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MAY 5, 1992
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, May 5, 1992, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Phil Grimm, Chairman; Mr. Walter Johnson,
Vice Chairman; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Mr. Tom Blue; Ms. Ellen
Andersen; and Ms. Babs Huckle. Other officials present
were: Mr. William Fritz, Senior Planner; Mr. Wayne
Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development;
Ms. Yolanda Hipski, Planner; and Mr. Jim Bowling, Deputy
County Attorney. Absent: Commissioner Nitchmann.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of April
21, 1992 were approved as submitted.
ZMA-92-02 Virginia Land Trust & South 29 Land Trust -
Petition to amend the existing Hollymead PUD, Planned Unit
Development to permit 37 single family lots and 76 townhouse
units on 19 acres. Property, described as Tax Map 46B2,
Section 1, Parcels 1, 3 and 4, is located near Rt. 29 with
access to North and South Hollymead Drive in the Rivanna
Magisterial District. This site is located in a designated
growth area (Community of Hollymead) and is recommended for
Community Service.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to agreements with the applicant.
In response to Mr. Blue's question, Mr. Fritz confirmed that
Parcel 5 is already platted and dedicated to open space "all
the way to 29."
Mr. Johnson deduced that approximately 60% of the originally
+oned commercial property was being eliminated as a result
of this proposal (19 acres of an original 31.5 acres). He
asked why a Comprehensive Plan amendment was not needed
since the Plan shows the property for community service
usage. Mr. Cilimberg explained that issue had been
discussed extensively at staff level and it was felt that
"though it was the intent of the Plan to have neighborhood
service scale there, the PUD always showed more (than was
typically needed for convenience shopping and professional
service needs)." Mr. Blue added that the PUD had probably
shown what the developer "wanted ...and had nothing to do
with good planning at the time."
Mr. Johnson asked if the fiscal impact of the proposal
should be reviewed. Mr. Cilimberg explained that fiscal
impacts are reviewed where the number of dwelling units
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would be an increase over what is currently allowed
by -right, which is not the case here.
Mr. Johnson asked about VDOT recommendations for
improvements. It was discovered that Agreement No. 4 had
been erroneously omitted from the list of proposed
agreements. It was to be reinstated as follows:
"Improvements to North and South Hollymead Drive shall be in
accordance with recommendations as stated in the Virginia
Department of Transportation letter of March 23, 1992."
The applicant was represented by Mr. Steve Melton. He
stated the applicant was in agreement with the staff report.
He offered to answer questions.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Ms. Beth Vanda, an adjoining property owner, questioned the
feasibility of fitting 27 houses on the property. She also
expressed concerns about possible negative impact on
existing utility problems, i.e. power blackouts and water
pressure problems. She also expressed concerns about
increased traffic. She stated she found this plan to be
more acceptable for the property than previous plans.
It was determined lot sizes would be comparable to existing
lot sizes.
There being no further comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
The utility problems described by Ms. Vanda were discussed
briefly. Mr. Fritz noted that Virginia Power was aware of
the proposal and had offered no comment. Regarding water,
he stated that adequate fire protection will have to be
proven before final approvals are obtained. Mr. Fritz
offered to direct Ms. Vanda to the appropriate officials who
might be able to answer her questions about water pressure.
Mr. Fritz noted that the flow rate in the area is
substantial so the problems described by Ms. Vanda might be
related to the connection. He also explained that it is the
Service Authority who determines the needed flow and pipe
sizes and those items will have to be addressed before final
approvals are granted. Mr. Fritz stated he would make the
Service Authority aware Ms. Vanda's comments.
In response to Ms. Andersen's question, Mr. Cilimberg
explained how school enrollments are tracked in relation to
proposed new development.
Mr. Grimm stated he was in agreement with staff's
recommendation.
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Mr. Jenkins moved that ZMA-92-02 for Virginia Land Trust and
South 29 Land Trust be recommended to the Board of
Supervisors for approval subject to the following agreements
with the applicant:
1. Development shall be in general accord with plan titled
"Proposed Division of Parcels A, C-2, and D, Tax Map 46"
dated February 24, 1992.
2. Thirty (30) feet on the north sides of North Hollymead
Drive and Hollymead Drive shall be provided as open space
and shall contain an impervious pathway and landscaping.
3. Landscaping in the open space adjacent to North
Hollymead Drive and Hollymead Drive shall consist of not
less than a double staggered row of screening trees planted
15 feet on center.
4. Improvements to North and South Hollymead Drive shall be
in accordance with recommendations as stated in the Virginia
Department of Transportation letter of March 23, 1992.
5. Yards shall be provided as follows: front yard
(measured from road right-of-way or edge of access easement)
- 30 feet in depth; rear yard - 20 feet in depth; side yard
- 10 feet in depth.
6. Access to adjacent property to the south of the
townhouse development may be required at the time of site
plan review if determined practicable.
Mr. Blue seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mr. Johnson asked that the item be brought back to the
commission in the event it is determined that a problem does
exist with providing utilities to the area.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
SP-92-14 Geater & Emma J. Allen - Petition to locate a
single wide mobile home on 3.6 acres zoned RA, Rural Areas
[10.2.2(10)]. Property, described as Tax Map 128, Parcel 37
is located on the east side of Route 627 approximately 1.4
miles south of Rt. 6 in the Scottsville Magisterial
District. This site is not located within a designated
growth area (Rural Area 4).
Ms. Hipski presented the staff report.
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The applicant, Mr. Geater Allen, was present but offered no
additional comment. He was accompanied by his daughter Ms.
Imogene Allen.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Ms. Huckle asked if the mobile home could be located farther
back from the highway, given the fact that the site has been
cleared and will be visible from the road.
Mr. Blue had visited the site and commented that he felt the
proposed location was "as good a place as you'd find." He
stated that the unit will be "as well screened as the other
houses on the road." Ms. Hipski added that the property
"falls down hill" which may offer some screening from
adjacent properties.
Mr. Blue moved that SP-92-14 for Geater & Emma Allen be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject
to the following conditions:
1. Albemarle County Building Official approval.
2. Conformance to all area, bulk and other applicable
requirements for district in which it is located.
3. Skirting around mobile home from ground level to base of
the mobile home to be completed within thirty (30) days of
the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy.
4. Provision of potable water supply and sewerage
facilities to the reasonable satisfaction of the Zoning
Administrator and approval by the local office of the
Virginia Department of Health, if applicable under current
regulations.
5. Maintenance of existing vegetation, landscaping and/or
screening to be provided to the reasonable satisfaction of
the zoning administrator. Required screening shall be
maintained in good condition and replaced if it should die.
6. The mobile home shall be occupied only be Geater and
Emma Jean Allen or other family members.
Ms. Andersen seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mr. Johnson asked if the restriction against rental of the
mobile home would be removed if the Board determines that it
is not appropriate, i.e. will all previous restrictions on
rental be removed from all such permits. Mr. Cilimberg
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stated: "If the Board makes that decision, it will apply to
all those conditions that stand on any SP for mobile homes."
Mr. Johnson suggested the addition of another condition as
follows: "Moving hitch, wheels and axles and transportation
lights shall be removed." He felt this would "move this
object further from the trailer concept."
Ms. Hipski stated she had discussed this possibility with
Mr. Schlothauer (Department of Inspections) and he does not
recommend the removal of the wheels because that results in
the unit being no longer "mobile." Mr. Blue noted that the
requirement for skirting accomplishes the same purpose, i.e.
it hides the mobile features of the dwelling. Mr. Blue also
pointed out that there may be a tax issue involved. ( Mr.
Cilimberg explained that mobile homes are assessed as
personal property, though taxed as real estate. )
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
SP-92-22 Dale Wilberger (applicant), - Petition to permit
outdoor storage and display of autos, trucks and trailers
(30.6.3.2(b)] on 0.49 acres zoned HC, Highway Commercial and
EC, Entrance Corridor Overlay District. Property, described
as Tax Map 78, Parcel 57B, is located on the north side of
Rt. 250 west of and adjacent to the White House Motel in the
Rivanna Magisterial District. This site is located in a
designated growth area (Neighborhood 3) and is recommended
for Regional Service.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to conditions.
Mr. Johnson asked for a more specific description of the
grandfathered use. Mr. Fritz stated that a car sales
business existed on the property less than 2 years ago. Mr.
Johnson asked if the grandfathered usage also allowed the
automobiles to be displayed "in front." Mr. Bowling
stated: The applicant "has a right to do what was done
previously." Mr. Bowling recalled that the previous
business was a Volvo sales.
Mr. Bowling explained that the purpose of the special permit
was to allow for outdoor storage and display of autos. He
stated that such display would be regulated by the
Architectural Review Board.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that the property is zoned Highway
Commercial, which allows sales and service of vehicles
by -right and this item is being reviewed because it is in
the EC Overlay District which requires a special permit for
the outdoor storage component of the proposal. Though Mr.
Cilimberg expressed some confusion about Mr. Johnson's
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question, he explained that "if the outdoor storage was
grandfathered you would not be seeing this because it would
not be subject to a special use permit."
In response to Ms. Andersen's questions, it was noted that
the ARB had granted it's staff member administrative
approval of the request and a Certificate of Appropriateness
will have to be issued (by the ARB staff member) before the
use can commence.
In response to Ms. Huckle's question regarding the
conditions attached to the Certificate of Appropriateness,
Mr. Cilimberg explained that those conditions would have to
be met (not just agreed to) BEFORE the Certificate of
Appropriateness would be issued and before a final site plan
(if one is needed) can be approved.
There was some confusion about the meaning of the ARB's
comments, particularly No. 2 [Placing screening trees or
fence adjacent to the building to screen the U-Haul vehicles
for rental].
The Commission began to discuss the conditions imposed by
the ARB. Mr. Blue felt it would be helpful if the
Commission were provided with the same information the ARB
had used in making its recommendations (e.g. photos which
may have been viewed by the ARB). Mr. Cilimberg pointed out
that it was not the Commission's role to pass judgement on
the Certificate of Appropriateness, but rather to recommend
whether or not the use should be allowed. (That being the
case, Mr. Blue asked why the Commission was discussing the
ARB's conditions.)
Mr. Johnson stated: "But if we see something on here that
we don't like, from a non-conformance with the Entry
Corridor provisions, we, too, can make that comment, can we
not?" Mr. Cilimberg replied: "You can recommend that the
special use permit not be approved based on the features
that you see." Mr. Johnson asked: "Or condition it to some
feature, right?" Mr. Cilimberg replied: "The ARB has asked
the Planning Commission not add design conditions to special
use permit approvals because that is the function they have
been given. If you have a concern over the use based on its
impact to the Entrance Corridor, you should indicate what
the concern is and you should recommend accordingly. The
ARB has asked that conditions for design in the Entrance
Corridor be avoided unless the Board felt that they
absolutely had to have some particular kind of design
feature that was over and above the ARB's decision making."
Mr. Blue stated: "I assume we can't do the reverse either;
if we felt the ARB was perhaps being too strict that we
couldn't eliminate one of their conditions? We have already
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designated that power to them." Mr. Bowling interjected:
"With appeal rights to the Board of Supervisors."
Mr. Blue could not see any reason for the Commission to be
discussing the ARB's conditions since they had no power to
change the conditions. He felt such discussion was a waste
of time.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the Board of Supervisors has the
"final decision making on all elements, including the
Architectural Review Board's conditions, whereas you do not.
You are in a position to make a recommendation to the Board
of Supervisors in terms of whether you think the special use
permit should be issued or not and if you have a
concern —that (concern) should be noted in your statement
going to the Board." Mr. Cilimberg again explained that the
ARB has created conditions that will have to be met before
the Certificate of Appropriateness can be issued and the
Special Permit requires the issuance of the COA before the
use can commence.
Mr. Johnson stated: "But we can recommend a special use
permit with some additional conditions." Mr. Bowling
responded: "If they're design related, why do you have the
ARB. If you don't want the ARB, get rid of it, but don't
have two."
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the Commission could add
conditions that are health and safety related or it could
recommend that the use is not appropriate under any
circumstances.
In response to Ms. Huckle's question, it was determined the
screening trees are "to go all along the diagonal line ... to
the fence." No screening of the U-Haul vehicles in the
back is required because of the distance from Rt. 250 and
the nature of adjacent properties.
It was determined that the drawing reflected the
improvements that VDOT is currently making to Rt. 250. Mr.
Fritz stated that there would be room available for
landscaping.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Dale Wilberger. He
offered no additional comment.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
It was determined that a commercial entrance would be
constructed by VDOT as a part of their improvements.
Ms. Andersen moved that SP-92-22 for Dal Wilberger be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject
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to the following conditions and with the understanding that
all the ARB's conditions would have to be completed before
the commencment of business:
1. Use shall not commence until a Certificate of
Appropriateness is issued by the Architectural Review Board.
2. Storage areas shall be limited to those areas noted on
sketch dated 4/16/92 and initialled WDF.
Ms. Huckle seconded the motion.
Discussion:
There followed further discussion about the intent of the
ARB's condition related to the identification of the U-Haul
parking space, i.e. does the condition allow for a "marked"
U-Haul vehicle or does it just reserve that space as a
U-Haul parking space? Mr. Johnson wanted a condition to be
added so as to disallow the parking of a "marked" U-Haul
vehicle in the front of the building. He did not feel this
would be in conflict with the ARB's condition. Mr. Grimm
referred to the drawing which showed "one U-Haul van for
display" in the space referred to by Mr. Johnson. Mr. Fritz
stated that the ARB had seen the same drawing. Mr.
Cilimberg called attention to condition No. 2 (stated above
in the motion) which identified storage areas. He stated
that if the Commission was not satisfied, then that
condition would have to be changed. Mr. Johnson felt that
the "ARB has not said they can put a marked U-Haul vehicle
there, they have just reserved the space." Mr. Grimm felt
Mr. Johnson's suggestion would be in opposition to the ARB's
condition No. 4. (Mr. Johnson disagreed, though he admitted
he was "grasping at straws.") Mr. Grimm felt it was the
implied intent of the ARB's condition to allow a "marked"
U-Haul vehicle in that one space. Mr. Johnson disagreed and
stated "we are just compounding a felony as we go along; we
are never going to get 250 East squared away... if we don't
start somewhere, we will never get there."
Ms. Huckle asked how Mr. Johnson's concern could be
addressed in the conditions of approval. Mr. Cilimberg
suggested that No. 2 could have added at the end "...except
the space designated as 'One U-Haul Van for Display' shall
be eliminated."
Mr. Fritz confirmed that it was the ARB's intent to allow
"only one U-Haul van in front" and it was one which would
have the U-Haul logo painted on the side. He also confirmed
that the applicant was aware of, and agreeable to, this
condition.
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There was a brief discussion
deal with trucks which serve
to address this issue .
as to how the Sign regulations
as signs. Staff was not able
Mr. Blue did not see any reason to overrule the ARB's
decision to allow the one U-Haul vehicle in front. Mr.
Grimm agreed.
No change to the previously stated motion was offered.
Mr. Johnson stated he would oppose the motion "on the basis
that one truck is deleterious to the area and that could be
easily resolved."
Mr. Jenkins felt Mr. Johnson's comment about a "starting
point' was a valid one.
Mr. Grimm felt the proposal would result in a great
improvement to the existing conditions.
Mr. Cilimberg stated he would make the Board and ARB aware
of Mr. Johnson's concerns in relation to the U-Haul vehicle
and the ARB's condition related to that issue.
Mr. Blue felt that placing such a restriction on this
particular applicant would not cause any significant
improvement to RT 250 and could possibly harm the
applicant's business if the availability of the U-Haul
service was not apparent to passing public.
Mr. Grimm also noted that there are many other car
dealerships in this area with many vehicles displayed
outside and the vehicle in question was "only one more
vehicle in addition to the hundreds of cars which are
already there."
The motion for approval passed (5:1) with Commissioner
Johnson casting the dissenting vote.
SP-92-16 Scott W. Campbell a licant George A. Ragsdale
(owner) - Petition to establish auto sales and rental
(22.2.2(8)] on 1.6 acres zoned C-1, Commercial. Property,
described as Tax Map 61, Parcel 14B is located at the end of
and on the north side of Rt. 650 just east of Rt. 631 (Rio
Road) in the Charlottesville Magisterial District. This
site is located in a designated growth area (Neighborhood 2)
and is recommended for Neighborhood Service.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to conditions.
In response to Ms. Huckle's questions, Mr. Fritz described
the current status of the property. It was established that
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the only change from the existing
be the outdoor storage of vehicles
650/Gasoline Alley).
use of the property would
(adjacent to Rt.
It was determined that "Attachment C initialled WDF 4/10/92"
would be the "governing document" for this proposal, i.e. no
grading is proposed, but a landscape plan and lighting plan
will be required.
Mr. Johnson suggested that No. 4 be amended for
clarification purposes as follows: "Area for storage and
display of vehicles for sale or rent shall be limited to
that area approximately shown as "New Parking Area Addition"
on Attachment C initialled WDF 4/10/92."
Mr. Blue also suggested that the note on the Revised Site
Plan be corrected to refer to a 6 inches "depth" of stone
rather than 116 inch stone or larger."
The applicant was represented but offered no additional
comment. (Note: The applicant's representative did not
identify himself.)
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Johnson suggested that condition No. 5 (requiring a
commercial entrance) be deleted. He felt this was an
unnecessary restriction given the fact that there is plenty
of sight distance for all points.
There was a brief discussion of Mr. Johnson's suggestion.
Mr. Fritz stated that VDOT had indicated "there may or may
not (be adequate sight distance), it's too close to call."
He quoted from VDOT comments which stated that "depending
upon the entrance location, a sight easement could be needed
on the adjacent property." Mr. Cilimberg quoted further
from VDOT Comments: "They state: 'A commercial entrance
with adequate sight distance will be required for access to
this property.' If their saying that is establishing the
entrance --in other words for them to give a permit --then
really No. 5 is not necessary from a condition standpoint
but it will likely be required anyway. They've noted it
will be required and they issue the permit and we don't."
Mr. Blue noted that if the applicant chases to use the
existing entrance, then the commercial entrance does not
become an issue. Mr. Cilimberg comfirmed that was accurate.
Mr. Cilimberg also noted that staff has always followed
VDOT's recommendations in matters dealing with sight
distance.
It was the consensus of the Commission to delete No. 5.
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Ms. Andersen moved that SP-92-16 for Scott W. Campbell be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject
to the following conditions:
1. Staff approval of lighting plan and landscape plan.
2. No loudspeakers.
3. There shall be no flags, pennants, banners, streamers or
strings of lights.
4. Area for storage and display of vehicles for sale or
rent shall be limited to that area approximately shown as
"New Parking Area Addition" on Attachment C initialled WDF
4/10/92.
Mr. Johnson seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
CPA-92-03 Community Facilities Plan - County Government
Administration - Proposal to amend the Albemarle County
Comprehensive Plan to include the County Government
Administration section of the Community Facilities Plan.
The purpose of this section of the Community Facilities Plan
is to provide an evaluation of the office space needs for
County employees.
Mr. Benish briefly reviewed the revised plan.
Mr. Johnson suggested several additional changes which he
felt would "simplify and clarify" the proposed plan. (See
Attachment A to these minutes.)
There was a brief discussion about the term "space planner."
Mr. Johnson's suggestions included one that all references
to "independent space planners" be removed. Mr. Blue
indicated he understood the reasoning behind the
recommendation for an "independent evaluation" of needs, but
there was uncertainty as to the origin of the term "space
planner." Mr. Benish suggested that the term "independent
evaluation" be substituted for "space planner."
Mr. Johnson also suggested that the order of the Procedural
Strategies needed to be changed. Staff agreed with this
suggestion.
Mr. Johnson suggested that employees be solicited for their
opinions as to how their space might be better utilized with
some incentive program being developed.
Mr. Grimm called attention to an error (a missing word) on
page 2, No. 2.
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There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Jenkins moved that CPA-92-03 Community Facilities
Plan/County Government Administration Building be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval as
presented by staff May 5, 1992 with further consideration
being given to the additional comments of Mr. Johnson and
the Commission made at this meeting.
Mr. Johnson seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Johnson made the following recommendation in relation to
applications where the Commission is "being asked to bless"
a use that is already in existence.: "I would recommend
that staff look into the feasibility of including on all
pertinent documents, but specifically business licenses and
building permits, a statement which would read somewhat as
'Certified to be in full compliance with all applicable
zoning and special conditions.' This would appear above the
signature of the applicant. Hopefully, that would alert him
and others, at the time, that there may be some zoning
conditions that he has to comply with. . If he signed that
and then comes later and says 'I want this,' he could be
held in some kind of violation --of falseofficial (?)
statement or perjury or something --to try to put some teeth
into these things before the fact. Right now, time and time
again, an applicant, either wittingly or unwittingly, goes
merrily on his way violating the zoning ordinance without
even realizing it."
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out before building permits are issued
they must be cleared with the Zoning Department. He was
not familiar with the business license procedure because
that is not a part of the Planning Department's process.
Mr. Grimm reported that Enniscorthy has been placed on the
Virginia Historic Landmarks Register and nominated for the
National Register.
Resolution of Appreciation - Mr. Cilimberg reported that
former Commissioners Rittenhouse and Wilkerson would be
acknowledged at the May 12th meeting.
Mr. Johnson moved, seconded by Mr. Jenkins, that Resolutions
of Appreciation be adopted in honor of Keith Rittenhouse and
Butch Wilkerson. The motion passed unanimously.
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There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
9:15 P.M. I _
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MAY 0 4 1992
PLANNING DEPT,
Memorandum
To: Kenneth Baker ��
From: W. F. 3ohnsc,
Date: 5-�-4-92 !!!
Subj; CPA--92-03, Community Facilities Plan - County
Government Administration
The following changes to -the proposal forwarded 28 April are
respectfully submitted for your consideration:
PP2 Para 1. Office Space Needs: Determine by a detailed
study each department's space needs, (Comment,
simplification_ )
PP2 Para 2. Other Space Needs: Determine ,by a detailed
sturdy . anri l lrary -space needs, recognizing bath public and
employee The following should be considered:
large meeting/auditorium
interior office. meeting rooms
public area to review office material
(files, plats, plans, etc.)
- storage areas
(Comment, simplification)
PPS Para 1 line G: —structures shall be considered when,
locating to a new structure. tComment, as written, it is
inferred that the condition applies only to a newly
r_onstrurted building.)
PPS Para 5 line 8: —considered in addition to single story
building(s) for _ , (Comment, as written, single story
building are not to be considered, hardly an appropriate
condition in a planning document)
Comment: One section, of "Strategies" should be sufficient.
The modified "Service/Facitily Strategies" is believed to be
inclusive, leaving only the implementation to be defined as
"Recommendations".
"Service/Facility Strategies" should be followed by a
"Recommendation" section.
Recommendations: