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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSUB202200144 Correspondence 2022-10-13Kevin McCollum From: Rebecca Ragsdale Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2022 9:10 AM To: Andrew Graff; Kevin McCollum Subject: Re: SUB202200144 Green Hill Farm plat Good morning, play is ready for pick up. From: Rebecca Ragsdale Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 7:04 PM To: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 Green Hill Farm plat The revised plat was not uploaded to County View so I reviewed it to make sure all review comments were addressed. Your email did not include the revised plat Kevin was referring to. I don't see how the revised plat addressed the stream buffer, as there was no revision to that on the revised plat. If that comment has been addressed, the plat will be ready for pick up as this gets sorted out tomorrow. Hopefully, first thing in the morning when Kevin returns. I have put the Bannan plat in the pick up bin. Thanks! From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:53 AM To: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB202200144 Green Hill Farm plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Ms. Ragsdale, Please send the attached for Mr. McCollum's email to me for County signatures. I appreciate your assistance for getting the signed plat back early next week!! Thank you for the Barman plat info! I'll let the owners know. Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Friday, October 7, 2022, Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org> wrote: Good afternoon, Keith passed along the plat that needs signature and is time sensitive I understand. Kevin is out of the office today and Monday. I will need to verify the plat can be signed. Before those authorized to sign plats sign them, the lead planner has reviewed the paper copy a final time to make sure all is correct. Do you have an email from Kevin and the revised plat he indicated was ready for signature? He will be back on Tuesday but I believe you need this before Wednesday? Also, the plat that was dropped off with the email from Paty was not signed by the owners or notarized. That will need to be done before the County can sign the plat. That was the Bannan and Arterburn development rights transfer plat. Thanks, Rebecca Rebecca Ragsdale, Planning Manager Community Development County of Albemarle 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902-4596 434-296-5832 ext. 3226 rragsdale@albemarle.org Kevin McCollum From: Rebecca Ragsdale Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 7:04 PM To: Andrew Graff, Kevin McCollum Subject: RE: SUB202200144 Green Hill Farm plat Attachments: 157FCC42-1533-4AA7-AlD4-F46EA07DC997.png Importance: High The revised plat was not uploaded to County View so I reviewed it to make sure all review comments were addressed. Your email did not include the revised plat Kevin was referring to. I don't see how the revised plat addressed the stream buffer, as there was no revision to that on the revised plat. If that comment has been addressed, the plat will be ready for pick up as this gets sorted out tomorrow. Hopefully, first thing in the morning when Kevin returns. I have put the Bannan plat in the pick up bin. Thanks! From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 6:53 AM To: Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB202200144 Green Hill Farm plat CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Ms. Ragsdale, Please send the attached for Mr. McCollum's email to me for County signatures. I appreciate your assistance for getting the signed plat back early next week!! Thank you for the Barman plat info! I'll let the owners know. Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Friday, October 7, 2022, Rebecca Ragsdale <ragsdale@albemarle.org> wrote: Good afternoon, Keith passed along the plat that needs signature and is time sensitive I understand. Kevin is out of the office today and Monday. I will need to verify the plat can be signed. Before those authorized to sign plats sign them, the lead planner has reviewed the paper copy a final time to make sure all is correct. Do you have an email from Kevin and the revised plat he indicated was ready for signature? He will be back on Tuesday but I believe you need this before Wednesday? Also, the plat that was dropped off with the email from Paty was not signed by the owners or notarized. That will need to be done before the County can sign the plat. That was the Bannan and Arterburn development rights transfer plat. Thanks, Rebecca Rebecca Ragsdale, Planning Manager Community Development County of Albemarle 401 McIntire Road Charlottesville, VA 22902-4596 434-296-5832 ext. 3226 rragsdale@albemarle.org Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 1:25 PM To: Andrew Graff Subject: RE: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA - TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A Attachments: RE: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Yes, please do. See my email I sent last week (attached). From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 1:23 PM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA-TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A Hi Mr. McCollum, Can I bring in copies of the Thomas plat for County signatures? Their closing on this BLA and the whole farm is next week. Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 3:43 PM Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Afternoon, Attached are review comments for application SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA - TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A. Please make the applicable changes and resubmit the plat online here. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Kevin McCollum, AICP, C2o Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 1:59 PM To: Andrew Graff Cc: John Anderson Subject: RE: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Good Afternoon Andy, All comments for SUB2022-144 have now been addressed. Please submit two (2) hard copies of the Plat to the Community Development Department for final submittal and approval. Once signed by the Agent for the Board of Sueprvisors one copy will be kept for our records and one copy will be returned to you. If you require additional copies please make copies of the signed Plat we return to you. Additional copies will not be signed. Please make sure to print the Plats to scale, have all applicable parties sign them, and have it notarized. Thanks and let me know if you have any questions! Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 1:25 PM To: Andrew Slack <aslack@albemarle.org>; Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com>; Kevin McCollum <kmccol lum@albemarle.org> Cc: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Andy (Slack), Please let's discuss where to revise county GIS stream buffer shown across three TMPs near North Garden (Waal district). I performed a stream determination, yesterday, and identified a limited reach (-200') of intermittent stream with specific field indicators present: red -speckled salamanders, algae, defined channel, discernible flow; it is a non -perennial stream (field data sheet attached). No intermittent stream (buffer) exists on TMPs 09900-00-00-059DO or 09900-00-00-062A0. Limit of stream buffer should match proposed buffer shown on plat at SUB2022-00144; limit is approx. 300' upslope of the farm pond —see images below. Thanks for your help with this, Andy! Andrew Graff, Old Albemarle Surveying, may also be able to assist. Take care, best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Kevin, Andrew G., yesterday, September 28, 2022 5:58 PM, I wrote: `Kevin, Engineering supports revised stream buffer as depicted on plat. Additional detail /comment to follow, tomorrow. Andrew, I visited the site and will be in touch, tomorrow. I believe the 100' stream buffer proposed with plat is reasonable as shown, relative to spring, well, tel. ped., that stream buffer ends and does not extend upslope of buffer linework depicted. Engineering requests plat show the existing soil (farm field) road that connects pastures and that is located immediately NE of and perhaps partially within stream buffer as an easily identifiable landmark —please show on plat. I may ask favor in that Old Albemarle Surveying field run data used to define stream buffer on the plat may be helpful to county GIS staff in revising the GIS layer. May staff reach out to you for help revising the buffer more accurately in county GIS? Additional note to follow, tomorrow.' Please accent this follow-u Engineering supports revised stream buffer as depicted on plat (SUB202200144). Attached photos show well and tel. ped. in relation to proposed revised buffer, which is an accurate depiction of (intermittent) stream at TMP 09900-00-00-06200. Please compare proposed revised (soon -to -be platted) stream buffer with current GIS, which shows buffer extends well -beyond actual intermittent stream buffer. Near arc defining 100' stream buffer in plat image below, a soil road visible in first photo (road connecting farm fields, visible center /background) lies just SW of the tel. pedestal. The platted revised stream buffer is accurately drawn relative to field indicators for this intermittent stream. For distance approx. 200' from head of farm pond, third image below, where it enters the pond, field indicators on 9/28/22 ( >48-hr after last rainfall) indicate presence of an intermittent stream. Beyond this point, beyond the soil road, upland woods define topography. No stream indicators exist within 100' of intermittent stream end, so plat correctly identifies limit of stream buffer across parcel 99-62 in this rural area near North Garden, VA. No buffer exists on either TMP 09900-00-00-059DO or 09900-00-00-062AO (41 image, below), but rather, should be shown in county GIS as an arc approx. 100' beyond end of 202' red line segment visible in 3'd image, below (approx. 300' upslope of pond). I hope this note is helpful SUB2022-00144 APPROVED FOR RECORDATION I d PIPE AGENT FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DATE IRON FOUND NO? l7o.a "E� � �O O E PLAT APPROVAL T M 99- P 62 ITo.etl / THE PLATTING OR DEDICATION OF THE FOLLOWING DESCRIBED LAND, GREEN HILL FARM i + F 3(>_ IN ACCORDANCE C REVISED PARCEL A I3.09 AC., IS WEN TIE FREE CONSENT AND LAND TRUST J IN OPIEORSA WITH THE DESIRES IF THE UNDERSIGNED OWNERS, EX. HEREBY VAC t i; PROPRIETORS AND/OR TRUSTEES, IF ANv. D.B. 140, P 709 •' HEREBY VACAT D.B. 140, . RESIDUE PLAT 00, �'W BENJAMIN R.THOMAS DATE 3834 AC. RESIDUE i ;1 d`^"""STT'3d NOR THOMAS DAIRY 2 •. PIPE NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 .POy; fpNq AGENT FOR GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST DATE 7" POLE NOTARY PUBLIC NOTARY PUBLIC i STATE OF STATE OF R•4`ALLjN CITY / COUNTY OF CITY / COUNTY OF B ,.•,. THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS A KNOWLEOOEO BEFORE ME THIS — DAY OF , 20—. _ DAY OF , 20_. PS O•_Vwr\ Za RIB AS OWNER. AS OWNER. �aba0. NOTES 1. THIS PLAT IS BASED ON A CURRENT FIELD SURVEY. 2. REVISED PARCEL A DOES NOT UE IN ZONE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) ACCORDING TO FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 D. 3. NO TITLE REPORT FURNISHED, EASEMENTS AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHDWN MAY EXIST. 4. THE STREAM BUFFERS SHOWN HEREON SHALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ALBEMARLE COUNTY WATER PROTECTION ORDINANCE. 5. THE RESIDUE OF T M. 99 - P 62 HAS 4 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, REVISED PARCEL A HAS I DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND MAY NOT BE FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. PAR 9.05 RED. SPRING )1170' STREAM BUFFER \ / (SEE NOTE N0.01 T M. 99 - P 65 / SFCONG APFFN HII 1 IRON FOUND VICINITY SKETCH 712 NORTH GARDE 712 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR ,V"SITE" �• 5 IOMAS ' IIRY LN -30q.99, T.M.99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS 0.B.818,P.569,572 PLAT 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN,VA.22959 c PIPE RON 'ET :FOUND N07°32'41'�E c- no. Bd O e EX. 20' R./ W''I% is HEREBY VACATED, i r pp'' : ....._• 40 `N yC o.........STI* . 9. ','PIPE .959 3 QO,',% FOUND �2 POLE OVERHEAD UTIL. LINE , �I,N e�pSy VN zo e e�2�p\R e�a5 T. 3 PIPE .. FOUND '';d' I PARCEL X 9.05 AC. \SP ).100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO.4) ELEC. TRANS. W 5770 3y 28 (o N QO P FALLEN PAINTED BENT PIPE RESET WITH STONE PILE S`59e J 433F IRON TM. 99-P.! JAMES F. P( D.B. 2247, P. D.B. 68, P. 44 E COUNTY GIS, stream buffer laver Red line segment indicates approx. end of /limit of intermittent stream. A perennial stream does not exist above (or feed) the farm pond. Revised stream buffer should extend 100' beyond limit of intermittent stream. 10 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.ore> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:48 AM 11 To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Get Outlook for iOS 12 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 1:25 PM To: Andrew Slack; Andrew Graff, Kevin McCollum Cc: Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: FW: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Attachments: Imagejpeg; Imagejpeg; Imagejpeg; SKM_364e-En22092816090.pdf Andy (Slack), Please let's discuss where to revise county GIS stream buffer shown across three TMPs near North Garden (Waal district). I performed a stream determination, yesterday, and identified a limited reach (-200') of intermittent stream with specific field indicators present: red -speckled salamanders, algae, defined channel, discernible flow; it is a non -perennial stream (field data sheet attached). No intermittent stream (buffer) exists on TMPs 09900-00-00-059DO or 09900-00-00-062A0. Limit of stream buffer should match proposed buffer shown on plat at SUB2022-00144; limit is approx. 300' upslope of the farm pond —see images below. Thanks for your help with this, Andy! Andrew Graff, Old Albemarle Surveying, may also be able to assist. Take care, best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 Kevin, Andrew G., yesterday, September 28, 2022 5:58 PM, I wrote: `Kevin, Engineering supports revised stream buffer as depicted on plat. Additional detail /comment to follow, tomorrow. Andrew, I visited the site and will be in touch, tomorrow. I believe the 100' stream buffer proposed with plat is reasonable as shown, relative to spring, well, tel. ped., that stream buffer ends and does not extend upslope of buffer linework depicted. Engineering requests plat show the existing soil (farm field) road that connects pastures and that is located immediately NE of and perhaps partially within stream buffer as an easily identifiable landmark —please show on plat. I may ask favor in that Old Albemarle Surveying field run data used to define stream buffer on the plat may be helpful to county GIS staff in revising the GIS layer. May staff reach out to you for help revising the buffer more accurately in county GIS? Additional note to follow, tomorrow.' Please accept this follow-up: Engineering supports revised stream buffer as depicted on plat (SUB202200144). Attached photos show well and tel. ped. in relation to proposed revised buffer, which is an accurate depiction of (intermittent) stream at TMP 09900-00-00-06200. Please compare proposed revised (soon -to -be platted) stream buffer with current GIS, which shows buffer extends well -beyond actual intermittent stream buffer. Near arc defining 100' stream buffer in plat image below, a soil road visible in first photo (road connecting farm fields, visible center /background) lies just SW of the tell. pedestal. The platted revised stream buffer is accurately drawn relative to field indicators for this intermittent stream. For distance approx. 200' from head of farm pond, 13 third image below, where it enters the pond, field indicators on 9/28/22 ( >48-hr after last rainfall) indicate presence of an intermittent stream. Beyond this point, beyond the soil road, upland woods define topography. No stream indicators exist within 100' of intermittent stream end, so plat correctly identifies limit of stream buffer across parcel 99-62 in this rural area near North Garden, VA. No buffer exists on either TMP 09900-00-00-059DO or 09900-00-00-062AO (41 image, below), but rather, should be shown in county GIS as an arc approx. 100' beyond end of 202' red line segment visible in 31d image, below (approx. 300' upslope of pond). I hope this note is helpful. SUB2022-00144 APPROVED FOR RECORDATION I FPINO AGENT FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DATE IRON 6 OWNERS APPROVAL SET N07 "Ef V� ?O.8 ITo.Btl THE PLATTING OR DEDICATION OF THE FOLLOWING DESCRIBED M T99- P 62 / O tJ�^ LAND, EC., IS WITH FREE CONSENT ILA REVISED PARCEL A 13.05DESIRES GREEN HILL FARM y �. •( f,F. Cyr NTHEDE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIRES OF THE UNDERSIGNED OWNERS, LAND TRUST E%. 20' R/W ...35 . PROPRIETORS AND/OR TRUSTEES, IF ANY. O.B. 140, R �"°, HEREBY VACATED:. ,.y ...... �AS.�S D. B. 140, P. 84 PLAT o °,k , RESIDUE AC.RESIDUE li8^•"•'STT'30'� BENJAMIN R.THOMAS DATE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY •; PIPE NOR 2 NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 AGENT FOR GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST DATE �y ;'f POLE �/ NOTARY PUBLIC NOTARY PUBLIC :'i '' t OVERHEAD STATE OF STATE OF J6V, CITY / COUNTY OF CITY / COUNTY OF GpP,,, THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS " 4� ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS PS "y-' PAR — DAY OF , 20—. _ DAY OF , 20_. �I�,A P�'`[f`t •V•'A`` 9.05 AS OWNER. AS OWNER. 2d ��. 0Y8� WELL �. o ED SPRING L100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE N0.4) 'NOTES \ I. THIS PLAT IS BASED ON A CURRENT FIELD SURVEY. \\` 'oj 2. REVISED PARCEL A DOES NOT LIE IN ZONE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) ACCORDING TO FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 D. 3. NO TITLE REPORT FURNISHED, EASEMENTS AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST. IRON 4, THE STREAM BUFFERS SHOWN HEREON SHALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOUND ALBEMARLE COUNTY WATER PROTECTION ORDINANCE. 5. THE RESIDUE OF TM. 99- P. 62 HAS 4 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, REVISED PARCEL A HAS DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND MAY NOT BE FURTHER DIVIDED, THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. T M. 99 - P 65 SFCONO f.RFFN HII I It 14 VICINITY SKETCH 712 NORTH GARDE 712 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR ,V"SITE" �• 5 IOMAS ' IIRY LN -30q.99, T.M.99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS 0.B.818,P.569,572 PLAT 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN,VA.22959 c PIPE RON 'ET :FOUND N 07°32'41'� E c - no. Bd O e EX. 20' R./ W''I% is HEREBY VACATED, i r pp'' : ....._• 40 `N yC o.........STI* . 9. ','PIPE .959 3 QO,',% FOUND �2 POLE OVERHEAD UTIL. LINE , �I,N e�pSy VN zo e e�2�p\R e�a5 T. 3 PIPE .. FOUND '';d' I PARCEL X 9.05 AC. \SP ).100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO.4) ELEC. TRANS. W 5770 3y 28 (o N QO P FALLEN PAINTED BENT PIPE RESET WITH STONE PILE S`59e J 433F IRON TM. 99-P.! JAMES F. P( D.B. 2247, P. D.B. 68, P. 44 15 COUNTY GIS, stream buffer laver Red line segment indicates approx. end of /limit of intermittent stream. A perennial stream does not exist above (or feed) the farm pond. Revised stream buffer should extend 100' beyond limit of intermittent stream. 16 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 11:48 AM 17 To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB2022-00144, BLA-Stream determination, Thomas Dairy Lane Get Outlook for iOS 18 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 5:52 PM To: Andrew Graff Cc: Kevin McCollum; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: RE: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, Engineering supports revised stream buffer as depicted on plat. Additional detail /comment to follow, tomorrow. Thanks for your patience, Kevin. -best, J. Anderson Andrew, I visited the site and will be in touch, tomorrow. I believe the 100' stream buffer proposed with plat is reasonable as shown, relative to spring, well, tel. ped., that stream buffer ends and does not extend upslope of buffer linework depicted. Engineering requests plat show the existing soil (farm field) road that connects pastures and that is located immediately NE of and perhaps partially within stream buffer as an easily identifiable landmark —please show on plat. I may ask favor in that Old Albemarle Surveying field run data used to define stream buffer on the plat may be helpful to county GIS staff in revising the GIS layer. May staff reach out to you for help revising the buffer more accurately in county GIS? Additional note to follow, tomorrow. thanks for your patience. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:35 AM To: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Cc: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Andrew, thank you, I just left voicemail. You need not meet me on -site. As explained in voicemail, I must complete stream determination forms, and do not intend to rush on -site review, but it should not take long. I will likely leave within the hour, with travel time, should be on -site by Ipm. Thanks for explaining I have owner approval to enter the property. I am familiar with North Garden. My cell —feel free to call; though not used for county work, I will have it with me: 434.906-1506 You've been supportive and patient; thank you. ( Please note that removing a stream buffer from GIS takes time. If able to confirm absence of intermittent stream on this parcel, will indicate that in writing, that Engineering does not object to stream buffer linework shown on the proposed plat. It will take longer to actually modify the buffer shown on GIS, but this relates to mechanics, and we hope Planning will accept Engineering assurance that buffer is limited to linework shown on proposed revised boundary line adjustment, parcel A, TMP 09900-00-00-06200). 19 APPROVED FOR RECORDATION I d PIPE AGENT FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DATE IRON SET FOUND N O'"E� � �O OWNERS' APPROVAL TM 17o.e 99- P 62 I7o.ed / THE PLATTING OR DEDICATION OF THE FOLLOWING oEECONSE LAND, GREEN HILL FARM y IN A C REVISED PARCEL A 13.05 AC., IS WEN THE FREE CONSENT AND LAND TRUST J IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TRUSTEES, IF THE UNDERSIGNED OWNERS, EX. HEREBY VAC t i; MOPRNiTORS AND/OR TPU8TEE5, IF ANv. D.B. 140, P 709 •' HEREBY VMAT D.B. 140, . RESIDUE PLAT 000y �'W BENJAMIN R.THOMAS DATE 43.91 AC. RESIDUE i ;1 d`^""'STT'3d 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN •; PIPE NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 .POy; fpNq AGENT FOR GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST DATE 7" POLE NOTARY PUBLIC NOTARY PUBLIC i STATE OF STATE OF R•4`ALLjN CITY / COUNTY OF CITY / COUNTY OF B ,.•,. THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS — DAY OF , 20—. _ DAY OF , 20_. PS Zd LIP�' O•_Vwr\ AS OWNER. AS OWNER. �aba0. NOTES 1. THIS PLAT IS BASED ON A CURRENT FIELD SURVEY. 2. REVISED PARCEL A DOES NOT LiE IN ZONE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) ACCORDING TO FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 D. 3. NO TITLE REPORT FURNISHED, EASEMENTS AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES Nor SHOWN MAY EXIST. 4. THE STREAM BUFFERS SHOWN HEREON SHALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ALBEMARLE COUNTY WATER PROTECTION ORDINANCE. 5. THE RESIDUE OF T M. 99 - P 62 HAS 4 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, REVISED PARCEL A HAS I DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND MAY NOT BE FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT SURVEY OF REVISED PARCEL A CONTAINING 13.05 ACRES BEING THE COMBINING OF NEW PARCEL X - 9.05 AC. A PORTION OF THE GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY WITH EXISTING PARCEL A • 4.00 AC. THE PROPERTY OF BENJAMIN R. THOMAS KNOWN AS 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LANE LOCATED AT NORTH GARDEN OFF ST.. RT. 712 SAMUEL MILLER DISTRICT ALBEMARLE COUNTY VIRGINIA FOR BENJAMIN R. THOMAS SCALE I I° • 100' DATE , JULY 30, 2022 100' 300' ALBEMARLE SURVEYING, LLC EAST HIGH STREET ILOTTESVILLE, VIRGINIA 22902 PAR 9.05 RED. SPRING )1170' STREAM BUFFER \ / (SEE NOTE N0.01 RON FOUND TM. 99 - P 65 / AFcnun eRFrN wUI VICINITY SKETCH 712 B13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR *"SITE" EARTH R N THOMAS LN I gym. Tlz B/ vW s N� John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer II Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:26 AM To: John Anderson <janderson2@a1bemar1e.orR> Cc: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohlfpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox 20 <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hi Mr. Anderson, I can meet you there any day this week but Friday. The farm is scheduled to sell next week and this issue is the only item we are waiting onto finalize county approval for the boundary line adjustment survey. I appreciate your assistance on this. Andy Graff On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Mr. Graff, Thanks for your note. Will the owner allow a county Engineering Div. representative to enter the property? There is a process for revising stream buffers, which includes stream determination (site visit, data forms). Based on observations listed in note, below, it should be quite simple, and not take long. I carry county identification, but truly need property owner permission to enter the property. Please help us coordinate this. The GIS layer dictates stream buffer requirements, and shows a buffer we've been asked to revise /remove. I can visit this week with written property owner's permission. Thanks, very much. best, I Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer II Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle. Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 8:28 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2 @al bema rle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hello All, I was out at this property Saturday and looked again for any sign of a stream above the spring shown on my plat. There is no evidence of any stream or even a ditch above the spring. Your attention to resolving this issue so the plat can be signed would be greatly appreciated! Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff 21 On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveVing@gmail.com> wrote: I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle Countv Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! 22 Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County foohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 23 W �Ir P�t!-Urn yr ln.in.e tlrr�Fr John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development i County of Albemarle. Virginia 401 McIntire Road i Charlottesville. VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore>; John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.or> > Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.orl > Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, 24 If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. I Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County 7'0 Thanks, 25 fpohl Cc@al bemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https:Hgisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 26 i C. .L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1-4.00AC. V R. THOMAS WE OFF ST. RT. 712 DATE !JULY 30,2022 KX)' Soo E 'ING DESCRIREO LAND, E FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNEO OWNERS, DATE DATE 1RY PUBLIC IRON SET T.M. 99 - P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 0.B 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT 43.91 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 :Cor 'COUNTY OF OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS )WLEOGEO GEFORE ME THIS IAY OF ,20_, INER. 813 NORFOLK SOUTHERN Rp it-SITENORTH GARDEN DA"w Y LN O4 e 712 b� s FOUND UND S�3.O3, 304.y9. q' TM. 99-P62A N: EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS D. S. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3332 THOMAS DAIRY LN. d NORTH OARDEN,VA.22939 ° T,9 FPOUND Jf?;.• I,- OVERHEAD LINE I� '�t'.v PARCEL X 2d P9Tt ' EL 9.05 AC. WELL TEL� ea I SPRING ),IOV STREAM BUFFER + (SEE NOTE NO.4) EELE sY TRA :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) 1 AP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 O AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. 7EVELOPMENT RIGHTS. REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. V5 IRON T M �'• rouND JEAI D e. , as s T M. 99 - P OS SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 27 v Refresh vap �a P 100 99-62 28 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle Countv Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 29 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:35 AM To: Andrew Graff Cc: Kevin McCollum; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: RE: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Andrew, thank you, I just left voicemail. You need not meet me on -site. As explained in voicemail, I must complete stream determination forms, and do not intend to rush on -site review, but it should not take long. I will likely leave within the hour, with travel time, should be on -site by Ipm. Thanks for explaining I have owner approval to enter the property. I am familiar with North Garden. My cell —feel free to call; though not used for county work, I will have it with me: 434.906-1506 You've been supportive and patient; thank you. ( Please note that removing a stream buffer from GIS takes time. If able to confirm absence of intermittent stream on this parcel, will indicate that in writing, that Engineering does not object to stream buffer linework shown on the proposed plat. It will take longer to actually modify the buffer shown on GIS, but this relates to mechanics, and we hope Planning will accept Engineering assurance that buffer is limited to linework shown on proposed revised boundary line adjustment, parcel A, TNT 09900-00-00-06200). APPROVED FOR RECORDATION AGENT FOR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DATE ,OWNERS' APPROVAL DATE DATE I y PWE� IRON iFDDND 1 SET N07°32'41"E TM 99-P. 62 F /3 GREEN HILL FARM•()_ LAND TRUST E%. 20'R!W tl D.B. 1668, P 709 `"p, HEREBY VACATED , D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT O ',N •54h_ 43.91 AC. RESIDUE D;k 1 !/'d•^^"'3T1'� 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN / PIPE MONTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 y wy%FOUND 'NOTARY PUBLIC NOTARY PUBLIC ` %COUNT OF CITY OF CITYY/ COUNTY OF GGP4iY THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS THE FOREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS F,A' �. _ DAY OF , 20—. —DAY DF , 20—. Q,9z?V_ AS OWNER. AS OWNER. 20, e6\G•' `" NOTES : I. THIS PLAT IS BASED ON A CURRENT FIELD SURVEY. 2. REVISED PARCEL A DOES NOT LIE IN ZONE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) ACCORDING TO FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 D 3. NO TITLE REPORT FURNISHED, EASEMENTS AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES Nor SHD" MAY EXIST 4, THE STREAM BUFFERS SHOWN HEREON SHALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ALBEMARLE COUNTY WATER PROTECTION ORDINANCE. 5. THE RESIDUE OF TM. 99- P 62 HAS 4 DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. REVISED PARCEL A HAS I DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AND MAY NOT BE FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. POLE OVERNEAD UTIL. LINE PAR 9.05 PED SPRING I ,LIOo'STREAM BUFFER \ / (SEE NOTE N0.4) T. M. 99 - P. 65 / cFC(WNI rMFFM Nil 30 ARY ADJUSTMENT SURVEY OF SED PARCEL A MING 13.05 ACRES THE COMBINING OF PARCEL X • 9.05 AC. PION OF THE GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY XSTING PARCEL A • 4.00 AC. 30PERTY OF BENJAMIN R. THOMAS MIN R. THOMAS I" loop a lo7 22902 LLC ST. FIT. 712 DATE - JULY 30, 2022 John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 VICINITY SKETCH 712 813 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR *"SITE' NORTHDEN TIRY L HOMAS m I 712 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:26 AM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hi Mr. Anderson, I can meet you there any day this week but Friday. The farm is scheduled to sell next week and this issue is the only item we are waiting onto finalize county approval for the boundary line adjustment survey. I appreciate your assistance on this. Andy Graff On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.or2> wrote: Mr. Graff, Thanks for your note. Will the owner allow a county Engineering Div. representative to enter the property? There is a process for revising stream buffers, which includes stream determination (site visit, data forms). Based on observations listed in note, below, it should be quite simple, and not take long. I carry county identification, but truly need property owner permission to enter the property. Please help us coordinate this. The GIS layer dictates stream buffer requirements, and shows a buffer we've been asked to revise /remove. I can visit this week with written property owner's permission. Thanks, very much. best, J. Anderson 31 John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer II Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 8:28 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2 @albema rle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hello All, I was out at this property Saturday and looked again for any sign of a stream above the spring shown on my plat. There is no evidence of any stream or even a ditch above the spring. Your attention to resolving this issue so the plat can be signed would be greatly appreciated! Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveving@gmail.com> wrote: I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, Czo Senior Planner I 32 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl(@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> 33 Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 34 W �Ir P�t!-Urn yr ln.in.e tlrr�Fr John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development i County of Albemarle. Virginia 401 McIntire Road i Charlottesville. VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore>; John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.or> > Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.orl > Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, 35 If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. I Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County 7'0 Thanks, 36 fpohl Cc@al bemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https:Hgisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 37 i C. .L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1-4.00AC. V R. THOMAS WE OFF ST. RT. 712 DATE !JULY 30,2022 KX)' Soo E 'ING DESCRIREO LAND, E FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNEO OWNERS, DATE DATE 1RY PUBLIC IRON SET T.M. 99 - P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 0.B 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT 43.91 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 :Cor 'COUNTY OF OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS )WLEOGEO GEFORE ME THIS IAY OF ,20_, INER. 813 NORFOLK SOUTHERN Rp it-SITENORTH GARDEN DA"w Y LN O4 e 712 b� s FOUND UND S�3.O3, 304.y9. q' TM. 99-P62A N: EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS D. S. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3332 THOMAS DAIRY LN. d NORTH OARDEN,VA.22939 ° T,9 FPOUND Jf?;.• I,- OVERHEAD LINE I� '�t'.v PARCEL X 2d P9Tt ' EL 9.05 AC. WELL TEL� ea I SPRING ),IOV STREAM BUFFER + (SEE NOTE NO.4) EELE sY TRA :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) 1 AP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 O AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. 7EVELOPMENT RIGHTS. REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. V5 IRON T M �'• rouND JEAI D e. , as s T M. 99 - P OS SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 38 v Refresh vap �a P 100 99-62 39 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle Countv Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 fM Kevin McCollum From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 7:26 AM To: John Anderson Cc: Kevin McCollum; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hi Mr. Anderson, I can meet you there any day this week but Friday. The farm is scheduled to sell next week and this issue is the only item we are waiting onto finalize county approval for the boundary line adjustment survey. I appreciate your assistance on this. Andy Graff On Tuesday, September 27, 2022, John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> wrote: Mr. Graff, Thanks for your note. Will the owner allow a county Engineering Div. representative to enter the property? There is a process for revising stream buffers, which includes stream determination (site visit, data forms). Based on observations listed in note, below, it should be quite simple, and not take long. I carry county identification, but truly need property owner permission to enter the property. Please help us coordinate this. The GIS layer dictates stream buffer requirements, and shows a buffer we've been asked to revise /remove. I can visit this week with written property owner's permission. Thanks, very much. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer II Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle. Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 8:28 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hello All, 41 was out at this property Saturday and looked again for any sign of a stream above the spring shown on my plat. There is no evidence of any stream or even a ditch above the spring. Your attention to resolving this issue so the plat can be signed would be greatly appreciated! Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> wrote: I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, C2o Senior Planner I Albemarle Countv Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <0anderson2@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollumCa@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question 42 John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? 43 thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle. Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.orl > 44 Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 1A Thanks, Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl Cc@al bemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https:Hgisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 M C. .L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS 1NE OFF ST RT 712 DATE: JULY 30,2022 100• 500 E IRON SET T M. 99-P 62 813 NORFOLK SOUTTHERHFR N RR Y"SITF" NORTH THOMAS DAIRY I 04 b 712 b/ 'ING DESCRIBED LAND, GREEN HILL FARM y E FREE CONSENT AND LAND TRUST EX 21 IERSIGNED OWNERS, D B. 1868. P 709 °p. HEREI D 8. 140, P 484 PLAT Op" 43.91 AC RESIDUE GATE 3034 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22959 Ay DATE IRY PUBLIC I 'COUNTY OF OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS RY1LED EO BEFORE ME, THIS FNER be 'N Qs \ :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD ARE IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 510006 0400 D AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS . FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. VS 373.03,00" E J04.99. ry; T. M. 99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R THOMAS / 0.8. 818, P 569, 572 PLAT 3032 THOMAS DAIRY LN. a NORTH GAROEN,VA.22959 ° b ti O n �E "•Fou�ND u •j \o, _ \ PIPE FOUND :. o........g w 4" FOUND POLE �9l OVERHEAD OVE LINE PARCEL X \ 9.05 AC, WELL TEL pco SPRING t 100' STREAM BUFFER -(SEE NOTE N0.4) ELE P= R T{ pJ. IRON FOUND TM 99- P 65 / SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 577" 5, 26 W I JEAI DBE DB1 47 v Refresh 41ap 1H I 99-62 i I I 170 t 48 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle Countv Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 49 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2022 6:39 AM To: Andrew Graff; Kevin McCollum Cc: Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: RE: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Mr. Graff, Thanks for your note. Will the owner allow a county Engineering Div. representative to enter the property? There is a process for revising stream buffers, which includes stream determination (site visit, data forms). Based on observations listed in note, below, it should be quite simple, and not take long. I carry county identification, but truly need property owner permission to enter the property. Please help us coordinate this. The GIS layer dictates stream buffer requirements, and shows a buffer we've been asked to revise /remove. I can visit this week with written property owner's permission. Thanks, very much. best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 8:28 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Hello All, I was out at this property Saturday and looked again for any sign of a stream above the spring shown on my plat. There is no evidence of any stream or even a ditch above the spring. Your attention to resolving this issue so the plat can be signed would be greatly appreciated! Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurvevins@gmail.com> wrote: I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? 50 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C2o Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434)296-5832 ext.3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.ors>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 51 From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, fmdings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 52 John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.orl > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ora> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.orl > Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, 53 If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 720 Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County Thanks, 54 fpohl Opal bemarl e.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 55 C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 4-4.00AC. V R. THOMAS WE OFF ST RT. 712 DATE I JULY 30, 2022 100 500 E 'ING DESCRIBEO LAND E FREE CONSENT ANd WMIGNEO DINNER$, DATE DATE IRON SET T.M. 99- P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 0.8. 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT 43.91 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22259 IRY PUBLIC OF COUNTY OF 'OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS R9LEOGEO BEFORE NE THIS AT OF ,20_. INER 03 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR i SITE' GREEN o� IF ` 0' 0� 04 ti ' e u: nz o� s ate' 4: N� PIPE olzl�, FOUND 0 FP ND � POLE 330499 T. M. 99 - P 62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS D.B. 818,P569,572 PLAT / 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GAROEN,VA.22989 3 OVERHEAD ��6�;•• UTIL. LINE a9 Zd QIP`P PARCEL X +' \G 9.05 AC. R� WELL TELN KD I SPRING ),IOd STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO.4) �T+ � TFVAi 10 SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) l IAP, COMMIAM PANEL 5*006 0400 D AND OTHER ENCU IBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. CEVELOPMENT RIGHTS. REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. Vs v, g77°3''2g W _ IRON TM 9' FOUMO JEAN DO 49 aG. zH TIN. 99 - P 63 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 56 Refresh Nap �g 0 0 n � loon 99-62 a I 57 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C2o Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434)296-5832 ext.3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 58 Kevin McCollum From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 8:28 AM To: Kevin McCollum Cc: John Anderson; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. Hello All, I was out at this property Saturday and looked again for any sign of a stream above the spring shown on my plat. There is no evidence of any stream or even a ditch above the spring. Your attention to resolving this issue so the plat can be signed would be greatly appreciated! Wishing you a great and safe day, Andy Graff On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:33 PM Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@email.com> wrote: I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarity your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434)296-5832 ext.3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 59 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <landerson20Dalbemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohlOalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream 60 buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle. Virginia 61 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ors> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ors> Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 62 Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM Thanks, 63 To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 64 C. .L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1-4.00AC. V R. THOMAS WE OFF ST RT. 712 DATE I JULY 30, 2022 KXT 500 E 'ING DESCRIBEO LAND E FREE CONSENT ANd WMIGNEO DINNER$, DATE DATE IRON SET T.M. 99 - P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 0.8. 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT 43.91 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH GARDEN, VA. 22259 IRY PUBLIC OF COUNTY OF 'OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS R9LEOGEO BEFORE NE THIS AT OF ,20_. INER 61] NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR i SITE' GREEN o� IF ` 0' 0 04 ti ' e u: nz o� s ate' 4: N� PIPE olzl�, FOUND 0 FP ND � POLE 330499 T. M. 99 - P 62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS D.B. 818,P569,572 PLAT / 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GAROEN,VA.22989 3 OVERHEAD ��6�;•• UTIL. LINE a9 Zd QIP`P PARCEL X +' \G 9.05 AC. R� WELL TELN KD I SPRING ),IOd STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO.4) �T+ � TFVAi :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA) l IAP, COMMIAM PANEL SNOODS 0400 D AND OTHER ENCU IBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. 7EVELOPMENT RIGHTS. REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. Vs v, g77°3''2g W _ IRON TM 9' FOUMO JEAN DO 49 aG. zH TIN. 99 - P 63 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 65 Refresh Nap �g 0 0 n � loon 99-62 a I 66 Kevin McCollum, AICP, C2o Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434)296-5832 ext.3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 67 Kevin McCollum From: Andrew Graff<oldalbemarlesurveying@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 12:34 PM To: Kevin McCollum Cc: John Anderson; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: Re: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question CAUTION: This message originated outside the County of Albemarle email system. DO NOT CLICK on links or open attachments unless you are sure the content is safe. I'll available to meet there, any day but Fridays. On Wednesday, September 21, 2022, Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> wrote: Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, C20 Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollumCa@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Gf1 John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ors>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin 69 best, I Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer II Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question 70 Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer 71 Albemarle County foohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road. North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 72 C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS WE OFF ST RT 712 DATE ; JULY 30,2022 IOD 500 f ING DESCRIBED LAND, IE FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNED OWNERS, IRON SET T M. 99-P 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST D.B. 1068. P 709 D.B. 140, P 484 PLAT DATE 43.91 AC RESIDUE 1834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE IRY PUBLIC OF _ I 'COUNTY OF OREGOING INSTRUMENT WAS RYLEDGEO BEFORE ME THIS Ay OF , 20—. INER LD SURVEY NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAI � IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 5*006 0400 D AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. VS e13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR "SITF* NORTH THOMAS GARDEN DAIRY L.N 6'I 6 712 0t S)3.03 -E 104 99 m' N; .�; TM.99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R_THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3032 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH DARDEN,VA.229E9 ° PIPF FOUND , PIPE % SOS i FOUND y POLE OVERHEAD -�v" UTIL. LIME SJ PARCEL X \WELLTENGJL100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC TRAN! T M. 99 - P 65 / SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST IRON FOUND TM 99 JEAN 08 421 DO 29! 73 1 v Refresh Nep 0 n 99-621 O O n 700 �c 6A I �t / 74 Kevin McCollum, AICP, QO Senior Planner I Albemarle Counri Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 75 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:58 AM To: Frank Pohl; Kevin McCollum Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, got it, sorry, thanks, will do —Kevin, apologies. Applicant is asking to revise buffer, just need POC. Thanks, Kevin From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County foohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <!anderson2@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.o> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 76 John E. Anderson, PE i Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore>; John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.or> > Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 77 - . V Fy i oPs;; S M L/ �r Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 Thanks, From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 78 D C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS 1NE OFF ST RT 712 DATE JULY 30, 2022 Kl0 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, III! FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNED OWNERS, IRON SET R13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN N RR ,,"SITE" NORTH THOMAS GARDEN DAIRY LN bq b 712 6� T M. 99 • P 62 4 R GREEN HILL FARM 't LAND TRUST. D 8. 1868, P 709 140 0.8 140, P 484 PLAT DATE 3,91 AC ESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE IRY PUBLIC OF 'COUNTY OF 'OREGDING INSTRUMENT WAS 1WLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS IAY OF , 20_. INER S 7jiO3' 3p499 q .�; it) z T. M. 99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R_THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN,VA.22959 S: r; 0 A o u PIPE ` n FOUND / '^ NOT32'41"E SRO I70 ad PIPF FOUND ( 20'RIWi; EREBr VACATE(L; j "y345.5d 3 !,O!'i FPOUMD 5���"M r" i' POLEAM lK, OVERHEAD UTIL LINE JB d aI-* '.1' %3�• _- _ PARCEL X oP' WELL 9,05 AC. \ TEL rrD SPRING 1" 100' STREAM BUFFER -(SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC �P� I TRANS :LD SURVEY. \ NE A (SPECIAL FL000 HAZARD AREA) 1 IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 500006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. )EVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. VS fir � 9 O, � FOUNROND T M. 99 - P 65 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST ST� 2T 11 W TM 99- JEAN S DO 4214 D8 2951 79 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n m Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 81 Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:32 AM To: Andrew Graff Cc: John Anderson; Frank Pohl; Emily Cox Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Good Morning Andy, Please see Engineering's comments below. Could you please clarify your intent with this plat? Do you wish to amend the stream buffer information? Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County foohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <landerson2@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.ore> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. 82 Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum(a@albemarle.ora>; John Anderson <0anderson2(a@albemarle.or¢> 83 Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. rky�— Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM -� Thanks, 84 To: Frank Pohl 4pohWalbemarle.orp Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 85 i C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS ENE OFF ST RT 712 DATE I JULY 30, 2022 IOO 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, E FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNEO OWNERS, IRON SET T M. 99-P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST D.B 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT DATE AM 01 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE LRY PUBLIC ' 'COUNTY OF WE801NG INSTRUMENT WAS RYLEDGED BEFORE WE THIS AY OF , 20—. INER B13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR 'SITE• NORTH TNOMAS �, IRON SET GARDEN DAIRY LN S>J•O5, E JO099 m. q ro T. M. 99-P62A ee :. EXISTING 712 ' PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT3032 NORTH GAF EN,VA. 229D9 ° •C • po 4 � 01 O °FOUND Gi '^ N07°32'41°E S�O 170.8d �3 PIPE FOUND EX 20' R/W •, Y'.'� _ .. .... 140_ HEREBY WICATEO "yAS. 56 ' PIPE FOUND POLE q� OVERHEAD ` n�.H6�;•' UTIL. LINE ad PI'*'2PPARoP'' 9 05 AC L X �O'o�6• o�'� WELL • \ TEL rto 1 SPRING L_100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC 4Pj I TRANS :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAI IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 5*006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. V5 ter ao O, ST7" 3� 2g w FOU RONDN TM 99 - JEAN S D B 4214 TM 99 - P 65 DO 2951 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST M 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n 87 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 88 Kevin McCollum From: Frank Pohl Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:30 AM To: John Anderson; Kevin McCollum Cc: Emily Cox Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question John, Sorry, I wasn't clear. They are asking to revise the buffer as indicated in the emails below. Scroll wayyyyy down... Thanks so much! Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle County fpohl@albemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org>; Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 89 John E. Anderson, PE i Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.ore> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ore>; John Anderson <ianderson2@albemarle.ore> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.or> > Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 90 - . V Fy i oPs;; S M L/ �r Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 Thanks, From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 91 D C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS 1NE OFF ST RT 712 DATE JULY 30, 2022 Kl0 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, III! FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNED OWNERS, IRON SET R13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN N RR ,,"SITE" NORTH THOMAS GARDEN DAIRY LN bq b 712 6� T M. 99 • P 62 4 R GREEN HILL FARM 't LAND TRUST. D 8. 1868, P 709 140 0.8 140, P 484 PLAT DATE 3,91 AC ESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE IRY PUBLIC OF 'COUNTY OF 'OREGDING INSTRUMENT WAS 1WLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS IAY OF , 20_. INER S 7jiO3' 3p499 q .�; it) z T. M. 99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R_THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN,VA.22959 S: r; 0 A o u PIPE ` n FOUND / '^ NOT32'41"E SRO I70 ad PIPF FOUND ( 20'RIWi; EREBr VACATE(L; j "y345.5d 3 !,O!'i FPOUMD 5���"M r" i' POLEAM lK, OVERHEAD UTIL LINE JB d aI-* '.1' %3�• _- _ PARCEL X oP' WELL 9,05 AC. \ TEL rrD SPRING 1" 100' STREAM BUFFER -(SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC �P� I TRANS :LD SURVEY. \ NE A (SPECIAL FL000 HAZARD AREA) 1 IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 500006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. )EVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. VS fir � 9 O, � FOUNROND T M. 99 - P 65 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST ST� 2T 11 W TM 99- JEAN S DO 4214 D8 2951 92 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n 93 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 94 Kevin McCollum From: John Anderson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:18 AM To: Frank Pohl; Kevin McCollum Cc: Emily Cox Subject: RE: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question I'll be glad to, Frank. Kevin, first, to Frank's question. Is the Applicant requesting a change to the GIS map ( buffers are defined in GIS, and may /will soon be a district overlay). Is there dispute concerning GIS layer? If not, the plat should be revised to match GIS stream buffer layer, image, below. If Applicant requests change to the GIS map, the threshold for rural areas is not that high ( intermittent streams have buffers, perennial stream classification not required). I could try to visit late this or early next week. Since it has been relatively dry, findings of certain characteristics that total a minimum quantitative (scoring) value for intermittent streams is sufficient to confirm GIS layer is accurate. We can do this, but need permission to enter the property. Can you help with these questions, and also, with point of contact? thanks, Kevin best, J. Anderson 95 John E. Anderson, PE I Civil Engineer 11 Department of Community Development I County of Albemarle, Virginia 401 McIntire Road I Charlottesville, VA 22902 434.296.5832 ext. 3069 From: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org>; John Anderson <janderson2@albemarle.org> Cc: Emily Cox <ecox2@albemarle.org> Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. 96 - . V Fy i oPs;; S M L/ �r Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Albemarle Countv fpohIPalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 Thanks, From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.ors> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 97 D C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS 1NE OFF ST RT 712 DATE JULY 30, 2022 Kl0 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, III! FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNED OWNERS, IRON SET R13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN N RR ,,"SITE" NORTH THOMAS GARDEN DAIRY LN bq b 712 6� T M. 99 • P 62 4 R GREEN HILL FARM 't LAND TRUST. D 8. 1868, P 709 140 0.8 140, P 484 PLAT DATE 3,91 AC ESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE IRY PUBLIC OF 'COUNTY OF 'OREGDING INSTRUMENT WAS 1WLEDGED BEFORE ME THIS IAY OF , 20_. INER S 7jiO3' 3p499 q .�; it) z T. M. 99-P62A EXISTING PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R_THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT 3832 THOMAS DAIRY LN. NORTH GARDEN,VA.22959 S: r; 0 A o u PIPE ` n FOUND / '^ NOT32'41"E SRO I70 ad PIPF FOUND ( 20'RIWi; EREBr VACATE(L; j "y345.5d 3 !,O!'i FPOUMD 5���"M r" i' POLEAM lK, OVERHEAD UTIL LINE JB d aI-* '.1' %3�• _- _ PARCEL X oP' WELL 9,05 AC. \ TEL rrD SPRING 1" 100' STREAM BUFFER -(SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC �P� I TRANS :LD SURVEY. \ NE A (SPECIAL FL000 HAZARD AREA) 1 IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 500006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. )EVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. VS fir � 9 O, � FOUNROND T M. 99 - P 65 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST ST� 2T 11 W TM 99- JEAN S DO 4214 D8 2951 9.1 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n 99 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 100 Kevin McCollum From: Frank Pohl Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 11:02 AM To: Kevin McCollum; John Anderson Cc: Emily Cox Subject: FW: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Attachments: SUB202200144 Plat - Submittal (First) 2022-08-30.pdf, SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A.pdf Kevin, If they are requesting a change to the GIS map, we will need to perform a site assessment to confirm where the stream begins. John, is this something you'd like to do? Note that this is not shown as an intermittent or perennial stream on the USGS map, but that ground conditions should dictate. Someone will need to get permission from the owner and coordinate with the surveyor. Frank Frank V. Pohl, PE, CFM County Engineer Thanks, 101 Albemarle Countv foohlOalbemarle.org 434-296-5832 x7914 401 McIntire Road, North Wing, Charlottesville, VA 22902 From: Kevin McCollum <kmccollum@albemarle.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl <fpohl@albemarle.org> Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 102 i C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS ENE OFF ST RT 712 DATE I JULY 30, 2022 IOO 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, E FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNEO OWNERS, IRON SET T M. 99-P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST D.B 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT DATE AM 01 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE LRY PUBLIC ' 'COUNTY OF WE801NG INSTRUMENT WAS RYLEDGED BEFORE WE THIS AY OF , 20—. INER B13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR 'SITE• NORTH TNOMAS �, IRON SET GARDEN DAIRY LN S>J•O5, E JO099 m. q ro T. M. 99-P62A ee :. EXISTING 712 ' PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT3032 NORTH GAF EN,VA. 229D9 ° •C • po 4 � 01 O °FOUND Gi '^ N07°32'41°E S�O 170.8d �3 PIPE FOUND EX 20' R/W •, Y'.'� _ .. .... 140_ HEREBY WICATEO "yAS. 56 ' PIPE FOUND POLE q� OVERHEAD ` n�.H6�;•' UTIL. LINE ad PI'*'2PPARoP'' 9 05 AC L X �O'o�6• o�'� WELL • \ TEL rto 1 SPRING L_100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC 4Pj I TRANS :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAI IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 5*006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. V5 ter ao O, ST7" 3� 2g w FOU RONDN TM 99 - JEAN S D B 4214 TM 99 - P 65 DO 2951 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 103 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n 104 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 105 Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:22 AM To: Andrew Graff Subject: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A Attachments: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A.docx Good Morning Andy, Thanks for delivering the revised plat this morning. I have shared the plat with the County Engineer, Frank Pohl, and am awaiting his final comment. All other comments have been addressed. I'll let you know as soon as he gets back to me. Thank you. Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 106 Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2022 10:15 AM To: Frank Pohl Subject: SUB202200144 stream buffer on a plat question Attachments: SUB202200144 Plat - Submittal (First) 2022-08-30.pdf, SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A.pdf Frank, I had an applicant hand deliver me a revised copy of the attached plat today. I believe all comments have been addressed other than the stream buffer comment. So, the stream buffer on GIS is shown differently than how he shows it on the plat, but the surveyor, Andy Graff, says he went out into the field and marked it himself, and so that is why is looks different than our GIS. He said he located the spring for the stream, and marked it on the plat. Do you have any objections to this or should he show the WPO buffer as it is shown on the GIS? https://gisweb.albemarle.org/gpv 51/Viewer.aspx?state=253271826654 107 i C. _L FARM LAND TRUST PROPERTY 1 4.00 AC. V R. THOMAS ENE OFF ST RT 712 DATE I JULY 30, 2022 IOO 500 E ING DESCRIBED LAND, E FREE CONSENT AND IERSIGNEO OWNERS, IRON SET T M. 99-P. 62 GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST D.B 1668. P 709 D.B. 140, P. 484 PLAT DATE AM 01 AC. RESIDUE 3834 THOMAS DAIRY LN NORTH BAROEN,VA. 22959 DATE LRY PUBLIC ' 'COUNTY OF WE801NG INSTRUMENT WAS RYLEDGED BEFORE WE THIS AY OF , 20—. INER B13 NORFOLK SOUTHERN RR 'SITE• NORTH TNOMAS �, IRON SET GARDEN DAIRY LN S>J•O5, E JO099 m. q ro T. M. 99-P62A ee :. EXISTING 712 ' PARCEL A 4.00 AC. BENJAMIN R.THOMAS o D, B. 818, P 569,572 PLAT3032 NORTH GAF EN,VA. 229D9 ° •C • po 4 � 01 O °FOUND Gi '^ N07°32'41°E S�O 170.8d �3 PIPE FOUND EX 20' R/W •, Y'.'� _ .. .... 140_ HEREBY WICATEO "yAS. 56 ' PIPE FOUND POLE q� OVERHEAD ` n�.H6�;•' UTIL. LINE ad PI'*'2PPARoP'' 9 05 AC L X �O'o�6• o�'� WELL • \ TEL rto 1 SPRING L_100' STREAM BUFFER (SEE NOTE NO 4) ELEC 4Pj I TRANS :LD SURVEY. NE A (SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAI IAP, COMMUNITY PANEL 5*006 0400 D. AND OTHER ENCUMBRANCES NOT SHOWN MAY EXIST HALL BE MANAGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE N ORDINANCE. DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS REVISED PARCEL A HAS FURTHER DIVIDED. THESE PARCELS ZONED RA. V5 ter ao O, ST7" 3� 2g w FOU RONDN TM 99 - JEAN S D B 4214 TM 99 - P 65 DO 2951 SECOND GREEN HILL FARM LAND TRUST 108 100 Kevin McCollum, AICP, CZO Senior Planner I 0 0 tJ O `n 109 Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 110 Kevin McCollum From: Kevin McCollum Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:44 PM To: Andrew Graff Subject: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA - TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A Attachments: SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A.pdf Good Afternoon, Attached are review comments for application SUB202200144 Revised Parcel A BLA - TMP 99-62 and TMP 99-62A. Please make the applicable changes and resubmit the plat online here. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Kevin McCollum, AICP, Czo Senior Planner I Albemarle County Community Development Department Planning Division (434) 296-5832 ext. 3141 401 McIntire Rd, Charlottesville VA 22902 111