redfields.
Mr. Grimm pointed out that the present proposal is a more
seasonal type use.
Mr. Blue felt the modifications requested were minor.
Though he was sympathetic to Dr. Stevenson's concerns, he
noted that they were issues which had arisen with the
original subdivision and were not a part of this
consideration.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
MOTION: Mr. Blue moved that the Redfields Recreation Center
Major Site Plan Amendment be approved. Ms. Huckle seconded
the motion.
Discussion:
Ms. Andersen asked if the homeowners' association could, at
some future time, limit the number of users of the facility
if it is found that it is not large enough to serve future
phases of development. Mr. Bowling responded: "It depends
on how he sets up his homeowner's agreement." Mr. Keeler
added that the homeowners could always add additional open
space and recreational areas (subject to County approval).
Ms. Huckle noted that it is difficult to predict how many
people will actually use the pool.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
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Review of Planning Commission Draft Recommendations to the
Board of Supervisors on the Neighborhood 3 Stud
Mr. Benish reviewed revisions made to the Neighborhood 3
Study as a result of the Commission's recommendations.
The Commission reaffirmed it's intent to forward the
document to the Board for comment before scheduling it for
public hearing.
Mr. Nitchmann stated the revisions addressed all his
previous concerns.
MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved, seconded by Mr. Jenkins, that
the Neighborhood 3 Study be forwarded to the Board of
Supervisors.
The motion passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. Nitchmann requested that staff arrange for a
decibel -level demonstration or present some information as
to what types of sounds generate certain decibel levels.
The Commission was also interested in the history of how the
40 decibel limitation had been arrived at.
Mr. Grimm suggested a field trip to visit the sites of the
proposed roads for the Meadowcreek Parkway.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
8:15.
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