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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03 06 90 PC MinutesMARCH 6, 1990 The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public hearing on Tuesday, March 6, 1990, Meeting Room 7, County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members present were: Mr. Keith Rittenhouse, Chairman; Mr. Harry Wilkerson, Vice Chairman; Mr. Phil Grimm; Mr. Tom Jenkins; Ms. Ellen Andersen; Mr. Walter Johnson; and Ms. Babs Huekle. Other officials present were: Mr. V. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of Planning and Community Development; Mr. Ron Keeler, Chief of Planning; Mr. Bill Fritz, Senior Planner; Ms. Yolanda Lapinski, Planner; and Mr. Jim Bowling, Deputy County Attorney. The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and established that a quorum was present. The minutes of February 20, 1890 were approved as submitted. Sp-90-03 William A. Davis - Request in accordance with Section 5.8 of the Zoning Ordinance to locate a single wide mobile home on property described as Tax Map 81, Parcel 24. The property is located approximately 1/4 mile on a private easement off of the west side of Rt. 799, approximately 3 miles from the intersection of Rt. 250E and Rt. 799. Rivanna Magisterial District. Ms. Lipinski presented the staff report. The Chairman invited applicant comment. The applicant, Mr. William Davis, was present but offered no additional comment. The Chairman invited public comment. Mr. Frank Biasiolli, an adjacent property owner, addressed the Commission. He expressed his opposition to the request because he felt it would have a negative impact on the area and would devalue existing property. He also felt the 15-foot right-of-way off of Rt. 799 was too narrow. He also stated he was of the belief that the right-of-way to serve the subject property was out through his property without his permission, though this has not been resolved. (Note: Regarding this issue, the staff report stated: "The attached plat indicates that the property does have a deeded access. The issue of the legality of access applies to the property and not the nature of the use of the property and should be resolved by the disputants.") Mr. Rittenhouse asked staff to explain what he thought was a discrepancy on the plat, i.e. the location of the 15 foot right- of-way as opposed to a 50-foot right-of-way shown on the vicinity sketch. Mr. Keeler explained that the 50-foot right-of-way in the vicinity sketch was located at the other end of the property. March 6, 1990 Page 2 Mr. Rittenhouse indicated understanding and noted that he had been mistaken in his interpretation. Ms. Faye Davis, owner of the property and mother of the applicant, spoke in favor of the application. She explained a history of the property and noted that she had a copy of the deed which conveyed a 15-foot right-of-way to the property. She also explained that the right-of-way has been in existence since 1902 but was not used and in 1980 the right-of-way had been cleared. There being no further public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. Mr. Rittenhouse asked staff to comment on the question of whether or not a 15-foot right-of-way was a reasonable access. Regarding the legality of the right-of-way, Mr. Bowling advised the Commission that it could not get involved with trying to resolve a private dispute. Mr. Rittenhouse acknowledged his understanding of Mr. Bowling's statement and noted that he was only interested in whether or not the 15-foot was an adequate travelway. Mr. Cilimberg addressed this question and stated that the Subdivision Ordinance allows a 14-foot right-of-way for 6-10 dwelling units so this exceeds the Ordinance requirement. Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-90-03 for William Davis be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following conditions: I. Albemarle County Building Official approval; 2. Conformance to all area, bulk and other applicable requirements for distance in which it is located; 3. Skirting around the mobile home from ground level to base of mobile home to be completed within thirty (30) days of the issuance of a certificate of occupancy; 4. Provision of potable water supply and sewerage facilities to the satisfaction of the zoning administrator and approval by the local office of the Virginia Department of Health, if applicable under current regulations; 5. Maintenance of existing vegetation. Landscaping and/or screening to be provided to the satisfaction of the zoning administrator. Required screening shall be maintained in good condition and replaced if it should die; F2 March 6, 1990 Page 3 B. Mobile home is not to be rented; 7. Spacial use permit is to be issued for use by William Davis and his family only. Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion which passed unanimously. - - The applicant is proposing to locate a veterinary clinic in the Pantops Shopping Center in accordance with Section 25.2.2 (5). Property is described as Tax Map 78, parcel 17D and is zoned PD-SC, Planned Development -Shopping Center, in the Rivanna Magisterial District. Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended approval subject to conditions. Mr. Rittenhouse noted that he would prefer that the part of the sentence after the word "area" be deleted; thus the condition would read: "There shall be no outside exercise area." Staff expressed no opposition to this change. Mr. Wilkerson also noted he was in favor of such a change. Ms. Huckle asked if there would be other access to the facility, e.g. a rear door. (Mr. Wagner responded that there would be a rear door.) Mr. Johnson wondered why there were no provisions for a separate entry and exit. He did not feel that a glass door Would '•abdicate" the requirement for separate entry and exit. He also wondered if consideration should be given to a soundproofing Provision to avoid interference with the next -door business. Mr. Fritz stated that presently the Zoning Ordinance does not provide for soundproofing between adjacent commercial uses. Mr. Johnson felt that the fact that soundproofing is required in relation to residential or agricultural property infers that it is indeed a concern, and in this case the adjacent use is only six inches away. Mr. Johnson also suggested that the word "confined" in condition No. 4 be changed to "permitted." He felt animals should not be allowed outside at all given the fact that this will be located in a shopping mall. Mr. Grimm asked it if was usual for this type of establishment to have separate entry and exit. Mr. Fritz stated staff is aware of some veterinary practices which do have separate entry and exit. but certainly not all. Mr. Grimm indicated he understood Mr. Johnson's concern. The Chairman invited applicant comment. 4 March 6, 1990 Page 4 The applicant was represented by Mr. Don Wagner. He stated the applicant had no problems with the staff report as submitted nor with the changes that have been proposed by staff. He noted that the Ordinance does not require separate entranoe and exit though it does suggest that consideration be given to the possible need for such a design. (He noted that he had anticipated this very question at the time the amendment to the Ordinance had been approved which allows this use in a shopping center. He did not recall it having been "a big deal.") He felt anyone visiting a vet is very aware of possible conflicts and acts appropriately to avoid problems. In response to Ms. Huckle's question, Mr. Wagner stated the door is totally glass. (Ms. Huekle felt that this was not a big problem since the door will be glass. She explained that the vets she has had experience with only have one door and she is always cautious as she enters the door.) There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-90-08 for Riverbend Limited Partnership be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following conditions: 1. There shall be no outside exercise area. 2. Use shall be limited to 388 Pantops Center. 3. Noise measured at the nearest agricultural or residential lot line shall not exceed forty (40) decibels. 4. No animals are to be confined outside. Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion which passed unanimously. 7MA_ _01 - Proffered request in accordance with Section 33.2.1 and 33.3 of the Zoning Ordinance to amend ZMA-84-32 and ZMA-85-18 in order to allow a Fast Food Restaurant. Property is described as Tax Map 81W, Section 1, Block A, Parcel 5, and is located on the north side of Greenbrier Drive in Greenbrier Square. Property is located in the Charlotesville Magisterial District and is currently zoned HC, Highway Commercial. Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. The report concluded: "Staff opinion is that the applicant's proffers limit the use in a manner so as to provide more adequate parking and maintain a similar level of traffic as the previous occupant. Therefore, staff recommends approval of ZMA-90-01 Greenbrier Square with the addition of Fast Food Restaurants to the list of permitted uses March 6, 1990 Page 5 approved with ZMA-84-32 and ZMA-85-18 and the acceptance of the applicant's proffers to govern fast food restaurant...." The applicant was represented by Mr. Jim Murray. He explained this request was necessary because the present Zoning Ordinance does not have a definition describing pizza delivery services. He explained the history of the request. He noted that the proffers were designed to keep traffic at a minimum. There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. Mr. Wilkerson moved that ZMA-90-01 for Greenbrier Square Limited Partnership be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the applicant's proffers as follows: 1. Used for food distribution off premises only; 2. Ancillary use of retail pick-up or carry -out only; 3. No consumption of food on premises; 4. No seating on premises. Mr. Grimm seconded the motion which passed unanimously. SP-90-01 Michelle Matte - Request in accordance with Section 15.2.2(7) of the Zoning Ordinance to allow for a day care to be located on 1.775 sores zoned R-4, Residential. Property, described as Tax Map 76, Parcel 15A is located on the north side of Rt. 702, three -tenths of a mile west of O.S. 29 Bypass in the Samuel Miller Magisterial District. Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. (He noted a correction on page 2 of the staff report, i.e. the distance to the nearest public sewer line should have been =, not 400, feet.) Staff recommended approval subject to conditions. (He also noted a correction in condition No. 6, i.e. "Health Department approval of enlarged septic system.) Mr. Rittenhouse noted that condition No. 4 should state "February 21," not February 20. Mr. Rittenhouse also asked staff to comment on the significance of the age and season distinctions in condition No. 1. Mr. Fritz explained this was how the request had been submitted by the applicant but the breakdown was not of significance to staff's evaluation of the request. Mr. Wilkerson asked about condition No. employees. Mr. Fritz explained that at be recuired at all times, regardless of 2 related to number of least two employees would the number of children Sf March 6, 1990 Page 6 present. Mr. Keeler added that pupil/teaoher ratios are set by the State and would be addressed through the facility's license. There was a brief discussion about the location of the sewer. Mr. Fritz explained that it was approximately 800 feet from the property, but he was uncertain as to the exact location. Ms. Huckle asked if it would be "convenient" for this applicant to work together with the Trinity Church (nearby) on the extension of the sewer line. (Mr. Fritz did not know if the applicant had considered this possibility.) Ms. Huckle stated she did not feel she had enough information to make a decision as to the "reasonableness" of requiring connection to public sewer. Mr. Fritz recalled a past action where connection was not required (Blue Ridge Garden Center - sewer 500 feet distant), and he noted there had been other actions were the distance was much greater and connection had not been required. Mr. Fritz stated that though it has not been definitively established, it appears that gravity sewer will be possible for the property. Mr. Johnson noted that the area behind the Chinese restaurant was "quite flooded." Mr. Fritz explained that there is a pond in the area. He was uncertain as to which side the sewer line is on. The applicant, Ms. Michelle Mattiole, director of the University Montessori School, addressed the Commission. She gave a history and description of the school. She noted that it is very difficult to find a site that meets both the regulatory and educational criteria necessary for a school. She asked that those present in support of the application raise their hands. (28 persons indicated their support.) Mr. Rittenhouse asked if Ms. Mattiole understood condition No. 4 [Compliance with Virginia Department of Transportation comments of February 21, 1990.], and the fact that VDOT's recommendations would become requirements if this condition is approved. After a brief explanation by Mr. Fritz, Ms. Mattiole indicated she understood. In response to Ms. Huckle's question, Ms. Mattiole stated she had not considered the possibility of sharing the cost of extension of the sewer line with Trinity Church. Ms. Huckle stated she was concerned about the fact that there are two houses on less than two acres, served by a septic system, and failure of the system could create a serious problem for the school. Ms. Huckle noted that it might be cheaper to extend the sewer than to upgrade the existing septic system. Ms. Mattiole stated it would depend entirely on the distance, and there is some discrepancy about the March 6, 1990 Page 7 actual distance. (She noted the Service Authority says 1,O0O feet and staff is saying 800. She stated she had been quoted a price of $8/foot for extension.) Ms. Huckle asked if it would be possible to get this information before taking action on the request. Mr. Fritz suggested that if the Commission so desired it could require Commission approval of the final site plan, (not administrative approval) and delay a decision about the sewer line until that time. He stated there would be more information available at that time about soil suitability and location of the sewer line. Mr. Keeler interjected that the applicant may not be able to gait that long for a decision. He pointed out that the applicant will be required to connect to public water and the acreage of the property is acceptable for a septic field. He noted that the usage for the school will be approximately the same as for a single-family dwelling. (Ms. Huckle stated she found this difficult to accept considering there would be 37 children present. Ms. Mattiole pointed out that no showers would be taken, no clothes washed, no food preparation, etc.) Mr. Keeler explained that the measurement is 10 gallons/child/day = 360 gallons vs. a three -bedroom dwelling = 450 gallons\day. Mr. Keeler stated: "It does fall within the realm of the Ordinance to authorize this type of use on a septic system." He pointed out that public schools, with 800 students, are served by septic systems. Ms. Mattiole noted that she had been quoted a figure of 25 gallons/child/day, but she felt this was double what it should have been. In any case, Ms. Mattiole stated the Service Authority representatives had stated that even at the 25 gallons/day there was sufficient area for the drainfield (and a backup field) without interference with the play area. She also clarified that there would be two separate drainfields and two separate backup fields for the two dwellings. (Note: Ms. Mattiole later noted that she had conducted a study of the bathroom usage by the children and found it to be 3/4 less than the measurement used by the Service Authority.) In response to Mr. Johnson's question about the age breakdown in condition No. 1, Ms. Mattiole stated it was significant only from an educational standpoint, and not from a planning standpoint. It was determined the school presently has four employees with no one residing in the cottage. Ms. Mattiole stated she was comfortable with the ceiling on enrollment. She also stated that she had no objection to connecting to public sewer if the cost is feasible. She noted that calculations, based on 1,000 feet distance would be approximately $10,000 vs. $6,000 for upgrading the drainfield. March 6, 1990 Page 8 Ms. Huckle again suggested the possibility of working with the Trinity Church. However, Ms. Mattiole pointed out that the distance for the Church is "enormous," because they are much farther away. Ms. Huckle pointed out that Trinity has no choice but to connect because that requirement is in place. (Mr" Keeler confirmed that Trinity is required to hook to the Maury Creek Inteceptcxr within 18 months, with an 8-inch line, for a cost of approximately $60,000. He explained that the Church's usage is much greater and it had been determined that they did not have adequate area for drainfields. It was noted that the alignment for the Trinity connection has not yet been determined,) Ms. Mattiole explained that she could not afford lengthy delays in the proceSs. She asked that action be taken on the special permit with the decision on the sewer connection delayed until the time of site plan review. She stressed that xu deferral of the special permit would create a real hardship. The Chairman invited public comment. The following persons expressed their support for the proposal: Ms. Genevieve Keller; Mr. Donald Day; Ms. Cindy Braonhoaarl Dr. Chris Asp1in; Mr. Denis Palmgrem; and Ms. Nancy Krent. There being no further public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. Ms. Huckle stressed that she had no concerns about the quality of the school itself or about the applicant, but she was concerned about the sewage system. She asked if it was possible to follow the possibility described by Mr. Fritz, 1.*a. take action on the special permit but defer a decision on the sewage facilities until the time of site plan when more information might be available. Mr. Rittenhouse felt that if the Commission was contemplating conditions requiring connection to public water, then "if we are to recommend approval without asimilar requirement for public sewer, then we should be prepared to continue on with that recommendation without the requirement for public sewer." He clarified; "Unless we state overtly at this point that we will require connection to public sewer, then it would be difficult for us to come back later and say 'now we are going to require it.' I think this is our opportunity to levy that condition if we think it's appropriate and we need to decide that now." Ms. Huckle noted that it was for the Commission to decide if the sewer was reasonably available. She stated: "And we haven't had any figures to tell us if this is reasonable or not. That's why I was suggesting that it come back to us rather than be approved administratively." 2 March 6, 1990 Page 9 Mr. Rittenhouse explained that the Commission could require that the site plan come back to the Commission. He added: "But I think the task before us is to determine whether we are going to condition the special permit to require that connection." He did not think it would be reasonable to require connection at the time of site plan if the special permit had not been so conditioned. Mr. Cilimberg thought it would be possible "to require that it come back to you for review with the preference for public sewer if that's what you feel you want. ... If it's not reasonably available to them in terms of cost, I think that's their biggest restriction. If there's Health Department approval of an alternative, then it can be decided at site plan. But that, for the applicant, may not help here because apparently the applicant is in a contract situation and I don't know that the special use permit approval tonight with that condition, and not knowing what's going to happen with the site plan, leaves her in a position to deal on her contract." Mr. Rittenhouse felt the Commission owed the applicant an answer, "one way or the other." Ms. Huckle again stated she felt the Commission "had not been provided with enough information to make an intelligent decision." Mr. Wilkerson expressed understanding of Ms. Huckle's concerns; however, he noted that the Health Department has given their approval and staff has no problems with that approval. He stated he would not question the Health Department's expertise. Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-90-01 for Michele Mattiole be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to the following conditions: 1. Enrollment will be limited to 12 children in the two-year old class and 25 children in the 3-6 class from September thru May. Mid -June to mid -August enrollment shall be limited to 25 children. (NOTE: This condition was later amended.) 2. Not fewer than 2 employees shall be present at all times during operation of day care center. 3. Fire Officer approval to include compliance with all requirements and recommendations listed in the December 22, 1989 letter to Michele Mattiole from Jay Schlothauer; 4. Compliance with Virginia Department of Transportation comments of February 21, 1990; a March 6, 1990 Page 10 5. Staff approval of plat showing required sight easements; S. Health Department approval of enlarged septic system; 7. Conneciton to public water; 8. Compliance with Section 5.1.8 of the Zoning Ordinance which states: a. No such use shall operate without licensure by the Virginia Department of Welfare as a child care center. It shall be the responsibility of the owner/operator to transmit to the Zoning Administrator a copy of the original license and all renewals thereafter and to notify the Zoning Administrator of any license expiration, suspension, or revocation within three (3) days of such event. Failure to do so shall be deemed willful non-compliance of this ordinance; b. Periodic inspection of the premises shall be made by the Albemarle County Fire Official at his discretion. Failure to promptly admit the fire official for such inspection shall be deemed willful non-compliance with the provisions of this ordinance; C. These provisions are supplementary and nothing stated herein shall be deemed to preclude application of the requirements of the Virginia Department of Welfare, Virginia Department of Health, Virginia State Fire Marshall, or any other local, state, or federal agency. 9. Staff approval of final site plan to be in general accord with sketch plan prepared by Frederick Schneider dated January 18, 1990. Staff may recommend additional plantings and relocation of recreation area at the time of final site plan review. Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion. Discussion: Noting that he was speaking with mixed emotions in view of the rather significant reputation held by the organization, Mr. Johnson made the following statement: "In recognition of the provisions and intent of: (1) Paragraphs 1.4 and 1.4.2, General Provisions, of the Zoning Ordinance, identifying objectives of promoting safety and reducing or preventing congestion in the public streets; and (2) An extrapolation of paragraph 10.5.2.1.b.8.o from the Special Use restrictions of the RA District to this R-4 District, opposing any increase of traffic /O March 6, 1990 Page 11 on an existing non -tolerable road; and reflecting on the statements by Mr. Echols in his letter of 21 February that 702 'is currently non -tolerable' and that this request 'would certainly result in an increase in traffic,' I must oppose this request." Mr. Rittenhouse asked that condition No. i be cleaned up. It was determined this condition would be amended to read: "Enrollment shall be limited to 37 children." (Both Mr. Wilkerson and Mr. Jenkins were agreeable to this change in the motion.) It was determined the motion contemplated staff approval of the final plat. Regarding the question of public sewer, Mr. Rittenhouse noted that it is always a difficult one and the question of "reasonable availability has been wrestled with a number of times." He stated it is difficult to quantify what constitutes reasonable availability. He noted that several factors must be considered when making this decision, e.g. distance from the property, terrain of the area, applicant's ability to bear the cost, availability of easements. He felt in this case it would be unreasonable to require that the applicant enlarge the existing septic system in order to operate for 18 months and then require connection to public sewer later. He felt it unreasonable to require both. He concluded that, to date, no precedent has been established for making the determination of "reasonable availability." Mr. Jenkins pointed out that the Health Department is satisfied that the proposal can meet their requirements. That being the case, he questioned whether it was the Commission's job to even make that type of determination. Mr. Jenkins asked that the Question be called. The previously stated motion for approval passed (5:2) with Commissioners Johnson and Huckle casting the dissenting votes. (Nate: Ms. Mattiole stated an easement would be required for connection to public sewer.) - The applicant is proposing to subdivide 102 acres into 16 lots with an average size of 2.7 acres. The proposed lots are to have access over proposed private roads and are to be served by individual septic fields and central water. Property is described as Tax Map 59A1, Parcels A, B, 19-23. The proposed development is located off of Broomley Road approximately one mile north of U.S. Rt. 250W in the Samuel Miller Magisterial District. The site is zoned PRD, Planned Residential Development with ZMA-80-16. March 6, 1990 Page 12 Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended approval subject to conditions. Mr. Rittenhouse noted that the Virginia Department of Transportation's comments had included a recommendation for "Approval of Rt. 677 right-of-way improvements and issuance of a commercial entrance permit." He asked why that had not been included in staff's recommended conditions. Mr. Fritz responded that it should have been included and could be added as condition 1(g)• Ms. Huckle asked if this would fall under new State regulations for private roads. Mr. Fritz responded negatively and explained that this development was approved with private roads with ZMA 80-16. Mr. Rittenhouse asked staff to comment on the status of public sewer for this proposal. Mr. Fritz explained that this property lies outside the jurisdictional area so public utilities are not available. Ms. Huckle asked staff to explain why the "road over the railroad" is now posted for a 15 ton limit. Mr. Fritz explained that he had not visited the site for some time, but there had been improvements recently which may have increased the weight limit. Mr. Cilimberg confirmed that the railroad bridge had been improved. Mr. Johnson noted that weight limits have been changed on several County bridges, some with improvements and some without. Mr. Cilimberg noted that this railroad bridge project will probably be in the Six -Year Road Plan. Mr. Grimm asked if the weight limit would allow a fire truck to cross. Mr. Fritz explained that the weight limit was sufficient to carry some fire equipment, but not all. He added: "One of the conditions is 'Fire Official approval of dry hydrant.' Fire hydrants, with water, are going to be provided at various sites so there will be adequate water on site once the vehicles reach the site, so (trucks) will not have to carry water with them (which is a major weight concern)." Ms. Huckle asked about the weights of construction vehicles. Mr, Fritz could not answer this question. Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Fritz to point out where construction is currently taking place. Mr. Johnson wondered how the vehicles "got there." Mr. Fritz did not know. Ms. Huckle noted that it would be advantageous to be able to use /.I March 6, 1990 Page 13 the railroad bridge because the the other two bridges are frequently under water. Mr. Fritz stated that if the weight limit on the railroad has indeed been increased, then it will provide a greater weight limit than the other bridges which are 10 and 12 tons. The applicant was represented by Ms. Martha Hardy of McKee - Carson, engineers for the project. She noted that improvements to the intersection of Rt. 677 are currently taking place. in response to Mr. Grimm's mention of some trees which have been removed, she explained this was necessary to improve sight distance. There being no public comment, the matter was placed before the Commission. Mr. Wilkerson moved that the Ivy Creek Phase IV Preliminary Plat be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. The final subdivision plat shall not be signed until the following conditions have been met: a. County Engineer approval of road and drainage plans and calculations; b. Department of Engineering issuance of an erosion control permit; c. Department of Engineering issuance of a runoff control permit; d. Albemarle County Service Authority approval of water plans; e. County Attorney approval of homeowner's agreement to include maintenance of roads, open space, lakes drainage and appurtenant structures and the use of open space for septic drainfields if necessary and where permitted; f. Fire Official approval of dry hydrant; g. Virginia Department of Transportation approval of Rt. 677 right-of-way improvements and issuance of a commercial entrance permit. Mr. Grimm seconded the motion which passed unanimously. MISCELLANEOUS Mr. Johnson expressed concern about the "intersection between the exit from 29 Bypass to 250W, going south, crossing B01, going under the bridge and up the other side." He stressed the high accident record of this location and asked that staff request that VDOT review this intersection for consideration of either 18 March 6, 1990 Page 14 installing a light and/or prohibiting any left turns from 250W onto the businesses at the north side at that intersection." He asked that VDOT be asked to respond within thirty days. Staff acknowledged that they would make VDOT aware of Mr. Johnson's concern but questioned the reality of a 30-day response time. Mr. Johnson also expressed an interest in sign restrictions. He noted in particular the streamers at the Colonial auto dealership on Rt. 29 North and asked if the sign restrictions might be interpreted in such a way as to control such displays. Mr. Cilimberg stated the Zoning Administrator has been looking into this issue. Mr. Fritz noted that the Colonial dealership would soon be before the Commission for a site plan amendment and the Commission could make their concerns known at that time. Ms.rHuckle asked if a roll call could be taken at the time votes are cast on motions. She was under the impression the State Code required a roll call. However, Mr. Bowling stated that a vote could be taken either with or without a roll call. Mr. Rittenhouse stated this suggestion would be taken under advisement. Mr.-Cilimberg noted that consideration is still being given as to how to recognize Commissioners whose terms ended at the end of 1989. He explained that staff has investigated the possibility of an inscribed commemorative cup. He asked for feedback as to the Commission's desires and haw they might wish to handle cost, etc. The possibility of a Resolution of Appreciation was also discussed. Mr. Wilkerson was definitively in favor of the resolution. Mr. Rittenhouse also noted he felt the cup was a good idea. The matter was to be decided upon at a later meeting. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:15 P.M. DS /�z