HomeMy WebLinkAbout10 29 1991 PC MinutesOCTOBER 29, 1991
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, October 29, 1991, Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those members
present were: Mr. Keith Rittenhouse, Chairman; Mr. Harry
Wilkerson, Vice Chairman; Ms. Ellen Andersen; Mr. Walter
Johnson; and Ms. Babs Huckle. Other officials present were:
Mr. David Benish, Chief of Community Development; Mr. Ron
Keeler, Chief of Planning; Ms. Yolanda Lipinski, Planner;
Mr. Rich Tarbell, Planner; Mr. Juandiego Wade, Planner; and
Mr. Jim Bowling, Deputy County Attorney. Absent:
Commissioners Jenkins and Grimm.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of
October 15, 1991 were approved as amended.
CONSENT AGENDA
Forest Lakes Townhouse "C" Final Site Plan_ - proposal to
construct 69 townhouse units on 10 acres zoned R-15,
Residential and EC, Entrance Corridor Overlay District.
Property, described as a portion of Tax Map 46B4, parcel 1.
is located on the west side of Timberwood Boulevard across
from its intersection with Worth Crossing in the Rivanna
Magisterial District. This site is located in a designated
growth area.
Mr. Tarbell briefly reviewed the item.
Mr. Wilkerson moved, seconded by Ms. Andersen, that the
Consent Agenda be approved. The motion passed unanimously.
SDP-91-079 - Michie Tavern Site Plan Amendment - Proposal to
relocate eight existing log cabins to support exhibits and
crafts. Property, described as Tax Map 77, Parcel 27 is
located on Route 53 behind the existing Michie Tavern site
Zoned RA, Rural Areas and EC, Entrance Corridor Overlay
District, this site is located in the Scottsville
Magisterial District. This site is not located in a
designated growth area.
Ms. Lipinski presented the staff report. The applicant was
requesting a modification of Section 4.2 to allow grading on
critical slopes. Both the Planning staff and the
Engineering Department supported this request. Staff
recommended approval subject to conditions.
Mr. Johnson expressed surprise that this building is not
listed on any historical register. (The applicant later
explained that the tavern is not currently listed on any
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historical register; however, application is being made
again. The problem has been that the structure does not sit
on its original site, having been moved to the current site
in 1927.)
The applicant was represented by Mr. Greg McDonald. He
answered Mr. Johnson's question related to listing on an
historical register. He offered no significant additional
comment.
The Chairman invited public comment.
Mr. William Viswanger, representing the Thomas Jefferson
Memorial Foundation, owners and operators of Monticello,
addressed the Commission. He expressed concern about the
"handling of the slopes and the preservation of vegetation"
given the visibility of the curve in which the buildings
will be placed.
Mr. Brian Smith, engineer for the project, commented on the
slope issue. He explained that the steeper slopes (over
25%) are on the western side of the courtyard. He stated
that currently the plan is at the preliminary design stage
and the slopes will be looked at closer to see if grading
can be minimized even more. He mentioned the possibility of
tiering or retaining walls which are not shown on the
current plan. The applicant is interested in keeping the
rustic character of the site and that includes preserving as
many trees as possible.
Looking at the applicant's drawing, Mr. Johnson interpreted
that approximately 75% to 80% of the square footage to the
southwest is critical slope. Mr. Smith pointed out the
"limits of construction" in relation to the area described
by Mr. Johnson.
In response to Mr. Rittenhouse's question, Mr. Smith
estimated the slopes were 25% to 30%. He explained that
final contours will be 2:1.
Mr. Rittenhouse asked if the applicant would have any
objections to some sort of surface treatment on the exposed
side of the retaining walls, if so required by the ARB. Mr.
Smith reponded that the retaining walls would be either
railroad ties or stone (as currently exist at the tavern)
He did not think concrete was a possibility (as mentioned by
Mr. Rittenhouse).
Mr. Greg McDonald explained that the proposed site plan
would allow the applicant to offer a greater variety of
educational exhibits to visitors. Each building will be
architecturally accurate for the time period it will
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represent. Buildings will be disassembled and stored while
site work is taking place and then will be reassembled. He
stated exhibits will be strictly educational and no sales
will take place.
Ms. Marsha Joseph was present to represent the
Architectural Review Board. No questions were asked of her.
There being no further applicant or public comment the
matter was placed before the Commission.
Mr. Keeler explained the history of the special permit for
the tavern, including the history of the easement.
Ms. Buckle wondered if Commission action should be delayed
until grading plans are more definite.
Mr. Keeler explained the sequence of the approval process.
He concluded: "I think it is appropriate for the Commission
to authorize the activity. They still have to satisfy the
Engineering Department in terms of the technical aspects of
the design and the aesthetic aspect will be left to the
determination of the ARB."
Mr. Johnson expressed extreme concern about the slope issue_
He indicated he agreed with Ms. Huckle.
Mr. Rittenhouse noted that staff was requesting
administrative approval of the final site plan. However, he
stated that the Commission could choose to review the final
site plan if so desired. (Condition No. 2 would be
deleted.) He noted that the current request contemplates
a waiver of Section 4.2 to allow building on critical slopes
and once approval is given to this site plan amendment, "we
have acknowledged that we are willing to have that grading
take place and then we might logically say that we can rely
on staff to insure that the proper measures are in place on
the final site plan to satisfy our concerns." He felt it
was appropriate to leave the aesthetic issues to the ARB.
Mr. Rittenhouse noted that either the Commission, or staff,
whichever reviews the final site plan, will have to be
satisfied that the grading is appropriate or approval will
not be granted.
Both Commissioners Johnson and Huckle expressed the desire
to review the final site plan.
Ms. Huckle moved that the Michie Tavern Site Plan be
approved subject to the following conditions:
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1. The Planning Department shall not accept submittal of
the final site plan for signature until tentative approvals
for the following conditions have been obtained. The final
site plan shall not be signed until the following conditions
are met:
a. Department of Engineering approval of grading
and drainage plans and calculations;
b. Department of Engineering approval of
retaining wall design;
c. Department of Engineering issuance of an
erosion control permit;
d. Issuance of a Certificate of Appropriateness
from the Architectural Review Board.
Mr. Johnson seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
The motion did NOT include administrative approval of the
final site plan.
WORK SESSION
Six Year Road Plan - First work session to discuss Six Year
Secondary Road Plan issues.
Mr. Banish presented the staff report. He was assisted by
Mr. Jeff Echols, representing the Virginia Department of
Transportation.
Commission comments:
Huckle - She wondered if the bridge at Advance Mills should
remain on the list since she was aware there was
neighborhood opposition to the project. (Mr. Benish stated
staff was not aware of any strong opposition from
residents.) Ms. Huckle also expressed extreme concern about
project No. 30 (the intersection at the airport). She felt
it should be moved higher on the list. In the meantime, she
suggested that the signage be studied to see if the traffic
patterns and habits can be improved.
Johnson - He asked how the condition of bridges in relation
to their being able to accommodate rescue vehicles is
factored into determinations. He noted particularly
existing bridges which have insufficient weight limit
ratings. He noted concern about response time if a bridge
cannot be crossed by a heavy vehicle.
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Mr Johnson also interpreted that the priority list seemed
to be different than what had been stated in information
given to the Commission in May, 1991. Mr. Benish and Mr.
Echols both stated that the priorties had not changed, but
some items may move through the process quicker than others
because of "incremental funding." Mr. Johnson asked that
staff try to more clearly represent the status of projects
in future reports.
Mr. Johnson also asked questions about total funding. He
noted that more money is anticipated next year and wondered
how this could be when State officials have recently stated
there would be a decrease in funding. Mr. Benish and Mr.
Echols explained that it was "significantly less than what
was projected in the '90 plan."
There was some discussion about the Berkmar Connector Road.
Staff explained that a substantial portion of the road will
have to be built by County funds. Ms. Huckle expressed
concern about the new elementary school being finished
before the road is built.
Mr. Johnson also recommended that "these anticipated dollar
figures be reviewed and upgraded to the maximum extent
possible." He found it difficult to believe that funding
would approach last year's level.
Mr. Johnson expressed the feeling that the Virginia
Department of Transportation's criteria based rating system
was "fatally defective because it does not address, at any
priority level 'highway safety."' He felt this was a "fatal
error in the planning cycle of the County relative to all
roads."
The Commission expressed no objection to the four
recommendations highlighted by staff: i.e. (1) No change
in the ranking of the first 28 projects; (2) Priority No.
22 be split into two projects; (3) The County"s continued
participation in the Revenue Sharing Program; and (4)
Continuance of the minimum funding allocation policy related to
unpaved roads.
Staff was to review again all bridge projects.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
8:40.
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