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A regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle County,
Virginia, was held on October 12, 1988, at 9:00 A.M., Meeting Room 7, County
Office Building, McIntire Road, Charlottesville, Virginia.
PRESENT: Messrs. Edward H. Bain, Jr. and F. R. Bowie, Mrs. Patricia H.
Cooke, Messrs. C. Timothy Lindstrom (arrived at 9:10 A. M.), Walter F. Perkins
and Peter T. Way.
ABSENT: None.
OFFICERS PRESENT: County Executive, Guy B. Agnor, Jr.; County Attorney,
George R. St. John; and County Planner, John T. P. Horne.
Agenda Item No. 1. The meeting was called to order at 9:05 A.M. by the
Chairman, Mr. Way.
Agenda Item No. 2. Pledge of Allegiance.
Agenda Item No. 3. Moment of Silence.
Agenda Item No. 4. Consent Agenda. Motion was offered by Mr. Perkins,
seconded by Mr. Bain, to approve 4.3 on the Consent Agenda and to accept 4.1
and 4.2 as information. There was no discussion. Roll was called and the
motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Messrs. Bain and Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Lindstrom.
Item 4.1. Memorandum dated September 19, 1988, from Mr. John T. P.
Horne, Director of Planning and Community Degelopment, addressed to Mr. Robert
W. Tucker, Jr., Deputy County Executive, re: CSX Rail Abandonment, concerning
resolution dated August 12, 1988, from Bath County Board of Supervisors was
received as information.
Item 4.2. A copy of the Planning Commission Minutes of September 27,
1988, was received as information.
Item 4.3. Statements of Expenses for the Department of Finance, Sheriff,
Commonwealth's Attorney and Regional Jail fo~ the month of September, 1988,
were approved by the vote shown above.
(Note: Mr. Lindstrom arrives at 9:10 A.M.)
Agenda Item No. 5. Approval of Minutes:~ March 20 (Afternoon), 1985;
October 3, 1988. No minutes had been read.
Agenda Item No. 6. Highway Matters. Mr. Way announced that no one was
present from the Highway Department, so this item will be heard later in the
meeting.
Agenda Item No. 7. To consider a request from the Rivanna Water and
Sewer Authority to abandon a section of Route614 (Sugar Hollow Road), 1.88
miles in length to public use, in order to allow the closing of access to
Sugar Hollow Reservoir property after dark (deferred from September 7, 1988).
Mr. Agnor stated that there were eight questions raised at the Public
Hearing on the road closing at Sugar Hollow. These questions were passed on
to Mr. George Williams, Mr. Frank Johnstone and Mr. George St. John for
responses. He summarized the questions and answers as they were listed in Mr.
Agnor's October 7, 1988, memorandum to the Board.
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Mr. Lindstrom asked if it is fair to offset the maintenance and capital
costs of installing a gate against the cost of hiring a security guard. Mr.
Agnor answered, "yes."
Mr. Bowie said that in Mr. Johnstone's letter of response to the ques-
tions that were raised at the public hearing, he mentioned that a radio might
help the caretaker get help quicker because, when a problem arises, he would
not have to go back to a telephone and call 911. He noted that the radio was
not mentioned in the cover memo and asked if there was a reason that this
suggestion was left out. Mr. Agnor responded, "yes." He said that getting to
a telephone is not the primary reason for not getting quick responses to calls
for help. He pointed out that trespassers sometimes have monitoring radios
and, by the time the police get to Sugar Hollow, the trespassers are gone. He
does not believe a radio would make the response time fa~ter, because the
territory is not large enough at Sugar Hollow to cause t~e caretaker problems
in getting to a telephone. Mr. Agnor then commented that there was a list
provided by the Police Department of the 36 calls for service that were made
and the people that were involved. He said he did not distribute this list
because he did not think that it should be publicly discussed. He mentioned
that there were some calls for service made by people other than the care-
taker.
Mr. Way asked Mr. St. John if he had anything that ~e would like to add.
Mr. St. John answered, "no."
Mr. Way then asked Mr. George Williams if he would like to speak. Mr.
Williams responded that he did not have anything to say, Unless Board members
had questions.
Mr. Lindstrom commented that since the reservoir is owned and maintained
by the Rivanna Authority, all that the Board can do is recommend that a
security guard be hired by the Authority Board and, then, mot approve the
request to abandon the road. The Rivanna Authority's Board must make the
final decision. Mr. Agnor agreed.
Mr. Bain mentioned that some of the landowners have iindicated that there
is also a daytime problem with trespassers on the reservoir. He thinks that
should be considered, also.
Mr. Lindstrom stated that he believes that someone s~ould be at Sugar
Hollow all of the time, except for the winter months.
Mr. Perkins remarked that the game wardens, employed~i~by the Virginia
Commission of Game and Inland Fisheries, spend a lot of time in that area
because the stream and lake are stocked with trout, and bgcause of the illegal
hunting and fishing that occurs there. He said that these game wardens would
probably respond quicker than the State Police. He said ~ihis is a way of
providing law enforcement at Sugar Hollow that has not be~n previously men-
tioned. ,'i
Mr. St. John said if there is no mechanism to assure ithat the Rivanna
Authority will continue to maintain this road, then it is iequally true that
there is no way to assure that this road will be left open. during daylight
hours in the future. He said the fee in this road, if the road is abandoned,
will revert to the City, subject to the Authority's leasei, i If part of this
problem is happening during daylight hours, then the next iistep could be that
the road might be closed 24 hours a day except for people '~uthorized to go
there.
Mr. Agnor stated that one of the things that occurred, when the Rivanna
Water and Sewer Authority was formed was that the City-owned reservoirs and
the County-owned reservoirs were retained in ownership by ~he City and the
County to be certain that they would be used for recreational purposes. He
realizes that there could come a t~me when the Authority m~ght say that the
use of the recreational facility is conflicting with the phblic water supply
and the road should be closed for this reason. He said th~ City continues to
own the Sugar Hollow Reservoir because it wants Sugar HollOw to continue as a
recreational facility. He said the responsibility for that recreational use
is assigned to the Rivanna Authority. He added that this ~ituation is similar
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to Beaver Creek. The County owns that land and leaves Beaver Creek open for
fishing, but the Rivanna Sewer Authority maintains the reservoir.
Mr. Lindstrom said he is not convinced that the problem is going to be as
effectively solved by closing the road. Even if the cost has to be increased
to include more hours for security, he thinks the security guard will be able
to deal more effectively with the issues. He cannot support abandoning the
road because of that fact, and he believes that closing the road will cause
other complications.
Mr. Bowie agreed with Mr. Lindstrom. H~ said he does not think that the
park should be closed to other citizens because of vandalism. He would rather
have security guards on duty or some other kind of backup law enforcement so
that the park can be kept open to the citizehs.
Mr. Way cox~ented that a public heating'has already been held on this
matter. He said there are citizens present at the meeting, and if someone has
a desire to say something that was not said at a previous meeting, he would
give that person an opportunity to speak.
Mr. Joseph Jones said his father has property past the reservoir so he
uses the road through the park. He said at this time of year there are a lot
of hikers and overnight campers who go to the National Park. He said that
most of the hikers and campers that he sees are young adults, but occasionally
there are families with children. He mentioned that should anyone become
injured at night, that person would be denied quick access to medical atten-
tion, if a gate was locked to keep people from using the road. He also
mentioned, in relation to the security guard~ that when driving across Beaver
Creek Road on almost any Friday or Saturday ~ight that there are three or four
cars parked at the reservoir with beer drinking occurring. He thinks that a
security guard could not only serve the Suga~ Hollow Reservoir but could,
perhaps, periodically check the other reservoirs.
Mrs. Millard Matthews, wife of the caretaker of Sugar Hollow Reservoir,
submitted a letter to the Board from her husSand. Mr. Way asked Mrs. Matthews
to read the letter. Mrs. Matthews read this.~letter which indicated that Mr.
Matthews is in favor of the gate because he ~as had threats on his life and is
concerned about the safety of his family. ~
Mr. Fred Landess said he did not feel that it was necessary for him to
make a statement, but he would be happy to g~%e his opinion on any legal
questions. There were no questions for Mr. ~andess, so Mr. Way placed the
matter before the Board. ~
Mr. Bain stated that he is not prepared,! at this time, to support aban-
donment of the road. He thinks that the Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority
should take this first step with the securit~ guard and see what happens. He
also agreed with Mr. Perkins that perhaps thei game wardens could be more
active in the area. He does not think that the overriding risks for the water
source is something this Board needs to consider at this time.
Mr. Lindstrom agreed that the game wardens are a resource, but he thinks
they have more than they can handle and have,to cover considerable territory.
He added that particularly this time of year,i to expect them to do anything
more than they already are doing, is not reasonable.
Mr. St. John explained that the game wardens' responsibility is to
enforce the game laws, but they can arrest arkyone if a crime is committed in
their presence. With respect to poachers, tk~y would be interested in that
sort of thing because it is part of their scope of duties. Vandalism and
trespassing, Mr. St. John said, he thinks are!outside of their responsibility.
Mrs. Cooke asked Mr. St. John if it is a valid consideration to ask the
game wardens for help in addressing this part$cular problem. Mr. St. John
said he would not try to seek a commitment that the game wardens focus on this
particular problem. ~
Mr. Way explained that in order to dispoAe of this matter a motion would
have to be made. Motion was then offered by Mr. Lindstrom and seconded by Mr.
Bowie to deny the request for abandonment and request that the Rivanna Water
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and Sewer Authority consider hiring a security guard for the months suggested
and also for evening hours. Roll was called and the motion carried by the
following recorded vote:
AYES: Messrs. Bain and Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
Mr. Lindstrom commented that he has met a lot of security guards who are
effective in terms of patrolling a building that is not very often used. He
is not sure that these security guards are the sort of people who should be
put out in the woods with all of the activity that goes on at Sugar Hollow.
If the Rivanna Authority does consider a security guard, he hopes the security
agency will be made aware of the dimensions of the problem.
Agenda Item No. 6. Highway Matters.
Mr. Bowie mentioned that he has had calls about the traffic light at the
intersection of Route 20 North and Route 250 East, particularly the left turn
lane coming from the Pantops Shopping Center. He wondered if something could
be done to improve the flow of traffic because the traffic turning left blocks
other traffic on Route 250.
Mr. Roosevelt explained that the problem with this traffic light is a
direct result of the timing with the light on the other side of the Free
Bridge in the City of Charlottesville. He said that the iVDoT's Traffic
Engineer has written to the City Traffic Engineer to see =if the lights can be
coordinated. Mr. Roosevelt said that he didn't think that anything can be
done unless there can be better coordination between the !two lights or if the
City can increase the time for the Long Street traffic movement.
Mr. Lindstrom mentioned a letter dated October 3, 1988, addressed to Mr.
Robert W. Tucker, Deputy County Executive, from Mr. R. L. Hundley, Environmen-
tal~Engineer for the Department of Transportation, regarding the Route 29
corridor study. He said the Joint Transportation Committee requested certain
modeling that would include Route 29 with the grade-sepa=ated interchanges
(Route 29 at Hydraulic and Rio Roads), which have been pa~t of the CATS Study
for-a long time. Mr. Lindstrom said it appears that this'.!iletter from Mr.
Hundley is a categorical denial of everything the Committee asked for. Nor
will the detailed maps of the bypass alternatives that ar~ being considered be
available in October as had been indicated. He added tha~ a staff meeting set
to review those maps has now been cancelled. The Highway!.!Department also
indicated that it does not intend to meet with the Joint Committee until
December or January, and other meetings will be scheduled!lwith the staff as
the Department sees fit. !i
Mr. Lindstrom said is concerned about this apparent ~%~nilateral deletion
of part of the study. He went on to say that if an expressway is not built
and a bypass is built, those interchanges are critical~ b~cause east/west
traffic flow across Route 29 at Rio and Hydraulic Roads i~ at unacceptable
levels of service. He said the letter indicates that the~e was a hearing in
October, 1986, and significant citizen testimony was rece~ved against the
interchange at Rio Road. Based upon that, it has been deleted from further
consideration, and he is appalled at that attitude.
Mr. Lindstrom said there was no comment by either the County or City on
this project because of the concerns about other improvements, but he feels
that the Board needs to be aware of the action that has b~n taken by the
Transportation Department. He does not know what needs t~i be done, but if
sighificant pieces of the CATS Study are not going to be ~mplemented, then he
thinks it is critical, i~
Mr. Lindstrom called attention again to the letter a~d said that the
Department of Transportation indicates that it does not tl~ink that this
situation is anything more than a design matter and would~inot affect traffic
volumes. He noted, however, that if there is an unacceptable level of service
at the major intersections, it will certainly affect traffic volumes as people
look for other ways to get into Charlottesville. He wondered if a formal
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resolution should be adopted by the Board indicating support of the resolution
unanimously adopted by the Joint Transportation Conm~ittee on September 23,
1988. He is concerned when letters are received and the Board does not
respond to-them because it may seem as though the County is not interested in
the matter. He said out of the 500 people who spoke at the public hearing on
the grade-separated interchange at Rio Road, there could not have been more
than 10 to 25 percent who spoke against it. He said the County Board of
Supervisors is on record as having said nothing. Mr. Lindstrom said the
County staff does not keep records of these VDoT meetings, because it was
feared that the Highway Department would be offended if such records were
kept. He feels that if a bypass is constructed and the interchanges are not
built, it will be even harder for traffic to move up and down Route 29.
Travelers on Rio and Hydraulic Roads, with a~shortened amount of green light
time as the traffic pressure from north/south increases, will have a hard time
getting across eight lanes of traffic. He thinks the Board needs to show in
the record that the interchanges at Hydraulic and Rio Roads should not be
deleted and that these project improvements are essential.
Mr. Bowie said he will support Mr. Lindstrom's statement. He mentioned,
however, that it is not the first time the Board has written short, clear
requests for projects and have gotten long answers from the VDoT that in
effect say the projects will not be done. H~ does not think, regardless of
what the final outcome is, that the Committee representing the Board of
Supervisors, the City of Charlottesville and~the University can continually
accept denials of its requests and let them Pass. In his opinion, when
nothing is said, it is the same as an acceptance of the VDoT's plans. He
thinks that the Board should respond, and wh~ther or not grade-separated
interchanges are approved, the VDoT should b~ informed that the County does
not want the interchanges dropped from the p~oject.
Mr. Bain asked if the response to the request that the modeling be done
without the CATS Study's connector road between Route 20 South and Route 631
(Fifth ~Street Extended) is addressed. In res ,onse, Mr. Lindstrom read from
Mr. Hundley's letter which indicated that, ''~ .1 improvements included in the
approved Charlottesville area transportation )lan will be considered when the
forecast traffic volumes are determined for ~e six candidate build alterna-
tives. The exception is the interchanges on'~Route 29 at Hydraulic and Rio
Roads." He then read the rationale for this
Mr. Bain remarked that the Department oi
cally stated whether it will or will not cons
20 South. Mr. Lindstrom answered that VDoT ~
sider the connector road to Route 20 South,
that was left in the CATS Study. He said th~
meeting last month as to what would be consid
the Department of Transportation indicated t~
decision.
Transportation has not specifi-
ider the connector road to Route
as indicated that it will con-
~cause it is one of the things
a discussion was held at the
ered by VDoT, and a consultant in
at the Meadow Creek Parkway would
not be shown as a bypass alternative because ~hat will not be its function.
He said it is as though that discussion never, happened. He said the Rio Road
connector was not included in any local plan,I but it is shown in the model.
He said the Transportation Department indicated that it had to be shown
because it is part of the formal CATS Study and has never been formally
deleted. He said the Committee asked the Transportation Department to study
the effect of the interchanges, but the Department is not going to do that.
He pointed out that the interchanges are clearly a significant part of the
CATS Study, and when asked about this inconsistency, the Transportation
Department said the interchanges were looked at as a design feature, and the
Rio connector road was considered as a long range part of the plan. He said
the Transportation Department made its own characterizations to suit its
purposes, and he thinks that the County is getting "double-talk." He believes
that the interchanges, at this point, are fundamental tothe whole system of
traffic on Route 29, and whether or not the i~terchanges are constructed, will
have an effect on how traffic patterns evolveiiin the planning period and how
much traffic will use the Meadow Creek Parkway.
Mr. Bowie thinks that a response should ~e made by the Board to the VDoT
indicating that the interchanges should be included in the modeling. He
thinks, too, that the study should show the effect of the traffic with or
without the interchanges. Mr. Lindstrom reiterated that the Committee's
resolution requested that all of the features shown in the CATS plan be
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studied and that various features be deleted and added so that the variable
picture could be shown.
Motion was offered by Mr. Lindstrom and seconded by Mr. Bowie. to request
staff to draft language to endorse the resolution adopted on September 23 by
the Joint Transportation Committee concerning Route 29. No vote was taken.
Mr. Bain asked if the Metropolitan Planning Organization (aPO) should
take action on this matter and frame a response to the Highway Department,
also. Mr. Bowie agreed that the aPO should be contacted, and also suggested
that the Joint Committee address the situation again.
At the meeting in May of this year when the six alternatives were shown,
Mr. Lindstrom said, he asked Mr. Hunt, who was making the presentation, if
property owners near these roads could be comfortable knowing there would not
be any new routes added. Mr. Lindstrom said the response was that these were
the six alternatives, and there would not be anymore. He added that now
significant new roads are being shown. His perception is that there has been
a dramatic change in the approach of the consultant and the Transportation
Department because the initial impetus was to have an open process in working
with the Committee and the community in the hope that this would make the
final solution more acceptable. He said questions have been asked that the
consultant from YDoT has not been able to answer, and Mr.liLindstrom's opinion
now is that VDoT feels that there is more to lose by havfng an open public
process than there is to gain.
Mr. Bowie mentioned that he will be attending the Highway Department's
Conference on October 26, and he would like to have some information on this
question to take with him. He thinks it is sometimes more beneficial to get
ideas to the workers at the staff level than the people Who answer the let-
ters. '"
Mr. Way asked if the Board could receive this information by next Wednes-
day. Mr. Agnor answered, "yes." Mr. Lindstrom said he thinks it is impor-
tant to get the information as quickly as possible. He said it might be
appropriate to indicate in the resolution that neither th9 City nor the County
has taken any action to recommend the deletion of these i~terchanges from the
plan.
Mr. Way said he had received a petition from some citizens requesting a
new bridge across the creek just before the Route 620 Country Store. He
handed the petitions to Mr. Roosevelt. ·
Agenda Item No. 8. ZTA-88-2. To amend the permitted uses of 29.0,
Planned Development - Industrial Park District (deferred from September 7,
1988).
Mr. Horne explained the proposal to amend the permitted uses of 29.0,
Planned Development - Industrial Park District. He said ~he Board held its
advertised public hearing on this amendment on August 7 11988, but action was
deferred until September 7, 1988. On that date, staff wa~ requested to
resubmit this information to the Board, showing all of th~' language for
Section 29.0. That language was submitted with the pape~ork for this meet-
Mr. Lindstrom remarked that he has studied the amendment, and the differ-
ences are minor. He said a couple of items are permitted i!:~in the existing LI
and HI zones that are not permitted anywhere or not in th~I' same fashion in the
PD-IP. He said these differences do not appear to him to >.bea problem. He
asked if the dwelling that is permitted by-right in the L~ Zone is a caretak-
er's structure. Mr. Home answered, "yes."
Mr. Lindstrom then asked if the staff still feels tha~ there is an
advantage to having this amendment. He said the amendmentii provides for a
larger setting and more of a mixture of uses within one s~ting than tradi-
tional zoning. Mr. Horne agreed and said the staff would ~ike to be as
flexible as possible concerning mixed uses in many of the ~ones. The staff
thinks this is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and iks confident of the
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performance standards in the industrial zones. He said that no matter what
use is put in the industrial zones, performance standards have to be met, and
many have supplementary regulations. From Mr. Horne's point of view, he does
not feel that it is tremendously important for county government to control
specific lists of uses as long as the general categories are correct and
performance standards are applied. In this situation, an application plan is
also being applied where the interrelationship of the uses is controlled.
Motion was offered by Mr. Lindstrom and~seconded by Mr. Bain to adopt the
following ordinance to amend 29.0 Planned Development - Industrial Park to
allow for uses as they may be established in!27.0 Light Industry and 28.0
Heavy Industry Zones. Roll was called and the motion carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None..
AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND
REENACT THE ALBEMARLE COUNTY
ZONING ORDINANCE IN SECTION 29.0
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT - INDUSTRIAL PARK - PD-IP
BE IT ORDAINED that the Board of Supervisors of Albemarle
County, Virginia, does hereby amend and reenact the Albemarle County
Zoning Ordinance in Section 29.0, Planned Development - Industrial
Park - PD-IP, as follows:
Repeal 29.2, Permitted Uses, in its entirety, and in its place
put the following language:
29.2 PERMITTED USES
29.2.1 BY RIGHT - CATEGORY I
29.2.2
The following uses shall be permitted in any area desig-
nated as Category I on the app!roved application plan:
1. Uses permitted by right shall include uses permitted
by right in the LI lighti!industry district.
BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT - CATEGORY I
29.2.3
Uses permitted by special use permit shall include uses
permitted by special use permi~ in the LI light industry
district; provided that no separate application shall be
required for any use included )n the approved application
plan.
BY RIGHT - CATEGORY II
The following uses shall be permitted in any area desig-
nated as Category II on the approved application plan:
29.2.4
1. Uses permitted by right shall include uses permitted
by right in the LI light ~ndustry district and the HI
heavy industry district.
BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT - CATEGORY II
Uses by special use permit shatl include uses permitted by
special use permit in the LI l~ght industry district and
the HI heavy industry district~' provided that no separate
application shall be required for any use included on the
approved application plan.
In Section 29.5, Additional Require~.~ents, change the reference
to section 21.0 to 26.0. ~i
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At this time, Mr. Way recognized the presence of Ms..Elmira Hurd, from
the League of Women Voters.
Agenda Item No. 9. Agreement Visitors' Bureau. Mr. Agnor said the
County/City/Chamber committee which was formed to revise the Visitors' Bureau
agreement for the operation of the Bureau, has forwarded the proposed agree-
ment for review and approval. The major changes are:
1. The nine member appointed Commission is discontinued.
The funding support changes from an annual negotiated process
among the three entities, to a formula for the City and County
calculated on the relative income from sales tax revenues and
equalized (two percent) lodging tax revenues, and the Chamber's
contribution of $23,500 the first year (1988-89) and increasing
three percent per year.
The financial results of the changes are:
The Bureau is authorized to take on the added responsibility of
support services to group meetings, conventions, etc. from funds
generated by the Bureau staff. These funds ar~ currently derived
from advertisement panels at the Center, advertisements in
lodging/restaurant brochures, commissions on sale of tickets to
local attractions, and commissions on lodging meservations.
The agreement is for a five-year period with p~ovisions for five
year renewals, and a six months cancellation n~ice.
The Chamber's contribution is changed from a cdnstant $15,000 share
to a $23,000 share, which will increase three percent per year.
The ratio of the County and City share is changed from a constant
66.7 percent City/33.3 percent County split to a formula with
factors that may change slightly each year. Initial estimates are
62 percent City/38 percent County split.
Mr. Way announced that he and Mr. Bain have been meeting with the Visi-
tors' Bureau concerning the proposed new agreement and a Copy has been given
to the Board members. He pointed out that one of the prablems in the past,
from the Board's point of view, has been the amount of the of contribution by
the Chamber of Commerce. He noted that the contribution ifor the Chamber has
been increased in the new agreement and there is a provis~ion for it to be
increased at the rate of three percent annually. Mr. WaM!said this agreement
will keep the Visitors' Bureau in the same status as it i~ now, which requires
it to serve as a welcoming center for tourists and give t~em information abou~
the area. This agreement also allows the Visitors' Burea~ to begin promoting
the area, but only with funds generated by the Bureau itself and by a portion
of the Chamber' s contributions.
Mr. Way said he has one suggestion for a change in the agreement. He
suggested that the first line of Number One of the agreement state: "The
parties shall operate the Bureau to assist visitors in our area and enhance
tourism within the Charlottesville and Albemarle area." He believes this more
clearly defines what the Bureau actually does.
Mr. Bain remarked that a sentence needs to be added to Number Seven (b)
stating that the Chamber's share shall increase each yearlby three percent.
Mr. Lindstrom suggested the sentence read: "The amount o~ the Chamber's
contribution shall increase by three percent in each succeeding year over the
previous year's contributions."
Mr. Lindstrom said he could not understand the formula that was used for
the City's and County's shares. Mr. Agnor explained the formula, and said the
equalization of the City's lodging tax is anticipated to ~e at a two percent
collection rate because its actual rate is higher than the County's. Mr.
Lindstrom wondered if it would be helpful to have an actual example with
numbers listed.
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Mr. Bowie called attention to the second page of the memo and Number Two
under the financial results. He said it shows that initial estimates are 62
percent City/38 percent County split. He said if these numbers could be
explained, he thought that everything else would make sense. Mr. Way
explained that this agreement has been pending for a year and a half. He said
that everything in the Bureau's budget was held where it had been in the past.
Mr. Agnor disagreed with Mr. Way as to the length of time that the agreement
has been pending by saying that in 1984 the Board questioned the fact that the
Chamber's share was still frozen and so the County froze its share beginning
in 1984 until a new agreement could be drafted. This agreement is the first
draft since that time.
Mr. Lindstrom said he is concerned about Number Seven (d) in the agree-
ment relating to added responsibilities of the Bureau. He said he does not
mind if the Bureau is authorized to take on these added responsibilities, or
if the Chamber or the other private organizations in this community want to
fund a convention center through the Visitors' Bureau. He does, however,
believe that those funds that are being generated by the activities of the
Bureau should stay the way they are and not be contributed to these activi-
ties. He thinks that if the private sector wants to get into. the convention
business then the private sector should fund it because the direct results
will go to the private sector. He said some~people say there is a tremendous
benefit to having conventions and that sales*~tax revenues will go up. He has
been to communities where conventions have b~come big business, and there is a
significant difference between having a tourism trade oriented to families or
individuals and a tourism trade oriented to conventions. If the private
sector thinks this is beneficial, then it is the private sector's right to
stimulate it. If this is done through the Bureau, that is fine, but Mr.
Lindstrom would rather have it done with mone, y that is completely generated by
the private sector.
Mrs. Cooke agreed with Mr. Lindstrom and said she remembers that the
Board has had a similar discussion in the pa~t. She said the County has done
some basic things to foster tourism by providing a building and basic funding,
and she thinks it is up to the private sector, to go after what the private
sector wants. She thinks, too, that if the ~rivate sector benefits from
something, then it should be funded by the p~ivate sector. She believes if
the County gets involved with funding in an area such as this one, it will set
a precedent. She reminded members of the Board that these same feelings were
brought out in previous discussions.
Mr. Bain asked what the Bureau's total ~dget is for this year. Mr.
Agnor replied that the Bureau's total budget--!this year is $202,870. Mr. Bain
asked how much of the total budget is from City and the County funding. Mr.
fund and request the
Agnor replied that the County was asked to $55,174 the to
City was for 110,3.47. The County actually funded $47,025. Mr. Bain asked if
the remaining $37,000 is coming from the Cham~ber's contribution plus the other
amounts that are being raised from advertisemsnts and other measurements. Mr.
Agnor answered, "yes." He added that the Bu~pau sells advertising space to
restaurants and hotels in brochures and adver~isement panels at the Center.
He said the Bureau ms also paid fees for selli~ng tickets to local attractions.
Mr. Lindstrom said he agrees with Mr. Wa~'s suggestion concerning the
insertion of new wording in Number One of the.i~~'agreement. He said as the funds
generated by the Bureau are used more and mor~ to promote conventions, the
individual visitor will be lost. He thinks t~at service to the individual
visitor will become secondary, at best. He b~lieves government functions
ought to be facilitating tourism and assistin~ visitors. He said this area
has significant international historic resources, and he thinks that there is
an obligation to facilitate these resources, llHe added that when conventions
are being promoted, that is a business, and aI~service to the individual
visitor is not being provided. He thinks government funds should be providing
service and private money should be promoting
Mr. Bowie said he has, throughout the ye~
funding for the Bureau. He feels that the Ch
benefit the most from any kind of promotional
Way's suggestion relating to the insertion
agreement, but he believes that the words sho~
clearly state that the primary purpose of the
business.
rs, opposed any increase in the
mber and its members would
activities. He concurs with Mr.
words into Number One of the
id be stronger and should
Bureau, as long as it receives
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public funds, is to assist the individual tourist. Any promotion.of any type
of convention or group should be paid for by the Chamber of Commerce funds or
by the money earned by sales, and not by taxes.
Mr. Bowie said he has studied the beneifits of the tourist trade and
there is more than $30,000,000 a year spent in Albemarle County and $9,000,000
of that money is spent specifically on meals. If this impact is considered,
that generates sufficient funds to finance three new schools. He believes
that this agreement provides for private money to be used to provide promo-
tional services and that public money will be used to provide assistance to
tourists.
Mr. Way said he feels this agreement is a fair compromise and worthy of
the Board's support. He said the agreement provides for such a small amount
of money to go toward the solicitation of conventions for this area, that he
does not think that there is any danger of the Board being swamped with
requests from other organizations. He does not see anything wrong with the
County beginning to reap some of the benefits of the smaller conventions, and
he is prepared to support the concept of this agreement.
Mr. Perkins asked Mr. Agnor to give the Board members an idea of what
this budget involves by indicating how many people work a~ the Bureau, and how
the money is spent.
Mr. Agnor replied that there is a Director of the Bureau and a staff of
five people who work at the desk seven days a week, during daylight hours
only. These staff people are carried on the City's personnel system, so he
does not remember all of the details of the costs. He said the Bureau pro-
duces brochures which have no advertisements in them. These brochures are
handed out to visitors and are made available at the Visitors' Center A
lodging and restaurant brochure is also produced which, until two years ago,
was produced with money from the Bureau's funds. Now, hQwever, it has adver-
tisements in it and generates some money, but not enough ~to cover the total
cost. He said there is also some advertising for Charlottesville and
Albemarle in travel guides and travel agency writers come here to write about
the historic attractions. Out of the $200,000 budget, Mr.~ Agnor said,
$15,000 is spent on advertising. He said this is a pittance compared to what
is spent on advertising in publications distributed in the eastern part of the
United States. Another expense involves bus tour meetings that the director
attends with people who conduct travel trips, especially for senior citizens.
These meetings occur twice a year and bus tour people meet with people who are
trying to get tours to come to their area. Mr. Agnor safd the Visitors'
Bureau also pays a square footage cost for the area that ~it occupies, and that
cost goes to the Debt Service Fund on the building. The~ is also some cost
for the building's maintenance and operations. He said t~e budget has a fee
included for rent which involves bond payments and operati~ons costs.
Mr. Lindstrom stated that he could support the agre~ent if the last
sentence of Number Seven (d) is amended to read: "The co~t of this portion of
the Bureau's program shall be borne by the Chamber of Co~erce and such other
private sources as may be available and not by revenues generated by the
operation of the Bureau." He asked that a formula be inserted with the actual
numbers included, and that the changes that Mr. Way and M~. Bain suggested
also be included.
Mr. Bain said he thought the language for Number Sev~n (b) of the agree-
ment should say: "The Chamber of Commerce's contribution~,.~shall increase in
each succeeding year by three percent over the previous year's contributions."
Mr. Bowie asked that instead of adding a phrase to t~e first sentence in
Number One of the agreement, that a statement be added that states: "The
primary purpose is to assist the individual tourist." M~. Bowie said this
should be clearly stated in the actual agreement. Mr. Ba~'n suggested incorpo-
rating the preamble in Number One of the agreement.
At this point, Mr. Way asked the staff to return the i!agreement to the
Board with the changes suggested as quickly as possible, iMf. Agnor informed
the Board that the Chamber is having a meeting on the agreement tomorrow and
the City Council will be meeting on Monday night. He said that he would bring
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any of their changes back and consolidate them with this Board's recommenda-
tions.
(Note: The Board recessed at 10:33 A.M. and reconvened at 10:41 A.M.
Mr. St. John returned at 10:44 A.M.)
Agenda Item No. 10. Emergency Operations Plan, Summary. Mr. Michael
Carroll, Emergency Services Coordinator, was present to discuss the emergency
operations plan prepared for the County. He said this plan is a general
statement of the responsibilities of county departments, state government
departments and local non-profit agencies in times of emergencies. It is not
a set of standard operating procedures, nor can it substitute for such proce-
dures for operating departments. Instead, it attempts to outline the basis
for cooperative action by a number of agencies. He said this plan includes a
new section developed by the Charlottesville/Albemarle Local Emergency Plan-
ning Committee for response to hazardous materials incidents at local facili-
ties. It was written to comply with the Emergency Planning and Community
Right to Know Act of 1986 (also known as SARA).
Agenda Item No. 11. Appeal: Tract A, Phase I, Landfall Final Plat.
This matter was brought before the Board by a letter dated September 14, 1988,
from the applicant, Captain Bruce S. van der'Linde, in which he stated that
the appeal is to Section 18-36(e) of the Subdivision Ordinance which required
a minimum design standard for three to five ~ots. The standard calls for a
fourteen foot wide travelway with six inchesilof gravel and four foot shoulders
and a ditch on each side. He appeals and asks for relief from the requirement
regarding four foot shoulder widths throughout the approximately 700 feet of
roadway. ~
Mr. Horne said that when this request f~r a waiver of a portion of
Section 18-36(e) was before the Planning ComMission on September 6, 1988, it
was unanimously denied. He pointed out on a map the section of roadway in
question and the proposed tract A which is a~22 acre parcel which is listed as
being the first portion of Landfall which is ~a division of a portion of the
residue acreage. He emphasized that it is b~ a different subdivision than
what is called Solaris.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if all of this areai~ould have access over the Helios
Path Road. Mr. Horne answered, "no." He reminded the Board of a long appeal
process for Landfall approximately a year agO!. Based on that appeal, the
Board approved an access at another location~pn the public road for these four
lots. He said this request is for access for only the proposed Tract A of
Landfall. There are, however, four parcels ~hat would need access to some
portion of the roadway, but the rest of Land~all would have another access.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if any of these four{ parcels have
remaining
develop-
ment rights. Mr. Horne replied, "no." He salid~ Tract A cannot be further
divided without a Special Permit.
Mr. Way said there could only be a maximum of four houses on these
tracts. Mr. Home responded that this is true, except for the residue acre-
age. He said if the residue is further divided, it could technically take
access over the roadway in question, but he did not know if it would be
approved that way. He said it has never bee~ addressed, because Mr. van der
Linde has never made the staff aware of his ~ntentions regarding this matter.
Mr,. Lindstrom pointed out two of the foHr tracts on the map and asked if
they access over only a portion of the roadway. Mr. Horne replied, "yes."
He noted that these two driveways are very neiar the intersection of Omega
Court. He said there is only a small portio~ of this segment of the roadway
that is directly affected by the driveways to~!the current residences.
Mr. Bain asked if Lot Ten in Solaris is accessing onto a portion of the
roadway rather than Omega Court in order that~Omega Court would not have to be
paved. Mr. Horne responded that Mr. Bain is correct. He said if the driveway
to Lot Ten in Solaris was switched to Omega Cburt, it would solve one problem,
but it would push the count on Omega Court to, a new category which would
require that Omega Court be upgraded.
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Mr. Bowie commented that the proposed Parcel A and the existing residue
would use the road'above Omega Court plus the driveway to Lot 10 in Solaris,
if it is not changed to another road. He also mentioned a deep ravine in that
area that flooded which would make the chance of any significant development
unlikely. Mr. Home answered that there is still residue acreage on the other
side of the ravine, which is Mr. van der Linde's farm. He said some division
is possible, but he does not know if this is Mr. van der Linde's intent. He
said he wanted to clarify the methodology of the Subdivision Ordinance in
terms of segments of roadways. He went on to say that it is clearly shown in
the diagram in the Subdivision Ordinance that the point at which there can be
changes in the basic design of the roadway are intended to be at intersections
and are not to be at individual driveway connections. He commented that if
the design was stepped down at each individual entrance, it would not be a
good road design and would be extremely impractical. He said the staff
understands the reasoning behind the request, but the Commission, in particu-
lar, is quite concerned about permitting lesser road standards on roadways,
because private road requirements are a very important component of rural
development in Albemarle County.
Mr. Bowie asked where the trees are located in this area. Mr. Horne
replied that many trees have been left immediately adjacent to the roadway to
serve as a buffer between the roadway and areas behind the roadway which had
been forested in the past. He said the point of discussion is whether it is
necessary to use the standard shoulder width and ditch w~dth in order to
provide the necessary drainage to this private road became the construction
will alter some of these trees. He pointed out that Mr. i!~Steve Cresswell, from
the Engineering Department is also present, if the Board Would like to hear
from him.
Mr. Lindstrom said he assumes the conditions relating to the appeal are
that the circumstances constitute other unusual conditions, and would result
in extraordinary hardship in terms of the elimination of~,~hose trees along
that roadway (Section 18-3 of the Subdivision Ordinance)~i' He does not see any
other basis to waive the roadway standards other than that or possibly the
last sentence of that section of the ordinance that dealSiwith substitution of
technique, and design or materials. He asked Mr. St. Johh if there is any-
thing in the law that states that the kinds of conditions< that have been
described at this meeting do not constitute unusual conditions or extraordi-
nary hardship.
Mr. St. John replied that he takes these two sentences of the Subdivision
Ordinance as being almost opposite one another. He said ~his request would be
heard by the BZA instead of the Board of Supervisors, if lit involved the
Zoning Ordinance, but the BZA cannot grant variances to the Subdivision
Ordinance. He went on to say that he does not see any reason to grant a
waiver under the first sentence which relates to creating~a hardship for the
owner, and believes it may be more appropriate to relate ~the request to the
second sentence. He said if the Board feels that the wai~er is justified,
then it could be granted, based upon a finding that by su.bstitution of this
plan, the developer is producing a product that is betterii~environmentally for
the general public and for the development itself. He s~$d it is not a legal
question, but a decision for the Board to make.
Mr. Lindstrom said Mr. St. John has answered his question, and agreed
that hardship has to be defined as an ob3ect~ve standard, i Mr. St. John said
he believes the applicant will argue that what he has off,red to produce with
this waiver will be a better product than what would be p~'oduced if the
ordinance is followed exactly as it is written.
Mr. Way opened the public hearing.
With the aid of some visual materials, Mr. van der L~nde showed the Board
the 700 feet of roadway in question and said he believes ~hat hardship is
described differently for different people. He said he h~s lived on his farm
for 19 years, and it is a historic place. The roadbed da~es back to at least
1830, which is the age of his house, and the tall trees o~ the right and left,
that have a girth of 18 inches or greater and are fifty t~ seventy years old,
were preserved in various timber contracts. He said he h~s been a forester
since 1969 and is active in forestry practices. He mentioned, also, that
forestry tours came to the farm when it was featured in 1~81 as the farm with
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the most outstanding forestry practices in the County. Mr. van der Linde is a
member of the Cooperative Forestry Management Team, and has been an American
tree farmer since 1976. He mentioned that the other two parties who own land
along this roadway Would also consider following this requirement a hardship
because, although they are not professional foresters, they would feel a
certain loss if these trees were taken down. He mentioned that in the Coun-
ty's next Comprehensive Plan, there are references to preservation techniques.
He described these techniques listed in the Plan and went on to say, in regard
to proposed development, that at the suggestion of a member of the Board of
Supervisors and a member of the Commission, he approached his two neighbors
about restricting the point of access because there was concern about down-
grading if another driveway or road was permitted to access these five and 21
acre parcels. Now, one driveway is 15 feet past the intersection, and the
other is 25 feet past the intersection. He said one of the parties was
building a house at the time this issue began, and has since moved into the
house. Mr. van der Linde said the two other!parties involved have agreed in
principle, but a document will have to be drawn that will restrict points of
access. He mentioned, too, that there are no other subdivision or building
rights for this property beyond what already~exists with the principal
entrance. He said this agreement would not ~estrict access for firewood or
farming purposes, but involves a transition at Omega Court and Helios Path.
Mr. van der Linde said the roadway involved would change from a paved 16 foot
W~
wide roadway to a gravel, 14 foot wide road ay. He suggested, with this point
of access restriction, that the road be changed to a driveway standard. If
there were any upgrading for any of these twO properties or for Mr. van der
Linde's property in the future, the matter would have to be brought before the
Commission and would have to meet the standards at that time.
Mr. van der Linde said he has worked wi{h a Mr. Cabell for 19 years in
forestry. Mr. Cabell, who was with the VirgSnia Division of Forestry, and is
now a private forester, surveyed the property in question and presented
letters to the Commission which said there w~re approximately 109 trees of a
girth six inches or greater that would be lost by creating a wider road. This
road, while there are some saplings along thp side of it, basically has served
hundreds of tractor trailers and tour buses. Mr. van der Linde said it has a
solid road base and two cars can meet and pass. He believes.one of the major
factors in this appeal is the potential agreement on a point of access
restriction to the two residences. He said ~here is a strong case for the
hardwoods which have been protected in legal~:timber contracts. He went on to
say that he has spent his life in Solaris preserving trees, and without
exception, no trees can be cut down in this ~3 acre community. Mr. van der
Linde then discussed the general standards o4 what is hoped will occur with
the scenic quality in Albemarle County in th~
said Mr. Richard Gould, who was on the Plann~
road from Solaris, and Mr. Gould has made th~
that Solaris was there. Mr. van der Linde ad
impact that he has been working on for almost
the house that he lives in is shown on an 187
he is requesting is consistent with 19 years
hopes to continue to live there because it i!
beauty of walking under these trees could be
of the safety standards, and it is his desire
safety while maintaining something that is be
proposed Comprehensive Plan. He
ng Commission, lives down the
comment that he didn't even know
ded that this is the type of
a decade. He then remarked that
5 map as "Merry Oaks," and what
of effort. He lives there and
his farm and his home, and the
~eplaced for years. He knows all
to meet all of the standards of
· utiful. He does not think the
two are incompatible. He hopes that the Board will ask him questions, and
hopes that his presentation has been helpful,~
Mr. Lindstrom asked the width of the roadway once it passes Omega Court.
Mr. van der Linde replied that the road width varies from 12 to 16 feet,
excluding the bank. He said he started to c~ear saplings to show members of
the Board the sight distance and the width o~ithe road, but it was suggested
that photographs Would be more appropriate.
Mr. Lindstrom asked, regardless of whet~er this waiver is granted, if Mr.
van der Linde would be constructing a six-inc~'~ base for a width of 14 feet on
the entire length of the roadway. Mr. van der Linde responded that he could
do that, or he could consider a private driveway with the appropriate improve-
ments. He said saving the trees is his primary interest.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the primary concern is the two foot shoulder on
each side of the roadway which would require 61earing the trees. Mr. van der
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Linde answered that the shoulder requirement is four feet on each side. He
went on to say that he and Mr. Cabell measured 14 feet with no problem, and in
many areas, there is a greater than four foot bank. He pointed out that there
are hundreds of places in Albemarle County where there are trees 18 inches
from a State road. He said in some areas the banks extend five to ten feet or
more on each side, but there are some areas where there are some hardwoods.
He called the Board's attention to the pictures of some 40 year old trees at
some of the driveways, and said the trees provide a beautiful canopy and are
viewed from the homes of the other parties involved. Hementioned that the
three people involved are at the meeting today and have all discussed the
situation and share the same sense of pride in the beauty of the trees. He
said he and his neighbors want to do what is safe and hope that there is a way
to accommodate what nature has put there long before they moved there.
Mr. Chuck Orella spoke next and stated that he and his wife live in Lot
10, which is the piece of property that is bordered by Omega Court and by the
section of Helios Path that is under discussion. He admitted that he has
mixed feelings on the matter and said he would speak in ~wo roles. He spoke
first as part of the Solaris Homeowners Association, of ~hich he is the
current Vice President. He believes he can say, with a degree of confidence,
that most of the people in the Association view this portion of Helios Path as
being a private driveway, and they would like for it to remain that way. The
Solaris Homeowners Association has no desire to see this section of roadway
become incorporated into the private road system that is part of the Solaris
Subdivision. He agrees With the people in the Association and really would
like for the roadway to stay as a private driveway. ~
Mr. Lindstrom asked if there is a maintenance agreement between the
Solaris homeowners. Mr. Orella responded, "yes." He said, however, the
section of roadway in question does nog have a maintenance agreement, and
everyone in the Association that he has spoken to would p~efer that this
section of roadway not be included into the private roadli~aintenance agree-
ment. He thinks an agreement between the two parties involved, however, would
he.viewed favorably by the Association. He went on to say that if the piece
of property is incorporated into the private road system of Solaris, most of
the homeowners would be in favor of requiring Mr. van der.~Linde to meet the
current County standards. In this sense, Mr. Orella sai~ the Solaris home-
owners will probably not be in favor of granting an appea~. He added that if
an ,agreement is reached between himself, Mr. van der Lind~ and the other
property owner, he believes the Association would look upon that favorably.
He said he has some questions because he is not sure whatiiMr, van der Linde
has in mind, and he has not seen any detailed plans. He ~emarked that one
point has been cleared up for him relating to what would ~appen if further
subdivision of the residue on Mr. van der Linde's propert~ took place. He
said the discussion at this meeting has pointed out that ~f subdivision
occurs, it would be required to be appealed and road stan~ards.~ would have to
be appealed, as well. Mr. Orella stated that in that senMe, he is probably in
favor of the Board granting an appeal on the basis of a m~tual agreement being
met to limit the access to the section of Helios Path, inlilorder to allow the
road to stay as it is. He said there would not be a requ~rement to add the
ditches as long as the property owners maintain that section, of the driveway.
Mr. Lindstrom commented that he does not see why the iSolaris Homeowners
Association would be required to maintain this section ofi~roadway if it was
not part of the original subdivision. He went on to say ~hat, if it is part
of the original subdivision, then he does not see how the!Association cannot
maintain it. He asked if anybody knows if this section of roadway was
included in the original subdivision.
Mr. Orella said the way the road maintenance agreement and original
covenants were written, Mr. van der Linde wrote in the right to add both homes
and additional roadways to the private road system. He s~id, at this point,
although that section of driveway is not under the privat~ road system, Mr.
van der Linde has the right to add it at this time into t~e Solaris road
system.
Mr. Lindstrom remarked that when there is a private ~oad system, the
County usually requires that there be some provision in the homeowner's
association agreement for the maintenance of the roadway, i He wondered if this
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section of the roadway is covered by a maintenance agreement. Mr. Horne
answered, "no."
Ms. Eleanor Santic stated that she lives across from Mr. Orella. She is
a new resident to Albemarle County, and one of the things that attracted her
to the area was how beautifully kept everything was, and the pride that the
residents of the area have in their community. She said that she came from a
section of New Jersey where development had been allowed to run rampant, and
people would protest after the trees had been cut. She said a seventy year
old tree cannot be put up with "crazy glue," and she would like to see the
variance granted. She also mentioned that she is concerned with the runoff
because she is on a down slope, and the tree roots hold a great deal of water.
She said the top of the trees are beautiful, and she does not think it is
practical to cut down seventy year old trees for access for two-houses. She
pointed out that, if it becomes necessary, trees can always be cut down, but
once they are down, they cannot be put back. On that basis, if the homeowners
can come to an agreement that would consider this part of the roadway as a
private driveway, she would hate to see the "letter of the law" observed when
the spirit of the whole Comprehensive Plan and the spirit of the whole area is
contrary to it.
Mr. Steve Cresswell made some clarifications for the Board and said that
reference to the 700 foot road is incorrect. If the variance is not granted,
the road would go back to where the 22 acre lot starts. He pointed out the
area on the map, and said he believes the deSign standard should not be
waived. He said the Board require that the ~oad be carried past the entrances
to the 21 acre lot and Lot 10 and, by deed restriction, limit any further
primary access beyond those points. This would result in the road being
carried whatever distance is necessary to go ipast those two driveways, and it
would be designed in accordance with the County standards for private roads.
Mr. Home clarified Mr. Cresswell's comments !by saying that the upgrading
could only go to the beginning of Tract A as '.opposed to going through Tract A.
Mr. Horne said even if the standards require that the upgrading of the
road go through Tract A, the requirement could be changed to only go to the
beginning of Tract A. Mr. Horne said Mr. Cresswell thinks it might be a
better idea to waive the chart in the Subdivision Ordinance and require a full
upgrading to a point just past the two driveways. This would involve waiving
the methodology of establishing road segments instead of waiving the actual
construction standards, if there was some so~t of restriction that the primary
access to the residences would remain as is and that the only access beyond
that to the other two tracts would be secondary or accessory access for
farming or forestry purposes.
Mr. Lindstrom said this responds to the ~iissue that the standards are
intended to address how many vehicles will b~i~ driving over the road.
Mr. Home agreed, but said he has some ~eservations because if it becomes
widely known that this is an option, he is co'nce~ned that there will be a lot
of appeals and waiver requests. He agrees with Mr. Cresswell: if the Board
is inclined to waive the road standards in this case, in terms of precedence,
it might be better to waive the method of calculating segments. He said this
is slightly less broad than waiving road standards. He pointed out that the
County got into a pattern of waiving road standards years ago, and the Commis-
sion does not want to have this problem again~ He said if the Board is not
inclined to grant a waiver, then the staff's ~ecommendation stands.
Mr. Bowie said he thinks it would be bett. er to address this waiver as an
exception because of the 30 or 40 years of tr~e management. He feels that to
waive the requirements on that portion of the road after the first two drive-
ways would create the same situation with other County roads.
Mr. Lindstrom said this is an alternativg method of providing for the
public interest by recognizing that there areiestablished hardwoods very close
to the road which in turn set the character o~ that road. His feeling is
that, if another request with those facts came before the Board, he would be
willing to grant that same waiver on these types of facts. He also pointed
out that there would only be two lots that wo~ld be using that portion of the
road.
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If exceptions are taken, Mr. Bain said, the Board might as well allow
private roads, without worrying about standards, throughout the whole County.
When this sort of thing is encouraged, rural areas are opened to more develop-
ment. He likes to preserve trees, but he has a problem with supporting
something that will change adopted standards. Mr. Horne said the Commission
believes these trees are valuable and should be preserved, but they are not
unique to this case. The Commission routinely sees tracts that are being
divided voluntarily in wooded areas.
Mr. Lindstrom said he would agree this is a bad situation only if it is
assumed that the Board will be forced into making exceptions, and he is not
sure if it will make any difference to any rural development whether the trees
are cut or not. He does not think there is a significant expense attached to
the extra four feet on each side of the roadway, but surface treatment would
have an expensefactor involved. He thinks the development will go ahead
because the cost will not prohibit it one way or another. He noted that he
has always been concerned about road standards that seemto require the
unnecessary destruction of the countryside. He believes, in this case, there
is no meaningful purpose served by meeting these standards if the deed
restriction is enforced.
Mr. Bain believes that, if this request is approved~, the sections of the
Subdivision Ordinance relating to how segments are handled might as well be
changed. He believes there will be numerous requests for waivers, and he
thinks it will be nearly impossible for the Board to make any distinction
between the requests.
Mr. Lindstrom remarked that if there is an enforceable recorded deed
restriction that limits access to an existing driveway, and the standard is
required to that driveway, then the purpose of the standard has been met. If
there is not such an enforceable recorded deed restricti6~, then the Board
should not grant the waiver.
Mr. St. 3ohn said he believes the waiver can be cond!itioned with whatever
conditions the Board thinks appropriate to answer these qRestions. He said a
deed restriction is not needed, because a condition can b~ placed on the
waiver. He said a future Board could eliminate the restr~ictions on a waiver,
which would be the only value of having a deed restrictid~.
Mr. Bowie said he has heard the argument that if an pxception is made for
this request there will be a lot of similar requests. He said the Board has
made other exceptions and has not received any such requests that he can
remember. He said he will support the request and would-~ake a motion, with
the conditions that have been discussed, but he is not sure how it should be
worded.
Mr. Lindstrom said the final outcome would be driveway standards for the
remainder of the road in question. He added that the Board needs to decide if
there is some value in having a deed restriction. ~
Mr. St. John said on second thought, he believes the.iHomeowners' agree-
ment that is already recorded contains a provision that ME. van der Linde has
the option to place this entire road under the Solaris Subdivision Homeowners
agreement. He asked, if this is on record, does the Boar~ intend that Mr. van
der Linde no longer have the right to do this as one of t~e conditions of the
variance? He noted that Mr. van der Linde and the other lot owners will have
to maintain that portion of the road, because it would noq be right for the
Board to allow the waiver, and still allow Mr. van der Linde to put the road
into the Solaris Subdivision maintenance agreement. ~
Mr. Lindstrom said he believes this is a matter thati~he landowners need
to settle for themselves. A requirement would make the r~striction more
accessible to buyers. He asked if there was some legal reason why there
should not be a deed restriction. Mr. St. John replied that he does not think
there is a legal reason for not putting a restriction on ~he deed. He said
the Board needs to stipulate what the substance of the restriction would be.
Mr. Lindstrom said he would like for part of his mot{ion to recognize that
there are no further division rights on any of the parcel~ithat are served
with the exception of the residue. Mr. St. John pointed o~t that the residue
October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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613
of Mr. van der Linde's property would have to have access to this portion of
the roadway. Mr. Home disagreed and said the residue could have access
another way. Once this matter is settled, he said, any future divisions will
make necessary a discussion on where the road will be.
Mr. Lindstrom said he thought it should~be stated that three of the four
parcels have no further division rights. The fourth parcel, which is shown as
residue may have further division rights. If these division rights are
exercised, however, then County and State regulations would apply to that
road. He said this variance is not for any further division along this road
and is conditioned upon the preparation of deed restrictions applying to
Parcels One and Two as shown on the plat. The restrictions would limit access
to the existing driveways and would be reviewed by the County Attorney and
recorded as a pre-condition to this waiver. The waiver is that, based upon
those conditions, the standards will not apply beyond the driveway that is on
the tract furtherest~toward the end of the road.
Mr. Bowie added that he thinks there should be an explanation of why the
Board is granting the waiver. M=. Lindstrom.agreed and said the waiver is
granted in consideration of the preservation of the existing substantial
hardwood trees that would be required to be eliminated by the road shoulder
requirements of the current County standards and the fact that the number of
lots that would actually be served by this section of roadway is no more than
two. Mr. Bowie suggested that the motion inc~lude the fact that there have
been 30 years of timber management on this property because he thinks this is
peculiar to this particular request. Mr. Li~dstrom agreed to have Mr. Bowie's
suggestion relative to timber management included in his motion.
Motion was offered by Mr. Lindstrom and seconded by Mr. Bowie to grant
the waiver request subject to recordation of deed restrictions or other legal
covenant, to be reviewed by the County Attorney, restricting access to the
existing dwellings and to the current driveway location, with access to the
remainder of those properties being only accessory access. Roll was called
and the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstr~m, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: Mr. Bain.
Mr. Perkins asked if Tract A has additiQ~al development rights. Mr.
Home answered, "no."
Mr. Lindstrom explained that the condition is that any further division
on this section of the road, with respect to which the waiver has been grant-
ed, triggers the application of the road requirements. Mr. St. John said this
would not be true if another access is. used. the thought that further develop-
ment of the residue would have a different access to the public road.
Mr. Horne responded that portions of the residue will use a different
access, but the "Merry Oaks" farm portion of the property could be served by
this road. Mr. Lindstrom commented that he iS sensitive to Mr. Bain's con-
cerns, and he has tried to accomplish a reasonable compromise which respects
the peculiar nature of these circumstances and also the desire not to encour-
age more development in the rural areas.
Agenda Item No. 12. Public Hearing: Ordinance to vacate plat of Tax Map
88, Parcel 26 (portion of) for Woodco, Inc. (Advertised in the Daily Progress
on September 27 and October 4, 1988.)
Mr. Home presented a chronology of events concerning the Woodco Plat. He
said the staff discussed this plat with Mr. Wood and referred questions to the
County Attorney who determined that Parcel 26
ways, is to be considered one tract and is, ti
Home said Mr. Wood evidently chose to record
does not meet the requirements of the Subdivis
Mr. Home showed the Board the location,
Parcel 26 is separated by a public road and ti
John was requested to explain whether this wo~
even though divided by road-
.erefore, a subdivision. Mr.
a plat creating a parcel that
ion Ordinance.
Parcel 26 on a map and said
railroad. He said Mr. St.
ld be considered separate
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parcels or one parcel. Mr. Horne said Mr. St. John determined that it is all
one parcel, and if any section is divided, it would be considered a subdivi-
sion and would have to meet the requirements of the ordinance. Mr. Horne went
on to say that a plat was submitted that showed a two acre portion, but it
contained portions that were essentially appendages on a different side of the
road or railroad. He said that under the Subdivision Ordinance, the staff
felt the division could not be approved. He said the State Code allows the
Board to vacate a recorded plat after a public hearing. He noted that this is
the public hearing, and Mr. Wood was notified of this hearing by Mr. St. John.
Mr. Way opened the public hearing.
Mr. Wood said the parcel borders on the Southern Railroad, is a deeded
parcel of land and sets off by itself. He stated that he did not see how it
could be looked at in any other way except as two parcels. He said he would
be glad to answer any questions that the Board might have.
At this time, Mr. St. John said he should tell the Board more about the
actual recorded plat. He proceeded to indicate areas on 'the tax map and asked
Mr. Wood to position himself so that he could see the map, too. He then read
portions of the 1986 deed from Grace and John Battle to Mr. Wood, which
indicated that the land was considered to be only one parcel and contained
74.6 acres. He pointed out that the land was considered to be all one parcel
according to this deed, and before this time, the land was always treated as
one parcel. At one time, the property had been an even bigger parcel. Mr.
St. John stated that the deed in question is dated January 9, 1988, and this
was when Mr. Wood and his wife conveyed this property to Woodco, which is Mr.
Wood's corporation. The plat which created the 1.47 acr~parcel does not
follow the right-of-way of the road. He said there appeg[s to be a strip of
land between the right-of-way and the road. He said thiS~strip of land could
be the Highway Department's right-of-way. He does not think this is crucial,
but he had hoped that Mr. Wood might be able to explain this strip of land.
Mr. St. 3ohn added that he thinks the entire parcel, including the strip of
land, is a likely candidate for a variance from the Board'iof Zoning Appeals
because it does not do the lot any good to cut off a stri? on the other side
of the road to constitute two acres. Without that variance, however, the
creation of this lot by this plat not only violates the SUbdivision Ordinance,
but also the Zoning Ordinance, because without a variance~a lot has been
created that is less than the minimum size ....
Mr. Wood explained that the dotted line on the map Was the old Route 745.
He said when the four-laning was done on Route 29 South, ~he Highway Depart-
ment condemned the area shown on the plat by a solid linei~ Mr. Wood stated,
in his opinion, that when the Highway Department condemne~ that piece of land,
it caused the land to be subdivided because the right-of-Way was taken away.
He said the land was deeded and recorded, and the Souther~ Railroad followed
the same procedure as the Highway Department. He noted t~at there is a parcel
of land on the other side of the road that was handled in[the same manner. He
pointed out that the property between the railroad track ~nd Route 29 was the
only piece of property that was condemned. He said the r~mainder of Route 745
has never been deeded to the Highway Department.
Mr. Lindstrom asked Mr. Wood if he had bought this p~operty after all of
the Highway Department's negotiations had taken place. Mr. Wood answered,
"yes," and said he bought the land that was left after that time, also. He
pointed out that the deed states that there is 74.86 acre~, but no one knows
what it ~ncludes. He sa~d that he bought the residue, Gl~co Mills owns a
portion of it, and a piece of property on the west side o~ Route 29 was also
included in the parcel. He thinks that someone arbitrari}y drew a line on the
plat indicating ownership.
Mr. St. John said he feels the ordinance has been violated until a
variance is issued. He said if this property is treated ~s a pre-existing
separate parcel from the rest of the tax map, then the remainder on the other
side of the~ road still has five development rights. He w~nt on to say,
however, that if this piece of land is treated as a part gf one parcel, then
one of the five development rights has been used. He added that all of the
documentation has treated this area as one parcel as well~s the tax office
and the deed registry, up until the time of this conveyanqe. This is the
basis for the request to vacate the subdivisiOn. ~
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Mr. Home said what is before the Board is simply the vacation of the
plat that was recorded on January 25, 1988. Mr. St. John agreed, but he said
he was giving the Board members background information that could be used in
their decision as to whether the plat should be vacated.
Mr. Bowie called attention to the third paragraph of the proposed ordi-
nance to vacate the plat which he said was incorrect. Mr. St. John agreed,
and said he recommended a change in this paragraph which would then read:
" . the said Plat was not approved for recordation and constitutes viola-
tion of the County's zoning and land subdivision ordinances."
Since no one else wished to speak concerning the vacation of this plat,
Mr. Way closed the Public Hearing and placed the matter before the Board.
Motion was offered by Mr. Lindstrom and seconded by Mr. Bain to adopt the
following ordinance to vacate a certain plat of a portion of Tax Map 88,
Parcel 26 (portion of) for Woodco, Inc, and to correct the language in the
ordinance as stated by the County Attorney. Roll was called and the motion
carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Mess=s. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
AN ORDINANCE TO VACATE A CERTAIN P~LAT OF A PORTION
OF PARCEL 26, ALBEMARLE COUNTY T~AX MAP 88; THIS
PROPERTY IS SHOWN ON A PLAT RECOPIED IN THE CLERK'S
OFFICE OF THE CIRCUIT COURT OF ALBEMARLE COUNTY IN
DEED BOOK 977 , PAGE!.~211
WHEREAS, a certain lot or parcel of land lying in Albemarle
County has been heretofore subdivided i~to two lots, the plat of
which is of record in the Clerk's office~ of the Circuit Court of
Albemarle County at Deed Book 977, pagei~211 (the "Plat"); and
WHEREAS, it appears that the subdiviided 1.47-acre parcel as
shown on said Plat has been conveyed by~. E. Wood and Ann T. Wood
to Woodco, Inc., by deed dated January 9~, 1988, recorded in said
Clerk's office at Deed Book 977, page 2!0; and
WHEREAS, the Board has received evidence that the said Plat was
not approved for recordation and constitutes violation of the
County's zoning and land subdivision ord~inances; and
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors ~f Albemarle County has
determined, pursuant to Virginia Code Section 15.1-482(b), that said
Plat should be vacated in order to protect the public health, safety
and welfare;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT ORDAINED by ~he Board of Supervisors of
Albemarle County, Virginia as follows:
1. That the subdivision of land shown on the Plat recorded in
said Clerk's office in Deed Book 977, page 211, be, and the same
hereby is, vacated; ~
2. That the vacation set forth in Section 1 of this ordinance
shall in no way vacate any other street,~road, right-of-way or lot
duly platted and recorded;
3. That the Clerk of the Board shall cause a certified copy
hereof to be recorded in the said Clerk's office to be indexed in
the name of Woodco, Inc.
4. That this ordinance shall be effective upon adoption.
Agenda Item No. 13. Public Hearing: Ex~end Albemarle County Service
Authority service area boundaries for water only to Tax Map 59, Parcels 16A
and 16B. (Advertised in the Daily Progress o~ September 27 and October 4,
1988.)
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Mr. Home said that since the Board discussed this request last month,
the staff has researched further, the background concerning the parcels in
question. The apartment units located on parcel 16A are being treated as
nonconforming uses by the Zoning Administrator. Mr. Martin stated that
normally four to five residents are in the apartment building at any one time
although there are eleven independent units. Staff has not been able to
obtain any direct flow data from the well that serves the apartment units.
The units are essentially single room occupancy type units, therefore, utilize
much less water per unit than a traditional dwelling.
In the opinion of staff, extension of water to existing structures only
on parcel 16B in order to correct a demonstrated deficiency in the on-site
water system would be in compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. Such service
to nonconforming commercial uses would not, in the opinion of staff, be in
compliance with the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Home said Mr. J. W. Brent,
Executive Director of the Albemarle County Service Authority, is present to
speak about the costs of extending water to the property~
Mr. Brent said the Service Authority Board of Directors has considered
this matter in preliminary detail and has not taken a position as to whether
this property should be included in the service area of the Service Authority.
He said the Board has cautioned that the Authority has not earmarked funds for
the extension of the water main which would be required to serve this prop-
erty. He said approximately three-tenths of a mile.would~ be involved, and it
would cost approximately $50,000 to serve one connection, He added that the
Service Authority is self-supporting and would find it q~ite difficult to
justify such an extension if revenue is to be recovered ~rom one dwelling.
However, he said, the Authority has not ruled out such a~extension, but
simply cautions that should this be included in the servi~e area, the Author-
ity may not be in a position to make this extension. '~
Mr. Bowie asked if it would help to have informatio~ on the economic
feasibility of the apartments. Mr. Brent replied that economic information
would help, but it probably would still not be feasible, i! He said he believes
the information will show that bedrooms are occupied by due individual and
that there are probably no cooking facilities at the apaf~ments which would
mean that there will not be much revenue to be generated.i'i Even if the house
and all the other facilities in that area were included,(~e doubts they would
support the extension.
Mrs. Martin spoke next to the Board and said her lea%er explains the
problems she is experiencing with the water supply. She ?~aid she has a three
bedroom, two bath home on Route 250 West and has drilled~gi~hree wells with no
success. She noted that she also has an I1 unit, efficiency apartment complex
which has a well system sufficient only to supply the apz~tments with water.
She explained that her house was once hooked up to that w~] 11, and it could not
supply the 11 units and the house for any length of time ~ithout the water
becoming muddy and cloudy. She said she understood at la]~t month's meeting
that there would not be a great problem with getting wate~ to the house, if
the matter was approved during the public hearing, but that hookups to the
apartments would be unlikely. She remarked that the reasons given were that
the apartments were not full at the time and would not warrant hookups because
they were not generating enough revenue. She said that last month, there were
only six apartments occupied. Now all of the units are f~ll. She noted that
she tries to keep the apartments occupied in order to mak~ payments, pay the
electricity bills, oil bills, and trash collection. She ~aid this is the only
way she has to pay those bills. She pointed out that the?itemporary drops in
occupancy are not by choice, but it is an occupational hazard of renting. She
went on to say that on Friday, October 7, 1988, Mr. Horne!iicalled to see if she
had received a letter from Mr. Brent, and it had not been?ireceived. She said
Mr. Home indicated that hookup to one home would not gengrate enough revenue
and would not be economically feasible for the Albemarle ~ounty Service
Authority to pay for it. She said that Mr. I{orne explained that the cost to
her and her husband would be approximately $50,000. She ~dded that Mr. }Iorne
then asked if she and her husband still wanted to go through with the public
hearing after she told him that they could not afford to ~ay the $50,000 for
the water extension. She said they did want to have the ~blic hearing, and
she pointed out that the apartments are a source of incom ~for her and her
husband, and if half of the apartments are closed, as Mr. i~orne suggested, it
would cut the income of the apartments in half and not le~e them enough cash
October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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617
to meet the mortgage payment, electric bills, oil bills or cost of repairs.
When she talked with Mr. Brent on Monday, she was told that the water level in
the area is dropping each year and that in the next few years, the Authority
hopes that funds will be available to extend the water for a mile to connect
to the existing lines near the Boar's Head Inn.
In conclusion, Mrs. Martin stated that to close half of her apartments
would mean more of a disaster than has already been endured. She cormmented
that if worse comes to worse, she and her husband have no choice but to close
their house and rent another dwelling and continue to wait until water is
piped to the existing main near the Boar's Head Inn. In the meantime, she
said she and her husband would have to pray that the water level does not
decrease enough to endanger the well supply in the apartments which would be
financial ruin for the Martins. She thanked the Board for its time.
Mr. Way closed the public hearing since_there was no one else at the
meeting who wished to speak.
Mr. Bowie commented that the Board does not determine how the water will
get to its destination. The Board only gives the Service Authority the
authority to serve certain areas. He noted Ghat Mr. Brent has stated that the
Authority does not have the money to run the lines and the applicant cannot
afford to do it, so there seems to be no money available for this project. He
said he would not have any problem includingi~ the apartments in the extension
of the water service, but he does not know what purpose it would ultimately
serve, ii!
Mr. Bain stated that he concurs with tt~ staff's recommendation relative
to the nonconforming use of the apartments. ~In this situation, he said, the
Board is facing a request for the extension 9f water in something other than
situations to single-family, existing structures in rural areas.
He
emergency
mentioned that the Board does not control pu~ting__,= in the water lines.
Mr. Lindstrom said he thinks the staff'~ recommendation is consistent
with County policy. .
Motion was offered by Mr. Lindstrom and~iseconded by Mr. Bain to extend
the Albemarle County Service Authority servide area boundaries for water only
to the existing structure on Tax Map 59, ParCel 16B. Roll was called and the
motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Mess~s. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
Agenda Item No. 14. Appropriation Request: School Division. Motion was
made by Mr. Bain and seconded by Mr. Bowie t~ approve the appropriation
requests as outlined in a memorandum from MrJ Overstreet dated September 26,
1988, and set out below: i~
1. Grant for Drop-out Prevention Proje~ t. Albemarle County has
received a grant from the State for the 1988-89 school year of
$16,771 to help reduce the number of sc~ ool drop outs. Funds are
designated for stipends for teachers imolved in extra planning and
training, staff development expenses, a~d for a part-time teacher
assigned to Murray Education Center. Iq. is requested that the funds
be appropriated as a grant for a specia~ project. The budget is as
follows:
Fiscal Year: 1988-89
Fund: Grant
Purpose: Appropriation of funds f~0m Drop-Out Prevention
Grant.
Expenditure
Cost Center/Category
1200963365100135
1200963365100203
1200963365200100
1200963365200500
Descriptio~ Amount
Comp-Teacher Salaries $10,920
Staff Dev. St~ipends 972
FICA ~ 893
Health Insurance 447
618
1200963365301200
1200963365550400
1200963365580500
Revenue
2200924000240500
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Other Contracted Services 650
Travel-Out of County 889
Staff Development 2~000
TOTAL $16,771
Description Amount
Drop-out Prevention Grant $16,771
2. State Appropriation for Family Life Curriculum Development.
Albemarle County has received an appropriation of $29,106 from the
state to assist in the development and implementation of the State
mandated family life curriculum. The majority of the funding will
be for staff development and curriculum development stipends for
elementary teachers, and middle and high school health teachers. It
is requested that the funds be received from the State and the
budget amended to add the expenses shown below:
Fiscal Year: 1988-89
Fund: School
Purpose: State Funding of Family Life Curriculum Develop-
ment
Expenditure
Cost Center/Category
1200060149100203
1200060149100204
1200060149200100
1200060149300206
1200060149300601
1200060149520100
1200060149540104
1200060149541100
1200060149550400
1200060149580500
1200060149580900
Description
Staff Dev. Stipend
Curriculum Development
FICA
Consulting Services
Printing/Copy Services
Postal Services
Copy Supplies
Books/Subscriptions
Educational Travel
Staff Development
Miscellaneous Exp.
TOTAL
Amount
$12,15o
4,320
1,237
1,000
1,000
100
1,000
500
3,000
2,000
2,799
$29,106
Revenue Description Amount
2200024000240216 Family Life Education $29,106
3. Regional Special Education Program. A change in the implementa-
tion of Virginia Department of Education regulation~ for special
education has resulted in the need for changing the ~method for
seeking State reimbursements for program costs. In the future,
emotionally disturbed and learning disabled students=.:may no longer
be served in the same classroom. Having separate classrooms for
these students will also qualify the programs for funding through
the regional special education program. The State's"rate of reim-
bursement for regional programs is higher than the rate reflected in
the current budget. It is requested that both the dperating and ED
program budgets be amended.
Fiscal Year: 1988-89
Fund: Ragged Mountain
Purpose: Revisions to FY 88/89 operating budge~ for
Special Education program '~
Expenditure
Cost Center/Category
1200563370100125
1200563370100135
1200563370100140
1200563370100141
1200563370100142
1200563370100203
1200563370100310
1200563370100312
1200563370200100
1200563370200200
Description
Comp-Visiting Teachers
Comp-Teachers
Comp-Supervisory/Clerical
Comp-Para-Professional
Comp-Custodial Staff
Stipends-Staff Dev.
Comp-Sub Teachers
Comp-Sub Aides
FICA-Employer Share
VSRS-Employer Share
Amount
($25,ooo)
97,482
(6,500)
1,824
(3,640)
(500)
1,200
1,200
5,636
7,265
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619
1200563370200500
1200563370200600
1200563370200700
1200563370201100
1200563370201500
1200563370300400
1200563370300403
1200563370300601
1200563370301200
1200563370301400
1200563370510100
1200563370520100
1200563370520300
1200563370520301
1200563370540100
1200563370540400
1200563370541100
1200563370541200
1200563370541300
1200563370550100
1200563370580500
120056'3370580900
1200563370800200
Health Ins-Employer Share 4,660
Life Ins-Employer Share 652
Dental Ins-Employer Share 960
Workman's Comp. 1,033
Salary Reserve-Bonus (458)
Repair/Maint-Office Equip (510)
Repair/Maint~Bldg & Equip (500)
Printing & Copy Services (230)
Contract Serv-Other 56,641
Contract Ser~-Refuse (405)
Electrical Services (5,820)
Postal Service (100)
Telephone Service (900)
Telephone Service-Long Dist. (110)
Office Supplies
Medical/Lab Supplies
Books & SubsCriptions
Education/Re~. Supplies
Other Operating Supplies
Travel-Routine Mileage
Staff Dev. Expense
Other Misc. Expenses
Lease of Buildings
TOTAL ~
Revenue Des cr ipt i~n
2200518000189904 Ragged Mtn. ~evenue
Fiscal Year: 1988-89
Fund: School
(450)
(75)
(600)
(450)
(1,475)
(1,460)
2,800
(7,488)
12~000
$136,682
Amount
$136,682
Purpose:
special education program.
Revisions to FY 88/89 ope
Expenditure
Cost Genter/Category
120006100000100135
12000600000100141
12000600000200100
120006100000200200
12000600000200500
12000600000200600
120006100000200700
1200060150300218
1200060150999999
Revenue
220001:5000150201
2200019000190104
2200019000190106
2200019000190108
2200024000240202
2200024000240207
2200024000240208
2200024000240209
2200024000240211
2200024000240213
2200024000240219
2200024000240220
=rating budget for
Descriptiqn
Comp-Teacher Salaries
Comp-Para Pr( :.
FICA
VSRS
Health Insur. ncc
Life Insuran~ e
Dental Insurance
Pupil Tuitio4
Contingency ~
TOTAL ~
DescriptiOn
Property Rent ~1
VSRS Recover~
FICA Recover~
Group Life Re :every
Basic Aid
Duty Free Lunch
Gifted & Tale ~ted
Special Ed. (iSOQ)
Special Ed. (C~ teg. )
Voc. Ed. (SOQi)
Transportation
Remedial Education
TOTAL ~
Amount
($192,400)
(58,264)
(18,825)
(38,928)
(12,48o)
(2,557)
(960)
476,862
70,061
$222,509
Amount
$ 12,ooo
(9,120)
(6,441)
(248)
(52,7o2)
(156)
(586)
(4,121)
286,117
(976)
(781)
(477)
$222,509
Roll was called on the foregoing motion ~hich was carried by the follow-
ing recorded vote: !~
AYES:
NAYS:
Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, MessrS. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
None.
.!
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October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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Mr. Agnor called to the Board's attention an appropriation request from
the school system for a water tank at Stone-Robinson Elementary School. The
tank is to provide water to the sprinkler system as requested by the State
Fire Code. He said there are sprinkler heads in what are called "unattended
areas." He also said the water supply for the sprinkle system has been a
subject of discussion because the existing well serves domestic needs and will
not be sufficient to serve the flow requirements for the sprinkler heads. He
said that $48,000 is the amount requested by the School Board, but Mr.
Overstreet has indicated to him that this is a maximum amount requested, and
the amount may actually be less. Mr. Agnor remarked that the school system
needs authorization to proceed with the water tank because study is still
being done on the design requirement of the quantity of water.
Mr. Bowie asked what the source of the money will be. Mr. Agnor answered
that there are no funds in the Capital Fund Balance, so the money would have
to come from the General Fund Balance.
Mr. Bowie asked if there was money in the Capital Improvements Budget
which is for certain purposes, but has not actually been~ 'spent. Mr. Agnor
replied, "yes." Mr. Bowie suggested that. the school system go ahead with its
plans for designing and building the water tank, within Hhe budget, but he
also suggested that no more money be appropriated at thi~ time. Mr. Agnor
responded that the school system cannot go ahead with it~! plans because the
allocations in the Capital Improvements Budget are by project. He explained
that there is money that has not been spent in some of t~ other projects, but
not in the Stone-Robinson project, because it is alreadylihontracted. He
reiterated that there are no funds remaining to take care! of this water
problem and that it is necessary for the Board to give a6thorization to
transfer the funds from another project.
Mr. Bowie said he has no problem with transferring ~he money from another
project. He cannot understand, however, why more money Should be appropriated
at this time. Mr. Agnor answered that the school system~gannot encumber an
account without an appropriation, and the Board has to appropriate funds for
this project. He pointed out, again, that the money in the Capital Improve-
ments Budget is for specific projects.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the Board could appropriate S~me of the five
percent contingency in the Capital Improvements Budget for this particular
i~em. Mr. Agnor said there is no five percent contingency for 1988-89. He
said the five percent contingency will start in 1989-90.
Mr. Perkins asked if the water tank was removed from!!the Broadus Wood
School project. Mr. Agnor answered, "yes." Mr. Perkins asked why. Mr. Agnor
responded that the water tank was above-ground and considered an "unattractive
nuisance". Secondly, Mr. Agnor said, the Broadus Wood wa~er tank was to be
used for fighting fires in the Earlysville area instead o~ having a hydrant at
the Airport. He said school officials were concerned about fire trucks coming
to the tank at the school during the daylight hours and f%lling up trucks and
relaying water to the scene of the fire. He said this ta~k was abandoned in
favor of a fire alarm system in the school. He mentioned~ilthat an interpreta-
tion of the Fire Code was requested from Richmond and Chicago and it was found
that the Fire Code was misinterpreted at Broadus Wood, bu~ the fire alarm
system had already been installed. I~
Mr. Perkins inquired about additional wells at Broad, s Wood and asked if
the well could be tapped into to get sufficient water for~the sprinkler heads.
Mr. Papenfuse responded that the sprinkler heads come off!i~of the domestic
water service, and he would not want to tie a contaminate~ well into the
domestic water service. He said a complete sprinkler system would have to be
re-piped iiI
Mr. Perkins asked mf another well could be drilled, i{Mr. Papenfuse
answered that several wells were drilled before the new w~ll was found on the
Stone-Robinson property. He explained that the new well is at the lower end
of the property, and two wells were drilled at the upper ~d that failed.
Mr. Bamn recalled that certamn amounts of money were~put into this year s
budget for Crozet and Southside Elementary School. He su~[~ested that half of
the appropriation be taken from each of those projects fox, the time being and
October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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621
that a transfer be made to the Stone,Robinson water tank project. Mr. Bowie
agreed with Mr. Bain and said this is what he would like to see done. He said
he could not see appropriating money at the beginning of the fiscal year
before it is even known how much will be needed for other projects.
Motion was offered by Mr. Bain and seconded by Mr. Bowie to approve the
appropriation request of $48,000 for a water tank at Stone Robinson Elementary
School to be funded with $24,000 transferred from the Crozet School project
and $24,000 transferred from the new Southside School project, as set out
below:
Fiscal Year:
Fund:
1988-89
Capital Improvements Program
Expenditure
Cost Center/Categor7
1900060623999999
1900060641999999
1900060632701007
Description Amount
Crozet School ($24,000)
Southside School (24,000)
Stone Robinson-
Water Tank 48~000
TOTAL $ -0-
Roll was called and the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
Mr. Perkins asked how long it has been ~lnce the contaminated well has
been tested. Mr. Papenfuse answered probabl~ a couple of years.
Mr. Perkins wondered if the well could ~e tested again to see if the
water is still showing contamination. Mr. Papenfuse replied that the amount
of flow for each sprinkler is what has to be~onsidered.
Mr. Bowie said he believes the pressure imust be considered as well as
quantity of water. Mr. Papenfuse explained further that booster pumps would
have to be put on the support tank. He mentioned that another requirement, in
addition to the operation of the sprinkler h~ads, is that the water supply
must also fulfill a 100 percent domestic demand simultaneously with the
operation of the sprinkler heads. He said i~i is not possible to pull this
much water from the wells because it would d~in them.
Mr. Agnor said he has asked questions ab'gut the quantity of water needed
and has been told there should be enough to ~ilow a minimum flow of
water
to
the fixtures, because if there is a broken pipe~ in the building, and the
sprinkler heads are demanding water, it is assumed that all of the supply
lines to the bathroom fixtures are operating at some flow and pressure. He
said this is part of the calculation required by the Code.
Mr. Bowie said when the school was desigt
that the water supply would not handle the sp!
for other schools, that will not be hooked up
tank installation included in future bids. Mi
two large school projects are already on publ
renovation projects are small enough that the'
requirements.
Agenda Item No. 15 Approval of State Pll
Equipment - School Division.
Mr. Agnor said Governor Baliles created~
Technology Initiative to establish the electr~
The General Assembly authorized the State Boa~
~ed, it should have been expected
~inkler system. He asked if bids
to public water, will have water
Papenfuse answered that the
c water and the two smaller
will not have to meet the same
.n for Purchasing Technological
he Governor's Educational
nic classroom by July 1, 1990.
d of Education to provide an
equipment purchasing and financing program fo~ school divisions to use in
acquiring equipment for this program. The State Board of Education has
developed a five year bond program through the Virginia Public School Author-
ity (VPSA), and requested school boards and g~verning bodies to commit to
participate in the Governor's initiative.
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The State Department of Education has distributed to school divisions a
subsidized hardware (equipment) allocation. Albemarle's allocation is
$100,200. The State will purchase the equipment and make it available to
local school divisions. The VPSA will issue bonds and use the proceeds to
purchase local bonds. Local governing bodies will hold public hearings on
local bonds and will issue five year general obligation bonds in the amount of
the equipment purchase. These local bonds will be sold to the VPSA.
The General Assembly has appropriated sufficient funds to pay debt
service costs for each locality through June 30, 1990. Debt service is
anticipated to begin in October, 1989. In future years, this debt service
subsidy will be subject to General Assembly appropriation, and if not appro-
priated, the local government will be obligated to pay the debt service, since
it originates from the issuance of local general obligation bonds. The Board
of Supervisors is being requested to adopt a resolution to enter into an
agreement to participate in this program.
Mr. Lindstrom said it is his understanding that the County will be
getting this subsidy to purchase technological equipment ~in the classrooms.
Mr. Agnor said that after June 30, 1990, the debt service subsidy will be
subject to future General Assembly appropriations. He said that, if the
General Assembly does not appropriate more money in futura years, the local
government will be obligated to pay the debt service, since it originates from
the issuance of local general obligation bonds.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the money will come from the County's general
revenues to pay for these bonds. Mr. Agnor answered, "yes."
Mr. Lindstrom asked if this equipment is part of a ~Ong-range local plan.
Mr. Overstreet explained that a majority of expenditures would be for comput-
ers and computer hardware for the middle schools and targeted for the sixth
grade. He said this is an ongoing objective of the County's, and he thinks
that the County will benefit. He said some of the money will be for electron-
ic classrooms for the two high schools. This money will'be used to put in
satellite dishes to be used mainly for advanced AP type eiasses. He repeated
that he believes the State will be paying for something ~at the County would
have to do anyway.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if this money will be coming to.i~he County for this
fiscal year. Mr. Overstreet replied that the State has ihdicated that it
would take approximately six months to get the money, bu~the County could
purchase the equipment and apply to the State for reimbursement.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the money would be saved in ~is year's budget or
in next year's budget. Mr. Overstreet replied that the e~penditure is not in
this year's budget, and Mr. Agnor explained that this money will be an addi-
tional expenditure.
Mr. Bain asked if all of the equipment would be purchased at one time.
Mr. Papenfuse answered that it would all be purchased at the same time. He
added that the bills would not come to the County directly, because equipment
would be purchased out of the VPSA funds. He said the only bill that the
County would get would be the five yearly installment pa~ent notices.
Mr. Lindstrom wanted to know if this will reduce theiCounty's obligation
for a program that has already been approved by the School Board. Mr.
Overstreet answered, "no." He said it would fulfill someiiof the instructional
objectives priorities, along with others that had been taken from the budget
for the next few years because of other more pressing needs.
In answer to a question by Mr. Bowie, Mr. Overstreetistated that this
program would be a part of the Computer Committee's Five ~ear Plan, but he is
unsure which year this specific equipment would have been targeted for pur-
chase.
Mr. Lindstrom commented that, given the nature of this subsidy, he would
have no trouble approving it if the program were a part oJ an established
program, and it would reduce local costs. He is not sure/ however, that the
the County Would be interested in getting involved in thi~ program, if it were
not for the opportunity that has been presented.
October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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623
Mr. Overstreet remarked that the State will be requiring this program
soon, and when the State requires something to be done, it usually does not
give the County any money to do it. He said he is confused because the State
has a technical equipment program that it is promoting, but not requiring, and
yet the State is offering to pay for it. He said there is no doubt in his
mind that the electronic classrooms for the high school, and particularly the
middle school computer programs aimed specifically at sixth graders, is
something that is already taking place in the County, and it is hoped that a
lot more of it can be done in the future. He said he cannot say for certain
that a program such as this one will actually happen soonin the County,
because some of the objectives get realignedlevery year, depending on the
outcome of the priorities that are established in the budget. This program,
however, is in the Computer Committee's FivelYear Plan.
Mr. Bowie said he would like to see the Computer Committee's Five Year
Plan and would like to know if taking advantage ofthe State's proposal will
reduce the money that the County will spend.
Mr. St. John asked if the equipment could be bought out of general
revenue. He also said he did not know that this type of thing could be done
without a referendum, unless it involved a Literary Fund Loan. Mr. Agnor
responded that the information sent to the school system indicated that there
would not have to be a referendum because th~ bonds would be sold to VPSA.
Mr. Bowie commented that $100,000 compared to the size of the School
Board's budget is really not much, if the equipment is needed badly. He said
he would be happy to discuss the budget withi~the School Board, and perhaps
money could be found. However, he said, to
hearings for $100,000, which adds up to $20,
amount of work, because this amount could be
He said he is not voting against the advance~
thinks that this is the most complicated way
money that he has ever seen.
Mr. Overstreet replied that this progra~
nor's Commission. The General Assembly did ~
Commission did not want to give it up. He s~
o into the bond market and public
00 a year, seems like an unusual
absorbed in the County's budget.
classroom and technology, but he
of getting a small amount of
was an objective of the Gover-
ot fund the program, but the
id the program is complex and
unusual, but even the legal costs are covered by the State, and there will be
no co, st to the County unless in future sessions of the General Assembly, funds
ar~a~propriated. He said there will be suc~ a wide level of participation
ac~rdss the State that he cannot imagine that ~ithis will happen. He said if the
County chooses not to participate, there is ~lready a certain amount of
funding established, so Albemarle's money wo~ld'~ go to other localities that
are participating.
Mr. Way said if the Board approves the ~rogram, then even though this
funding situation is not something the Board ~!ls happy about, it is a way to
get assistance from the State. As long as the program is something that the
school system wants and needs, he thinks this is the best way to handle it.
Mr. Overstreet said he wished the State had jlhst decided to give local alloca-
tions and have them as a part of the general 'budget. He said the money is
available, and the County can participate in ~he program or not. He added
that the School Board is willing to go along iwith the program, if the Supervi-
sors are willing to give the authorization.
Mrs. Cooke said if the program is a lon~range plan of the School Board,
she thinks the County should take advantage ~f the funds which are available.
She said the money will have to come from sons,where at some point, and she
thinks the program is necessary to the schooli~' system whenever it is started.
Mr. Lindstrom said he would feel better ~about the program, if it were
part of a formally approved, detailed, long-range program of the County's,
that had been done independently of any incentive created by the State. If
this were the case, he said, he would be will!~ng to commit funds to this
program locally regardless of whether there w~s a subsidy, but he has a
reservation about the way this program is being handled by the State.
Mr. Bain agreed with Mr. Lindstrom concening the way that things are
handled by the State, but he believes that the State will have to go ahead
with the program, since it is being provided across the State. He would like
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to support the request, assuming that it can be done legally and constitution-
ally.
Mr. Bowie remarked that he thinks this is a ridiculous way of handling
this situation. He said the State is providing money to do something it wants
the localities to do, but the State never provides enough money. He asked if
the Board can find out if this way of handling bonds is legal.
Mr. Bain said evidently the Board has until November 1, 1988, to make a
decision on the program. He suggested that information on the legality be
given to the Board before that date, as well as the computer program plans
from the Computer Committee and the School Board.
Mr. St. John said the Board does not have anything to lose if the program
is not legal due to lack of the bond referendum. If it is illegal, the County
could not be made to repay the bonds.
Motion was then offered by Mr. Perkins and seconded by Mr. Bain to adopt
the following resolution, and to request further information as to whether
this is legal or not; the information is to be provided by October 14, 1988,
so the Board can reach a decision by November 1, 1988. Roll was called and
the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
WHEREAS the Albemarle County Board of Supervisors recognizes
the need to expand learning experiences now availabl~ through
technology to students in the Albemarle County Scho~i Division, and
WHEREAS the Albemarle County School Board is e~igible for
approximately $102,000 in subsidized technological ~quipment through
the Governor's Educational Technology Initiative Prqcurement and
Financing Program, and ~
WHEREAS the Governor's Educational Technology Initiative
Procurement and Financing Program provides a vehicle~for the pur-
chase and financing of microcomputers, satellite and associated
equipment at a substantial savings to participating'iocalities, and
WHEREAS the Albemarle County School Board has requested the
approval of the Albemarle County Board of Superviso=M to participate
in this program; it
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, by the Albemarl~-iCounty Board of
Supervisors that it does hereby authorize the Count~iExecutive to
sign the Memorandum of Agreement between the County !~nd the Depart-
ment of Education authorizing participation in the ~G~vernor's
Educational Technology Initiative Procurement and Financing Program
for the purchase and financing of approximately $10Z~i000 of subsidy
eligible equipment, and ~i
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the County ExecutiVe is hereby
authorized to transmit the Letter of Agreement to the Department of
Education on behalf of this Board.
Agenda Item No. 16. Reclassification of Assistant Registrar. Mr. Agnor
said the Registrar requested a review of the classification of the Assistant
Registrar position for two reasons: 1) the function of the Registrar has
changed. The Registrar is out of the office often which makes daily manage-
ment of the office and supervision of part-time office workers the responsi-
bility of the Registrar's assistant, and 2) new operating!iprocedures of the
State Board of Elections changed the entire operation to a computerized system
directly linked with Richmond, which assigned the Assista~
responsibility for primary office management of the system
not presently recognized in the job description. Personn.
request and recommended that the position be reclassified
Range 11, effective with the October payroll. The additi~
benefit costs for the remainder of the fiscal year will bE
t Registrar the
. This function is
1 staff reviewed the
from Range 9 to
nal salary and
absorbed in the
October 12, 1988 (Regular Day Meeting)
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625
Registrar's existing budget, if possible. Otherwise, a request for additional
funds will be made in the last quarter of the fiscal year.
Motion was offered by Mr. Bain and seconded by Mr. Bowie to reclassify
the Assistant Registrar position effective this month. Roll was called and
the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
Not Docketed: At 12:58 P.M., Mr. Lindstrom offered motion to adjourn
into Executive Session to discuss personnel and legal matters. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Bain. Roll was called and the motion carried by the following
recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
The Board reconvened into an open session at 2:08 P.M. Mr. Way said the
Board would take up Agenda Item 22 at this time.
Agenda Item No. 22. Discussion: Risk Factors for Forestry Land Use.
Mr. Perkins distributed a brief history ~of land use taxation for forestry
land to the Board. He said that until this time there has been a risk factor
of one and one-half percent used in Albemarle County for forest land. The new
assessment rates by the Department of Forestry do not include a risk factor,
but the Department is willing to put in the risk factor, if the Director of
Finance so requests. He suggested that the Board direct the Director of
Finance to ask for this one and one-half risk factor to be included in forest
land use taxation.
Mr. Bruce Hogue spoke next and pointed out that the County is now in a
dry cycle that increases the risk factor. H~ mentioned the gypsy moth problem
and said this could really be bad for hardwoo~d trees. If it were not for the
forest areas in the County, he said, the runoff would be terrible when it
rains and would imperil the watershed. He said forested areas release mois-
ture as the year goes on and this helps keep ii. the streams alive. He thinks
everything should be done to help the landow~ers who have forest land. He
said the farmers have not enjoyed the same eqbnomy as people in some other
occupations have, so he would like to see the.~ County keep the risk factor that
it has had over the past 12 years. He said ~ is sure the Board realizes the
importance of his request. ~
Mr. Melvin Breeden, Director of Finance,i~i said he does not have a problem
with this approach. He noted that forestry ~Alues, in the past, have been
used with the risk factor included. He addec~ii~ that even though the State has
changed its policy, he thinks there is probably more risk now than in prior
years because of the gypsy moths. He pointe~ii out that based on last year's
numbers, if the risk factor were included, it"~would reduce the value by
approximately 12 percent.
Mr. Bain asked about the State Land EvalUation Advisory Committee (SLEAC)
values. Mr. Breeden answered that several years ago they were increasing, but
the new values for 1989 are showing some decreases. Mr. Bain asked about the
values for horticultural land. Mr. Breeden r~plied that those values are
decreasing approximately 15 to 20 percent for~next year compared to the
current year. Mr. Bain said with the 15 to 2(
sessment values, there should still not be re~
dollars being paid by the farmer. Mr. Breede
will make a significant difference because th
land use value no matter what the fair market
there is a percentage basis involved, he does
a decrease in the dollars he will pay. Mr. B~
there would not be an increase in dollars pai~
for land not qualifying under land use rose mc
use. He noted that those values under land us
land.
; percent increase in the reas-
~1 difference in the actual
responded that the risk factor
farmer will be paying on the
value is. Mr. Bain said since
not see how the farmer will have
eeden replied that the only way
would be if the building values
re than the values under land
e would go down for agricultural
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Mr. Lindstrom pointed out that the numbers produced by SLEAC are not
absolute values, but they are used, regardless of the local assessment. Mr.
Breeden said that is correct. He said there has not been much work done in
trying to set local values, because he firmly believes that the values put out
by SLEAC are the best. He said the County would have to use the same data as
SLEAC to set values. He said unless there is some difference in philosophy,
he does not see how the local figures could be supported.
Mr. Perkins commented that he believes the action that the Farm Bureau
took in going to Richmond and talking to the SLEAC Co~mnittee influenced the
SLEAC Conm~ittee to lower the values that were raised so much a year ago. He
said it still puzzles him that all the values in all the counties in the State
differ for agricultural or forestal land. He gave an example that Class II
land values are rated at $900 in Albemarle, $400 in Goochland County and $1250
in Rockbridge County. He said the values of forestry land are different
throughout each county, also. He noted that forestry products are sold more
on a regional basis and said that other markets besides county markets have to
be considered. He added that the sawmills in Albemarle get logs from as far
away as 100 miles. He thinks that Class II land should have the same value
within a given geographic area. Mr. Breeden answered that one thing to
consider is the type of forestry such as pine or hardwoods. Mr. Perkins
responded that Albemarle County is classified as a hardwOod county.
Mr. Agnor pointed out that every two years, SLEAC figures are given to
the Board before reassessment notices are sent out. He said the figures just
arrived this week, and they were to have been presented at the November
meeting. ~
Mr. Lindstrom asked what classification is used for!ilopen space. Mr.
Breeden responded that open space is a separate category~iof land use which
basically applies to park areas, golf courses and the li~e. He said that
Albemarle County has had very little activity in that category primarily
because the land use values are as high or higher than the fair market values
in most cases. ~
Motion was then offered by Mr. Lindstrom and seconded by Mr. Perkins that
the Director of Finance request the risk factor of one a~d one-half percent be
added to the local value for forestry land. Roll was ca,led and the motion
carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None. ~
Agenda Item No. 17. Discussion: Legislative Liaiso~n.
Mr. 'Agnor summarized a memo he had written to the Bolerd of Supervisors
regarding a Legislative Liaison. He called attention to ehe fact that his
memo states that some localities engage the services of mlpart-time lobbyist
to monitor activities of the General Assembly. He said ~6 has learned that
this statement is not correct. There was an amendment to, the State Code
several years ago which prohibits lobbyists from being employed by state
agencies or local governments. He said localities can ha~e staff people
assigned to the legislature. ~
Mr. Lindstrom asked if the staff people could lobby 'St the General
Assembly. Mr. Agnor said the State Code indicates-that I~bbying can be
performed by full or part-time staff of the localities, b'~t not by someone who
contracts for that kind of service.
Mr. Bain added that, as long as this person is being paid as a County
employee, that person can lobby. Mr. Agnor said he most liaisons move
to Richmond during the General Assembly session. He that Mrs. White, on
his staff, is assigned the duty of monitoring proposed islation and then
alerting the Executive staff and the Board of items of He mentioned
that the employment of monitors or lobbyists has somel been handled by the
joining of several localities to share the expense. He sl id it has been
recommended to him that Planning District Ten staff s not be used for
this liaison purpose, because it could create an awkward ituation. In terms
of cost estimates for having someone present in Richmond the lodging cost
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would be approximately $150 a week, and the office areas available in Richmond
rent anywhere from $10 to $15 a square foot. He said it would take approxi-
mately 125 square feet for an adequate office, and he mentioned that space is
available in the VACo building. He said commuting is unsatisfactory because
sometimes the sessions run late at night. Mr. Agnor mentioned that he called
the City Manager to see how the City was handling this situation. The City
Manager said there have been discussions about having a liaison in Richmond,
and the City may want to join the County in this venture. He said he did not
call the City Manager back after he learned that sometimes planning districts
were involved in this type of activity.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if a person from the Planning District Commission
representing the City and Counties, rural and urbanizing counties, would be
able to represent all of those varying interests. Mr. Agnor said he had
already asked this question, and the response was that the Planning District
representative does not represent any of the localities in front of the
committees. The representative only keeps the localities aware of what is
happening, and the localities generally send an elected official to make an
appearance if a bill is involved. It is the responsibility of the staff
person assigned these monitoring duties to keep attuned to what the localities
are specifically interested in, and to know what effect these various bills
will have.
Mr. Agnor said a direct link/~o the computer in the General Assembly
which daily records every bill a~d-amendment as they occur. Inquiries of the
computer system cost 25 cents each. He stated that it is conceivable that the
computer system could replace the liaison se~vmce. But if the Board is
interested in getting automated connections ~or monitoring purposes with the
Legislature, he recommends that the system b~ tried for one year, in addition
to the mail service for receiving drafts of ~ills.
Mr. Bain inquired if the computer syste~
during the year about the subcommittee meeti~
a County employee would have to monitor thes~
that VACo provides this information by mail,
in advance when the hearings will be held.
not function in this capacity.
Mr. Agnor pointed out that when the Gen~
County staff is usually in the middle of the
would help get information
gs. He said it seems to him that
meetings. Mr. Agnor answered
· nd usually the County knows well
m said that the computer would
~al Assembly is in session, the
budget preparation cycle. He
said often it is hard for staff members to m~nitor the General Assembly
because of budget obligations.
Mr. Lindstrom asked when the County will
District Commission as to whether or not it
arrangement. Mr. Bowie said the Planning Di~
unless it is contacted first. He said this
about the matter. He said he would be happy
behalf of the Board and report back. He ment
get an answer from the Planning
s interested in this kind of
trict Commission will not respond
the first time he has heard
to speak to the Commission on
Loned that there are thousands of
bills each year, and some of them do not appl~ to the County at all. He
thinks there should be a way of tracking bil~s, not only while the session is
going on, but at other times as well. Often ~y the time the Session begins,
he said, the bill has already been through co~ittee and public hearings have
been held. He believes that some other meth~/should be pursued, and he would
like to know more about the computer hookup, i'I
Mr. Bain said he is also interested in 1 ~oking at the computer system.
Mr. Lindstrom remarked that if this position .s shared with other localities,
he thinks it is necessarily assumed that the ,erson retrieving the information
and passing it back to the County will assume a more passive role. He thinks
this question should be explored with the Com~ission in the context that,
while the County is exploring the possibiiity~" it has not been decided what
will actually be done. ~
Mr. Way suggested that the Planning District Commission be asked if it
would be interested in having this sort' of arrangement. Mr. Lindstrom agreed,
and said if the Planning District Commission ~s not interested, then it is not
an option. He is not sure if the County woul~ be getting its money's worth by
going this route, and thinks it might be bett~r to pay the extra money and
have somebody working for Albemarle County.
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Mr. Bain, Mr. Bowie and Mr. Lindstrom asked if the staff could find out
who is available and how much money it will cost for someone who would be
looking out specifically for Albemarle County.
Mr. Way asked if the legislators should be called and a time arranged to
meet with them in December. Mr. Agnor suggested'that the meeting with the
legislators be held in the afternoon of November 14.
Agenda Item No. 18. Discussion: Meals Tax.
Mr. Lindstrom explained that at the last meeting it was discussed as to
whether or not an information sheet could be assembled and whether members of
the Board could make themselves available to speak to groups concerning the
meals tax. Mr. Way agreed that a fact sheet should be developed.
Mr. Bowie commented that he has his own facts and will make them avail-
able for the fact sheet, if the Board chooses. Concerning making the public
aware, it seems to him that there has never been a work session, a discussion,
a public hearing or a budget hearing without reporters present, and he was
surprised to see the statement in the media that nobody knows what is included
in the County's capital plan. He said if there is a problem with knowing what
is in the Capital Improvement Program, and how it is going to be funded, then
he thinks this information should be put on a simple fact~ sheet.
Mr. Bain suggested making the fact sheet available at libraries, the
County Office Building, and to the media, so that the facts are known. He
said he does not know how important this will be to the general public, but it
will assist the citizens in understanding if there is a n~ed for a meals tax.
He thinks that the misconception is not just coming from ithe restaurant
owners; the citizens are also unaware of why the meals tax is being consid-
ered. He said that once it is explained to them, he fee~ the public will be
positive about it. He is concerned that there will be few people voting in
the referendum.
Mrs. Cooke said she thinks that it might be a good ~dea to publish at
least one announcement of the Board's position in the newspaper. Mr. Bain
said he thinks the facts need to be published as to what is included in the
~CIP. Mr. Lindstrom said he believes as long as the information is presented
as factual then it will be an appropriate expenditure of :County funds.
Mrs. Cooke said she does not know if it will do any ~good to make the
information available to the news media, but it is a news~item.
Agenda Item No. 19. Report: Computer Upgrade Committee. Mr. Bowie
presented a report from the Computer Upgrade Committee, dated September 20,
1988, which concluded with the following findings: ~
Based on the historical data, Albemarle County has greatly
increased the efficiency of operations in various departments.
The increased productivity of its employees through the Coun-
ty's computerization process has resulted in annual savings of
$362,331 (in Finance Department salary costs al~ne) to the
County.
The savings generated in personnel costs alone ~re significant.
The savings realized by not having to house numerous new
employees, with their attendant support costs, £s incalculable.
Automation has greatly improved responsiveness to citizens in
obtaining tags and licenses, assessment and tax!!~bill informa-
tion and necessary county registration forms.
The increasing delay in response time for Count'
justifies the purchase/lease of the IBM 4381 or
and the supporting package that goes with it.
The current Albemarle County Committee review s~
mation services provides no analysis of the ecor
System users
its equivalent
stem of infor-
~mic advantages
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of new applications of the computer system~ i.e., Development
Tracking System, which the Computer Upgrade Committee believes
is a weakness in the current review system.
Mr. Bain, Chairman of the Computer Upgrade Committee, said the Committee
found that it was a very worthwhile project in terms of the uses being made of
computerization. The Committee believes the County is headed in the right
direction in terms of a cost analysis. He understands this is not done very
often, and the Committee has found out subsequently that a cost benefit is
rarely done in private enterprise or on the public side. To do it even on a
partial basis, as it has been done here, is a fair amount of proof for the
County.
Mr. Lindstrom said the report is specific and the information makes him
feel better about the computer program. He thinks the public should be aware
of what the report contains, based on the study of the Finance Department,
that the number of work units per employee has increased from 5106 to 8295.
He pointed out that in 1968, if the same productivity rate per employee was
expected, there would have to be 70 employees in the Finance Department where
there are now 42. This amounts to a savingsiof approximately $360,000 in that
one department.
Mr. Perkins asked what constitutes a work unit. Mr. Bowie replied that a
work unit refers to one item of work such as ?issuing one decal or mailing one
bill. He referred the Board to Appendix A and Appendix C, which were compari-
sons of requested data at ten year intervals ifor the Finance Department and
comparisons of data over a ten year interval for the Real Estate Division. He
discussed these comparisons and said all of ~hese increases in the employees'
work loads have been handled with the implemgntation of automation. He said
no where in the analysis was the fiscal impa~t compared, but the actual fiscal
implications will have to be considered in an~ythlng that is done and should be
part of the Board's decision making process. '.~
Mr. Bain reported that the Committee hag met with outside persons to
discuss equipment and to ask specific questi~s. He said one other recommen-
dation that might be added to the applicatio~ process would be to explain how
much space is needed for new equipment. He ~aid if the storage space is
increased to give the equipment the ability
included so the Committee will know when exps
Mr. Way commented that he was pleased w~
focus on the accomplishments of the Data Proc
Mr. Agnor asked if, when the report ment
means a new application on the mainframe com~
are some usages of microcomputers in individt
Board wants reports on every application of t
o operate then this should be
nsions are necessary.
th the report, which helped him
essing Department.
.ons "a new application", that
Lter. He mentioned that there
offices, and he wonders if the
~ese smaller units. He pointed
out that the CIP is geared toward the mainfr~e, and the report is focused on
the mainframe, so he is assuming that ~he applications are associated with the
mainframe, i~
Mr. Bain said that basically is the Co~m.ttee's position. He said the
critical focus is for major applications. ~ ~. Bowie remarked that the
Committee also discussed the need to look at ~ther systems which are not in
the CIP. However, the Committee's task was look at the Capital Improve-
ments Budget, he said, and that is what it di To clarify what is meant by
the financial impact, Mr~ Bowie said, a tracking system would have to be
developed where each department would clearly~state its savings in hours and
dollars due to automation, i'
Mr. Perkins commented that people cannotIlook back with computers but
they have to go forward all the time. He thinks that sometimes people can be
overwhelmed with all of the information that ~ computer is capable of giving,
and that information not always be needed. He cautioned the Board against
this and said that he does not want to build a computer empire and think that
money is being saved. Mr. Bain said this was.~a concern of the Committee. He
said to buy equipment at the best price, the Committee would like to bring
together all the departments, including schools.
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Motion was then offered by Mr. Bain and seconded by Mr. Bowie, to accept
the report and the following recommendations. There was. no further discus-
sion. Roll was called and the motion carried by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain and Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Messrs. Lindstrom, Perkins and Way.
NAYS: None.
(Note: The recommendations are set out in full below:)
That the County Executive or his designee be charged with the
following:
1. (a) That each new application requested must provide
detailed financial information and/or justification for the new
application at the time it is developed.
(b) That each new application, once approved, receive an
annual fiscal review and be tracked in succeeding intervals with a
report to the Board of Supervisors showing anticipated fiscal impact
and actual fiscal impact.
(c) That Information Services report to the Board of
Supervisors on a semi-annual basis the proposed new applications, and
the underlying justification for them, including th~ financial
impact.
(d) That the County Executive prepare a f~rmat for a
report to the Board and the first report should be ~ue January 1,
1989.
2. For the Capital Improvements Plan budget the Board should
receive the previous fiscal year's expenditure requests, proposed
fiscal year expenditure requests from the previous y~ar's CIP, and
the current fiscal year's CIP actual appropriation to date. This can
be provided in the format presented for the operating budget.
Agenda Item No. 20. Discussion: Crozet Replacement. School Plans.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if it would be possible to take a basic elementary
school plan, such as the one for Brownsville or Woodbrook, and examine with
the County staff what fundamental changes would have to be made in those plans
to comply with current State standards. From this analysis, the cost could be
estimated for the construction of a facility for a student body the size of
the one that is to be at the Crozet School. He thinks the comparables used to
justify the design of the Crozet School may or may not be'.basic educational
facilities. He has a hard time believing the design the Board saw was a basic
educational facility. He said the Board will be considering many more build-
ings, and this information is needed for those, but if there is a way that a
basic design can be done without having the architect start all over again,
then some approximate estimate could be made for those buildings. While he
thinks it may be true that Crozet School is not significantly different than
other schools being built today, he is not confident that's!just a basic educa-
tional facility has been considered. He said he is talking about something
that provides a decent environment for students to learn ~n but is not de-
signed with oddly shaped rooms and lmbrar~es. He thinks that tinkering with
the design isn't going to help, and he wonders if the Sta~e Department of
Education has a basic plan. He does not understand why there cannot be a
basic design that can be used in this County instead of h~ving to create an
elegant design for every new building.
Mr. Lindstrom believes one of the problems is that committees, with no
ultimate financial responsibility for the project, are asked to come up with
the initial drawings. He said these committees also havei!the initial input
with the architect, who does not have any real restraint, iii~ He went on to say
that the Board has to put a budget figure in the Capital ~mprovements plan,
and that figure becomes a target which has already been e~ceeded by the
proposal before it goes to contract. He would like to know if this request
could be answered without spending a lot of money and six,months to do it. He
does not know if this will benefit Crozet School, but it ~uld certainly help
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the next building considered and it might be beneficial to look at it in terms
of the Crozet School.
Mr. Way commented that plans are already being developed for the new
Southside School, and it is almost too late to get input on those plans.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if members of this Board could sit in on the
Southside School meetings. Mr. Way responded that he is already sitting in on
these meetings.
Mr. Lindstrom asked if his suggestion is possible. Mr. Agnor said there
are communities that have used basic plans and adapted them to the site. He
said the County took this approach years ago, but has not done it in recent
years, and he has not found any localities that are doing it now. He added
that taking a basic set of plans and updating them to meet current require-
ments could be done, but not in-house because the staff does not know the
State Department of Education requirements. The staff knows only the inspec-
tion and BOCA Code requirements. He said someone could be employed who would
know these requirements and could look at a set of plans and indicate where
the changes are needed, and then calculate the cost. Most of the calcula-
tions, in terms of getting a second opinion,~tare usually done by a contractor
who has cost estimators who work for him. To do what Mr. Lindstrom is sug-
gesting, Mr. Agnor said, would require outside help.
Mr. Agnor told Mrs. Cooke that the complications are because of the
changes in the Code which can be very comple~ and involve a lot of money.
Most of these changes involve mechanical, electrical and air handling. He
said these are requirements of the BOCA Code~' but there are also State Depart-
ment of Education health requirements that eqter into the design of buildings
and these requirements have changed since th~ other schools were built. He
noted that someone would have to be responsigle for knowing what these changes
are and inserting them into the calculations~i
Mr. Lindstrom said if it can be verifie~ that this building or something
similar to it that is being designed for Cro~et is in fact a good, basic,
efficient design, then that is a worthwhile ~hing to know.
Mr. Agnor remarked that a good way to sdlve this problem is to have
someone study the plans and give the Board a professional opinion. He said
the person can critique the design and the materials that are being proposed.
Mr. Bain asked at what point in the pro,less should this be done. He
mentioned that the plans for Crozet are not ~eady to go to bid, but there is
already a basic plan, without detailed drawings. Mr. Agnor answered that the
detailed drawings would have to be studied id'~ order to have a thorough analy-
sis of materials and such, because these thi~s will not be included in the
basic design.
Fir. Lindstrom asked if the plans for th ~i Brownsville school could be
given to a cost estimator or someone who is~'miliar with current require-
ments, and if that person could be told-to t~:e the basic design and do
whatever is needed to meet State Code and report the cost estimates back to
the Board.
Mr. Bowie said he thinks two different things are being discussed.
first thing to be considered is whether old p
can, then someone would have to determine how
bring them up to the educational requirements
thing suggested is that someone study the Cro
is a legitimate business practice, and he ask
recently.
The
.ans can be studied. If they
the plans must be modified to
and the state Code. The second
:et School design. He said this
~d if this has been done
Mr. Bowie said he still has trouble accepting the fact that the shortest
way between two points is a curved line, and ~hat a peaked roof is just as
cheap as a flat roof. He thinks someone need~ to take a look at these
designs. Mr. Lindstrom agreed this is why he,thinks another approach to the
school designs is needed. He asked if a join~ meeting with the School Board
is necessary or should the Board of Supervisors go ahead with its ideas and
then let the School Board know the result of ~ts findings. ~
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Mr. Bowie agreed that the Board of Supervisors, on its own, should find a
way to verify the cost estimates.
Mr. Bowie asked if the study can be done in a short time. Mr. Agnor said
he would get a idea of the time and costs for such studies. He said Mr.
Perkins had asked him for the prices of two projects in the Rockingham County
school system. Mr. Agnor asked Mr. Overstreet to get the information for him,
and he has not received an answer yet. Mr. Agnor understands, however, that
these two projects are basic types of school buildings. Mr. Agnor said he
called some people to see if they have had anyone analyzing the designs of
their school buildings, and the City school system informed him that it is
regularly done in that system.
Mr. Bowie asked if a motion is needed, or can the Board just ask that the
information be back by next week. Mr. Agnor said no motion is needed.
Mrs. Cooke said parents get emotionally involved and want beautiful
buildings and frills for their children. She said sometimes they do not pay
much attention to logic and economics. She added that the taxpayers then have
to pay for things when they are not necessary, and they have to pay for
"wants" rather than "needs". She went on to say that unless somebody steps in
and takes a stand, then the costs will just keep going up.
Mr. Perkins remarked that he does not think that parents or the people on
the school committees can be blamed for the designs of the schools. He said
the committees and parents are usually looking at such t~ings as computer
rooms, music rooms and some basic things that some elemehtary schools do not
have. He said this is when the parity issue comes up.
Mr. Lindstrom said parity is something that everybody is committed to try
to provide. He said each building does not have to be different. He said
that when an elegant building is built somewhere, and then another one like it
is built, then it becomes a parity issue, and soon other ~reas want elegant
buildings, too. ·
Mr. Bowie said there is no doubt in his mind that spending money now on a
set of plans and a second estimate will save money later... He agreed with Mr.
Perkins that the County should not have to rely on a report of what is the
highest cost for a school as reported by the State Department of Education.
H~ thinks the County should be given a report on the cost per square foot for
the last ten schools that were built in the State, and then the Board will
have its own figures.
At 3:34 P.M., Mr. Way announced that he had to leave'the meeting because
he had to participate in "Leadership Charlottesville" at ~:00 P.M. Mrs. Cooke
assumed the duties of Chairman. Mr. Bowie also left at this time.
Agenda Item No. 23.
Comprehensive Plan.
Discussion:
Schedule and Agendas for Review of
Mr. Agnor informed members of the Board that the first work session on
the Comprehensive Plan has been scheduled for November 2 ~t 1:30 P.M., and the
hearing to receive public comments will be held on ~Novemb~r 2 at 7:30 P.M. He
said the next work session will be held on the afternoon ~f November 9, which
is the all day Board meeting, and another work session will be held on Novem-
ber 16 at 1:30 p.m. He went on to say that if the Board'~ work is complete at
that point, the public hearing could be held on the nightiof December 7, but
if it is not complete by that time, the public hearing can be rescheduled.
Mr. Agnor added that after the public hearing is held, at,the end of all of
the work sessions, then the Board is ready for the adoption. He said Mr.
Way's schedule had another work session scheduled just in'case the Board
needed to make amendments. He would assume, if that is ti
this work session could be held on December 14.
Mr. Agnor brought up the fact that Mr. Horne has the
document on a word processor. He said the idea has been~
the Board goes through the work sessions, it would be hel'
could be made on the sections of the plan and amendments
He said that he would recommend this process because it w
Le situation, that
Comprehensive Plan
iscussed that, as
ful if decisions
ade at that time.
uld allow for a
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timely document to be made available for public scrutiny. He also stated that
a decision does not have to be reached on this matter today.
(Note: Mr. Bowie returned to the meeting at 4:06 P.M.)
Mrs. Cooke said that since the idea involving the word processor does not
have to be decided upon today, the Board members can give some thought to this
and make a decision at the next meeting.
Agenda Item No. 24. Other Matters Not Listed on the Agenda from the
Board and Public.
A draft resolution was presented to the Board supporting the position of
the Albemarle/Charlottesville/University of Virginia Joint Transportation
Con~nittee as it relates to the U. S. Route 29 North Environmental Impact
Statement.
Motion was offered by Mr. Bowie, seconded by Mr. Bain, to adopt the
following resolution, with copies being sent to Constance Kinchloe, Ray
Pethtel, Vivian Watts, R. L. Hundley, the City of Charlottesville, the Metro-
politan Planning Organization, and local representatives to the General
Assembly, with a cover letter signed by the Chairman.
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors has been furnished a copy of a
letter from R. L. Hundley, Environmenta~ Engineer, Department of
Transportation, dated October 3, 1988, addressed to Robert W. Tucker,
Jr., Deputy County Executive (copy attached); and
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors supports the resolution
adopted on September 23, 1988, by the Albemarle/Charlottesville/
University of Virginia Joint Transportation Committee as it relates
to the U. S. Route 29 North Environmental Impact Statement; and
WHEREAS, the Board of Supervisors especially supports the
testing, through the Traffic Model, of ~he proposed grade-separated
interchanges of U. S. Route 29 North/RiG Road and U. S. Route 29
North/Hydraulic Road; both of the proposed interchanges are a part of
the Charlottesville Area Transportation ~Study and have never been
deleted as a needed improvement for U. S~'.~ Route 29 North by either
the Cmty of Charlottesville or the Counti~ of Albemarle;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that~ the Board of Supervisors of
Albemarle County, Virginia, restates its~support of the resolution
mentioned above, and orders that copies ~f this resolution be for-
warded to The HonOrable Vivian Watts, SeCretary of Transportation,
Mrs. Constance Kinchloe, Culpeper DistriCt Commissioner, Mr.
Ray
Pethtel, Highway Commissioner, Mr. R. L.tHundley, Department of
Transportation, The Honorable Thomas J. Michie, Jr., The Honorable
Mitchell Van Yahres, The Honorable Georg$ F. Allen, the City of
Charlottesville, the University of Virginia, and the Metropolitan
Planning Organization. ~l~
There was no further discussion. Roll was called and the motion carried
by the following recorded vote:
AYES: Mr. Bain and Mr. Bowie, Mrs. Cooke, Mri Lindstrom and Mr. Perkins.
NAYS: None.
ABSENT: Mr. Way.
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Mr. Bowie mentioned a letter that Mr. Agnor received from the Madison
County Board of Supervisors asking him to do something about the traffic on
Route 29 North.
Mr. Agnor mentioned that the 1989 tax notices will be mailed out at the
beginning of next week.
Agenda Item No. 25. Adjourn. At 4:11 P.M., with no further business to
come before the Board, the meeting was adjourned.