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AUGUST 24, 1993
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, August 24, 1993, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Walter Johnson, Vice Chairman; Mr.
William Nitchmann; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Ms. Ellen Andersen; and
Ms. Babs Huckle. Other officials present were: Mr. Ron
Keeler, Chief of Planning; Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of
Planning and Community Development; Mr. Bill Fritz, Senior
Planner; Ms. MaryJoy Scala, Senior Planner; Mr. Ken Baker,
Senior Planner; and Mr. George St. John, County Attorney.
Absent: Commissioners Blue and Grimm.
The Vice Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of July
27 and August 3 were approved as amended. (NOTE: It was
determined that approval of July 20 minutes had not yet
taken place. They were to be placed on the August 31
agenda.)
Mr. Cilimberg briefly reviewed Board of Supervisors Meetings
of August 4 and August 11.
CONSENT AGENDA
Pasture Fence Mountain A Forestal District
North ork Moorma 's River A Forestal District
Addition III to Sugar Hollow A Forestal District
Addition III to Kinloch A Forestal District
Review of Eastham A Forestal District
MOTION: Mr. Jenkins moved, seconded by Ms. Huckle, that the
applications for North Fork Moorman's River, Addition to
Sugar Hollow, Addition to Kinloch, and Pasture Fence
Mountain Ag/Forestal Districts be accepted. The motion
passed unanimously.
No action was required at this time on the Eastham District.
SP-93-21 CharlottesvilleZAlbemarle YMCA - Proposal to locate
a child care center [10.2.2(7)] on 5.016 acres zoned RA,
Rural Areas. Property, described as Tax Map 61, Parcel 6 is
located at the northwestern quadrant of Hydraulic Road/Lambs
Road intersection in the Jack Jouett Magisterial District.
This site is not located in a designated growth area (Rural
Area 1) .
The applicant had requested withdrawal.
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MOTION: Mr. Jenkins moved, seconded by Ms. Huckle, that the
applicant's request for withdrawal be accepted. The motion
passed unanimously.
ZTA - 93-04 Hydraulic Road Partnership - Proposal to amend
the C--1 Commercial, HC Highway Commercial, PD-SC, Planned
Development Shopping Center, PD-MC, Planned Development
Mixed Commercial and LI, Light Industry districts to permit
indoor athletic facilities as a use by -right.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. He noted that Mr. St.
John had amended the proposed definition slightly as
follows: "A building or structure in which are conducted
recreational, therapeutic, or athletic activities, whether
or not under construction...."
The staff report concluded: "The introduction of indoor
athletic facilities to the C-1 and HC districts is
consistent with the intent and permitted uses of those
districts. Staff is unable to support indoor facilities as
a use by -right in the LI district. Staff does support the
use by special use permit in the LI district to allow
evaluation of the appropriateness of the request in
particular locations. Staff also recommends that the use be
permitted in the CO district by special use permit.
Ms. Andersen questioned the use of the word "structure."
She asked for an exact meaning. She asked if a tent could
ever be considered a "structure." Mr. Keeler explained that
a structure is defined in the ordinance and is something
that is "permanently affixed to the ground." He did not
think a tent would meet that qualification, but stated the
Zoning Administrator would have to make that determination.
Mr. Fritz read the following definition of structure from
the Ordinance: "Anything that is constructed or erected,
the use of which requires permanent location on the ground
or attachment to something having a permanent location on
the ground. This includes, among other things, dwellings,
buildings, etc. For the purpose of determination of
setback, signs shall be excluded as a structure." Mr.
Keeler later explained that structure is used throughout the
Ordinance and is "classic zoning definition language."
Ms. Huckle asked if a tent could qualify as a structure if
it was attached to a concrete slab. Again, Mr. Cilimberg
explained that would be a determination for the Zoning
Administrator to make. Mr. St. John (later in the
discussion) explained that the concrete slab would be a
structure, but the tent would not. He stated: "The
definition of structure, in my mind, excludes tents. A tent
is not a permanent structure attached to the ground--"
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Regarding the staff report's recommendation to delete the
health spa use, Mr. Fritz explained that it was later
decided that that use should be retained for the time being
because advertising for the ZTA had not included the
deletion of the health spa use.
Mr. Johnson asked that staff again explain why staff was
separating LI and CO (by special permit) from C1 and HC
(by -right). Mr. Fritz explained that C1 and HC encompass a
wide variety of by -right commercial service and retail uses
and an indoor athletic facility is consistent with those
uses in terms of intensity, land area, parking, traffic
generation, etc. However, the CO district is intended to
serve as a buffer between higher density commercial and
residential districts and is not a service or retail
district. LI districts are intended primarily as employment
centers, and also are not service or retail districts.
However, the Comprehensive Plan indicates that "certain
supportative commercial and recreational facilities are
appropriate in industrial districts and therefore there may
be occasions in an industrial district where an indoor
athletic facility may be appropriate and the only way to
address that is by special permit. If it were by -right, it
could go in areas by that may not be appropriate due to the
nature of traffic or the character of the district." (NOTE:
Mr. Fritz repeated this explanation several times throughout
the Commission's discussion of the request.)
Mr. Nitchmann expressed some concern about allowing these
facilities in Planned Unit Developments since those
developments include residences. Mr. Fritz explained that
planned developments include a mix of uses. Mr. Cilimberg
added that if a proposal for this type use was added to a
planned development after it had been approved, it would be
subject to review because it would involve an amendment to
the PUD. The uses, and locations of those uses, in a
planned development are usually defined as part of the
application. Mr. St. John noted that it is more difficult
to obtain an approval to amend a PUD than an approval of a
special permit.
The applicant was represented by Mr. George McCallum. He
explained that the request had arisen from the applicant's
desire to add two squash courts to an existing facility
located on Hydraulic Road between Lamb's Road and the Rock
Store. He asked that the use be by -right in the LI district
(rather than by special permit as supported by staff).
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
In response to Mr. Nitchmann's request, Mr. Fritz again
explained staff's analysis of the request and the reason for
recommending the use by special permit in the LI and CO
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districts. (See explanation above and staff report filed
with these minutes.)
Referring to today's emphasis on health, including the
County's interest in promoting good health among it's
employees, Mr. Nitchmann viewed this use as one which is
directly related to the promotion of good health. He
wondered if it should be by -right in the CO district. Mr.
Fritz pointed out that if it were to be by -right, and the
proposal can meet all the requirements of the Ordinance,
then the County has no choice other than approval. He felt
there would be many instances of CO adjacent to residential
districts, which could result in an athletic facility in
close proximity to residences. Allowing it by special
permit provides for an additional review to insure that
there are no negative impacts.
Ms. Andersen expressed support for staff's recommendation,
i.e. that the use be by -right in the C1 and HC, but by
special permit in the LI and CO.
Ms. Huckle cautioned against creating some of the problems
which some neighborhoods adjacent to athletic facilities are
currently experiencing.
MOTION: Mr. Jenkins moved that ZTA-93-04 for Hydraulic Road
Partnership be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for
approval as presented by staff (with amendment by Mr. St.
John) and with the understanding that the health spa
question would be addressed at a later time.
Ms. Andersen seconded the motion; the motion passed
unanimously.
ZT -9 -05 John and Carolyn Pflug - Proposal to amend Section
32.2.1a to raise the number of units permitted on a single
parcel before a site plan is required from 2 to 5.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. The report concluded:
"Staff can identify no public purpose to be served by this
Zoning Text Amendment. The requirement of a site plan for
three (3) of more units on a single parcel ensures minimum
necessary improvements and compliance with the public
health, safety and welfare provisions of the Zoning
Ordinance. Waiver of a site plan can still be requested,
exempting the submittal from the complete site plan
submittal standards, but retaining review of the proposal
for health, safety and welfare provisions."
Mr. Fritz read a memorandum from Mr. Keeler, dated August
17, 1993. It was Mr. Keeler's opinion that "adoption of
this proposed zoning text amendment without other amendment
to both the zoning ordinance and subdivision ordinance
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would, in my opinion, result in arbitrary and discriminatory
regulation. That is to say, the text amendment standing
alone discriminates as to ownership and is arbitrary as to
dwelling unit type."
Mr. Fritz also read Mr. Jack Kelsey's (County Engineer
Department) memorandum of July 14, 1993. The letter
explained: "By changing the site plan requirement criteria
to five lots, there will be roads within the County that are
providing public service which have neither been verified
nor required to upgrade to State/County standards. These
roads will be potentially: unsafe for travel and hazardous
to the public; inaccessible for emergency vehicles, limiting
the ability to provide emergency medical and fire
suppression services; and these roads may be subject to
ditch and embankment erosion, contributing to the siltation
and pollution of our streams. This text amendment will be
in direct conflict with the responsibilities charged to the
County by the State Code. Therefore, the Engineering
Department recommends denial of this request for zoning text
amendment." Mr. Fritz stated staff agreed with these
comments.
The applicant was represented by Mr. George McCallum. He
explained the applicants' wish to create a village
("Headquarters Farm Antiquarian village"), under common
ownership, made up of classic Virginia/North Carolina
mountain cabins (log and stone)... scattered on the site at
suitable locations where slopes are conducive ... to be leased
on a long-term basis. The applicants feel part of the
attractiveness of the village will be the setting of the
cabins (nestled in the hillside), accessed by primitive
roads.
It was Mr. McCallum's understanding that a 3rd dwelling
causes the requirement that the road be built to public road
standards. Mr. Fritz explained: "What's required is that
the private road provisions of the subdivision ordinance
come into account. It would not be until the subdivision
occurs that any analysis of public vs. private road would
occur. But the road would have to be built to the private
road provisions for any road serving 3 to 5 lots. The
analysis of public vs. private to serve those units would
not occur unless a subdivision was occuring."
Mr. McCallum seemed to be somewhat confused. He explained
that the proposal here is not to do a subdivision. Mr.
Fritz explained: "In Mr. Pflug's case, because of the
number of units and the road serving that, the road standard
would be to VDOT standards; it would be, in essence, a
public road." It was determined there are already existing
buildings on the property. Mr. Fritz explained that after
6 dwellings, the County's road standards are the same as the
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VDOT standards (for mountainous terrain), so even though the
road would be private, it would be built to VDOT standards.
In response to Ms. Huckle's statement that the applicant
could request a waiver to allow private roads, Mr. Fritz
explained that there could be no waiver request because no
subdivision will occur. He added that with only one
property owner, the proposal "would not even be eligible for
public roads." He again explained that an analysis of
public vs. private roads would be made at the time a
subdivision occurred.
Mr. Keeler added that if this were a private road
subdivision the County could require a maintenance
agreement, and, at a minimum, require that the roads were
accessable to emergency vehicles. However, the County
cannot specify to what level a private road is maintained.
Mr. St. John cautioned against focusing discussion on one
piece of land. He pointed out that the zoning text
amendment would apply county -wide. He wanted the Commission
to understand clearly that the applicant's motive in taking
this approach is to be able to construct a less expensive
road, but the approval of this request could apply to any
property in the County. Mr. St. John expressed concern
about the applicant's approach because since it is not being
called a subdivision (i.e. it will remain under one
ownership and properties will be leased on a long-term
basis), it is not subject to subdivision review, but the
impact is the same.
Mr. Johnson wondered if some distinction might be made
between driveways and roads which would allow the applicant
to achieve the aesthetic quality that is desired. Mr.
McCallum explained that some other approaches had been
considered but it does not appear that the Zoning Ordinance
will allow the applicant to "achieve what he wants to do."
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Nitchmann wondered if the applicant had been made aware
of all the ramifications of this proposal. Mr. Fritz
explained the applicant had been well aware that "he was
facing a very difficult task."
Mr. Nitchmann could see no public good to be served by the
proposed amendment.
MOTION: Mr. Nitchmann moved that ZTA-93-05 for John and
Carolyn Pflug be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for
denial based on a feeling that the proposal does not serve
the better interests of the public at large, nor the county.
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Ms. Huckle seconded the motion.
of the request were momentous.
Discussion:
She felt the ramifications
Mr. Jenkins wondered how this proposal differed from the
Montfair proposal. Mr. Fritz explained that Montfair was
approved as a campground many years ago. Mr. Beeler
confirmed that if the applicant wished to do so he, too,
could request a campground and staff's review would be based
on that request. However, one of the main items which would
be considered would be the provision for emergency access.
Mr. St. John added that if Montfair were being proposed
today, it would have to go through the site plan process.
In response to Ms. Andersen's question, Mr. Fritz confirmed
that all possibilitites had been explored with the
applicant.
Mr. Johnson stated he would not support the request because
he felt the universal applicability of such a change would
adversely effect the County's charge to protect the
public health, safety and welfare.
The motion for denial passed unanimously.
WORK SESSION
CaRital Improvements Program
Mr. Baker briefly reviewed the CIP process.
The Commission requested that the County Executive's Office
make a 15 minute presentation at the August 31 meeting
describing (and answering questions about) the budget
process.
It was decided Commissioners would submit written questions
on Schools, Administration Costs and Libraries to staff by
the August 31 meeting (remaining questions to be submitted
to staff on September 9). Staff to answer first set of
questions at September 9 work session, second set at
September 14 work session.
Mr. Nitchmann questioned the "point" of prioritizing
projects (beyond those for which there is secure funding)
when there is no known source of funding and nothing the
Commission can do.
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Mr. Nitchmann asked for a progress report from the AHIP
Re-Hab program.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
9:40 p.m.
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