HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB201800122 Correspondence 2018-10-22Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 9:19 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Re: 518 Barracks Farm Rd
Paty,
Your previous email said you hoped to review my submission early last week and I wanted to check on progress.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> On Oct 8, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
> Troy,
> We usually receive soil studies for drainfield sites, with the appropriate VDH application included, but if you already
have VDH approvals on a rare occasion we receive those as well. If you have approvals we will need the plat/drawings
that went with them as well.
> One way or another VDH approval has to be granted for the parcels.
> VDH approval, if it has not yet been granted, can be time consuming because they are as backed up as we are. So
please submit anything you have right away.
> There are still some reviews in front of yours. However, I am hopeful to start the review of your submission by early
next week. It all depends on how the review in front of yours go. So I can't predict it well.
> Thanks,
> Paty Saternye
> Senior Planner
> Community Development
> Albemarle County
> 401 McIntire Road
> Charlottesville, VA 22902
> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
> psaternye@albemarle.org
> www.albemarle.org
> -----Original Message -----
> From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 2:26 PM
> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
> Subject: Re: 518 Barracks Farm Rd
> PATY,
> Thank you for the reply. I have the AOSE report I can submit to you. When is the plat review scheduled to happen?
> Troy Wade
> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
> Office- (540) 967-9233
> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
>> On Oct 5, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
>> Mr. Wade,
>> Generally, finding out what is missing in the submission take place at the review. That review had not happened yet.
As we discussed when we met, our work load is very backed up and therefore the first round of review has not yet
happened.
>> As specified below, I have not heard back from your lawyer.
>> The private street circumstance has not yet been determined.
>> If what is shown on the plat is correct, and there is only an existing easement, the creation of a private street will be
required. The number of lots the road serves will dictate the processes, standards and paperwork required for review
and establishment of the private street.
>> Also, one thing of note is that it appears that no paperwork for the Virginia Department of Health (VDH) review of the
proposed drainfield has been submitted. The submission to VDH, and the VDH approval of a primary and reserve
drainfield area, is required. That will be stated in the first round of comments.
>> The appropriate paperwork for VDH is submitted to us and then we forward it on to the VDH for review.
>> That is what I can tell you at this time, prior to review of the plat.
>> Until the plat is reviewed we will not know all of the comments that will be required.
>> Thanks,
>> Paty Saternye
>> Senior Planner
>> Community Development
>> Albemarle County
>> 401 McIntire Road
>> Charlottesville, VA 22902
>> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
>> psaternye@albemarle.org
>> www.albemarle.org
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 10:51 AM
>> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
>> Subject: Re: 518 Barracks Farm Rd
>> Paty,
>> I hope you're well. Today marks the six week mark for my review process and I was looking for an update. Hopefully
you have all the information you need, if there's anything I can do in the meantime or any comments or requests for
additional information that you have that I can get started on I would appreciate knowing about them as soon as
possible. Do you have any sort of timeframe for getting approval to me?
>> Troy Wade
>> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
>> Office- (540) 967-9233
>> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
>> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
>>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 5:35 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
>>> Troy,
>>> No update yet. There are still many projects in the queue before yours.
>>> However, I had gotten a voicemail from your lawyer, and I responded with a voicemail, but have not heard back
from him.
>>> I just want to make sure he didn't send an email with his questions that didn't get to me. My email address is a hard
one.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paty Saternye
>>> Senior Planner
>>> Community Development
>>> Albemarle County
>>> 401 McIntire Road
>>> Charlottesville, VA 22902
>>> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
>>> psaternye@albemarle.org
>>> www.albemarle.org
>>> -----Original Message -----
>>> From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 2:04 PM
>>> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
>>> Subject: 518 Barracks Farm Rd
>>> Patty,
>>> I hope you are well and had a nice weekend. I wanted to touch base and see when you thought I might be getting
information on any requested changes to my sub division submittal and was interested in a general update.
>>> Troy Wade
>>> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
>>> Office- (540) 967-9233
>>> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
>>> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Andrew Gast -Bray
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:46 PM
To: CDD - Planning
Subject: FW: [RADIO INTERVIEW FOR] Small Area & Econ Dev Strategic Plans
FYI — Rio29 phone interview
Andrew Gast -Bray
(434) 296-5832 x 3254
From: Les Sinclair<LSinclair@Charlottesvilleradiogroup.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 3:14 PM
To: Emily Kilroy <ekilroy@albemarle.org>
Cc: Andrew Gast -Bray <agastbray@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: [RADIO INTERVIEW FOR] Small Area & Econ Dev Strategic Plans
Thanks. Can you do 5:08 live or would you prefer to record at 3:30?
-Les Sinclair
On Oct 19, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Emily Kilroy <ekilroy@albemarle.org> wrote:
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Saga Communications. Do not click links or open attachments
unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
Hi Les! I'm copying here Andrew Gast -Bray, Planning Director. He is available for this - I'll let you two
work out timing.
Sent from my Phone
On Oct 19, 2018, at 2:23 PM, Les Sinclair<LSinclair@Charlottesvilleradiogrouo.com> wrote:
Hello Emily,
Would you have someone that could talk with me about these items that just came out
in the County Newsletter?
It would be great if it were one person... I could do that at 5:08. If it's two folks I could
do one at 4:35 and one at 5:08... Or I could tape at 3:30.
Let me know what's possible.
Thank you, in advance.
Les Sinclair
Z95.1 Program Dir. & Host (95.1-FM)
Z95.1 studio: 434-220-2395
Newsradio WINA Host (98.9-FM & 1070-AM)
WINA studio: 434-977-1070
My Office 434-220-2396
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 12:13 PM
To: mmorris@vofonline.org
Subject: FW: VOF contact
Attachments: 2018-10-19 scan of SUB2018-145 TMP 44-22 combined.pdf
Ms. Morris,
Scott Clark suggested I contact you about a subdivision plat we have under review.
It appears that you have a Virginia Outdoors Foundation conservation easement on the parcel.
This is TMP 44-22.
They are proposing to subdivide the lot, creating a 3 acre parcel.
Attached please find a rough scan of the plat they submitted in hard copy to us.
Thank you,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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From: Scott Clark
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:45 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: VOF contact
Hi, Paty—
The best contact at VOF right now is Martha Morris — mmorris@vofonline.org.
If you send her a brief summary of what proposed (and maybe a scan of the plat), she can tell you if they have any
concerns or not.
--Scott
Scott Clark, Senior Planner (Rural Areas)
Albemarle County Community Development Dept.
434-296-5832 ext. 3249
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: BizHubEngineering@albemarle.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:19 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Message from KM_364e
Attachments: SKM_364e-En 18101013190.pdf
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Bedsaul, Willis <willis.bedsaul@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 12:03 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Cc: Adam Moore
Subject: Re: SUB-2018-00145-Barracks Farm -Final Plat
Hello Paty,
I wanted to follow up on your question on the length of Barracks Farm Road Route 658, our files indicate that the length
is 1.02 miles to the end of the State maintenance. I hope you find this helpful.
Thanks, Willis
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternveCa@albemarle.org> wrote:
Willis,
Have you had a chance to look at the question I sent earlier this week about this project?
Could VDOT provide an answer for it?
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:25 AM
To: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov>
Cc: Deel, Justin (VDOT)<Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov>; Bedsaul, Willis <willis.bedsaul@vdot.virginia.gov>
Subject: AUB2018-145 The Barracks Farm - 2 Lot Subdivision
Adam,
I just wanted to touch base with you, Justin & Willis in reference to a subdivision plat I distributed to you recently
(SUB2018-145 The Barracks Farm — 2 lot subdivision).
We are uncertain if the state road reaches the subject parcel, and if it does how much frontage the existing parcel has
on that state road.
Since this is a somewhat strange circumstance I wanted to give you guys a heads up so you can be looking into that in
your review and forward me any information you have on that frontage condition and length.
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Thanks O!
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-S832 ext.32S0
psaternve@albemarle.or¢
www.albemarle.ora
From: Bedsaul, Willis<willis.bedsaul@vdot.vireinia.eov>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Adam Moore <adam.moore@vdot.vireinia.aov>
Subject: SUB-2018-00145-Barracks Farm -Final Plat
Hello Paty,
Attached you'll find the review letter on the above subject, if you have any questions please call.
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Thanks,
Willis C. Bedsaul
Land Development Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Use-Albemarle/Green/Madison
701 VDOT Way
Charlottesville Residency
Ph# 434-422-9866
Cell# 540-219-5492
Willis C. Bedsaul
Land Development Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Use-Albemarle/Green/Madison
701 VDOT Way
Charlottesville Residency
Ph# 434-422-9866
Cell# 540-219-5492
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Bedsaul, Willis <willis.bedsaul@vdot.virginia.gov>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 12:03 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Cc: Adam Moore
Subject: Re: SUB-2018-00145-Barracks Farm -Final Plat
Hello Paty,
I wanted to follow up on your question on the length of Barracks Farm Road Route 658, our files indicate that the length
is 1.02 miles to the end of the State maintenance. I hope you find this helpful.
Thanks, Willis
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternveCa@albemarle.org> wrote:
Willis,
Have you had a chance to look at the question I sent earlier this week about this project?
Could VDOT provide an answer for it?
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 9:25 AM
To: Moore, Adam <adam.moore@vdot.virginia.gov>
Cc: Deel, Justin (VDOT)<Justin.Deel@vdot.virginia.gov>; Bedsaul, Willis <willis.bedsaul@vdot.virginia.gov>
Subject: AUB2018-145 The Barracks Farm - 2 Lot Subdivision
Adam,
I just wanted to touch base with you, Justin & Willis in reference to a subdivision plat I distributed to you recently
(SUB2018-145 The Barracks Farm — 2 lot subdivision).
We are uncertain if the state road reaches the subject parcel, and if it does how much frontage the existing parcel has
on that state road.
Since this is a somewhat strange circumstance I wanted to give you guys a heads up so you can be looking into that in
your review and forward me any information you have on that frontage condition and length.
13
Thanks O!
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-S832 ext.32S0
psaternve@albemarle.or¢
www.albemarle.ora
From: Bedsaul, Willis<willis.bedsaul@vdot.vireinia.eov>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 4:32 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ors>
Cc: Adam Moore <adam.moore@vdot.vireinia.aov>
Subject: SUB-2018-00145-Barracks Farm -Final Plat
Hello Paty,
Attached you'll find the review letter on the above subject, if you have any questions please call.
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Thanks,
Willis C. Bedsaul
Land Development Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Use-Albemarle/Green/Madison
701 VDOT Way
Charlottesville Residency
Ph# 434-422-9866
Cell# 540-219-5492
Willis C. Bedsaul
Land Development Engineer
Virginia Department of Transportation
Land Use-Albemarle/Green/Madison
701 VDOT Way
Charlottesville Residency
Ph# 434-422-9866
Cell# 540-219-5492
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:46 AM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
1 understand and was only kidding about the delay
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompmy.com
On Aug 24, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
That is just the standard process and not a delay.
As you may know, bureaucracy takes time and Albemarle is a not exception especially because of its
size.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:39 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Thanks Paty, y'all can make it up to me by moving at ludicrous speed. 0
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iarnisondaviscompgny.com
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On Aug 24, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Patricia Satemye <psatenrye(cbalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
It was nice meeting you in person yesterday.
I was able to get some information from Jen Smith in reference to your refund for
SUB2018-122 The Barracks Family Subdivision.
I have confirmed that your refund is in process. However, she could not provide a time
frame for how much longer the process will take. Generally the process is not a fast
one.
I apologize for not being able to give you an ETA.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.or�
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and
highlighted the page where the check list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as
long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist
that are not yet in the subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your
survey company before submission to avoid unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
<image001.gif>
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
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www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the
check list for the plat requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: troy(Mamisondaviscomoany.com
Website: www.FamisondaviscompanV.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Satemye
<psatemyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the
requirement for a Family division. The land must be legally
owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that
requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you
would need to officially request a withdrawal of the current
submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to
withdraw the current submission. However, if you dolt the family
division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the
submission fee. In order to do so you should email Jennifer Smith
at jsmith2galbemarle.org but please copy me on that email so that
I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to
Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for
the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private
street" is required in order to meet the "road frontage" requirement
of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already
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legally a "private street", and meets all private street requirements
for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be
approved by the County. That would require Planning
Commission approval, which is a separate process from the
subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns
out to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for
"agent" approval (which is more administrative) process because
the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232
(A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for information on
when private streets may be authorized in the rural areas and who
may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information
on the existing road/driveway is provided and determined, we will
not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required
in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye&albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <trovna iamisondaviscompanv.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psatemyegalbemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the
application my wife and I submitted for a family subdivision.
Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and
let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iarnisondaviscompgny.com
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<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:44 AM
To: Troy Wade
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
That is just the standard process and not a delay.
As you may know, bureaucracy takes time and Albemarle is a not exception especially because of its size.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
s°F
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ore
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:39 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Thanks Paty, y'all can make it up to me by moving at ludicrous speed.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.j amisondaviscompany. com
On Aug 24, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Patricia Saternye <psatern e a albemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
It was nice meeting you in person yesterday.
I was able to get some information from Jen Smith in reference to your refund for SUB2018-122 The
Barracks Family Subdivision.
I have confirmed that your refund is in process. However, she could not provide a time frame for how
much longer the process will take. Generally the process is not a fast one.
I apologize for not being able to give you an ETA.
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Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
<image001.gif>
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page
where the check list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for
a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet
in the subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before
submission to avoid unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
<image001.gif>
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.orR>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the
plat requirements?
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Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: troyMamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternve(a,albemarle.org>
wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a
Family division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family
member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to
officially request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission
fee. In order to do so you should email Jennifer Smith at jsmith2(a,albemarle.org,
but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is
underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new
submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required
in order to meet the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private
street", and meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then
a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would require
Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision
process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval
(which is more administrative) process because the road in question serves more
parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please see the
attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for
information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural areas and who
may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing
road/driveway is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more
about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the street frontage
requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
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Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psatemye(&albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@Jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psatemye(a-balbemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my
wife and I submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you
referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscomp@ny.com
<CHAPT -R 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:39 AM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Thanks Paty, y'all can make it up to me by moving at ludicrous speed. 0
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscomp@ny.com
On Aug 24, 2018, at 8:19 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
It was nice meeting you in person yesterday.
I was able to get some information from Jen Smith in reference to your refund for SUB2018-122 The
Barracks Family Subdivision.
I have confirmed that your refund is in process. However, she could not provide a time frame for how
much longer the process will take. Generally the process is not a fast one.
I apologize for not being able to give you an ETA.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@0amisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page
where the check list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for
a 2 lot subdivision.
25
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet
in the subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before
submission to avoid unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
<image001.gif>
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.or�
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the
plat requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540) 967-9234
Email: troyMamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org>
wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a
Family division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family
member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to
officially request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission
fee. In order to do so you should email Jennifer Smith at ismith2 e albemarle.org
26
but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is
underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new
submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required
in order to meet the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private
street", and meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then
a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would require
Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision
process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval
(which is more administrative) process because the road in question serves more
parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please see the
attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for
information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural areas and who
may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing
road/driveway is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more
about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the street frontage
requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psatemye(a)albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troygJamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternye(a)albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my
wife and I submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you
referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
27
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscomp@ny.com
<CHAPT -R 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
28
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:23 AM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Thankyou!
Jen
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:14 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <jsmith2@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Thanks for the info.
I'll let him know.
I know that things like this take time.
Thank you @,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
4,0
u
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.orR
www.albemarle.ors
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Paty:
I do not have a time frame on the refund. They take a while to process.
Thank you!
Jen
29
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <Ismith2@albemarle.ors>
Subject: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Troy Wade has asked me about where we are in the process for processing his refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks
Family Subdivision that was withdrawn on 7/19/18.
He said he contacted you requesting the refund.
Can you update me on where the refund in in the process and approximately when it might come through? Then I will
forward the information to him.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ors
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
30
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: troyniamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <12saternyekalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at ismith2 albemarle.org but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street' is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street', and
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street' will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent' approval (which is more
31
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternyegalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscompgny.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
32
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:19 AM
To: Troy Wade
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
It was nice meeting you in person yesterday.
I was able to get some information from Jen Smith in reference to your refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks Family
Subdivision.
I have confirmed that your refund is in process. However, she could not provide a time frame for how much longer the
process will take. Generally the process is not a fast one.
I apologize for not being able to give you an ETA.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
v
t
u
u,
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ors
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
33
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <trov@iamisondaviscomoany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President(CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: troyaFamisondaviscomoany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscomoany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Satemye <psaternyekalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at 6smith2(aa)a1bemarle.org, but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street' is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street', and
34
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaterny(a-),albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ora
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a)albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscompgny.com
<CHAPT -R 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdt>
35
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:14 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Thanks for the info.
I'll let him know.
I know that things like this take time.
Thank you @,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
.m
�;4
U
�/Rp
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ors
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Paty:
I do not have a time frame on the refund. They take a while to process.
Thank you!
Jen
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <Ismith2@albemarle.ors>
Subject: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Troy Wade has asked me about where we are in the process for processing his refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks
Family Subdivision that was withdrawn on 7/19/18.
He said he contacted you requesting the refund.
36
Can you update me on where the refund in in the process and approximately when it might come through? Then I will
forward the information to him.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Ovo-,O,
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
d yp;
U
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
37
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540) 967-9234
Email: troyaiamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at jsmith2 albemarle.org but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
38
Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psatemyegalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade<trovna,iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iarnisondaviscompgny.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdt>
39
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 8:14 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Thanks for the info.
I'll let him know.
I know that things like this take time.
Thank you @,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
.m
�;4
U
�/Rp
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ors
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Paty:
I do not have a time frame on the refund. They take a while to process.
Thank you!
Jen
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <Ismith2@albemarle.ors>
Subject: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Troy Wade has asked me about where we are in the process for processing his refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks
Family Subdivision that was withdrawn on 7/19/18.
He said he contacted you requesting the refund.
0
Can you update me on where the refund in in the process and approximately when it might come through? Then I will
forward the information to him.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Ovo-,O,
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
d yp;
U
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.ors
From: Troy Wade <troy@mamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
41
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540) 967-9234
Email: troyaiamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at jsmith2 albemarle.org but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
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Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psatemyegalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade<trovna,iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iarnisondaviscompgny.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdt>
43
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:08 AM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: RE: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Paty:
I do not have a time frame on the refund. They take a while to process.
Thank you!
Jen
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <jsmith2@albemarle.org>
Subject: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Jen,
Troy Wade has asked me about where we are in the process for processing his refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks
Family Subdivision that was withdrawn on 7/19/18.
He said he contacted you requesting the refund.
Can you update me on where the refund in in the process and approximately when it might come through? Then I will
forward the information to him.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
M
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
Psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540) 967-9234
Email: troyaiamisondaviscompany.com
Website: www.gamisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
45
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at ismith20albemarle.org, but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternyekalbemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <trovna iamisondaviscompanv.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternyegalbemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
M
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
47
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:53 AM
To: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Subject: SUB201800122 Barracks - Family subdivision withdrawn
Attachments: Subdivision_Plat_&_Checklist marked up.pdf
Jen,
Troy Wade has asked me about where we are in the process for processing his refund for SUB2018-122 The Barracks
Family Subdivision that was withdrawn on 7/19/18.
He said he contacted you requesting the refund.
Can you update me on where the refund in in the process and approximately when it might come through? Then I will
forward the information to him.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
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Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
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www.albemarle.or�
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
48
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <trov@iamisondaviscomoany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President(CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: troyaFamisondaviscomoany.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscomoany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Satemye <psaternyekalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at 6smith2(aa)a1bemarle.org, but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street' is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street', and
49
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaterny(a-),albemarle.org
www.albemarle.ora
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@iamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a)albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscompgny.com
<CHAPT -R 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdt>
50
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 12:35 PM
To: Troy Wade
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Attachments: Subdivision_Plat_&_Checklist marked up.pdf
Mr. Wade,
Attached please find the check list.
This checklist is for more than just 2-lot subdivisions.
However, I've crossed out the pages that do not apply to a 2-lot subdivision and highlighted the page where the check
list for a 2 lot subdivision starts. This will apply as long as the subdivision plat is only for a 2 lot subdivision.
Also, as previously mentioned on the phone, I think there may be things in the checklist that are not yet in the
subdivision plat. So it would be good to coordinate that with your survey company before submission to avoid
unnecessary comments.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
� A
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternve@albemarle.ore
www.albemarle.org
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat
requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540) 967-9234
Email: trovla.iamisondaviscomoany.com
Website: www.jamisondaviscomoany.com
51
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Satemye <psaternyegalbemarle.org> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family
division. The land must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not
meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially
request a withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current
submission. However, if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do
so you should email Jennifer Smith at jsmith2 e albemarle.org but please copy me on that email
so that I will know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund
is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet
the "road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and
meets all private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have
to be approved by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a
separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out
to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's
subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural
areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway
is provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be
required in reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Satemye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psatern�e((a),albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
52
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <trpy@Jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Satemye <psaternve( )albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I
submitted for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail
and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.iamisondaviscompaLiy.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
53
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 10:28 AM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Attachments: PastedGraphic-2.pdf
I hope you had a nice time Monday and Tuesday. Can you please provide the check list for the plat requirements?
Troy Wade - President/CEO
Office - (540) 967-9233
Fax- (540)967-9234
Email: trovO-iamisondaviscompanv.com
Website: www.Famisondaviscompany.com
On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> wrote:
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family division. The land
must be legally owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially request a
withdrawal of the current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current submission. However,
if you don't the family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do so you
should email Jennifer Smith at ismith2@albemarle.ore, but please copy me on that email so that I will
know the process is underway. You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet the
"road frontage" requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and meets all
private street requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be approved
by the County. That would require Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the
subdivision process. I can give you more details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more
administrative) process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be
subject to your subdivision (Please see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision
ordinance for information on when private streets may be authorized in the rural areas and who may
authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway is
provided and determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required in
54
reference to meeting the street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
Psaternve@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted
for a family subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know
what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
<CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
55
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From:
Patricia Saternye
Sent:
Thursday, July 19, 2018 4:48 PM
To:
David Benish
Cc:
Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Subject:
FW: Barracks Farm - SUB2018-122
David,
The applicant for SUB201800122 The Barracks - Family subdivision has requested his application be withdrawn and to
get a refund.
This is the family division that could not be approved as a family division, that we just received this week and was
discussed at Tuesday's distribution meeting. The land is owned by an LLC.
They will be resubmitting as a 2-Lot subdivision.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:59 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <ismith2@albemarle.org>
Cc: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning <jsmith2@albemarle.org>
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Mrs Smith,
I would like to request a refund of my application for a family subdivision as described in the email below so that I may
apply in the proper fashion.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
56
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
> Mr. Wade,
> Thanks for emailing.
> Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family division. The land must be legally
owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
> You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially request a withdrawal of the
current submission (SUB201800122).
> As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current submission. However, if you don't
the family division will be denied.
> If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do so you should email
Jennifer Smith at jsmith2@albemarle.org, but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is underway.
You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
> When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
> This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
> One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet the "road frontage"
requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
> If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and meets all private street
requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would
require Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more
details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
> The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more administrative)
process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please
see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets
may be authorized in the rural areas and who may authorize them).
> Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway is provided and
determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the
street frontage requirement.
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks,
> Paty Saternye
> Senior Planner
> Community Development
> Albemarle County
> 401 McIntire Road
> Charlottesville, VA 22902
> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
> psaternye@albemarle.org
> www.albemarle.org
> -----Original Message-----
* From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
471
> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
> Subject: Barracks Farm
> Ma'am,
> I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted for a family
subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
> Troy Wade
> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
> Office- (540) 967-9233
> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> <CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
58
Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:59 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Thank for for the assistance. Is there a time we can speak to discuss the process moving forward as we are eager to start
construction.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
> Mr. Wade,
> Thanks for emailing.
> Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family division. The land must be legally
owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
> You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially request a withdrawal of the
current submission (SUB201800122).
> As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current submission. However, if you don't
the family division will be denied.
> If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do so you should email
Jennifer Smith at jsmith2@albemarle.org, but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is underway.
You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
> When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
> This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
> One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet the "road frontage"
requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
> If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and meets all private street
requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would
require Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more
details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
> The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more administrative)
process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please
see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets
may be authorized in the rural areas and who may authorize them).
> Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway is provided and
determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the
street frontage requirement.
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> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks,
> Paty Saternye
> Senior Planner
> Community Development
> Albemarle County
> 401 McIntire Road
> Charlottesville, VA 22902
> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
> psaternye@albemarle.org
> www.albemarle.org
> -----Original Message -----
> From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
> Subject: Barracks Farm
> Ma'am,
> I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted for a family
subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
> Troy Wade
> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
> Office- (540) 967-9233
> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> <CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:59 PM
To: Patricia Saternye; Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Cc: Jennifer Smith - CDD - Planning
Subject: Re: Barracks Farm
Mrs Smith,
I would like to request a refund of my application for a family subdivision as described in the email below so that I may
apply in the proper fashion.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> wrote:
> Mr. Wade,
> Thanks for emailing.
> Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family division. The land must be legally
owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
> You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially request a withdrawal of the
current submission (SUB201800122).
> As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current submission. However, if you don't
the family division will be denied.
> If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do so you should email
Jennifer Smith at jsmith2@albemarle.org, but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is underway.
You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
> When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
> This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
> One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet the "road frontage"
requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
> If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and meets all private street
requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would
require Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more
details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
> The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more administrative)
process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please
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see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets
may be authorized in the rural areas and who may authorize them).
> Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway is provided and
determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the
street frontage requirement.
> Please let me know if you have any questions.
> Thanks,
> Paty Saternye
> Senior Planner
> Community Development
> Albemarle County
> 401 McIntire Road
> Charlottesville, VA 22902
> 434-296-5832 ext.3250
> psaternye@albemarle.org
> www.albemarle.org
> -----Original Message -----
> From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
> To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
> Subject: Barracks Farm
> Ma'am,
> I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted for a family
subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
> Troy Wade
> Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
> Office- (540) 967-9233
> Mobile- (434) 466-8349
> www.jamisondaviscompany.com
> <CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf>
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Patricia Saternye
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:19 PM
To: Troy Wade
Subject: RE: Barracks Farm
Attachments: CHAPTER 14-232 Procecures private strees in rural areas.pdf
Mr. Wade,
Thanks for emailing.
Because your land is owned by an LLC it does not meet the requirement for a Family division. The land must be legally
owned by an immediate family member and LLCs to not meet that requirement.
You can resubmit as a 2 lot subdivision. But before doing so you would need to officially request a withdrawal of the
current submission (SUB201800122).
As mentioned in my second email, you are not required to withdraw the current submission. However, if you don't the
family division will be denied.
If you withdraw your submission you can ask for a refund of the submission fee. In order to do so you should email
Jennifer Smith at jsmith2@albemarle.org, but please copy me on that email so that I will know the process is underway.
You will need to explain to Ms. Smith why a refund is required.
When you resubmit you will have to pay the new fee specific for the new submission type.
This division can be submitted under a two -lot subdivision.
One thing I want to mention to you is that a public or "private street" is required in order to meet the "road frontage"
requirement of the subdivision ordinance.
If the road/driveway going through the property is not already legally a "private street", and meets all private street
requirements for what is being proposed, then a "private street" will have to be approved by the County. That would
require Planning Commission approval, which is a separate process from the subdivision process. I can give you more
details on that if it turns out to be necessary.
The subdivision proposed would not meet the requirements for "agent" approval (which is more administrative)
process because the road in question serves more parcels than the two that will be subject to your subdivision (Please
see the attached section 14-232 (A&B) of the County's subdivision ordinance for information on when private streets
may be authorized in the rural areas and who may authorize them).
Until the submission is reviewed, and the underlying information on the existing road/driveway is provided and
determined, we will not be able to tell you more about what will or will not be required in reference to meeting the
street frontage requirement.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Paty Saternye
Senior Planner
Community Development
Albemarle County
401 McIntire Road
Charlottesville, VA 22902
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434-296-5832 ext.3250
psaternye@albemarle.org
www.albemarle.org
-----Original Message -----
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted for a family
subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
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Patricia "Paty" Saternye
From: Troy Wade <troy@jamisondaviscompany.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 12:40 PM
To: Patricia Saternye
Subject: Barracks Farm
Ma'am,
I received your phone message today about the withdrawal of the application my wife and I submitted for a family
subdivision. Please email me the details you referenced in your voicemail and let me know what we need to do.
Troy Wade
Jamison Davis & Company, LLC
Office- (540) 967-9233
Mobile- (434) 466-8349
www.jamisondaviscompany.com
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