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SEPTEMBER 1, 1992
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, September 1, 1992, Meeting Room 7,
County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those
members present were: Mr. Phil Grimm, Chairman; Mr. Walter
Johnson, Vice Chairman; Mr. William Nitchmann; Mr. Tom
Jenkins; Mr. Tom Blue; Ms. Ellen Andersen; and Ms. Babs
Huckle. Other officials present were: Mr. V. Wayne
Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development;
Mr. Ron Keeler, Chief of Planning; Mr. Bill Fritz, Senior
Planner; and Mr. David Benish, Chief of Community
Development.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of
August 11, 1992 and August 18, 1992 were approved as
submitted.
SP-92-54 Adventure Bound Owner Donna Frantzen (applicant)
- Petition to issue a special use permit to allow a boarding
camp [10.2.2(20)] on 33.6 acres zoned RA, Rural Areas.
Property, described as Tax Map 6, Parcels 24, 25B, 25B1 is
located in the southern corner of the intersection of
Blackwells Hollow Road (Rt. 810) and Boonesville Road (Rt.
687) in the White Hall Magisterial District. This site is
not located within a designated growth area (Rural Area 1).
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to conditions.
In response to Mr. Grimm's question as to the basis for the
change in the requested use (from rural retreat to boarding
camp), Mr. Fritz called attention to the Zoning
Administrator's letter dated August 3, 1992, which outlined
the justifications for the boarding camp designation.
Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Fritz to comment on suggested
condition No. 3, particularly all that appeared after the
first sentence. He questioned the feasibility of defining
some of the terms, e.g. "easily and inexpensively," and he
also questioned the purpose of the condition.
[NOTE: Condition No. 3 was proposed as follows: "No new
construction except for one new single-family structure
(location to be approved by staff). Modifications to
existing buildings and structures shall be undertaken in
such manner so as to easily and inexpensively convert such
buildings and structures to dwelling unit types (i.e. -
single family detached, duplex, etc.) or other structures
typically expected to accompany by -right uses (ex. barns) as
may be permitted by right in the specific zoning district."]
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Mr. Fritz responded: "The purpose behind that is that we
recognize that the site does have limited
agricultural -forestal uses and we don't want to continue
that or make it worse than it is. As far as enforceability,
these conditions were presented to the Zoning Administrator;
we did make some changes in some of them to provide
enforceable language but I do not believe that is one of the
conditions that we made revisions to."
Mr. Johnson wondered why restrictions against modifications
to existing buildings were being proposed. Mr. Fritz
responded: "We're recognizing that these buildings do have
limited agricultural or forestal use or limited potential.
We are not prohibiting any revisions, and there are going to
have to be some made to the building, but we don't want to
create a situation were we are moving even further away from
any potential agricultural forestal use."
Mr. Cilimberg noted that he felt Mr. Johnson's primary
concern was with the use of the term "easily and
inexpensively."
Mr. Fritz explained further that Condition No. 3 "echoes a
condition that would have been imposed by the language of
the Zoning Text Amendment that was subsequently
disapproved."
Also referring to condition No. 3, Ms. Huckle asked if there
was anything to prevent the future renting of structures
which might be converted to dwelling units. Mr. Fritz
responded: "If they are going to be pursuing a boarding
camp, if they are going to make use of this special use
permit, then Condition No. 7 [Not more than two dwelling
units shall be permitted.] applies. If they abandon the
special use permit, the boarding camp, then, obviously they
can convert to single family dwellings which they could even
if this special use permit is denied. That is one of the
options that is open to them." Ms. Huckle interpreted: "So
as long as they met the density, they are entitled to do
that." Mr. Fritz responded affirmatively.
The applicant, Ms. Donna Frantzen, addressed the Commission.
Regarding alterations to the property, she explained that
the building referred to as "the school" will have the
"interior division walls" taken down, woodwork replaced, and
the exterior will be finished. She stated: "But we have no
plan to make that into anything resembling a private
dwelling." She also explained that it would be very
difficult to turn either the school or the dormitory into a
private dwelling unit and though it might be possible, she
had no plans to make such rennovations. She explained that
the recreation building would be converted to a private
dwelling.
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The Chairman invited public comment.
Ms. Eleanor May, President of Adventure Bound School,
addressed the Commission. She expressed her support for the
proposal. She felt this was an acceptable use for the
property and would not be incompatible with the existing
neighborhood.
There being no further comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Nitchmann moved, seconded by Mr. Blue, that SP-92-54 for
Adventure Bound (owner), Donna Frantzen (applicant) be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject
to the following conditions:
[Note: Mr. Nitchmann's original motion was to recommend
approval with condition No. 3 amended so as to remove the
words "easily and inexpensively." Mr. Johnson again
expressed the feeling that all of condition No. 3 should be
deleted except for the first sentence. He did not think
restrictions should be placed on the modifications to the
structures. Mr. Nitchmann and Mr. Blue agreed to change the
motion accordingly.]
1. Food and lodging shall be provided only for boarding
camp participants. This provision shall not be deemed to
permit lodging or boarding of guests or transients not
participating in the boarding camp;
2. The maximum number of boarding camp participants and
residents at any given time shall not exceed a total
population of 34;
3. No new construction except for one new single-family
structure (location to be approved by staff);
4. Use shall not commence until approval for such use has
been obtained from the Albemarle County Fire Official. The
Fire Official shall thereafter inspect the premises at his
discretion;
5. Use shall not commence until approval of permit has been
obtained from the Bureau of Tourist Establishment Sanitation
of the Virginia Department of Health;
6. Not more than nine (9) rooms shall be available for
overnight guests;
7. Not more than two dwelling units shall be permitted;
8. Use shall not commence until approval for such use has
been obtained from the Albemarle County Building Official.
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Mr. Grimm noted that there had been no opposition to the
proposal in contrast to the overwhelming opposition to the
previously existing school.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
CPA-90-03 Amendment to the Land Use Plan Hollymead Wendell
Wood - Located west of Rt. 29N and south and east of Rt.
606 in the Hollymead Community. This request to amend the
Land Use plan for the Hollymead Community for approximately
125 acres west of Rt. 29 and south of Airport Road (Rt.
649). The proposed land use changes are from Industrial
Service to Regional Service, High Density Residential.
Mr. Benish presented the staff report. Staff was once again
recommending "denial of the request until the fiscal impact
model and analysis can be completed and a comprehensive
evaluation of the expansion of Hollymead can be undertaken."
In response to Mr. Blue's request, Mr. Benish pointed out
the location of another request (Towers Land Trust).
Regarding the applicant's possible participation in the
extension of public sewer to the airport (as had originally
been offered by the applicant), Mr. Benish explained that he
had not discussed this issue with the applicant. He noted
that the contract has been awarded for the sewer
construction and right-of-way is being acquired.
Mr. Blue noted that the plan did not reflect the staff
report's statement that the high density residential
designation had been moved outside the Airport Impact Area
Overlay. Mr. Benish explained that that change had occurred
after the plan was received and "was contingent upon Mr.
Wood's ability to do the mobile home park in the industrial
area."
In response to Mr. Nitchmann's question, Mr. Benish
explained why staff feels that this request should be
considered concurrently with the Towers request.
In response to Ms. Huckle's request, Mr. Benish pointed out
the proposed location of the mobile home park and also the
residential area.
Mr. Benish explained that, "conceivably," the request could
result in "commercial along the frontage, residential behind
that and all of this light industrial with the mobile home
park in this location." He explained that currently the
property is all zoned RA, with a Comprehensive Plan
designation for industrial service use.
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It was determined that the only change in the proposal which
the Board had not been aware of was the applicant's proposal
to keep the high density residential designation outside the
Airport Impact Area Overlay.
some commissioners expressed surprise that residential
zoning would be allowed within the Airport Impact Area.
Staff explained that the dwellings would have to meet
certain engineering criteria in terms of decibel levels from
inside the structure. Mr. Cilimberg noted that residential
designation had not been recommended for this area because
of the close proximity to the airport and the lack of
compatibility between the two types of use.
It was noted that approval of this request would result in
the removal of 45 acres (approximately 4%) from industrial
service designation and the accompanying loss of employment
opportunitites.
In response to Ms. Huckle's question, Mr. Wood stated 6
mobile homes could be placed on one (1) acre.
The applicant, Wendall Wood, addressed the Commission. He
explained the history of the application. His comments
included the following:
--Manufactured housing is the only way to meet the need
for affordable housing in the County.
--It is difficult to find acceptable property for a
mobile home park. This land is suitable because of it's
proximity to a major highway and employment and it has
public utilities.
--The mobile home park will be a "for -rent community."
--The decibel level in today's mobile homes will meet
engineering requirements.
--The applicant contributed $250,000+ towards the
construction of the airport sewer line and donated the
right-of-way.
--He offered to restrict access to Rt. 29 (along a mile
of frontage) to three points.
--Approximately 300 units are envisioned for the mobile
home park (6/acre).
--The request for commercial zoning is necessary to
make the mobile home aspect of the request financially
acceptable. (The applicant felt that the commercial request
should be granted as incentive for him to do the mobile home
park. He referred to the proposal as a "trade-off.")
--Approval of this request will allow the frontage of
Rt. 29 to develop in a planned, orderly fashion, which is
preferable to by -right development which would result in
strip development with multiple entrances onto Rt. 29.
--In response to Mr. Blue's question, Mr. Wood stated
he felt that the additional commercial development would be
needed to serve this area in the future.
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--Mr. Wood envisioned that the "airport road" will
become only a road to the airport in the future and the new
road will be used by persons from Earlysville wishing to go
south on Rt. 29 and will therefore be beneficial to the
County as well as the developer.
--In response to Ms. Huckle's questions regarding the
applicant's plans for the R-15 area, Mr. Wood explained that
he had agreed, in exchange for allowing the mobile home park
in the industrial area, to withdraw the request for the
permanent R-15 zoning. (Though Mr. Wood stated that R-15
zoning was necessary for a mobile home park, Mr. Cilimberg
explained that a mobile home park was possible in R-4
through R-15 zoning, by special use permit.) Mr. Wood
stated that if the mobile home park is not allowed in the
industrial area, then there is no choice but to request the
high density zoning because those are the only zones which
allow that type of use.
--Because of his investment in the sewer line, Mr. Wood
stated that he was forced to develop the property and if
this proposal is not approved, he will have no choice but to
develop the property by -right.
--Mr. Wood agreed that there was no need for further
commercial development on Rt. 29 at the present time and he
agreed to restrict the development of the commercial
property for ten years. He agreed that the current request
was "insurance" for the future, but he also felt it was good
planning.
Mr. Blue stated that the main issue of the request is to
determine if the need for affordable housing, in the form of
a mobile home park, justifies the trade-offs. He stated
that he was unsure, from Mr. Wood's statements, if he would
still be willing to do the mobile home park, outside the
industrial area, without anything in addition. Mr. Wood
responded to this question and stated "I would restrict it
to that, (a mobile home park)" provided the commercial area
was approved. However, he stated he would not move the
park out of the Airport Impact Area because it would not
leave enough commercial land.
Mr. Blue questioned whether by -right development of the
property (assuming the property could be rezoned to LI as
recommended in the Comprehensive Plan) would be profitable
for the applicant. Mr. Wood agreed it was "less attractive
than what (he) could wait for in the future." He repeatedly
stressed that he felt his current proposal would be a
benefit to the County because it would allow more control of
the property than currently exists.
In response to Mr. Jenkins' question, Mr. Wood anticipated
that the mobile home park would be under construction within
a year, "if the process went smooth."
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Mr. Wood noted that there had been no public opposition to
the proposal.
In response to Ms. Huckle's question regarding amenities,
Mr. Wood stressed that this was meant to be affordable
housing and was "not something that you pile on restrictions
to." He indicated that playgrounds and tot lots would be
provided, and possibly some form of day care and a grocery
store. Ms. Huckle expressed concern about a lack of space
in this type of development. He indicated that the lot
sizes would be larger than those in Briarwood.
Mr. Wood confirmed that if the park is allowed in the
industrial area at this time, it will at some time in the
future (10, 15 or 20 years) be removed from that area. He
referred to this as a "transition" situation, but felt it
fills an immediate need for affordable housing and for
several years in the future.
Mr. Johnson attempted to determine if Mr. Wood felt his
propsal was the best possible plan for the property. Mr.
Wood responded affirmatively. Mr. Johnson wondered if R-15
designation would not offer more protection for the
residents than would a LI designation in the event of a
future change in ownership of the property. Mr. Wood agreed
and stated that had been the basis for his original request.
Mr. Johnson felt that R-15 designation had advantages over
the re -designation of LI to accommodate the mobile home
park. [Mr. Cilimberg noted: "Keep in mind that the
re -designation of LI or the allowance under LI to do the
mobile home park was just presented on its own as an
alternative to allow mobile home parks in industrial areas.
It wasn't in combination with the other proposals here, it
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Mr. Wood again expressed the willingness to proffer only 3
access points to Rt. 29. (Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that
the item before the Commission is a Comprehensive Plan
amendment and not a rezoning. He explained that discussions
about proffers would come at the time of rezoning.)
It was noted that the proposed mobile home park would not be
visible from Rt. 29.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. Don Wagner, representing Towers Land Trust, addressed
the Commission. He explained the history of the upcoming
proposal from Towers. He confirmed that a mobile home park
was not a part of that proposal. He supported staff's
recommendation that the two proposals be reviewed
concurrently. He suggested that the Commission might
consider acting on the mobile home part of the request and
defer action on the other aspects of the request.
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Mr. Kevin Cox expressed support for the proposal based on
the number of affordable housing units which will be the
result of the plan. He felt the benefits would outweigh the
negative factors associated with development in close
proximity to the airport.
Regarding the actual affordability of these dwelling units,
given the monthly payments and the rental on the lot, Ms.
Huckle asked Mr. Cox if he felt this was truly affordable
housing. Mr. Cox replied that he felt there was a need for
afforable housing at the middle income level as well as the
low income level.
Mr. Wood clarified that this will be a mobile home "park,"
i.e. he will be leasing the lots but will not own the mobile
homes.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Mr. Jenkins asked staff to once more comment on their
recommendation for a deferral so that both this proposal and
the Towers proposal can be reviewed simultaneously. Mr.
Cilimberg explained: "The idea was so that you were
considering the amount of commercial area as well as
residential area that was being requested in the general
Hollymead growth area at one time and you can consider if,
in fact, you felt it was enough or too much and whether it
was in the proper location. As far as the mobile home park
aspect, you may want to address that differently. But I
think we were looking at an overall landuse plan and not
just the mobile home park issue specifically. The idea of
the light industrial area accommodating mobile home parks
was a way, with its drawbacks and positives, to address the
mobile home park issue separately and you may not be
comfortable with that and that may not be an amendment you
want to pursue. We simply were trying to, as much as
possible, bring two fairly significant proposals that
proposed some of the same landuse changes together to you at
one time."
Mr. Blue felt the issue "boils down to 'Is the Comprehensive
Plan for this area correct now and if it is is the
affordable housing that is coming in the mobile home park
worth the negative aspects created by changing the
Comprehensive Plan?"' Mr. Blue felt that the new road
proposed would take some of the burden off the Airport Road,
even if some of the Earlysville residents used the proposed
commercial area. He questioned the correctness of the
Comprehensive Plan's determination that all commercial area
should be east of Rt. 29, even if it has to go further
north. He reasoned: "Because it seems to me that as the
urban area gets more densely populated going northward, it
seems kind of unreasonable to skip and put a commercial area
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further north just because you have to do it on the east
side of 29 when there's a portion on the west side that
would be available and closer to the more dense area."
Mr. Benish noted that the Comprehensive Plan does recommend
commercial land west of Rt. 29. He added: "The intent of
the Plan as we laid out the recommendations for the
development of Hollymead was to consolidate major regional
large scale commercial areas at that major intersection.
There were specific comments to limit commercial areas up to
the Hollymead area, to encourage them on the east side where
the major residential area was for neighborhood and
community level services --those types of commercial services
that tend to serve the immediate needs of residential areas.
It is not to say that it isn't necessarily inappropriate to
have land uses on the west side, but that was the intent of
the Plan for the development of Hollymead at that time --to
encourage them at the intersections of Airport and Proffit
Road --and to avoid stripping Rt. 29 from the river to
Airport Road. We have been trying to maintain the capacity
of that roadway, particularly lately with the decision for
the Rt. 29 Bypass to begin south of the river it becomes
that much more important to keep the area north of where
that Bypass is as free flowing and containing capacity as
possible. Regarding the road, the comments from VDOT that
we received were that that type of road would take some
traffic from Rt. 606 and Rt. 743 but would not take
significant enough traffic so as to reduce the need to
expand those roads. Major improvements to Rt. 606 and 743,
to some extent, would still be necessary." Mr. Benish
concluded that the benefits of the road proposed would have
to be weighed against adding another major traffic
intersection in a roadway that still does not necessarily,
according to VDOT, significantly reduce the need for already
planned major improvements.
Ms. Huckle noted that Rt. 606 is a very dangerous road and
the point of intersection shown by Mr. Wood's plan is one of
the most dangerous points on the road. Mr. Blue noted that
changes would be made to the intersection to improve it.
Ms. Huckle felt that realignment of the road was somewhat
limited because of the presence of the runway.
Mr. Benish explained that staff had felt that the possible
benefits of the proposed road were less significant than
other aspects of the proposal.
Mr. Blue interpreted from the staff report that staff felt
the negative aspects of the proposal outweighed the positive
aspect of the mobile home park. Mr. Cilimberg stated that
it was the Commission's determination as to whether or not
the offer of the mobile home park was worth the trade-offs,
i.e. approving the applicant's request for the commercial
area. Mr. Cilimberg also pointed out that staff must look
at the overall, area -wide planning and, in this area, "there
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is a lot that's on the table beyond what is being requested
at this time." He added: "I don't think we necessarily
concluded that there should never be commercial where Mr.
Wood is requesting it. Because as we look at the plan,
ultimately, and start trying to look 20 years again when we
do our next review of the plan, it may be necessary that
there be more commercial area. It may be where Mr. Wood is
requesting it; it may be where Great Eastern Management
(Towers) is requesting it. It could be both. ... From the
planning standpoint of where we are right now, we try to
protect 29 as much as possible, above the South Fork Rivanna
River from strip development. I think Mr. Wood's offer to
avoid stripping in terms of access, is consistent with that,
but also playing into all this is 'Is that the right
location for commercial uses that will need several access
points on Rt. 29?' VDOT, right now, is trying to get us to
work with them to reduce the number of major intersections
on Rt. 29 north of the South Fork Rivanna River. We would
be creating a new intersection with the road as planned."
Mr. Blue interpreted, from Mr. Cilimberg's comments, that
though staff was recommending denial of this particular
request, there was the possibility that when this proposal
is considered along with the Towers proposal staff could
support at least some of Mr. Wood's proposed commercial
area. Mr. Cilimberg concluded: "One of the worst things we
can do, even if you go to a land use change in this request,
is go and simply designate a line on the map that nobody has
really considered for its impact to 29's potential traffic
and whether or not it is, in fact, in the right location."
He stated that leads to road alignments that don't fit well.
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that this was designated as an
"employment generating center" in the Comprehensive Plan
because it is near the airport and along a major highway.
He added that anticipated uses of industrial service include
uses other than just light industry, such as office uses and
supporting commercial uses.
Mr. Blue pointed out that the applicant stated that he has
no plans to develop the commercial property immediately so
the main issue is whether or not the mobile home park is
worth the trade-offs.
Ms. Huckle again questioned if this was actually affordable
housing.
Mr. Blue referred back to Mr. Cox's statements, i.e. that
affordable housing does not mean low-income housing and "it
is affordable to the people who can afford it." He
concluded: "We have to decide whether it is worth that to
us.,, Ms. Huckle did not think anyone would choose to live
under a flight path if they had any alternative.
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Mr. Grimm agreed with Mr. Blue that this would be a type of
affordable housing.
Mr. Grimm stated that he was unable to project 20 years into
the future. However, the issue of affordable housing is an
immediate one and this is an opportunity to address that
issue. He also felt that this area of Rt. 29 would
eventually develop into either commercial or industrial
uses. He concluded that he could support the request for
the Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
Mr. Nitchmann agreed with Mr. Grimm. He felt this was a
good use of the land. Regarding the noise issue, he stated
that was a matter of individual choice. He felt the road
issue was several years away also. He noted that the
applicant could develop the property by -right with many more
entrances onto Rt. 29 than are proposed with this plan. He
felt this was a positive proposal for both the County and
the applicant.
Ms. Andersen stated that though she did not have any
objections to Mr. Wood's plan, she would support staff's
recommendation for deferral so that the proposal could be
reviewed along with the Towers proposal.
Ms. Huckle felt it was the Commission's job to "do long term
planning."
Mr. Johnson agreed that another major intersection on Rt. 29
was not desirable, but he wondered if having a series of
several entries was even Less desirable. He indicated he
was inclinced to support the request but wondered if it
would not be preferable to "go the R-15 route" rather than
LI. He felt R-15 would give more permanency to the
residential concept and the tenure of the mobile home park
and would eliminate the temptation to "divest the mobile
park to change it to an industrial use."
Mr. Grimm asked staff if that was a possibility. Mr.
Cilimberg explained that the LI option had been staff's
proposal "to present another opportunity to at least to try
to accomplish more mobile home parks in land that was
designated for uses other than residential." He concluded:
"It think you should look at that separately; you may not
want to address that tonight. I don't think that should be
tied directly into Mr. Wood's request." He stated that the
land use issue should be dealt with separately.
Mr. Cilimberg clarified that the request before the
Commission was for "regional service use, residential,
high -density use, and to keep the rest in industrial
service."
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Mr. Cilimberg attempted to clarify the Commission's intent
in regards to the two different plans (Attachments 3 and 4
to the staff report). He stated: "We would not want to
make a specific recommendation regarding the road, itself. I
think the road should be held for future consideration. You
do want to get some statement in the plan limiting access
along the frontage, as Mr. Wood has proposed. We need to
know, for the Board, what you feel is the best way to lay
the land use out, if you are going to go with regional
service, residential and industrial combination."
Mr. Nitchmann asked the applicant if either plan was
acceptable. Mr. Wood responded: "Yes. I don't care if you
make it all R-15, I would like to make it enough to do at
least 300 units." (Staff responded affirmatively.) He
confirmed that the mobile home park could be placed in
either plan.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that the mobile home park would be
designated "high density residential" rather than R-15. He
clarified that the LI use would,remain. He concluded that
the Commission was contemplating, in either case, "retaining
industrial service and adding commercial and residential."
He asked the Commission to clarify which approach it felt
was most appropriate.
Mr. Jenkins expressed some confusion about the two plans.
He noted that one plan shows R-15 "below the road" and the
other shows LI "below the road."
Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that one plan had less land inside
the Airport Impact Area. (He did not identify this plan by
name but just pointed to it.) Mr. Cilimberg confirmed that
the Commission could pass the request on to the Board
without recommending one plan over the other, but rather a
recommendation to "keep the accesses limited, allowing
commercial on the frontage, allowing enough residential area
for 300 mobile homes and the rest in industrial service."
Mr. Johnson expressed a lack of confidence in this approach
because it does not address Mr. Wood's agreement to proffer
limited access. Mr. Cilimberg added that Mr. Wood has
indicated that he is willing for the Comprehensive Plan
language to include a limitation to the "commercial frontage
in this area as to the number of entrances to three." Mr.
Cilimberg stated that could be put in the Comprehensive
Plan. Mr. Benish pointed out that even though the language
is in the Comprehensive Plan recommending a limitation on
entrances, such a limitation is only enforceable at the time
of a rezoning.
Ms. Huckle asked what circumstance is different now than
when this request.was first previously recommended for
denial. Mr. Cilimberg explained that the only new item is
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the possibility of a Meadowcreek alignment. Ms. Huckle felt
this was another reason for deferral.
Mr. Benish stated there had been no substantial changes in
the application, nor in the offers by the applicant.
The Chairman called for a motion.
Mr. Nitchmann asked if the Commission should not recommend
one of the two plans. He stated he favored the "top" one
(Attachment 3).
Mr. Johnson wondered if it might be preferable to "leave it
open" in the event it is determined that one is more
suitable, topographically, than the other. Mr. Benish
stated staff did not feel there was a significant
topographic difference. Mr. Benish noted that he felt the
applicant favored the "top" plan. (Mr. Wood confirmed this
was accurate, but stated it was not a strong preference.)
Mr. Nitchmann moved that CPA-90-03 to amend the Land Use
Plan for the Hollymead area be recommended to the Board of
Supervisors for approval as presented as Attachment 3.
Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Mr. Cilimberg asked if the motion included the road as
recommended. He again explained that the main question is
whether or not to include a line in the Comprehensive Plan
which shows a connection creating a new major intersection
that is not controlled and does not have a crossover. He
explained that staff feels uncomfortable committing to lines
on a map when no impact study has been performed.
Mr. Nitchmann asked how the plans for the park could move
forward if the location of the road wasn't shown. Mr.
Cilimberg explained that the developer could develop an
internal access road system as part of their plan.
Mr. Nitchmann asked Mr. Wood to comment. Mr. Wood stated
that he did not think the County would build any major road
in this area in the next 10 to 15 years.
Mr. Nitchmann concluded that the absence of the inclusion of
the road would mean that the developer would be responsible
forproviding access to the property. He stated his concern
was that the development not be held up because of the
omission of the road. Mr. Cilimberg explained: "In terms
of having a line or not having a line, that would not really
impact the development moving forward.
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Mr. Nitchmann amended his motion to recommend that the
location of the connector road between Rt. 606 and Rt. 29 be
excluded.
Mr. Jenkins agreed to this change in the motion.
Ms. Huckle stated she would not support the motion because
of the undesirability of living under a flight path and the
feeling that this wwas not actually affordable housing.
Ms. Andersen stated she would not support the motion because
she agreed with staff's recommendation that it be looked at
"in the bigger picture." She also noted that the Affordable
Housing Committee had made many recommendations and this had
been only one small strategy that was recommended.
The motion for approval passed (4:3) with Commissioners
Andersen, Blue and Huckle casting the dissenting votes.
MISCELLANEOUS
Resolution of Intent Z Mobile Homes - Mr. Nitchmann moved
that a Resolution of Intent be adopted to amend the Zoning
Ordinance to allow all mobile homes by -right in the rural
area and village residential zones provided that such mobile
homes shall be located on a permanent foundation and shall
not be used for any purpose other than a primary place of
residence and that the item be scheduled for public hearing.
Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion.
Discussion:
Ms. Huckle expressed the opinion that other areas'
experiences with this situation should be studied further.
Mr. Blue noted that the staff report indicated that all
experiences have been different. He concluded: "We ought
to just vote on what's right, what we think is right."
Mr. Grimm agreed.
The motion to adopt a resolution of intent passed
unanimously.
Mr. Johnson recommended that mobile homes be referred to as
"manufactured homes" so as to be compatible with the Code.
He also suggested that the proposal might be more acceptable
to the public if a requirement that the wheels, axles, and
towbar be removed be included in the regulations.
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Mr. Cilimberg stated that if the Commission agreed with Mr.
Johnson's suggestion, it should be included in the action so
that it could be advertised.
There was a brief discussion as to how this requirement
would effect old units (pre-1970). Mr. Cilimberg explained
that old units would be grandfathered provided they stayed
in their original location, but if they were to be moved,
then the regulation could be applied and he questioned
whether it would be possible to remove this apparatus
without creating structural problems.
Mr. Jenkins indicated he was in agreement with Mr. Johnson's
suggestion regarding the term "manufactured housing," but he
was opposed to getting caught up with "little bits and
pieces." Mr. Grimm agreed.
No change was made to the motion.
NEW BUSINESS
Crozet Co-op Buildin - Mr. Jenkins reported that the owners
of this building had called him with a proposal to rent the
main building for a restaurant. He presented a 1980 site
plan on which "they were asked to do diagonal parking and
put a bar four feet from the highway so that people could
not back into the highway." The bar was never installed
because the Co-op had were under the impression they had
been relieved of that requirement. Mr. Jenkins described
the traffic pattern. Mr. Jenkins asked if the Commission
was comfortable with the site remaining as is, i.e. "with
straight -in parking and the absence of the bumper," in which
case the rental arrangement could proceed. However, if the
Commission was not comfortable with the existing conditions,
then a site plan, etc. would be prepared. He stated that
VDOT is not happy with all traffic exiting onto Rt. 240.
Mr. Johnson stated that there is currently no problem with
getting in and out of the parking spaces, but there could be
a problem if the traffic were all routed to the
intersection. Ms. Andersen agreed and stated that she felt
that the island (bumper) was not a good idea.
Mr. Cilimberg explained that this would be considered a site
plan amendment and a staff report would include VDOT's
comments regarding the island. Adjacent property owners
would be notified. He explained that he could not authorize
this type of change administratively, i.e. he would have to
bring it before the Commission.
Mr. Jenkins stated he was in favor of "leaving it like it
is."
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Mr. Nitchmann moved that the Crozet Co-op Site Plan be
relieved of the requirement to install the traffic island.
Mr. Johnson seconded the motion.
The motion passed (6:0:1) with Commissioner Jenkins
abstaining.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
10:15 p.m.
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