HomeMy WebLinkAbout01 30 90 PC MinutesJANUARY 30, 1990
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on
Tuesday, January 30, 1990, Meeting Room 7, County Office
Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present were
Mr. Keith Rittenhouse, Chairman; Mr. Harry Wilkerson, Vice
Chairman; Mr. Phil Grimm; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Ms. Ellen Andersen;
Mr. Walter Johnson; and Ms. Babs Huckle. tither officials present
were: Mr. V. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community
Development; Mr. David Benish, Chief of Community Development;
and Mr. Jim Bowling, Deputy County Attorney
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of January
16, 1990 were approved as submitted.
CPA 89-04 LewisMountain/University Heights Aroa B Neighborhood
Study - Proposal to amend the Albemarle County Comprehensive Plan
to include the recommendations of the Lewis Mountain -University
Heights "Area B" Neighborhood Study.
Mr. Benish presented the staff report. The report explained:
"The Land Use Map changes are recommended iin order to accurately
reflect the intended land use for areas presently shown in the
Plan as University property. All land use changes are located in
Neighborhood 6. ... The Land Use Map changes are as follows:
Change the land use designation from public/semi-public
(University) to low density residential for the property known as
Midmont, located at the end of Midmont Lane; ...to low density
residential for an area located west of University Heights
apartment complex, and south of University property on 250 west;
...(and) to medium density residential west of University Heights
apartment complex and Ivy Gardens Commercial Area."
The Chairman invited public comment.
Ms. Julia Campbell, an adjacent property owner (property shown in
yellow on the map), addressed the Commission. She expressed
opposition to "restricting" the use of her property because she
felt it would devaluate her property.
(Note: Mr. Benish explained that a previous mistake in the land
use map had shown Ms. Campbell's property as belonging to the
University. He stated that error has been corrected to show the
property as being privately owned. He added that this area is
now being recommended as low density, which would permit 1-4
units per acre, in the Comprehensive Plan. He stated further:
"This is not an attempt to limit development, but rather show a
residential land use designation on land that previously had no
residential designation.")
Mr. Venable Minor, an adjacent property
addressed the Commission. He presented
the positions of various properties in
questioned the use of the term "buffer
owner, below Ms. Ca.mbell,
a. hand -drawn outline of
the subject area. He
zone," because he felt the
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buffer was already in existence He asked that the Commission
take into consideration the existing privately -owned properties
before making a decision.
Mr. Benish explained one of the reasons for recommending medium
density for one area was that it would serve as a transitional
area between the other uses in the area and another reason was
the size of the site and its limitations due to an access by
perscriptive easement may create traffic concerns for a high
density designation.
Mr. Minor disagreed with Mr. Benish's statements about the access
issue,
Mr. Cilimberg expanded on the reasoning behind the designation in
relation to the idea of it serving as a transition between uses.
He pointed out that the report reflected that a thorough analysis
had been made of the ability of these properties to handle new
development.
Mr. Minor noted that none of the owners of the parcels involved
had been asked to.serve on the Committee which had taken part in
the study. He also suggested that he had not been able determine
who had served on the Committee.. (Mr. Cilimberg pointed out that
the study was a matter of public record and the names were
printed on the document. He explained how the members had been
selected and then read the names of those who had served on the
Committee.)
Hearing that Mr. Heishmann was a member of the Committee, Ms.
Campbell suggested that he had been looking out for his own
interests to the detriment of his neighbors. (Mr. Rittenhouse
pointed out that the makeup of the committee was not a matter
before the Commission, but rather the results of the study.) Ms.
Campbell approached the issue of legal recourse if the County
should "down -zone" her property. Mr. Rittenhouse advised her
that this was an issue which could be pursued privately if she so
desired. He also explained the matter before the Commission was
not an attempt to restrict anyone's property rights, but rather
simply to determine if approval of what is believed to be
appropriate zoning designations for the property is in order.
There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Mr. Johnson asked if the concerns raised by the public had been
taken into consideration by the Committee.
Mr. Cilimberg explained how the process had been conducted --
through work sessions and public meetings. He did not recall
there having been any input as to changes in the land use
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recommendations though there had been a number of people present
at the public meeting.
Mr. Rittenhouse noted that he felt the contents of the study had
been the result of a thorough planning process involving the
City, the County and the University. He stated he would be very
reluctant to modify those recommendations at this point,
particularly in view of the fact that the public had been
included in the process.
Mr. Grimm moved that CPA-89-04 regarding the Lewis
Mountain/University Heights Area B Neighborhood Study be
recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval.
Mr. Wilkerson seconded the motion which passed (6:1) with
Commissioner Johnson casting the dissenting vote.
Six -Year Secondary Road Plan - Recommendations to the Board of
Supervisors regarding the 1990-1996 Six Year Secondary Road Plan.
A total of 67 projects have been identified. The total funds
estimated to be available for the six --year period are
approximately $7,000,000.
Mr. Benish presented the staff report assisted by Mr. Cilimberg.
Mr. Benish summarized that the basic issue before the Commission
was whether or not to recommend the new projects which are
suggested for the new plan, i.e. projects 30 through 34 (or
projects 31, 35, 36 and 37 as recommended by the Highway
Department). (Note. The Highway Department placed bridge
projects at a higher priority than did staff, i.e. they placed
projects 35, 36, and 37 before projects 30, 32, 33 and 34 which
included Old Ivy Road, Avon Street/Rt. 20 Connector, Jarmans Gap
and Georgetown Roads.) Mr. Benish noted that the other decision
before the Commission was whether to support staff's
recommendation that unpaved road projects be based on the rating
system criteria, i.e. perceived need, or to support the Highway
Department's policy of rating them based on available right-of-
way,
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. Jeff Douglas, representing several property owners on Rt.
610, addressed the Commission. He asked only that that project
(project 59) remain as listed on the list and that it not be
given a lower priority. He pointed out the poor condition of the
road since it is no longer being maintained as a result of being
on the list for paving.
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There being no further public comment, the matter was placed
before the Commission.
Mr. Johnson spoke at length about his strong feeling that the
criteria used to rank unpaved road projects was deficient
because, in his opinion, that criteria gave little, if any
consideration to the safety of the road. He felt this should be
the main factor in assessing need for a project. He referred
several times to a document, dated April 6, 1988, which set forth
the policy of the Board of Supervisors for unpaved roads. He
questioned whether staff's procedure for evaluating unpaved road
projects was compatible with this policy. He stated: "I submit
that highway safety is not a factor in anything I've heard so far
and nothing I see on the Board of Supervisor's policy. I submit
that this is a fatal defect." He did not feel that traffic
count, in and of itself, was an indication of a road's safety.
He noted that Police Department accident records do not give any
information about roads. He felt the procedure was "fatally
defective," and as a result of this defect the state was being
placed in a position of liability, Mr. Johnson also indicated
that he found the priority list deseript.ion�,sTdi fiult to
understand. Mr. Johnson recommended that He'1/,g L1hYib� ects among
the members of the Commission, with each Commissioner being
assigned projects that were outside their district, for an
"objective" review of, particularly, the safety aspects, devoid
of any "parochial" interest. He also suggested that all projects
considered "have individual statements recorded reflecting the
consideration and evaluation given to their highway safety
characteristics." (See Attachment, Part A)
Mr. Rittenhouse invited staff comment.
Mr. Benish began by stating that it would be impossible for staff
to give any more complete review than that which has been given
these projects given the available staff. He stressed that "it
is not intended that this priority system be the end result of
what the recommendations are." He explained that the Six -Year
Plan goes through a public hearing process each year where public
comment is received and, in addition, staff solicits comments
from the school bus section of the Department of Education and
the Fire Department for subjective comments about projects. He
stated that the system cannot possibly do everything and it is
not intended to --"it is not cast in stone" --but rather provides a
"'rational, objective start." He stated he would need at least
three additional staff members to be able to keep accurate
records of accident reports in relation to roads. He stated the
staff would continue to try to improve the system. Mr. Benish
also explained how the scoring system works in ranking the
projects.
Mr. Rittenhouse summarized Mr. Benish's comments: "Staff has
taken direction from the Board on what sort of criteria should be
applied in ordering these projects and has attempted to apply
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criteria to come up with a rating. That rating is being
presented to the public for an additional factor that would be
input and staff has indicated that they would welcome, ask for,
solicit, additional input from the public that would relate to
factors that are not included in their criteria -based rating
system ... that would include things such as safety from personal
experience and other factors that could then be plugged in and
evaluated by staff, by the Commission, and reviewed by the public
and if modifications were indicated, then those modifications
could be made and reflected in our recommendations to the Board
who will make the ultimate decision on whether this is the
ultimate rating of projects. I think that uniformity in applying
this criteria is very important and my view is that that can only
be accomplished if a central organization --in this case our
planning staff --is responsible for applying this criteria to all
these projects and therefore they can be applied uniformly. The
question of whether or not we agree if the criteria is correct is
an important item, but it is a somewhat separate item. The
question of the validity of the criteria and how the criteria are
applied, and by whom, are both important to us. At this point,
we have a list of projects before us and we know what the basis
of•that ordering is, generically we do. We have invited public
comment and we have really heard no public comment that suggests
that these priorities are out of order. So it's before us to
determine whether we agree if they're in order and whether we
agree on the basis for ranking the unpaved road projects by staff
and we agree or don't agree with VDOT's recommendations on some
reordering of projects to raise the priority of certain bridge
projects."
Ms. Andersen asked for an explanation of the rating system for
the bridges. Mr. Roosevelt responded to this request and
explained the sufficiency rating system. (Mr. Benish pointed out
that the staff's criteria -based rating system uses VDOT's
sufficiency rating system as one of their criteria for evaluating
bridge projects, i.e. staff's system includes VDOT's "plus" other
factors.)
There was a brief discussion about the Rt. 660 bridge project.
Ms. Huckle stated she would be very upset if the work on this
bridge were to be slowed down. She asked if a sign might be
placed on the bridge which would limit the bridge to only one
vehicle at a time. Mr. Roosevelt felt the "3 Tons" sign should
serve that purpose. Ms. Huokle stated that personal experience
shows that the existing sign is not an effective deterrent.
In response to Ms. Andersen's request, Mr. Roosevelt reviewed the
sufficiency ratings for several bridges.*Referring to the long
process involved in getting funds together for these projects, he
stated that if they were not placed in the plan at this time,
there was a possibility that the bridges would have to be closed.
*(See Attachment, Part B)
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Mr. Roosevelt also explained that the ranking of projects 27
through 37 was especially important because whether or not those
projects go forward will depend on the availability of revenue -
sharing funds. (He stated that projects 1 through 26 could go
forward without revenue -sharing.)
Mr. Johnson expressed a lack of understanding as to how projects
could be placed in the plan without any suggested funding. Mr.
Benish explained the process and Mr. Rittenhouse summarized:
"But if we were to endorse this ordering of projects, between the
time that we leave here tonight and the time the Board looks at
this it can be filled in to reflect funding."
There was a brief discussion about the funding process, including
the funds available for the existing plan and its relation to
this proposed plan.
Mr. Rittenhouse clarified that an adoption of funding was not an
issue before the Commission but rather the adoption of a priority
list.
Mr. Roosevelt again explained the difference in staff's ranking
and VDOT's ranking, i.e. staff is recommending projects 30 (Old
Ivy 250/29-250 BYP); 31 (Airport, 606/240); 32 (Avon Street/Rt.
20 Connector); 33 (Georgetown Rd. 743/654); and 34 (Jarman's Gap
240-684) and VDOT is recommending projects 30 (Airport, 606/240);
31 (Proffit RR Bridge); 32 (Advance Mills Bridge);and 33 (Old
Ballard RR Bridge).
Mr. Rittenhouse again restated the two main decisions to be made
by the Commission. He added that in terms of ranking of unpaved
roads he felt staff's approach was correct, i.e. priority based
on need rather than availability of right-of-way.
He asked if there were compelling reasons why staff feels the
three road projects should be ahead of the bridge projects.
Mr. Benish stated he did not feel there was a "compelling" reason
and pointed out that the projects are ranked "together," which
indicates there is a similarity. He stated that the road
projects tended to get ranked higher because they are in growth
areas and support the growth management policy. He also noted
that the Board has stated that before the Rt. 743 and Rt. 649
bridge projects are put in the plan an impact analysis should be
done. He stated staff would like to have a least a year to study
these projects in order to more fully understand what the impact
of these projects will be. He pointed out that if the bridge
projects keep the ranking proposed by staff, it was possible that
they could receive some of the revenue -sharing funds.
Mr. Rittenhouse noted that there is no question about the fact
that the future of the bridges is limited, but the question is at
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what point they should be placed in a position to receive
funding.
There was a brief discussion about the results of an impact study
on a bridge project and also about how the process proceeds once
funds have been committed for a project
Mr. Jenkins moved that staff's priority list for the Six -Year
Secondary Road plan be adopted,
Ms. Andersen seconded the motion
Discussion:
Mr. Johnson stated: "I submit, and may it be recorded.. , this
plan as it stands is fatally defective and, thus, ultimately,
extends the exposure of liability on the part of the Commonwealth
on the basis that highway safety has been essentially completely
ignored. No identifying factor or combination of factors
reflecting highway safety has been mentioned, discussed or
evaluated. In my way of thinking, based on what I ve seen here
tonight, the Planning Commission has abdicated its responsibility
to the Community with respect to highway safety."
Mr. Grimm disagreed and stated he felt the functional analysis
performed by staff did included an element of safety.
Mr. Johnson challenged staff to identify that element.
Mr. Benish stated: "These are the best measures that we have
available to us that we can handle to imply what the safety is,
i.e. traffic counts on a roadway indicating tendencies, the
number of vehicles and the chances of accidents."
Mr. Grimm also pointed out that staff consults with the Education
Department (school buses) and Fire Department for their input on
projects which are of concern.
Ms. Andersen added that the Commission and staff must also depend
on the public to make their concerns about a particular safety
situation known. She stated: "We are not all knowing."
Mr. Benish concluded: "This criteria -based rating system is not
intended to indicate finally what projects we are to rate. It is
an objective starting point that we can (use) to review all
projects equally as best we can and, from that point, given
subjective information, the infinite wisdom of the public, the
Commission and the Board of Supervisors, we hope that we can
address all the concerns. But, I don't think that any system
that we can do could be any better..,,."
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Referring to the bridge projects, Mr Rittenhouse stated that
though he was sensitive to staff's desire to include the public
in the process, he was also sensitive to the urgency of the
bridge projects. He felt the public meetings associated with
these projects would provide the opportunity for public input.
He stated he would like to see the bridge projects "accelerated,
and for that reason he would not support the motion to approve
staff's priority list.
The previously stated motion for approval failed (3:4) with
Commissioners Andersen, Jenkins and Wilkerson voting in favor,
and Commissioners Rittenhouse, Grimm, Johnson, and Huckle voting
against.
The Chairman called for an alternative motion.
Ms. Huckle moved that VDOT's recommended priority list for the
Six Year Secondary Road plan be adopted which includes the
following changes in ranking:
NEW RANK
PROJECT
(Previously)
30
Airport Rd.- Rt. 649
31
31
Proffit RR Bridge
35
32
Advance Mills Bridge
36
33
Old Ballard RR Bridge
37
34
Avon St./Rt. 20 Connector
32
35
Old Ivy 250/29-250BYP
30
36
Georgetown Rd. 743/654
33
37
Jarman's Gap 240-684
34
Mr. Grimm seconded the motion which passed (6:0:1), with Mr.
Johnson abstaining.
VDOT Subdivision Street ReaUirements - Revisions to Virginia
Department of Transportation Subdivision Street Requirements. For
information only.
Mr. Cilimberg briefly highlighted the report which had been
received by the Commission. He stated: "What essentially has
resulted here is the potential for higher design speeds on
subdivision streets and, as part of that, what you might envision
is straighter and flater roads which entail not only higher
speeds but also more potential cut and fill. The repercussions
of the Commission are the possibility of more appeals asking for
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waivers to allow a private road ...... He explained the Board has
asked staff for a procedure whereby the Board can ask the state
to reconsider some of these changes.
There was a brief discussion about the reasons for the changes.
No action was required of the Commission.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:10
P.M. ,
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ATTACHMENT to these minutes on the back of this page.
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ATTACHMENT to Minutes of January 30, 1990.
PART A:
Mr. Johnson quoted several passages from Special Report 214 "Designing
Safer Roads" prepared by the National Transportation Research Board and
published in 1987. This report identified certain factors which Mr.
Johnson felt should be given consideration during road improvement project
selection deliberations in order to avoid Court judgments against a
public agency. He noted that the report also identified some considerations
thathave been rejected by Courts when proposed as defenses to claims of
negligent performance relevant to highway conditions. He felt that,
"notwithstanding the current condition of Rts. 711, 712, and 760, it
should be recognized that these more or less all connect to same two
geographical points (and) these points are also connected by paved roads
essentially parallel to and adjacent to Rts. 711, 712 and 760." He
felt that "because of this, at least no more than one of these should be
considered for improvements at this time."
PART B :
Mr. Roosevelt explained the following ratings:
(1) The bridge over Southern RR on Rt. 649: Rating 11.7.
(2) The bridge on Rt. 677 over the C & 0 RR: Rating 10.5
(He noted that this rating may go up as a result of recent
improvements by the railroad.)
(3) The North Fork --of the Rivanna on Rt. 743: Rating 14.2.
He explained that when the sufficiency rating is below 20, VDOT recommends
replacement or reconstruction. He pointed out that the rating on the
bridge on Rt. 660, which is scheduled for reconstruction this summer
has a rating of 4.
.So /