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From: Megan Yaniglos
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:59 AM
To: Ammy George
Cc: Johnathan Newberry; Bill Ledbetter; Leslie Tate; John Anderson
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20 & 21 - Road
Plans.
Ammy:
This road was included in the ZMA request for a private street that is going to the Board for approval tonight.
That being said, this is just approval that this road can be private, it still needs to meet the design and details
that were required under this road plan review. So if approval is given tonight, all the comments still remain
and need to be addressed before the road plans can be approved.
Megan Yaniglos, AICP
Principal Planner
Community Development Department
Planning Services
ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004
From: Ammy George [mailto:AGeorge@roudabush.com]
Sent:Tuesday, February 09, 2016 1:28 PM
To: Megan Yaniglos<myaniglos@albemarle.org>
Cc:Johnathan Newberry<jnewberry@albemarle.org>
Subject: FW: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20 & 21 - Road Plans.
Good afternoon Megan,
I was hoping to find out the status of the application SUB201500197. Do you know if it has gone before
the Board? Of if not, when it is scheduled to go?
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COMMONWEALTH of VIRGINIA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
1601 Orange Road
Culpeper,Virginia 22701
Charles A.Kilpatrick,P.P.
Commissioner
November 24,2015
Mr.J.T.Newberry
County of Albemarle
Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,VA 22902
Re: SUB-2015-00197 Old Trail Village Block 5,20 and 21 Private Street Request
Dear Mr.Newberry,
The Old Trail Village Block 5, 20 and 21 Private Street Request, with the latest revision date of
September 19, 2015, has been reviewed. It is understood that this is a conceptual layout and we
offer the following comments to be addressed during the site plan submittal:
1. The intersection site distance lines should be shown based on the design speed.
2. Block 5 Drive should be placed directly across from the entrance into future Block 26.
Also,the Streets should intersect at right angles.
If you need further information concerning this project, or if you wish to schedule a meeting,
please do not hesitate to contact me at(434)422-9894.
Sincerely,
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Shelly A. Plaster
Land Development Engineer
Culpeper District
701 VDOT Way
Charlottesville, Virginia 22911
WE KEEP VIRGINIA MOVING
Johnathan Newberry
From: Ammy George <AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:02 AM
To: Johnathan Newberry
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20 &21 - Road
Plans.
Just got it. Thanks, that is what we were hoping to address at the moment.
Antm/j George
From:Johnathan Newberry [mailto:jnewberry@albemarle.org]
Sent:Tuesday, November 17, 2015 9:58 AM
To:Ammy George<AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20& 21- Road Plans.
Yes. I tried to send the attached email. Did you receive it?
From:Ammy George [mailto:AGeorge@roudabush.com]
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 10:16 AM
To:Johnathan Newberry<inewberry@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20&21- Road Plans.
Good morning JT, I haven't heard back about the process for our requested variations. Did you a Megan
get a chance to talk?
f}vunte George
From:Johnathan Newberry [mailto:inewberry@albemarle.org]
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:36 PM
To:Ammy George<AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman<dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Megan Yaniglos
<myaniglos@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20&21- Road Plans.
Hi Ammy,
Thanks for your voicemail.
I've briefly reviewed John's comments and I think I understand your question.
I will need some time to get a final answer because this process is atypical, but I think we will likely be dividing his
comments between what's relevant and necessary for the Variation Applications (going to the Board under Section
8.5.5.3 VARIATIONS FROM APPROVED PLANS, CODES,AND STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENTS) and what's relevant for the
Private Street Authorization Request(going to the PC under Chapter 14-234).These answers are the next step of what I
described in my email on 10/29.
Megan and I plan to discuss it following our distribution meeting tomorrow afternoon. I'll plan to provide additional
information following that meeting.
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Thanks,
J.T.
From:Ammy George [mailto:AGeorge@roudabush.com]
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 9:27 AM
To:Johnathan Newberry<jewberry@albemarle.org>; Megan Yaniglos<myaniglos@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman<dave@oldtrailvillage.com>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20&21- Road Plans.
Good morning JT and Megan,
I would like to talk with one or both of you about the actual process for the Variations and Private Street
Authorization Requests. I am afraid that I am missing something after receiving John's comments about
requiring a road plan. We were not anticipating this requirement; the submitted plan was for illustrative
purposes to go along with the requested variations and private street authorization.
A-1441/148 George, CL 4
Roudabush, Gale and Associates
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, Virginia 22902
434-977-0205 office
434-296-5220 fax
From:John Anderson [mailto:janderson2@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:05 PM
To:Ammy George<AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman<dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Glenn Brooks
<GBROOKS@albemarle.org>;Johnathan Newberry<jewberry@albemarle.org>; Mark Graham
<mgraham@albemarle.orr>
Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20&21 - Road Plans.
The Review for the following application has been completed:
Application Number=SUB201500197
Reviewer =John Anderson
Review Status = Requested Changes
Completed Date = 11/05/2015
Thanks for your patience.
Attached also available in County CV database system.
434.296-5832—x3069
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Johnathan Newberry
From: Johnathan Newberry
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 5:46 PM
To: 'Ammy George'
Cc: 'Bill Ledbetter'; 'David Brockman'; Megan Yaniglos; John Anderson
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20 &21 - Road
Plans.
Attachments: SUB201500197-OId Trail Village blocks 5 20 21_pvt_street_110515Jtn.pdf
Ammy,
I've highlighted John's comments in yellow that need to be addressed prior to the Board's consideration of the
variations. Providing these details and changes helps to demonstrate that the changes being requested meet each of the
five criteria for variations shown below.They also assist the Board's and the public's understanding of the potential
impacts of the request.
(1) is consistent with the goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan;
(2) does not increase the approved development density or intensity of development;
(3) does not adversely affect the timing and phasing of development of any other development in the zoning
district;
(4) does not require a special use permit; and
(5) is in general accord with the purpose and intent of the approved application.
After the Board considers the variations,then the Planning Commission will consider the private street authorization
request.John's comment#8 asks for a "road plan," but the information needed to process this request is actually found
in 14-234(a)(1)(a) and (b).
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Sec. 14-234 Procedure to authorize private street and related matters.
Requests under sections 14-232 and 14-233 shall be submitted, processed and acted upon as
follows:
A. A subdivider shall submit a request in writing to the agent at the time of the submittal of
the preliminary plat or may,within the development areas,submit the written request prior to submittal of a
preliminary plat or with an application to rezone the land.
1. The request shall state the reasons and justifications for the request, and shall
particularly address one or more applicable bases for granting the request as identified in sections 14-232 or
14-233,and each of the five findings identified in paragraph(C)required to be made.
(a) The request shall include: (i) a map of the subdivision having contour
intervals of not greater than twenty (20) feet showing the horizontal alignment; (ii) field-run profiles and
typical cross-sections of the proposed streets;(iii)the maximum number of lots to be served by each private
street; and (iv) documentation explaining how the perpetual maintenance of the private street including,
within the development areas, the curb, curb and gutter, sidewalks, and planting strip landscaping will be
funded,and identifying the person or entity that will be responsible for maintaining the improvements. The
county engineer may waive the requirement for the field-run profile in the case of an existing street or
where deemed appropriate due to topography,or if the topographic map is based on aerial or field collected
data with a contour interval accuracy of five (5) vertical feet or better. A request under section 14-
232(A)(1)shall include earthwork computations demonstrating significant degradation.
(b) If the request is made prior to submittal of a preliminary plat or with an
application to rezone the land, it also shall include: (i) a justification for the request (ii) a vicinity map
showing a larger street network at a scale no smaller than one(1)inch equals six hundred(600)feet;(iii)a
conceptual plan at a scale no smaller than one (1) inch equals two hundred (200) feet showing surveyed
boundaries of the property; (iv)topography of the property at five(5)foot intervals for the property being
subdivided and on abutting lands to a distance of five hundred(500)feet from the boundary line or a lesser
distance determined to be sufficient by the agent;(v)the locations of streams,stream buffers,steep slopes,
floodplains, known wetlands; (vi)the proposed layout of streets and lots, unit types, uses, and location of
parking, as applicable; (vii) proposed private street profiles; and (viii)the maximum number of lots to be
served.
If you would still like to discuss, then please let me know and I'll give you a call.
Thanks,
J.T. Newberry
Planner
County of Albemarle, Planning Division
434-296-5832, ext. 3270
From:Johnathan Newberry
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:36 PM
To: 'Ammy George' <AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman <dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Megan Yaniglos
<myaniglos@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20& 21 - Road Plans.
Hi Ammy,
Thanks for your voicemail.
I've briefly reviewed John's comments and I think I understand your question.
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I will need some time to get a final answer because this process is atypical, but I think we will likely be dividing his
comments between what's relevant and necessary for the Variation Applications (going to the Board under Section
8.5.5.3 VARIATIONS FROM APPROVED PLANS, CODES,AND STANDARDS OF DEVELOPMENTS) and what's relevant for the
Private Street Authorization Request(going to the PC under Chapter 14-234).These answers are the next step of what I
described in my email on 10/29.
Megan and I plan to discuss it following our distribution meeting tomorrow afternoon. I'll plan to provide additional
information following that meeting.
Thanks,
J.T.
From: Ammy George [mailto:AGeorge@roudabush.com]
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 9:27 AM
To:Johnathan Newberry<inewbei-ry@albemarle.org>; Megan Yaniglos<myaniglos@albemarle.org>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman <dave@oldtrailvillage.com>
Subject: RE: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20& 21 - Road Plans.
Good morning JT and Megan,
I would like to talk with one or both of you about the actual process for the Variations and Private Street
Authorization Requests. I am afraid that I am missing something after receiving John's comments about
requiring a road plan. We were not anticipating this requirement; the submitted plan was for illustrative
purposes to go along with the requested variations and private street authorization.
,4-144,14t1 4eor e, CLA-
Roudabush, Gale and Associates
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, Virginia 22902
434-977-0205 office
434-296-5220 fax
From:John Anderson [mailto:ianderson2@albemarle.org]
Sent:Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:05 PM
To: Ammy George <AGeorge@roudabush.com>
Cc: Bill Ledbetter<BLedbetter@roudabush.com>; David Brockman <dave@oldtrailvillage.com>; Glenn Brooks
<GBROOKS@albemarle.org>;Johnathan Newberry<iewberry@albemarle.org>; Mark Graham
<mgraham@albemarle.org>
Subject: Planning Application Review for SUB201500197 Old Trail Village, Blks. 5, 20& 21 - Road Plans.
The Review for the following application has been completed:
Application Number = SUB201500197
Reviewer = John Anderson
Review Status = Requested Changes
Completed Date = 11/05/2015
Thanks for your patience.
Attached also available in County CV database system.
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Johnathan Newberry
From: Johnathan Newberry
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2015 2:07 PM
To: 'David Brockman'
Cc: Mark Graham; Wayne Cilimberg; David Benish; Glenn Brooks; Megan Yaniglos; John
Anderson; Rebecca Ragsdale; 'Bill Ledbetter; 'Leslie Tate'; 'Ammy George'
Subject: RE: block 5_20_21
Attachments: OTV Block 5 Layout 09192015.pdf
Hi Dave,
I have spoken to Mark and received clarification on the attached drawing.
I think it's very important to note that there comments should be considered ADVISORY ONLY. Official comments
cannot be provided until an application has been submitted.
With that said, I believe the question is"Would Planning and Engineering support the attached drawing by
recommending the necessary variations and private street request be heard on the consent agenda of the BOS and PC
respectively?"
Planning and Engineering would likely look favorably on the attached drawing by recommending the necessary
variations be considered on the consent agenda of the BOS and recommending the private street request (with all of its
waivers/modifications) be considered on the consent agenda by the PC. Any additional information provided or
requested during the review of an application may change this view. Under the existing Code of Development, here is a
list of the necessary variations:
1. To remove the connection between Golf Drive and Old Trail Drive (identified as B Street on Sheet 4 of the
approved Application Plan).
2. To classify E Street between Blocks 5 and 20, as well as B Street adjacent to Block 5 ("Block 5 Drive") as a private
street, which are currently designated as public streets in Table 3 of the Application Plan (p. 23). This variation
would also be needed for Block 6 in the future.
3. To remove the sidewalk along the frontage of Block 21 and along the western side of"Block 5 Drive." Street
trees are assumed as being provided on both sides of Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive.
4. The exhibit doesn't identify the height of the proposed structures, but Blocks 20 and 21 are in the CT4 zone so
they may require a variation for height and/or spatial enclosure. Table 6A(p. 36)shows the maximum number
of stories is 3.5 and the maximum average eave height is 40' if there is 80'from face to face of primary building.
Here's comment on the private street request:
• A private street authorization request would be required for the Planning Commission to authorize Upland
Drive and Block 5 Drive as a private street.The Engineering Division will not support the current design of
the intersection between Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive. However,the Planning Division can support it, so
it could be considered on the Consent Agenda. Please note that additional information (such as anticipated
traffic volumes, sight distance lines, etc.) would be needed to fully evaluate the request and further minor
modifications may be needed.
Thanks,
J.T. Newberry
Planner
County of Albemarle, Planning Division
434-296-5832, ext. 3270
From: David Brockman [mailto:dave@oldtrailvillage.com]
Sent:Thursday, October 08, 2015 12:01 PM
To:Johnathan Newberry<jnewberry@albemarle.org>
Subject: block 5_20_21
Hi JT,
Did you get a response from Mark on the road layout for block 5/20/21? I would hope he could support this as it is just
like the 3 or 4 other areas in Old Trail with internal streets and alleys. This apartment project is on hold waiting to hear
whether we have a plan to work with or not.
Thanks for looking into it.
Dave Brockman
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John Anderson
From: Bill Ledbetter <BLedbetter@roudabush.com>
Sent: Tuesday,June 02, 2015 2:01 PM
To: John Anderson
Cc: Dave Brockman;Johnathan Newberry
Subject: RE. Revised street sketch in OTV Block 5, 20 and 21
John
The 2 options on the sketch both provide 200' minimum cl radius.
If the apartment plan moves forward, a submission will be made with everything you request for a
formal review.
Thanks for getting us an answer to the variation vs. rezoning question concerning road location.
Bill
Bill Ledbetter
Roudabush, Gale and Associates
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, Virginia 22902
434-977-0205 office
540-649-0190 cell
434-296-5220 fax
From: John Anderson [mailto:janderson2@albemarle.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 12:01 PM
To: Bill Ledbetter
Cc: Glenn Brooks; Johnathan Newberry; Megan Yaniglos; Rebecca Ragsdale; David Brockman
Subject: RE: Revised street sketch in OTV Block 5, 20 and 21
Bill,
Engineering response to sketch sent 22-May.
Engineering recognizes VDOT request for 200' minimum centerline radius. Please confirm if black-and gray-line
alignments are proposed as 200' horizontal curves. It appears the reverse curves(gray-line)may not be. Engineering
would not object if Glen Valley Drive ends behind Block 20(a change to the Zoning layout/eligible for Variation). With
respect to buffers, Engineering agrees that gray-shade alignment shows relatively minor incremental impact to Slabtown
Branch stream buffer(yellow). Stream buffer impacts require mitigation.
To clearly establish what is being proposed or approved requires scale drawings. We are glad to review .PDF scale
drawings.
It may be best to limit(sketch)review comments to tentative confirmation that:
• Engineering supports public street designation,VDOT geometric design standards(200' R)
• No objection if design eliminates south portion of Glen Valley on Blocks 20/21 (eligible for approval as
Variation)
• No objection to incremental stream buffer impact, if propose reverse-curve alignment(yellow image)
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• No objection to stream buffer impact associated with ZMA200400024 roadway alignment's
(Mitigation is required for stream buffer impacts)
We understand the need to reliably know how plans will be reviewed before proceeding too far. Please be sure to
confirm zoning/planning needs with Johnathan,Rebecca,and Megan,as circumstance dictates. Engineering does not
speak for Planning,or Zoning.
With.PDF review or site/plat or road plan submission,please:
• Calculate stream buffer impacts
• Provide Mitigation
• Label CL radius
• Provide scale
• Show stream CL
• Show 100' stream buffer
(50'offset LINE is also helpful/thank you)
Thanks for your patience.
Please call if questions.
I'll be in and out,today.
I'll be away 10-19 June.
434.296-5832—x3069
From:John Anderson
Sent:Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:11 PM
To:Johnathan Newberry; Glenn Brooks; Megan Yaniglos; Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject: RE: Revised street sketch in OTV Block 5, 20 and 21
Glenn,
Yellow shows incremental impact: gray-over black-line(Upland Drive/scroll down to JT's email). I can confirm if
incremental impact is within the landward 50 feet. I can't estimate area(SF)with detail provided,but could request RGA
estimate using design software. Given design requirement to meet 200'centerline radius,could OTV/RGA request
impact within the landward 50 horizontal feet under 17-604.A.(i)—thanks,Glenn.
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would be on a lot that is within a water supply protection area where the stream buffer protects an
intermittent stream and the lot is within a development area_ In all cases under this subsection,any
new building site and sewage disposal system shall be located outside of the stream buffer.
From:Johnathan Newberry
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:31 PM
To: Glenn Brooks; Megan Yaniglos;John Anderson; Rebecca Ragsdale
Subject: Revised street sketch in OTV Block 5, 20 and 21
In response to the answer emailed earlier today, Bill Ledbetter has provided an alternate sketch to the one we discussed
on May 11th
His description is that Upland Drive would have a 200'turning radius and be a public or private street. It would provide
interconnection across Old Trail Drive and Golf Drive. Glen Valley Drive would be end behind Block 20 as shown on the
previous sketch.
Is this something that could pursued via variation? It looks like the option in gray marker impacts the buffer too much,
but it looks like black-lined Upland Drive would work.
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From: Bill Ledbetter[mailto:BLedbetter@roudabush.com]
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 3:10 PM
To:Johnathan Newberry
Cc: Dave Brockman
Subject:OT BLOCK 1/3
JT
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Attached is a sketch showing a possible road layout that we think will eliminate the need for a rezoning
and allow us to move forward with only the variation to eliminate the south portion of Glen Valley on
Blocks 20/21.
The sketch shows 2 possible intersection connections of Upland and Glen Valley with a <200'
centerline radius. Both connections are pretty much in the same place as shown on the ZMA plan and
require only minimal mitigation measures for stream buffer disturbances.
We are not stopping our pursuit of other ways to address this issue without requiring a rezoning, but
in an effort to keep all of us moving forward we offer this as a preliminary solution.
Thoughts??
Thanks and have a great weekend.
Bill
Bill Ledbetter
Roudabush, Gale and Associates
914 Monticello Road
Charlottesville, Virginia 22902
434-977-0205 office
540-649-0190 cell
434-296-5220 fax
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COUNTY OF ALBEMARLE
OY Department Community Development
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Amilar 401 McIntire Road North Wing• Charlottesville, Virginia 22902-4596
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Transmittal
From: JT Newberry Date: 11/05/15
To: John Anderson- Engineering OJay Schlothauer- Inspections
()Alex Morrison-ACSA 0
OShelley Plaster-VDOT 0
ORobbie Gilmer-Fire and Rescue 0
OAndrew Slack- E911 0
JOB #/FILE NAME:SUB-2015-00197 Old Trail Block 5, 20 and 21 - Private Street Request
We are sending you the following items: ® Attached or ❑ Under separate cover
n Copy of Letter ❑ Prints H Plans
❑ Plats (1 Specifications n Other
# of Date Description
Copies
1 9/19/15 Old Trail Village Block 5 - Conceptual Block Layout
These are transmitted as checked below:
® For review and comments 171 For approval n Other
Remarks: Please note that no site plan or subdivision plat has yet been submitted for these blocks.
The applicant is seeking approval for private streets in this area (as opposed to the public streets
shown in the application plan) as well as various special exceptions, including one for building height.
Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks.
Comments are due in City View or email by: 11/23/15 Signature: JT Newberry
PHONE(434)977-0205
FAX(434)296-5220
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October 27, 2015
Mr.J.T. Newberry, Planner
Albemarle County
Department of Community Development
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville,Virginia 22902
Regarding: Old Trail Village Block 5, 20 and 21
Request for Private Street Authorization
Dear Mr. Newberry,
In accordance with Section 14-233 of the Albemarle County Code of Ordinances,we are
requesting the authorization of private streets in Blocks 5, 20 and 21 of Old Trail Village,
using the Neighborhood Model Development [Section 14-233(A)(1)(ii)] as justification.
Specifically,we are requesting the authorization for the interior drives - Upland Drive,
Block 5 Drive and Block 20/21 Drive to be private streets in order to better achieve the
density goals of the comprehensive plan.
The public road standards in this instance break the three blocks into fragments, which
cannot be used efficiently to achieve a density that is similar to the surrounding blocks. The
grid-like street pattern with T-intersections in lieu of a 200' centerline radius allows a
greater flexibility and efficiency for building and parking layout. This efficiency and
flexibility allows for a density similar to that of the surrounding blocks and more in line
with the Old Trail Village Code of Development.
In addition, the grid-like pattern of the proposed streets is similar to the street layout of the
surround blocks.Also, the proposed private streets, Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive, will
mirror the surrounding public streets with a similar cross-section: on-street parallel
parking, planting strips and sidewalks.
In accordance with Section 14-234(C), the proposed private streets, Upland Drive, Block 5
Drive, Block 20/21 Drive satisfy one or more of the requirements in Section 14-234(C);
1. These private streets will be adequately constructed to carry the traffic volume
expected;
Yes, the private streets will be adequately constructed to carry the anticipated
traffic volumes. Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive are expected to have 896 vehicles
per day. Block 20/21 Drive is expected to have 369 vehicles per day.
2. The comprehensive plan does not provide for a public street in the approximate
location of the proposed private street;
Yes, the comprehensive plan does not provide for a public street in this location (B
Street and E Street).
3. The fee of the private street will be owned by the owner of each lot abutting the
right-of-way thereof or by an association composed of the owners of all lots in the
subdivision, subject in either case to any easement for the benefit of all lots served
by the street;
Yes, the fees associated with these private streets will be owned by the Old Trail
Homeowners Association.
4. Except where required by the commission to serve a specific public purpose,the
private street will not serve through traffic nor intersect the state highway system
in more than one location;
Block 20/21 Drive will serve as an entrance/exit for the apartments on Blocks 20
and 21. Block 20/21 Drive will not serve through traffic. Block 20/21 Drive will
intersect Old Trail Drive, a public road, in only one location.
Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive will serve as the entrance/exit for the apartments
and commercial building on Blocks 5 and 20. Upland Drive will intersect Old Trail
Drive,while Block 5 Drive will intersect Golf Drive. It is possible that through traffic
will utilize Upland Drive/Block 5 Drive to access Old Trail Drive from Golf Drive and
vice versa.
5. If applicable, the private street has been approved in accordance with section 30.3,
flood hazard overlay district, of the zoning ordinance and other applicable law.
The flood hazard overlay district requirements are not applicable for these private
streets.
Thank you for your consideration regarding this request, and as always, if I can be of any
assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me through email at ageorge@roudabush.com
or by phone, 434-977-0205.
Sincer y,
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PHONE(434)977-0205
FAX(434)296-5220
INFO@ROUDABUSH.COM
ROUDABUSH, GALE &ASSOCIATES, INC.
A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
LAND SURVEYING Serving Virginia Since 1956
ENGINEERING 914 MONTICELLO ROAD
LAND PLANNING CHARLOTTESVILLE,VIRGINIA
22902
WILLIAM J.LEDBETTER,L.S. J.CLINT HARMON,L.S.
CHRISTOPHER C.MULLIGAN,P.E. DAVID A.JORDAN,L.S.
AMMY M.GEORGE,L.A. BRIAN D.JAMISON,L.S.
TO: Mr. JT Newberry, Planner DATE: October 27, 2015
County of Albemarle JOB #:
Department of Community Development PROJ: Old Trail Village, Blocks 5, 20-21
401 McIntire Road, Suite 227
Charlottesville,Va. 22902-4596
X Attached
Under separate cover via the following items:
# of Copies Date Job# Description
1 Application for Special Exception
3 9/19/15 Conceptual Layout for Old Trail Village Block 5
1 Fee Check for Variations-$425 (Check No. 2308)
1 Variation Application
Blocks 5 20 and 21 - Private B Street and E Street
1 Variation Application
Blocks 5 20 and 21 -Connection Golf Drive between Old Trail Drive
1 Variation Application
Blocks 5 20 and 21 -Sidewalk
1 Variation Application
Blocks 5 20 and 21 - Building Height
1 Application for Road Plan Approval
8 9/19/15 Conceptual Layout for Old Trail Village Block 5
1 10/27/15 Private Street Authorization Request- Blocks 5 20 and 21
1 Fee Check for Private Street Authorization -$670 (Check No. 2309)
These are transmitted as checked below:
_For approval For your use Please return As requested
Resubmitted w/revisions X Review/Comment For Bids due
Other
REMARKS:
SIGNED: Awtony George COPY TO:
If enclosures are not as noted, kindly notify us at once.
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Department of Community Development
Project: Old Trail,Blocks 5,20&21—Road Plans,Private Street Authorization Request
Plan preparer: Ammy George,Bill Ledbetter—Roudabush,Gale&Assoc,Inc
914 Monticello Road,Charlottesville,VA 22902,AGeorgea,roudabush.com,
bledbetter@roudabush.com
Owner or rep.: March Mountain Properties LLC[1005 Heathercroft Circle,Suite 100]
Dave Brockman,dave(a,,oldtrailvillage corn
Plan received date: 5 Nov 2015
Date of comments* 5 Nov 2015
Reviewer: John Anderson
Project Coordinator: J.T.Newberry
SUB2015-00197
1. Note:Planning Division email(10/8/2015 2:08 PM)reads,in part."The Engineering Division will not
support the current design of the mtersection between Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive.However,the
Planning Division can support it,so it could be considered on the Consent Agenda."
2. 10/8 email continues:"Please note that additional information(such as anticipated traffic volumes,sight
distance lines,etc.)would be needed to fully evaluate the request and further minor modifications may be
needed."
3; As follow-up to 10/8 email,please provide anticipated traffic volumes and sight distance lines to fully
evaluate request and determine whether further minor modifications may be needed
4. Intersection of Upland Drive and Block 5 Drive is a 3-way intersection,not a continuous street. Please ref.
block 5 Layout 09192015 file(Attached;relevant to 10/8 email),a third conceptual design d.July 20 2015
(3 designs have identical date). No conceptual design since 3-June(Attached email)has been reviewed by
Engineering. (Review not requested.)
5. Provide intersection features consistent with VDOT standards for public streets. At a minimum,provide:
(3-way)stop signs,stop bars,pedestrian crosswalks(defer to Planning),and sight distance lines. —Ref.
Attached 09192015 RGA annotated design file
6. VDOT Subdivision Street Design Guide,Appendix B(1),Sec.6,Traditional Neighborhood Design,F.Curb
Extensions:Revise on-street parking consistent with Sec.6/image below(Attached). Proposed design
appears inconsistent with Design Guide detail.
F. Curb Extensions — Curb extensions at intersections are frequently used in
Traditional Neighborhood Developments. Curb Extensions are also used to
protect parking areas and to reduce pedestrian crossing times.
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7. Design must reflect VDOT Standards,includmg Subdivision Street Design Guide,p.B(1)-60,Notes 1 -3.
Notes relate to:geometry,sight lines,curb extensions,and overall design. [See 14-412.B.]
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IIIIIIIIIINVtsk(RIIIIkrequOMIFRoad plan will be reviewed against checklist integral to RP application.
Design will be compared with VDOT standards. Ref.Sec.14-412.B. These comments are response to
private street authorization request
9. Applicant cover letter d 27-Oct 2015,p.2,item#4 makes note that:"It is possible that through traffic will
utilize Upland Drive/Block 5 Drive to access Old Trail Drive from Golf Drive and vice versa." This
appears inconsistent with requirements at Sec. 14-234.B., 14-234.C.4 Sec. 14-234.A.2 makes explicit
reference to Engineering review.
10. Note:Old Trail Village is zoned Neighborhood Model District. Planning Division Staff,Community
Development Director,Chief of Planning and others may have participated in review or reached agreement
or acceptance on particular design features of conceptual site layout,block 5,but this is first request for
Engineering review comment since June.
11 Engineenng Division email sent June 02,2015 12:01 PM reads,in part:"Engineering supports public
street designation,VDOT geometric design standards for roads and intersections." Engineenng reaffirms
this position,yet defers to Planning
Contact John Anderson,Engineenng Dept,if any questions. ianderson2na,albemarle org/434-296-5832-x3069
File SUB201500197-Old Trail Village blocks 5 20,21 pvt_street 110515
F. Curb Extensions — Curb extensions at intersections are frequently used in
Traditional Neighborhood Developments. Curb Extensions are also used to
protect parking areas and to reduce pedestrian crossing times.
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