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An adjourned meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County,
Virginia, was held on March 15, 1989, at 1:30 P.M., Meeting Room #7, County
Office Building, 401McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia. The meeting
was adjourned from March 8, 1989.
BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Edward H. Bain, Jr., Mr. F. R. Bowie, Mrs.
Patricia H. Cooke (arrived at 2:07 P.M.), Messrs. C. Timothy Lindstrom
(arrived at 1:40 P.M.), Walter F. Perkins and Peter T. Way.
BOARD MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
OFFICERS PRESENT: Mr. Guy B. Agnor, Jr., County Executive (arrived at
2:15 P.M.); and Mr. John T. P. Horne, Director of Planning and Community
Development.
Agenda Item No. 1. Call to Order. The .meeting was called to order at
1:45 P.M. by the Chairman, Mr. Way. Mr. Way informed the Board that Mr. Agnor
would be here momentarily, and Mrs. Cooke would be late.
He said that the week of March 24 - 31, 1989, has been declared "Commun-
ity Development Block Grant" week in recognition of the many achievements in
the community through that program.
Agenda Item No. 2. Work Session: Comprehensive Plan.
The work session began with a discussion of the possible expansion of the
proposed Scottsville Community.
Mr. Wayne Cilimberg, Chief of Community Development, said staff had
looked at three levels of development in this area. Regarding residential
growth, staff feels that the area currently designated presents a good oppor-
tunity for additional residential development on lots that are either undevel-
oped or underdeveloped, especially if public water and/or sewer are provided.
The second area staff considered was a community service designation. The
combination of develOpment in the town of Sco/tsville and expansion of the
present shopping center would service the population that would be located
here if this growth area built out. The last?area staff considered was major
employment opportunities. The key to employment is public water and sewer
availability. Staff did not look at relocating any employment centers. Mr.
Cilimberg said staff's recommendation is to leave the boundaries of
Scottsville as proposed in the updated Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Cilimberg
added that a key factor in not recommending eg. pansion of the Scottsville
community boundaries is the nearby Totier Cre~k Watershed.
Mr. Way said he concurs with staff's recommendation.
Mr. Lindstrom pointed out that the publi~ address system in Room 7 is not
adequate for the public to hear what the Boar~ is saying. He discovered that
when he attended a meeting and sat in the audience and could not hear the
speakers. He asked that staff get someone in!fro take care of that problem.
(Mrs. Cooke arrived at 2:07 P.M.)
Mr. Way said if any Board members had items they wished to bring up for
discussion within the Comprehensive Plan, those could be discussed before
going on to individual citizen requests. He Kent on to say that one thing
which he feels should be in the Plan zs some Statement concerning the County s
Affirmative Action Plan. He said the City ha~ a page related to that topic in
its Plan, and he feels there should be a summ~ry in the County's Comprehensive
Plan. Mr. Home said the City's Comprehensiv~ Plan deals with more social
mssues than the County s, but staff could put?together a paragraph on affirma-
tive action. Mr. Perkins suggested that a letter to all County employees from
Mr. Agnor and Mr. Overstreet regarding the Affirmative Action Plan might be
appropriate. Mr. Way asked staff to bring ba4~ some statement regarding
affirmative action for the Board's review.
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Mr. Bowie felt there should be a statement in the Comprehensive Plan on
the County's position regarding businesses locating in this area. He felt a
statement indicating that businesses should be willing to employ County
residents as opposed to importing their own people, and that they would
retrain people to move up the ladder from entry level positions, should be
included. Mr. Horne said there is an Industrial Development Policy already in
effect, but it was not included because there had been no background research
on the policy.
(Mr. Agnor arrived at 2:15 P.M.)
Mrs. Cooke said she thought it was a good idea. However, there are jobs
to be filled if people are willing to work. Right now there are not enough
people to fill the jobs that are available. She said such a statement might
be appropriate when there is a "glut" of people looking for jobs.
Mr. Horne said staff did not object to putting a statement in the Compre-
hensive Plan along those lines. However, he said he would like to have facts
to back it up. He said staff would rather research the issue first. The
consensus of the Board was to review the Industrial Development Policy to see
what it includes.
Mrs. Cooke said she had received a resolution from ihe Woodbrook Homeown-
ers Association requesting that the road between Woodbrook and Carrsbrook not
be opened. Mr. Horne said the Planning Commission's thinking was primarily in
regard to eliminating the danger of school buses having tb come out onto Route
29 and cross over. The same holds true for other trafficl from this area on
Route 29. He said he understands that the residents may hot want it, but from
Staff's point of view, there is no good reason not to open that road.
Mrs. Cooke said she wanted to go on record as havinglduly noted the
objections of the residents of Woodbrook and Carrsbrook. i
Mr. Bain pointed out that a statement regarding not allowing a connection
to the sewer interceptor between Crozet and Charlottesville which was in the
previous Comprehensive Plan is not in the proposed Plan. Mr. Home said staff
would include that statement to make it perfectly clear that it is not the
in~ent of the County to allow any connections to that interceptor line.
Mr. Lindstrom said he had spoken with some people from the Milton area
who are concerned about having any more development at Mi~ton than is there
already. They are concerned that if a water line goes in~ it will encourage
additional residential development. He wondered if the B6ard could take some
steps to lay the foundation for preventing Milton from becoming a much larger
area. Mr. Bowie said he has heard concerns about whetheriMilton will be
called a village or a community. The Board then looked a~ the criteria for
villages on Page 204. Mr. Bowie suggested that the thirdilcriteria which
reads, "Contain a village core of mixed service and residential uses." should
have the word, "may" inserted at the beginning Also thelicriteria which
reads, "Contain public facilities supporting the village ~nd immediate sur-
rounding County areas." should have the word, "May" inserted in the beginning.
Mr. Lindstrom suggested that language at the introduction~to the section on
Milton indicate that there is no intention now or in the Suture of expanding
Milton out to Interstate 64.
Mr. Lindstrom said there is still the question of exCending water service
to the area and what size water line would be needed. Mr~i Brent said a 12
inch to 14 inch waterline would probably serve the vicinity. Mr. Lindstrom
asked how many people could be served if the waterlines we~e used to the
fullest capacity. Mr. Brent said he could get the figure i~asily and bring
that information back to the Board. !i
Mr. Lindstrom said the introduction to Milton in the i~omprehensive Plan
should include an economic analysis of what is expected i~il terms of facili-
ties, how much capability they would have, and the number tbf units likely to
be served, as well as the potential development that woul~ be created.
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Mr. Bowie said a good part of the northeast quadrant of the proposed
Milton area has been placed in an agricultural/forestal district. He asked
staff if they could give him information on those boundaries for a meeting he
will be having with the residents of the Milton area.
Mr. Bowie went on to say the Keswick area is getting a disproportionate
amount of growth along small gravel roads. Wherever there are two to five
acres, he said a house goes up. He feels that designating Milton as a growth
area would direct growth off the smaller roads onto the main roads, where
people will be using public utilities instead of well water. He feels one of
the dominant points in including Milton as a growth area is that right now,
this area is growing "helter skelter", and this is one way of trying to
control that growth. It is an alternative to just buying open acres.
Mr. Lindstrom said he had called the Virginia Outdoors Foundation as a
result of last week's discussions regarding perpetual easements. He was
informed that VOF is not interested in holding any easements except those
which are strictly voluntary. He said after looking at the State statute more
closely, there is another way of keeping the easements out of the arena of
political pressure. This comes under the Open Space Land Act which provides
that these easements can be conveyed to and held by agencies of the State,
cities, counties, towns, park authorities, and recreational facility authori-
ties. The Board can, under state law, create both park authorities and
recreational facility authorities. The easement could be conveyed as a con-
dition of zoning to the authority, and the authority would make the determina-
tion about release of the easement. The authority would have inherent, not
delegated authority, which means the Board c~uld not just rescind their power.
However, the Board would appoint the authority members. The park authority
has a much more limited function under the S~ate Code than recreational
facility authorities. He said his understanding is that the Board can assign
to the created authority certain purposes that it will serve. For example,
the Board could set up a recreational facility authority which would have the
sole purpose of holding and administering op~a space easements. The statute
appears to allow recreational facility autho~ities the kind of responsibili-
ties the current County Parks and Recreations!Department has, so that there may
be some future use for that facility. The s~atute also gives more flexibility
in how the authority is set up, what their terms are, etc. than the park
authority. Finally, once the recreational f~cility authority is set up it
can only be dissolved through its own motion.i~ The statute does not really say
how the park authority would be dissolved. Mr. Lindstrom said he had asked
staff to review these possibilities.
Mr. Agnor said he had not had time to st~udy this question. However, the
recreational facility authority seems to len~ itself more closely to what the
Board is talking about. On the other hand, that section of the Code talks
about projects being assigned to the authori~, and those projects lean toward
recreational facilities. Mr. Agnor said he ~lans to discuss with Mr. St. 3ohn
the possibility of creating a board of trust~s whose function would be more
in keeping with what the Board is talking aboi~t regarding agricultural open
space. His concern is that an existing stat~! authority might be thought of as
having a different connotation. Mr. Home s~,id the definitions listed under
public recreation facility authorities in th~'! Code do not seem to be remotely
connected with open space. Mr. Lindstrom sai~ the Open Space' Land Act specif-
ically says public recreational facility autl~orities. He has no doubt they
have the authority to hold the easements. He~,~ agreed there may be a negative
impression given by the use of the word "authOrity". Mr. Lindstrom pointed
out that there is another provision that says!~ a private organization which has
been in the State for at least five years with a registered office, etc. can
hold the easements. His sense is that the Board members would be less com-
fortable with that assignment than one of theme others. He asked staff to
look at these possibilities.
Mr. Bowie said he does have a problem wi~h the term, "authority", but he
feels there should be some way to hold the easements. He prefers the idea of
trustees over creating an authority. He said~,iit should not be impossible for
a future Board to allow withdrawal of the easements, but at the same time
there needs to be some measure of control by ~he County over such land. Mr.
Lindstrom said that all the creation of an authority would do is offset some
of the economic pressure on the Board to develop the residue land because
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people who own the land will know they cannot get a quick change on the
easements.
Mr. Lindstrom said one other way is to create an authority, convey the
easements to them, and delegate this Board's authority to them. The problem
is that all it takes to revoke that delegated authority and to abolish what
the Board created is one ordinance. On the other hand, an authority would
have independent existence once created. That should not be a problem if its
authority can be narrowly defined. Because the authority is recognized in the
State Code, the easements would not come through this Board. Mr. Lindstrom
said that's why the authority idea seems to be a better one.
(Note: The Board recessed at 3:13 P.M. and reconvened at 3:30 P.M. Mr.
Bowie was not present at that time.)
Mr. Way said that as a result of the discussions last week on rural
development, he wanted clarification on the matter of the maximum of twenty
lots referred to in the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Home said that the recommen-
dation is that by-right clustering would allow that no more than twenty lots
be developed, which is consistent with the rural subdivision standard proposed
in the Comprehensive Plan and which is contained in the current Plan. If the
owner wishes to exceed twenty lots, he would have to obtain a special use
permit. There would be a relatively small number of parcels that would fall
into that category. The breakpoint in acreage is about 325 acres if they
cluster at two acre lot sizes. Mr. Home said this provision would limit the
by-right development of large rural subdivisions which effectively become
small villages in terms of the number of residences. Mr. Way said he did not
have a problem with that.
Mr. Way said the Board would be having a work session as requested by
Mrs. Cooke on new State laws on conditional zoning. Mr..iLindstrom said Ms.
Nancy O'Brien is trying to schedule a time within a month ~for someone from
Northern Virginia to talk to the Thomas Jefferson Planning!: District Commission
on the same subject. He had suggested to her that the Board coordinate its
schedule to meet with them. Mr. Agnor asked if that wouldl be the same work
session the Board had asked to have Mr. Skove come and speak about conditional
zoning. Mr. Way said he did not foresee this taking place.iuntil the end of
April since the Board would have to stop the Comprehensiv~Plan work sessions
to work on the budget for a month.
(Mr. Bowie returned at 3:40 P.M.)
Mr. Lindstrom said he felt the people having special ~.~equests for the
Board to consider in the Comprehensive Plan should be notified of the date the
Board will be discussing those requests. Mr. Way agreed. !,~Mr. Bowie said he
did not think the Board should do any rezoning changes in ~his update of the
Plan. Mr. Lindstrom said he agreed except for the RA dist'~ict, due to the new
clustering provisions.
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Mr. Lindstrom said he wants staff to think about how clustering should be
administered by the County. If someone wants to cluster, Other than applying
for a special use permit, how would the County assure that i the landowner does
not come in at a later time to cluster another portion of his property. Mr.
Horne said staff is aware of that problem and is thinking about how to accom-
plish the clustering option.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the Board had anything scheduled for March 29.
Mr. Agnor said the budget work session for the school budget is scheduled
Mr. Lindstrom said he would like to be here for that work ~ession, but would
be out of town on that date. Mr. Way said he feels it is {!mportant for all'of
the Board members to be present to discuss the school budget. Mr. Agnor said
he would have the School Board session changed.
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Mr. Way said next week the Board would begin discussing Comprehensive
Plan change requests from citizens. Mr. Agnor suggested that the people who
are present today might have their requests discussed now. Mr. Horne said he
wanted to remind the Board that in discussing these requests, the Planning
Commission considered them as a part of the entire Comprehensive Plan and not
on the merits of the specific requests. He said staff felt that would be the
proper way for the Board to consider the requests as well.
Mr. Lindstrom said his concern is how the Board should deal with requests
that are tied to specific zoning changes if the Board does not deal with the
requests in the abstract, which is a sort of blanket approval. Mr. Home said
requests have to be looked at through the text of the Comprehensive Plan. If
on any individual request where the Board would allow that request only under
very specific circumstances, it might be best not to amend the Plan, but
rather to accept individual amendments to the Plan along with the individual
rezoning request upon formal application by the citizen. Mr. Bain said it
makes more sense to do that.
Mr. Horne said that normally these changes would be reviewed through
individual amendment requests. For example, the Planning Commission looked at
the University Real Estate Foundation's request for employment generating uses
in light of what the Plan says about employment generation, not what makes
sense on a particular parcel of land. Mr~ Cilimberg pointed out that five of
the requests on the list have not been seen by the Planning Commission.
Mr. Bowie said he did not think that mo~t of these requests should
actually be Comprehensive Plan amendments. ~e said there is a process to go
through for most of these requests, which is!not amending the Comprehensive
Plan to suit a particular landowner's reques~
Mr. Lindstrom said he is not willing to iiiagree to adding 250 acres to a
growth area for industrial use without an amendment to the Comprehensive Plan.
On the other hand, he said Mr. Bowie has a pQint. Some of these requests are
fairly minimal, so maybe the Board should listen to each one and decide
whether there should be an amendment now or d~.efer taking any action until a
proposal can be seen. ~'?
Mr. Cilimberg then gave a brief description of the location and the
request for expansion of industrial service in the Hollymead growth area by
the University of Virginia Real Estate Foundation for an additional 285 acres.
He said the request started as an addition t~! the industrial service area and
more recently had turned into one as a designation for office service to meet
the needs of the kinds of uses planned for th~ area. Staff reviewed this
request in conjunction with the request by G~at Eastern Management for a
large office service designation. The Planning Commission considered the
appropriateness of additions in general on the northern fringe of Hollymead.
One factor they considered is whether there i~ already enough industrial land
designated. He said there are over 500 acresliof developable industrial land
outside of flood plains and twenty-five perceSt slopes in that area. The
Planning Commission felt they wanted to see first what would happen in the
areas already designated, and secondly they wanted to keep some flexibility in
future years in terms of what the ultimate use might be in that area. Another
consideration was that to serve the ultimate ~uild out of this area, the
Camelot sewage treatment plant would have to ~e replaced by a pumping station
and force main. That is not programmed to happen in the foreseeable future,
and the Commission felt it was not the time t~ add to Hollymead. Also,
traffic limitations on Route 29 North were considered by the Planning Commis-
s ion. ~
Mr. Home emphasized that the Commmssmon~looked at this request and that
of Great Eastern Management as the same issue, If one request is granted,
then the Commission could see very little disl
large, employment-generating uses. Mr. Lind~
do with all the people in Hollymead as a resu
are there now. He felt the last thing needed
ters. Mr. Lindstrom said he would like to lo~
industrial acreage instead of adding to it.
inction in that they both wanted
:trom said the problem is what to
t of the employment centers that
would be more employment cen-
k seriously at reducing some
Mr. Lindstrom said he would be willing t¢
Plan contingent upon review of the zoning proposal.
consider the amendment of the
He has stated before that
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he does not have a problem expanding the area proposed for industrial, if the
amount of industrial itself is not expanded, with staff verification of that
fact. Also, since this is a twenty year Plan, he does not want to agree to a
zoning designation that will not be needed in this next five year period. He
said he is not willing to expand this area in the abstract. If a specific
proposal is submitted, he is willing to look at an amendment to the Comprehen-
sive Plan in tandem with a zoning request. His concern is that there be clear
proof that the industrial area is not being expanded and that it is clearly
controlled by County regulations to be phased in over the next twenty years.
Mr. Bowie repeated his standing objection that these requests can be
handled through a Comprehensive Plan amendment when the proposal for the
actual use is made.
Mr. Way said he does not necessarily want to send out a message that by
not changing the Comprehensive Plan, he would be opposed'to the full develop-
ment of this property in a more efficient way. He said he is very much caught
in the dilemma described by Mr. Home earlier. He can see positive aspects to
the specific request, but there is no such proposal. Mr2 Lindstrom said he
feels it should be taken up as an individual request for an amendment at the
same time as the zoning proposal is submitted. Mr. Bain said he concurs. The
requests that have not been seen by the Planning Commission need to come
through the normal process. Mr. Way said if the Board is going to proceed in
that way, what is the point of discussing any of these requests. Mr. Horne
said some requests might be obvious enough that the Board~could make a deci-
sion now. Also, his staff told certain people to attend~he meeting today to
hear the Board discuss these requests.
Mr. Lindstrom suggested that the Board look at each ~,9ne on the list to
see if there is a consensus as to things that can be considered now. If the
people concerned with the item are present, let them kno~ If they are not,
let them know the date it will be discussed. If there a~ other requests that
the Board does not wish to take up without a specific proposal, let that be
known.
The consensus of the Board regarding Neighborhood Tl~ee - North Pantops
Residential and South Pantops Commercial Designations from Mr. T. Eugene
Worrell was to consider that request for a Comprehensive ~lan amendment next
week.
For the request from United Land Corporation for exPansion of Neighbor-
hood Four, it was felt that a specific proposal is necessary before consider-
ing an amendment to the Plan.
The request from Great Eastern Management regarding ~oute 250 West
Commercial Designation near Crozet seemed like a specific~zoning request. Mr.
Perkins said in his opinion it should go to the Planning ~ommission for their
review. The consensus was to deal with this one when a s~eclf~c proposal
comes through.
The next request was expansion along Route 240 northi~of the CSX railroad
line in Crozet. Staff said their recommendation regardin~ this request is to
consider this request when the exact location and construction design of the
Lickinghole Creek Basin is determined. Mr. Home said th~ Basin is being
designed now. Mr. Lindstrom said if the dam could be loc~ited so as to allow
this request without a great deal of public expense, it w~ld be a reasonable
request. Mr. Home said that was the opinion of the staf~ as well.
The next two requests were related to expansion of t~ Hollymead commun-
ity by the University of Virginia Real Estate Foundation ~d Great Eastern
Management. The Board agreed these two should not be heam~ until there are
specific zoning applications filed.
The request from United Land Corporation involves a ~sidential designa-
tion on the west side of Route 29 North near Hollymead. T~e Board agreed they
would like to see the proposal before considering any amen~lment to the Plan.
The request from F. Ronald Cutright to expand the com~'ercial area at
Cross Roads was thought to be a specific proposal to be considered at the time
a zoning request is received.
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For the request for commercial designation on Route 29 South at North
Garden from Albemarle Charolais Farms, the Board agreed that a specific
proposal should be submitted.
The last request was for commercial designation for a portion of the Edge
Hill Farm which is northwest of the Milton growth area. The area is north of
the intersection of Route 22 and Route 250. Mr. Bowie said someday it might
be appropriate to change the Comprehensive Plan for this request, but in his
opinion, at this time, it is not necessary. He felt this request could be
considered with a zoning proposal.
Mr. Horne said one distinction about this request is that Milton is a new
growth area. He said it might be logical to think about whether this would be
a suitable area to provide commercial services to the Milton growth area,
otherwise it is a simple rezoning request. Mr. Lindstrom said the problem is
that something that starts out serving a village but is on a major road, turns
out to be a regional service area. People at Milton are worried about this
very thing. He said he does not want to invite people to spend the money to
put a proposal together giving them the impression they can persuade the Board
to agree to the change. Mr. Lindstrom said he will not be persuaded to allow
strip development on Route 250. He said he does not need to see a proposal
about this request, because he cannot see himself changing his mind about the
Comprehensive Plan in the next year.
Mr. Horne said he thinks the Milton reqdest is one the Board should
decide on now since Milton is being designed !as a new growth area. Mr.
Lindstrom said the Planning Commission heard ~this proposal and said no. He
does not feel this designation is needed to serve that village. Mr. Home
said staff's recommendation is that the Board make the decision on the request
for commercial designation for a portion of Edge Hill Farm near Milton now.
The Board then agreed to consider this requeS~ for an amendment to the Compre-
hensive Plan today. :~
Mr. Cilimberg described, the request. He said it was before the Planning
Commission
and
was nqt considered because Mi~ton was not included in the
Comprehensive Plan at that time. Staff's pr~posal regarding Milton was that
no specific area wit.~in Milton be designated ~as village service. In fact, the
recommendation was tgat anything in Milton b~i small scale and be located
internally within the Milton vicinity. Staf~.i's feeling is that the request is
larger than necessary to serve the village aq~ is in a location that does not
fit the Milton village area. It would be a s!~ep toward seeing the entire
strip pressed for commercial development. Sfii~ff would rather see commercial
within the defined boundaries of Milton. Mr. Bowie said he did not feel
regional designation is suitable, but something more will be needed if the
area grows, and the area requested may be the~best place for it. He feels it
would be a mistake to have the commercial development before the people are
there. Mr. Bain said he concurred with Mr. B~wie.
Mr. Way asked if the applicant's representative would like to address the
Board at this time.
Mr. Michael Miller, landscape architect for the owner of Edge Hill, said
there are 47 acres cut off by 1-64, bounded by Luck Stone, S. L. Williamson,
the Highway Department, Route 250 and Route 2Z, across the road from the
Shadwell Store where there is a very bad traffic problem. The owner's plan is
to work within the Comprehensive Plan in orde~ to make this land suitable to
its most appropriate use. He said they reali~e that any planning is for the
future. They are asking that their request far commercial designation be
considered if Milton is designated as a growt~ area. If the Board feels their
request is inappropriate for this time, that ls fine. They want to go on
record as wanting to cooperate in planning fo~ the future. The owner will
then decide whether he wants to submit a proposal or not. For the Board's
information, Mr. Miller said the owner has already turned down a considerable
offer from a very large developer. What Edge'S!Hill Farm would propose would
not be a strip development, but if the Board does not want to consider it as a
Comprehensive Plan item, he said that is fine~i Mr. Bowie said he feels this
is not the time to say that area should be commercial, but if future growth
occurs, that may well be the best location. ~he consensus of the Board was
not to include this request for commercial designation in the Comprehensive
Plan.
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Mr. Way said next Wednesday the Board would discuss the request from Mr.
Worrell. Mr. Horne said his staff would contact all of the individuals as a
matter of courtesy. Mr. Home said it is his understanding that, outside of
Mr. Worrell's request, the Board is not making any statement either favorably
or negatively. Also, he understands that the Board feels that these requests
are specific enough that there should be a plan of development if the reques-
tor wants to proceed. Mr. Lindstrom said there is one request that he takes
exception to giving that message. He feels it would be a mistake to tell Mr.
Wendell Wood to bring a specific proposal for including fifty acres as light
industrial with the balance of the land designated medium density residential
along Route 20 South for the Board's review. A lot of money would be spent on
preparing the proposal, and Mr. Wood probably would not ~ake it lightly should
the Board deny his request. Mr. Lindstrom said there is nothing Mr. Wood
could show him that would make sense unless the whole eastern side of Route 20
is reconsidered, which Mr. Lindstrom thinks would be a mistake. There is
rough topography there, close proximity to an historic site, and no other
boundaries that make sense. He said he would rather make the decision on this
request today, rather than encourage the applicant to spend money trying to
persuade the Board of something that is, by definition, bad planning.
Mr. Agnor said Mr. Wood could be contacted and told .~the request would be
discussed next Wednesday so he could be present for the discussion. Mr.
Lindstrom said he would rather do that than have him bring in a specific
proposal. Mr. Lindstrom suggested Mr. Wood be told that ~the consensus of the
Board is not to make a change in the designation affecti~'g the requested
parcel of land. Mr. Lindstrom felt the question is whet~{~r the Board's
recommendation to the public should include a "special de~l'' for Mr. Wood,
who, along with everybody else in the County, could come i~to the public hearing
and say what he wanted. The Board could change the designation later, if it
decided to do that. Mr. Home said in terms of Mr. Wood'~ request, the Board
would be making a definite decision not to include this a~'ea in the growth
area. Whereas, on Mr. Wood's request regarding a mobile ~ome park, the Board
would be asking to see more information. Mr. Way said he!i!is not saying that.
This is another situation where there is a dilemma betwee~ the specific
proposal and generalities. Mr. Home said the distinctio~ he sees is that the
Route 20 request could be looked at as a general policy d~cision, while some
of the other requests would be a matter of deferring judg~nt until more
information is received. The Board is not saying "no" to?i~Great Eastern and
the University Real Estate Foundation and the others. The~! Board is saying it
is willing to consider these requests whenever they are f~iled rather than
waiting for the normal filing dates. Mr. Lindstrom said fihe other requests
are for properties currently in growth areas. As a planning matter, this
request is setting a precedent for all the land on that side of Route 20. He
said that bothers him because it is almost like spot zoning. Mr. Bain said if
the Board wants to look at Mr. Wood's property, then he isiwilling to rethink
the whole east side of Route 20, regarding slopes, naturaii boundaries, etc.
Mr. Lindstrom said he does not have an objection to reconSlkdering the whole
question of the boundary to this growth area. He does feg~! uncomfortable
considering Comprehensive Plan proposals property by property. Mr. Way said
he agrees that it is a zoning matter. He does not really ~hink there would be
anything new to discuss regarding expanding to the east s~e of Route 20. At
the time the Board considered this area, there did not se~ to be any need for
additional expansion of the boundaries, but he felt that i~ the future that
area could be considered for expansion. Mr. Way said bas~ on that he does
not see any real reason to discuss that 'side of the road a~ain. The consensus
of the Board was that the request from Mr. Wood regarding ~oute 20 would not
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be onsidered as a change to the Comprehensive Plan at th~!~ time.
Mr. Way mentioned to Mr. Agnor that prior to his arrival there was some
discussion regarding difficulty in the public's being able~tto hear the Board's
discussions. He asked staff to look again into the possibility of getting a
better sound system. He said the Board members would be w~lling to wear a
clip-on microphone, if necessary. Mr. Lindstrom said the ~'ame system used in
the media room should be obtained, since they do not have a problem hearing in
there. Mr. Agnor said there is an old proposal in the fil~s which he will
review again.
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Agenda Item No. 3. Pay and Classification Plan Revision - Zoning Admin-
istrator. The Board took no action due to the lateness of the hour.
Agenda Item No. 4. Adjourn. At 4:25 P~M., motion was offered by Mr.
Bowie and seconded by Mr. Bain to adjourn into executive session for personnel
matters. Roll was called and the motion carried by the following recorded
vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
The Board reconvened into open session at 5:30 P.M. and immediately
adjourned.