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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB201900029 Correspondence 2021-08-02Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia "Paty" Saternye Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 4:09 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: FW: Message from KM_364e Attachments: SKM_364e_Ce21080213570.pdf Cameron, Attached is one thing I found in my folder for PreApp2018-58, which was a discussion on a 3-lot subdivision for the parcel that ended up being SUB2019-29 & SUB2019-42. I don't think this is what Bill was talking about, because it is about the validity period for another subdivision. However, it was another email Bill had given me (I think in hard copy) when we had the Pre-App meeting. Be well, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Albemarle Countv psaternyeCaalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x3250 401 McIntire Road, Suite 228, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: BizHubCentralOps@albemarle.org <BizHubCentralOps@albemarle.org> Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:58 PM To: Patricia "Paty" Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: Message from KM_364e Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia "Paty" Saternye Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 2:15 PM To: Cameron Langille Subject: Info on Catlin Road that Bill sent me for other Subdivisions. Attachments: FW: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Cameron, Here is one thing that Bill sent me that mentioned Catlin. But it is very brief. Be well, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Albemarle Countv psaternye C@ a I be m a rl e.org 434-296-5832 x3250 401 McIntire Road, Suite 228, Charlottesville, VA 22902 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:41 AM To: Tom Albro; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com Cc: fml@stlawva.com; Sara Miller, alieda.keevil@gmail.com; eric.heinsohn@gmail.com; murphy.reid@gmail.com; Liz Palmer Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Attachments: SUB2019-42 Site Plan SRC Cover and UPDATE of DRAFT comments 8-29-2019e.pdf, 2019-05-09 markup from Fran L - neighbor - with note and labeling needed about road access.pdf Mr. Albro, Thank you for your interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Subdivision preliminary plat review. As mentioned below, although the preliminary plat review is currently deferred the applicant is preparing some of the items that are required to move forward. In that process I have just sent them an UPDATED but still draft version of the comments. The comments will not be finalized until we get closer to the end of the preliminary plat review process that is currently deferred. Attached please see those updated draft comments. Also, in my email below I mentioned that the applicant was debating a private versus public street. I had misinterpreted their question. They were just referring to a private street that must meet public/VDOT standards. They are still planning on submitting a private street request for this project. I will continue to update you as items are submitted, but please let me know if you have any questions. If any of the emails above appear to be wrong please let me know. These were from the handwritten contact information sheet I passed out the day of the SRC meeting. I am uncertain if I interpreted all of the email addressed correctly. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development s Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:36 PM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com>; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Mr. Albro, Thank you for reaching out. The applicant deferred during or soon after the SRC meeting. Because of the deferral I had not finalized the comments. I apologize for not contacting you with that information at that time. I have just been contacted by their consultant, the first time since the deferral, but I have not chatted with them yet. I think they want to discuss the private versus public road options. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 1:19 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Good afternoon Paty. Would you kindly update me on the status of this application? Thanks- Tom Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albro(rDtremblaysmith.com This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:53 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com>; rkine@aranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Sorry for the late notice, but I was just informed that the applicant no longer plans to have a representative at the SRC meeting. I know with such little notice you will likely not get this in time to choose not to attend after all. I apologize for any inconvenience and will be at the meeting even if the applicant is not. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:21 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rkins@eranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To All, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a` :a�/R4�eh*` Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot DI-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Andy Herrick Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 3:13 PM To: Scott Clark Cc: Jay Fennell; Patricia Saternye; Margaret Maliszewski Subject: RE: ACEA & Far Hills - Feedback Needed Attachments: ACEA - addition to agenda for 5/9 Scott, Other than the memo that you sent out ahead of the May 9 meeting (attached), I don't recall the ACEA's discussion of this item. I do think that your memo provides an accurate summary of the Far Hills deed. Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice:This email may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product or other confidential information. It is untended only for die designated recipient. If you receive dais message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:58 AM To: Jay Fennell <jsgfennell@gmail.com>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Margaret Maliszewski <MMaliszewski@albemarle.org> Subject: ACEA & Far Hills - Feedback Needed Importance: High Jay and Andy — At the May ACEA meeting, I presented an informational item for the Authority about SUB201900029 (since renumbered), which involved a proposed road that would use a right-of-way through a preservation tract of the Far Hills RPD. As the right-of-way pre -dates the RPD easement, the ACEA had no legal right to prevent or regulate the use of the right-of-way. Therefore, no action was needed or taken. Paty, who is the subdivision reviewer for this project, now needs my comments on this issue, as the plat review is active again. Unfortunately, I left this item out of the "New Business" section of the minutes for that meeting, so I would appreciate it if you both could confirm that my recall of the meeting ("no action need or taken") is correct. Andy, you will recall that we discussed this by e-mail before the meeting. Here is the comment on the matter that I propose to send to Paty: `The Albemarle Conservation Easement Authority holds an open -space easement on TMP 59-27X, which is crossed by the existing 50-foot right-of-way to be used for this project. As the right-of-way pre -dates the open - space easement, no Authority approval is needed, provided that all work remains within the limits of the recorded 50-foot right-of-way. Any expansion outside that right-of-way would require approval by the Authority, which might or might not be issued, and any approval would very likely require significant mitigation measures. Staff recommends that all proposed work remain within the 50-foot right-of-way." --Scott Scott Clark, Senior Planner (Rural Areas) Secretary, Albemarle Conservation Easement Authority Albemarle County Community Development Dept. 434-296-S832 ext. 3249 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 10:58 AM To: Jay Fennell; Andy Herrick Cc: Patricia Saternye; Margaret Maliszewski Subject: ACEA & Far Hills - Feedback Needed Importance: High Jay and Andy — At the May ACEA meeting, I presented an informational item for the Authority about SUB201900029 (since renumbered), which involved a proposed road that would use a right-of-way through a preservation tract of the Far Hills RPD. As the right-of-way pre -dates the RPD easement, the ACEA had no legal right to prevent or regulate the use of the right-of-way. Therefore, no action was needed or taken. Paty, who is the subdivision reviewer for this project, now needs my comments on this issue, as the plat review is active again. Unfortunately, I left this item out of the "New Business" section of the minutes for that meeting, so I would appreciate it if you both could confirm that my recall of the meeting ("no action need or taken") is correct. Andy, you will recall that we discussed this by e-mail before the meeting. Here is the comment on the matter that I propose to send to Paty: "The Albemarle Conservation Easement Authority holds an open -space easement on TMP 59-27X, which is crossed by the existing 50-foot right-of-way to be used for this project. As the right-of-way pre -dates the open - space easement, no Authority approval is needed, provided that all work remains within the limits of the recorded 50-foot right-of-way. Any expansion outside that right-of-way would require approval by the Authority, which might or might not be issued, and any approval would very likely require significant mitigation measures. Staff recommends that all proposed work remain within the 50-foot right-of-way." --Scott Scott Clark, Senior Planner (Rural Areas) Secretary, Albemarle Conservation Easement Authority Albemarle County Community Development Dept. 434-296-5832 ext. 3249 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Tori Kanellopoulos Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:33 AM To: Andy Reitelbach; Megan Nedostup; Patricia Saternye; Tim Padalino; Mariah Gleason Cc: Christopher Perez; David Benish Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception I did one in June as well for ZMA2019-1, but also just referenced 14-203.1 (no extra analysis or findings). Tori From: Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:00 PM To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Mariah Gleason <mgleason@albemarle.org>; Tori Kanellopoulos <vkanellopoulos@albemarle.org> Cc: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org>; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception I recently did a report (in May) for the sidewalk and planting strip exception request for ZMA2018-00019, 3226 Proffit Road; however, looking at my findings for the exception request, I only looked at and analyzed 14-422. The only time I mentioned 14-203.1 was in stating that 203.1 allows the Commission to vary or except these elements of a site. Thanks, Andy From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:34 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org>; Mariah Gleason <mgleason@albemarle.org>; Tori Kanellopoulos <vkanellopoulos@albemarle.org> Cc: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org>; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Anyone recently do a sidewalk or landscape strip report for the PC and make findings in 14-203.1? 1 haven't, but am not sure if this has come up again. I am guessing if legal is saying that we need to make the findings, then we need to make the findings, but wanted to check with you all to see if anyone has had one recently. Thanks, Megan Nedostup, AICP (pronounced nuh-DAHST-up) Principal Planner Community Development Department Planning Services ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004 From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 3:36 PM 10 To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.ore> Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Megan, The County Attorney provided feedback on the Montgomery Ridge staff report (see below) in which he is requesting that staff make the findings listed in Section 14-203.1 when the applicant resubmits and I write an updated report, however, this is not our standard practice when reviewing sidewalk and landscape strip variations. Truly we never make these findings on any of these requests but instead only make reference to Section 14-203.1, our true analysis comes from Section 14-422 related to the request. This has come up numerous times in the past with new planners, however, we merely tell the reviewers to stick with our standard practice. I believe I can make the finding for a variation under § 14-203.1(Bp)(2) with this proposal, but this would be a change in how we process these requests. How do you want me to proceed moving forward & on future requests like this? Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 § 14-2011(11)(2) Findings required for a variation. The agent or the commission may approve a request for a variation to substitute a required improvement upon finding that because of an unusual situation, the subdivider's substitution of a technique, design or materials of comparable quality from that required by the applicable regulation results in an improvement that substantially satisfies the overall purposes of this chapter in a manner equal to or exceeding the desired effects of the requirement in the applicable regulation. § 14-203.1 in X3) Findings required for an exception. The agent or the commission may approve a request for an exception from any requirement of the applicable regulation upon finding that: (i) because of an unusual situation, including but not limited to, the unusual size, topography, shape of the site or the location ofthe site; or (ii) when strict adherence to the requirements would result in substantial injustice or hardship by, including but not limited to, resulting in the significant degradation of the site or to adjacent properties, causing a detriment to the public health, safety or welfare, or by inhibiting the orderly development of the area or the application of sound engineering practices. From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.ore> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:47 PM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, Before this proposal comes back to the Planning Conmrission, I'd suggest that staff address: 1. Whether this is a "variation" or an "exception" and why. Each requires different findings. 2. Whether this proposal can support the required findings of County Code S 14-203.10(2) (if a variation) or $ 14-203.1(B) (3) (if an exception). Though certain findings are required, I didn't see them addressed in the current staff report Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product, or other confidential information. It is intended only for die designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake.'niank you. From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:35 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.ore>; Planning Commission<PlannineCommission@albemarle.ore> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception 11 Tim, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception Understood. I'll let the Planning Commission know about the deferral request. I'll also begin contacting citizens who have emailed or called me. Thank you Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development (County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 From: tmiller@meridianwbe.com <tmiller@meridianwbe.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:29 AM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, This is to request a deferral so that I can submit the revised plan in order to accommodate the complaints from the homeowners. Thanks, Timothy Miller, P.E., L.S. Principal 434-882-0121 www.meridianwbe.com Meridian Planning Group From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:26 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception From: Christopher Perez Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:32 PM To: Planning Commission<PlanningCommission @aIbemarle.org> Cc: Tim Miller <meridianwbe@gmail.com>; Daniel Greene <dgreene@albemarle.org>; inchankwon@gmail.com; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org>; Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; junghi chae <iunghichae@vahoo.com> Subject: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception 12 Planning Commissioners, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception The above referenced special exception is currently scheduled for the August 131 Planning Commission meeting. I received the attached signed petition from some of the residents of the Montgomery Ridge neighborhood expressing opposition to the current request to vary the road standards. Additionally, I received the attached written communication from 2 residents of the neighborhood. Please contact me if you have any questions. Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development lCounty of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 13 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Andy Reitelbach Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 4:00 PM To: Megan Nedostup; Patricia Saternye; Tim Padalino; Mariah Gleason; Tori Kanellopoulos Cc: Christopher Perez; David Benish Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception I recently did a report (in May) for the sidewalk and planting strip exception request for ZMA2018-00019, 3226 Proffit Road; however, looking at my findings for the exception request, I only looked at and analyzed 14-422. The only time I mentioned 14-203.1 was in stating that 203.1 allows the Commission to vary or except these elements of a site. Thanks, Andy From: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:34 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarle.org>; Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org>; Mariah Gleason <mgleason@albemarle.org>; Tori Kanellopoulos <vka nel lopoulos@albema rle.org> Cc: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org>; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Anyone recently do a sidewalk or landscape strip report for the PC and make findings in 14-203.1? 1 haven't, but am not sure if this has come up again. 1 am guessing if legal is saying that we need to make the findings, then we need to make the findings, but wanted to check with you all to see if anyone has had one recently. Thanks, Megan Nedostup, AICP (pronounced nuh-DAHST-up) Principal Planner Community Development Department Planning Services ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004 From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 3:36 PM To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org> Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Megan, The County Attorney provided feedback on the Montgomery Ridge staff report (see below) in which he is requesting that staff make the findings listed in Section 14-203.1 when the applicant resubmits and I write an updated report; however, this is not our standard practice when reviewing sidewalk and landscape strip variations. Truly we never make these findings on any of these requests but instead only make reference to Section 14-203.1, our true analysis comes from Section 14-422 related to the request. This has come up numerous times in the past with new planners; however, we merely tell the reviewers to stick with our standard practice. I believe I can make the fmding for a variation under & 14-203. 1 (B)(2) with this proposal, but this would be a change in how we process these requests. How do you want me to proceed moving forward & on future requests like this? 14 Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development ICounty of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 § 14-203 1(B )(2) Findings required for a variation. The agent or the commission may approve a request for a variation to substitute a required improvement upon finding that because of an unusual situation, the subdivider's substitution of a technique, design or materials of comparable quality from that required by the applicable regulation results in an improvement that substantially satisfies the overall purposes of this chapter in a manner equal to or exceeding the desired effects of the requirement in the applicable regulation. § 14-203 1 (BH3) Findings required for an exception. The agent or the commission may approve a request for an exception from any requirement of the applicable regulation upon finding that: (i) because of an unusual situation, including but not limited to, the unusual size, topography, shape of the site or the location of the site; or (ii) when strict adherence to the requirements would result in substantial injustice or hardship by, including but not limited to, resulting in the significant degradation of the site or to adjacent properties, causing a detriment to the public health, safety or welfare, or by inhibiting the orderly development of the area or the application of sound engineering practices. From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.ore> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:47 PM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.or2> Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, Before this proposal conies back to the Planning Coninrission, I'd suggest that staff address: 1. Whether this is a "variation" or an "exception" and why. Each requires different findings. 2. Whether this proposal can support the required findings of County Code $ W-203.1(11) (2) (if a variation) or $ 1.1-203.1(B) (3) (if an exception). Though certain findings are required, I didn't see them addressed in the current staff report Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: Timis email may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product, or other confidential information. It is upended only for the designated recipient. Ifyou receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.ore> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:35 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.ore>; Planning Commission<PlannineCommission@albemarle.org Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Tim, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception Understood. I'll let the Planning Commission know about the deferral request. I'll also begin contacting citizens who have entailed or called me. Thank you Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development (County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 15 From: tmiller@meridianwbe.com <tmiller@meridianwbe.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:29 AM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, This is to request a deferral so that I can submit the revised plan in order to accommodate the complaints from the homeowners. Thanks, Timothy Miller, P.E., L.S. Principal 434-882-0121 www.meridianwbe.com Meridian Planning Group From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.ore> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:26 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception From: Christopher Perez Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:32 PM To: Planning Commission<PlanningCommission@albemarle.ore> Cc: Tim Miller <meridianwbe@amail.com>; Daniel Greene <dzreene@albemarle.org>; inchankwon@email.com: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.ore>; Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.ore>; junghi chae <lunehichae@vahoo.com> Subject: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception Planning Commissioners, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception The above referenced special exception is currently scheduled for the August 131 Planning Commission meeting. I received the attached signed petition from some of the residents of the Montgomery Ridge neighborhood expressing opposition to the current request to vary the road standards. Additionally, I received the attached written communication from 2 residents of the neighborhood. Please contact me if you have any questions. Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development ICounty of Albemarle, Virginia 16 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 17 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Megan Nedostup Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 3:34 PM To: Patricia Saternye; Tim Padalino; Andy Reitelbach; Mariah Gleason; Tori Kanellopoulos Cc: Christopher Perez; David Benish Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Anyone recently do a sidewalk or landscape strip report for the PC and make findings in 14-203.1? 1 haven't, but am not sure if this has come up again. I am guessing if legal is saying that we need to make the findings, then we need to make the findings, but wanted to check with you all to see if anyone has had one recently. Thanks, Megan Nedostup, AICP (pronounced nuh-DAHST-up) Principal Planner Community Development Department Planning Services ph: 434.296.5832 ext. 3004 From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 3:36 PM To: Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org> Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Megan, The County Attorney provided feedback on the Montgomery Ridge staff report (see below) in which he is requesting that staff make the findings listed in Section 14-203.1 when the applicant resubmits and I write an updated report, however, this is not our standard practice when reviewing sidewalk and landscape strip variations. Truly we never make these findings on any of these requests but instead only make reference to Section 14-203.1, our true analysis comes from Section 14-422 related to the request. This has come up numerous times in the past with new planners, however, we merely tell the reviewers to stick with our standard practice. I believe I can make the fmding for a variation under l$ 14-203. 1 (B)(2) with this proposal, but this would be a change in how we process these requests. How do you want me to proceed moving forward & on future requests like this? Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development ICounty of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 § 14-203.1(B)(2) Findings required for a variation. The agent or the commission may approve a request for a variation to substitute a required improvement upon finding that because of an unusual situation, the subdivider's substitution of a technique, design or materials of comparable quality from that required by the applicable regulation results in an improvement that substantially satisfies the overall purposes of this chapter in a manner equal to or exceeding the desired effects of the requirement in the applicable regulation. § 14-203 413)(3) Findings required for an exception. The agent or the commission may approve a request for an exception from any requirement of the applicable regulation upon finding that (it because of an unusual situation, including but not limited to, the unusual size, topography, shape of the site or the location ofthe site; or (it) when strict adherence to the requirements would result in substantial injustice or hardship by, including but not limited to, resulting in the significant degradation of the site or to adjacent properties, causing a detriment to the public health, safety or welfare, or by inhibiting the orderly development of the area or the application of sound engineering practices. From: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 2:47 PM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.ore> 18 Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, Before this proposal conies back to the Planning Conmrission, I'd suggest that staff address: 1. Whether this is a "variation" or an "exception" and why. Each requires different findings. 2. Whether this proposal can support the required findings of County Code S 14-203.1(B) (2) (if a variation) or $ 14-203.1(B) (3) (if an exception). Though certain findings are required, I didn't see them addressed in the current staff report Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney- lieut privileged inforntation, privileged work product, or other confidential fidomtatiou. It is untended only for the designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me slut you have received this by mistake. T1unk you. From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.ore> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:35 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Cc: David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.ore>; Planning Commission<PlannineCommission@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Tim, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception Understood. I'll let the Planning Commission know about the deferral request. I'll also begin contacting citizens who have emaded or called me. Thank you Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development (County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 From: tmiller@meridianwbe.com <tmiller@meridianwbe.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:29 AM To: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision - Phase 4 - Special Exception Chris, This is to request a deferral so that I can submit the revised plan in order to accommodate the complaints from the homeowners. Thanks, Timothy Miller, P.E., L.S. Principal 434-882-0121 19 www.meridianwbe.com Meridian Planning Group From: Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:26 AM To: tmiller@meridianwbe.com Subject: FW: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception From: Christopher Perez Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2019 2:32 PM To: Planning Commission <Plannin(;Commission@albemarle.org> Cc: Tim Miller <meridianwbe@gmail.com>; Daniel Greene <dareene@albemarle.ora>; inchankwon@amail.com; David Benish <DBENISH@albemarle.org>; Megan Nedostup <mnedostup@albemarle.org>; junghi chae <lunehichae@vahoo.com> Subject: Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception Planning Commissioners, RE: SUB2019-85 Montgomery Ridge Subdivision — Phase 4 — Special Exception The above referenced special exception is currently scheduled for the August 13v' Planning Commission meeting. I received the attached signed petition from some of the residents of the Montgomery Ridge neighborhood expressing opposition to the current request to vary the road standards. Additionally, I received the attached written communication from 2 residents of the neighborhood. Please contact me if you have any questions. Christopher Perez I Senior Planner Department of Community Development lCounty of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3443 20 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Tom Albro <TomAlbro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:47 PM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Thanks Paty. I appreciate the update, and look forward to any further developments you can share with me. Tom Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albro(a)tremblaysmith.com This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:36 PM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com>; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-137 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Mr. Albro, Thank you for reaching out. The applicant deferred during or soon after the SRC meeting. Because of the deferral I had not finalized the comments. I apologize for not contacting you with that information at that time. I have just been contacted by their consultant, the first time since the deferral, but I have not chatted with them yet. I think they want to discuss the private versus public road options. Thanks, 21 Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development i or � S a��RUIN�* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 1:19 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; rkine@granvillecapitalinc.com Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-137 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Good afternoon Paty. Would you kindly update me on the status of this application? Thanks- Tom Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albro(rDtremblaysmith.com This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:53 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com>; rkine@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots Dl-137 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request 22 Sorry for the late notice, but I was just informed that the applicant no longer plans to have a representative at the SRC meeting. I know with such little notice you will likely not get this in time to choose not to attend after all. I apologize for any inconvenience and will be at the meeting even if the applicant is not. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a�/R41N��y0{ A(u. =4 i R Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:21 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com: rkins@eranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrineton@email.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To All, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development r� Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com: rking@eranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic 23 Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development {or r v 'a �� 6 M Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 24 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Tom Albro <TomAlbro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 1:19 PM To: Patricia Saternye; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Good afternoon Paty. Would you kindly update me on the status of this application? Thanks- Tom Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albro(a�tremblaysmith.com This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:53 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com>; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-137 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Sorry for the late notice, but I was just informed that the applicant no longer plans to have a representative at the SRC meeting. I know with such little notice you will likely not get this in time to choose not to attend after all. I apologize for any inconvenience and will be at the meeting even if the applicant is not. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 25 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ors www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:21 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rkins@sranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrinston@smail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To All, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development A/6.. 4 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ors www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rkins@sranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrinston@smail.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. 26 Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a�/R41N��y0{ A(u. =4 i R Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 27 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Bill Fritz Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 9:26 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: Critical Slopes Attachments: critical slopes decca lane.docx You can give the applicant this. You may want to wait until after the preap in case there is anything to add that the applicant should address. William D. Fritz, AICP Development Process Manager/Ombudsman 434-296-5823 ext3242 28 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Tom Albro <TomAlbro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:57 AM To: Patricia Saternye Cc: rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller, Frederic Catlin; Edward Carrington Subject: Re: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Thanks Paty. I'm here. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> wrote: Sorry for the late notice, but I was just informed that the applicant no longer plans to have a representative at the SRC meeting. I know with such little notice you will likely not get this in time to choose not to attend after all. I apologize for any inconvenience and will be at the meeting even if the applicant is not. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development <image001.gif> Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(c@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:21 AM To: TomAlbro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To All, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development <image001.gif> Albemarle County 29 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rkina@eranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edwa rd.ca rrineton @ema i I.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development <image001.gif> Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.or� 30 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:53 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller; Frederic Catlin; Edward Carrington Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Sorry for the late notice, but I was just informed that the applicant no longer plans to have a representative at the SRC meeting. I know with such little notice you will likely not get this in time to choose not to attend after all. I apologize for any inconvenience and will be at the meeting even if the applicant is not. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.orR www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:21 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To Al I, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development MEMO Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road 31 Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@eranvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrineton@email.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot DI-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ore 32 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: David lames Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 9:04 AM To: Patricia Saternye Cc: Frank Pohl Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 - private road request Paty, I'm going to throw in this section to the PVT review: 14-410 F. Principal means of access to subdivision. The principal means of access to a subdivision shall be either a public street or a private street. The principal means of access shall conform, in the case of a public street, to Virginia Department of Transportation standards, or, in the case of a private street, to the standards of the county as set forth in section 14-412, throughout the street's length, including any distance between the boundary of the subdivision and any existing public street. If discharge water of a twenty-five (25) year storm could be reasonably anticipated to inundate, block, destroy or otherwise obstruct a principal means of access to a residential subdivision, the following shall also apply: 1. The principal means of access shall be designed and constructed so as to provide unobstructed access at the time of flooding; and/or 2. An alternative means of access which is not subject to inundation, blockage, destruction or obstruction, and which is accessible from each lot within the subdivision shall be constructed. -David From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 5:50 PM To: David James <djames2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 - private road request David & Frank, One thing I forgot to ask about is at what point in the road could they decrease down to the private street standard for 3 to 5 lots. Wouldn't that be valid the closer they get to the cul-de-sac? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development dVy Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors 33 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 8:21 AM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller; Frederic Catlin; Edward Carrington Subject: RE: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Attachments: SUB2019-42 DRAFT SRC Comments all reviewers 5-9-2019.pdf To All, Attached please find the complete DRAFT set of comments. What I sent you last night accidentally did not include the comments from the other reviewers. I apologize for the oversight. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.ora www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller <sara@timbercreek.farm>; Frederic Catlin <fredcatlin@hotmail.com>; Edward Carrington <edward.carrington@gmail.com> Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot DI-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye 34 Senior Planner Community Development {o+ -a��RmM* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 35 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 6:24 PM To: Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com; rking@granvillecapitalinc.com; Sara Miller; Frederic Catlin; Edward Carrington Subject: SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request Attachments: SUB2019-42 Site Plan SRC UPDATED Cover and DRAFT comments 5-8-2019d.pdf To all, You are getting this email because you have shown interest in the SUB2019-42 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat and Private Street Request submission. Thank you for your interest in the project. Attached please find the DRAFT comments for SUB2019-42 Lot DI-D7 preliminary plat and private street request. Please note, as I think I have mentioned to you all individually, these are draft comments. Modifications and additions may be made before they are finalized. I think I am sending this to all people who have contacted me, but if you know of someone I have inadvertently left out please feel free to forward it to them. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development _` �`�/R41e�*` Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 36 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 5:50 PM To: David lames; Frank Pohl Subject: SUB2019-42 Lot D1-D7 - private road request David & Frank, One thing I forgot to ask about is at what point in the road could they decrease down to the private street standard for 3 to 5 lots. Wouldn't that be valid the closer they get to the cul-de-sac? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development .m �;4 U �/Rp Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 37 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:36 PM To: Tom Albro Cc: Ruffin King Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 I will have the DRAFT version distributed by email before I leave tonight. You are on my list of people to include. Thanks for touching base again. Please note that as DRAFT comments they will be rough and things could still be added, modified and removed if necessary before they are finalized. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development nF ;4 L I R..i.. Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 12:34 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Cc: Ruffin King <rking@granvillecapitalinc.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Good afternoon Paty. Any chance the draft comments will be available prior to tomorrow's SRC meeting? If they are, would you please email them to me? Many thanks- Tom From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 10:31 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Cc: Ruffin King <rking@granvillecapitalinc.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 38 Mr. Albro, I apologize, but the DRAFT comments are not ready today and I am uncertain exactly when they will be available. However, once they are available I can email you a copy. On rare occasions the draft comments are not ready until the day of the Site Review Committee (SRC) meeting. In those cases I then bring copies of the comment to the meeting for interested attendees. We do not need to know the names of those who wish to attend ahead of time. However, I will have a sign in sheet at the meeting for those people who would like to be kept in the communication loop on the project. The SRC meetings are an informal meeting. No minutes are taken, and no official records is kept. It is instead a chance for the applicant to ask the reviewer questions about the DRAFT comments, prior to them being finalized. During the meeting, after the applicant and reviewers have asked any questions they have, there will be an opportunity for informal questions from members of the community. Depending on the number of community members who attend there may not be sufficient time for each community member to speak. So, if you think there may be enough neighbors who will be interested in asking questions, or making statements, it might be helpful to have one person designated to ask those questions. I've attached the agenda for the meeting. You will see that there are 4 other projects listed to discussion, and SUB2019-42 is the last on the agenda. Prior to receiving any of the draft comments (mentioned above), do you have any questions you would like to forward to me? I will likely not be able to answer them before the meeting, but it will give me an opportunity to research them just in case they are circumstances/conditions that I would normally not be reviewing. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development -r` -,Y/Rc1e1�* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 10:10 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Cc: Ruffin King <rking@granvillecapitalinc.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Good morning Paty. According to your April 19 letter to the adjoining landowners, today is the day Site Review comments will be available. Will they be available today, and if so, how may 1 obtain them? 39 Also, the Site Review Committee is scheduled to meet at 10 am on Thursday May 9. I and other property owners in Far Hills wish to attend that meeting. Do you need the names of the persons who will attend? Will this be the landowners' opportunity to state their concerns about the proposed development? Thanks- Tom From: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemark.ors> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:52 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Mr. Albro, Attached please find the PDF of the submission for SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat. I've also attached the other two items submitted (application and private street request). I can email you the comments when they are available. However, they are not always ready by the time that is specified in that letter because of our current review load. It is sometimes on the day of the actual SRC meeting (May 9") at the meeting. In either case, those are only draft comments that may be changed or modified after the SRC meeting date. One reason for the SRC meeting is to give the applicant a chance for questions and clarifications before the comments are finalized. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development r y, F, V Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:25 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Good morning Paty and thank you for your voice message. Please email me the pdf of the plat that has been submitted for this project. I assume the plat is the only document currently on file with the county related to this project. If I'm wrong and there are additional documents, I would be grateful if you would email them to me as well. 0 Your letter to the abutting property owners states the Site Review comments will be available May 6. How can I obtain those comments when they're available? Thank you for your assistance. Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albroaatremblaysmith.com This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. 41 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Tom Albro <TomAlbro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:34 PM To: Patricia Saternye Cc: Ruffin King Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Good afternoon Paty. Any chance the draft comments will be available prior to tomorrow's SRC meeting? If they are, would you please email them to me? Many thanks- Tom From: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Sent: Monday, May 6, 2019 10:31 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Cc: Ruffin King <rking@granvillecapitalinc.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-D7 Mr. Albro, I apologize, but the DRAFT comments are not ready today and I am uncertain exactly when they will be available. However, once they are available I can email you a copy. On rare occasions the draft comments are not ready until the day of the Site Review Committee (SRC) meeting. In those cases I then bring copies of the comment to the meeting for interested attendees. We do not need to know the names of those who wish to attend ahead of time. However, I will have a sign in sheet at the meeting for those people who would like to be kept in the communication loop on the project. The SRC meetings are an informal meeting. No minutes are taken, and no official records is kept. It is instead a chance for the applicant to ask the reviewer questions about the DRAFT comments, prior to them being finalized. During the meeting, after the applicant and reviewers have asked any questions they have, there will be an opportunity for informal questions from members of the community. Depending on the number of community members who attend there may not be sufficient time for each community member to speak. So, if you think there may be enough neighbors who will be interested in asking questions, or making statements, it might be helpful to have one person designated to ask those questions. I've attached the agenda for the meeting. You will see that there are 4 other projects listed to discussion, and SUB2019-42 is the last on the agenda. Prior to receiving any of the draft comments (mentioned above), do you have any questions you would like to forward to me? I will likely not be able to answer them before the meeting, but it will give me an opportunity to research them just in case they are circumstances/conditions that I would normally not be reviewing. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 42 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 10:10 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Cc: Ruffin King <rkins@aranvillecapitalinc.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-137 Good morning Paty. According to your April 19 letter to the adjoining landowners, today is the day Site Review comments will be available. Will they be available today, and if so, how may I obtain them? Also, the Site Review Committee is scheduled to meet at 10 am on Thursday May 9. I and other property owners in Far Hills wish to attend that meeting. Do you need the names of the persons who will attend? Will this be the landowners' opportunity to state their concerns about the proposed development? Thanks- Tom From: Patricia Saternye <psatemye@albemark.ora> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:52 AM To: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Subject: RE: Project SUB201900042 Lots D1-137 Mr. Albro, Attached please find the PDF of the submission for SUB201900042 Lots DI-D7 Preliminary Subdivision Plat. I've also attached the other two items submitted (application and private street request). I can email you the comments when they are available. However, they are not always ready by the time that is specified in that letter because of our current review load. It is sometimes on the day of the actual SRC meeting (May 9'h) at the meeting. In either case, those are only draft comments that may be changed or modified after the SRC meeting date. One reason for the SRC meeting is to give the applicant a chance for questions and clarifications before the comments are finalized. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 43 Lr- Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Tom Albro <Tom.Albro@tremblaysmith.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:25 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: Project SUB201900042 Lots DI-D7 Good morning Paty and thank you for your voice message. Please email me the pdf of the plat that has been submitted for this project. I assume the plat is the only document currently on file with the county related to this project. If I'm wrong and there are additional documents, I would be grateful if you would email them to me as well. Your letter to the abutting property owners states the Site Review comments will be available May 6. How can I obtain those comments when they're available? Thank you for your assistance. Thomas E. Albro, Esquire Tremblay & Smith, PLLC 105-109 East High Street Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 Phone (434)977-4455 Facsimile (434)979-1221 Email: tom.albro(a)tremblaysmith.com Coo This message is intended only for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. It is PRIVILEGED and CONFIDENTIAL. Any dissemination, distribution, copying, or use of this message or any of its contents, other than by the person(s) to whom it is addressed, is prohibited and may constitute a BREACH OF CIVIL OR CRIMINAL LAW. If this message has been delivered to you in error, please delete the message from your system and contact the sender by reply e-mail or collect telephone call (434-977-4455 in the U.S.) as soon as possible. Thank you. M Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 3:04 PM To: Marsha Alley Subject: SRC Legal Ads Marsha, My legal adds for the following are up on County View: • SUB201900042 • SDP201900018 (electronic review) It has been a while since I had an SRC item that was electronic review. Please just let me know if the format I used to designate that is what is currently being used or has changed. Thanks ®, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Marsha Alley Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:25 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SRC Items to be scanned Your link for the digital submittal! From: James H. Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:23 PM To: Marsha Alley <malley3@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Yep I put it in your last message @ SDP201900018 Out Building Addition -Major Digital. JMH From: Marsha Alley <malley3@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:22 PM 45 To: James H. Smith <ismith@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned James, I didn't see a link for the electronic one .... Did I miss it? Marsha From: James H. Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:12 PM To: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Theres the link for the electronic one if you needed it. JMH From: James H. Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:10 PM To: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Got it thanks Marsha! JMH From: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:47 AM To: James H. Smith <ismith@albemarle.org> Cc: Paul Bjornsen <pbiornsen@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Audrey Blecha <ablecha@albemarle.org>; Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org>; Tim Padalino <tpadalino@albemarlg.org>; Christopher Perez <cperez@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Hi everyone! See links below! Hi James! Is this what you meant by change the unknown? See updates below. Also, Paty has a digital submittal for SDP201900018 Out Building Addition -Major Digital. Let me know if you need something else from me. Thanks! Marsha From: James H. Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:37 AM To: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Cc: Paul Bjornsen <pbiornsen@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Audrey Blecha <ablecha@albemarle.org>; Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Hi Marsha, 0 Here are the SRC Item links: Andy Reitelbach - SDP201900019 - 1205 CROZET AVE. - INITIAL Tim Padalino - SDP201900017 - WILLOW GLEN - MAJOR Chris Perez - SDP201900014 - GEORGETOWN HYDRAULIC PROFESSIONAL OFFICES - INITIAL Paty Saternye - SUB201900042 - Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Cheers, From: James H. Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:37 AM To: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.or6> Cc: Paul Bjornsen <pbiornsen@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psatemye@albemarle.org>; Audrey Blecha <ablecha@albemarle.ore>; Andy Reitelbach <mreitelbach@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SRC Items to be scanned Hi Marsha, Here are the SRC Item links: Andy Reitelbach - SDP201900019 - 1205 CROZET AVE. - INITIAL Unknown - SDP201900017 - WILLOW GLEN - MAJOR Unknown - SDP201900014 - GEORGETOWN HYDRAULIC PROFESSIONAL OFFICES - INITIAL Paty Saternye - SUB201900042 - Lots D1-D7 Preliminary Cheers, James Howard -Smith, Information Services Records and Imaging Technician Community Development - Alhemarle Cmmlr, VA 434.2%.5832 ext. 3823 ISml1h(aalhemarle.nru From: Marsha Alley <mallev3@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:16 AM To: James H. Smith <jsmith@albemarle.ore> Subject: SRC Items to be scanned Hi James! The SRC items are in the cart near my office ready to be scanned. Thankyou! Marsha Alley Community Development Assistant - Zoning 401 McIntire Road, North Wing Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-5832 ext. 3417 47 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 2:06 PM To: Scott Clark; Andy Herrick Cc: Richard DeLoria; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Thanks 0. They still haven't provided the new submission yet, so the April meeting will likely be in plenty of time. Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development y or � r4 u . `�41We1�*i Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 2:03 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) I'm sorry— I missed this due to my sick time. I'll put an item on my calendar to mention this at the April meeting. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:25 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org> Cc: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ore>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ(a@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, Thanks. Scott, Can you put it on the ACEA agenda? Thanks, 48 Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development i or � S a��RUINn* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:23 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psatemye@albemarle.org> Cc: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Paty, OK. If there's no indication of why the applicant couldn't do as proposed, the deed language and sequence apparently allow it. I'd suggest alerting the ACEA, perhaps at this week's meeting, to avoid any surprises. Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorneyrlient privileged information, privileged work product, or other ronfidential information. It is intended only for the designated mcipienL If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. T7nank you. From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:29 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Andy, I think where it left off, maybe 10 months ago, during the preapp was that he was going to provide us some more information and I do not have a record of where he did so. There was another preapp that was supposed to happen in 12/2018 but was canceled due to illness of the applicant. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 49 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:50 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Ani I mussing something? Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged infourmation, privileged work product, or other confidential information. It is intended only for die designated recipient If you receive dus message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete dus message immediately and notify me drat you have received this by mistake. Ttradc you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.ore> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be 50 used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries •. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 51 From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 0 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.orR www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, 52 Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 04. Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 53 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 2:03 PM To: Patricia Saternye; Andy Herrick Cc: Richard DeLoria; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) I'm sorry— I missed this due to my sick time. I'll put an item on my calendar to mention this at the April meeting. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:25 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org> Cc: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, Thanks. Scott, Can you put it on the ACEA agenda? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development o� a` d;., Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:23 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Cc: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots Dl-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Paty, 54 OK. If there's no indication of why the applicant couldn't do as proposed, the deed language and sequence apparently allow it. I'd suggest alerting the ACFA, perhaps at this week's meeting, to avoid any surprises. Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged ufformation, privileged work product or other confidential information. It is untended only for the designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately mud notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:29 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Andy, I think where it left off, maybe 10 months ago, during the preapp was that he was going to provide us some more information and I do not have a record of where he did so. There was another preapp that was supposed to happen in 12/2018 but was canceled due to illness of the applicant. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:50 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Ani I mussing something? Thanks. 55 Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attomeyrlient privileged unfan ation, privileged work product. or other confidential information. It is untended only for the designated recipienL If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. T7 ank you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.ore> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So —while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) 56 No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development es. Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, 57 Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a�/R41N��yO{ A(u. =4 i R Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ora>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 58 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.ore 59 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:25 AM To: Andy Herrick Cc: Scott Clark; Richard DeLoria; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, Thanks. Scott, Can you put it on the ACEA agenda? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development of a` d;., Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:23 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Cc: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Paty, OK. If there's no indication of why the applicant couldn't do as proposed, the deed language and sequence apparently allow it. I'd suggest alerting the ACEA, perhaps at this week's meeting, to avoid any surprises. Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This eutail may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product. or other confidential information. It is untended only for the designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake.'nnadc you. 60 From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:29 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, I think where it left off, maybe 10 months ago, during the preapp was that he was going to provide us some more information and I do not have a record of where he did so. There was another preapp that was supposed to happen in 12/2018 but was canceled due to illness of the applicant. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development o* u `�tInIM�*i Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:50 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat. However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Am I mussing something? Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attomeyclieut privileged ufformation, privileged work product or other confidential information. It is untended only for the designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM 61 To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 41. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. 62 However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development F e"7 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 63 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ora www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ore> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 01114,l Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors 64 65 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Andy Herrick Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:23 AM To: Patricia Saternye Cc: Scott Clark; Richard DeLoria; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Paty, OK. If there's no indication of why the applicant couldn't do as proposed, the deed language and sequence apparently allow it. I'd suggest alerting the ACEA, perhaps at this week's meeting, to avoid any surprises. Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged ufformation, privileged work product, or other confidential utfomration. It is untended only for die designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete dais message immediately and notify me drat you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:29 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, I think where it left off, maybe 10 months ago, during the preapp was that he was going to provide us some more information and I do not have a record of where he did so. There was another preapp that was supposed to happen in 12/2018 but was canceled due to illness of the applicant. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development v t u u, Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:50 AM 66 To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat. However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Am I mussing something? Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: T1tis email may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product or other confidential hnfomhation. It is untended only for die designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So —while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 67 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. 68 I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development „m r` v Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. 69 So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a of ;4 u �,�h41M�*I� Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.or� 70 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:29 AM To: Andy Herrick; Scott Clark Cc: Richard DeLoria; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy, I think where it left off, maybe 10 months ago, during the preapp was that he was going to provide us some more information and I do not have a record of where he did so. There was another preapp that was supposed to happen in 12/2018 but was canceled due to illness of the applicant. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.ora www.albemarle.org From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 8:S0 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Cc: Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org>; Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albema rle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat. However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Am I mussing something? Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney 71 Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged information, privileged work product, or other confidential itnfomnation. It is untended only For the designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org ; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.ore> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.or>?> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 41. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. 72 He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development L(L Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. 73 Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development u Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ore> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development y or � =4 u .\�/1141e1d�i Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road 74 Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.org 75 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Andy Herrick Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 8:50 AM To: Scott Clark Cc: Richard DeLoria; Patricia Saternye; Bill Fritz Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, I agree with your four conclusions below. I think it particularly significant that the Far Hills declaration and plat (at DB 1372/285) precedes the initial RPD deed of easement (at DB 1372/323). Therefore, unless provided otherwise elsewhere, the RPD easement is generally subject to the prior recorded plat. However, before reaching a final conclusion, I'm curious: What led last year's preapp conference to conclude that "he couldn't do it"? Am I mussing something? Thanks. Andy Herrick Deputy County Attorney Notice: This email may contain attorney -client privileged i4ormation, privileged work product or other confidential information. It is intended only for die designated recipient. If you receive this message and are not a designated recipient you are requested to delete this message immediately and notify me that you have received this by mistake. Thank you. From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. 76 (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries •. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM 77 To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <SclarkPalbemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 4„w r •a�/RGIM* . Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 78 My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 79 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 3A9 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Attachments: SUB201800066_June_26_Private Street request justification and exhibits - Copy.pdf, SUB2011-49 private street request letter2010-6-16.pdf Rob, Thank you for your patience. Here is some information in reference to your future submission: • There is no fee for a private street request when it is filed with a subdivision plat, which you are doing. So you have no fee for that part of your submission. As mentioned in a previous email, later on in the process engineering will require a "road plan" and that does have its own fee and a separate submission. • I've chatted with the other planners and they also confirmed that in the specific circumstance of this lot that seeing if VDOT would grant a waiver for interconnectivity, so a public street could be built without connecting through the parcel, was not a necessary step in County staff determining if we can support a private street. So, my previous question about any communication you or you client has had with VDOT is no longer needed. This is a special case. However, please note that if your justification is a reduced degradation to the environment, because of the difference between a private and public street, then public and private road exhibits showing the difference is necessary. • Staff support will be determined after you submit the request, justification, and required material on the road itself. With this in mind I've attached two examples of private street requests submitted in the past. Please note that the one that does not show the road design, the information that was required for the road design was part of the preliminary plat, including the proposed grading. • It appears from your last submission (rural) that Lot D-2 would have no access or frontage. Please ensure that all lots will meet all requirements. • Please note that "building sites must be rectangular" as specified in the subdivision ordinance. Please ensure you go other that section about the requirements of the building sites. • As you probably know more information is required is a "subdivision" plat versus a "rural subdivision" plat. So please ensure the plat is revised as necessary to include all of the required information for the new submission. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a=t Cu •a�/Rcle+�*I Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 80 From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:52 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Sorry, I should have said your fees were correct except in reference to the private street. Also, the road plan will be required at a later stage whether it is a private or a public road. However, you don't pay a fee for that until later in the process. I still will get the private street request fee information to you in a future email. I am however, also pulling together some examples for you so that when you do submit the request it will be more complete. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development AAWL ARM 7"11 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:36 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, One thing I already know is that a "Road Plan" is not the fee or the process at this stage. That comes later, assuming the planning commission will approve the private street. I have a question for you in reference to the road and your processes so far though. Have you or your client had any communication with VDOT in reference to getting waivers for any of their requirements. Or has the possibility of a public road not been looked into? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a of ;4 a' u �,�h41M�*I� Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 81 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.orB www.albemarle.ora From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:55 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(c@albemarle.or¢> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Heiiol' Paty, Thinks for looking into this for us. Have a great evening. M. -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternve Date: 3/5/2019 15:33:58 To: rob(cDkhals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal M You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. Thanks, Patv Saternve 82 Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob(a)khals.net <rob(a)khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a)-albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hew! Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app r I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: 83 Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now witl Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. Ao06 eamhr%K." Survey Project Manager KI -.i&Y 1 Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob(cDkhals.net -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye 84 Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(a)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 9 Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by ema the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(aD_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 85 O FREE Animations for your email Click Here! f FREE Animations for your email Click Here! RE Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:02 PM To: Scott Clark Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Thank you Scott! That all is wonderful information. I look forward to Andy's response. Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. 87 (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So —while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development *1714w*1.1 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM M To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <SclarkPalbemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 4„w r •a�/RGIM* . Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 89 My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 90 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:02 PM To: Scott Clark Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Thank you Scott! That all is wonderful information. I look forward to Andy's response. Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:47 AM To: Andy Herrick <aherrick@albemarle.org>; Richard DeLoria <rdeloria@albemarle.org> Cc: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org>; Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. 91 (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So —while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development *1714w*1.1 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM 92 To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <SclarkPalbemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 4„w r •a�/RGIM* . Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 93 My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 94 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11A8 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) The easement -interpretation issue is important enough that I'd rather jump it now (and just did lb ) From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:57 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) I don't know if there is any reason to bring Andy into it until they submit under the new project. But if you think it is good to get the answer now, since they plan to do so shortly, it never hurts to get it early. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:07 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots Dl-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) OK —I understand, but I can't really remember the meeting; my memory is terrible these days. I'll look up the easement and then write to Andy and copy you in just a minute. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM 95 To: Scott Clark <Sclark(c@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development s Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ora From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) 96 Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development e` y, F, V Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ora>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 97 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.ore 98 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11A8 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) The easement -interpretation issue is important enough that I'd rather jump it now (and just did lb ) From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:57 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) I don't know if there is any reason to bring Andy into it until they submit under the new project. But if you think it is good to get the answer now, since they plan to do so shortly, it never hurts to get it early. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:07 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots Dl-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) OK —I understand, but I can't really remember the meeting; my memory is terrible these days. I'll look up the easement and then write to Andy and copy you in just a minute. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM m To: Scott Clark <Sclark(c@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development s Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ora From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) 100 Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development e` y, F, V Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ora>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 101 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.ore 102 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11A7 AM To: Andy Herrick; Richard DeLoria Cc: Patricia Saternye; Bill Fritz Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Attachments: Far Hills 1 Amended Deed.pdf Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) 103 No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development *1714w*1.1 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ora From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 104 They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development F e"7 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 105 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.ore 106 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 11A7 AM To: Andy Herrick; Richard DeLoria Cc: Patricia Saternye; Bill Fritz Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Attachments: Far Hills 1 Amended Deed.pdf Andy and Richie— Paty is awaiting a plat from an applicant who is planning to show access through TMP 59-27X. That parcel is "Preservation Tract 1" of the "Far Hills" RPD, which dates back to 1993. The original plat for this subdivision (see Deed Book 1372 Pg 320) shows a 50-foot access easement through this preservation tract, but does not give a deed reference to suggest that it pre -dated this plat. I'm assuming that that means the easement was established by this plat and the associated documents. (The RPD conservation easement was recorded immediately *after* the plat.) As this was an RPD, Planning Commission approval of the design was required, and the access easement over this preservation tract was shown on the plat approved by the PC. The most recent deed for this property (attached; amended for a reason appearing to have nothing to do with this road) does not permit dwellings, and so does not mention whether improvements typically allowed for residential development (for this property or otherwise) are permitted. However, it exempts "Construction of permitted buildings and connecting private roads" from the restrictions on grading, blasting, etc. I just talked to Bill, who was the planner on this project 26 years ago, and he recalls that the expectation was that the road through the tract would eventually be used to connect to adjacent properties. There's no documentation in the easement file of any discussion of this or any other specific restriction in the deed. (As an aside, and as I discussed with Bill, while splitting a preservation tract with a road is something we probably wouldn't support today, there are a few older RPDs out there that are designed like this.) So — while the easement language isn't as detailed as we might like, my understanding is that: 1. An access easement through this preservation tract was approved by the PC as part of the RPD design. 2. The deed permits grading and earth -moving for "connecting private roads." 3. So, as long as the proposed road is a private road, and as long as it stays within the 50-foot easement shown in the design approved by the PC, it is permitted under the deed. 4. (As an aside, this only affects the preservation tract, and says nothing about any other lots in Far Hills affected by the new road.) If you could confirm that this sounds correct, or let me know if you need more information, I'd appreciate it. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) 107 No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development *1714w*1.1 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ora From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 108 They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development F e"7 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 109 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.ore 110 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:57 AM To: Scott Clark Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) I don't know if there is any reason to bring Andy into it until they submit under the new project. But if you think it is good to get the answer now, since they plan to do so shortly, it never hurts to get it early. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Z U ,�/1141M�T•: Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:07 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) OK —I understand, but I can't really remember the meeting; my memory is terrible these days. I'll look up the easement and then write to Andy and copy you in just a minute. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots Dl-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. 111 When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development e` y, F, V Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <paaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, 112 Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a` :a��R41eh*` Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ(c@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development „m r .,�hclM* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 113 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ora 114 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:56 AM To: Scott Clark Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) They are proposing a private road. However, I don't know if staff will support it being a private road. Also, with as many lots that would be on that road the private road standard might be almost the same as a public road anyway. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.orR From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Paty— Are they proposing to make the road across the preservation tract a public road or a private road? Thanks! --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-137 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. 115 He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development L(L Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. 116 Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development u Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ore> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development y or � =4 u .\�/1141e1d�i Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road 117 Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.or¢ www.albemarle.org 118 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Paty— Are they proposing to make the road across the preservation tract a public road or a private road? Thanks! --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a of ;4 u �,�h41M�*I� Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 119 From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ora> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 0 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.orR www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.ors> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, 120 Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 04. Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 121 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 10:07 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) OK —I understand, but I can't really remember the meeting; my memory is terrible these days. I'll look up the easement and then write to Andy and copy you in just a minute. --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development y or� �r Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternyepsaternye @a l bema rle.o rg www.albemarle.oro From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM 122 To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TM P 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <SclarkPalbemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 4„w r •a�/RGIM* . Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? 123 My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 124 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 9:01 AM To: Scott Clark Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) No worries 0. Thanks for checking. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure. He thinks he can use the road through the adjoining parcel with the conservation easement (TMP59-27X) as access to the new lots he is proposing. When he resubmits under the correct submission type I will likely pull you into the review (unless you don't see it as needed/appropriate) because it was my recollection the use of that road (Yellowwood Drive) for new lots was a problem because of the conservation easement. However, the preapp where that discussion happened was almost a year ago. I thought we left it off that the County thought he couldn't do it and he was going to get with his lawyers to try to show that we were incorrect. I have no record of it going beyond that. Now he is submitting plats using that road as if it is not a problem. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development ?t` or Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... 125 --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development F e"7 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. 126 FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development O"o-'O' Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors 127 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Scott Clark Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 8:50 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Hi, Paty— My apologies for missing your previous message. I've searched through my e-mail, and I don't see anything from Mr. Hughes on this or any other topic in that time frame. I also don't recall any phone conversations with him. Sorry about that... --Scott From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development y Ot A Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.orR From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM 128 To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development r� Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ors 129 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:48 PM To: Scott Clark Subject: FW: SUB2019-29 Lots D1-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Scott, Have you had an opportunity to check any communication you may have had with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? They are getting ready to resubmit under the correct application and I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any communication on the subject of a road to access new lots through the conservation parcel. Please see below. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development nF L ,1 Z Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ore From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:02 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org>; Scott Clark <Sclark@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2019-29 Lots DI-D7 previously referred to as a 3 lot subdivision off of Catlin Road (TMP 43-18D) Bill & Scott, Your answer may very well be "No" to this, but have you had any communication with Kirk Hughes since 5/7/2018 in reference to TMP 43-18D (off of Catlin Road and Yellow Wood Drive)? My recollection from the Preapplication meeting (Preapp2018-58) all the way back in May was that "we" thought they could not use the road (Yellow Wood Drive) through the property with the conservation easement on it (TMP 59-27X) for access to the subdivision of TMP 43-18D. There was also a preapp scheduled in 12/2018, but it was canceled because of sickness of applicant. So the only one that happened was on 5/7/18. Mr. Hughes may have communicated with one or both of you individually, Scott because of the conservation easement and Bill because of your history. So, I just wanted to see if there is any more recent info either of you might have that I don't. 130 I'm also having trouble finding any email trails I might have had no it myself. So if I was copied on any communication you may have had with Mr. Hughes please don't assume I already have it. FYI, his current application (SUB2019-29) is being withdrawn because it is the wrong type of application. So I don't need the information ASAP. If you could just let me know once you have a moment to look into it. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development a�/R41N��y0{ A(u. =4 i R Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors 131 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:52 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Sorry, I should have said your fees were correct except in reference to the private street. Also, the road plan will be required at a later stage whether it is a private or a public road. However, you don't pay a fee for that until later in the process. I still will get the private street request fee information to you in a future email. I am however, also pulling together some examples for you so that when you do submit the request it will be more complete. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development x` u Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:36 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, One thing I already know is that a "Road Plan" is not the fee or the process at this stage. That comes later, assuming the planning commission will approve the private street. I have a question for you in reference to the road and your processes so far though. Have you or your client had any communication with VDOT in reference to getting waivers for any of their requirements. Or has the possibility of a public road not been looked into? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 132 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:55 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Thinks for looking into this for us. Have a great evening. , -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 3/5/2019 15:33:58 To: robna khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'o You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. 133 Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob(a)khals.net <rob(a)khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a)albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Hope your weekend went well. 134 I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app r I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now witl Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. lew eaffhr/ap Survey Project Manager Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 robokhals.net -------Original Message------- 135 From: Patricia Saternve Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(a)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal M Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by ema the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a)albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 136 f FREE Animations for your email i Click Here! o FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 137 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:52 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Sorry, I should have said your fees were correct except in reference to the private street. Also, the road plan will be required at a later stage whether it is a private or a public road. However, you don't pay a fee for that until later in the process. I still will get the private street request fee information to you in a future email. I am however, also pulling together some examples for you so that when you do submit the request it will be more complete. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development x` u Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 4:36 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, One thing I already know is that a "Road Plan" is not the fee or the process at this stage. That comes later, assuming the planning commission will approve the private street. I have a question for you in reference to the road and your processes so far though. Have you or your client had any communication with VDOT in reference to getting waivers for any of their requirements. Or has the possibility of a public road not been looked into? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 138 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:55 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Thinks for looking into this for us. Have a great evening. , -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 3/5/2019 15:33:58 To: robna khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'o You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. 139 Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob(a)khals.net <rob(a)khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a)albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Hope your weekend went well. 140 I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app r I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now witl Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. lew eaffhr/ap Survey Project Manager Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 robokhals.net -------Original Message ------- I'll From: Patricia Saternve Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(a)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal M Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by ema the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a)albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 142 f FREE Animations for your email i Click Here! o FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 1,13 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 4:36 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, One thing I already know is that a "Road Plan" is not the fee or the process at this stage. That comes later, assuming the planning commission will approve the private street. I have a question for you in reference to the road and your processes so far though. Have you or your client had any communication with VDOT in reference to getting waivers for any of their requirements. Or has the possibility of a public road not been looked into? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development x` u Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2019 3:55 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Thinks for looking into this for us. Have a great evening. 144 :R, -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternve Date: 3/5/2019 15:33:58 To: robakhals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal M You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 145 From: rob(a-)khals.net <rob(a)khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye(a-)albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello! Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app r I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) = $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now witl Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. 146 A cUAYM%Ka" Survey Project Manager K1 & 1 Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 robna.khals.net -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternve Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(a)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 9 Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by ema the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 147 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville. VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 Psaternve(a)albemarle.oro www.albemarle.oro 0 FREE Animations for your email I Click Here! fill FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 1118 149 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: rob@khals.net Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 ISS PM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hew! Paty, Thinks for looking into this for us. Have a great evening. -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 3/5/2019 15:33:58 To: rob(a.khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal '.. You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. Thanks, Paty Saternye 150 Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(a)albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hew! Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app r I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: 151 Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now witl Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. Ao06 eamhr%K." Survey Project Manager KI -.i&Y 1 Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob(cDkhals.net -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye 152 Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(a)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 9 Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by ema the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(aD_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org 153 O FREE Animations for your email Click Here! toh FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 1511 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 3:34 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: RE: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, You have the fees you listed correct. For the private street I have to do a little research and I will get back to you. Thank you for your patience. Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development .m �;4 U �/Rp Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.org www.albemarle.ors From: rob@khals.net <rob@khals.net> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app meeting? The fees as I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) = $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 155 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now with that part of Yellow Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it is an existing road? And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. A066 c4NX4 6fe Survey Project Manager K I .& 1 Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob[7a.khals.net -------Original Message ------- From: Patricia Satemye Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 To: rob(d)khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'o Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by email in reference to the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 156 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(Malbemarle.org www.albemarle.org f FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 157 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: rob@khals.net Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello, Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app meeting? The fees as I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now with that part of Yellow Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it is an existing road? And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. Survey Project Manager TT T T�, A Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob(iilkhals.net -----Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 158 To: rob(a.khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'RR Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by email in reference to the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org f FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 159 160 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: rob@khals.net Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello, Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app meeting? The fees as I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now with that part of Yellow Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it is an existing road? And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. Survey Project Manager TT T T�, A Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob(iilkhals.net -----Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 161 To: rob(a.khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'RR Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by email in reference to the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org f FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 162 163 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: rob@khals.net Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 10:13 AM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: Re: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Hello, Paty, Hope your weekend went well. I think I was able to find out what we need to submit today but for the fees, was that discussed in the Pre-app meeting? The fees as I see them and please correct me if I'm wrong are as follows: Preliminary Plat (1-9 lots) _ $1,236 Fire Rescue Fee = $75 Tier 2 Groundwater Review = $355 Mailings = $215, and here is where it gets a little fuzzy. For the Private Street (Road Plans) I think there is a fee of $430. Now with that part of Yellow Wood Road that runs through the Preservation Tract is there a fee associated with the design variations since it is an existing road? And finally so I can note it in my file, what date was the pre-app meeting held? Thanks much and hope you have a great day. Survey Project Manager TT T T�, A Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.109 rob(iilkhals.net -----Original Message ------- From: Patricia Saternye Date: 2/28/2019 14:45:10 164 To: rob(a.khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal 'RR Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by email in reference to the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye(a)_albemarle.org www.albemarle.org f FREE Animations for your email Click Here! 165 166 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:45 PM To: rob@khals.net Subject: SUB2019-29 - questions on new submission after withdrawal Rob, Since you have questions, and since we are playing phone tag, could you ask your questions by email in reference to the new submittal of the subdivision that was originally submitted under SUB2019-29? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development s°F Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.ora 167 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Cisco Unity Connection Messaging System <unityconnection@cobm- cucxnpub.albemarle.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:30 PM To: psaternye@cobm-cucxnpub.albemarle.org Subject: Message from KIRK HUGHES A (94342966942) Attachments: Voice Message.wav Categories: ViewMail 168 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 7:57 AM To: Bill Fritz Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Thanks for clarifying. Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 2 y`, v •,V�R41ir*I Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternye@albemarle.ora www.albemarle.ora From: Bill Fritz Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:42 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternye@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D I don't recall any discussion about the conservation easement at all. William D. Fritz, AICP Development Process Manager/Ombudsman 434-296-5823 ext 3242 From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:48 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill, When you are saying "I don't know about the easements themselves..." does that include that you did not know if the conservation easement would allow them to use Yellow Wood Drive to access additional lots? Or was some decision made, or information found, that said he could use Yellow Wood Drive for access for the new lots created with the subdivision? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development 169 Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve@albemarle.ore www.albemarle.org From: Bill Fritz Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:44 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: FW: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Last thing I have. William D. Fritz, AICP Development Process Manager/Ombudsman 434-296-5823 ext 3242 From: Bill Fritz Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:38 PM To: Kirk <kirk@khals.net> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D I took a look at the last action the PC took. The issue of division will be one for the Planning Commission to act on. They will need to approve the private streets and a modification to allow some of the lots to use Catlin and some to use Yellow Wood. The real issue is going to be the need to upgrade the streets to meet the minimum design standards. I don't know about the easements themselves and if TMP 43-18D has or can obtain the necessary permission from the property owners to use either or both streets. I hope this helps. Call me if you have additional questions. From: Kirk<kirk@khals.net> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:22 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill, Thanks. I know yall are busy. Have a good evening. Kirk Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smanphone -------- Original message -------- From: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ e albemarle.org> Date: 5/24/18 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00) 170 To: Kirk Hughes <kirk e khals.net> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D It is on my desk as I type this. Was trying to get it done today. That didn't happen. Will try for tomorrow. From: Kirk Hughes <kirk(a�khals.net> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:16 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZAalbemarle.org> Subject: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill- Any progress! You must be busy as a one armed paper hanger.. Have a great Holiday> Kirk I:n:3111 Have you had a chance to review your history for Far Fields private street issue? Thanks, Kirk Kirk Hughes, L.S. Principal II Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street 171 Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.108 kirk4khals.net Micro Business Certified SWaM Certification #697836 DISCLAIMER: This communication and any files or attachments transmitted with it may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or the entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you me hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at once so appropriate action can be taken, and destroy any such copies. APlease consider the environment before printing this email. 172 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: Bill Fritz Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:42 PM To: Patricia Saternye Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D I don't recall any discussion about the conservation easement at all. William D. Fritz, AICP Development Process Manager/Ombudsman 434-296-5823 ext 3242 From: Patricia Saternye Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:48 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill, When you are saying "I don't know about the easements themselves..." does that include that you did not know if the conservation easement would allow them to use Yellow Wood Drive to access additional lots? Or was some decision made, or information found, that said he could use Yellow Wood Drive for access for the new lots created with the subdivision? Thanks, Paty Saternye Senior Planner Community Development =4 U .a�/R41M�* Albemarle County 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902 434-296-5832 ext.3250 psaternve(@albemarle.org www.albemarle.org From: Bill Fritz Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:44 PM To: Patricia Saternye <psaternve@albemarle.ore> Subject: FW: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Last thing I have. William D. Fritz, AICP Development Process Manager/Ombudsman 434-296-5823 ext3242 173 From: Bill Fritz Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 2:38 PM To: Kirk <kirk@khals.net> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D I took a look at the last action the PC took. The issue of division will be one for the Planning Commission to act on. They will need to approve the private streets and a modification to allow some of the lots to use Catlin and some to use Yellow Wood. The real issue is going to be the need to upgrade the streets to meet the minimum design standards. I don't know about the easements themselves and if TMP 43-18D has or can obtain the necessary permission from the property owners to use either or both streets. I hope this helps. Call me if you have additional questions. From: Kirk <kirk@khals.net> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 8:22 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill, Thanks. I know yall are busy. Have a good evening. Kirk Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ e albemarle.org> Date: 5/24/18 4:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Kirk Hughes <kirk(a)khals.net> Subject: RE: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D It is on my desk as I type this. Was trying to get it done today. That didn't happen. Will try for tomorrow. From: Kirk Hughes <kirk(a�khals.net> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 4:16 PM To: Bill Fritz <BFRITZ(a)albemarle.org> Subject: Tax Map 43, Parcels 18D Bill- Any progress! You must be busy as a one armed paper hanger.. Have a great Holiday> Kirk 174 am Have you had a chance to review your history for Far Fields private street issue? Thanks, Kirk Kirk Hughes, L.S. Principal II Kirk Hughes & Associates Land Surveyors & Planners 220 East High Street Charlottesville, VA 22902 (434) 296-6942, Ext.108 kirk0khals.net Micro Business Certified SWaM Certification #697836 DISCLAIMER: This communication and any files or attachments transmitted with it may contain information that is confidential, privileged and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or the entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender at once so appropriate action can be taken, and destroy any such copies. `A Please consider the environment before printing this email. 175 176 Patricia "Paty" Saternye From: ekiewra@albemarle.org Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 3:34 AM To: Stephanie Banton; Christopher Perez, Megan Nedostup; Brent Nelson; Rachel Falkenstein; Patricia Saternye; Cameron Langille; Heather McMahon; Tori Kanellopoulos; Andy Reitelbach; Jeffrey Baker, Andrew Knuppel; Mariah Gleason Cc: Elise Kiewra; Ruth Emerick Subject: GWA-CreateTier2GroundwaterAssessment.py python script has executed successfully Follow Up Flag: Follow up Flag Status: Flagged The GWA_CreateTier2GroundwaterAssessment.py script has completed successfully. Here is some pertinent information: Tier 2 Groundwater Assessments: SUB201900042... Lots DI-D7 Preliminary... 04300-00-00-018DO PDF File: "\\cob_£s01\vol3\DEPT\Community Development\Zoning & Current Development Division\GroundwaterAssessments\GWA_Tier2_SUB201900042.pdf" The PDF files can be found here (check archive folder for older PDFs): "\\cob_fs01\vol3\DEPT\Community Development\Zoning & Current Development Division\GroundwaterAssessments\" Please copy/paste (leave originals in place) the PDF files to the proper file in CityView so that it can be properly managed by Laserfiche. ***Also, please note that the orthos used in the map images for the assessments are from Y2018. If this should change, you will need to make sure you update the maps and legend text (i.e. the MXD that is used to generate the maps).*** ***NOTE: Tier 2 Assessments will only be done where a CDD staffer chooses the dropdown menu option for Tier II on application page 2 in CountyView.*** 177