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OCTOBER 13, 1992
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, October 13, 1992, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Phil Grimm, Chairman; Mr. Walter Johnson,
Vice Chairman; Mr. William Nitchmann; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Mr.
Tom Blue; Ms. Ellen Andersen; and Ms. Babs Huckle. Other
officials present were: Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of
Planning and Community Development; Mr. Ken Baker, Senior
Planner; Ms. Yolanda Hipski, Planner; and Mr. Jim Bowling,
Deputy County Attorney.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present.
Mr. Cilimberg briefly previewed actions taken at the October
7 Board of Supervisors meeting.
CONSENT AGENDA
Berkmar Lot 6 Final Site Plan - Proposal for the
construction of a 6,621 square foot building for
retail/warehouse use and 37 parking spaces on a 22,729
square foot parcel. Property, described as Tax Map 61U,
Section 1, Parcels 5 and 6; and Tax Map 61, Parcel 120F, is
located on the northeast side of Berkmar Drive approximately
475 feet west of Rt. 29. Charlottesville Magisterial
District. This site is located in a designated growth area
(Neighborhood 1). Zoned HC, Highway Commercial and EC,
Entrance Corridor Overlay -District.
Mr. Johnson moved, seconded by Mr. Jenkins, that the Consent
Agenda be approved. The motion passed unanimously.
Capital Improvements Program - Public hearing to make a
recommendation to the Board of Supervisors regarding the
1993-94 through 1997-98 Capital Improvements Program.
Mr. Baker briefly described the process and explained the
most recent changes as a result of Commission work sessions.
The following members of the public addressed the Commission
to seek support for various projects:
Mr. Jim Dillenbeck, Coach at Albemarle High School,
(Item No. 41 - Track Resurfacing, Albemarle High School)
Ms. Evelyn Meese, Scottsville resident representing the
Scottsville Park Development Association (Item No. 29 -
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Scottsville Community Center Outdoor Recreation Improvement
and Item No. 35 - Scottsville Elementary School Outdoor
Recreation Improvements) Ms. Meese emphasized that
currently there is no playground in southern Albemarle
County, nor is there a soccer program. She stated the Town
of Scottsville is willing to provide a parcel of land,
adjacent to the existing County -owned property at the old
Scottsville School, for the proposed recreation facilities.
She stated the community feels the first priority should be
to provide a playground. She described antiquated,
dangerous equipment that is currently being used at the
school. She expressed concern also about the lack of safe
surface material for the playground. Ms. Meese felt it
would be more cost effective to coordinate the two projects.
As a result of these comments, Ms. Huckle ask to be provided
with an itemized list of playground equipment and costs.
Ms. Huckle felt it should be possible to replace the
surfacing material immediately.
Mr. Martin Beakman, Mr. David Rady and Mr. Ben Orr,
representing the Lane -Babe Ruth Baseball League (Item No. 6
- Lane Baseball Field Light and Bleacher Improvements.)
Ms. Pam Starling, representing the Woodbrook School PTO
(Item No. 62 - Woodbrook Elementary Outdoor Recreation
Improvement) She noted that the project has been "bumped"
for several years and she asked for assurance that it will
not be bumped again. She asked that the Community commit to
the program of community parks and the needs of established
communities.
Ms. Meg West, representing Brownsville PTO (Item No. 31
-Brownsville Elementary Expansion and Item No. 69 -
Brownsville Elementary Outdoor Recreation Improvement) She
asked that the playground project be phased ahead of the
construction. She felt this would make "the school feel
they are getting something while they are waiting."
Mr. Johnson interpreted that Ms. West was requesting that
the two projects be combined and "appropriately phased."
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
The Commission discussed the concerns which had been raised
by the public. Mr. Jenkins expressed the hope that Mr.
Mulaney (Dept. of Parks and Recreation) would be made aware
of the public comments. On the Scottsville Recreation
projects (Items 29 and 35), Mr. Johnson suggested that a
note be added recommending that some high priority funding
be allocated for playground surfacing material because of
the safety factor involved. (Mr. Cilimberg confirmed that a
note would be added to both those projects. He also stated
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that a similar note could be added to any of the currently
existing facilities in similar situations.) Ms. Huckle
suggested that someone in the County should have the
responsibility of seeing that the high school tracks are
installed properly and maintained properly.
Referring to the third "General Note," which stated that the
Commission "feels unqualified to evaluate school
construction projects based on the information provided,"
Mr. Johnson commented: "I'll accept it, but I think we
should recognize that we have the authority, according to
the Code, to request such information from the school
organization and the fact that we didn't, we could be called
to task on it."
Mr. Johnson made the following additional comments on other
Notes (listed under Ranked Projects):
--Note No. 10 (Henley Middle School Masonry Repairs):
He suggested the addition of the following sentence: "Any
cost savings which might accrue as the result of combining
Item 4 with 27 should be identified and evaluated."
--Note No. 21 (Northside Branch Additional Materials):
He suggested the addition of a comment to suggest that some
funding be allocated to this project, even though it may not
be to the extent requested.
--Note No. 24 (PVCC Site Improvements): He commented:
"If that should receive approval, we certainly should go
ahead with the few dollars necessary for the site
improvements as our share. I think we should indicate that
degree of cooperation."
--Note No. 28 (New County Fire Station): He commented:
"I'd like to see some part of that note incorporating the
evaluation of the Northern site into that (analysis)."
Regarding the Albemarle High School track resurfacing, Mr.
Nitchmann felt that if it was a safety issue, then it should
be moved up the list. Mr. Nitchmann expressed frustration
about the difficulty in ranking these projects without
knowledge as to how much money is actually going to be
available and how many projects will actually be funded.
As a result of the public comments, the Commission made the
following shifts in the rankings of projects:
--Moved item No. 62 (Woodbrook Elementary Outdoor
Recreation Improvement) to position No. 51 and moved item
No. 51 (Avon Street/Route 20 Connector) to position No. 62.
--Moved item No. 41 (Track Resurfacing - AHS) to
position No. 37 and moved item No. 37 (Rivanna Boat Launch)
to position No. 41.
Mr. Blue pointed out that the Lane Baseball Field Light and
Bleacher Improvements is already ranked No. 6 on the list.
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Mr. Johnson moved, seconded by Mr.Jenkins, that the Capital
Improvements Program be forwarded to the Board of
Supervisors as presented in the staff report dated October
8, 1992 with the changes cited above.
The motion passed unanimously.
SUB-92-080 Willow Creek Farm Preliminary Plat - Proposal
to create four lots averaging 6.5 acres and leaving a 63.43
acre residue. Access through a proposed private road.
Property, described as Tax Map 7, Parcel 29, is located on
the south side of Rt. 687 approximately one mile east of Rt.
810 in the White Hall Magisterial District. This site is
not located in a designated growth area (Rural Area I).
Ms. Hipski presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval subject to conditions.
The applicant was represented by Mr. Michael Milner. He
answered Commission questions about flooding of the road and
access to lots 4 and 5. Mr. Johnson noted that the plat
shows two dedications --a 25 foot right-of-way to the road
and a re -alignment of the road. He pointed out that neither
of these is required by either the Virginia Department of
Transportation or by any government organization "based on
the lack of connecting it to a requirement generated by a
property." Mr. Johnson asked: "What assurance can you give
me that the property owner is aware that he is under
absolutely no obligation to make those two dedications, to
convince me that there is no inference, or no possibility of
any kind of unintentional suggestions or anything else on
the part of anybody involved in the government on reviewing
this plan, recognizing that he can always, if the property
owner desires in the future, he can go ahead by his own free
well and propose these, but by putting them on the plat
here, then we become party to this agreement. What
assurance can you give me, if any, that the property owner
is fully and undeniably aware of his right and (is under) no
obligation to make either one of those dedications?" Mr.
Milner explained: "In the process of developing the plan,
for safety reasons, we felt it was very important to take
that little hump out of the road to give you much better
sight access and to make a much better place for access to
and from the site and that we were proposing this, this was
not something required by the State. We were merely doing
it for safety reasons. ... He understands it very clearly.
He has been comprised (sic apprised) of all the notes back
and forth and I have had extensive meetings with Yolanda and
she has been extremely helpful, that it is not a requirement
that he dedicate the 25 feet, but that it was brought up and
we were offering it, not to get anything, but just that in
the future the road might, in the year 2050, be expanded and
he would like to go ahead and get things done properly and
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get them done now so that he has a solid plan." Mr. Milner
confirmed that the applicant did this of his own "free
will." Mr. Milner confirmed that the Health Department has
already approved the lots for drainfields. Ms. Hipski noted
that there are no septic fields on slopes greater than 20%.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Jenkins moved, seconded by Mr. Blue, that the Willow
Creek Farm Preliminary Plat be approved subject to the
following conditions:
1. The final plat shall not be submitted for signature nor
shall it be signed until the following conditions are met:
a. Department of Engineering approval of grading and
drainage plans and calculations;
b. Department of Engineering approval of road and
associated drainage plans and calculations;
c. Department of Engineering issuance of an erosion
control permit;
d. Staff approval of road maintenance agreement;
e. Virginia Department of Transportation approval of
plans for improvement to Route 687.
2. Staff approval of final plat.
The motion passed unanimously.
MISCELLANEOUS
Next Joint Meeting with the City Planning Commission - Mr.
Grimm explained that the following dates had been suggested
by the City: November 9, 11 or 30. No objections were
raised to any of the dates suggested. Staff is to finalize
a date and inform the Commission. Mr. Grimm asked that
staff be present at the meeting.
Fee Schedule - Mr. Blue asked about the status of staff's
study on possible adjustment of some fees. Mr. Cilimberg
stated that staff is still working on this issue.
Mr. Blue expressed surprise that a fee is charged for a
determination of development rights by the Zoning
Administrator. (Mr. Cilimberg confirmed that a fee is
charged for an "official" determination of development
rights.)
Mr. Blue also expressed concern that proffers which are
attached to a piece of property are not recorded even though
they are a legal committment. Mr. Bowling confirmed that
proffers are not recorded "unless they are listed on a plat
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somewhere." Mr. Cilimberg added that the proffers are part
of the County's records (Zoning Department) because they are
part of the zoning. Mr. Nitchmann was concerned because
proffers would not show up in a title search either. He
felt there should be an obligation on the part of the County
to notify the Clerk's Office of proffers which should be
attached to deeds. Mr. Bowling explained that a
conscientious attorney will check on these matters for their
clients.
Mr. Blue asked if the collection of fees (on site plans)
could be changed so that the entire fee did not have to be
paid "up front." Mr. Cilimberg explained that there are two
separate fees, i.e. one for the preliminary plan or plat and
another for the final plan or plat.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
9:15 p.m.
V. Wayne Cilimberg, Secretary
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