HomeMy WebLinkAbout11 20 90 PC MinutesNOVEMBER 20, 1990
The Albemarle County Planning Commission held a public
hearing on Tuesday, November 20, 1990, Meeting Room 7,
County Office Building, Charlottesville, Virginia. Those
members present were: Mr. Keith Rittenhouse, Chairman; Mr.
Harry Wilkerson, Vice Chairman; Mr. Phil Grimm; Mr. Tom
Jenkins; Ms. Ellen Andersen; and Ms. Babs Huckle. Other
officials present were: Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Director of
Planning and Community Development; Mr. Ronald Keeler, Chief
of Planning; Mr. Bill Fritz, senior Planner; and Mr. George
St. John, County Attorney. Absent: Commissioner Johnson.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. and
established that a quorum was present. The minutes of
October 30, 1990 and November 6, 1990 were approved as
amended.
Mr. Fritz presented a brief preview of the Consent Agenda
scheduled for the November 27th meeting.
ZMA-90-19 Frank Kessler - The applicant is proposing to
rezone 1,195.02 acres from RA, Rural Areas, to PRD, Planned
Residential Development (PROFFERED). Property is described
as Tax Map 79D, Section 3, Parcels 6 and 7 and Tax Map 93,
Parcels 59 and 60 and Tax Map 94, Parcel 2 and 11. The site
is bordered by Route 250 on the north and by the Rivanna
River on the south and west. This site is located in the
Rivanna Magisterial District and is within a designated
growth area.
Mr. Keeler presented a summary of a very lengthy staff
report. The report stated: "Staff opinion is that the
Glenmore Development complies with the nine specific
recommendations for the Rivanna Village as adopted into the
Comprehensive Plan by the Board of Supervisors in December,
1989." Mr. Keeler concluded: "Staff opinion is that the
Glenmore PRD provides a public benefit beyond simple
compliance with the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map and
recommends approval of ZMA-90-19 Glenmore Planned
Residential Development subject to acceptance of the
applicant's proffers together with modifications as outlined
above pursuant to 8.5.4(d) of the Zoning Ordinance."
The applicant, Mr. Frank Kessler, addressed the Commission.
Using several charts, Mr. Kessler described the history of
the development to date. The charts showed slope, soil and
wetland analyses. Mr. Kessler described in some detail the
Master Plan. He presented several slides showing the
proposed locations of roads. He noted that less units are
being proposed now than were originally proposed and that
some additional property has also been added, i.e. 50 less
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units are being proposed and 145 acres have been added. He
noted that this change was the result of efforts to protect
the environment and respect the restraints of the property.
He stated that his most significant concern throughout the
process has been to safeguard the environment. He explained
the plans for the golf course.
Ms. Huckle asked if the setbacks would apply just to the
golf cottages or if they would apply "across the board?"
Mr. Lee Mallen, a planner for the project, explained that
there would be two sets of setbacks, i.e. a standard one for
the conventional houses which would be similar to County
requirements and a 110" lot line setback which allows for
patio homes to be built.
Ms. Huckle also commented on the cash proffer and asked how
much the mineral rights were worth. Mr. Kessler responded
that the entire mineral rights had been appraised at $1,800.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Wilkerson stated he agreed with the staff's
recommendations and moved that ZMA-90-19 be recommended to
the Board of Supervisors for approval subject to acceptance
of the applicant's proffers and with a recommendation for
the approval of private roads.
Ms. Huckle seconded the motion.
Discussion:
In response to Mr. Jenkins' question about the proffer
dealing with the school site, Mr. Keeler explained that the
applicant had agreed that the property dedicated for a
school site could be used for some other public use if it is
later determined that a school is not necessary.
The motion for approval passed unanimously.
ZTA-90-11 Sperry Marine - Request to amend Section 5.8
Temporary Non-residential Mobile Homes, to allow temporary
office trailers without site plan approval for a permanent
structure.
Mr. Keeler presented the staff report and explained the
proposed amendment. The report explained the purpose to be
served by the amendment was "to accommodate unforeseen or
temporary increased space demands at existing uses."
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The applicant was represented by Mr. Bill Finley. He
explained that his company often has increased space needs
which are of a temporary nature. He stated that it was
hoped that the company will be able to house the additional
employees in a permanent structure by the time the temporary
permits expire. He noted that this amendment would also be
useful for the Education Department which often has
fluctuating needs for space.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. Jenkins moved that ZTA-90-11 for Sperry Marine, to amend
Section 5.8 related to the usage of temporary mobile units,
be recommended to the Board of Supervisors for approval as
submitted by staff (see ATTACHMENT A).
Mr. Grimm seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
ZTA-90-12 Albemarle County Public Schools - Request to amend
Section 4.12.6.6.2 to require parking for elementary schools
(K-5) at a rate of one space per twenty students plus one
space per staff member.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. The report explained
the purpose to be served by the amendment was "to provide
reasonable parking schedules for elementary and middle
schools."
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Ms. Huckle moved that ZTA-90-12 for Albemarle County Public
Schools, to amend Section 4.12.6.6.2 related to parking for
elementary schools, be recommended to the Board of
Supervisors for approval as presented by staff (see
ATTACHMENT B).
Ms. Andersen seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
TA-90-08 John Townsend - Request to amend Section 27, LI,
Light Industry zone to allow arboriculture sales by special
use permit and to amend Definitions.
ZTA-90-09 John Townsend - Request to amend Section 27, LI,
Light Industry zone to allow arboriculture sales by -right
and amend Definitions.
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ZTA-90--09 John Townsend - Request to amend section 27.2.1(9)
to read "contractor's office and equipment storage yard.
For landscaping contractors, arboriculture sales may be
maintained upon premises provided that Section 5.1.24 of the
Ordinance notwithstanding, such arboricultural sales shall
not exceed one-third of the floor area of the main
contractor's office and storage yard use." Request also to
amend Definitions.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report for these requests. He
summarized the three requests as follows: " One would allow
it by -right; one would include it as part of contractor's
office and storage yard; and one would allow it by special
use permit." He explained all three requests contemplated a
definition for arboriculture sales. Staff was recommending
approval of ZTA-90-08 only (allowing the use by special use
permit) .
The applicant, Mr. John (Jay) Townsend, addressed the
Commission. He stated he was agreeable to ZTA--90-08 as
recommended by staff.
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. St. John expressed confusion as to exactly what was
being proposed. It was determined that staff was
recommending only ZTA 90-08. Mr. St. John expressed a lack
of understanding as to why this amendment was needed to
allow the applicant to "do what he was proposing to do."
Mr. St. John stated: "If you just enact these two
amendments, you are going to have a use which is defined and
permitted but it is automatically going to be subject to the
square footage limitation that we're trying to avoid." Mr.
Keeler disagreed. He called Mr. St. John's attention to No.
3 on page 154 of the Ordinance. He explained: "You see
that reference to 5.1.24? That limitation is explicit as to
that particular list of uses...." Mr. Cilimberg added:
"The Zoning Administrator has interpreted that only where
there is a reference to a particular supplementary
regulation for a particular use, does that supplementary
regulation apply. By not referencing 5.1.24 for this
amended use, that supplementary regulation would not apply
under the interpretation of the Ordinance." Mr. Keeler
added: "And also by defining it as at least partially
retail in character."
Mr. St. John asked: "If retail sales are subordinate to
whatever else they are going to do in an arbory, my question
is, doesn't that apply?" He noted that staff had indicated
that the Zoning Administrator has ruled that it doesn't
apply. He indicated he had not been aware of this
interpretation.
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Mr. Rittenhouse asked for clarification as to whether or not
a space limitation was going to apply. Mr. Keeler stated
that such a limitation could be applied in a special use
permit review "to make it compatible with the area in which
it is located."
(NOTE: The Commission discussed these proposals briefly and
unanimously recommended approval of ZTA-90-08 and also
unanimously recommended denial of ZTA-90-09 and ZTA-90-10.
However, later in the meeting, as a result of comments made
by the County Attorney in relation to ZMA-89-16 and
SP-90-108 for John Townsend, the Commission unanimously
voted to reconsider all three of these proposals and then
unanimously voted to indefinitely defer action on all three.
Comments which follow will explain this action.)
ZMA-89-16 John Townsend - Request in accordance with Section
33.2.1 of the Zoning Ordinance to rezone 9.9 acres from R-1,
Residential to HC, Highway Commercial. Property,described as
Tax Map 32, Parcel 22B is located on the west side of Rt.
29N approximately 2,000 feet south of the bridge over the
North Fork Rivanna River. Rivanna Magisterial District.
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SP-90-108 John Townsend - The applicant is requesting an
arbory on 10.3 acres zoned LI, Light Industry. Request is
being reviewed concurrent with ZTA-90-08 and ZMA-89-16.
Property, described as Tax Map 32, Parcel 22B is located on
the west side of Rt. 29N approximately 2,000 feet south of
the bridge over the North Fork Rivanna River in the Rivanna
Magisterial District.
Mr. Fritz presented the staff report. Staff recommended
approval of the ZMA subject to acceptance of the applicant's
proffer No. 2 and approval of the SP subject to conditions.
Ms. Huckle raised a question about the closing of a
crossover. Mr. Fritz stated that could be addressed at the
time of site plan review, or it could be made a condition of
the special permit. Ms. Huckle also expressed interest in
the zoning on the surrounding property.
The applicant, Mr. Townsend, again addressed the Commission.
He explained it was his desire to continue his landscape
contractor business and to operate an arbory. He explained
the layout of the plan in some detail. Regarding the
crossover issue, he explained that the "old" crossover will
be closed. He stated that he felt the proposed use would be
a very attractive use for the property, given the industrial
area in which it is located. He also noted that the use
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would provide an outlet for local agricultural and forestal
products. He read a list of local nurseries which sell
wholesale plants.
Ms. Huckle expressed concern about the visibility of the
equipment storage yard from adjacent properties. She asked
if this could be screened. Mr. Townsend indicated a
willingness to provide evergreen screening to "soften
whatever exposure we might have."
There being no public comment, the matter was placed before
the Commission.
Mr. St. John expressed a lack of understanding of the
difference between what was being proposed and a retail
nursery. He asked the applicant to distinguish between his
proposed use and Ivy Nursery. (Note: Mr. St. John used Ivy
Nursery as an example.)
Mr. Townsend explained that Ivy Nursery is a retail nursery
and greenhouse and sells a wide variety of items,
"everything from Christmas ornaments to large trees and
shrubs." He stated his business will market the same trees
and shrubs used in his landscape business.
Mr. St. John pointed out that Ivy Nursery markets the same
type of "trees, shrubs and flowers." Mr. St. John was
unable to make a distinction between the two types of uses.
He noted: "I don't understand why they aren't the same.
This definition says that a retail nursery shall not be
deemed arboriculture sales."
Mr. Fritz stated: "The items you can buy at Ivy Nursery
include things that are included in the definition of
arboriculture sales, such as the 'sale of floral and
similarly sized items.' Mr. Townsend wouldn't be selling
those same kind of items that you can but in a retail
(nursery)." He confirmed that a retail nursery "can do
everything he's going to do, but they do more." Mr.
Cilimberg pointed out that Mr. Townsend's business would not
include "accessory types of sales."
Mr. St. John continued to try to differentiate between the
two uses. He asked: "Are we sure, if we enact this
definition, that we will be able to distinguish between
which is a retail nursery and which is an arboriculture
sales?" He expressed a lack of understanding as to how that
distinction could be made. Mr. Fritz stated: "My
discussions with the Zoning Administrator, today, are that
she can (make that distinction)."
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It was determined there was no definition of "retail
nursery" in the Ordinance.
Mr. St. John again stated that he could not understand why
an amendment was necessary for this use to take place.
Mr. Rittenhouse explained briefly some of the history of the
proposal. He stated that it had been the Commission's
concern "whether this ancillary sale would indeed be
ancillary to a contractor's business, or whether a
contractor's business would be ancillary to retail sales_"
He felt this had been the overriding concern.
Mr. St. John stated that though he understood the
Commission's concern, "you don't cure something like that by
coming up with a new definition tailor-made simply to fit
one business without considering the effect of this." He
felt that adoption of this new definition would make all the
existing nurseries non -conforming and nurseries would only
be permitted in the LI zone if this amendment were to be
enacted. He felt a nursery would also fit the proposed
definition of arboriculture sales. He again stated he could
not distinguish between the two.
Mr. St. John apologized for not having discussed this issue
with staff earlier, but he repeated that he was not able to
follow staff's reasoning.
Mr. Keeler disagreed with Mr. St. John's interpretation. He
explained: "It says that retail nurseries shall not be
deemed to be arboricultural sales; it does not say that
arboricultural sale is not a sub -set or sub -division of
retail nurseries."
Mr. St. John asked: "If they are a sub -division of retail
nurseries, then why can they not go anywhere that retail
nurseries can go now without this amendment?" Mr. Keeler
responded: "They can. Retail nurseries cannot go in the LI
zone." Mr. St. John concluded: "Then this is tailor-made
simply to let this activity --this applicant --go on a certain
piece of land."
Mr. Keeler responded: "A number of years ago (it was
discovered) that we don't have what a number of other
localities have --a term like Warehouse Commercial --which is
a very low intensity type of use. His sale of trees,
compared to the volume of sale of Christmas Cactus and that
sort of seasonal item which occurs in greenhouses --his sale
per square footage of site, is going to be comparatively
low. ... The notion of this was to accommodate this
low -intensity use that has a retail character to it within
the LI zone as we have done in the past with warehouse and
wholesale type uses...."
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Mr. Rittenhouse indicated he, too, was having some problem
with the distinction between the two uses.
Mr. St. John repeated: "If you enact this, you're saying
that any business whose primary concern --it doesn't say sole
concern --any business whose primary concern is the
cultivation and sale of trees and shrubs --they're going to
become non -conforming in any district except the LI
district."
Mr. St. John indicated that a way to distinguish between the
two was to reference the landscape contractor's aspect of
the operation, but that had not been done in the proposed
amendment.
Mr. Cilimberg stated that if that was a concern of the
Commission, staff did consider language which would include
the landscape contracting aspect of the business. He felt
it could be included. He also stated: "To address George's
concern, there will have to be something in the definition
of arboriculture sales that distinguishes this as a use
consistent with the LI distict...."
Mr. St. John asked why Landscape Contractor could not simply
be added as a use in the LI district and allow landscape
contractors to have an ancillary retail outlet which is
already under the Supplementary Regulations.
Mr. Rittenhouse noted that intensity of use had been a
concern of the Commission, i.e. the level of activity was
more a concern than the type of material sold. He agreed
that further work on the definition was warranted.
He asked that the Commission consider a reconsideration of
ZTA-90-08 (on which the Commission had just acted).
Mr. Keeler suggested: "If Mr. St. John's overriding concern
with the definition is that if you include arboriculture it
excludes retail nurseries, why not simply add, in the
next -to -the -last sentence, 'Retail nurseries and greenhoues
shall not be deemed arboriculture sales; however,
arboriculture sales shall be permitted under retail
nurseries and greenhouses."'
Mr. Rittenhouse felt this might clarify the issue.
Mr. St. John again asked: "If they are a sub -use under
retail nurseries, then why can't they go anywhere that a
retail nursery can go without this rezoning?" Mr. Keeler
responded: "The problem is retail nurseries can't go in the
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Rural Areas and they can't go in the Light Industrial Areas,
they can only go in the Commercial areas." Mr. St. John
asked: "And that's too expensive?" Mr. Keeler replied:
"It's staff opinion that there are certain types of uses
that are of a commercial nature but are relatively not land
intensive to be able to justify the competition."
Based on the conservation that had just taken place, and
particularly on Mr. St. John's comments, Mr. Wilkerson moved
that ZTA-90-08 be reconsidered.
Ms. Huckle seconded the motion which passed unanimously.
Mr. Cilimberg commented that the staff had not had the
opportunity to get Mr. St. John's input before the meeting.
He apologized to the applicant.
Mr. Rittenhouse pointed out to the applicant that the
Commission must consider zoning text amendments in the
context of their total effects on the County as a whole and
not on just one particular applicant.
Mr. Townsend expressed no opposition to a deferral. He did
ask that the Commission reconsider the other two ZTA's also.
Mr. Wilkerson then moved that ZTA-90-08 be indefinitely
deferred. Ms. Huckle seconded the motion which passed
unanimously.
Mr. Wilkerson then moved that ZTA-90-09 and ZTA-90-10 be
reconsidered. Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion which passed
unanimously.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that ZTA-90-09 and ZTA-90-10 be
indefinitely deferred. Ms. Andersen seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that ZMA-89-16 for John Townsend be
indefinitely deferred. Ms. Andersen seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
Mr. Wilkerson moved that SP-90-102 for John Townsend be
indefinitely deferred. Mr. Jenkins seconded the motion
which passed unanimously.
Mr. Rittenhouse explained that these deferrals were "driven
by the need to have the County Attorney get with the
applicant and staff to work out a definition for this type
of use which is clearly differentiated from retail nurseries
which, at this point, contemplates a higher, more intensive
zoning."
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There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
10:18 P.M.
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